1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Class Action is a production of I Heart Radio and 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Sound argument. All right, my little sister, bringers and hands, 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: but we don't have Jack Jasmine. Where is she? Where 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: is she? Jackbreaking stuff? Wait? Wait wait wait missing Jasmine? 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Wait we're missing Jasmine. No, Hi, where are you? He's cold? 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: He's in short tease driving Yeah yeah, yeah, like he 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: was driving right now? Remember the rule relieving it? Okay, 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: she said she's walking out a row. Tell her, Tell 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: her not to her. She said, he said, you have 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: to run. No, don't do that to her. I'm just kidding. 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Oh. There she is. She's in she's 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: me on blue gaster. She's in a full on track suit. 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: She was met in the medical school. Away. Hello everyone, yes, 14 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: all right, here we go road again. Don't wait to 15 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: get back all the ruin again? Everybody good? I love 16 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: is making music. But I should go to karaoke. Well now, 17 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: but I'm so sorry what I'm Jasmine's just mad because 18 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't understand I don't have it, so when it 19 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: comes in, it's just it was my first time. M hm. 20 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: So right now, I have no idea where we are. 21 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: I just woke up from a now, but we're on 22 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: are we Houston and we stopped at of Buckey's classic 23 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: must must do in Texas. Apparently they have the best 24 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: convenience store barbecue sandwiches in the state. But it's it's 25 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: just miserable outside. I mean it is grey, a like 26 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I've never seen Texas be gray before. But we are 27 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: moving in root into Houston. Jasmine brought like seven different 28 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: albums jackets, Dude, it was at least four weeks that 29 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: leather coat completely say for one night you brought that coach, Jasmine, 30 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: because you will be Jack Barrow on us. I'm watching 31 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: the news. Chernobyl just fell to the Russians. So that's fun. 32 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: Chernobyl the side of the nuclear disaster. The Russians just 33 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: took it. Okay, so they're still moving south. This is 34 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: that entrance Chernobyl. Yeah, they took Chernobyl. You know the 35 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: energy in this van. Don't ask me that because I'm 36 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: bling this stuff right now. Lanes left East Wen days ago, 37 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: still in their frosties. The frosty, their frosties, Yeah, what good? 38 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: The little one thing on this big Yeah, Like, why 39 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: would you ever get a frosty when you can just 40 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: get a bluezard. I did I like frost after the 41 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: disappointing loss at the Best of Texas competition. So we 42 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: lost that round. We lost that round two to one. 43 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: You do. The St. Mary's Trial team. It's back together, 44 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: only this time without Mariella, and they're on route to 45 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: the highest stakes tournament of the year, the regional bracket 46 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: of the National Trial Competition. Eleven schools start out on Friday, 47 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: but only two will survive and advance to Nationals on Sunday. 48 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: By that time, for everyone else, the season will be over. 49 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: And while this isn't the first rodeo for St. Mary's, 50 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: it is the first time they'll be competing live this season. 51 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Harris County Civil Court House. Oh you 52 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: should know about the trip to the room is where 53 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: they're always going to be. How all coffee in the 54 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: northern room. It's gonna be lunch as well. The law 55 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: students are all dressed up for a swanky happy hour 56 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: that's on the docket for tonight. The only table available 57 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: to St. Mary's, though, smack dab in the center of 58 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: the room where all of the other teams can check 59 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: them out. Okay, Judge Christine Weans, the competition host, leaves 60 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: the students to fend for themselves. She pulls all of 61 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: the coaches into a conference room to sort out the 62 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: rules and to draw off the matchups. So we do 63 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: a four round prelim just because I hate three round prelimbs. 64 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm very bitter. I did I got well. I got 65 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: on the losing end of a three round free limb 66 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: in law school like twenty five years ago, and I 67 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: still hold a grudge about it. So that back in 68 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: the main room, it's awkward. The St. Mary's team tries 69 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: to act cool. It's unique, just to help you like 70 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: and then sate your words before you speak. She does red, 71 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: leather yellow. There's a lot of side eye glances, silent judgments, 72 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: and forced small talk, except from cold. If you hacked 73 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: into a nuclear reactor, you could scram the reactor, which 74 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: shuts down the plant, cutting off power. That's very good 75 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: for the civilians. Like that are easy when everything's going good, 76 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: and then it goes bad. But these are competitors and 77 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: they are on high alert for any smack talk from 78 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: the other schools, especially from their arch nemesis, Baylor University. 79 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: My name is Christopher Grant. I am the young Padawan 80 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: to the Jedi Master, Chris Ruise, Christopher Ruise. This is 81 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: my fourth tournament on Baffa Baylor. I competed an undergrad, 82 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: so I've been reprobailor for seven years now. It's a 83 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: great experience. UM really enjoy it and looking forward to 84 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: the tournament. An hour goes by and the coaches, well, 85 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: they're oblivious to what their suffering students are going through. 86 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: You can't do that, you can't play one six, And 87 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: everyone that one I know verses that, Yes, I feel 88 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: like it'sn consensus is that we are a little bit 89 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: just like a tiny it's starving star. How long how 90 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: you guys left for the coaches conference? And we thought 91 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: like that was the happy hour, so we were like, 92 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: bring on the tapas and no, no tapas. Okay, that's 93 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: the opening around. I'll put on this on the website. 