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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet. We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the

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Speaker 1: betting show that makes the squares sharper and makes the

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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chadmilman. I am joined

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Speaker 1: as always, buy, my co host, my companion, my compadre,

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Speaker 1: my BFF, professional better. Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Chad, what

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Speaker 1: a day, dude? Ops downs all around? We got major

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Speaker 1: superstar injury to report. Just about every game we didn't

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Speaker 1: put in was a way that we should have gone.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to it. Our final five Kansas

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Speaker 1: City minus four and a half, Buffalo minus one and

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Speaker 1: a half, Rams minus five and a half, Packers minus

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Speaker 1: two and a half. We got Minnesota plus five and

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Speaker 1: a half. Tonight, last ones out Washington and New Orleans. Simon.

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Speaker 1: In the early windows, the favorites, all the big favorites,

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Speaker 1: the huge favorites covered really easily except for two, the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Giants who are playing the Commanders. Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you know it? The Chiefs were the reason we didn't

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Speaker 1: want to change any of our picks this morning. They

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Speaker 1: were the pivot point for the entire roster today. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: we could have had the Commanders in there, we could

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Speaker 1: have had the Saints in there. Instead, we're sitting here

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Speaker 1: two and two, crazy, crazy day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great games, but we can't help ourselves. We are

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Speaker 2: the two and two teams. So yeah, we need the

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Speaker 2: Vikings once again for another three and two weeks.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, look, I'm not loving the chances that

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Speaker 1: we had a choice of three teams that we wanted

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Speaker 1: and now we're like the odds of that happening, or

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Speaker 1: at least the third team covering. Not feeling great going

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Speaker 1: into that Vikings Cowboys game tonight. It was also such

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Speaker 1: a weird day because in the first half it seemed

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Speaker 1: like the Chiefs were the absolute right side and it

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Speaker 1: seemed like the Bills were getting killed, and then it

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Speaker 1: seemed like the Rams were the absolute wrong side and

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Speaker 1: the Packers were dominating, and in the second half everything flipped.

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Speaker 1: We're now two and two. Let's start with that Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Chargers game. So right before we came on air, the

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Speaker 1: just a bummer. You never like to see the most dynamic,

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Speaker 1: with an injury. Obviously, we're not going to go the

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Speaker 1: timetable when will he return? Those things usually take at

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Speaker 1: least a year, so that's a total bummer to be

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Speaker 1: thinking about how we're going to manage that for the

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Speaker 3: Ding dong the witch is dead off of his head.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, come on, it's over.

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Speaker 3: Chiefs fans.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was going to do shame on them,

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Speaker 2: but I got it for someone else. But this is yes,

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Speaker 2: this is suck. We lost money. Yeah, terrible read whatever.

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Speaker 2: There was thirteen to three, we were feeling pretty good

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Speaker 2: and this is a choke artist of a Chief team.

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Speaker 3: They just completely fell apart.

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Speaker 2: Chargers outplayed them, especially in that second half, and just

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Speaker 3: I think it was forty two seconds left. It's just so.

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Speaker 1: Unstags dude, thirty three seconds left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hate the Chief so it's hard not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's over. It's over. You guys haven't drafted

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Speaker 3: well either. Holy shit. It might be dark dark days

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Speaker 3: ahead of this Chiefs franchise. I love it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the crazy like we've been talking about every week,

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Speaker 2: have just been hitting this Chiefs team every week, steaming

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Speaker 2: So I mean we got to run through this the schedule.

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Speaker 2: How it turned.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Washington they won twenty eight to seven.

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Speaker 2: We got Herbert, I mean he played so well. Tons

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Speaker 3: Pretty insane the outcome in this game.

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Speaker 1: Look, Herbert was not looking good in those first say,

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Speaker 1: they just they just they lost it. Like they deconstructed.

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Speaker 1: They imploded is the word I'm looking for. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: So but that was also that was also a look.

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Speaker 1: They had multiple drives in the charger's side of the

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Speaker 1: it came back to bite them. But we're not there yet.

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Speaker 1: We're not there yet, Simon, because first we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Buffalo Bills, who were one and a

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Speaker 1: After we were done with the show this morning, we're

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Speaker 1: of our teams, the Bears against the Browns and the

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, if you're there, tell everybody sort of the

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Speaker 1: mantra you told yourself in case the Bills lost today.

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Speaker 4: I let you guys know that I was telling myself,

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Speaker 4: I was not gonna let a regular season Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 4: game ruin my entire lovely sunday with my family.

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Speaker 3: Because I was.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of coaching myself into a positive outcome.

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Speaker 4: it's just a football game. And luckily I did let

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Speaker 4: an absolutely electric Sunday afternoon full of awarding my children

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Speaker 4: an absolutely great death.

