Speaker 1: He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary
Speaker 1: queens rapper. He ain't agreed as your boy in O
Speaker 1: R E.
Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Put up its DJ.
Speaker 1: E f N together they drink it up with some.
Speaker 2: Of the biggest players, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one
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Speaker 1: Would it good be over this simp ship boy.
Speaker 3: And O R E?
Speaker 2: What up is DJ E f N And it's drink
Speaker 2: champs y make some no.
Speaker 4: And man, when we talk about people that's been doing it,
Speaker 4: you know, Corosse Sea's international over twenty year is records
Speaker 4: with some of the biggest people in the world.
Speaker 1: When you talk about the Manim, that's the Mandim and
Speaker 1: standing next to the Mandamn, you understand continue to do
Speaker 1: have respect. That's the biggest thing about it is.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you.
Speaker 4: Can have respect from the fans, you can have the
Speaker 4: respect from from from from the executives, but when you
Speaker 4: have respect from the actual artists, the actual community, the
Speaker 4: actual people who put out these who put out this culture,
Speaker 4: who stand behind them? I'm telling you the people who
Speaker 4: we everybody most respect respect.
Speaker 3: That's man.
Speaker 4: So in case I don't know who we talking about,
Speaker 4: we talking about the Mandem, the motherfucking one of the
Speaker 4: London's kings, and we're gonna get into all of that
Speaker 4: right now today.
Speaker 2: So so off.
Speaker 1: Top, I want to ask you, are we okay with ice?
Speaker 2: Is an ice goring up in here?
Speaker 3: Damn?
Speaker 1: I'm going to you know, because Trump is wild and
Speaker 1: he's taking even out London. Nobody ain't the joke. So later, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, y'ah, So I know, yeah, so I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know ya to excuse.
Speaker 5: Us from right now with all the crazy accents and
Speaker 5: probably will come out London, you know.
Speaker 1: But but but all right, let me ask you right
Speaker 1: way wait, I'll go to visas, okay, right, I didn't
Speaker 1: have backing up because because I heard that you at
Speaker 1: one point you were banned in your own country, right,
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is one time I got banned
Speaker 1: in London just for going through and not having a visa, right, okay,
Speaker 1: So is it like that in.
Speaker 4: The reverse like when you come to America? Are they
Speaker 4: are they is the Americans just as strict to yours
Speaker 4: as as the UK people are strict to us.
Speaker 1: I think more strict Americans, and.
Speaker 3: We need to hear this. You don't know, like we
Speaker 3: think it's Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got like even when I'm over here, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like, right, you know what I'm saying, like because
Speaker 1: none of my man them can come over here, none
Speaker 1: of them. So even the man then will be watching
Speaker 1: me over here, like but they're seeing me like around family,
Speaker 1: like family, but no one can get over here.
Speaker 3: I couldn't get here for ten years.
Speaker 1: Wow. And was this the same ten years that you
Speaker 1: was bearing from doing shows? Yeah, in the same time.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that, but yeah at the
Speaker 1: same time, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was kind of
Speaker 1: a misunderstandabay, because obviously I had convictions and stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I used to come over here. I used
Speaker 1: to like fill in the paper, bro, I know.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I used to because it said
Speaker 1: have you been convicted for more than five years for drugs?
Speaker 3: And I was thinking, I went heil for firearms. That
Speaker 3: ain't me, That's what I wought. So I used to
Speaker 3: take no, none of the suffer me.
Speaker 1: Then then one day I was going to Atlanta and
Speaker 1: then they just said yeah, this way went in the
Speaker 1: room and I was just sitting there for hours and
Speaker 1: then they even they said, yeah, have you been convicted?
Speaker 1: I said yeah, like and then they said, well why
Speaker 1: did you lie here? And I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the apply to me? And then they was like, we're
Speaker 1: not going to argue, don't come back, and then sent
Speaker 1: me back there. Then after that it was ten years,
Speaker 1: like oh wow, I'm back from yeah.
Speaker 3: And now.
Speaker 4: In America, how long did it take for you to
Speaker 4: cross over from from the UK market to America? Because like,
Speaker 4: predominantly this is a new thing for us, so right,
Speaker 4: like you know, hip hop has always just been us.
Speaker 4: Then I went to the West coast and then when
Speaker 4: it goes across the pond, were like, holy moly, So
Speaker 4: how long did it take for you to get the
Speaker 4: same respect that you had in the UK in America?
Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't even tell you that because like
Speaker 1: that that's when I was banned. Okay, so like like
Speaker 1: that kind of time in my career. What year was
Speaker 1: that's probably in between two thousand and ten to like
Speaker 1: two thousand, I think I came over in COVID.
Speaker 3: That's the first time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the iron is I was at them times in COVID.
Speaker 1: They locked down the country and they said no one
Speaker 1: from England is allowed to come to America in that time,
Speaker 1: Well a lot of.
Speaker 2: Countries couldn't come.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, but that was one of the you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 1: No one even mad people coming through Mexico, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They were saying, if you're quarantine.
Speaker 1: In Mexico for two weeks, then you can get to
Speaker 1: a through Mexico. But no one could get over here.
Speaker 1: And that's when I got my visa back and I've got.
Speaker 3: What's the word. It's like a.
Speaker 1: Pardon kind of thing to be able to come in COVID.
Speaker 1: So the irony is then I was the only english
Speaker 1: person allowed before I used to watch everyone else coming
Speaker 1: over and I was allowed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So that's how God works like.
Speaker 2: Crazy during a restricted time, you were yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so but yeah, but anyway, what I was saying was, yeah,
Speaker 1: so in all that time, like mad things were popping off.
Speaker 1: I was doing mad like featured like big collaborations. That
Speaker 1: even that time was when me and Drake just done
Speaker 1: the two tracks of More Life, you know, saying.
Speaker 3: That's like, that's that's Drake's album. Better. Yeah, I'm saying
Speaker 3: them times.
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed in America, So I don't even know
Speaker 1: how these songs are popping off. What's popping off if
Speaker 1: people know gigs? So by the time I've come back now,
Speaker 1: it's like legend gigs are and I'm thinking, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, love, love respect. Even when I linked you, yes,
Speaker 1: I remember that, you said he I saw you that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you watched my tic know.
Speaker 4: So what I didn't realize this morning because I'm speaking
Speaker 4: to Bleak and I go bleek, I gazed, and he
Speaker 4: goes ask that, Nigga, is it a burden on that
Speaker 4: shout out? He said, because it's a burden on my
Speaker 4: shot on. Everybody just thinks like, I'm a you know
Speaker 4: what his shoutout is? And then your shoutout is? How
Speaker 4: does your shoutout go?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 3: I see a lot of.
Speaker 4: So He's like, man, that was too much pressure on me.
Speaker 4: We just saying that to me, and I didn't realize,
Speaker 4: holy ship, like getting a shout out is a beautiful
Speaker 4: thing and one thing but then he said he sees
Speaker 4: you and him so so bleak is like, man, that's
Speaker 4: gotta be a burden.
Speaker 3: That's is a burden on me.
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking like I didn't even think like that,
Speaker 4: like like I'm sure, I'm sure there's beautiful part of that,
Speaker 4: but now this this man them saying you you're supposed
Speaker 4: to be the next hole. That's basically where he implied.
Speaker 4: Was that pressure on you at one point or another?
Speaker 1: The next I probably like you remind me, you remind
Speaker 1: me of myself.
Speaker 4: But you know how you do twist those words and say, yo,
Speaker 4: he sees you and him like whoa Like have you
Speaker 4: ever had like to prove that not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well seeing me like I'm growing up in like
Speaker 1: that dance or hip hop all of that stuff like
Speaker 1: the shower outs and like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like oh yeah me and big so high and now
Speaker 1: it's man's what it's hard enough to get the show from.
Speaker 3: Like that's like, that's that starts like a dream.
Speaker 1: Now even if you told me that, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, in twenty five years I was going
Speaker 3: to say, you remind me of it, you know, what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, my guy, like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So nah, no pressure. I was more like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so yeah no never man,
Speaker 1: and I heard you.
Speaker 4: Never really got the explanation where he did say to you,
Speaker 4: how does it feel?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That ship felt like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how.
Speaker 4: Does that feel like at the brunch? I'm asking you
Speaker 4: now I'm asking the other obviously, Christian, how did it
Speaker 4: feel like him shot you out out the brunch?
Speaker 1: The whole thing's mud, bro, It's crazy, like because like
Speaker 1: I said, man grew up in it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then like then there was a time
Speaker 1: when like England and England English rappers and Americans started
Speaker 1: connecting and then everyone's flying up. Like I saw like
Speaker 1: Crept and Co Nine shooting with French and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I saw like Chip with Chris Brown
Speaker 1: like and these times I'm just stuck in England watching
Speaker 1: the TV, you know what I'm saying. Like, so like
Speaker 1: fast forward to now, it's just like, yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, it's like that time and a lot of change. Yeah, bro,
Speaker 4: Like I remember me first hearing artist from England, especially
Speaker 4: a hip hop artist from England. People saw say, man,
Speaker 4: they sound funny, right, And now you get to hear
Speaker 4: a lot of English artists and it's like like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna ask you the question that Big Biggie said, did
Speaker 4: you ever think that English hip hop would make it
Speaker 4: this far?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did, man.
Speaker 1: Too. Yeah, it had to had to go that way,
Speaker 1: you know. But even from early.
Speaker 3: Like there was essays as well, right, that was my
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, that was open.
Speaker 4: To and from the yes, I'll tell you this, there hell.
Speaker 3: A dog there is and they corrupt. Man.
Speaker 4: They could wrap and they were using American slang mixed
Speaker 4: in with the slang.
Speaker 1: So I guess it was a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what is it for me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: People will say like says wrapped American, Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: wrapped English for English to me. For remember, I'm from
Speaker 1: inc So if someone's putting on a fake American accent,
Speaker 1: I'll be like a straight I don't even want to
Speaker 1: listen to that because it's not you know, but like
Speaker 1: them man were proper wrapping English. But obviously they was
Speaker 1: living over here in it, right, So like even me,
Speaker 1: I'm like half over here, half UK, so I know
Speaker 1: like certain things like you're just going to pronounce different.
Speaker 1: We swap over slang, like sometimes like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I might be with like Maine or something, and he'll
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, yeah, pattern that pattern, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, And sometimes I might be like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah that's a dub, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we'll both be swapping slang. And that's the only
Speaker 1: thing that was really happening to Sasty would be saying
Speaker 1: one or two American or that they might be mentioning
Speaker 1: ends in America or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were cold now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were hanging out.
Speaker 3: I used to roll to their.
Speaker 1: Thing like when them times man was in the trap
Speaker 1: heavy like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They deserve way more credits now they're cold.
Speaker 3: They were cold. It was just like you know what
Speaker 3: it was with them.
Speaker 1: It might have been a little bit ahead of their time.
Speaker 1: There was ahead of their time, and no disrespect to them,
Speaker 1: but no one like people didn't really know them like
Speaker 1: that in the streets, you know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 1: remember they've come to America and grew up, they went
Speaker 1: school there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know what they were over here doing.
Speaker 3: I watched their interviews.
Speaker 1: They said they went college and school, so they're not
Speaker 1: going to really be in the streets them times gaining respect, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, so man, them from
Speaker 1: England are.
Speaker 3: Like, who are these youths? Maybe man from their ends.
Speaker 1: Might know them, like, oh yeah, they grew up around here,
Speaker 1: but you know, I go the streets, needs to know
Speaker 1: the man's thing. So when you say the ends, you
Speaker 1: mean neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Ends means neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, neighbor Yeah, like if you if I'm in my hood,
Speaker 1: that your hood. You might like even if I go
Speaker 1: back to London, I might say, I'm back on the ends.
Speaker 1: If you came back to New York, yeah I'm on
Speaker 1: the ends, you know what I mean? Yeah, I was saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ends didn't really know them like that, so they
Speaker 1: couldn't really ride with them, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, when you when when that's your guy, you're
Speaker 1: seeing him, you know he's certified in the streets, like this.
Speaker 3: Is my god, I've got I've got the full the resume.
Speaker 1: They didn't really have that, so it kind of and
Speaker 1: then they were rappers. They were rappers, yeah, yeah, one
Speaker 1: of them wrong being a rapper.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but but I wouldn't say that like nerds or anything.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, I don't really know them like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: But yeah, there was there was a different eraror of
Speaker 5: hip hop as well, in terms of it wasn't as
Speaker 5: commercial even back then, right, So there's a there's a
Speaker 5: different era as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I know where hip hop was
Speaker 1: in America then for me.
Speaker 3: Them times, you know what huge? That's you know that.
Speaker 1: But I even yeah, see I heard them in jail.
Speaker 3: So I was in jail and I was listening to.
Speaker 2: I heard them. They wasn't a Rockefeller, No, I heard
Speaker 2: them before that.
Speaker 1: Okay, they was working because I heard them. I was
Speaker 1: in jail and I heard Westwood. I remember this because
Speaker 1: I remember I was in jail and was eating Met
Speaker 1: Donald's on the radar, and I was thinking, why the
Speaker 1: fuck you eating Met Donald's.
Speaker 3: Niggas are in jail hungry?
Speaker 1: I remember that, And I remember you were saying, yeah, congratulations,
Speaker 1: like you did the rock deal, and I was like,
Speaker 1: who are these guys.
Speaker 3: That's when I so that's when you were.
Speaker 5: Because for me, when when they made it to the rockets,
Speaker 5: to me, I'm like, oh, they they made it out
Speaker 5: of the underground, now okay, to me, they were already
Speaker 5: bubbling on an underground.
Speaker 4: And I'm saying this out of ignorance. You had the
Speaker 4: white labels or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway to your point them time, I think
Speaker 1: things are huge then UK for UK for like American okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: They were even they was a rockefellera at that time,
Speaker 3: were popping. I was like jail right, hell, they.
Speaker 1: Was on the diplomat immunity to especially for a UK artist.
Speaker 1: For me, I was these man of these man have gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So do you feel like you was? And I heard
Speaker 4: you heard you get asked this question. I heard you
Speaker 4: humbly answered, but do you feel like you're the O
Speaker 4: G at that new generation of you know, of UK
Speaker 4: hip hop?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely O G.
Speaker 1: I believe. I believe so too got that because before me,
Speaker 1: they weren't really like hip hop UK mainstream like that
Speaker 1: like well street gas, the rap like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It wasn't there was like there was hip
Speaker 1: hop like and there was the underground as well.
Speaker 3: So I came from obviously the.
Speaker 1: Underground UK rap with UK accents and street niggas and
Speaker 1: gang gang bangers and you know what I'm saying, that
Speaker 1: was that era. There was still hip hop before it,
Speaker 1: like there might have been like Colashal cough and even
Speaker 1: before that, like.
Speaker 3: I can't remember them.
Speaker 2: There's an artist Nam Klasnic cough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cold.
Speaker 1: But there was like they're gonna they're gonna be upsetting
Speaker 1: that because it's.
Speaker 3: A big drink chap.
Speaker 1: There was that man before that, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying like that, but it was that backpack kind of rap.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying about us Man was the
Speaker 1: streets and then then obviously that man took it mainstream
Speaker 1: like me, you know what I'm saying like, so it
Speaker 1: kind of starts with man.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, man means me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you think do you think baby Baby was one
Speaker 4: of your first mainstream records.
Speaker 3: Like that Baby? Yeah? Hell no. I was wait, okay
Speaker 3: talking the hardest, Okay, no.
Speaker 1: Talking, I got said my notes to alright, cool talking,
Speaker 1: the hardest, hooking, the hardest. Let me tell you what
Speaker 1: I noticed about that.
Speaker 4: You rhymed everything with ry the only thing you've left
Speaker 4: that was Nori. I was waiting for my shoutout. I
Speaker 4: was like, you got story. Everything is song? Is that
Speaker 4: what are you talking?
Speaker 2: I'm talking the hardest, took the hardest, that's.
Speaker 3: The right y Yeah yeah yeah, holding up, hold on up.
Speaker 3: They can tell you a story. Yeah yeah, y.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, my kid is coming to thought about
Speaker 1: like damn y' he everything, Like, I'm gonna take some
Speaker 1: of these lines, but let's talk talking the hardest. You
Speaker 1: think that was your your your person out of the
Speaker 1: first like because them times before talking artists, we didn't
Speaker 1: hear no like UK gangster rap in no parties.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You just hear like even in the UK, in the UK, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's what I meant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, UK.
Speaker 1: Even when someone had told me they had talking at
Speaker 1: this like a right, I didn't even take it serious.