94 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: It's late, it's freezing and it's raining. The top us 95 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 1: and the fashionable cocktails at the happy hour are going 96 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: to waste this whole let's get together and bond with 97 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: your fellow law student thing. Well, it's a total bust. 98 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean the other option is that you'll just go 99 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: back to the hotel now and get literally, I prefer that. 100 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: I just yeah, I mean we can, we can, I 101 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: mean we could do that. I gotta go with happy 102 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: Arab and y'all you can go back. There was teams 103 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: that didn't even show up to the this is episode 104 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: ten of Class Action. Any given Sunday, the excitement level 105 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: for them is just huge and it just makes all 106 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: of our hearts grow and it's why we do this. 107 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: It's extremely fast paced once you're in the competition. Breach 108 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: are Vino and Ashley Emil oversee the national competition for 109 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: the Texas Young Lawyers Association. There's not a lot of 110 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: time to think once you're in it. You just have 111 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: to do what you know that you need to do 112 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: and move forward. I think the competition setting is important 113 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: for them to understand how to be good trial lawyers 114 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: when the stakes are high, when there's the pressure on, 115 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: when there's the stress to it. As well. This morning, 116 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: I will go befoward and was dressing. I couldn't I 117 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: couldn't go back to bed, and I was like, oh 118 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm gonna pass out, like I'm not sleeping 119 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: enough and I have to go two rounds, Like what 120 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: if that happens? And then Andy woke up finally, and 121 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm like Andy just like no, no, we're switching. And 122 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, So my main job is just 123 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: to make sure all those cats are heard it at 124 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: the beginning, make sure they're on coach. Jason Goss comes 125 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: across like a good old boy, but just below the surface, 126 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: he's hell bent on a trophy. Jason was the star 127 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: attorney on the last Saint Mary's team to make it 128 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: to Nationals way back in two thousand. How a killer. 129 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: How need road every time because if you don't, which 130 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: would be the last one problem did you ever do? 131 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: When you're up everything rightes on this weekend, you gotta 132 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: kill him. South Texas is very good. I mean they're 133 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: just they're always very good. Same Mary's always goes against 134 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: South Texas and Taylor always every year since I've been here, 135 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: every year, and it's always hard and that's good and 136 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: if you beat him, you feel really good. Going both ways, 137 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: some of the facts start to blur a little bit together, 138 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: especially since some of the initial stuff and openings and 139 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: crosses and directs kind of are similar questions, So it 140 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: would throw me off. So I saw that I had 141 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: two ties that are kind of similar in design. So 142 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: in side of gold is defense. I've always been told 143 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: red is a prosecution color, So I think blue is 144 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: a proper because we're good guys. Well, red red as 145 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: prosecution for me. So that's how I keep it straight, 146 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: all right. Uh? Calling to order Cause number one eight 147 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: three three three the State of lone Star versus Timmy Williams. Uh, 148 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: we're on the record. Does the state have any emotions? Yes, 149 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: your honor. By way of background, the defendant in today's case, 150 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: Timmy Williams, is being charged with possession of the controlled 151 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: substance with the intent to deliver. Now, the defendant was 152 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: found in apartment number one along with cocaine and other 153 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: associated drug paraphernalia. Now the apartment in question is listed 154 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: under Tommy Williams, who's the defendant's brother. Yes, your honor, 155 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: we are here today on a possession of a controlled 156 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: substance with intent to deliver. That controlled substance being cocaine. 157 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: A key issue in today's case is who had actual care, 158 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: custody and control. It will be our defense that Tommy 159 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Williams was the one who had actual care, custody and control. 160 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: That's an officer Perez took the drugs from upstairs, walked 161 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: them downstairs to a table where there was a scale. 162 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: So he took the cocaine from upstairs, brought it downstairs, 163 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: placed it on this scale, and then took the photograph. 164 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: Um it would be misleading the jury as it was 165 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: manipulated in stage for this photograph to be taken. After 166 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: months on Zoo, Jasmine finally has the opportunit unity to 167 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: take advantage of the dynamics of a real courtroom. I 168 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: may I approach the witness. Cole who's normally pretty shy, 169 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: can finally lead those I want to talk about that scale. 170 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: Do you see that skill there? Yes, you didn't check 171 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: that scale for fingerprints? Did you know you didn't check 172 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: that scale for cocaine? And of course Jasmine can have 173 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: her hair just right, her nails flawless, as she likes 174 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: to say. Everyone is making eye contact with the witness, 175 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: the judge, and the other team. It's a revelation. It 176 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: was the perfect example of delivery because it was manipulated 177 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: in many ways. The defense case, it's juicier. They can 178 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: argue that investigators rushed to judgment, that they staged the evidence. 179 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: They didn't even read Timmy Williams is Miranda Lets. You 180 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: didn't talk to anybody that day? Did you know? I 181 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: did not? You didn't talk to anyone there any other time, 182 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: did you. No prosecution is supposed to keep us safe. 183 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: Where it's these supposed to keep the government in check. 