WEBVTT - Episode 462 w/ Giggs 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.160 He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.400 queens rapper. He ain't agreed as your boy in O 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:18.800 R E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.200 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Put up its DJ. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.599 E f N together they drink it up with some. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.239 Of the biggest players, you know what I mean. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.640 And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.120 source for drunk drink Chans day is New. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:38.320 Year c That's it's time for drink Champions. Drink up, motherfucker? 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.880 Would it good be over this simp ship boy. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:46.400 And O R E? 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.480 What up is DJ E f N And it's drink 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.319 champs y make some no. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.480 And man, when we talk about people that's been doing it, 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:01.840 you know, Corosse Sea's international over twenty year is records 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.320 with some of the biggest people in the world. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.360 When you talk about the Manim, that's the Mandim and 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:12.800 standing next to the Mandamn, you understand continue to do 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.480 have respect. That's the biggest thing about it is. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:16.399 You know, sometimes you. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.120 Can have respect from the fans, you can have the 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.120 respect from from from from the executives, but when you 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.120 have respect from the actual artists, the actual community, the 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.280 actual people who put out these who put out this culture, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.920 who stand behind them? I'm telling you the people who 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:32.880 we everybody most respect respect. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:33.440 That's man. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.040 So in case I don't know who we talking about, 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.880 we talking about the Mandem, the motherfucking one of the 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:43.160 London's kings, and we're gonna get into all of that 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.680 right now today. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:51.680 So so off. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.000 Top, I want to ask you, are we okay with ice? 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.360 Is an ice goring up in here? 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:56.400 Damn? 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:07.640 I'm going to you know, because Trump is wild and 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:14.639 he's taking even out London. Nobody ain't the joke. So later, yeah, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.720 I know, y'ah, So I know, yeah, so I know, yeah, 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:18.760 I know ya to excuse. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.639 Us from right now with all the crazy accents and 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:26.200 probably will come out London, you know. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.240 But but but all right, let me ask you right 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:35.640 way wait, I'll go to visas, okay, right, I didn't 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.760 have backing up because because I heard that you at 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.079 one point you were banned in your own country, right, 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.200 But what I'm saying is one time I got banned 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.360 in London just for going through and not having a visa, right, okay, 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:50.799 So is it like that in. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.639 The reverse like when you come to America? Are they 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.360 are they is the Americans just as strict to yours 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.760 as as the UK people are strict to us. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:03.080 I think more strict Americans, and. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.680 We need to hear this. You don't know, like we 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:04.360 think it's Yeah. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.799 I got like even when I'm over here, I'm kind 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.480 of like, right, you know what I'm saying, like because 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.480 none of my man them can come over here, none 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.720 of them. So even the man then will be watching 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:23.720 me over here, like but they're seeing me like around family, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.960 like family, but no one can get over here. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:29.880 I couldn't get here for ten years. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.320 Wow. And was this the same ten years that you 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.960 was bearing from doing shows? Yeah, in the same time. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.240 I didn't even think about that, but yeah at the 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:44.000 same time, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was kind of 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.760 a misunderstandabay, because obviously I had convictions and stuff. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.040 And then I used to come over here. I used 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.720 to like fill in the paper, bro, I know. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:55.920 I did. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.480 I swear to God, I used to because it said 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.960 have you been convicted for more than five years for drugs? 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.000 And I was thinking, I went heil for firearms. That 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:10.080 ain't me, That's what I wought. So I used to 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:16.240 take no, none of the suffer me. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.560 Then then one day I was going to Atlanta and 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.680 then they just said yeah, this way went in the 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.479 room and I was just sitting there for hours and 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.520 then they even they said, yeah, have you been convicted? 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.080 I said yeah, like and then they said, well why 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.200 did you lie here? And I was like, this is 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.440 the apply to me? And then they was like, we're 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.520 not going to argue, don't come back, and then sent 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.279 me back there. Then after that it was ten years, 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.760 like oh wow, I'm back from yeah. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:47.400 And now. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.080 In America, how long did it take for you to 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:57.039 cross over from from the UK market to America? Because like, 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.320 predominantly this is a new thing for us, so right, 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.720 like you know, hip hop has always just been us. 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.039 Then I went to the West coast and then when 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.720 it goes across the pond, were like, holy moly, So 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.039 how long did it take for you to get the 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.800 same respect that you had in the UK in America? 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.599 You know, I couldn't even tell you that because like 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.200 that that's when I was banned. Okay, so like like 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.240 that kind of time in my career. What year was 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:28.000 that's probably in between two thousand and ten to like 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.400 two thousand, I think I came over in COVID. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.360 That's the first time. Yeah. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:37.920 So the iron is I was at them times in COVID. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.440 They locked down the country and they said no one 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:45.160 from England is allowed to come to America in that time, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.000 Well a lot of. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:47.120 Countries couldn't come. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.000 Yeah, okay, yeah, but that was one of the you 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:50.800 know what I'm saying, So. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.800 No one even mad people coming through Mexico, you know 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:55.320 what I'm saying. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.640 They were saying, if you're quarantine. 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.640 In Mexico for two weeks, then you can get to 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.080 a through Mexico. But no one could get over here. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:07.159 And that's when I got my visa back and I've got. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.080 What's the word. It's like a. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.560 Pardon kind of thing to be able to come in COVID. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.560 So the irony is then I was the only english 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.039 person allowed before I used to watch everyone else coming 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.920 over and I was allowed, you know what I mean. 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.640 So that's how God works like. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.679 Crazy during a restricted time, you were yeah. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.960 Yeah, so but yeah, but anyway, what I was saying was, yeah, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.400 so in all that time, like mad things were popping off. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.880 I was doing mad like featured like big collaborations. That 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.839 even that time was when me and Drake just done 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.840 the two tracks of More Life, you know, saying. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:48.480 That's like, that's that's Drake's album. Better. Yeah, I'm saying 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:48.960 them times. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.160 I'm not allowed in America, So I don't even know 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.160 how these songs are popping off. What's popping off if 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.000 people know gigs? So by the time I've come back now, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.000 it's like legend gigs are and I'm thinking, oh yeah, 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.320 oh yeah, no, love, love respect. Even when I linked you, yes, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.800 I remember that, you said he I saw you that, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.200 and I was like, you watched my tic know. 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:19.840 So what I didn't realize this morning because I'm speaking 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:24.920 to Bleak and I go bleek, I gazed, and he 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:29.080 goes ask that, Nigga, is it a burden on that 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.440 shout out? He said, because it's a burden on my 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.760 shot on. Everybody just thinks like, I'm a you know 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.400 what his shoutout is? And then your shoutout is? How 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:38.280 does your shoutout go? 