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Speaker 1: You had a very specific time. You're like, if the

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Speaker 1: I've got a whole day. I can't let it ruin it.

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Speaker 1: And then you sent the most adorable picture of your daughter.

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Speaker 1: Tell everyone what that scenario was, because it's adorable.

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Speaker 4: It felt like a negative fifteen outside in Milwaukee, so

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Speaker 4: we're stuck inside all day and the Bills go down

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Speaker 4: twenty one. Nothing. Dead's in a pretty sour, grinchy mood,

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Speaker 4: and I said, kids, if the Bills come back and

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Speaker 4: I asked my daughter what you wanted? My five year

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Speaker 1: I was like, hell, yeah, girl.

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Speaker 4: She got the biggest, deepest, bubbliest bath and ate the

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it from Maxine Mitchell.

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Speaker 4: Last thing, last thing that I'll get out here, friend

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Speaker 4: of the show nineteenth century Russian novelist Fyodor Dosavsky. It

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Speaker 4: reminds us that we can only fully experience the thrill

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Speaker 4: game was a great encapsulation of that. It was only

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Speaker 1: Everybody go Bills, author of The Gambler. We are the

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Speaker 1: most literate sports bidding podcast in America. You know what's

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Speaker 1: interesting Simon. In the beginning of this game, there was

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Speaker 1: a play early in the game, Keisham Bouti caught a

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Speaker 1: called in complete. They didn't do a quick review, the

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Speaker 1: snapped it. They eventually scored a touch on that drive.

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Speaker 1: The very next series, there's a clear uh juggling at

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Speaker 1: immediate review from the officials, who overturn it. And like

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Speaker 1: that to me set the tone for the entire first

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Speaker 1: half because it was ugly, truly ugly. Drake May was Bacon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was cursing Sean McDermott's name. I was just like,

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Speaker 2: this guy is literally what Man Mitchell says. He's a

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Speaker 2: corpse on the sideline. Sometimes, how do you not throw

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Speaker 2: a flag on that? That's such a momentum shifting play.

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Speaker 2: It's honest moment in the moment I thought the ball

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Speaker 3: So very bizarre, and I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I not that I was panicking, but it was just like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this game was going to start, in the sense that

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Speaker 3: Point, had two or three straight three and outs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But you know when they got down twenty one nothing,

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Speaker 2: the exact moment we're all always supposed to bet Josh

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Speaker 1: Yeahon Henderson had that sixty five yard touchdown. You know,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we're we're in a unique spot.

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Speaker 2: We're down twenty one to seven and a half and basically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think we were down twenty four to

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Speaker 2: No, No, they got that field goal though the second half.

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Speaker 2: we just had a satan run where Josh Allen basically

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Speaker 3: I think Josh had a little throat at the end.

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Speaker 2: This Bills team does have major weaknesses, but the Josh

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Speaker 2: be Drake May's moment? And it was looking that way

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Speaker 2: for that first half where it's like, Okay, MVP, all

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Speaker 2: still wouldn't be that worried if I was a fan.

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Speaker 2: That's an all the timer back and went with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the discrepancies first half, the second half. When I

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Speaker 1: most in the NFL. Bills have outscored their opponents by

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Speaker 1: In the second half, they outgained the Patriots by I

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Speaker 3: Two passing yards in the first quarter. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: It was stunning. Yeah, listen, we love Josh Allen. We're

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Speaker 2: Kryptonide's gone too. He doesn't have to worry about the

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Speaker 2: big bad wolf, the Chiefs. It's like, if you're if

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Speaker 2: you're the Bills, who cares if you're the seventh seed

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Speaker 3: It's got this.

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Speaker 1: The year, they did get some calls, like all the

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Speaker 1: down twenty four to twenty one. Josh Allen flings it

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Speaker 2: I think they had a fourth at fourth and fourth

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Speaker 1: Was definitely inference called against Keon Coleman.

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Speaker 2: We said every game though, the refs make huge calls.

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Speaker 1: Getting kind of ridiculous. And you know what, every single

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will just say this, every single one

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Speaker 2: If they could stop the run, you flip side of

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Speaker 3: You know, it feels like we should have won buy more, honestly, Chad,

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Speaker 2: This was gonna be one of my bigger bets this

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Speaker 2: So you know, this Rams team, thank god we backed

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Speaker 1: they just widened the gap again and again and again.

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Speaker 1: Really really impressive win for them overall against a team

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Speaker 1: that did not want to give in another team that

438
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Speaker 1: had Super Bowl aspirations that honestly felt like they should

439
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Speaker 1: have crushed in this game, but we got boon nixed Buddy.