184 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: You have to keep the bad cops in check, and 185 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: you have to hammer them hard. You didn't talk to 186 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: the landlord of that apartment comp You never tried to 187 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: examine a lease agreements. You never tried to verify who 188 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: actually owned apartment one two three, did you? So there's 189 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: this weird dynamic. You know, it sounds bad making an 190 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: example because you don't want to go too far, but 191 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: you also don't want to you know, convicts in the 192 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: court of public opinion the copy did nothing wrong, but 193 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: you might have to imply that they did something wrong 194 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: in order to serve your client. So you can either 195 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: choose to do what is right or what is easy, 196 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: and the state has chosen to do what is easy. 197 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: Members the jury, we're asking you to do what is 198 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: right when you see that verdict form to find Mr 199 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: Williams not guilty. Thank you cancers. At this point we're 200 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: going to submit the matter to the jury. Uh and 201 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: so we are in recess until that point off the record, 202 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: all right, So I mean I feel good about them. 203 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, we'll just kind of see. It's gonna be 204 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: interesting because if they do well in these first two rounds, 205 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: are gonna be going against the best and the third 206 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: and fourth and everybody's gonna knocking each other down. So 207 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: that's that's a good thing. It's a surprisingly good first 208 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: day for the St. Mary's team. They win this round 209 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: as well as the next, with Andy wearing her prosecutor's hat, 210 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: ripping apart the key witness for the defense. Yes, Mr Williams, 211 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: according to you, the scales and the scale and this 212 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: photo isn't yours. It is not according to you, the 213 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: straws aren't yours. According to you, the little baggies aren't yours. 214 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: And according to you, the coke Hayne isn't yours. And 215 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: according to you, you're Tommy Williams. Right. Not according to me, 216 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: on Timmy Williams. But that's not what you told the 217 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: police on the day that you were arrested. That's accurate 218 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: for the questions at this time. Oh okay, I'm sorry. 219 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting to hear from this round in this 220 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: round to find out who the presiding judges. But I 221 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: know Bill Ford's praying dudge guy saw him on the 222 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: bench in that one. Okay, It's the second day of 223 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: the regional tournament and head coach A. J. Blito de 224 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: Luna is volunteering to help judge Weems with the scoring system. 225 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: It's a complex job and something he's done throughout his 226 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: career in the trial advocacy world. AJ maintains his neutrality, 227 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: but he can't help but be excited at how well 228 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: his team is too. Are our St. Mary's two team 229 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: of Team one sixty three. They're the ones that just 230 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: swept that last round. They're facing the Baylor team, um, 231 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: which is happens to be in the first place. We 232 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: have a tough match up, but this is where this 233 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: is where we're supposed to be. You want to be 234 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: in the arena with the big boys, right with the 235 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: big teams. That's that's where you want to be. You 236 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: want to be playing against the best players. And the 237 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: fact that they you know, they came out of the basement, 238 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: so there's a lot more about their character. I really 239 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: really just hope that we like break this fake curse. 240 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: That everyone is talking, you know, like we just haven't 241 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: we haven't, we haven't advanced in so long, Like I 242 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: really just want to be the team that does it. 243 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: It's time. We've waited long enough and we know that 244 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: we got it, So we just got to do it 245 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: for Andy, Jasmine and Cole. Their entire season is on 246 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: the line. Ye was a council Thanks a gentleman the jury, 247 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Please the court. Two wrongs don't make a right. Three 248 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: lies don't make a truth. And this trial, Mike Ho 249 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: counsel is gonna come before you, Miss Andy Viscotta. She's 250 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: gonna go through all of the evidence that you saw 251 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: today and you're gonna see the wrongs of the defendant 252 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: and the lies of the defendant don't make it true. 253 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: She's gonna show you how we have met our burden 254 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: of proof, and she will ask you to find the defendant, 255 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Timmy Williams guilty. Baylor is not fooling around. They bring 256 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: in their a team, may please the court. My name 257 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: is Christopher Crant and I'm proud to be here representing 258 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: Timmy Williams. Just a moment ago, the state came before 259 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: you and they spent most of their time talking about 260 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: the fact that Timmy Williams. Well, they're gonna tell you 261 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again that he's 262 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: a liar. He's a liar. You shouldn't trust him checking 263 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: your honor. Apologize. But this is getting into signific me 264 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: argument in the territory of hope existence in general, I try. 265 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: I am a fairly quiet person, keep to myself, and 266 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't confront people here. To me, it makes sense 267 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: for me to be a little more snippy and a 268 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: little more aggressive. You give me an assignment, I do it. 269 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because it's Baylor, or maybe it's the pressure 270 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: or the threat of elimination, but it's obvious these lawyers 271 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: really don't like each other. The mascot for Baylor is 272 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: the bear for St. Mary's. It's the rattlesnake. Mr Williams. 273 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: How many times would you say that you lied to 274 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: law enforcement on the day that you were arrested. Mr Williams, 275 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: you told that the law enforcement that day that you 276 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: were talking about doing that. You're also throwing your brother 277 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: under the bus. So the truth is, throughout the entire 278 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: course of your investigation, you found no evidence Timmy Williams 279 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: ever received any payment in exchange for drugs. I found 280 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: no money. Correct, you found no evidence Timmy Williams communicated 281 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: with anyone whatsoever to buy or sell two pieces of 282 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: key evidence with your bare hands. So, Officer pres you 283 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: staged this photograph. I disagree with that. In stage and 284 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: gentlemen of the jury, we learned today that when Timmy 285 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: Williams is back is against the wall, what he does 286 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: his lie. Today, you have the power to deliver a 287 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: verdict based on the truth. I asked that you find 288 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: the defendant guilty today. May it please the court? It 289 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: is a scary society for us to live in, to 290 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: think that you can visit somebody's house and because that 291 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: somebody else has something incriminating upstairs, you could be found guilty. 292 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: He had nothing to hide, That's what they told you. 293 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: If you had nothing to hide, why lie? If you 294 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: had nothing to hide, why would you ask how do 295 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: I get out of these charges? Why not say? Wait? WHOA, 296 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: this has gone too far. I'm not Tommy, I'm Timmy. 