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:38.600 Again? 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:40.600 I see a lot of. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.560 So He's like, man, that was too much pressure on me. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.840 We just saying that to me, and I didn't realize, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:53.120 holy ship, like getting a shout out is a beautiful 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.880 thing and one thing but then he said he sees 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.680 you and him so so bleak is like, man, that's 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:00.400 gotta be a burden. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:01.440 That's is a burden on me. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.680 And I'm thinking like I didn't even think like that, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.320 like like I'm sure, I'm sure there's beautiful part of that, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:12.600 but now this this man them saying you you're supposed 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.520 to be the next hole. That's basically where he implied. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.440 Was that pressure on you at one point or another? 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.240 The next I probably like you remind me, you remind 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:22.120 me of myself. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.480 But you know how you do twist those words and say, yo, 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.000 he sees you and him like whoa Like have you 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.520 ever had like to prove that not? 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:37.679 Yeah, well seeing me like I'm growing up in like 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.400 that dance or hip hop all of that stuff like 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.160 the shower outs and like you know what I'm saying, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.840 like oh yeah me and big so high and now 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.000 it's man's what it's hard enough to get the show from. 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.400 Like that's like, that's that starts like a dream. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.280 Now even if you told me that, like I don't know, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:08:59.680 twenty five years ago. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.280 Yeah, you know, in twenty five years I was going 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.079 to say, you remind me of it, you know, what 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:05.360 I mean. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.839 I like, yeah, my guy, like, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:16.280 So nah, no pressure. I was more like, yeah, bro, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.839 you know what I'm saying, so yeah no never man, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:20.079 and I heard you. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.600 Never really got the explanation where he did say to you, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:23.320 how does it feel? 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.920 Yeah? That ship felt like. 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.520 Yeah, yeah, how. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.520 Does that feel like at the brunch? I'm asking you 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.679 now I'm asking the other obviously, Christian, how did it 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.880 feel like him shot you out out the brunch? 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.440 The whole thing's mud, bro, It's crazy, like because like 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.079 I said, man grew up in it, you know what 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.120 I'm saying. And then like then there was a time 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:51.079 when like England and England English rappers and Americans started 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.600 connecting and then everyone's flying up. Like I saw like 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.400 Crept and Co Nine shooting with French and you know 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.400 what I'm saying. I saw like Chip with Chris Brown 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.520 like and these times I'm just stuck in England watching 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.640 the TV, you know what I'm saying. Like, so like 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.480 fast forward to now, it's just like, yeah. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.199 Man, it's like that time and a lot of change. Yeah, bro, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:23.080 Like I remember me first hearing artist from England, especially 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.680 a hip hop artist from England. People saw say, man, 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.439 they sound funny, right, And now you get to hear 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.720 a lot of English artists and it's like like, I'm 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.439 gonna ask you the question that Big Biggie said, did 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.280 you ever think that English hip hop would make it 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:37.640 this far? 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:40.439 Yeah? I did, man. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.559 Too. Yeah, it had to had to go that way, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.479 you know. But even from early. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.439 Like there was essays as well, right, that was my 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.040 you know what I'm saying, that was open. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:11:00.400 To and from the yes, I'll tell you this, there hell. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.960 A dog there is and they corrupt. Man. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.400 They could wrap and they were using American slang mixed 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:07.479 in with the slang. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.160 So I guess it was a little bit of both. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.600 Yeah, but you know what is it for me? Yeah? 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:17.080 People will say like says wrapped American, Yeah, but they 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.880 wrapped English for English to me. For remember, I'm from 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.240 inc So if someone's putting on a fake American accent, 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.240 I'll be like a straight I don't even want to 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.920 listen to that because it's not you know, but like 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.040 them man were proper wrapping English. But obviously they was 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.480 living over here in it, right, So like even me, 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.400 I'm like half over here, half UK, so I know 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.680 like certain things like you're just going to pronounce different. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.720 We swap over slang, like sometimes like I don't know, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.160 I might be with like Maine or something, and he'll 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.160 be like, yeah, yeah, pattern that pattern, you know what 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.079 I'm saying that, And sometimes I might be like, I 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.880 don't know, Yeah that's a dub, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.840 So we'll both be swapping slang. And that's the only 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:02.640 thing that was really happening to Sasty would be saying 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.600 one or two American or that they might be mentioning 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.320 ends in America or you know what I'm saying. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.440 But yeah, they were cold now. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:11.840 Yeah, and they were hanging out. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:12.920 I used to roll to their. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.200 Thing like when them times man was in the trap 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:17.760 heavy like you know what I'm saying. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.560 They deserve way more credits now they're cold. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.120 They were cold. It was just like you know what 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:22.880 it was with them. 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:24.880 It might have been a little bit ahead of their time. 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.360 There was ahead of their time, and no disrespect to them, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.920 but no one like people didn't really know them like 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.920 that in the streets, you know what I'm saying, Because 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:39.880 remember they've come to America and grew up, they went 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:40.560 school there. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.240 Yeah, I didn't know what they were over here doing. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:43.680 I watched their interviews. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.400 They said they went college and school, so they're not 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.400 going to really be in the streets them times gaining respect, right, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.959 you know what I'm saying, Like, so man, them from 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:53.600 England are. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.959 Like, who are these youths? Maybe man from their ends. 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.839 Might know them, like, oh yeah, they grew up around here, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.760 but you know, I go the streets, needs to know 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.000 the man's thing. So when you say the ends, you 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.120 mean neighborhood. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:06.800 Ends means neighborhood. 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.480 Yeah, neighbor Yeah, like if you if I'm in my hood, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.400 that your hood. You might like even if I go 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.280 back to London, I might say, I'm back on the ends. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.120 If you came back to New York, yeah I'm on 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.559 the ends, you know what I mean? Yeah, I was saying, Yeah, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.079 the ends didn't really know them like that, so they 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.480 couldn't really ride with them, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.079 you know, when you when when that's your guy, you're 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.400 seeing him, you know he's certified in the streets, like this. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.199 Is my god, I've got I've got the full the resume. 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.080 They didn't really have that, so it kind of and 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.160 then they were rappers. They were rappers, yeah, yeah, one 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.199 of them wrong being a rapper. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:48.000 Yeah. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.760 But but but I wouldn't say that like nerds or anything. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:53.840 You know, I'm saying, I don't really know them like that, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:54.920 you know what I mean? 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.920 But yeah, there was there was a different eraror of 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.000 hip hop as well, in terms of it wasn't as 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.040 commercial even back then, right, So there's a there's a 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.000 different era as well. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.960 Yeah, I don't know, I know where hip hop was 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.680 in America then for me. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:19.280 Them times, you know what huge? That's you know that. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.080 But I even yeah, see I heard them in jail. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.200 So I was in jail and I was listening to. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.400 I heard them. They wasn't a Rockefeller, No, I heard 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:29.960 them before that. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:34.320 Okay, they was working because I heard them. I was 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.040 in jail and I heard Westwood. I remember this because 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.040 I remember I was in jail and was eating Met 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.880 Donald's on the radar, and I was thinking, why the 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.120 fuck you eating Met Donald's. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.360 Niggas are in jail hungry? 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.080 I remember that, And I remember you were saying, yeah, congratulations, 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.400 like you did the rock deal, and I was like, 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:51.400 who are these guys. 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.280 That's when I so that's when you were. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.480 Because for me, when when they made it to the rockets, 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.440 to me, I'm like, oh, they they made it out 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.640 of the underground, now okay, to me, they were already 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.200 bubbling on an underground. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.440 And I'm saying this out of ignorance. You had the 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:04.600 white labels or something like that. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.600 Yeah, but anyway to your point them time, I think 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:18.880 things are huge then UK for UK for like American okay, okay, yeah. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:22.840 They were even they was a rockefellera at that time, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.960 were popping. I was like jail right, hell, they. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.600 Was on the diplomat immunity to especially for a UK artist. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.840 For me, I was these man of these man have gone. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.840 Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.120 So do you feel like you was? And I heard 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.080 you heard you get asked this question. I heard you 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.080 humbly answered, but do you feel like you're the O 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.560 G at that new generation of you know, of UK 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:50.120 hip hop? 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:51.880 Yeah, I'm definitely O G. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:56.600 I believe. I believe so too got that because before me, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:01.040 they weren't really like hip hop UK mainstream like that 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.960 like well street gas, the rap like you know what 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.800 I'm saying. It wasn't there was like there was hip 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.640 hop like and there was the underground as well. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.040 So I came from obviously the. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:17.000 Underground UK rap with UK accents and street niggas and 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.200 gang gang bangers and you know what I'm saying, that 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.520 was that era. There was still hip hop before it, 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:28.200 like there might have been like Colashal cough and even 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:29.200 before that, like. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:31.640 I can't remember them. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:33.760 There's an artist Nam Klasnic cough. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.280 Yeah, it was cold. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.920 But there was like they're gonna they're gonna be upsetting 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:44.560 that because it's. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.280 A big drink chap. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.240 There was that man before that, you know what I'm 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.760 saying like that, but it was that backpack kind of rap. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.240 You know what I'm saying about us Man was the 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:58.119 streets and then then obviously that man took it mainstream 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.400 like me, you know what I'm saying like, so it 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.320 kind of starts with man. 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.520 Okay, I mean, man means me. Yeah. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.200 Do you think do you think baby Baby was one 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.640 of your first mainstream records. 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:14.080 Like that Baby? Yeah? Hell no. I was wait, okay 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.040 talking the hardest, Okay, no. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:20.000 Talking, I got said my notes to alright, cool talking, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.320 the hardest, hooking, the hardest. Let me tell you what 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:23.560 I noticed about that. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.560 You rhymed everything with ry the only thing you've left 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.760 that was Nori. I was waiting for my shoutout. I 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.119 was like, you got story. Everything is song? Is that 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:34.720 what are you talking? 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.240 I'm talking the hardest, took the hardest, that's. 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.080 The right y Yeah yeah yeah, holding up, hold on up. 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:47.680 They can tell you a story. Yeah yeah, y. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:59.280 I'm like, yo, my kid is coming to thought about 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.159 like damn y' he everything, Like, I'm gonna take some 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.040 of these lines, but let's talk talking the hardest. You 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.679 think that was your your your person out of the 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:12.879 first like because them times before talking artists, we didn't 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:17.480 hear no like UK gangster rap in no parties. 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:18.920 Wow, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.560 You just hear like even in the UK, in the UK, Wow, 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:23.160 that's what I meant. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:23.760 Yeah, UK. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.320 Even when someone had told me they had talking at 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.480 this like a right, I didn't even take it serious. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.720 I mean so like yeah that like so yeah, that 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.919 was like that's that's kind of why it's the national anthem. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.000 They called it the UK National Anthem. What I mean? 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.119 I was like, yeah, that's dope. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.240 Our show was about giving people flowers. Well they can 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.280 smell them. They thought us what they can tell them. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.760 They drinks while they can drink them, and they suppose 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:50.280 what they think. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:55.640 We need to give your flowers face to face. Man, snoops, 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.280 that is better than the grammy because it comes from 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:57.680 your people. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.520 You know what I'm saying. God damn So we wanted 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.400 to give you your flowers. God damn it, you got 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.080 silk coverings. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:18.359 O take some longer though, showing over Gigs, that's crazy. 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.240 I might as well just give Drain his birthday. And 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:21.320 he's from London, that's why. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:22.760 Yeah, the brother. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.400 He's one from yeah from yeah, my boy, my boy 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:34.280 right here, he's from northern yeah yeah, and it's his birthday, Gigs. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.000 I said, where he from in London? We need to 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:38.280 really know where are you from? 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:39.440 Well? 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.240 Where are you laying? Yeah? 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.520 Okay, okay, yeah, come here, Okay, so how long have you 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:47.800 been here? 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:49.560 He been to high school with me, so he's been here. 0:19:49.880 --> 0:20:00.480 Yeah yeah, I can still head yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:02.800 So you're grabbing Miami. 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:08.440 Yeah ninety one and down ninety ninety school. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.919 Okay, okay, but you're from Miami. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.720 And originally l A but brazing Miami. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:21.000 Yeah yeah, I mean Miami's like, Miami's like that. It's like, well, 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:25.160 New York's proper like, but like still sometimes I still 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.800 got to like dumb it down when I talked yeah 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.359 by here in Miami, yeah, because it's like more Caribbean. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.119 I just talked normal here kind of thing. 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:35.760 Every accent. 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.920 You can come to queens too. It's like that you 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:45.280 got every accent. Yeah, so queen, that's a yeah. So 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:50.640 is it shatter clock or yet? Let's go okay, okay, cool, 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.680 got the okay, the light up? Okay, and you wrote 0:20:54.680 --> 0:21:00.520 a real splip that's like a real bat month splip. Yeah. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:05.040 But you're originally from Africa though, right, No, No, I'm 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:09.480 half Jamaican, quarter Guyanese and Grenadan. 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.840 Okay, okay, you're West India. 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.879 I'm like when everyone came over the boat, there's no 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:23.560 condoms and everyone my kind of age has got like 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.639 fifteen brothers, and I can tell that's when everyone was 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:28.280 just running around. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.280 What we're in lucky, I mean. 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.159 Okay, so let me ask you a question that's very caustious. 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.480 Versuy on drink camps, do you eat doubles. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.160 Like from Trinida? Yeah? 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.400 You know what, I actually haven't tasted doubles. Oh okay, okay, 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:50.760 that's the matter. Yeah that in Yeah, she haven't had 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:51.520 a double before. 