Speaker 3: I mean so like yeah that like so yeah, that
Speaker 3: was like that's that's kind of why it's the national anthem.
Speaker 3: They called it the UK National Anthem. What I mean?
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 4: Our show was about giving people flowers. Well they can
Speaker 4: smell them. They thought us what they can tell them.
Speaker 4: They drinks while they can drink them, and they suppose
Speaker 4: what they think.
Speaker 1: We need to give your flowers face to face. Man, snoops,
Speaker 1: that is better than the grammy because it comes from
Speaker 1: your people.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. God damn So we wanted
Speaker 4: to give you your flowers. God damn it, you got
Speaker 4: silk coverings.
Speaker 6: O take some longer though, showing over Gigs, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: I might as well just give Drain his birthday. And
Speaker 5: he's from London, that's why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the brother.
Speaker 4: He's one from yeah from yeah, my boy, my boy
Speaker 4: right here, he's from northern yeah yeah, and it's his birthday, Gigs.
Speaker 3: I said, where he from in London? We need to
Speaker 3: really know where are you from?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Where are you laying? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, come here, Okay, so how long have you
Speaker 1: been here?
Speaker 2: He been to high school with me, so he's been here.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I can still head yeah yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you're grabbing Miami.
Speaker 2: Yeah ninety one and down ninety ninety school.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but you're from Miami.
Speaker 2: And originally l A but brazing Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean Miami's like, Miami's like that. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: New York's proper like, but like still sometimes I still
Speaker 1: got to like dumb it down when I talked yeah
Speaker 1: by here in Miami, yeah, because it's like more Caribbean.
Speaker 3: I just talked normal here kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Every accent.
Speaker 1: You can come to queens too. It's like that you
Speaker 1: got every accent. Yeah, so queen, that's a yeah. So
Speaker 1: is it shatter clock or yet? Let's go okay, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: got the okay, the light up? Okay, and you wrote
Speaker 1: a real splip that's like a real bat month splip. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you're originally from Africa though, right, No, No, I'm
Speaker 1: half Jamaican, quarter Guyanese and Grenadan.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, you're West India.
Speaker 1: I'm like when everyone came over the boat, there's no
Speaker 1: condoms and everyone my kind of age has got like
Speaker 1: fifteen brothers, and I can tell that's when everyone was
Speaker 1: just running around.
Speaker 3: What we're in lucky, I mean.
Speaker 4: Okay, so let me ask you a question that's very caustious.
Speaker 4: Versuy on drink camps, do you eat doubles.
Speaker 3: Like from Trinida? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what, I actually haven't tasted doubles. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that's the matter. Yeah that in Yeah, she haven't had
Speaker 1: a double before.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually get a lot of education about the
Speaker 3: Caribbean when I come here.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, even like Dominicans and like because you're Dominican.
Speaker 4: Porto Weekly poor, Yeah, we like to one's a little
Speaker 4: bit better.
Speaker 3: So we have American we have American money.
Speaker 7: Because I want to go ahead to Dominican report. If
Speaker 7: it's just got American.
Speaker 3: Monem Dominicans, ye, don't worry about it. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: But even so even before because we don't really in London,
Speaker 1: we don't really have like Porto Ricans and Dominicans like Ubans, yeah,
Speaker 1: but not a lot. Yes, it's more like Spain, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So even like those are the
Speaker 1: racist Latinos, just so you know, going it out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I come here, and they better than every other Latino.
Speaker 1: Sorry bad Spain Spanish people, Spain people. I'm sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't say that Argentinas. So even I'm remember I
Speaker 1: used to watch that paid them for yeah, and I
Speaker 1: saw you and paid them for you. And then there
Speaker 1: was that part when they said, yeah that when they said, yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Spanish kids said it.
Speaker 3: I used to rewind that part one hundred times, like
Speaker 3: where's the Spanish guy, I'm just Spanish. I'm just thinking
Speaker 3: white persons, but I'm not so rewinding it and I say,
Speaker 3: it's so many Norri here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I even used to rewind it back like before
Speaker 1: with the jail because I was describing. I'm thinking I'm
Speaker 1: missed something like you know what I mean. And then
Speaker 1: when I come here, that's when I started saying that
Speaker 1: Dominicans and I was seeing raw like it's just Caribbeans
Speaker 1: when he speaks Spanish, you know, So it's actually Dominicans
Speaker 1: are like Porto Ricans Like no, no, I'm saying you
Speaker 1: kind of like the advanced Caribbeans, right because you've got
Speaker 1: like Jamaica, like yeah, but you know, idea only how
Speaker 1: to speak Spanish, so you're kind of advanced man because
Speaker 1: island Cuba, come on, yeah cue, but because because everyone
Speaker 1: speaks Spanish, we forget your Caribbean.
Speaker 3: You know. That's well, yes, even.
Speaker 1: I got bridges from like Honduras and I ain't seen
Speaker 1: dark skinned Spanish people before. That's mad, Like I'm like raw,
Speaker 1: like you speak Spanish and your thoughts.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been a big like
Speaker 1: education coming here as well. You know, I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: the different cultures and that you mean.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so ready for quick Thomas, let's go. Okay,
Speaker 2: what's playing the rules.
Speaker 5: We're gonna give you two choices. If you pick one,
Speaker 5: we don't drink. But if you say both, are neither
Speaker 5: we drinking? Uh you've you've seen this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really like you know, harder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go like shots, we go like shots, yeah,
Speaker 2: like shots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I wanted to do the first one,
Speaker 4: but it's not going to be this first one, the
Speaker 4: first two, but it's not gonna be.
Speaker 1: So what we're doing shots of the ross class whatever
Speaker 1: you want? What's this call again that mama? Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the matter.
Speaker 2: This is the Dominican joint right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Nando's or Carbones?
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I say carbone, carbone, okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's two different things though, Yeah, that's what that was.
Speaker 3: Just like you're saying, like, that's like you're saying carbone
Speaker 3: or Chick fil A.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying that it's two different Yeah, Tupac,
Speaker 1: d m X, piece of both.
Speaker 2: That's two different. It's two different.
Speaker 3: I feel like generations kind of.
Speaker 1: It's whatever for you, like just whatever criteria you pick.
Speaker 3: It's no. I wouldn't compare.
Speaker 2: UK Nigga still.
Speaker 3: Is universal.
Speaker 1: Let me get up like still like universe just American Jesus,
Speaker 1: you picked then big part that has to be Okay,
Speaker 1: that's o g like in that in that situation, right
Speaker 1: like packer or flipping.
Speaker 3: I don't know that, snoop Orsa.
Speaker 1: I know fucking you know what I mean, but I
Speaker 1: can't packing DMX, even though d MS is the legend
Speaker 1: year as well.
Speaker 3: But that's packed, like you know.
Speaker 1: You the next one too, Slick Ricord Biggie, these questions
Speaker 1: that make said.
Speaker 2: Supposed to the Dominican and the Columbia.
Speaker 3: I would have to say, I need U, k okay, Oh.
Speaker 2: You're on the album, man, we gotta talk about the
Speaker 2: all right album? Yeah? Well really I didn't know that
Speaker 2: Slick with just send me that is custom Wallabeest.
Speaker 3: That's a good album. Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2: West Side Gun or Conway.
Speaker 3: West Side Got that's my Brad Conway is He's too
Speaker 3: cold though, man, Okay, I'll say all.
Speaker 4: Right, this one right here, very controversial. I do not
Speaker 4: I do not know where you're going with this. By
Speaker 4: the way, we don't write these questions Dominican and Columbian
Speaker 4: over there, they sniff cocaine and write.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just the way it happens.
Speaker 2: Drake or Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1: I gotta say Drizzy, Okay, that was the safe answer.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, right hand. No, not even that. I rode
Speaker 3: to Drizzy. Okay, you know Kendrick is gonna buy us.
Speaker 1: But like if I'm jumping in the way the gallery
Speaker 1: in the car my slaph on, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that drizzy, but you get me.
Speaker 3: That's the vibes.
Speaker 4: But you see how Kendrick Lamar was caught at a
Speaker 4: I mean, Lebron James was caught out of Kendrick Lamar
Speaker 4: and Drakes a certain thing. Would you what would you
Speaker 4: think that you could go to Kendrick Lamar and you
Speaker 4: still be cool.
Speaker 3: Car check it out. Yeah, I could go there.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna jump from stage to them like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm a fan of Kendrick saying yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say nah.
Speaker 1: If I said yeah, come me real, kender, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say nah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think our coature needs to stop that because like
Speaker 4: I feel like if I like pustachio ice cream and
Speaker 4: just one and one day I want chocolate, Like why
Speaker 4: why I can't like both? Like why why does our
Speaker 4: coulture make us? Like why do make they make us
Speaker 4: choose between Knaves and Jay like like I like them both,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like I like I like do say and
Speaker 4: I like age s grade Like why wouldn't I be
Speaker 4: able to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's too much music for that or that to pick
Speaker 1: one a all that, Like just think about hip hop.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's so much music right, so much events, so much
Speaker 1: things has happened, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 1: can't just like yeah, I just like I'm just fucking
Speaker 1: with that, Like you know what I'm saying me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hell no, hell no n w A or w tang
Speaker 1: W Like we're tying the go spot. That's the man
Speaker 1: next the Batman team. You know what I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: real Booju or Beanie.
Speaker 3: That's two different which is the Gold hundred. But b
Speaker 3: that's my guy, is the that's the original.
Speaker 5: You are you be honest with serious central seer, skeptic skepto.
Speaker 3: Of course that's og. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Mob deeper m o p.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more deep, more deep.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like they thought more in it
Speaker 1: deep you know what I mean? A piece cold yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: top boy super so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what my doing. Stell and we just drink.
Speaker 3: I'll drink, let's go top Bay.
Speaker 1: I would have to say top because that's the original. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'll say both because top where that's the original. That's
Speaker 1: what that's what's got even like America knowing about London
Speaker 1: as well, super Cell Like me, I'm a nerd. I
Speaker 1: love like Superhero, X, Men, Avengers.
Speaker 3: That's my that's my thing. So you've got like the.
Speaker 1: Streets, like the London streets as well. And it was
Speaker 1: raw slang with superpowers. That's the maddest thing at got
Speaker 1: to But I'll just drink cool yeah, because top Boy,
Speaker 1: it was like wait a minute. We looked at that.
Speaker 1: It was like wait a minute, they're going crazy out there.
Speaker 2: It was like the British wire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought you just had That's what it was
Speaker 1: meant to be originally. Yeah, that's why it always goes
Speaker 1: wrong when American artists come to London. Yeah, they think
Speaker 1: it's nice. That's like the Knives, that's like the kids,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But obviously, and now it's
Speaker 1: social media, so they just make it bigger than it is,
Speaker 1: like you know, yeah, but now it's the goddamn saying
Speaker 1: it's been the same. Yeah, oh yeah, social media.
Speaker 3: We can see this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, okay, vibes Cartel or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Carto, that's my guy, Like Cartoon is the greatest.
Speaker 3: He's wrong.
Speaker 1: I think Carto is the best, like any genre, like
Speaker 1: hip hop forever, damn, let's.
Speaker 2: Make you noise.
Speaker 3: He said that. You think I'm crazy?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't think crazy. I just never
Speaker 2: heard anybody say.
Speaker 3: That it's the best.
Speaker 1: Bro Like, I think the only person who could in
Speaker 1: hip hop who could go see if Carto was on smoke,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I'm gonna go student and smoke this song.
Speaker 1: I don't think no one could chat to him. The
Speaker 1: only person who could probably go head to is probably
Speaker 1: like Eminem song.
Speaker 2: Wow, imagine that track.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen cartol smoke wrappers, dancel artists. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: could smokes anything, like.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, yeah, he's versus like
Speaker 2: he could.
Speaker 3: Go any any style flow the coldest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peckham or Brixton.
Speaker 3: I'm from Peckham. Okay, yea Brickston certified.
Speaker 1: That's brig is like the Bronx Andhams like Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Okay is that that kind of Yeah? I mean and
Speaker 3: then East London West from East East is like reminds
Speaker 3: me of like Harlow and then and then west kind
Speaker 3: of No, East reminds you of Queens. East reminds you
Speaker 3: of Queens because and then West reminds me of Harlem.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. Shava or super Cat, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: tough one. Legends, Supercut, we need both of them. Are drinking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I drink drink Yeah, super Cat used to live a
Speaker 1: left right Well yeah, I might say Shaper though might
Speaker 1: be taking another shop Shap.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't Sho be the o G in that situation?
Speaker 1: No? Really, not really, He's not the same kind of
Speaker 1: time Shap, super the same kind of time like.
Speaker 2: Shamo would be at least a few years and they.
Speaker 3: Even clashed, did no, No, I think they did.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 2: I never heard of a class that they did.
Speaker 3: They did. Yeah, I think, I think.
Speaker 1: I think I'll say Shabo because Shabo lived longer, like
Speaker 1: he was still making bangers right right right, you know
Speaker 1: that was even like when he did he come back
Speaker 1: and beer got big guy he ca joints. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: got saying. So I'll say still supercuts the goat.
Speaker 3: Yeah about.
Speaker 1: Storms is a Canu stone cano for sure, that cano
Speaker 1: is a goat, like you know what I mean? Stones,
Speaker 1: He is cold though, Stones. You can sign up with
Speaker 1: the goats so that he can he can go to
Speaker 1: to toe with the goats, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: B o b or a boogie mm hmm a boogie.
Speaker 2: Estelle or adele.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And still is the family but adel Ale, But that's
Speaker 1: too different. That's totally shipping.
Speaker 5: These guys just wanted to to British people in branch. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they might throw in the Beatles legs.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: There was a coach by two different things. I wouldn't,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: So what so what's the answer, Yeah, okay, uh DJ
Speaker 5: Premiere Pete Rock mhm, it's gotta be Premier.
Speaker 2: Jay Z or Big daddy came.
Speaker 3: I say, big daddy came. That's that's that's the geez.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You know, I mean, okay, Jada kiss ther Nos, Yeah
Speaker 5: I kissed so there. Now we have to change this
Speaker 5: game where if you answer you drinking okay, you know what.
Speaker 1: A lot of obviously a lot of guests that you
Speaker 1: have up here have got relationship.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna want to say for me, I'm clear
Speaker 3: on on the history. You know what I'm saying, history
Speaker 3: like forgot kiss.
Speaker 1: Its still going like the now I just heard them
Speaker 1: a eating that's a mad tea. How many years are
Speaker 1: we talking about? It's ridiculous. Yeah, ninety six. That's my
Speaker 1: bro Rockefeller of rough Riders.
Speaker 3: Ah no, it's not a shot. You know why. I
Speaker 3: know why. Let me tell you this way is here,
Speaker 3: this way is yeah, that's not even no, no, this
Speaker 3: is why this way it is even like even yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to be like even even kissy wouldn't
Speaker 3: be happier. I don't know. This is so that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like my brethren there was all from like Warfrow,
Speaker 1: that's in South London. We're from Peckham, Warfrow, Peckham, but
Speaker 1: all the warthrow man then they used to be Rockefeller, yeah,
Speaker 1: and all.
Speaker 3: The pecker Man.
Speaker 1: It was like rough Rider was like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like d M X peoples and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so then yeah those peoples so like we were. So
Speaker 1: then then then the war started the clash with the
Speaker 1: rock and.
Speaker 3: Rough Riders and that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then obviously, like I think the first one was
Speaker 1: that the it was like the kissing and and fat Joe.
Speaker 1: Is that the kiss and fat Joe sound? No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying like it's kind of like a subliminal and
Speaker 1: man was saying anyway, I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 3: And then obviously there was the kiss and put your
Speaker 3: hands up.
Speaker 1: Then then segu came with the mad thing like that
Speaker 1: was That's what Sea came with, brow that was mad.
Speaker 3: Even that that was so mad.
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to see no one from war
Speaker 1: through until I heard kiss as I was that's like me,
Speaker 1: I'm a music, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: don't want to see none of these men. For them
Speaker 1: to talk about the seagull thing, because I know Seagull
Speaker 1: smoked that like talking about kicking the bull out of
Speaker 1: the park and you know what I mean. Then after
Speaker 1: so I'm waiting for Kiss. Then Kiss came back on
Speaker 1: the disco beat thing and that was cool and that,
Speaker 1: but after you know what I'm saying, after that Seaguel,
Speaker 1: that was you know what I mean. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is all right, Kiss going to bring another one.
Speaker 1: Then Seagull came straight back again straight after with the
Speaker 1: fucking on the special delivery free start when they went
Speaker 1: on radio and that remember the speculations, No, no, there
Speaker 1: weren't that one. Remember the special delivery free style and
Speaker 1: it's just smoking them kiss thee on the holiday remember
Speaker 1: that got So this is two now, I'm like, fucking ship.