297 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: Those aren't my drugs objection. I'm sorry to interrupt. I 298 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: asked that to be stricken, let's move if he had 299 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: nothing to hide. While Andy, your style is great, I knew. 300 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: I knew from your face you didn't like my original 301 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: ruling on on the conversation. No, I mean, it's fine, 302 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and it's okay to be disappointed, right, it's fine. But 303 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: I like the way you came back, and you came 304 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: back in a very respectful way, and you had new evidence. 305 00:20:51,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: Uh Andy, gosh, you're such a good advocate. Cole. Also, man, y'all, 306 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: both of you guys are the team super professionals. Christopher, 307 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: you are an excellent storyteller. Danielle really good. You're a 308 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: really good listener. But maybe don't get too aggressive right 309 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: off the back. God, alright, so the part that you 310 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: care about, you know, the teams that are advancing in 311 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: the semifinals for Regent ten, then the three thirty third 312 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: on prosecution will be Team three fifty Baylor two. Okay, 313 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: first team one sixty three, say Eric. And then the 314 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: last team in the semifinal round will be in the 315 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: team three forty nine Baylor one. Persis Team one six 316 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: Saint Mary. Y'all broke, I'm sure y'all have work to 317 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: do for the rest of you. Didn't break. We thank 318 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: you so much for coming there. Help because you need 319 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: crete she's a much No, I'm happy, proud of all. 320 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: I've told you all, y'all are gonna be in your 321 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: need you guys, we are like, we don't take Elsie 322 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: give us. Finally we broke. We made it to the 323 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: next round where going to the semifinals, and then it's unreal. 324 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: It's very sad, it's so happy. We can't remember was 325 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: the last time St. Mary's advanced two teams in this 326 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: competition to the next round and a live competition. But 327 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: the last time that we had two teams advance, especially 328 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: the gauntlet that we went through, it's pretty amazing. So 329 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: hopefully we're not done today when they're out of the van, 330 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: they weren't going to lose and they did exactly what 331 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: they needed to do against superb teams. So I'm I'm 332 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: ecstatic right now. But it's not good enough business Spensis 333 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: two thousand eight. Since we made it to the nationals, 334 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: we need them, we need them to do it. So 335 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: I am patiously optimistic Colors. So here's the here's the 336 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: thing tomorrow. When you go in now, it's for real. 337 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: You lay it all out there because the one thing 338 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to go back and set I put 339 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: it down more and at I was tired, which I'm 340 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: worried about that I'm waking up tomorrow and saying, oh 341 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: my god, we're facing Baylor. Faylor is the best tile 342 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: at program in the coat. They really are facing that. 343 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: There's a big he can't get to the dashing A 344 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: Championship without getting there there, so it's gonna be hard. 345 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hard day. They can do their 346 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: best and it's still not like so we're going back 347 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: to the hotel. The team piles into the van and 348 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: heads back to the hotel and he calls a team 349 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: meeting in her room. Jasmine's already in her pj's and 350 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: fuzzy slippers. Wait can I I say the first thing? 351 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, leave the meeting cup. What can we 352 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: do to better the rally had this morning? Because it 353 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: was a good round, but we need to be great Jasmine, Yeah, 354 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: like today I was better than that. You were great 355 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: and you're just like you're on it. Next level of 356 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: that is like, yeah, Baylor's tomorrow. I don't think like 357 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: we should get really psyched out about it because like 358 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: I'm not. We did it today and like we did 359 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: it today, call you eat pre trial. If you don't 360 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: crying help, sorry, you have no You have to assert 361 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: your you're the anchor. You have to assert your dominance 362 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: from the beginning. It's your time, it's your clock, it's 363 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: your room, it's your trial to your case like tomorrow 364 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: it's Baylor, so like, read the room, read the witness, 365 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: read the judge, and apply your cross accordingly. But even 366 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: if it has to be a stop cross, like we're 367 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: actually your job is done by noon, Jasmine. Think about 368 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: that afternoon You're like, I just need to get it 369 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: to you, and I'm good once we get But most 370 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: likely they're gonna start to brass. There's no way they 371 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: gave St. Mary's two defenses and the semifinal around and 372 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: they're not gonna like it's weird. It's maybe years of 373 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: my issues. I don't feel like Jesus, you screamed to 374 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: everybody loved me, I scream don't. I don't want you 375 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: to love me people. That's what it is. There's some 376 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: deepness there, all right, I appreciate it. What do you think? Cool? 377 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: How are you feeling? Yeah? Cool? You actually have done 378 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: the most work ever, Like you've been astrative gangster g 379 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: every round it's gonna do it again to wall Yeah, 380 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: he said, you are the glue to this team. You 381 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: are the glue to this team without you. Jasmine's so 382 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about what's good at dinner. Yeah, bad, it's bad, 383 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Like you make us better. Dad was in the Marines 384 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: a few years before I was born. My mom's father, 385 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: he was in the Air Force. Military is just something 386 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: I sort of grew up interested in. People watch whatever 387 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: TV shows, reality shows or whatever. I'd be watching some 388 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: military very documentary or some something like that just because 389 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: that's what I found interesting. So my dad, he's all 390 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: for Joint Military, very supportive of it. My biological father 391 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: is the same way. He's put me in contact with 392 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: people that he knows that were former JAG to talk 393 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: to