440
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Speaker 1: Green Bay minus two and a half at Denver. Green

441
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Speaker 1: Bay forces a fumble on the first drive, kicks a

442
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Speaker 1: field goal. Second drive starts inside the five yard line,

443
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Speaker 1: ends in a field goal. That to me was sort

444
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Speaker 1: of the difference in the game. Like, you need to

445
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Speaker 1: be scoring touchdowns against a team that is going to

446
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Speaker 1: be as aggressive and continues to go for it all

447
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Speaker 1: the time as the Broncos. And if bo Nicks is

448
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Speaker 1: on one for freaking touchdowns, you're in big trouble. And

449
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Speaker 1: he was on one today, which we did not expect.

450
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Speaker 1: We actually not only didn't we not expect it, we

451
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Speaker 1: expected the worst bone which is why we were betting

452
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Speaker 1: on the Packers.

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he looked like the veteran. He totally outplayed

454
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Speaker 2: Jordan Love and he did. You nailed at green Bay,

455
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: settling for four field goals. It just just killed us.

456
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: They just there's the specially the number one team in

457
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Speaker 2: the red zone offensively, and they kind of went up

458
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: against the defense is one of the number one defenses

459
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: in the red zone stopping team, so you know, they

460
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: gave it all the stats. Green Bay also the best

461
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Speaker 2: third down team. Denver one of the best defensive third

462
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Speaker 2: down teams, So Denver gave a lot of points twenty six,

463
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Speaker 2: but they did.

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Speaker 3: They never broke, they bent, they never broke.

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Speaker 2: So a game where you know, Jordan Love is playing

466
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Speaker 2: pretty well overall, but it really was a Josh S.

467
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Speaker 3: Jacobs game.

468
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Speaker 2: Like he had an incredible run, incredible catch for a touchdown.

469
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Speaker 3: He was just really dominating.

470
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Speaker 2: They kind of took him away, put the game on

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Speaker 2: the Jordan Love Watson gets knocked out, and it's just

472
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Speaker 2: they couldn't recover offensively. They just ran moving the ball,

473
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Speaker 2: passing and he threw two picks. One wasn't really his fault,

474
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Speaker 2: the other one really was. And you know, anytime we

475
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Speaker 2: bet against bone Nicks and he throws for three hundred

476
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Speaker 2: yards and four touchdowns, you mean we can no longer

477
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Speaker 2: say that Packers are a good defense.

478
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Speaker 3: So I mean it's it was bad. And you know,

479
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: we talked.

480
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: About the line. We we got to two and a half.

481
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be done anyway. Chat there was

482
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Speaker 2: a number, a weird number there where it's like this

483
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Speaker 2: is probably gonna land on one and a half for

484
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Speaker 2: this Kream Bay team if they are even going to cover.

485
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Speaker 2: But they threw that pick another turnover and they went

486
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Speaker 2: down by nicks to score it again, and it was

487
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Speaker 2: just I think they lost by eight, so bad bet,

488
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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, it's it's tough to get her

489
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Speaker 2: in this Packers team. Now they are without potentially Watson,

490
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: they might have lost Michael Partser with Us of the Year,

491
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Speaker 2: and it's just.

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Speaker 1: ESPN headline right now sources pack believes Micah Parsons has

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Speaker 1: a torn aco.

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Speaker 2: So again, you don't want to say the Super Bowl

495
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Speaker 2: windows closed, but you're already a suspect defense and you've

496
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Speaker 2: just lost an All Pro first ballot All Pro.

497
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Speaker 3: So it's I don't know, Green Bay.

498
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Speaker 2: It's it's tough to see if I still think that

499
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Speaker 2: get wild card, but it feels like now Lines and

500
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Speaker 2: Bears might be in the position out to win this division.

501
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: So really brutal loss for the for the Screen Bay team,

502
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Speaker 2: not just you know, obviously losing this game, but losing

503
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Speaker 2: Parsons to that Typevender just can't get most words.

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Speaker 1: The top three headlines on ESPN dot com right now.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes Terror's Acl Parsons believe to have torn ACL. DeVante

506
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Speaker 1: Adams exits with hamstring injury, and then Joe Burrow explaining

507
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Speaker 1: that his comments this week were not directed towards Cincinnati.