Speaker 3: So that Seagull kind of won that, Like who'd you
Speaker 3: say that kissing seagull thing?
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know, I'm a sick a shot. I mean,
Speaker 2: it became more than that. It was stay proper against
Speaker 2: you know the locks.
Speaker 1: No, no, but I'm talking Kiss and Beanie Seagull, right,
Speaker 1: because there was where the headhorn chosen. Obviously, stars when
Speaker 1: stars come in, stars went kind of mad, remember stars
Speaker 1: like kicking fucking doors off, and you know what it was.
Speaker 1: It was a different back but kiss and you know,
Speaker 1: I say, yeah, so yeah it was more than that.
Speaker 3: But them times I could have admit, like kiss that Seagull.
Speaker 2: Took hit me like because your side was rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was rough rider, but I don't know that
Speaker 1: maybe twenty years there, I said, seagull kind of took that.
Speaker 3: I told the mad one to get me. So I'm
Speaker 3: I just wanted to show the homage for like the
Speaker 3: Rock and that, but man's rough riders, like you know.
Speaker 1: Did you hear? I don't know if this is true,
Speaker 1: Beanie Seagull new ship.
Speaker 4: With Ai no with the voice, and she sounds great
Speaker 4: and in that case, Ai is fucking dope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually liked some of the with the with the
Speaker 1: new voice as well. It still sounds cold like I
Speaker 1: thought I was coold, but yeah, bottom lying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, rough Riders, Okay, Damian Molly or Sean Paul give me.
Speaker 1: The life.
Speaker 3: You kind of going? I felt like two different things.
Speaker 1: But I'll say Sean Porter shompaols really do you know
Speaker 1: why I'll say shampoo because like Sean Paul has grinded,
Speaker 1: Like remember I remember when he used to be like
Speaker 1: dotty Cup, remember, yeah, like it was like Luga man
Speaker 1: and and Shompaul could always that proper spit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he could he darts away, he
Speaker 1: could spit, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then obviously he's probably took it the most serious
Speaker 1: and then he's taking it to the crazy levels, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, so Man's got a lot
Speaker 1: of respect for shoomp Pool yet me. But obviously Damian
Speaker 1: Marley's gone. That's that, you know what I'm saying. I'll say,
Speaker 1: for how hard shoomp Pools were, and he's quod spit, I'll.
Speaker 3: Say shooting pool.
Speaker 2: He's got a crazy cattle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a colo.
Speaker 2: So you said Sean Paul, Yeah, I say shoot.
Speaker 1: Boys in the hood, boys in the hood or minister Society.
Speaker 1: I take a shot. Okay, Oh Man cheers h l a,
Speaker 1: oh Miami mm hmmm, I like Miami in her for
Speaker 1: real or Kanye mm hmm.
Speaker 3: That's a tough one. What are you talking about that
Speaker 3: he's gonna.
Speaker 2: Say that whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could take a
Speaker 2: bag of beach just beats.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So that's a weird one. So you only gets weirder,
Speaker 8: I was, I was, Yeah, I'll just take the shot.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know. I don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: what I wanted to know. I was watching the phar
Speaker 1: Real documentary in it and then it was talking about
Speaker 1: when you look made super fucking yeah, we say funking it.
Speaker 3: That's how different.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but he was telling the story cold, but
Speaker 1: you know, the only But I was thinking, like I
Speaker 1: wanted to know, like he told the whole suit, but
Speaker 1: then tell the bit like when it was in the Philippines,
Speaker 1: You're in the mansion, you know, So I was thinking,
Speaker 1: what was how did you think cut that bit?
Speaker 3: Was it not true?
Speaker 1: Like you know, you know what I'm saying already on
Speaker 1: the track that was already I'm actually be honest with you.
Speaker 2: I never paid attention to that part, bro, that's.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But once the beat drop, I was like, that
Speaker 3: was it?
Speaker 2: He said like Noriega, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, all right, that's the first time I heard
Speaker 1: somebody make a beat.
Speaker 3: For me using my name.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't that.
Speaker 4: It was like, once that sound dropping, I said that,
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, I need, I need to
Speaker 4: play with this. And I knew that was a different sound.
Speaker 4: And I know I sound like a genius now, but
Speaker 4: I swear to god, I knew that ship then, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, I was just like all right cool,
Speaker 4: And like I said, I wrote the whole rhyme right
Speaker 4: there in the Kent Hotel and I flew back the
Speaker 4: next day and I went to a studio called Right
Speaker 4: Track Recording Studio on forty eighth Street, and I laid
Speaker 4: the whole ship.
Speaker 1: That's one track. That's one whole track, one take, one take.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't know because well.
Speaker 2: I didn't know how to. I didn't know how to
Speaker 2: punch it. That's what he says.
Speaker 3: That's why I always say it wasn't even I was
Speaker 3: at the time, what what what what? Okay?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 1: What what?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: What? What? What? What?
Speaker 2: I didn't know how to do. All I want to
Speaker 2: do is right wrap And but.
Speaker 1: That is you still kind of I'm still calling still yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That it's just in the future with it.
Speaker 1: Anversity still counted its structured correctly. You know, rella kept
Speaker 1: that you know it was for genius one that yeah,
Speaker 1: he took the ones out if the original hook is
Speaker 1: going to say one on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like I don't even know how you kept
Speaker 2: me on beat.
Speaker 4: Like I've never asked him that question, and I've never
Speaker 4: asked him about.
Speaker 3: The the intro.
Speaker 2: Neither like a gonna lie.
Speaker 1: We just said that just now, like twenty seven years later,
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 3: Id that you never lied. That's because basically I'm just
Speaker 3: never gonna know what.
Speaker 1: Wait, did I never act? I say, it's good that
Speaker 1: you never lied. Yeah, no, yeah, because you know what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know not to take it.
Speaker 1: You're kind to remember that part. Like if we're not
Speaker 1: perform it, I go straight into the wood my mother
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years. That shit doesn't even exist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It starts from yeah and then he goes to Philippines
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 1: But my performance it goes what what what?
Speaker 3: So we don't we take that ship out? Okay? So
Speaker 3: like so you don't even put that in the show?
Speaker 3: In the show kind of fucking me up.
Speaker 1: If I went to the live show and I heard that,
Speaker 1: because I've never seen that, right right right, right right, No,
Speaker 1: But I went to the lift shot and I didn't
Speaker 1: hear you in the Philip because that's.
Speaker 3: The bit where you're that's the bit where you're wking.
Speaker 4: Now it's you know what I'm saying REI when I performing,
Speaker 4: I'm performing near the end of the show, like already
Speaker 4: I want to jump in, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I want me to jump in. That's not fa Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's not fash.
Speaker 1: And it's like as soon as you hit the helicopters,
Speaker 1: your subconsciously you heard the intro in your mind. You
Speaker 1: But those people like like Swiss to this day always
Speaker 1: says to me, yo, you know you never let the
Speaker 1: beat drop from bad being crazy. It's like, no one
Speaker 1: actually knows that that's the first loop, that beat beat.
Speaker 1: It's not there, not the beat. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole sun mastered it that she's still twenty seven
Speaker 1: years like your music a movie, a movie, bro.
Speaker 3: Shot for that.
Speaker 1: Hold on, we'll get right back.
Speaker 5: But the fun fact about the Philippines thing, his DJ
Speaker 5: now is from the Philipps DJ is, but he wasn't
Speaker 5: that year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't meet up to that same exact year.
Speaker 1: So you got to do it where he says the Philippines,
Speaker 1: I've never thought about it.
Speaker 3: I tell you, this is the first time. That's that's important.
Speaker 1: Let's do that, Okay, podcast or radio.
Speaker 3: It's the same, it's the same for me, to be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the same ship.
Speaker 1: Were drinking because it's both Okay, yeah, man, I.
Speaker 3: Mean what's the difference really, what's.
Speaker 1: Long form and one is radio based, one is music based,
Speaker 1: and one is we can do this on radio because
Speaker 1: it's long form, you can't do on radio short conversations
Speaker 1: between radio.
Speaker 3: I guess you know. Yeah, let me get that.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, got you Okay, you ready, don't
Speaker 4: scar face? Oh no, no no no, he said both Okay,
Speaker 4: my bad, and you gotta get this one anyway. I
Speaker 4: just realized what it says, cheers the heavenly socky is nice.
Speaker 1: That drinks nice too, heavenly sky sake. Yeah that And
Speaker 1: I ain't even a sucky guy. I wasn't.
Speaker 3: He turned me out boss kind.
Speaker 4: I kind of listened to what anything said sad period
Speaker 4: like could be like, listen, man, We're gonna walk to
Speaker 4: the top of the mountain and talk to a Chinese
Speaker 4: monk and rub our beads and we must we must
Speaker 4: not have on those socks. And I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 4: let's go Rizz like he's been proving that he's the abbot,
Speaker 4: so he's he told us that this soul.
Speaker 2: Right, let's go Scarface or ice Cube.
Speaker 3: Cute man, that's my guy. Yeah, that's the cue that
Speaker 3: that's the for me, that's the main guy. He was
Speaker 3: one of my favorite scar is a go to Scarface
Speaker 3: is code w A and and everything. I didn't even think.
Speaker 1: You can't even ask me about anyone against them n
Speaker 1: w A. You know what I'm saying, Scarfaces code.
Speaker 2: You know it's crazy.
Speaker 1: And I know I'm a little off subject, but still
Speaker 1: on subject.
Speaker 4: I really kind of realized that, I know we spoke
Speaker 4: about this before that Scarface made the Fix, like like
Speaker 4: that was a classic album made recently, Like that.
Speaker 2: Was in the last ten years, right, No, no, now
Speaker 2: more than ten years. But I mean I was on
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on classic, classic, classic albums of a
Speaker 4: legend that came before me. That I was actually on
Speaker 4: the same label with him. I just thought about that
Speaker 4: the other day, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Okay, last one I got one time London or Kingston, London.
Speaker 3: I'm from London.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to.
Speaker 4: But London is my ends, the last one, last one.
Speaker 4: Loyalty or respect.
Speaker 3: Loyal t Okay, respect, that's the s Yeah, I respect him.
Speaker 1: He's going to be loyal. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I respect that. No, take a shot. I mean cool.
Speaker 4: So now, how the hell and where was you at
Speaker 4: when you get a call and they say, the man Dim,
Speaker 4: the light Skinned God, the six God wants to work
Speaker 4: with you. And did you tell do you hang up
Speaker 4: on these people that ship the podcast?
Speaker 5: You like?
Speaker 1: Of course, and of course he wants to work with me,
Speaker 1: But how did this happen when you get the call?
Speaker 1: If I'm honest, this is honesty. Like I remember I
Speaker 1: was making my album The Landlord, Yes, called the Landlord.
Speaker 1: So I was making this album and then I remember
Speaker 1: I was making the track called whipping that Skirts and
Speaker 1: you get.
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, I got that in my notes.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, And I was and I was saying something
Speaker 1: like missus in the crib, you know, I'm keeping up
Speaker 1: photo and we don't take pictures, you know, I'm keeping
Speaker 1: up personal like you know.
Speaker 3: Like them kind of days.
Speaker 1: I weren't really posting no women or girl friends are
Speaker 1: So that was like for the mandem, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you know, like the girl's like
Speaker 1: what do you post me?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: That that was for us, like keep opening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this part is cold and you know that you
Speaker 1: you can you can see Drake loves women, Like I said,
Speaker 1: that's so called. Drake's going to hit me up personally
Speaker 1: about that one. Then I dropped Landlord and then like
Speaker 1: it started ringing off and then then Drake d m me,
Speaker 1: you haven't you haven't met I ain't even met Hi
Speaker 1: or not, and then he d m me said Yo,
Speaker 1: that Landlord things mud you get me like and then yeah,
Speaker 1: then we just said yeah, man, I got a banger still,
Speaker 1: like I wanted to send it over, like, what do
Speaker 1: you reckon? I could this is you saying he's saying
Speaker 1: that to me, saying that to you, He's saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got this, I got this, I got this tune.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to send it over, will you reckon?
Speaker 3: Can I send it?
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, yeah, where I was I was,
Speaker 1: I was just in some car parties. There's a restaurant
Speaker 1: there called Harvester in London, so I was in a
Speaker 1: Harvester car park just waiting for food. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: I just see that DM like and I was like
Speaker 1: Trizzy that Yeah, these times that Dizzy weren't really like.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm tying? You know, when it was
Speaker 3: that mysterious, that kind of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me, like, did you have to look back and
Speaker 1: make sure the blue check was there one hundred percent?
Speaker 3: I was like I looked at that few Can I
Speaker 3: send you these times?
Speaker 1: Like you're not hearing You've heard every Drizzy tune?
Speaker 3: There is the hair in it.
Speaker 1: You know, there weren't no leaks, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it was this was that an exclusive Drizzy in
Speaker 1: my phone? You know what I'm saying. At that time,
Speaker 1: I was a math thing, but yeah, that's crazy and
Speaker 1: they were both his records. Yeah, so then I've done
Speaker 1: that first one, the no Long Talked one, and then
Speaker 1: then he hit me about the He sent me km T.
Speaker 3: It was Christmas t yeah, and it was like yeah
Speaker 3: what he said?
Speaker 2: What to or more life?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he sent me k m T.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said famous Christmas said it said the rest
Speaker 1: even on Christmas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's from Christmas and yah only don't celebrate Christmas
Speaker 3: in London. Celebrate we know, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving? O't my bad like your life, that's our independence
Speaker 1: from us. Last year it was my first fourth of
Speaker 1: July here. Yeah, yeah, that was a vibe. Still my
Speaker 1: son was out here, and you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So do you do? Do you are?
Speaker 2: You're making a new album now?
Speaker 3: Just making bangs.
Speaker 1: I'm just making veangals, laughing them out like is Dick?
Speaker 1: Can we project that Drizzy might be on your new ship?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I just cook like okay, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I got bad.
Speaker 1: I've always got sign okay from somewhere like okay, but
Speaker 1: then there's me, you know what I mean. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me ask you. God comes down right now, Giggs.
Speaker 4: You get to pick one producer and one artist, and
Speaker 4: this record is gonna save humanity.
Speaker 2: It's gonna stop World War three.
Speaker 3: It looks like we had it towards there.
Speaker 1: Who are you picking what artists and what producer?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: I could do you one, but probably need to.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you if you take a shot, you two.
Speaker 3: Now, I'll just have not because it's the same thinger
Speaker 3: in it. That's easy. Just it would be Dre okay,
Speaker 3: and I'll just bring Hove in to right the US.
Speaker 1: Okay. You know what I'm saying, doctor Dre. And yeah,
Speaker 1: d you said d you said Drake makes the beat
Speaker 1: and whole writes the verse for for Dre. Okay, your weight.
Speaker 2: You want to that was.
Speaker 1: That's because Drake gets to to be on the production
Speaker 1: and he gets to be the feature.
Speaker 3: Oh I need that's the trick.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 2: That's what he said, I need to do.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was true, and that's the go. That's the
Speaker 3: biggest Dre.
Speaker 2: He's a big n w A fan.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's the biggest. No, nah no, but I do
Speaker 4: see the correlation of it. That's a big w A.
Speaker 4: I'm a bigger the n w A fan. But I
Speaker 4: think he got me. Yeah, make it out of here.
Speaker 2: You're not a bigger w A fan. I told you
Speaker 2: to have me scared.
Speaker 1: I told you.
Speaker 3: That's that question that hell take a shot, So get
Speaker 3: up to No.
Speaker 2: But let's let's go.
Speaker 5: Actually, let's rewind a little bit because I feel like
Speaker 5: we skipped over a lot and we ain't going back.
Speaker 2: To like early your career because you.
Speaker 5: Started rhyming a little bit later, right or making make
Speaker 5: or actually making records later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you guys got locked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I started music like yeah when it's
Speaker 1: when things started popping out at twenty eight, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so, yeah, it's late, but you was,
Speaker 3: that's what you were in already. I think that's yeah.
Speaker 3: I went, I went to jail when I.
Speaker 2: Was twenty one, but you got already started making music.
Speaker 3: I was flooting with it, you know, flooding means yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's another.
Speaker 4: It was messing with hope that he reminds you of us,
Speaker 4: because I believe he got on at that age too.
Speaker 4: People consider that a lot of age, like twenty seven
Speaker 4: and twenty eight, So I think that's one of the
Speaker 4: reasons too.