them and learn more about the program. My mom 394 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: isn't as thrilled about it, that motherly protection kind of thing. Um. 395 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: She thought the JAG was a civilian thing where they 396 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: just work for the military. She didn't realize it was 397 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: actual military. So if I did JAG, it would be 398 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: basic training, should be officer kind of get school after 399 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: that and then JAG training. A lot of attorneys, um, 400 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: a lot of law students at least they need to 401 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: be in charge, which is an inherently bad thing. But 402 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: if you don't take orders from other people, well then 403 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: military avacene isn't gonna be good for you. Some people 404 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: can be commanded, some people can't. Um. Some people can 405 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: step into leadership shoes. Some people can't. It's just the 406 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: way it is. I think I can um, and hopefully 407 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: the military agrees. Morning. Andy and I had some good 408 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: conversations this morning, just about the rounds and not like 409 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: us as people. I guess too, so I feel like 410 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: we got for any de bunds of times, just like 411 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: you're not doing myself. You know. Andy's advice is like, 412 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: don't try anything somebody or not. Basically, I'm not gonna 413 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: get intimidated by case law. I'm not gonna get intimidated 414 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: man in hell. Yeah today I am or don't accept 415 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: any of presses that they give. Do tell me your 416 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: little three things. The law tries to codify equity. You're 417 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: herd to argument strong. It should not be over like 418 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: come by anything because Corea never ever gen You told 419 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: me a record of me again please time I have. 420 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm not just get up, as coaches told me. The 421 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: thing about me, is I have like a I think 422 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: he said sweet disposition, Like I'm yeah, I go up 423 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: there and I'm like sweet and everything or not sweet, 424 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: but like I don't seem all aggressive, but then when 425 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: it comes down to it, I can do it. The 426 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: thing about that I love about the law is that 427 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: the purpose is to obviously keep the community safe, but 428 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: also to uphold justice and fairness. But I personally, I 429 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: do know attorneys who are like that. They don't care 430 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: about their clients, not one bit at all. I want 431 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: to be a difference, Like if somebody were to hire 432 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: me instead of this other attorney, that could like actually, 433 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, affect their case. I don't know what my 434 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: purpose is, like we're all finding it out every day, 435 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: but I think one of my purposes has got to 436 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: be to make the world a better place. Has got 437 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: to be to change lives, because one attorney could really 438 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: change a life. Okay, I just don't think you I 439 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't remind you that we beat the girl invest in Texas. 440 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: I know, because the two girls does. Um yeah, so 441 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: you'll know where to stand, you know where to do? 442 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: You know all this stuff. This is fun. I mean, 443 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's stressful, but it's fun. I mean, 444 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: then you know, all we can prepare you for us 445 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: to break because once you're in the break grounds, you're 446 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: always going to get to school. That's as good as 447 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: you are. It doesn't matter who the advocates are. You 448 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: all understand the program. You watched it all yesterday, so 449 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: you all went through it yesterday. So it's only about 450 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: what your little thing that are happening, and who your 451 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: judges are, and so it's just there's so many variables 452 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: that right now we're just all hanging on for the ride, 453 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: and you gotta win to break the The whole idea 454 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: is is that the person who has calmist, the team, 455 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: who is most professional and the most calm, is going 456 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: to be the one who wins. The one who confidently 457 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: goes through and does what they're doing, it's gonna be 458 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: the one that wins. You got it, I got it. Yeah, 459 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: you're right, you you young. It's just style. Whatever feels 460 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: right in that moment, Like we could tell you like yeah, 461 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 1: maybe just give it to the helps me first. It's 462 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: like it's really gonna like speak for a strike for 463 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: a strike car like numerosy do not between that gum 464 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm about getting it all out. Oh my gosh, are 465 00:31:49,400 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: h oh, Good morning everybody. So this is gonna be 466 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: a good case. This is going to be a good 467 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: opportunity for all of you advocates. I hear great things 468 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: about you. So my bailiff got fired because of bad attitude. 469 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: So do we have somebody to keep time for us? Andy, 470 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: who's kind of losing it at this point because she's 471 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: dying to compete volunteers. I don't have to be time 472 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: for us? Is that all right? So I have a 473 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: new beata find it the last and only lasted three days. 474 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: Apparently I'm a tyrant. Andy takes a seat in the 475 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: jury box. It's the perfect spot to keep an eye 476 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: on her teammates. Eventually, you did call the narcotics unit. 477 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: I did because you had a dream that maybe one 478 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: day I could move from being a patrol officer to 479 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: the narcotics unit. Yes, Jasmine has kind of come into herself, 480 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: and I think at the beginning she was very quiet 481 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: and not sure of herself, and she has improved like 482 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: leaps about. She's way better right now than she has 483 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: ever better to person. Timmy lied because he was a 484 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: victim of the system. But the state has based their 485 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: entire case on these lies. If the detective on scene 486 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: doesn't do their job, who else is supposed to. That's 487 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: on the detective, that's on the state to investigate properly. 488 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: That is not the country that we live in today. 489 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: All four of you, just your movements were good. You 490 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: anchored you, you were repetition, you used each other's themes 491 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: against each other. All of that was good. Um, so again, 492 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: congratulations on getting this far. It was very tough to judge. 