508
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Speaker 1: So a lot of bad news for the biggest and

509
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Speaker 1: brightest names and the teams that everybody counts on year

510
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Speaker 1: after year after year to be the marquee matchups change

511
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Speaker 1: Even though Drake May didn't win today, he definitely was

513
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514
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515
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Speaker 1: like the Bears avoided the trap against the Browns and

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Speaker 1: now they get the Packers at home next week. We're

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Speaker 1: All right, brother, the games we left out. Carolina at

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Speaker 1: they got like twelve seconds left. Tyler Shuck runs a

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Speaker 1: He means the game. They win the game because Tyler

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Speaker 1: Shuck had let him down the field with a game

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Speaker 1: time touchdown with like a minute fifty left. I thought

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Speaker 1: at that point, Simon, I thought it was Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: time they flashed a graphic on the screen. Since twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, Bryce Young has eleven game winning drives in

568
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter and ot most in the NFL. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: at least I got the three. I did not expect

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Speaker 1: the Saints to win that game, and.

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Speaker 3: That was your first mistake because they were a favorite.

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young is a favorite.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we have to just until it's broken,

574
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Speaker 2: until he wins like three in a row. I feel

575
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Speaker 2: like you just have to keep blindly betting a which

576
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to say.

577
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Speaker 3: I just blindly bet.

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00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: This when it really was just about the number in

579
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Speaker 2: this matchup, and I felt like it's a true test

580
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: for this Panthers team or the pressure. How can you

581
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: not feel it? Right you watch? They're all together. There's

582
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind they were all together. They're

583
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: a close team. They watched that Tampa game, they had

584
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Speaker 2: three days to think about it leading to this game,

585
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: and they came out and played pretty well, Like offensively,

586
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: they moved the ball pretty well. Saints look pretty lost.

587
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: They just never put them away. They could never be

588
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Speaker 2: consistent offensively.

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00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: And they were up ten ten and the fourth yeah.

590
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, ten and the fourth're right, and you know the Saints, uh,

591
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Speaker 2: you know this shuck thing. I talked a little bit

592
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Speaker 2: about it coming into it where it's like there's an

593
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Speaker 2: avenue for it.

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Speaker 3: He just shows up big in these moments.

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Speaker 2: And you know, twenty four thirty two, twenty seventy two yards,

596
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 2: a touchdown passing, he led the team in rushing, eight

597
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: carries for thirty two yards. It's it's crazy how good

598
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: this kid is. Like if he was the number two

599
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Speaker 2: and number three pick, we'd all be going crazy right

600
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Speaker 2: now because this te this kid's totally flipped this team

601
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Speaker 2: around here down at the end.

602
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Speaker 3: So really really impressive win by the Saints.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, I never not that I didn't think we're

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Speaker 2: gonna cover the two and a half, But like you said,

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Speaker 2: it's when they didn't go for the two and Bryson

606
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: got the ball back, it's like, Okay, Brice will probably

607
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: drive the field you're and get the three. But Saints

608
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 2: defense really showed up in that second half. And you know,

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00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: this is always tough for these divisional games. And you

610
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Speaker 2: know Bryce Seung gets that seven in the third corner

611
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Speaker 2: and doesn't score another point the rest of the game. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, Shuck scores thirteam in that third and fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: So really impress have come back win by the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Don't look now, but the New Orleans Saints are four

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Speaker 1: and a half point home favorites next week against the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets.

617
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Speaker 3: Well, and I'll update.

618
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Speaker 2: I'll see what his odds are, but I think he

619
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: might be down to fifty to one via offensive Rookie

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Speaker 2: of the Year. So I throw a penny on that

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00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: two hundred and one. It's a fun bet.

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Speaker 1: Look good for Kellen Moore. I continue like, by the way,

623
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Speaker 1: good for Kellen Moore, Good for Dave Canalis, both of

624
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: them good young coaches, good play callers. They're building a

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Speaker 1: culture of winning with teams that in the most recent

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Speaker 1: past have been losers and kind of directionless. And they've

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Speaker 1: got these teams moving in a direction that sort of

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Speaker 1: buoys them and gives them spirit and gives them hope

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Speaker 1: for the next year. It's it's exciting to see and

630
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Speaker 1: look that the Panthers are still in it. The Panthers

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Speaker 1: play the Bucks next week. They're hosting the Bucks next week,

632
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Speaker 1: so and they are, by the way, just getting people

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Speaker 1: primed here. Carolina is a one and a half point

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Speaker 1: home dog against the Tempa Bay Box. Well, you know

635
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: what we're going to do there. Yeah, I don't even

636
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: think we have to question it. The other game, Washington

637
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: plus two and a half of the New York Giants

638
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: shame on us. Like we talked about it. We started

639
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Speaker 1: talking about it early in the week, whether it was

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels or Marcus Mariota. We got more excited about

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Speaker 1: it when it was Mariota. We talked about it this

642
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: morning and stupidly decided we didn't want to open up

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Speaker 1: our picks because we didn't want to lose the number

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Speaker 1: on the on the Chiefs. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again, it's tough. I like them all week. I

646
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Speaker 3: liked our favorites bad in today.