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.960 Yeah. I actually get a lot of education about the 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.200 Caribbean when I come here. 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:02.000 Okay, okay, even like Dominicans and like because you're Dominican. 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.000 Porto Weekly poor, Yeah, we like to one's a little 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:05.320 bit better. 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:14.359 So we have American we have American money. 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.959 Because I want to go ahead to Dominican report. If 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:25.240 it's just got American. 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:30.520 Monem Dominicans, ye, don't worry about it. Don't worry. 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.840 But even so even before because we don't really in London, 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:40.200 we don't really have like Porto Ricans and Dominicans like Ubans, yeah, 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.639 but not a lot. Yes, it's more like Spain, you 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:44.560 know what I'm saying. So even like those are the 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:48.120 racist Latinos, just so you know, going it out there. Yeah, 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.160 when I come here, and they better than every other Latino. 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:56.640 Sorry bad Spain Spanish people, Spain people. I'm sorry, Yeah, 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:00.240 I ain't say that Argentinas. So even I'm remember I 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.560 used to watch that paid them for yeah, and I 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.640 saw you and paid them for you. And then there 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:09.520 was that part when they said, yeah that when they said, yeah, the. 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:10.960 Spanish kids said it. 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.280 I used to rewind that part one hundred times, like 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:18.280 where's the Spanish guy, I'm just Spanish. I'm just thinking 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.520 white persons, but I'm not so rewinding it and I say, 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.960 it's so many Norri here. Yeah. 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.320 So I even used to rewind it back like before 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:40.280 with the jail because I was describing. I'm thinking I'm 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.719 missed something like you know what I mean. And then 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:44.480 when I come here, that's when I started saying that 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.760 Dominicans and I was seeing raw like it's just Caribbeans 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:54.040 when he speaks Spanish, you know, So it's actually Dominicans 0:23:54.040 --> 0:24:01.760 are like Porto Ricans Like no, no, I'm saying you 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:05.880 kind of like the advanced Caribbeans, right because you've got 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:11.359 like Jamaica, like yeah, but you know, idea only how 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.160 to speak Spanish, so you're kind of advanced man because 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:18.720 island Cuba, come on, yeah cue, but because because everyone 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:20.960 speaks Spanish, we forget your Caribbean. 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.680 You know. That's well, yes, even. 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.040 I got bridges from like Honduras and I ain't seen 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:32.760 dark skinned Spanish people before. That's mad, Like I'm like raw, 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.480 like you speak Spanish and your thoughts. 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:36.680 You know what I'm saying. 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:43.399 So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been a big like 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.400 education coming here as well. You know, I'm saying it's 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.560 the different cultures and that you mean. 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.919 Hell yeah, so ready for quick Thomas, let's go. Okay, 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:53.320 what's playing the rules. 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.439 We're gonna give you two choices. If you pick one, 0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.680 we don't drink. But if you say both, are neither 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.960 we drinking? Uh you've you've seen this. 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.439 Yeah, I'm not really like you know, harder. 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.520 Yeah, you go like shots, we go like shots, yeah, 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:11.639 like shots. 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.000 Yeah, all right, I wanted to do the first one, 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.960 but it's not going to be this first one, the 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:17.320 first two, but it's not gonna be. 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.119 So what we're doing shots of the ross class whatever 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.760 you want? What's this call again that mama? Yeah, this 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:31.320 is the matter. 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.000 This is the Dominican joint right there. 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:42.600 Yeah, okay, Nando's or Carbones? 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.119 Yeah no, I say carbone, carbone, okay, thank you. 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.960 Yeah, that's two different things though, Yeah, that's what that was. 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.120 Just like you're saying, like, that's like you're saying carbone 0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:57.840 or Chick fil A. 0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:07.400 Yeah, you know what I'm saying that it's two different Yeah, Tupac, 0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:12.080 d m X, piece of both. 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.000 That's two different. It's two different. 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.040 I feel like generations kind of. 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.640 It's whatever for you, like just whatever criteria you pick. 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:24.919 It's no. I wouldn't compare. 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:26.840 UK Nigga still. 0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:30.040 Is universal. 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:35.440 Let me get up like still like universe just American Jesus, 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.000 you picked then big part that has to be Okay, 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.840 that's o g like in that in that situation, right 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.360 like packer or flipping. 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.639 I don't know that, snoop Orsa. 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.760 I know fucking you know what I mean, but I 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.840 can't packing DMX, even though d MS is the legend 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:56.000 year as well. 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.320 But that's packed, like you know. 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:04.400 You the next one too, Slick Ricord Biggie, these questions 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:05.200 that make said. 0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.920 Supposed to the Dominican and the Columbia. 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.679 I would have to say, I need U, k okay, Oh. 0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.159 You're on the album, man, we gotta talk about the 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:20.040 all right album? Yeah? Well really I didn't know that 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:25.119 Slick with just send me that is custom Wallabeest. 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.600 That's a good album. Yeah, that's dope. 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.400 West Side Gun or Conway. 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:36.200 West Side Got that's my Brad Conway is He's too 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.920 cold though, man, Okay, I'll say all. 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:43.280 Right, this one right here, very controversial. I do not 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.840 I do not know where you're going with this. By 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.240 the way, we don't write these questions Dominican and Columbian 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:50.800 over there, they sniff cocaine and write. 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.159 It's just it's just the way it happens. 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:57.560 Drake or Kendrick Lamar. 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.480 I gotta say Drizzy, Okay, that was the safe answer. 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:09.640 Yes, no, right hand. No, not even that. I rode 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.919 to Drizzy. Okay, you know Kendrick is gonna buy us. 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.600 But like if I'm jumping in the way the gallery 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.560 in the car my slaph on, you know what I'm 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:21.440 saying that drizzy, but you get me. 0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:22.480 That's the vibes. 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:28.320 But you see how Kendrick Lamar was caught at a 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.960 I mean, Lebron James was caught out of Kendrick Lamar 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:37.080 and Drakes a certain thing. Would you what would you 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:38.760 think that you could go to Kendrick Lamar and you 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:39.600 still be cool. 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.440 Car check it out. Yeah, I could go there. 0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:54.640 I'm not gonna jump from stage to them like, man, 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:59.320 I'm not gonna I'm a fan of Kendrick saying yeah. 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:01.480 I'm not gonna say nah. 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:03.440 If I said yeah, come me real, kender, I'm not 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.160 gonna say nah, you know what I mean. 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.800 I think our coature needs to stop that because like 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.560 I feel like if I like pustachio ice cream and 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.040 just one and one day I want chocolate, Like why 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.480 why I can't like both? Like why why does our 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.080 coulture make us? Like why do make they make us 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.080 choose between Knaves and Jay like like I like them both, 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:22.720 Like you know what I'm saying, Like you know what 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.520 I mean, Like I like I like do say and 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.600 I like age s grade Like why wouldn't I be 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.200 able to you know what I'm saying. 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.360 There's too much music for that or that to pick 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.320 one a all that, Like just think about hip hop. 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:37.920 You know what I'm saying. 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:42.760 There's so much music right, so much events, so much 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.080 things has happened, you know what I'm saying, Like I 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.200 can't just like yeah, I just like I'm just fucking 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.880 with that, Like you know what I'm saying me, Yeah, 0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.920 hell no, hell no n w A or w tang 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.560 W Like we're tying the go spot. That's the man 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:04.160 next the Batman team. You know what I'm saying, that's 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.080 real Booju or Beanie. 