493 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, there's gotta be a winner and I gotta 494 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: be a loser. And I can already tell you that 495 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: there's a difference as to very small percentage as to 496 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: who won and who lost. All four of you one 497 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: so jee fast. I was trying to smile, but I 498 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: can't be making faces at you with them watching him. 499 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: And I was just like it, no, I just can't be. 500 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: I can't be like, I can't. I couldn't feel it. 501 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: You need to face And I was like no, I 502 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: was trying to like help my weight to cry, like 503 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying I was. I was like, I was like, 504 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: I can't react to this, how do you feel? So 505 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I stumbled in emotions and like its 506 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: just you did sure. I have no idea vomit, do 507 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: you have any idea? I'm gonna barth. I don't know. 508 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: I thought I thought Presiding was with you the whole time, 509 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: even though he was like overrule and stuff, like he 510 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: was like he got a little gleam in his eyes, 511 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: especially like when Cole was got people look, judges look cool, 512 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: especially presiding, um, just because he's he's just he has 513 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: that thing you want. You believe him, You believe him. 514 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if the judges liked it or not. 515 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: You know, you can't really tell by just comments alone. Right, 516 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes the judge will crap on your team and just 517 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: criticize you. And then you found out that they had 518 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: you winning by thirty points, So you don't You don't 519 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: know until we get the ballots back. Like you killed 520 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: them with kindness exactly like we talked about and like 521 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: that's really powerful. And for them, yeah, they were, they 522 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: were trying to bully us. But the sun came out. 523 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm working with because I did manifest 524 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: that for today. I didn't look at the weather forecast. Um, 525 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 1: So I mean there's a chance there's there's a chance. 526 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: I yeah, And if there's a chance, and we knocked 527 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: out Baylor, we're gonna have a food. We did the 528 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: best you think, Yes, how did you feel? I feel like, well, 529 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna right again. I feel like maybe I disappointed everybody, know, 530 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: just because emotionally I caught tongue title and know you 531 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: did it. You were called. They were like, and you 532 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: were like your honor, like you were you were good. 533 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: It seemed like, no, you don't seem shaky. You were calm, 534 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: because the whole entire time you were like and you smiled, 535 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: you went up there, You're like, okay, let's talk about it. 536 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: I was like, we're killing them with logic today. Okay, okay, 537 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: And that was great, Okay, okay, good, We're good right there. 538 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: You're like, you know, my heart, my heart is in 539 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: my whause, my stomach is in my heart. I don't 540 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, all right, just come up. We're here, 541 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: all right, um, all right, everybody, some very very well 542 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: thought battles. We are super proud of every water. Be 543 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: all please. It's always hard because every time you advanced, 544 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: somebody's got to go home. And in this instance, obviously 545 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: four teams have to go home and for moving on 546 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: to the finals. These are the teams that are moving 547 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: on into the finals in their two final rounds. In 548 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: the two ninety five on prosecution, it will be Team 549 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: three forty nine Baylor versus Team three forty six South 550 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: Texas College of Law Onto. In the three thirty third Courtroom, 551 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: Team one seventy six Texas will go prosecution against Team 552 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: one sixty three St. Mary's congratulations to all of you. 553 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: For those of you who do not advance, y'all want 554 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: a six pack of beer? Seriously, we got tons. He's 555 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: already like, I already got one. I ain't competing today. 556 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: So they said Texas, What should they say Texas too? 557 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I just heard Texas. I blacked out 558 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: after they said you weren't prosecution? I did too. It 559 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: sounds like we have to be cold. Did they say 560 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: Texas to or Texas one? It's probably the Texas were 561 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: the guy one best prosecutor, probably because he was Texas. 562 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: He was Houth Texas. I was Texas. Is it a 563 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: coin toss on what side we go most defense? It 564 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: has to do with the meetings, the pairings, and where 565 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: we It's an automatic flip said, it had nothing to 566 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: do with us. It had to do with that. You 567 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: had to do with where they work. So we are going. 568 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: I think it's ut. I'm not sure how the bracket 569 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: ends up works, but that's what we're doing now. I've 570 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: going in exsecution, were on defense, and UT School of 571 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: Law is like one of the best in the country. Overall. 572 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't care that i'd be Baylor. I need to 573 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: beat these guys. I know, I was wondering about y'all. 574 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, you must be like, are 575 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: you chomping at the bits? I like, I'm just like, 576 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: I was so happy that we were advancing that I 577 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: didn't care, you know, because it ansing is advancing. But yeah, 578 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's hard. You're like fighting the feeling 579 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: of like I'm not crying, like that's the super Bowl 580 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: and I got benched and it wasn't even my choice, 581 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: and it wasn't my coach and it wasn't my teammates. 582 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: That's just how the cookie crumbled. Um. I mean, like, 583 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm proud of us no matter what, but 584 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. But it's hard. It's hard, all right. 585 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: Three o eight in session, the honor Borial Open deciding 586 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: a good afternoon, your honor. My name is Augustus Talkington, 587 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: along with my coke council Nicholas Lowry Uh. It is 588 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: our privileged to represent the state of a Lone start today. 589 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, your honor. My name is Jasmine Old Gene. 590 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: That is O. L G U I N and I 591 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: on with my co counseling the afternoon, y honor of 592 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: My name is Cole C L E D A V 593 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: I L A. We represent the defendant, Mr Timney Williams. 