Speaker 1: Right, because then then you've seen like well it depends
Speaker 1: how your life set, but then you've seen like in
Speaker 1: the in the hood anyway you're going to see have
Speaker 1: seen the most by fucking twenty eight, bro, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, going to see it? Oh right, So
Speaker 1: by then you're in music like it's just going to
Speaker 1: be hard to be a superstar.
Speaker 3: Then did you think what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Did you do think it was something that legitimately you
Speaker 2: could do?
Speaker 3: Then yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah of course, because I did it,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like it was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is what I want to do.
Speaker 2: Because you started popping when you were still inside. No no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it wasn't starting to come out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was music out, but because you went in twice,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. When I went in the second time, I
Speaker 1: was popping. Okay, yeah yeah yeah I was. I was
Speaker 1: mainstream then, right, you know what I'm saying, Like I was,
Speaker 1: I was geeks, you know what I mean? But yeah,
Speaker 1: the first time when I went in, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just like like starting to make music and that. But
Speaker 1: even before that, I used to d J, right, I
Speaker 1: used to DJ dancell you get me and that Because
Speaker 1: there's different definitions of DJ.
Speaker 3: DJ, like real dj.
Speaker 2: DJ is there in Jamaica. J is the chatting they
Speaker 2: rap ryan Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, fair fair play fair okay yeah
Speaker 3: yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: DJ like scratch mix but that was dancing and hip
Speaker 1: hop to be honest, but it was more dancing. But
Speaker 1: I used to like mixed hip hop as ll you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because that was that's what there
Speaker 1: was then in it like it was it was hip
Speaker 1: hop and it was well then we used to call it.
Speaker 3: Raga what you call dancel. Yeah in London, raga, raga muffin.
Speaker 2: I mean we would say raga button never heard as
Speaker 2: the name for dance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, yeah, well you listen to raga.
Speaker 2: Yeah interesting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and then fast forward girls like we'll
Speaker 1: say Bashman. You know what I'm saying. Like when you
Speaker 1: fast forward to like I don't know, like the two
Speaker 1: thousands or something, they say, oh, you listened to Bashman.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: But then I saw some interview and some girl was
Speaker 1: from London name z Ezy. She was interviewing Beanie Man
Speaker 1: and she would say, yeah, so Bashman, is that what's
Speaker 1: that sounds? Yeah, we don't. We don't call that that thought, like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So now Man says it's
Speaker 1: correct me alight.
Speaker 2: So so then your second you go in for the
Speaker 2: second time, but you.
Speaker 1: Already gets for a hammer Yeah, yeah, first strap, So
Speaker 1: now your gigs?
Speaker 3: What the second time? Now? Yeah, I've got like record
Speaker 3: label had you at that time then still banned from tour,
Speaker 3: but you but your music is going up and there popping.
Speaker 1: You can't those shows nothing couldn't come to America, was
Speaker 1: banned from radio, TV all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what was the second time for strapped again?
Speaker 4: But I'm taking a shot for it.
Speaker 2: Leading up to you.
Speaker 5: Being now gigs before the second time, who's the people that, like,
Speaker 5: is anybody inspiring you?
Speaker 2: Like, what's the scene around.
Speaker 3: At that time? And them times it was.
Speaker 2: And I'm asking this because we're ignorant of the scene.
Speaker 3: Talking about what's the scene in the U K For you?
Speaker 2: Inspire you specifically?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Oh, inspire me from America
Speaker 1: or UK whatever is inspiring you at the time. So
Speaker 1: them times, yeah, them times it's like me and Skepta
Speaker 1: and that's when, No, that's a bit before storms, and
Speaker 1: it was like that's when like because remember first I said,
Speaker 1: it was just like it was just me from the
Speaker 1: streets kind of bring up some gangster ship. But like
Speaker 1: just before I went, that's when the streets started getting signed. Now,
Speaker 1: so now that the hood niggas are coming into the mainstream,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there was like loads
Speaker 1: of rappers like Becky Jay, Spades, Benny Banks, Joe, there
Speaker 1: was there was mad niggas are coming in like like
Speaker 1: there's money in this music too. That's when it was
Speaker 1: that time. Everyone's coming now and they wrapped get just
Speaker 1: to do it. They correct it was right, No, it
Speaker 1: was good. There was a lot of talent, you know,
Speaker 1: but there was still niggas on the streets. You know
Speaker 1: how that goes, Like a lot of men didn't make it. God,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like they did, they probably did,
Speaker 1: lasted like ten years or something, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and then hip hop two years.
Speaker 3: You know, it goes to the streets. Man everyone, Yeah, everyone.
Speaker 1: Thinks they're superstars straight, you know, it goes man niggas. Yeah, me, Like,
Speaker 1: some man don't really care about music like that. They
Speaker 1: just care about the fame, so that ruins their career.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I know, disrespect to anyone,
Speaker 1: but you're not focused on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So like but that time, that's when the streets
Speaker 3: started coming through, now you know what I mean. And
Speaker 3: then I went to jail.
Speaker 5: You get me because I heard you saying in an
Speaker 5: interview that people getting signed like that actually calmed the
Speaker 5: streets down.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. The streets is way like.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and five to no, I'll say two thousand
Speaker 1: and yeah, five to ten. The streets was mad. So
Speaker 1: in that sense, hip hop saved one hundred percent a
Speaker 1: lot of people.
Speaker 3: That's what from you. You guys, we watched you lock
Speaker 3: and like because you love from the streets.
Speaker 1: I was watching you, was watching like no limit For
Speaker 1: me personally, that's like master and that was like master
Speaker 1: P was the ones who made me No limit. MASTERP
Speaker 1: that's who made me actually think I need.
Speaker 3: To do this music, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like blueprint. Yeah, they just reminded.
Speaker 2: They just reminded me of like you being independent was
Speaker 2: that major part.
Speaker 1: It was more like there was just like some crazy
Speaker 1: savage niggas and that was just the mandom at that time.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's why then we called ourselves Spare No One.
Speaker 1: That's s M one, That's what's s N one. So
Speaker 1: like that was off master P, No Limit. It was like,
Speaker 1: yeah we're savage spare no One. No one's getting spared
Speaker 1: like niggas up, like you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that was when we started, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that was more man's influence.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it real.
Speaker 4: Do London people look at Americans and be like mind
Speaker 4: them don't know how to dress because you're motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Put on scoffs. You got the pepper peel jackets like
Speaker 1: you you know, you know you know that we know
Speaker 1: y'all got style in London, you got you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, do y'all look.
Speaker 4: At keep it real, keep it real. Do y'all sometimes
Speaker 4: look at Americans and be like ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think that. I think I
Speaker 1: think that just depends on the person. It's the person, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's the person. You know what I'm saying, Like, like
Speaker 1: you got like mine in London and contrasts so man
Speaker 1: in London, you can and you look.
Speaker 4: Because like a person in Harlem will they always claim
Speaker 4: another Harlem person But yeah, because we from Hall and
Speaker 4: that's the way how we do it.
Speaker 3: Personal queens will say that person.
Speaker 1: From That's why I said, like Harlem, you not say
Speaker 1: Harlem is a fly niggas well then I don't know
Speaker 1: back then you don't say the Harlem. That's why Harlem
Speaker 1: reminds me of like West London because them man are
Speaker 1: like like but they're still but they're still gangsters even
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It just it just he's
Speaker 1: from East Okay, he's from East in my mind, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I like the way you're not dressed look like even
Speaker 1: like now, most of the stuff I wear is from
Speaker 1: New York. Okay, okay, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: most of the like the stacks, so like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, even like here, it's the first place
Speaker 1: I'll see man wearing shorts and a shirt like like
Speaker 1: but noting man wearing shorts and socks.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you know, down to the.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Now, in my head, I think, how's that gonna work?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like maybe like White in
Speaker 1: London might do that. I told him that's like white,
Speaker 1: it's my dress about Nigga Mande dressing like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But then I come out hand I think, I think,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's kind of works, you get me?
Speaker 1: So a lot of this I would take style from
Speaker 1: here as well, right, you know, so I couldn't even
Speaker 1: say that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And to be honest, like.
Speaker 1: We've we've copied a lot of you lot star like
Speaker 1: in it from remember hip hop, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: nineties or something, baggy jeans and that that's why London
Speaker 1: would be wearing baggy jeans, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then I think after a while London was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're doing our own thing. That's when
Speaker 1: we were straight jeans. And then you say, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been the skinny jeans. I didn't say. I won't say
Speaker 1: we invented it. I won't say we invented it.
Speaker 2: Straight and skinny and two different things.
Speaker 3: That's that's what that's like. Yeah, that's yeah, that's not.
Speaker 2: Something.
Speaker 1: But then we'll be like, yeah, straight jeans like a
Speaker 1: clean jumper, us jump as a swell like a clean jumper.
Speaker 3: Sure that would be mad. And then we're like, this
Speaker 3: is London, you know what.
Speaker 1: And then now it's like everyone's like American man, We're
Speaker 1: just like UK and vice versa.
Speaker 4: We gotta get we gotta get this one out out
Speaker 4: the way. Central scene defended a lot of New York people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the tracksuits, the clean Nike tech.
Speaker 1: Hold on, we didn't even know you had Nike out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, that's cool.
Speaker 5: That's cool.
Speaker 3: But that's the same for us. Okay, so that's that's
Speaker 3: the same for us, Like Mama's even when I come here.
Speaker 1: Because you remember, naking text is a special tepe.
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, I'm answer.
Speaker 1: I can answer you like even so even for me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I was like, remember I'm fanned for ten years, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying, I don't know what's going You
Speaker 1: get me. So then I've come out here and then
Speaker 1: the man them were wearing Nike.
Speaker 3: Text like you get me.
Speaker 1: And remember this is after COVID, so everyone's masked up
Speaker 1: now as well. Nike text and a mosque.
Speaker 3: You get me. That's what I'm coming and seeing in
Speaker 3: New York. You get me.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, ro this is like the ends, like
Speaker 1: you know, then you get me? So even for me,
Speaker 1: I thought, right, this is how you look dressed. But
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna jump and say we started that because
Speaker 1: I don't know you know, and it's nick remember next
Speaker 1: worldwide that's everywhere. You know what I'm saying, like you
Speaker 1: get me? So but what like I think it's more
Speaker 1: the Internet, Yeah, you know the one. The Internet is
Speaker 1: like it just like makes things worse than it is.
Speaker 1: This is like that's a kid, he's like a couple
Speaker 1: of years older than my son.
Speaker 3: How the fun is he going to know? You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, that's the fact.
Speaker 1: How the it so like you got like grown men,
Speaker 1: like even a couple of my American regidents who are older.
Speaker 1: What's this?
Speaker 3: I'm like, are you calling me about this? That's a kid?
Speaker 3: Like say like Main may no, that's my bread. He
Speaker 3: knows my son. Yeah, if my son said that, Maine
Speaker 3: is not going to call me about that. He's not
Speaker 3: going to call what's mill say? He's going to be like,
Speaker 3: he's a kid, what's he going to know?
Speaker 1: Because of the Internet Central seed is big, he must
Speaker 1: know what happens in London and America, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like when really he just didn't know. It's
Speaker 1: just like is big Now he got a little like, well,
Speaker 1: ignorant is the word, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was ignorant to that, and he said something on camera,
Speaker 1: you know, we we've all done it, but really, what
Speaker 1: the is he going to know? He's a little kid, bro.
Speaker 1: And then after he said and then after he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you did have like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because I mean you could go back to old NAS video.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can see it wasn't called Nike back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was a special version.
Speaker 1: Of the like yeah, yeah, of course, of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's it. Yeah, man, that's yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: with a lot of the stuff similar when I come
Speaker 1: over now everything is just the same ship like just
Speaker 1: in different ways and the cultures. It's a tiny bit
Speaker 1: because remember, like I said, you got Dominicans, Porto Ricans, Belizeans.
Speaker 1: Now we got Jamaicans. Try right, columb you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like even a lot of them things
Speaker 1: will be sprinkled into U Lot's culture as well, and
Speaker 1: then it's American culture, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff we don't know about vice versa, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I just wouldn't jump
Speaker 1: up and say we done this for so we cause
Speaker 1: we don't know you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So let me let me ask you. There's two more
Speaker 4: rule more questions over that. Now this is a this
Speaker 4: is something that I mean Richard Millie and I'm getting
Speaker 4: my band switched, so I askedly. So the guy's like, hey,
Speaker 4: why are you doing this? I'm like, hey, I'm going
Speaker 4: to London, and he'said, do not whar you're watching London?
Speaker 4: Now For some reason, I had searched that and there's
Speaker 4: literally videos of people coming up to people no I'm
Speaker 4: talking about. I guess they were chopping their hands on.
Speaker 4: I guess they didn't want to ask you.
Speaker 3: I'm yet to see this video. Well you know what
Speaker 3: they coming up to people? Yeah, buteah know.
Speaker 2: You know what I said, that the actual chop hands off.
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. They come, they could have
Speaker 3: said case Okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if I was watching a I or
Speaker 2: if this Now.
Speaker 1: I followed this watch dealer. I followed this watch dealer
Speaker 1: as a Chinese guy, and he walks around London all
Speaker 1: the time with watching. He has no problem, so that
Speaker 1: said Bud. But yeah, him, man, it's like his little
Speaker 1: his little watch crew.
Speaker 4: I mean, he has people following around with an umbrella,
Speaker 4: so obviously the guy must have a ham on them,
Speaker 4: I'm guessing. But but is that a real problem in London,
Speaker 4: like with the watch Coulture.
Speaker 3: Like, let's that the same thing as here?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you know what I'm saying. If you're like
Speaker 1: out of a Diamond district. Yeah, and you know I
Speaker 1: don't know who you are, it could happen. Even if
Speaker 1: I know who you are, it could happen. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's the same ship, like but them kind
Speaker 1: of clips or more in. What you're saying is more
Speaker 1: in like central area. Okay, so that's like Times Square
Speaker 1: or something like Times Square. That's like central Okay, west
Speaker 1: End we call it. Yeah, that's like where the tourists
Speaker 1: are at. Okay.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like people are robbing tourists, like there's no comebacks,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like the chopping of the hand I heard, I'm just chopping.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 3: You know what I would love I would love to
Speaker 3: make England sound wicked, like I said, Yeah, I love
Speaker 3: to say that, but I ain't seen it. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: with that catching I believe it behind and there's booths
Speaker 3: and that that was the caption.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why, like I blie catch the chopped
Speaker 1: off for yeah, something like that. You know the same,
Speaker 1: it's exact same here man a jumping out, jumping off
Speaker 1: of moped's hair with machines the swing that watch. Same,
Speaker 1: it's exact same ship that Everything that happens here happens
Speaker 1: there and all over the world.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, gangsters all over.
Speaker 1: The world, everywhere has got anywhere, there's poverty, there's gangsters
Speaker 1: or there's no I wouldn't even say gangster. I'd say
Speaker 1: people who are desperate. Do you understand? So anywhere that is,
Speaker 1: it's going to be jumpy, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I was going to take a shot to that, but
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe not Yeah, but no, because those
Speaker 1: are the people who show us loved I saw people.
Speaker 2: Okay, look, so how did you hook up with twenty
Speaker 2: one Savage?
Speaker 3: Savage?
Speaker 1: Because he for the UK too, it's from UK. I
Speaker 1: think I just I think I just hit Savage and DM.
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, Wow, the Savage is proper. That's that's
Speaker 1: a smart nigga.
Speaker 3: Bro. Let me even talk his business.
Speaker 1: But yeah, about Savage, he's he's still like he like
Speaker 1: even when I talked to Savage, he will shocked me,
Speaker 1: like because he is just how he knows the ends.
Speaker 1: He knows like names of streets you know, in detail
Speaker 1: in London, like he knows what's going on, who's who?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, how far removed
Speaker 1: is he from from?
Speaker 3: He's not far removed.
Speaker 2: He's connected in Atlanta. How can you be connected in both?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like like if you're outside looking in
Speaker 1: remember like that we've studied all of you lot. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, remember you on the on
Speaker 1: our screens our whole life, like man like nor and that.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, like on our screen growing up.
Speaker 1: That's studying, right right, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you come out here, now, he's good kid, come out
Speaker 1: here and it's cool. It's America, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, Like, and he's probably cool.
Speaker 1: He's from London, you know, even though people he said,
Speaker 1: he was saying people he said disrespect his accent and.
Speaker 3: There was always fighting.