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:14.320 That's two different which is the Gold hundred. But b 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:19.240 that's my guy, is the that's the original. 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:25.400 You are you be honest with serious central seer, skeptic skepto. 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:29.400 Of course that's og. You know what I mean? 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:31.520 Mob deeper m o p. 0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:41.440 Yeah, more deep, more deep. 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.800 So yeah, I feel like they thought more in it 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.960 deep you know what I mean? A piece cold yeah yeah, 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:52.520 top boy super so. 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:59.040 Yeah, that's what my doing. Stell and we just drink. 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:07.440 I'll drink, let's go top Bay. 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.360 I would have to say top because that's the original. No, no, no, 0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.520 I'll say both because top where that's the original. That's 0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:21.640 what that's what's got even like America knowing about London 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.560 as well, super Cell Like me, I'm a nerd. I 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.000 love like Superhero, X, Men, Avengers. 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.040 That's my that's my thing. So you've got like the. 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.000 Streets, like the London streets as well. And it was 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:39.320 raw slang with superpowers. That's the maddest thing at got 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.880 to But I'll just drink cool yeah, because top Boy, 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.240 it was like wait a minute. We looked at that. 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.520 It was like wait a minute, they're going crazy out there. 0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:47.800 It was like the British wire. 0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.800 Yeah, we thought you just had That's what it was 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:56.240 meant to be originally. Yeah, that's why it always goes 0:31:56.320 --> 0:32:01.200 wrong when American artists come to London. Yeah, they think 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.800 it's nice. That's like the Knives, that's like the kids, 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.000 you know what I mean. But obviously, and now it's 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.120 social media, so they just make it bigger than it is, 0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.880 like you know, yeah, but now it's the goddamn saying 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.640 it's been the same. Yeah, oh yeah, social media. 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:19.160 We can see this. 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.720 Yeah, yeah, yes, okay, vibes Cartel or. 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.280 Yeah, Carto, that's my guy, Like Cartoon is the greatest. 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:29.480 He's wrong. 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.920 I think Carto is the best, like any genre, like 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.320 hip hop forever, damn, let's. 0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:37.720 Make you noise. 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:41.520 He said that. You think I'm crazy? 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.239 No, no, no, I don't think crazy. I just never 0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:44.120 heard anybody say. 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:45.600 That it's the best. 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:49.560 Bro Like, I think the only person who could in 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.240 hip hop who could go see if Carto was on smoke, 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.040 Like yeah, I'm gonna go student and smoke this song. 0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.800 I don't think no one could chat to him. The 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.680 only person who could probably go head to is probably 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:04.480 like Eminem song. 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.280 Wow, imagine that track. 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:11.920 Yeah, I've seen cartol smoke wrappers, dancel artists. Yeah, he 0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.120 could smokes anything, like. 0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.800 You know what I mean, Like, yeah, he's versus like 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:17.360 he could. 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:21.560 Go any any style flow the coldest. 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.600 Yeah, Peckham or Brixton. 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.360 I'm from Peckham. Okay, yea Brickston certified. 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:37.240 That's brig is like the Bronx Andhams like Brooklyn. 0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.680 Okay is that that kind of Yeah? I mean and 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.680 then East London West from East East is like reminds 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.000 me of like Harlow and then and then west kind 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.560 of No, East reminds you of Queens. East reminds you 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:55.680 of Queens because and then West reminds me of Harlem. 0:33:55.840 --> 0:34:02.440 Okay, Okay. Shava or super Cat, that's a that's a 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:07.720 tough one. Legends, Supercut, we need both of them. Are drinking, Yeah, 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:14.400 I drink drink Yeah, super Cat used to live a 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:20.160 left right Well yeah, I might say Shaper though might 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.440 be taking another shop Shap. 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.440 Wouldn't Sho be the o G in that situation? 0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.759 No? Really, not really, He's not the same kind of 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.080 time Shap, super the same kind of time like. 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.520 Shamo would be at least a few years and they. 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:38.319 Even clashed, did no, No, I think they did. 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:39.200 They did. 0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:40.680 I never heard of a class that they did. 0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:44.719 They did. Yeah, I think, I think. 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:49.960 I think I'll say Shabo because Shabo lived longer, like 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.719 he was still making bangers right right right, you know 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:57.799 that was even like when he did he come back 0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:02.000 and beer got big guy he ca joints. Yeah, he 0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:06.759 got saying. So I'll say still supercuts the goat. 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:10.360 Yeah about. 0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:19.080 Storms is a Canu stone cano for sure, that cano 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.240 is a goat, like you know what I mean? Stones, 0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.120 He is cold though, Stones. You can sign up with 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.719 the goats so that he can he can go to 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.920 to toe with the goats, you know what I mean. 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:35.000 B o b or a boogie mm hmm a boogie. 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:38.480 Estelle or adele. 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:40.879 Mm hmm. 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.279 And still is the family but adel Ale, But that's 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.799 too different. That's totally shipping. 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:57.480 These guys just wanted to to British people in branch. Yeah, 0:35:58.200 --> 0:35:59.520 they might throw in the Beatles legs. 0:35:59.560 --> 0:35:59.840 I don't know. 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.240 There was a coach by two different things. I wouldn't, 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:05.759 you know what I mean? 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:11.960 So what so what's the answer, Yeah, okay, uh DJ 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:18.000 Premiere Pete Rock mhm, it's gotta be Premier. 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:22.799 Jay Z or Big daddy came. 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:31.000 I say, big daddy came. That's that's that's the geez. 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:32.479 You know what I'm saying. 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:38.839 You know, I mean, okay, Jada kiss ther Nos, Yeah 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.200 I kissed so there. Now we have to change this 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:46.719 game where if you answer you drinking okay, you know what. 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.320 A lot of obviously a lot of guests that you 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.680 have up here have got relationship. 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.640 I'm not gonna want to say for me, I'm clear 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:58.440 on on the history. You know what I'm saying, history 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.840 like forgot kiss. 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.600 Its still going like the now I just heard them 0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.200 a eating that's a mad tea. How many years are 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:14.360 we talking about? It's ridiculous. Yeah, ninety six. That's my 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.680 bro Rockefeller of rough Riders. 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:23.320 Ah no, it's not a shot. You know why. I 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.640 know why. Let me tell you this way is here, 0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:33.880 this way is yeah, that's not even no, no, this 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:39.160 is why this way it is even like even yeah, 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.640 I'm just going to be like even even kissy wouldn't 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.879 be happier. I don't know. This is so that time. 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:49.920 Yeah, so like my brethren there was all from like Warfrow, 0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.239 that's in South London. We're from Peckham, Warfrow, Peckham, but 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.239 all the warthrow man then they used to be Rockefeller, yeah, 0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:58.240 and all. 0:37:58.160 --> 0:37:58.719 The pecker Man. 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:00.680 It was like rough Rider was like you know what 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:05.439 I'm saying, like d M X peoples and all that. Yeah, 0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.920 so then yeah those peoples so like we were. So 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.560 then then then the war started the clash with the 0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:16.120 rock and. 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:20.120 Rough Riders and that. Yeah. 0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.880 So then obviously, like I think the first one was 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:28.120 that the it was like the kissing and and fat Joe. 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.920 Is that the kiss and fat Joe sound? No, No, 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.960 I'm saying like it's kind of like a subliminal and 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.719 man was saying anyway, I don't know if that's true. 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:42.600 And then obviously there was the kiss and put your 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:43.160 hands up. 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.520 Then then segu came with the mad thing like that 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:51.759 was That's what Sea came with, brow that was mad. 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:53.839 Even that that was so mad. 