594 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: It's Sunday. All of the other regional tournaments in the 595 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 1: country have been decided. All eyes are on Texas. Both 596 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: teams are exhausted, none more than Cole, who has argued 597 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: this case five times already. The courtroom is packed, spectators, 598 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: alumni and parents all are leading in. Only one of 599 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: the teams in this courtroom will get an automatic bid 600 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: to the national championship. To that members of the jury today, 601 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 1: the evidence will show that the defendant owned illegal drugs. 602 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: More than this, he intended to deliver those illegal drugs 603 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: into this very community. While opposing counsels making their opening statements, 604 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: while I am making mine during all the way, this 605 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: is all of the evidence during closing arguments and even 606 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: while you were deliberating. Timmy Williams is presumed to be innocent. 607 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be easy to convict somebody, because 608 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: we do not want the police and the government to 609 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: simply take the easy way out and grab the first 610 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: person they saw that day. Question that the defense is 611 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: going to ask you is who lived in that apartment? Now, 612 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 1: we as this state will show that the defendant lived 613 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: in that apartment. Now the defense is gonna come up 614 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: here and they're gonna tell you a story about how 615 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: the defendant's brother and his wife and kids lived in 616 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: that apartment. But ask yourself, does this story makes sense? 617 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: Now you see, you're gonna hear from enter Perez that 618 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: they took those two bags of cocaine from that night stand, 619 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: walked them downstairs, found some scales, placed them on the scales, 620 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: lined up the shot, and took photographs. One of your 621 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: rules as a patrol officer is to give out traffic tickets. 622 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: You don't investigate scenes that involved narcotics. You're not trained 623 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: to handle narcotics. You became excited when you saw that cocaine. Yeah, absolutely, 624 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm doing my job. This is what I 625 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: signed up for. You lie to the police to get 626 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: out of trouble. There, big jection, your honor. This has 627 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: been asked and answered. I'll ask the question again. You 628 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: lied to the police to get into trouble using your 629 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: brother's license. That is correct. My objection. You're saying for 630 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: the statements of the officers station asking answer sustainable objection, 631 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: ask and answered. You know, and they're doing it like 632 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: they're coming out and executing. And that's all I can ask, 633 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, just don't don't sit down and sweat and 634 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, pass out. Have you ever loved your team 635 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: so much that you can't even watch them in the 636 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: biggest game of the season, but you keep checking the 637 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: score anyway? Well, that's Jason Goff. He's pacing up and 638 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: down the hallway. He quietly slips into the back of 639 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: the courtroom, gets anxious, comes back out, sits down, stands up, 640 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: starts pacing again. That such astmas Cross. I thought it 641 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: was great should really good jobs sayed really cool? Um, 642 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: which is important. Um. If Cole held his own an opening, 643 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: then you know the closing. You know, if it's close, 644 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: the closing will decide. It may please the court Council, 645 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: Members of the jury. Timmy Williams was found with two 646 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: and a half grands of cocaine and all of his 647 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: supplies for delivering that cocaine right into this community, and 648 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: instead of accepting the fact that he was caught, he lied. 649 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: And as I walked through each of these elements, I 650 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: will discuss what those words mean, but just remember that 651 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: it simply breaks down into presence of the cocaine, possession 652 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: of the cocaine, and intend to deliver the cocaine. Objection, 653 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: your honor, This is a misstatement of the law. It's 654 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: not presence that was established this element. The element is 655 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: just possession, which is actual care, custody, and control, not 656 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: just presence. As posting counsel has stated two times already. 657 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: As just rephrase, Council to keep going, I find maybe 658 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: you heard. Okay. You can either do what is right 659 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: what is easy. The state did what was easy. The 660 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: members of the jury today, we're asking you to do 661 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: what is right. This failure to investigate who actually live there, 662 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: this manipulation of the evidence that's not beyond a reasonable doubt, 663 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: the state has not met their burden today. We're asking 664 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: you to you what is right. And when you see 665 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: this verdict form, we asked that you find Timmy Williams 666 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: not guilty. Anything further from either side, No, your honor, 667 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: all right, jury charge has been submitted to the jury. 668 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: Court is in recess while they deliberate. Sure, if it 669 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: is my last rounds, then it's my last round. It's not. 670 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: It's not either way. I have to do the best 671 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: I can write, finish out on a high note or 672 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: a strong note, or you know, do do nothing and 673 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: then guarantee to be finished. But I know that my 674 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: future is going to be doing this for real. So 675 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: it's and a mock trial, but it's going to be 676 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: the start of real trial. It was good, It was 677 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: It was a fun round. I learned for my mistakes 678 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: yesterday and I really did like go in here thinking 679 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: this is the last round I could ever do for 680 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: mock trial, Like there's right here and I knew that. 681 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I have to give it my all. 682 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Absolutely, congratulations. You guys are ratest experience. You 683 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: guys are stuff amazing, amazing, great performance out of the side. 684 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: You're better than nine percent of the lawyers that appear 685 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: that I am. I am very encouraged about the future. 