Speaker 1: But so he's going to like he's gonna I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he's going to have the knowledge of both worlds, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, So, so for him
Speaker 1: to get to the top, Like me personally, I'm not
Speaker 1: really surprised because I see a lot of London niggas
Speaker 1: come out here, they get to the top. Canadian niggas
Speaker 1: they get Americans go to London, they get to the top.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I see American,
Speaker 3: like I see Maine come to London.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one time I remember was that with Maine and
Speaker 1: and he's saying, yeah, we're going to this after party.
Speaker 1: We're in London. Yeah, it's like four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: But you know New York niggas, you know, don't sleep
Speaker 1: like you man now all night. So I'm saying, man,
Speaker 1: we're not finding no after party in London at four am,
Speaker 1: bro because and we're in central this is the city. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, this ain't happening. But I thought, let me
Speaker 1: follow him and see where he's going on. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: then we're walking in the middle of Leicester Square. Now
Speaker 1: I'm saying one hundred percent, no, nothing's happening tonight.
Speaker 3: This is Leicester Square, this is the top flay me.
Speaker 1: Then we pull up, pull up to some spot and
Speaker 1: mean it's like yeah, yeah these times there's like fifty
Speaker 1: of us as well, like like fifty man girls.
Speaker 3: Everything.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, this ain't happening. Next thing, we're walking in
Speaker 1: and it's a big settings.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Like, but that's what I'm saying, Like like American that
Speaker 1: the man then always do it the biggest always, That's
Speaker 1: what I noticed. Like, anyway you have a great time,
Speaker 1: you do it the biggest way. You know, the biggest guy.
Speaker 1: You got the big pattern and means settings like motion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me here, you know, I got the biggest settings like
Speaker 1: and Maine just come and showed me sign in my
Speaker 1: own sea, Like you know what I'm saying. But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying about when we come over here or
Speaker 1: like do you know what I mean? Like we're outside
Speaker 1: looking in and yeah that's twenty one savage bro.
Speaker 3: Now it's the biggest rapper in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I used to complain about like the South and not
Speaker 4: get in love in New York, And I believe complain.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what you now.
Speaker 3: You like didn't show the South no love. I remember, listen, listen,
Speaker 3: let me tell you how I know. No, no, let
Speaker 3: me tell you no, no wait wait, let me tell
Speaker 3: you how I know. Yeah, because I remember I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because my granddad he used to live in Brownsville.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so will in brook Yeah we have a brother here,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, and I'm Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: So I talk about brows Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in browns in Brooklyn, Yeah, with my
Speaker 1: with my granddad's yeah and them time.
Speaker 3: I used to listen to Oh No Limit.
Speaker 1: I had every single No Limited album the time them
Speaker 1: albums are twenty pounds, that's like fucking thirty dollars twenty pound.
Speaker 1: Used to buy every single No Limit album. Yeah me, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm on the block and I used to want
Speaker 1: to play my Silk the Charka and my mat and
Speaker 1: all that, and I put this on your ear true
Speaker 1: or that I'll put that ship. This is hard. And
Speaker 1: then the man on the block, I turned that ship off, man.
Speaker 1: And then they were saying, play your Rule, let's page
Speaker 1: your Rules first album, and I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to listen to this, man, listen to fucking no lip
Speaker 1: by them times.
Speaker 3: They was not hearing it. And then about a year
Speaker 3: later that's when they started playing Bling Bling. I remember
Speaker 3: Bling Bling was into you and there was he was
Speaker 3: saying to me, would you know about that blame? And
Speaker 3: I said, you might didn't want to listen to this.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I got vindicated
Speaker 5: all the way over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah I saw that firsthand. Okay, outcast is different. That's
Speaker 1: the artcasting more commercial. And I'm talking like yeah yeah cool,
Speaker 1: like you're talking like like like me and your cousin
Speaker 1: and like before that, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But
Speaker 1: I didn't see.
Speaker 2: Remember, it's different fro him up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like not but we used to fuk with Outcastle,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I feel like outcasts a bit more
Speaker 1: commercial though. I know you're saying underground and that, but
Speaker 1: it's not like no limit, no limit, no, you know
Speaker 1: you get me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I want to what was your point that
Speaker 5: you're gonna make though about the if complains no.
Speaker 4: Because I was trying to say the hook that it's
Speaker 4: now kind of even in itself out the love everywhere
Speaker 4: like me personally. I don't know if y'all know, but
Speaker 4: I was like the first famous guy to shout out
Speaker 4: London in a mean way. Westwood I said I played
Speaker 4: the best hood. I said the best hood with Tim Westwood.
Speaker 4: That was crazy if you knew that this is one
Speaker 4: of the number one records.
Speaker 1: I played the best hood. O T with Tim Westwood
Speaker 1: used to be on section.
Speaker 2: Now my section is good. People didn't even know I
Speaker 2: shout out the mandendamn man.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was a figure in London.
Speaker 1: That was Tim Westwood. Tim Westwood represented London. He was
Speaker 1: the master place all that time, even them times. Westwood
Speaker 1: used to play that bit on the radio. This is
Speaker 1: radio what you play that part over and over? Amazing,
Speaker 1: this is Radio one. They do like this is like
Speaker 1: like they play that stuff in like stores in London.
Speaker 1: We put in shops. They played that in the shop
Speaker 1: in London. Yeah, like where like old people they don't
Speaker 1: listen to hip hop basically, and that's Radio One, that's
Speaker 1: what plays in there.
Speaker 3: And he's like.
Speaker 1: For about five ten minutes that one go to be honest,
Speaker 1: I went to London. I fell in love with London,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, yo, I have to have
Speaker 1: to do something to come back. And I knew that
Speaker 1: I if I shoutowed it out and then and for years.
Speaker 3: People don't know you know London.
Speaker 1: Yes, tell the story when you're and you said you
Speaker 1: had the madness with the bouncers, know what you Because
Speaker 1: it's involved a couple couple of people that maybe not
Speaker 1: there's no way to say it differently publicly.
Speaker 3: Trust me.
Speaker 1: I tried.
Speaker 3: It didn't work.
Speaker 1: I got I've already said that. Okay, you get which
Speaker 1: said you said it was in London. Yeah, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: the madness is and bounces and he could save him, yes,
Speaker 1: And they didn't save him.
Speaker 3: But that's bounces.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's not that's not even a bad story.
Speaker 1: That's not like if you saw a bunch of street
Speaker 1: niggas and say, that's what's everyone has madness bouncing. They
Speaker 1: put him in a full something else and bro, I
Speaker 1: ain't got I've never really seen a girl man in
Speaker 1: the full Nelson.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was shocked. I didn't know where
Speaker 3: was Where was you in London? Though I don't remember
Speaker 3: with water in London.
Speaker 2: I just know it was us Big Daddy came.
Speaker 4: It was a rocket for the event, like it was
Speaker 4: like something that I didn't I think this was going
Speaker 4: to happen.
Speaker 1: And yeah, but I love London. But that's that's the
Speaker 1: later year, you know. But I'm saying, yeah, yeah, for
Speaker 1: London man to hear Noriega was in London and had
Speaker 1: the Manus bounces. Yes, those are the stories.
Speaker 3: That's not knows London.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the stuff. Well, you got to realize that
Speaker 1: later's tough people.
Speaker 3: Care about that.
Speaker 4: That's that's in the middle of two thousands, in the
Speaker 4: middle of you know, the late two thousands and tens.
Speaker 2: But you got to be skipping over a whole other part.
Speaker 4: What happened was Kapona Noriega, which was the album that
Speaker 4: came out before and r E was so big to
Speaker 4: this day, Comona Noriega, it's bigger than nor in London.
Speaker 4: Like that's a big yeah, that's that's bigger than Nori
Speaker 4: in London. And so nor coming out there. That's the
Speaker 4: reason why I said Tom Westwood was because because I'm like,
Speaker 4: I want to come go back out there, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? And Noriega so much love, but so
Speaker 4: I want to take the time.
Speaker 3: About being in the streets. Maybe in the streets because
Speaker 3: that No album was big, big.
Speaker 1: You know what. Let me describe that a little better.
Speaker 3: It was big first.
Speaker 4: Yeah and foundation and then you know what I'm not
Speaker 4: But I'm not going to take away from that comments
Speaker 4: them under that underground audience like the mop. Like the
Speaker 4: best thing about London is I could get two shows.
Speaker 1: I can do a component Origga show early and I
Speaker 1: could do a Norrie show at night.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And that's one million percent.
Speaker 4: But I want to take a time because I haven't
Speaker 4: said this. I really understood UK hip hop. I understood
Speaker 4: London scene. And that's the reason why I shouted it
Speaker 4: out early and yes, you guys are welcome.
Speaker 2: We gotta do a live dream Champions and London for sure,
Speaker 2: for sure, I will tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: We got to be on time.
Speaker 4: We got to be on time. One time we came late.
Speaker 4: They do not like that ship like that ship yo.
Speaker 4: So okay, now we got Davis. Didn't you make a
Speaker 4: record with Davies? How did that happen?
Speaker 1: And Davies that's my bridge still Like one time he
Speaker 1: come London and he come to the studio and I remember, I.
Speaker 3: Can't lie that day. I was a great host. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to lie to you. Like even the East
Speaker 3: doesn't know. He's going to know.
Speaker 1: Now, Like that day, I was having an argument with
Speaker 1: one thing like that I used to beat then. So
Speaker 1: I was trying to get back to the ting. But
Speaker 1: Davis is in London. This is Davis. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you're beefing with a ting like, you can't think
Speaker 1: about nothing else the ting, tinging.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I flew down to the studio linked East and
Speaker 1: I had the chef in the studio and all the
Speaker 1: chef caught in some yard food and I said, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: this is your house, man, you get me, do your thing.
Speaker 1: I left all the soldiers there and this is you.
Speaker 3: You get me. Then I went back to the ting,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, so obviously that's me and East link from then
Speaker 1: you get me right then obviously when I got my visa,
Speaker 1: then I've come back head and I linked with East
Speaker 1: and that's the mandam you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's cold as well. Obviously, man's a big fun
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like this is cold.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I just met with Dave easton bottle Yeah, me and
Speaker 1: he's got a couple of trucks, so you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But obviously that one day and made the album.
Speaker 1: You know you think that, like everybody has a podcast
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Have you been thinking about doing a podcast.
Speaker 4: I'm sure somebody came up to you and it was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: it's not for me, man, really, you like the first
Speaker 4: rapper that said that, let me make.
Speaker 3: Some everybody else so greedy.
Speaker 2: It's learning to get a little crazy. The Frog the podcast.
Speaker 1: That's why I like And I don't even go on
Speaker 1: a lot of podcasts, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of them are just negative. Man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you you've had success, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We're giving people they flower
Speaker 1: a little man just going because they still want to rap. Really,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You get me, but like
Speaker 1: it's not really yet me. So they're just like negative.
Speaker 1: I'm not really into it, you know, and it's grown
Speaker 1: men like legends like being negative. But when you come,
Speaker 1: when you watch drink Champs, you laugh.
Speaker 2: To celebrate stuff.
Speaker 3: You click for rumors, this one you say, yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, let me hear like man's watching like a three
Speaker 1: four hour cartel or something or fucking the other day
Speaker 1: I watched Boodo, you know what I'm saying, or like
Speaker 1: or like five or so you get me, like, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the other ones so I'm not really.
Speaker 4: That was even the beauty about us doing business. Bleak
Speaker 4: right now, Bleak is keeping that tradition too. He has
Speaker 4: no controversy, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: because he just started one. We got a whole network.
Speaker 3: You don't got your own.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, and we're doing it right.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Everyone that's down with us kind of owns their own material,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like we don't want to like,
Speaker 4: we don't want to be those guys that claim this. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we want to help launch and yeah yeah, yeah, right now,
Speaker 4: that's dope. But have anybody ever approached you to do
Speaker 4: a podcast? Yeah that's not Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 4: But all right, so you I asked you earlier, but
Speaker 4: I want to reiterate it so the fans can know.
Speaker 4: So you were saying that we were making singles, we're not.
Speaker 4: We're not focused on making an album or EP right now. No,
Speaker 4: i't even make ap okay, so no EPs for me. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's small. Let me not, let me not disrespect, right,
Speaker 4: it's not for me. But right now, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 4: drumping music because.
Speaker 1: It's it's the game is kind of at a time
Speaker 1: where everyone's kind of scared, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: You're right, everyone's just scared to drop music. Remember before
Speaker 1: man was just lacing Bangersam, look who he's talking about
Speaker 1: like rough Riders, and you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: even away from that, there're still a lacing banger. You're
Speaker 1: still catch another ten to fifteen Kisses Off, fifteen Going Right,
Speaker 1: and the a T more fucking team r lest.
Speaker 3: Or you know what I'm saying, Like you get me.
Speaker 1: But now it's just like everyone's just focused on Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got to get the numbers, and it's just not
Speaker 1: about music, isn't it. So now I'm just enjoying music
Speaker 1: and just lacing bangers like yummy and that's what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 5: Well let's go actually go back to the to the
Speaker 5: slick Rick joint. How did that come about? Because it's
Speaker 5: a good album, yeah, you know project and.
Speaker 2: Then you even getting that call?
Speaker 1: How did that happen?
Speaker 3: Because it so slick He's on Idris's album, I'm labeling it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah it's and well he produced it for sure,
Speaker 1: what's it's just seven Wallace seven Company, now that's his label.
Speaker 1: And then Nars Massive. I think I think it's a joint.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I feel like it is. I'm not sure, but yeah, so.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't quote me.
Speaker 1: I was just watching the interview, but I saw like
Speaker 1: Slicky was saying, like, yeah, I had to get that
Speaker 1: nas from hip hop, I mean from New York and
Speaker 1: gigs from London. It's like, oh geez, you get me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it just his team rents obviously it just
Speaker 1: is the mandam you know what I mean. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: reached out to man it says slip Rick, and then
Speaker 1: they sent it to me. And Man's got a fresh
Speaker 1: slit rick. Remember in the beginning. Yeah, all this stuff starts.
Speaker 3: On your phone.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying That man sent me the
Speaker 1: slit Rick Like same thing that Drake, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, fucking the.
Speaker 3: Whole thing.
Speaker 4: Like I'm taking a shot for this. You get me,
Speaker 4: you got shut come on the way you describe.
Speaker 2: Sorry, keep going here, going strutting your phone?
Speaker 3: Does that seem like it's not like Guru hit me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know one, but listen showed me the
Speaker 1: whole you know what I'm saying, Like, this is little
Speaker 1: stuff I'm a fan of, Like even like when you
Speaker 1: say young girl, like rocker, rock girl, yeah, younger, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Heard you was in Disney World.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was in Disney you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: so like, yes, I remember, I'm a fan.
Speaker 3: I grew up.
Speaker 1: You can see I'm a fan now, like of the
Speaker 1: whole thing. You get me, like even like slip Rick,
Speaker 1: like manuged to listen to Lardie Darli and my walkman
Speaker 1: walking to with Slick Wick. You got to slip Reckcord.
Speaker 1: Where was you at? I can't I can't remember that
Speaker 1: one Universus Studios. I can't remember that. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: I'll be lying. I can't remember. But I just remember
Speaker 1: when I got that the slip Wrists. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is slip Rick, that one after Diverse. You're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just said, call my mom and that that's
Speaker 1: them one that mom.
Speaker 3: I got to Slick, you know.
Speaker 2: Like he's like the first twenty one Savage. If you
Speaker 2: think about it.
Speaker 1: He is. Yeah, that's bro. That's great bro. You know
Speaker 1: d people don't even know he's English. Right, yeah, even
Speaker 1: we never kind of denied it. Even my l she
Speaker 1: was like, right, it's from u K.
Speaker 2: They were trying to they were trying to deport him.
Speaker 2: It was a big old there was a big movement.
Speaker 3: Why does Slick go back to jail? I think it
Speaker 3: was a gun?
Speaker 2: Was a gun gun too?
Speaker 1: You think, yeah, yeah, you're following his steps, yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah so yeah, that like bro man man
Speaker 1: is walking to school listening to Lardie D And that's
Speaker 1: my classic. You know, I would have never ever fought
Speaker 1: in the future walking to school. I'm going to have
Speaker 1: that in my phone.
Speaker 3: Family. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Ye know yourself.
Speaker 3: Let me you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Out here we say college, yeah, yeah, say university like
Speaker 4: we say vacation.
Speaker 1: Also, I mean, but we got we usually we got
Speaker 1: we got school, yeah, and then college and then university.
Speaker 1: So you finished school, when you finished school when you're sixteen,
Speaker 1: then you go college.
Speaker 2: Is that community college?
Speaker 1: No, it's just like it's like you university really kind
Speaker 1: of thing. But we don't have like I don't really think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people don't really like state.
Speaker 3: We don't haven't. They don't have like campuses and that.