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:56.239 I didn't even want to see no one from war 0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.880 through until I heard kiss as I was that's like me, 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:01.960 I'm a music, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:03.960 don't want to see none of these men. For them 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.520 to talk about the seagull thing, because I know Seagull 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.920 smoked that like talking about kicking the bull out of 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.840 the park and you know what I mean. Then after 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.440 so I'm waiting for Kiss. Then Kiss came back on 0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:18.120 the disco beat thing and that was cool and that, 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.080 but after you know what I'm saying, after that Seaguel, 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:24.880 that was you know what I mean. So I'm like, 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:26.799 this is all right, Kiss going to bring another one. 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.400 Then Seagull came straight back again straight after with the 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.880 fucking on the special delivery free start when they went 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.480 on radio and that remember the speculations, No, no, there 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.440 weren't that one. Remember the special delivery free style and 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.680 it's just smoking them kiss thee on the holiday remember 0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:52.400 that got So this is two now, I'm like, fucking ship. 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:58.200 So that Seagull kind of won that, Like who'd you 0:39:58.280 --> 0:39:59.719 say that kissing seagull thing? 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:06.600 Uh, I don't know, I'm a sick a shot. I mean, 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.960 it became more than that. It was stay proper against 0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:10.080 you know the locks. 0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.719 No, no, but I'm talking Kiss and Beanie Seagull, right, 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.160 because there was where the headhorn chosen. Obviously, stars when 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.880 stars come in, stars went kind of mad, remember stars 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:24.880 like kicking fucking doors off, and you know what it was. 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.279 It was a different back but kiss and you know, 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:28.960 I say, yeah, so yeah it was more than that. 0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:35.800 But them times I could have admit, like kiss that Seagull. 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.399 Took hit me like because your side was rough. 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:40.520 Yeah I was rough rider, but I don't know that 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.600 maybe twenty years there, I said, seagull kind of took that. 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.120 I told the mad one to get me. So I'm 0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.520 I just wanted to show the homage for like the 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.400 Rock and that, but man's rough riders, like you know. 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.160 Did you hear? I don't know if this is true, 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:56.840 Beanie Seagull new ship. 0:40:56.719 --> 0:41:01.680 With Ai no with the voice, and she sounds great 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.040 and in that case, Ai is fucking dope. 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:09.320 Yeah, actually liked some of the with the with the 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:14.560 new voice as well. It still sounds cold like I 0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.480 thought I was coold, but yeah, bottom lying. 0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:22.360 Yeah, rough Riders, Okay, Damian Molly or Sean Paul give me. 0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:23.000 The life. 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:30.080 You kind of going? I felt like two different things. 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:34.840 But I'll say Sean Porter shompaols really do you know 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.560 why I'll say shampoo because like Sean Paul has grinded, 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.800 Like remember I remember when he used to be like 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:46.000 dotty Cup, remember, yeah, like it was like Luga man 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:50.160 and and Shompaul could always that proper spit, you know 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.239 what I'm saying, Like he could he darts away, he 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:53.600 could spit, you. 0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:54.120 Know what I'm saying. 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:58.520 And then obviously he's probably took it the most serious 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.000 and then he's taking it to the crazy levels, you 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:03.920 know what I'm saying. Like, so Man's got a lot 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:08.640 of respect for shoomp Pool yet me. But obviously Damian 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:13.239 Marley's gone. That's that, you know what I'm saying. I'll say, 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:17.000 for how hard shoomp Pools were, and he's quod spit, I'll. 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:17.600 Say shooting pool. 0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:18.879 He's got a crazy cattle. 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:20.120 Yeah, he's got a colo. 0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:23.880 So you said Sean Paul, Yeah, I say shoot. 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.480 Boys in the hood, boys in the hood or minister Society. 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:44.600 I take a shot. Okay, Oh Man cheers h l a, 0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:56.120 oh Miami mm hmmm, I like Miami in her for 0:42:56.320 --> 0:43:00.600 real or Kanye mm hmm. 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.520 That's a tough one. What are you talking about that 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:11.600 he's gonna. 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:20.719 Say that whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could take a 0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:21.800 bag of beach just beats. 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:22.440 Yeah. 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:27.280 So that's a weird one. So you only gets weirder, 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:34.000 I was, I was, Yeah, I'll just take the shot. 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:40.200 Man, I don't know. I don't know, you know what 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.719 what I wanted to know. I was watching the phar 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:47.200 Real documentary in it and then it was talking about 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:52.480 when you look made super fucking yeah, we say funking it. 0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:53.560 That's how different. 0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.719 So yeah, but he was telling the story cold, but 0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.400 you know, the only But I was thinking, like I 0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.080 wanted to know, like he told the whole suit, but 0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:09.359 then tell the bit like when it was in the Philippines, 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:13.120 You're in the mansion, you know, So I was thinking, 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.600 what was how did you think cut that bit? 0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:18.439 Was it not true? 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.520 Like you know, you know what I'm saying already on 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.800 the track that was already I'm actually be honest with you. 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:29.000 I never paid attention to that part, bro, that's. 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:30.759 I know. 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.759 Yeah. But once the beat drop, I was like, that 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:34.040 was it? 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.319 He said like Noriega, and I. 0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:39.920 Was like, all right, that's the first time I heard 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.040 somebody make a beat. 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:42.160 For me using my name. 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:44.000 But it wasn't that. 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.400 It was like, once that sound dropping, I said that, 0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.759 I was just like, oh, I need, I need to 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:55.279 play with this. And I knew that was a different sound. 0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.600 And I know I sound like a genius now, but 0:44:57.719 --> 0:44:59.480 I swear to god, I knew that ship then, you 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.479 know what I mean, I was just like all right cool, 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.920 And like I said, I wrote the whole rhyme right 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.080 there in the Kent Hotel and I flew back the 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.080 next day and I went to a studio called Right 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.799 Track Recording Studio on forty eighth Street, and I laid 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:13.439 the whole ship. 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:18.520 That's one track. That's one whole track, one take, one take. 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:18.759 Yeah. 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:19.919 I didn't know because well. 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:21.080 I didn't know how to. I didn't know how to 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.040 punch it. That's what he says. 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.080 That's why I always say it wasn't even I was 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.400 at the time, what what what what? Okay? 0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:30.920 One? 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:31.360 What what? 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:31.600 What? 0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:32.320 What? What? What? What? 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:34.360 I didn't know how to do. All I want to 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:36.160 do is right wrap And but. 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.799 That is you still kind of I'm still calling still yeah, 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:40.680 because I'm saying. 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:41.920 That it's just in the future with it. 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:50.480 Anversity still counted its structured correctly. You know, rella kept 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:54.160 that you know it was for genius one that yeah, 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.520 he took the ones out if the original hook is 0:45:58.520 --> 0:45:59.719 going to say one on there. 0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:04.160 Yeah, So like I don't even know how you kept 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:04.920 me on beat. 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.359 Like I've never asked him that question, and I've never 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:08.240 asked him about. 0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:08.839 The the intro. 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.040 Neither like a gonna lie. 0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.480 We just said that just now, like twenty seven years later, 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:13.440 kind of. 0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:20.480 Id that you never lied. That's because basically I'm just 0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:21.520 never gonna know what. 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:23.920 Wait, did I never act? I say, it's good that 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:28.560 you never lied. Yeah, no, yeah, because you know what happened. 