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Speaker 2: But I did give you the option if there's a

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Speaker 2: game you want to switch out, we can do it.

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00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: I really didn't have a game where I was like, no,

650
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: we have to switch out this team. But like we

651
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: always say, it's the hindsight. We knew there was one

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Speaker 2: of those favorites we should have taken out. And you know,

653
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Speaker 2: for me, I like to think it would have been

654
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. I probably would have been Green Bay. But

655
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: if the Green Bay was minus one and a half,

656
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: would have been tough to switch them out at that point.

657
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, bad, bad myths. The Washington really dominated that

658
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: game and Giants almost got a gift to the end

659
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: of it. There was a horrible fumble and the Giants

660
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: almost were in the position. But you know, Dart, he

661
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: looked like such a rookie in that game. Washington was begging,

662
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: he's for him to come back and win that game,

663
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: and he just couldn't steal it. So he was I

664
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 2: think he was plus two twenty for Offensive Rookie Year.

665
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna drop way down as well. So

666
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: so again him and McMillan, those were the two big

667
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: favorites for Offensive Rookie the Year. I really can't wait this,

668
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: people are gonna tell I AM very fired up about

669
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: this kid and what the Saints team did today. So

670
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: it Commander's Mariota that that stat. We got to keep

671
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: it in the back from our mind chat. That shutout

672
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: stat now five and oh this season, and it's crazy,

673
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: it's not a crazy run.

674
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty amazing, all right, A couple questions.

675
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: In my head.

676
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: I said about it and said that if the team

677
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 2: gets shoot out the week before, they are now five

678
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: and zero this season, covering the spread the following week.

679
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: Joe Connelly, watching the show right now, wants to know.

680
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: I know your answer. Are the forty nine ers the

681
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: team to beat in the NFC? I don't know how

682
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: we can say that right now with the Rams playing

683
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: the way they're playing. I like the Rams just beat

684
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: the Lions. The Rams have been showing up big. The

685
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Niners have been doing it for three weeks now with

686
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: Brock Purdy, but they're still so limited on defense. They

687
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: have so many injuries, they have so many guys who

688
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: aren't their top line guys. To me, the Rams just

689
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 1: have a better roster of their top line talent right now.

690
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: I love that Joe's fired up.

691
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, the reason we like the for Nash coming

692
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: of the season is there are schedules a joke, so

693
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: the same as the Patriots. It's like they're going to

694
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: be a high seed they I mean going back to

695
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: the games they lost, you know that really bad games

696
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: of the Rams when it was mac Jones or maybe

697
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: it was Brock, but it was forty two to twenty six.

698
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: They've since then they beat Arizona, they beat Carolina, they

699
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: bet they beat Cleveland. Now they beat Tennessee. Yeah, the

700
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: remaining games are the Colts. Then they get a you know,

701
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: pretty tough Bears team, and then the Seahawks. So you

702
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: know we'll know more about them the next four weeks.

703
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: I just you lose your number one pass rusher and

704
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: then you lose Fred Warner sala Is. You know, if

705
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: they gave DC's Coach of the Year awards, he'd win

706
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: it for me. Like what he's done in or Flores.

707
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: You know what they've put those two guys have done

708
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 2: with scraps has been really impressive.

709
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: But forty nine or so much more. Their their defense

710
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: every week just plays so hard.

711
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: Well, look what we said in the offseason about the

712
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: most important additions in all of football. The names that

713
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: we kept dropping were Robert sala and Ben Johnson. As

714
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: we thought Ben, like Robert sala was gonna have such

715
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: a huge impact on that Niners defense. We're seeing it

716
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of guys who don't have a lot

717
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: of experience. I wonder if will will be the same

718
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: on a Hero of the week. But give me your

719
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: shame on you.

720
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: Pretty easy, god to shame on you.

721
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: To all these Patriots fans, oh my god, were they

722
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: loud and cocky? If you if you would have heard

723
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: or going on social media chat for that first half,

724
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: not that it feels like all the worst people are

725
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: are Patriots fans. I feel bad for the Patriots fans.

726
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: You're just your lotest fans are the worst people on

727
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: the internet, and they're the loudest ones. And they took

728
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: the most insane victory lap because they say they're a

729
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: veteran and they've been there. They've done that amateur amateur

730
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: hour taking a victory lap in a divisional game against

731
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: Josh Allen when you're up twenty one to nothing. So

732
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: my god, that would that felt so good until the

733
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: witch got killed in that Chiefs game. Other than that,

734
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: this this Patriots lost. Just their fans. They're so loud.