Speaker 3: So it's just college.
Speaker 1: You just go there and in UNI you have to
Speaker 1: level up to get to UNI, and that's when there's
Speaker 1: like campuses.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we say vacation, you'll say holiday. Okay, But
Speaker 4: let me ask you a question on Slick Rick's children's story.
Speaker 4: He said, crash into a tree near university. The biggest
Speaker 4: debate is now I have not been able to ask.
Speaker 4: Look Rick, do you think he was talking about You
Speaker 4: think he was talking about university in the Bronx the street.
Speaker 1: I think he's saw about the street. It sounds like
Speaker 1: him having an accent. It must be America. It got
Speaker 1: you to even someone said, why, it's like savage. He
Speaker 1: hasn't even got English because he grew up in America. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, You're going to get an accent. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: me like so he must he must have grow up
Speaker 1: from here from young probably, but you'd have to ask him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, No, I don't want to ask him.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: I wanted this to be a mysterious well for a saying.
Speaker 2: I thought he was on the rock the bells call,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't. No, we had man legends on there.
Speaker 1: Did you see I can? I saw a rock he yeah,
Speaker 1: that was dopeg a chaffer rock here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just left Bill.
Speaker 3: This mix. So this is my thing though the Ross
Speaker 3: Clark Mama, Yeah on.
Speaker 2: Mama, Yeah, it's you said. You said your girl is Dominican.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 2: That's also for Yeah, if you tell the well, it's
Speaker 2: a thing for the thing.
Speaker 3: We saying for the well. So all right, so.
Speaker 1: We say yan day and y'alla. So y'all, y'all we
Speaker 1: say you lo okay.
Speaker 4: So for the people that don't know, you're gonna describe
Speaker 4: the people. A thing is a noun, right, it's a
Speaker 4: person talking about a girl.
Speaker 1: And thing is everything. Thing is could be you go
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go to that. You could be doing the thing.
Speaker 1: Or a thing like them things over there. You know
Speaker 1: things you're gonna go on linked this thing right, thing, yes, everything, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We can say it with things. It's the same word.
Speaker 3: With no listen.
Speaker 2: With take that anh out of there. It's just a marriage.
Speaker 3: From Miami, I mean not from Miami, but you brought
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're everything actually everything everything black college like college,
Speaker 1: I can it's the colleage normal, you know, college Jamaican.
Speaker 2: Let's just throw it out there.
Speaker 3: He made.
Speaker 1: He went to Barbados the other day. He had a
Speaker 1: better Jamaican accent than the bar bab don't.
Speaker 3: Exactly. It's almost looked at him like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: ya min.
Speaker 2: He said, you just got the college.
Speaker 4: He has earned his wife to his right, he has
Speaker 4: earned his right to be an honorary yard man. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he has earned his way I vote listen for the
Speaker 4: Jamaican society.
Speaker 5: Let me look at y'all, look at look at to
Speaker 5: the Jamaican count listening to Jamaica.
Speaker 1: Right to the right on the left bun side, right
Speaker 1: to the Jamaican Society. I have interviewed Buju Bantan, I
Speaker 1: have interviewed Beanie Man, I have interviewed it wasn't me
Speaker 1: shut bro, And I've interviewed the God, the God the world,
Speaker 1: Boss Botts Cartel. And to the Jamaican Society, I.
Speaker 2: Ron don't forget wrong.
Speaker 1: That's right that you guys make call it yea, let's
Speaker 1: make up. I'll say Calid made himself, madehimself, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of saving me, you know kid, I
Speaker 1: know Khalid from Dancel.
Speaker 3: Yes, he made his way through even from.
Speaker 1: West Jersey jazz and renaissance. Yeahs z over there. That's
Speaker 1: that's why the g he don't even say nothing, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But like even so, like even
Speaker 1: the other there I posted the picture with like Cartel, Kalid, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's amazing, bounty but.
Speaker 5: Quick because he said renaissance and people don't know we
Speaker 5: talk about we talking about sounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, renaissance sound yeah, d J cruise like the sounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I posted that picture because obviously that picture is crazy.
Speaker 1: That's like the new firm in our face, not even
Speaker 1: a new firm.
Speaker 3: That's like just I don't know, there's just so much,
Speaker 3: so much history, so much history that.
Speaker 1: But like mad people are saying our wives klid there,
Speaker 1: why but I see Calidar, That's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: know Kalid from dance or first like even I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying continue, continue, just I'm saying, yes,
Speaker 1: calid I remember, I used to listen to Renaissance, that
Speaker 1: jazzy tea Stone Love Renaissance. Then I used to hear Kalid,
Speaker 1: and these are cassette tapes. So I used to hear
Speaker 1: Kalid and he used to like Kalid used to be
Speaker 1: top places.
Speaker 2: Ninety six. There was a big Caribbean station, Pirate station.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but college radio.
Speaker 1: So them days there, Kalid used to have bare Bounty
Speaker 1: killer doves. Now you see them days there. To have
Speaker 1: bounty who don't know doves is like a free player.
Speaker 1: That's not a free start, and you take the song
Speaker 1: and you make yeah.
Speaker 5: Especially just they would they would, they would, they're saying
Speaker 5: your name on the record.
Speaker 2: They're taking a popular record that they got already and
Speaker 2: they're adding you to the record.
Speaker 3: Freestyle really the top of the head.
Speaker 2: That started changing a lot to that changed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, but yeah, so Khalid he's that bare
Speaker 1: bounty killer. Bare means a lot, yea. So he's that
Speaker 1: bare bounty in them days, bounty at the higher bout.
Speaker 1: In them days, you couldn't even to have a bounty dub.
Speaker 1: You had to have money and relate the relationship. You
Speaker 1: couldn't just have the money that this is bounty, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yes, and Khalid had bare
Speaker 1: bounty douves. And remember even on cassette tapes, I used
Speaker 1: to listen and Khalid he'll be He'll like come on
Speaker 1: after renaissance, after renaissances fucked it up, like mashed up
Speaker 1: the whole dance. Calid is coming on there. He's American,
Speaker 1: so like because he wasn't Jamaican, they used to do
Speaker 1: him like boo boo American.
Speaker 3: Well with that fro.
Speaker 1: Bottles and Kalid was still playing music, still lacing bear
Speaker 1: doves until he gets until it gets the respects man
Speaker 1: of fraend Bottles. He's a bottles glass, this is Jamaica,
Speaker 1: bear machines and let me he's still running and he's
Speaker 1: playing Bounty Killer Doves what not. Everyone can play. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Beef at the time now, because
Speaker 1: I'm saying you have to.
Speaker 3: Get it's hard to get like that's like, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: you can't just get a jay Z, even if you
Speaker 3: had all the money in the world, you can't get
Speaker 3: a jay Z, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: that's Kalid had the bounties and bear other yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he used to play until they stopped booing him,
Speaker 1: stop from balls and cheer him.
Speaker 3: And he would have like he used to make like
Speaker 3: hip hop kind of like that, Who Run It? Who
Speaker 3: Run It?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: So Khalid Like so even in that picture, Khalid is
Speaker 1: actually in the middle of this picture historically like Butcher
Speaker 1: and found a Khalid then well maybe cartel because he's
Speaker 1: to that right for kit Bop, Khalid is in the middle.
Speaker 1: And then Mavardo, you know what I'm saying. So Kalid
Speaker 1: is a he definitely earned his job.
Speaker 5: It was through dance all like and do you know
Speaker 5: the things A lot of people won't understand that route
Speaker 5: because in Miami, but brilliant hip hop and a lot
Speaker 5: of the United States, a lot of the DJs had
Speaker 5: they was dealing there was you had to be versed,
Speaker 5: well versed in dance hall if you was playing hip
Speaker 5: hop as well, because back in the day it was
Speaker 5: a lot of the dance hall parties were where we
Speaker 5: got to hear hip hop.
Speaker 3: Okay is it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? At least definitely in Miami for sure. That's crazy,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And then that's how you
Speaker 5: see what there was that bad yard.
Speaker 3: Man head times.
Speaker 5: So like like me, like my first gig that I
Speaker 5: got as a DJ, I'm this Cuban kid, was me
Speaker 5: having forty five straight from Jamaica.
Speaker 3: So your Cuban yeah, plane a dance hall.
Speaker 5: Set to get my first DJ. Yeah, that's how I
Speaker 5: got my first DJ. I had a mean dance hall set.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's sick, that's it.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, he killed it back then.
Speaker 1: Jazzy should have been in that picture though, Big up Jazzy,
Speaker 1: that man there is in the.
Speaker 3: Center of that.
Speaker 2: I mean, renaissance is legendary, legendary.
Speaker 1: Even like when I first I remember when I first
Speaker 1: like got money and clout, I remember one time we
Speaker 1: was having like so he was having like big parties
Speaker 1: in London. Yeah, so it was like me and Drake.
Speaker 1: Yeah so me and Drake, I was we was doing wireless. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so like it was that Kalid was actually meant to
Speaker 1: do wireless. By then you didn't really like the planeting yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I took Calid slot.
Speaker 3: Then I brought out.
Speaker 1: Drake as a surprise after yeah yeah yeah, then we
Speaker 1: were so it was having big parties in London. This
Speaker 1: is the mad thing, like this is gigs, Drake, like
Speaker 1: we just mashed up wireless, like you get me. So
Speaker 1: I was saying to Dre Yo, I'm gonna have the
Speaker 1: Mad party. After Drake saying what I'm gonna have the
Speaker 1: Mather party start saying all right, so now we're having
Speaker 1: like a party war.
Speaker 3: You get me here. So I said, yeah, how can
Speaker 3: I have the maddest party? You get me? So then
Speaker 3: I've hit up.
Speaker 1: I said, do you know what, I've got money and
Speaker 1: now I've got contacts, get Renaissance, you get me.
Speaker 3: So I've hit up like I've got the link for Jazzy's.
Speaker 1: People, and then I've hit up Jazzy's people to get
Speaker 1: renaissance down there.
Speaker 3: You get me? This is mad for me.
Speaker 1: It's a renaissance, bro, like you see me a lot
Speaker 1: of people I'm dancing first like yeah me, and it's
Speaker 1: a renaissance like yeh me, this is the same thing
Speaker 1: like Man's bringing hove over to before you get me.
Speaker 1: So then I've linked with renaissance now. And I said
Speaker 1: to Drizzy, man's got renaissance. Then Man was like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: then I must have invited like me and my breads
Speaker 1: and about three four hundred things like bodies. You get me,
Speaker 1: got some big venue renaissance, big girl I had like
Speaker 1: every bad man in London was there, like and most
Speaker 1: of the artists from UK as well, and there was
Speaker 1: bare like big American artists. I remember, like and and
Speaker 1: then made Jazzy come down. He fucked it up and
Speaker 1: like you get me like and I remember all the ovo.
Speaker 1: Man then kept saying, Yo, what times renaissance? Like what
Speaker 1: tis renaissance? You know what I'm saying? Like, but that's
Speaker 1: that's the.
Speaker 3: Shot. I want that, Drake think you know, I want
Speaker 3: a Drake battle.
Speaker 1: I also won No, I want that. I feel like
Speaker 1: he's gonna watch this and say something about it.
Speaker 3: Never Okay, no he might. He might say, I agree, Well.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Can I get some paper?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I got one.
Speaker 2: Go and now do you roll with Fanta and your
Speaker 2: ship or no?
Speaker 1: Fanto? Grab grab That's that's a New York that's a
Speaker 1: New York thing though, well grab off the grabber. So
Speaker 1: before I came here in UK, we were with cigarette. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so we were with cigarette.
Speaker 1: So then then one time I didn't have cigarettes for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah me.
Speaker 1: Then I then someone I said I fuck it, let
Speaker 1: me use this grab ship. And then then I was
Speaker 1: using grabber for a few days. Then I fought a cigarette.
Speaker 1: I need some cigarette. I went back get the cigarette
Speaker 1: was nasty. I was like, this is nasty because the
Speaker 1: cigarette from America.
Speaker 3: No, it's just like the grabber. It just tastes nice.
Speaker 1: Okay. So I just threw the cigarette away and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm grabbing now, you know what I'm saying, Like, like
Speaker 1: you see, like me, I'm the original street.
Speaker 3: Nigga who made it. Yeah in London.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like me being here, all the niggas are like,
Speaker 1: how do you get there?
Speaker 3: Let me get that lawyer. All the niggas everywhere I go,
Speaker 3: niggas who I don't get along.
Speaker 1: With, coming were saying about that lawyer like I'm telling you, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get.
Speaker 3: Over here, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know this is an unfair question. And
Speaker 1: then man, who even get over here? Yeah, they're getting
Speaker 1: married and ship. Actually I'm talking too much.
Speaker 3: Let me stop.
Speaker 5: This is this.
Speaker 4: Cop couple of Miami chicks, niggas writing track, write the
Speaker 4: moby track.
Speaker 1: They'll make a deal, will be ball park on your ass.
Speaker 3: The price is right, you know, got the bodies.
Speaker 1: Though it's mad over here, the Dominicans, I'm gott mad
Speaker 1: over here.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Cubans mean I had once I had. Let me not
Speaker 1: talk about it like that. One time I was linking
Speaker 1: a Cuban and Jamaican, like what kind of mixes that?
Speaker 3: That's maud.
Speaker 2: She's angry though, definitely angry.
Speaker 3: I know where.
Speaker 2: There was one woman.
Speaker 3: One thought you had too. I needn't seen that.
Speaker 1: Okay, together together.
Speaker 3: He said, together as one woman, because what I meant
Speaker 3: was I thought women is Cuban and.
Speaker 1: Make it. I'm like Okay, that sounds like a.
Speaker 2: Great night for you. But you're saying one.
Speaker 1: Sound clash makes his hair even beliezing. I've never met
Speaker 1: a beliez in.
Speaker 3: That's a.
Speaker 2: See s Beliza.
Speaker 5: Heard you say something different brought you see sh No
Speaker 5: what we got?
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 3: I really want to get over here?
Speaker 1: Yes, So then do you because like all the all
Speaker 1: the Jamaicans have their visas right now, right, what do
Speaker 1: you mean like old vibes my bottle, That's what it's about.
Speaker 2: Like that, you have to have a visa to come here.
Speaker 1: You gotta get a visa, like if you if you've
Speaker 1: got a criminal record, if you haven't got a criminal record,
Speaker 1: you can get star.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just easy to get in the
Speaker 1: country because you're not a criminal. You don't like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You're not a threat or anything? Right?
Speaker 3: Just Esther, he just do that. Like if I'm coming
Speaker 3: with my kids, I've got my visa. I do my
Speaker 3: kids Esthers.
Speaker 2: I never heard that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that's what we got. So so you've
Speaker 1: got Esther's. But the criminals, who is most of the
Speaker 1: man name need a visa.
Speaker 2: It's a temporary visa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you get a year, two years, three years,
Speaker 1: But like there's different visas. Is working visa Like even
Speaker 1: coming over here, I've met people with different visas that
Speaker 1: there's another guy who's got like a property visa. He
Speaker 1: does property out here, so he's got a visa. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, school, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different visas. But that's like the man ain't going
Speaker 1: to be criminals though, the criminal team, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever visa Vibes Cartel got, he's never going back.
Speaker 3: He got that goodsa.
Speaker 5: He got that.
Speaker 1: He comes into America because he's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vegas.
Speaker 2: Everywhere, he's helping the economy everywhere, everywhere you go.
Speaker 1: Vibell Clean vives he probably already had the visa in
Speaker 1: it from before and then he went and he went
Speaker 1: to jail. Oh yeah, the reverse, but then he was
Speaker 1: then he was then he was innocen. So really oh yes,
Speaker 1: that's right. Oh he never he never do they give
Speaker 1: him his visa back.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: He got he got, he got the proper visa. He
Speaker 1: got the proper as he as he deserves.
Speaker 4: That motherfucker been everywhere and he's been posting it too.
Speaker 2: Now he killing the game like a y n that
Speaker 2: Nigga's been like that he out so he's doing the
Speaker 2: master his thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Holy Ship Vibs is living his the flipping life.
Speaker 2: Well no, this makes some noise for Visus Holy Ship.
Speaker 1: So it's anything you would take back? What would you do?
Speaker 3: Take back?
Speaker 1: Take back like in the game like that you regret,
Speaker 1: regret it doing. I regret nothing. I'm me, Okay, you can't.
Speaker 1: That's you know what I mean. Everything you go for
Speaker 1: is for a reason. That's what creates you, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 5: So yeah, definitely not y'all seen the I was watching
Speaker 5: a podcast on YouTube that I watched my homie Justin
Speaker 5: Hunt the aka the Company Man.