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:33.120 Yeah, I know not to take it. 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.160 You're kind to remember that part. Like if we're not 0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.319 perform it, I go straight into the wood my mother 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:42.799 for the last twenty years. That shit doesn't even exist. Yeah, 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:44.720 by the way, it's crazy. 0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:48.800 It starts from yeah and then he goes to Philippines 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:49.120 or whatever. 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.400 But my performance it goes what what what? 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.560 So we don't we take that ship out? Okay? So 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.480 like so you don't even put that in the show? 0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.080 In the show kind of fucking me up. 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.000 If I went to the live show and I heard that, 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.680 because I've never seen that, right right right, right right, No, 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.640 But I went to the lift shot and I didn't 0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.479 hear you in the Philip because that's. 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.520 The bit where you're that's the bit where you're wking. 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:16.440 Now it's you know what I'm saying REI when I performing, 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.600 I'm performing near the end of the show, like already 0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:21.120 I want to jump in, Yeah. 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.520 I want me to jump in. That's not fa Like, yeah, 0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:24.320 that's not fash. 0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.600 And it's like as soon as you hit the helicopters, 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:36.239 your subconsciously you heard the intro in your mind. You 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.680 But those people like like Swiss to this day always 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:43.560 says to me, yo, you know you never let the 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.120 beat drop from bad being crazy. It's like, no one 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.080 actually knows that that's the first loop, that beat beat. 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:53.680 It's not there, not the beat. So it's like, yeah, 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:59.080 the whole sun mastered it that she's still twenty seven 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.879 years like your music a movie, a movie, bro. 0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:05.160 Shot for that. 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:07.319 Hold on, we'll get right back. 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.919 But the fun fact about the Philippines thing, his DJ 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.879 now is from the Philipps DJ is, but he wasn't 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:14.359 that year. 0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:18.279 Yeah, I didn't meet up to that same exact year. 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.759 So you got to do it where he says the Philippines, 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:22.160 I've never thought about it. 0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.680 I tell you, this is the first time. That's that's important. 0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.760 Let's do that, Okay, podcast or radio. 0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.040 It's the same, it's the same for me, to be honest. Yeah, 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:37.280 that's the same ship. 0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.759 Were drinking because it's both Okay, yeah, man, I. 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:44.440 Mean what's the difference really, what's. 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:47.399 Long form and one is radio based, one is music based, 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.320 and one is we can do this on radio because 0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:54.320 it's long form, you can't do on radio short conversations 0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:55.879 between radio. 0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:58.320 I guess you know. Yeah, let me get that. 0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:02.480 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, got you Okay, you ready, don't 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:05.560 scar face? Oh no, no no no, he said both Okay, 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.279 my bad, and you gotta get this one anyway. I 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:15.680 just realized what it says, cheers the heavenly socky is nice. 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:23.040 That drinks nice too, heavenly sky sake. Yeah that And 0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.680 I ain't even a sucky guy. I wasn't. 0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:29.960 He turned me out boss kind. 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:33.760 I kind of listened to what anything said sad period 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.920 like could be like, listen, man, We're gonna walk to 0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:41.160 the top of the mountain and talk to a Chinese 0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:46.440 monk and rub our beads and we must we must 0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:48.840 not have on those socks. And I'm gonna be like, 0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:52.400 let's go Rizz like he's been proving that he's the abbot, 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.919 so he's he told us that this soul. 0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.600 Right, let's go Scarface or ice Cube. 0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.719 Cute man, that's my guy. Yeah, that's the cue that 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.960 that's the for me, that's the main guy. He was 0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.160 one of my favorite scar is a go to Scarface 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.919 is code w A and and everything. I didn't even think. 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:19.400 You can't even ask me about anyone against them n 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:25.359 w A. You know what I'm saying, Scarfaces code. 0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:27.000 You know it's crazy. 0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.440 And I know I'm a little off subject, but still 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:31.040 on subject. 0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:33.800 I really kind of realized that, I know we spoke 0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:38.200 about this before that Scarface made the Fix, like like 0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:41.640 that was a classic album made recently, Like that. 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.399 Was in the last ten years, right, No, no, now 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.080 more than ten years. But I mean I was on 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:48.600 with him. 0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:54.600 Yeah, I was on classic, classic, classic albums of a 0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.400 legend that came before me. That I was actually on 0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.440 the same label with him. I just thought about that 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:00.640 the other day, you know what I mean? 0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:07.480 Okay, last one I got one time London or Kingston, London. 0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:08.240 I'm from London. 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:09.799 I just wanted to. 0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:18.200 But London is my ends, the last one, last one. 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.160 Loyalty or respect. 0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:31.680 Loyal t Okay, respect, that's the s Yeah, I respect him. 0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.600 He's going to be loyal. Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:41.040 I respect that. No, take a shot. I mean cool. 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:50.480 So now, how the hell and where was you at 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.799 when you get a call and they say, the man Dim, 0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:59.440 the light Skinned God, the six God wants to work 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.480 with you. And did you tell do you hang up 0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:03.880 on these people that ship the podcast? 0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:06.160 You like? 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.080 Of course, and of course he wants to work with me, 0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:11.160 But how did this happen when you get the call? 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:17.000 If I'm honest, this is honesty. Like I remember I 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:20.720 was making my album The Landlord, Yes, called the Landlord. 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:25.320 So I was making this album and then I remember 0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.480 I was making the track called whipping that Skirts and 0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:28.960 you get. 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:30.000 Me, Yeah, I got that in my notes. 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:34.000 Yeah okay, And I was and I was saying something 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:37.440 like missus in the crib, you know, I'm keeping up 0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:40.399 photo and we don't take pictures, you know, I'm keeping 0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:42.319 up personal like you know. 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:43.479 Like them kind of days. 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:47.520 I weren't really posting no women or girl friends are 0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.040 So that was like for the mandem, like you know 0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:51.800 what I'm saying, Like you know, like the girl's like 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:52.759 what do you post me? 0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:54.000 You know what I'm saying? 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.160 That that was for us, like keep opening. 0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.840 Yeah, this part is cold and you know that you 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:03.680 you can you can see Drake loves women, Like I said, 0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:06.239 that's so called. Drake's going to hit me up personally 0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:11.800 about that one. Then I dropped Landlord and then like 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:16.040 it started ringing off and then then Drake d m me, 0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:18.759 you haven't you haven't met I ain't even met Hi 0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:20.279 or not, and then he d m me said Yo, 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.480 that Landlord things mud you get me like and then yeah, 0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:27.680 then we just said yeah, man, I got a banger still, 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.400 like I wanted to send it over, like, what do 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:32.799 you reckon? I could this is you saying he's saying 0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:34.440 that to me, saying that to you, He's saying, yeah, 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:36.840 I got this, I got this, I got this tune. 0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:38.560 So I wanted to send it over, will you reckon? 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:39.200 Can I send it? 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:45.960 And I was thinking, yeah, where I was I was, 0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.480 I was just in some car parties. There's a restaurant 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:53.400 there called Harvester in London, so I was in a 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.239 Harvester car park just waiting for food. And then yeah, 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:58.480 I just see that DM like and I was like 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:04.200 Trizzy that Yeah, these times that Dizzy weren't really like. 