735
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: They think they know football because they Tom Brady. It's

736
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. It's like, you

737
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: guys don't know football. You just had one of the

738
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: greatest dynasties ever. It's you know, they're this they're little

739
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: ahead of their time. They want Drake Made to be

740
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: that guy. He looks the part, but taking that victory

741
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 2: lap just was such a bad look for your guys

742
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: fan base. So I know it's not all of you, right,

743
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: I'm an Eagles fan. I know one third of my

744
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 2: fan base for full on idiots. They wanted to bench

745
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: an all pro Super Bowl MVP quarterback after a couple

746
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 2: of bad weeks. So I get it Patriot's fans, but man,

747
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: the loud ones, I just really do. I wait to

748
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: see them in a game, to go back and check

749
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: people's comments and just hate read. And yeah, I threw

750
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: on Boston and local radio when I drove back from

751
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: Atlantic City. It was just it was a fun hour

752
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: drive back to my place listening to these fans up

753
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: in New England talking about their team and that Bill's loss.

754
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: So I love it. I love it.

755
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Tom Brady, great line today.

756
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: I named Matthew Stafford throw that was a complete and

757
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: total dart. He calls it a one ball and then

758
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: he goes, that was just that was just a piss missile.

759
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means, but it sounds

760
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: like a great line that they used to talk about

761
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: in the locker room. It was fantastic. Listen, how do

762
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: you not shame the Chiefs for all it's worth. They

763
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: kind of never did figure out their offensive line issues.

764
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: They never did figure out their receiver issues. They never

765
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: did figure out their running back issues. They knew they

766
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: had these issues coming out of the Super Bowl blowout

767
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: last year, and I think they just believed while we

768
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: got Patrick Mahomes and he's going to make his magic,

769
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: and you can't do that again and again and again

770
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: if you don't have the personnel around you. They were

771
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: waiting for Rashi Rice. They thought Xavier Worthy would develop

772
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: into that guy. Hollybird Brown hasn't been that guy. Pacheco

773
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt aren't those guys. Travis

774
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: kelce is a year. Their defense did not come up

775
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 1: big when they needed that defense to come up big

776
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: again and again and again and again. The roster needed

777
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: to be fixed, and they kind of didn't fix it.

778
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: And as you pointed out, they didn't draft well. So

779
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: we can go on and on about the deficiencies on

780
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: the field, the misplays, the bad calls, but at the

781
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: end of the day, they kind of didn't have the

782
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: talent to do what they need to do, and we

783
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: saw that in the Super Bowl last year, and they

784
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: just didn't develop enough to put it in place to

785
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: be able to execute this year. So shame on the

786
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: Chiefs personnel team for not building a roster that could

787
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: make Patrick Mahomes continue to be the hero that he

788
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: had always been. And now he's got a torn a seal.

789
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 3: It's over. Your season's over. It's not even January, and

790
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: your seasons over. Kansas City fans, Oh my god, so good.

791
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: I know who my hero is. I wonder if it's

792
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: the same one as yours.

793
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I probably gave it away a little. It's

794
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: gotta be. It's gotta be my boy shuck.

795
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, I mean, yeah, sure he could be.

796
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: But he is.

797
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: He did exactly what I needed him to do as

798
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: someone that bet his rookie future and just bet into

799
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: this New Orleans game. And people know, if you listen

800
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: to the show, Simon says, has been better than dead.

801
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: Just people dancing on the grave of Simon says, just

802
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: that was the thinking about a name change.

803
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: It's how dead that bet was needed?

804
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: Needed, Yeah, exactly needed, needed. The Saints badly today. And

805
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: you know, the plus two and a half, we didn't

806
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: really force it in because it's like we knew it

807
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: was gonna come down to the three fl like either side,

808
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: it was just gonna be a three point game and

809
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: we needed to man up.

810
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: We didn't man up.

811
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: But my hero Shuck just an absolute game, like I

812
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: already gave it out two understand two yards and a

813
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: touchdown and led the team in rushing. Just I can't

814
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: wait to see if they reopened him for offensive rookie

815
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: year because they're not opening it yet, and I am

816
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what the cash out offers

817
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: these books offer me because just laying in a two

818
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: hundred to one, not realizing the path for him it's there,

819
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: and yeah, this is just if you're a Saints fan,

820
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: how you not be excited? I think he broke Archie

821
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Manage's passing record because it's like a thousand, two hundred

822
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: yards or something insanely.

823
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: Low like that.

824
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: So pretty pretty cool what Chuck's done for the Saints

825
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: team in this small amount of time.

826
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: Dude, Philip Rivers came off the bench where he's been

827
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: sitting for five years and had his team in the

828
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: lead with like late late late in the fourth quarter

829
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: against one of the best defenses in the NFL and

830
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: a team that is potentially going to be the number

831
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: one seed in the NFC, and the dude had a

832
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. He had one hundred and twenty yards passing.