Speaker 2: They were talking about skeptic.
Speaker 5: That's he's he's throwing shots at trying to like do
Speaker 5: like like a battle with American artists.
Speaker 4: Oh like Joey Badass in a way that Joey Badass challenged.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess not like it's not it's just battle.
Speaker 2: What about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: For me, that's not really familiar with that, like and
Speaker 1: stuff like I'm not really I'm too emotional.
Speaker 2: For that, Yeah, it's not for everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't keep me eye of that.
Speaker 2: Like I think Lucas jumped in on it. Wait, I
Speaker 2: haven't heard of this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to Justin Hunt who covered it likes
Speaker 5: he's like he's like Markman, okay, and so yeah, it's
Speaker 5: just it's just funny because there's this whole thing is
Speaker 5: supposed to be, like they're labeling as US against UK. Yes,
Speaker 5: like you see like me personally, I know you say
Speaker 5: you feel like you're too emotional like me.
Speaker 1: Personally, I don't like like I've got American regends, Canadian, Jamaican,
Speaker 1: Beijian guy Andese like Trainer that didn't bridget Like I
Speaker 1: look at us one thing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So even in music, like I look at myself as
Speaker 1: one of the best anyway. I don't like need to
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, like I need to go against us,
Speaker 1: like I'm like, you know what I'm saying, I'm on
Speaker 1: the same level anyway, right, I don't need to like
Speaker 1: separate things like you know what I'm saying, It's all
Speaker 1: one thing, Like you don't need to like say, yeah,
Speaker 1: US versus them, and like you know what I mean
Speaker 1: I think like we've got cold UK rapper, we've got
Speaker 1: cold US rappers, we've got shipped UK rapper.
Speaker 3: You like, you know what I'm saying. I agree, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's like the separating thing and
Speaker 3: like oh yeah, us versus that. I don't really you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean there is a place I was just like
Speaker 2: healthy competition too though, yeah.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: I don't think like it needs to be us versus
Speaker 1: them though, Right, you know what I'm saying, like like
Speaker 1: put that way, yeah, because it's supposed like it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be just looking at yourself as the greatest of
Speaker 1: all time, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Right, You see, like when I see.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, for example, if I see like
Speaker 1: like Nicki Minaj, like yeah, say, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like no disrespects and Nikki is just fooling that. But
Speaker 1: like if I see like that, when Nikki will be
Speaker 1: going at like Cardi or something, yeah, I think like Nikki,
Speaker 1: like you're one of the greatest rappers.
Speaker 2: There's no need for it.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's no you're one of the greatest rappers.
Speaker 1: Like forget female, like you're one of the best, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You don't have to like
Speaker 1: because there's another female, go up against this other female,
Speaker 1: because you're one of the best.
Speaker 3: You're like Kanye.
Speaker 1: You smoke Kanye songs, Drake songs, like fucking Chains like
Speaker 1: them even like I don't know, say like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love them strippers like to Chains and Nicki Minaj, Yeah
Speaker 1: them times Chains was smoking everything in his way in
Speaker 1: it like change them times boats time. Yeah, and Nikki
Speaker 1: smoked that song, Smoke that. That's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: Nikki versus you're one of the greatest.
Speaker 3: Like, so I feel like when you're like just putting
Speaker 3: yourself in the.
Speaker 1: Female category, it's just lower in your tail yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like when you're one of the greatest of full time. Like, so,
Speaker 1: I don't need to be like UK versus your like
Speaker 1: to prove not to me. I know, I'm one of
Speaker 1: the coldest, right you know what I'm saying that, So
Speaker 1: that doesn't really involve me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's so cool for skephin that way he
Speaker 1: wants to do not saying that, But that's that's not
Speaker 1: really my ship, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 1: I watch it and be entertained, but I ain't like
Speaker 1: admiting one of the greatest you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the other's records.
Speaker 2: You've got.
Speaker 1: It's what Diddy? Yeah, how did that come about?
Speaker 3: That was man?
Speaker 1: I remember he had the the BT off the party
Speaker 1: after the show. Obviously you can have with the jokes,
Speaker 1: and that was after if Like, Bro, this is one
Speaker 1: of the best parties I've ever been. Honest, this is
Speaker 1: what it was mad, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: went to the party that was Obviously it's a sore
Speaker 1: subject and that, but me, I'm honest, bro, this party
Speaker 1: was mad. This is l a I've gone in. There's
Speaker 1: like the whole dance floor is like, fucking what's that show?
Speaker 1: You not used to have over it when people dance
Speaker 1: on the floor with the colors, the soul trained floor and.
Speaker 3: The soul trained floor with the colors, like and I
Speaker 3: ain't seen that ship in real life.
Speaker 1: You know, there was I'm like, everyone who you can
Speaker 1: think of is their bare bodies food truck with free
Speaker 1: food drinks.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. This party was mad. Even
Speaker 3: I remember I said I had the drink stand off party.
Speaker 1: I was speaking my game, you know the one, and
Speaker 1: then this time I didn't even know Puff ten times
Speaker 1: yeah me, and then then boom, I see Puff. He
Speaker 1: came like halfway through the party him and I see
Speaker 1: him walking through him and Mary, and then I bumped
Speaker 1: into him and then he's like, bro.
Speaker 3: What the fuck are you doing there?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I've been trying to get hold of You're
Speaker 1: still on coming London soon?
Speaker 3: Yeah me?
Speaker 1: Wow yeah, And then we linked like that and then
Speaker 1: then he was when he was coming to London, he
Speaker 1: wanted to a party. Obviously, man does the bats. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm actually do it. It was wireless times again, so
Speaker 1: I said we should do arting because I'm going to
Speaker 1: do a thing. You're going to do your party like
Speaker 1: it's going to clash, yeah me, we might as well
Speaker 1: bring it together and do the Then we had a
Speaker 1: party in the fucking football stadium football what was it
Speaker 1: staying marena, I watch.
Speaker 5: Me.
Speaker 1: We had a big party and that everyone was there,
Speaker 1: so like even like like if there's like jokes and
Speaker 1: everyone was at that party in England, you know, I
Speaker 1: was a mad thing, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, then I made them, the mand them, and.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, like I would like them classic, like
Speaker 1: like did the vocals that you know, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I used to love like Rick Ross he said,
Speaker 1: remember Holy Ghost when he used to like do that
Speaker 1: I'm going there and that, you know.
Speaker 3: I said, I want you to do that a man's
Speaker 3: thing like and for me that was legendary.
Speaker 2: And he said on the intro, I'm in the ends
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So that
Speaker 1: record is hard yeah yeah yeah for me, Bro, that
Speaker 1: was the man thing. Bro, I'm a fan of music. Bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you get me so
Speaker 1: yeah me even like obviously that everyone makes like the
Speaker 1: jokes and that, but for me, like all the man legends,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, you get me so
Speaker 1: so like I don't want to see like none of
Speaker 1: the legends, like you can't take it with look, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see none of that from like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, like let's take that.
Speaker 3: And they said when they were that stuff, I see
Speaker 3: people saying.
Speaker 1: Oh's next. I figure, fucking know what's he doing now?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, like why do we
Speaker 1: want to them guys like help create?
Speaker 3: Man? You know what I'm saying all the way in England.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here now like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: good in life, Like that's what all of you guys
Speaker 1: have done, like all of you.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that. So I don't really like.
Speaker 1: People trying to take down our culture and then we're
Speaker 1: taking it down ourselves.
Speaker 3: It's sad, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I mean, h who like better Nasa Jim Jones.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: That's two different things that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, even like there was like Nas, I remember
Speaker 1: there was a time like Nas is like that's Nas
Speaker 1: remember him and jay Z shoot up them days? And
Speaker 1: then like there was a time when I was in jail,
Speaker 1: oh free, and it was I used to bear Jim
Speaker 1: Jones on my way to church time.
Speaker 3: Yeah them times. You know what I'm saying that, But yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't that's that was a joke, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean no, because a lot of people
Speaker 4: gave me criticism because I was saying that that I
Speaker 4: saw where Jim Jones was coming from. Like what I'm
Speaker 4: meant by that is like when you look at the
Speaker 4: young young people, the people that that's looking at the
Speaker 4: algorithms now one million percent.
Speaker 1: I do see where he's coming from.
Speaker 4: Of course, overall you see an argument, yes, like yeah,
Speaker 4: of course you know what I'm saying. Overall, and by
Speaker 4: the way it's being put in that argument, it's fucking dope.
Speaker 4: Like just think about that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: that's like, that's like us, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: that's that's like, that's like us being compared to us
Speaker 4: playing is fucking softball football and they're comparing us to
Speaker 4: the Jets Like it's like, oh ship, Like you know,
Speaker 4: we just got compared to the Jets and then we're
Speaker 4: like we're like a you know, a football team that
Speaker 4: doesn't even you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, Like, so that's what I'm trying to say. At
Speaker 1: the same time, that's Jim's opinion. Yeah, that's it really
Speaker 1: man taking it too serious. He's supposed to think he's
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 5: He said, you're supposed to everyone's the best, and to me,
Speaker 5: to me, it's working out for Gym.
Speaker 1: I believe NAS doesn't have to respond. I believe I
Speaker 1: believe he's good, but I believe the argument is dope
Speaker 1: for us London. So for me, that's fucking Jim Jo
Speaker 1: and that's fucking right. That's two legends for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like when I'm around each of them, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: that's the guys, so like that stuff, I don't really
Speaker 1: that's the internet stuff in it.
Speaker 4: And this week we just had uh Max b on
Speaker 4: on Drink Champs and he announced his date that he's
Speaker 4: actually coming home this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I speak to Max again and at the end,
Speaker 3: you're going to work on music. We've done it.
Speaker 1: I was on his last album, Wow, how do you
Speaker 1: link with Max? He used to link with so one
Speaker 1: of the Sas guys, one of the because say states
Speaker 1: to have euro Gang in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: And there was an artist on the Hayes and he
Speaker 1: used to live with Max and that and then he
Speaker 1: was like look shout out to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: Hayes linking with Max and yeah his last album we
Speaker 1: got a song on there. I can't remember the name,
Speaker 1: super Fly Slight Superan.
Speaker 3: I nearly said, fuck you you can.
Speaker 1: Say fun everything, sucker, motherfucker, sucker.
Speaker 3: Mother.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, more worries, no let me ask you this though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so drill and grime this is all started in
Speaker 5: the UK, right, But some argue that drill is started
Speaker 5: in Chicago.
Speaker 2: What's your take on on that.
Speaker 1: That's a great question. Yeah, I'll say the drill started
Speaker 1: in Chicago, but like the style of music, yeah, started
Speaker 1: in London. But they was inspired by the Chicago drill,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So what so there is a direct we break that
Speaker 2: down breaking it's.
Speaker 1: Like Chief Keith and all that, right, like you know
Speaker 1: saying like Dirk or whatever. Man there, the UK drill
Speaker 1: is inspired by that.
Speaker 3: Do you yet me?
Speaker 1: But then they made their own sound of sonically yeah
Speaker 1: that we're here now? Yeah, so and that sound and
Speaker 1: then the New York like drill is the same as
Speaker 1: that sound drills.
Speaker 2: From London was from London or the New York.
Speaker 1: Drillers New York drill that you hear like I don't know,
Speaker 1: bas like Favio and all that, Right, that's that's London drill,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then but now it's
Speaker 1: that kind of evolved into like the kind of Jersey
Speaker 1: sound in it, like with the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that kind of what's it was?
Speaker 1: It like forty one what they called that, I'm a
Speaker 1: relaxed when are we fucking again?
Speaker 2: Sexy drill?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about? When they called forty two,
Speaker 3: forty one, forty.
Speaker 1: One, Yeah, that's kind of like it's kind of drill,
Speaker 1: but then it's kind of it's kind of morphed into
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, So now it's his
Speaker 1: own sound because it's kind of Jersey like, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 3: So now they made another sound yet me?
Speaker 5: So does do people in London feel like they're the
Speaker 5: ones who inspired here or do they feel like they
Speaker 5: took something from Chicago?
Speaker 1: Like how do the originators like six seven that they're
Speaker 1: from London that they arige six to seven? I'll say,
Speaker 1: like Section Boys, they would probably tell you like Chief
Speaker 1: Keith and that inspired that Chicago? Yeah me, but the
Speaker 1: origin then they started and now and then you would
Speaker 1: get the younger ones like I don't know, like low
Speaker 1: Ski and like even at Central Seed who would have
Speaker 1: listened to six seven?
Speaker 3: And you yet me? Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and Section and did d ting you yet? Me?
Speaker 1: Ill?
Speaker 2: And then what about grime?
Speaker 3: Grime is grime is like.
Speaker 1: So grime is is it's like when it's like one
Speaker 1: tempo music, so it's one forty bpm.
Speaker 3: So like say, like that drill, that drill was probably.
Speaker 1: Like one thirty one twenty eight bpm. Grime is one
Speaker 1: forty bpm, and like they used to like so first
Speaker 1: it started with garage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was a drumming bass or any of that.
Speaker 1: Now now drumming basses before that, but it's all kind
Speaker 1: of in the same yeah, yeah, so yeah, drumming bass, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then that kind of turned into like it was
Speaker 1: drummer based kind of jungle jungle, and then like it's
Speaker 1: then it mixed the fuse the dance or and then
Speaker 1: it was like that's kind of jungle, right because they
Speaker 1: had the dance and that didn't eymore no, no, you
Speaker 1: know the ones like them kind of tunes. And then
Speaker 1: after that kind of came garage. Well garage might have
Speaker 1: been the same time, don't quote me yet, me like,
Speaker 1: and it was garage. And then that's when the street
Speaker 1: niggers started spitting on garage.
Speaker 2: So they're rhyming on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, garage, you know that garage, you know the one's
Speaker 1: that house house and garages house and garage yeah. House music, yeah,
Speaker 1: House and garage yeah. Oh, garage yeah yeah, garage, garage, garage,
Speaker 1: we say garage. So that house and garage kind of
Speaker 1: and the man used to spit on house and garage
Speaker 1: yet me and then the street niggas started making their
Speaker 1: own kind of beats, that tempo, and then they then
Speaker 1: it kind of fused into grime because it was more
Speaker 1: raw garage, house and garages that you know, happy house like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the man is spitting on it now street niggers,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, So then they start
Speaker 1: making their own beats and its darker, yeah exactly, and
Speaker 1: then that became grime. But it wasn't cool grime for long.
Speaker 1: It was just didn't have a name manager spitting on it.
Speaker 1: It's still kind of garage. And then man start calling
Speaker 1: it different names Eski, but that grime stock and then
Speaker 1: that's grime. Yeah, so that's Skepta, Wiley, Dizzey, Rascal, Dizzey
Speaker 1: Rascals grime yeah really yeah. Dizzy was the coded Dizzy
Speaker 1: was one of the people who made me want to spit.
Speaker 1: Thom is straight hip hop ships. Dizzey was one of
Speaker 1: the coldest crime.
Speaker 2: You mean it's all hip hop though at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, yeah.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, so so so grime.
Speaker 1: Now, grime is a fusion of hip hop, garage, dance
Speaker 1: l because the man name in London are Jamaican African, but.
Speaker 3: That's the b Yeah.
Speaker 2: But if you're spitting to me, that is hip hop already.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, unless it's true. But the man used
Speaker 3: to spit like like garage days. They used to spit
Speaker 3: like check one to check to check, you know that
Speaker 3: one was like oh we go up the street and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like kind of you know what I'm saying, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: though they might even saying anything.
Speaker 3: We loving it, loving it, loving it, we loving it.
Speaker 3: That's that's garage.
Speaker 2: Because was hard.
Speaker 3: Grime came and Dizzy, who changed the game. He used
Speaker 3: to be spitting cold like like slip on your rebook,
Speaker 3: pumps star jumps like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He would come, he be on the hearted. That's when
Speaker 1: he needed the harder beats. Then it started fusing the
Speaker 1: more bass, raw, dirty, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: hip hop. So by this time I listened to dancer
Speaker 1: as well, So it's got a touch of dancer in there,
Speaker 1: and you get me. But man's listening to rap music.
Speaker 1: So when man's spitting, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then there was grime then, But the grime thing that
Speaker 1: there was, they weren't really gang bangers in grime, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like more like there was couple,
Speaker 1: but it's more like like good kids kind of thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you get me, Like
Speaker 1: here's there might shoot you baby, yeah, because they're from
Speaker 1: the streets, but they're not frop They're not that like
Speaker 1: they might be the good kids who focus on music.
Speaker 3: Them times, music wasn't cool, right, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If you're a street.