686 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: The good guardians of the Seventh Amendment because it's under attack, 687 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: so be very good guardians of that. Preserve that right 688 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: to the jury in this country because people are trying 689 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: to erode. We're leaving your hands protected. We're leaving it 690 00:46:49,480 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: in your hands. Yeah, te Yeah, they say, Mary's Texas. Yes, 691 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: yourself called, yes, failer, Yes, wonderful, delightful. Congratulations you guys 692 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: you made to the very end. And I can't tell 693 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: you how thrilled I am that we are done, but 694 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: NEEDS say I am tremendously proud of all of you. 695 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: The rounds you did, the work you did. I know 696 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: you guys have worked so freaking hard to get to 697 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: this moment where two of y'all will be going to 698 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: see it for it worth. In April, in the round 699 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: of three forty nine Baylor versus three forty six South 700 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: Texas College of Law, there's going to be three six 701 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: South Texas talk again. Uh. In the round of one 702 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: seventy six versus one sixty three, the winner was six 703 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: eraduate absolutely great. We can congratulating, go up and done 704 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: as well. Resolutions represent us. I mean, they were good, 705 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: they were something they deserve to be there. They deserve 706 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: to be in the final, they deserve to represent us 707 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: in national So you would have too. Y'all are gladiators, 708 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: and y'all got in there, I mean killed it. And 709 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I mean, they just 710 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: had a team that didn't make mistakes. Really, you know 711 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: they did, they were just you know, yeah, I knew 712 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: we were working on I know, I know what happened, 713 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: But I think you're an idiot if you don't know 714 00:48:54,200 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: what happened. Oh, no, fantastic, right, And we always said 715 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: that the road of the championship goes through Veylor, and 716 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: we did that and it was a real emotional high. 717 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: And we didn't help them get ready for that next one. 718 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 1: We didn't separate the two because you saw some mistakes 719 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: immediately that you hadn't seen all weekend except for the 720 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: first round. They were still good, they were still competitive, 721 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: and it's only a couple of point difference between the ballots. 722 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: But I think the emotional high of one making the 723 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: break and then two, you know, beating the number two 724 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: team in the country and a team that has dominated 725 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: this region for twelve years, it wasn't It was a 726 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: real emotional high, and I really thought that we were 727 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, that's you know, don't count your chickens, right, um. 728 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: And then I was watching it on the simulcas and 729 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: I realized that there's we just can't. God, I wanted 730 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: to win. I wanted to win for them. It's hard, 731 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: and it's my reaction has nothing to do with my teammates. 732 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: It's just really hard. It's just like how they cookie crumbled. 733 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: You know. I don't understand how we lost to them. 734 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: I need to talk to like coach, like what happened? 735 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: What went wrong? I think that was probably my most 736 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: rout of this tournament. I don't know, kept it up 737 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,439 Speaker 1: for all these rounds and then slipt. Yeah, that's gonna 738 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 1: I'll be something that haunts at me for a while. 739 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 1: You're a better swing than I could ever be learned 740 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: at all from you. I'm glad to have made it 741 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: back on the team. It's such a good captain. No 742 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: one else could do it like you. I never forget that. 743 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: I'll always be grateful. Always stop. I'm already crying. Cool, Yeah, 744 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,479 Speaker 1: but some things need to be said. Thanks. Of course, 745 00:51:39,560 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: that's what friends are for. I am in your abilities. 746 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: Could always be sad right now? Are you treeting us? 747 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: Of course? I mean I I think that's cruel to 748 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: the humane enough. You know what in fetus when we left, 749 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 1: do we have a head count as everyone in the bay, 750 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: we got six advocates, Kristen, seat belts please head all right? Okay, 751 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: you took down the bear, you took down the king. 752 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: That's awesome, that is completely awesome. Um, and I mean god, 753 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 1: you cannot have been closer, just could not have been closer. Um, 754 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: I think, um, I think you guys should hold your 755 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: Head's really odd. A j drives the team. Hope it's 756 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: quiet in the van this time. There isn't the chatting, 757 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: the phone calls, the joking around for the three ls. 758 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: The mock trill season is ending. They'll move on to 759 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: finish classes, take the bar exam, get jobs. They've just 760 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 1: gone through an amazing weekend with the highest levels of achievement, 761 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: a lot of surprises, and a heartbreak at the end. 762 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: But through it all it's forged even stronger bonds between them. 763 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: Almost more than anything else. The story of the St. 764 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: Barry's Mock Trial team, it's a story of friendship. All right, 765 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: Here we go again, can't wait to get back all 766 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: the ruin again. Love is making music. Um the show. 767 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: I'll do the background. You know when we're we're in 768 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: the core house. You were inquired. That's a conversation for 769 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 1: another day. Look, you need to hear about it that sort. 770 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 1: You ever feel like you've been in a boxing match 771 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 1: with the person that taught you how to box, It's 772 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: like not, it's yeah, I mean it's a lot. It's 773 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: kind of like going against a child or something where 774 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 1: you know you're proud of him, but you're also trying 775 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: to beat him. Um, and I do want to be 776 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: them because I think it's justice from my client. That's 777 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: next time on Class Action. Last Action is a production 778 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio and Sound Argument. Created, produced, written, 779 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 1: and edited by Kevin Huffman and Lisa Gray. Additional story 780 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 1: production by Jennifer Swan, Kristen Cabrera, Jason Foster, and Wendy Nardi. 781 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: Executive producers are Taylor Chacogne and Katrina Norvelle. Sound design, 782 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: editing and mixing by Evan Tyre and Taylor Chacogne. This 783 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: episode had additional field production by Kristin Cabrera and Alfredo 784 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: de la Garza. For more podcasts from I heart Radio, 785 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: visit the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 786 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: you get your favorite shows.