833
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: He had eighteen completions. He completed nearly seventy percent of

834
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: his passes, sixty seven percent of his passes. Like come on,

835
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. On a day where the Titans didn't cover

836
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: a huge number, a double digit number, the Jets didn't

837
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: cover a double digit number, the Las Vegas Raiders didn't

838
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: cover a double digit number. There was one more that

839
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: I can't remember in the early game that did not

840
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: cover a double digit number. Philip Rivers not just covered

841
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: a double digit number. He almost pulled off the upset.

842
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: Five years since he last played, he last played during COVID,

843
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: that's how long it's been since he played. He became

844
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: a grandfather since he last played. The dude almost pulled

845
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: off an upset. He definitely got the back, definitely got

846
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: the cover. Good for Philip Rivers.

847
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've joked that we had to, you know, before

848
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: we entered our show earlier that you had to kind

849
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: of put a little bit on the cold twenty line.

850
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: And I honestly can't believe it was a live bet,

851
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: just because as much praiser giving philp Rivers, it was

852
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: again maybe is better than whatever was out there. But

853
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: my god, he did look every bit of forty five years.

854
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was like pushing Philip Rivers always

855
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: had a weird delivery, right. It always looked like he

856
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: was pushing the ball a little bit, but when he

857
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: would push the ball, it would still go sixty yards.

858
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: He was pushing the ball today and it was wobbly

859
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: and looked like it was going to go six feet.

860
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: And the best part was as an overweight guy, there's

861
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: something called a fat pick where you always pick out

862
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: your hoodie or like a tight shirt at your belly.

863
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: He fat picked the entire game. Just could not like.

864
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: My buddy turned me, He's like, is he wearing.

865
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: Like a flat jacket?

866
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: I was like, no, that's just this passage like this

867
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: is you're seeing a poor forty five year old. But yeah,

868
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: I'll eat it with We didn't talk much about Rivers.

869
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know there was people out there like I

870
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 2: love Rivers. Who doesn't love Rivers the Gunslinger. In my mind,

871
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 2: this man did not snit does not sniff Hall of Fame,

872
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: and apparently people think he does. Like a lot of

873
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: people out there reach out me after our show. They're like,

874
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: you're hating on Rivers. He's the Hall of Famer, And

875
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: it's just like guys, playoffs have to mean something. I'm

876
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: all for regular season stats, but a man that went

877
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: five and seven in the playoffs and never went to

878
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: one AFC championship, never won an AFC Championship game, and

879
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: had a Hall of Fame running back in LT and

880
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame tight ending Antennio Gates. I mean,

881
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: what do we There has to be a line somewhere.

882
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 2: So Philip Rivers is really impressive of what he did today.

883
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: And if I'm a Colts fan, you are dead, but

884
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: you're not totally dead, like you can see with him

885
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: as your quarterback, you can hang in games.

886
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: I think he'll get better as the games go along.

887
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: We'll see if he's healthy after this game, because he

888
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: did take some huge hits and like we said, he

889
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: hasn't a hit or anything like that in five years.

890
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting how his body handles getting back

891
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: into football.

892
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: Well, you could already see him on the sideline. He

893
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: was getting treatment. They were taking him through stretching exercises.

894
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.

895
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: At one point I saw him on the sideline and

896
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: is I couldn't see the person behind him that was

897
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: sort of propping him up and manipulating his body. But

898
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: he had his hand up and I kept thinking like

899
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: a player was coming over to give him a high five,

900
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: and it wasn't that. It was just a dude behind

901
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: him who was like moving his shoulder around and it

902
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: happened to be how his hand was lifted. So, you know,

903
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: playoffs means something. I agree, Josh Allen never been to

904
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. MVP broke all of Cam Newton's you know,

905
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: records as a dual threat quarterback. No one says Cam

906
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: Newton's going to the Hall of Fame. And he was

907
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: a revolutionary player for ten years, won an MVP and

908
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: took his team to a Super Bowl.

909
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I put a pull out and he was

910
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: the fourth lowest voted. So he was voted behind Matt Ryan,

911
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: behind Rivers, and behind Russell Wilson. So the fans of

912
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: war showed they do not think highly.

913
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 3: At all of cam Newton. So interesting, right, yeah, very interesting?

914
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 1: All right? Simon says, like you said, New Orleans plus

915
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: two and a half boo, Green Bay was Chad's choice,

916
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: not not a good choice. Brass Balls is Minnesota plus

917
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: five and a half, rock and a heart play was

918
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo minus one and a half Sharp versus Square chadhead Buffalo.