Speaker 1: Nigger on music, it's not cool. If you're doing grime,
Speaker 1: that's them grime niggas. You know what I'm saying, Like, manny,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you're doing grime, if
Speaker 1: like man like me, I started fucking with before it
Speaker 1: was cool grime and it would be like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: what I'm doing grime? Like you know what I'm saying, man,
Speaker 1: you have to yeah, so what I'm making this ground
Speaker 1: you get me. And then then I went to jail
Speaker 1: and then niggas are rapping in jail. UK niggas weren't
Speaker 1: really rapping them like street niggas, you get me. So
Speaker 1: then niggas are in jail, were rapping, and my grime
Speaker 1: songs are signing kind of nerdy like I was, like,
Speaker 1: I said, I hide my grime songs like yeah, they say,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that one. Then I started rapping. I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this wrap to fuck this grind ship like
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Then that's then then there was me
Speaker 3: and then there's all.
Speaker 1: The underground rappers as well, like because it was rapping
Speaker 1: time like and that was the street niggas.
Speaker 3: That's when it was crazy in the streets.
Speaker 1: Niggas started rapping English accents, niggas busting shots on fucking
Speaker 1: DVDs and ship. We had a DVD error because that's
Speaker 1: what we got that from, you lot from like Smack.
Speaker 2: Don't play from.
Speaker 3: Influence smack because you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So then we had the DVDs, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that was when UK like skankster street rap, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, so then you still had grime,
Speaker 1: but like it was grime over there, and then there's
Speaker 1: UK rap. Right, So that's why even like if I
Speaker 1: come to America and someone calls me ground, I mean,
Speaker 1: I ain't know Grandmatis.
Speaker 2: So you think that Grand Martyrs would separate themselves from
Speaker 2: hip hop?
Speaker 1: Yeah, even like like so like because all of the
Speaker 1: like Skepta, he's grime, yeah, gigs rap. But even though
Speaker 1: Skeptic makes hip hop as well, me, I can make
Speaker 1: grime as well because I started with that because it's faster,
Speaker 1: you know, spit fast, like you know, like twist stops.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you get me, so
Speaker 1: I can do that as well, you get me. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he's skeptar Kino, Diz, Rascal, grime, gigs, fucking I don't
Speaker 1: know Dave hip hop, Like you know what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Dave were calling sorry, because he's right,
Speaker 1: he's probably hip hop. But anyway, it's separate, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yes, but what was the question
Speaker 1: you asked me just then?
Speaker 3: But I was just saying, you.
Speaker 1: Guys, yeah, you know, that's that's where it coming from.
Speaker 1: But even like me, my music here because mad times,
Speaker 1: I think ro where do I belong like musically do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, because I'll make a
Speaker 1: song with like popcorn like and then I'll make a
Speaker 1: song with Dave East.
Speaker 3: Where do I belong?
Speaker 1: Like? You know what I'm saying that because that's a dancer.
Speaker 1: I'm not bringing popcorn on a hip hop rhythm. It's
Speaker 1: on a hard dance ALREADTHM, and I'm lacing it dance
Speaker 1: all start. But then I might lace a Dave East,
Speaker 1: but then I might lace a fucking young fuck on
Speaker 1: the south thing?
Speaker 3: Right, So ro what what's my music?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, me, but now I understand raw Like I'm just
Speaker 3: my music. It's just u K. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I can do whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hip hopos or period. But there's dancer in there,
Speaker 1: and dance is the original, So what is it really?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: That's how just because they are the original rappers in.
Speaker 3: The sense original rappers. Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: In a sense in a sense I said, think about it,
Speaker 5: Dan Saw is just rapping in patois.
Speaker 2: On a certain b.
Speaker 3: So, but that's the original though, so and then hip
Speaker 3: hop comes off though it depends on.
Speaker 5: Okay, So now we gotta get real historic if we're
Speaker 5: go no, no, we gotta go.
Speaker 2: We gotta go by year now, we gotta go.
Speaker 5: By years because reggae will turn into dance. We gotta
Speaker 5: go yearly, the seventy ease and then and we gotta
Speaker 5: go with Bob Marley changes to dance hall like.
Speaker 3: Reggae reggae, Yeah, we got to That's okay.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go into that. Let me let me,
Speaker 2: but I just think it's all related to be honest
Speaker 2: with you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So that's not saying
Speaker 1: where do I belong though, it's just music, Like if
Speaker 1: you think it's one fan it came to like a
Speaker 1: gig show. It's like dance or hip hop, like real
Speaker 1: hip hop, fucking some grime, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My things like one minute your busting shots, next minute
Speaker 1: your doing the grime thing. Then then you're dancing with
Speaker 1: the gym made tunes for the girl. Like it's all
Speaker 1: different flavors that, you know what I'm saying, Like hip hop.
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of why I agree you.
Speaker 3: Supposed because because you might have mix heavy d outside.
Speaker 3: I got all right, I got I.
Speaker 1: Got lost up bag By, but it was like hip hop,
Speaker 1: but it was like don't so like I know what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Like like last.
Speaker 5: Thing of karras One, he does a lot of Ye
Speaker 5: Pats One and his hip hop record.
Speaker 2: Charris One would shoot.
Speaker 1: You, And.
Speaker 3: That's still don't carros One because I did.
Speaker 2: Any of us, so.
Speaker 5: All that influence, but it's totally hip hop is hip hop.
Speaker 5: I believe everything that.
Speaker 1: You see don't in them days in that that's like
Speaker 1: a ees On sign. We used to we used to
Speaker 1: cool that racket hip hop. So remember remember we had raga.
Speaker 1: Remember the Bush.
Speaker 5: Babies remember yeah, yeah, like they were and there was
Speaker 5: there was there was teetering between reggae and hip hop,
Speaker 5: but it was hip hop.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that's not saying then we would say
Speaker 1: racket hip hop them days.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Babies born Americans, born Americans as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to me, look, it's all it's one
Speaker 2: big family musing.
Speaker 3: I know that is off the chain.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I met one of their fishtakers. I am parted. That
Speaker 3: was mad. Yeah yeah, yo, ll list ye they were cold.
Speaker 3: The album from twenty Pounds Illness twenty pounds that I
Speaker 3: remember that. What is that in the USD probably twenty five.
Speaker 3: That's when that's a lot.
Speaker 4: For the first time I went to London, I gave
Speaker 4: a man one thousand dollars to convert the thing.
Speaker 1: He gave me a seventy eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, has to be hot. Gave you have had
Speaker 3: that break kind of let me not get not get fired.
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: The first time in my life when they said brexit,
Speaker 4: I said, what is brexit?
Speaker 2: He said it was breakfast.
Speaker 4: Somebody's a part of them, one of the to not
Speaker 4: be a part of them no more, but still be
Speaker 4: a part of them.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's hard, Like that's all like like
Speaker 1: they left, but they got one leg in.
Speaker 2: They still got one leg in. That's kind of hard.
Speaker 4: That's like the Bronx saying I don't want to be
Speaker 4: a part of New York City, but I still.
Speaker 2: Want to stay.
Speaker 1: That's hard, Like that's hard. Just think about the logic Bronx.
Speaker 3: That's like, it's like.
Speaker 1: Texas.
Speaker 3: It's like what can I say.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like poor Rico and America saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be part of you know, no more.
Speaker 1: It's kind of more like that because Porto Rico is
Speaker 1: just over thing, but it's still kind of under America
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: Who would be Puerto Rico in this announced.
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico might be in Europe and the UK is
Speaker 3: America America.
Speaker 2: That's a big mask. I feel like.
Speaker 1: That's what bre say is we separated from Europe. But
Speaker 1: is it You're a bigger Europe. Europe our passport that
Speaker 1: my passport. So this passport, now, this is the old passport.
Speaker 1: This is this says, this says.
Speaker 2: EU and you can travel easily.
Speaker 3: That's EU and U K. You remember this possible in it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah he can't.
Speaker 2: He's American.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now the possible after Bread said the possible
Speaker 1: is just UK okay, and it's black. It's not even
Speaker 1: think So I've got the black passport.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's some hard shp.
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen a black pastor. I need that
Speaker 2: for my leave bit.
Speaker 1: You need a better Just here, I'm about to joint
Speaker 1: press it. I'm playing where's let's go. Okay, guys, so whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: she got politically incorrec.
Speaker 3: Shot change the subject.
Speaker 2: Let's take a shot for change the subjects. Let's take
Speaker 2: this because this has got too politically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking about my fucking book.
Speaker 1: You got a book? Who signed to it? She feels
Speaker 1: my pains. She from the Netherlands. Okay, neu up my
Speaker 1: ting and it's a guy music. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: That socky thing is nice.
Speaker 1: It's nice, right and you know what you still alert?
Speaker 3: You still yeah? Yeah like though yeah, I need I need,
Speaker 3: I need ye. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: You actually get a little bit more sober.
Speaker 1: Than I like.
Speaker 3: And I like this as well. Is that majuana my things?
Speaker 2: See that as well, that's my majuana kings my thing.
Speaker 1: See I'm gonna be honest. I don't recommend that.
Speaker 3: Listen, man, listen, I heard this is for me.
Speaker 1: If I linked the thing that my zoobie, my Mamajuana King. Listen,
Speaker 1: this guy go basking, go for it, not Meva Juana King.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is how I heir Manjuana is me.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not made the way he's saying it.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and tubb and kindle with people can't even
Speaker 1: live in kendle.
Speaker 3: Let's not say this on the show.
Speaker 2: Is all the time, all the time.
Speaker 3: I said you for the in the office for I know,
Speaker 3: a couple.
Speaker 1: Of dudes with dirty feet.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, that's how he's making that.
Speaker 3: If you think about it, that's how wine is made.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one story.
Speaker 2: This kind of have to step on listen. I give
Speaker 2: you one story. I'll give you one story.
Speaker 3: Me and a bone.
Speaker 4: You stepped on grapes holding hand. So I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 4: gonna look. So we're at Palermo. You know what Palmo
Speaker 4: in Italy, right it Sicily. This is where the mafia
Speaker 4: is invented.
Speaker 3: We know, but we don't know.
Speaker 4: But as soon as you land, you know, like you know,
Speaker 4: like this is this is, this is where they at.
Speaker 4: So we check into the hotel. Soon as we check
Speaker 4: into the hotel, they take our passports and I mean
Speaker 4: they literally take our passports as we check in, like
Speaker 4: they take them. So we're like all sitting around and
Speaker 4: you know, we ordered these bottles of wine. We're like,
Speaker 4: they're like, you know, just will be a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4: So we ordered these bottles of wine. I'm talking about
Speaker 4: it must have been like six hours. We drink everything,
Speaker 4: every bottom of wine that they had, We drink them
Speaker 4: like it must have so hours later, like they take
Speaker 4: so much along with our passports, but we're so drunk
Speaker 4: we don't care.
Speaker 1: They give us back up passports, we take them.
Speaker 4: We asked for the bill because they say we had
Speaker 4: the end and then they tell us we had to
Speaker 4: clear y'all through the FBI.
Speaker 1: We're like, holy shit, it was this was some abnormal ship.
Speaker 1: But we already fucked up. Were just like, let's just
Speaker 1: roll over there, right, So.
Speaker 2: So we we go upstairs, we do the show.
Speaker 4: The next day, we realized, like, yo, how much was
Speaker 4: that bill in American money? Like we must have drank
Speaker 4: forty bottles right well, our bill was like one hundred
Speaker 4: and forty dollars. So we're like something about this might
Speaker 4: not be right.
Speaker 1: This is cheaper out there.
Speaker 2: I wake up in the morning.
Speaker 1: It's this guy's one guy just making the wine byself.
Speaker 2: Come on, guy, you.
Speaker 3: Can't make.
Speaker 5: You can't.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, this is how they did it. It's
Speaker 3: the reason why they wine was so cheap. I had
Speaker 3: one guy.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not Lucy Man come each other story.
Speaker 3: Right now. Absolutely that because it's you such a guy
Speaker 3: literally for your own eyes, stepping in the Absolutely absolutely
Speaker 3: one million, but almost that juice takes a long.
Speaker 2: Time to become one.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the ship that he was just
Speaker 1: stepping on at that moment became what we but eventually
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 2: Yes from the field.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you.
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you the reason why I noticed him.
Speaker 2: He didn't look clean.
Speaker 1: He looked like a guy that pumps gas. Because what
Speaker 1: you got to realize, and Palermo is a very poor place,
Speaker 1: Palama so outside of this these little like resorts or whatever.
Speaker 3: Like you see.
Speaker 4: This is when I went there recently and I seen
Speaker 4: Africans pumping out.
Speaker 3: But back then you had you seen just poor you.
Speaker 4: Know, Italian just pump your gas and you sitting there
Speaker 4: and you're like you want to watch him, you don't
Speaker 4: even want to go in there and gets no cheeses,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like you like looking at
Speaker 4: this guy, like this guy pumping gas like it was.
Speaker 3: It was rough.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I thought all Italy was beautiful. I didn't no, Pallemo,
Speaker 1: this is where the mafia is fucking born at.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that ship.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we got drunk as hell, woke up in
Speaker 4: the morning and I see one man stopping on grapes.
Speaker 2: And well, you know when the firm man SA kills
Speaker 2: all the germs.
Speaker 4: You think you think I thought like that At that
Speaker 4: very moment, I'm thinking like, oh, this guy, I know
Speaker 4: he ain't washed his feet.
Speaker 3: He made it.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, gigs. And every time I see
Speaker 4: my majana, that's what I figure.
Speaker 3: Doesn't even know this guy.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know, but I just I just know
Speaker 1: my ma wana is not made correctly.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 2: Listen, bro, my god, this guy goes in on this mamajuana.
Speaker 2: I just know it's not making.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: He goes in on this moment. He doesn't know any people.
Speaker 3: Mamajuana. I never goes in on him.
Speaker 2: I just never said I did, but I just feel like.
Speaker 3: That's what you think. Come when you see it, and
Speaker 3: I said, guy had The guy puts herbs, but he
Speaker 3: drinking the real feet juice. You don't even so he's traumatized.
Speaker 3: Even me, I'm drinking the mama wana. That's the case.
Speaker 2: The guy in the mamahuanna guy calls me up. He's like, yo, nor,
Speaker 2: he's this in the funk out of me, I said,
Speaker 2: my man do A video now promoting it the way.
Speaker 5: He said, you gotta got girls, sexy girls in the
Speaker 5: bathtom making.
Speaker 2: The mamajuana to help the fly.
Speaker 1: And he was angry.
Speaker 2: I said, don't be angry.
Speaker 3: He's clean by these.
Speaker 1: Rains. He saw.
Speaker 2: The guy saw everything. He said, He's like, I don't
Speaker 2: make it like that.
Speaker 4: So I got playing around what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But in my mind, that's the way it's made. Like
Speaker 2: that's in my mind. Like I mean, moonshine is made
Speaker 2: in the bathtub. Real, this is dominicky moon shine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's rude, it's roots and then you add alcohol
Speaker 5: after the fact.
Speaker 4: We got two more shots left. I just want to
Speaker 4: salute you. Give your flowers face to face man, the man.
Speaker 4: The things that you did is remarkable. Things that you're
Speaker 4: doing is remarkable. Things that you continue to be a
Speaker 4: part of.
Speaker 3: One that does it.
Speaker 1: I believe you got one more.
Speaker 2: So don't let it do it.
Speaker 1: They don't let it win.
Speaker 3: So but.
Speaker 2: Don't let them. Don't let them win.
Speaker 1: Whoever them isn't the people that Colin talk about got
Speaker 1: lost hope?
Speaker 3: You know real opinion. Long ago.
Speaker 1: I said, dreams were proud of you. Man.
Speaker 4: We want to salute you. We want to let you
Speaker 4: know the things you do did and doing is remarkable
Speaker 4: man like for a person for your story like you know,
Speaker 4: you know, like you know, being locked up abroad and
Speaker 4: being able to be a uh the man them there
Speaker 4: and then come home and dominate America due to us
Speaker 4: have records with every reputable artist, like that's a true
Speaker 4: international star. And I just personally want to salute you personally.
Speaker 4: You know obviously what I'm saying, person I'm saying the
Speaker 4: whole camp to Drink Champs. But you know what you doing,
Speaker 4: what you did is not normal man.
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's what it is about our show is we want
Speaker 4: to let you know the dope ship that you do
Speaker 4: it and you're doing and that ship is that ship
Speaker 4: is unheard of.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go down in the history books.
Speaker 4: So until those history books is wrote, we gonna drink
Speaker 4: for you here and we're gonna salute your head.
Speaker 3: You deserve these props. Salu.
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