919
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: Simon had the Rams favorites Parlay Rams Yay, Green Bay boo,

920
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City Buffalo yay. Pittsburgh Tomorrow Night underdog Parlay Cincinnati, Washington, Minnesota,

921
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: don't know, Las Vegas, don't bummer New Orleans woo all right,

922
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: Early Leans. We know we got to talk about Carolina

923
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: as a one and a half point dog against the

924
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: Bucks at home. We don't like betton Caroline on the

925
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: road as a favorite. We don't mind betting Carolina as

926
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: a dog. And if you honestly, which team off of

927
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: a bad loss feels like it has momentum? Right, more momentum?

928
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: Which team feels like it has more spirit? Which team

929
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: feels like it's playing harder. Which team feels like it

930
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: might be running away from its coach? Which team is

931
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: fully invested in his coach? As I say, all those things.

932
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: It makes me think, oh my god, I gotta bet

933
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: the Bucks. But we want to bet the Niners or

934
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: the Panthers.

935
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bucks fan base, I've I've been on there Reddit,

936
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: all the Leam Cole Cohne articles I can read. It's

937
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: brutal when you let that man walk out the door

938
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: and Todd Bowles just looks totally aged out and lost

939
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: as a head coach.

940
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: I mean, their defense Tampa is atrocious. So I'm with you.

941
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna rush to bed the one and a

942
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: half though, because I do think, Chad, we might we'll

943
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: get two's in there.

944
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 3: Like that Panthers loss. That was a bad loss.

945
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: That's gonna be more fresh in people's mind than that

946
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: Tampa loss, which Tampa you can make an excuse that

947
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: they are thankfully undervalued, right, they had a fourteen point lead,

948
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: they blew it like they had that game in so

949
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: many ways against Atlanta and so many things that a

950
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 2: break right for Atlanta from to lose it. So that's

951
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: a really interesting one to watch. What the number is

952
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: gonna do for that one? For me, games that just

953
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: jumped out right away, I know it's it's it's insane.

954
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: Chad but you're you're green Your your pairs are two

955
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: and a half three point dogs right now.

956
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: Well, I was that was the only other one on

957
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: my radar. Really, it's actually in some places it's too in.

958
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: Some pros are handing it.

959
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: Then I saw some three, so yeah, it's I'd grab

960
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: the early Bear twos and a half.

961
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: It's just Green Bay has so many injuries.

962
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: And even though the Bears have had injuries, I don't know,

963
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: you guys, your run game is so dominant, and the

964
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: Bears again in this matchup, I think they'll be able

965
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: to run against the Screen Bay team.

966
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: So I'm really excited to see the pros do that one.

967
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: I could see early money coming in on a little

968
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: floor's Green Bay team after a bad loss like that,

969
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see what the market does with that.

970
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree.

971
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's hit it again. Chargers plus one

972
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: and a half at Dallas. I gave you those stats.

973
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: Herbert is a dog. I gotta stop overthinking. Just keep

974
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: betting it. I mean, he just he's what twelve and

975
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: two now is a dog? He just always covers the dog.

976
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: It's crazy Herbert and everything I thought he would be

977
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: in that game, he did struggle in some aspects right now,

978
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: only scored sixteen points, but the hand was never truly

979
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: an issue, Like it was just what we've seen him

980
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: time and time again. He gets moved off the spot

981
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: where there's a heavy pass rush, but this indoors, with

982
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: all the elements controlled and him being three weeks now

983
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: since surgery, I think this line flips, especially if the

984
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: Viking's puffing upset tonight. So I'm gonna take the early

985
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: charges of the dog line and last one.

986
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: Can't can't believe I'm doing it.

987
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: But Patriots plus three plus two and a half right

988
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: now at the Ravens, something's just offul Lamar if that

989
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: felt like since he lost that game, not so much

990
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: the reas.

991
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every time I was watching that game, it

992
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: felt like since he was moving the ball and then

993
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: then they just couldn't score, like something just.

994
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: Had a horrible day.

995
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna back Rabel New England as

996
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: a dog here on the road, and I'm almost positive

997
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: the public's gonna coming on this Ravens team. I just

998
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: I think people are gonna be a little sour now

999
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: in this Patriots team. I think they'll have a letdown here,

1000
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: but I like that number a lot.

1001
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: All right. So what we're looking at right now, carolineup

1002
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: plus one and a half. We're holding off Chargers plus

1003
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: one and a half against Dallas Bears, plus two and

1004
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: a half against Green Bay, New England, plus two and

1005
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: a half, plus three against the Ravens. We won today

1006
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: with the Rams and with the Bills. We lost with

1007
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: the Packers and the Chiefs. We have the Vikings plus

1008
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: five and a half tonight. This has been Sharper Square

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00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,640
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Speaker 1: I like that kind about it.