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:07.920 You know what I'm tying? You know, when it was 0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.359 that mysterious, that kind of time. 0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:12.320 Yeah, me, like, did you have to look back and 0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:14.760 make sure the blue check was there one hundred percent? 0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:30.400 I was like I looked at that few Can I 0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:32.640 send you these times? 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:36.959 Like you're not hearing You've heard every Drizzy tune? 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:37.880 There is the hair in it. 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.919 You know, there weren't no leaks, you know what I'm saying, 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.320 Like it was this was that an exclusive Drizzy in 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:46.839 my phone? You know what I'm saying. At that time, 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.160 I was a math thing, but yeah, that's crazy and 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:52.359 they were both his records. Yeah, so then I've done 0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:55.399 that first one, the no Long Talked one, and then 0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.880 then he hit me about the He sent me km T. 0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.920 It was Christmas t yeah, and it was like yeah 0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:03.719 what he said? 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:04.919 What to or more life? 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:05.200 Yeah? 0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:08.000 Yeah, and then he sent me k m T. 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:13.359 Yeah, I said famous Christmas said it said the rest 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:14.400 even on Christmas. 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:22.560 Yeah, that's from Christmas and yah only don't celebrate Christmas 0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:28.280 in London. Celebrate we know, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving. 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:34.719 Thanksgiving? O't my bad like your life, that's our independence 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:45.600 from us. Last year it was my first fourth of 0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:49.840 July here. Yeah, yeah, that was a vibe. Still my 0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:51.440 son was out here, and you know what I. 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.000 Mean, it's crazy. 0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:58.120 So do you do? Do you are? 0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:00.279 You're making a new album now? 0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:01.280 Just making bangs. 0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:04.680 I'm just making veangals, laughing them out like is Dick? 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:08.680 Can we project that Drizzy might be on your new ship? 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.840 Oh yeah, I mean I just cook like okay, you 0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:14.640 know what I'm saying. I got bad. 0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:19.320 I've always got sign okay from somewhere like okay, but 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:22.680 then there's me, you know what I mean. Okay, let 0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:28.800 me ask you. God comes down right now, Giggs. 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:34.880 You get to pick one producer and one artist, and 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:36.680 this record is gonna save humanity. 0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:41.399 It's gonna stop World War three. 0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:43.399 It looks like we had it towards there. 0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:48.080 Who are you picking what artists and what producer? 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:50.399 Well? 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.239 I could do you one, but probably need to. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:53.200 Okay, let me. 0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:55.719 We're gonna give you if you take a shot, you two. 0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:57.840 Now, I'll just have not because it's the same thinger 0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:01.760 in it. That's easy. Just it would be Dre okay, 0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:03.799 and I'll just bring Hove in to right the US. 0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.799 Okay. You know what I'm saying, doctor Dre. And yeah, 0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:12.839 d you said d you said Drake makes the beat 0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:19.160 and whole writes the verse for for Dre. Okay, your weight. 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:20.360 You want to that was. 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:27.760 That's because Drake gets to to be on the production 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:29.240 and he gets to be the feature. 0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:30.479 Oh I need that's the trick. 0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:30.680 That was. 0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:32.200 That's what he said, I need to do. 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:36.560 Yes, that was true, and that's the go. That's the 0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:37.640 biggest Dre. 0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:39.840 He's a big n w A fan. 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:44.480 Yes, he's the biggest. No, nah no, but I do 0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:47.800 see the correlation of it. That's a big w A. 0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:50.080 I'm a bigger the n w A fan. But I 0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:52.640 think he got me. Yeah, make it out of here. 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:56.840 You're not a bigger w A fan. I told you 0:57:56.960 --> 0:57:57.680 to have me scared. 0:57:57.800 --> 0:57:58.240 I told you. 0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:11.439 That's that question that hell take a shot, So get 0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:12.920 up to No. 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:14.080 But let's let's go. 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:15.840 Actually, let's rewind a little bit because I feel like 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:18.040 we skipped over a lot and we ain't going back. 0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.120 To like early your career because you. 0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:22.880 Started rhyming a little bit later, right or making make 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:24.200 or actually making records later. 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:26.400 Yeah, because you guys got locked up. 0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:30.520 Yeah yeah, yeah, I started music like yeah when it's 0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:33.560 when things started popping out at twenty eight, right. 0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:36.680 Yeah, I mean, so, yeah, it's late, but you was, 0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:38.640 that's what you were in already. I think that's yeah. 0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:39.840 I went, I went to jail when I. 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:42.439 Was twenty one, but you got already started making music. 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:46.800 I was flooting with it, you know, flooding means yeah. Yeah. 0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:48.800 I think that's another. 0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:52.320 It was messing with hope that he reminds you of us, 0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:54.880 because I believe he got on at that age too. 0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:57.880 People consider that a lot of age, like twenty seven 0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:00.200 and twenty eight, So I think that's one of the 0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:00.880 reasons too. 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:05.600 Right, because then then you've seen like well it depends 0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:09.240 how your life set, but then you've seen like in 0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:11.640 the in the hood anyway you're going to see have 0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:15.800 seen the most by fucking twenty eight, bro, you know 0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:18.040 what I'm saying, going to see it? Oh right, So 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:22.720 by then you're in music like it's just going to 0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:24.120 be hard to be a superstar. 0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:27.440 Then did you think what do you mean? 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:29.360 Did you do think it was something that legitimately you 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:29.720 could do? 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.240 Then yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah of course, because I did it, 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.880 Like you know what I'm saying, Like it was like, yeah, 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:37.720 this is what I want to do. 0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:40.920 Because you started popping when you were still inside. No no, no, no, 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:43.000 it wasn't starting to come out. 0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.520 Yeah, there was music out, but because you went in twice, 0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:48.960 yeah yeah. When I went in the second time, I 0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:51.600 was popping. Okay, yeah yeah yeah I was. I was 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.240 mainstream then, right, you know what I'm saying, Like I was, 0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:57.120 I was geeks, you know what I mean? But yeah, 0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:58.600 the first time when I went in, yeah, I was 0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:02.640 just like like starting to make music and that. But 1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:06.440 even before that, I used to d J, right, I 1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:10.120 used to DJ dancell you get me and that Because 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:12.480 there's different definitions of DJ. 1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:14.760 DJ, like real dj. 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:21.360 DJ is there in Jamaica. J is the chatting they 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:23.600 rap ryan Yeah. 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:31.360 Yeah yeah yeah yeah, fair fair play fair okay yeah 1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:37.800 yeah yeah. 1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:42.640 DJ like scratch mix but that was dancing and hip 1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.400 hop to be honest, but it was more dancing. But 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:47.800 I used to like mixed hip hop as ll you 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.120 know what I'm saying, because that was that's what there 1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:52.120 was then in it like it was it was hip 1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:54.640 hop and it was well then we used to call it. 1:00:54.720 --> 1:01:00.400 Raga what you call dancel. Yeah in London, raga, raga muffin. 1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:04.360 I mean we would say raga button never heard as 1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:05.360 the name for dance. 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:07.800 Yeah, I would say, yeah, well you listen to raga. 1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:10.680 Yeah interesting? 1:01:10.840 --> 1:01:15.520 Yeah, and I and then fast forward girls like we'll 1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:18.600 say Bashman. You know what I'm saying. Like when you 1:01:18.720 --> 1:01:21.240 fast forward to like I don't know, like the two 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:23.520 thousands or something, they say, oh, you listened to Bashman. 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:24.960 You know what I'm saying. 1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:25.760 That's crazy. 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:28.440 But then I saw some interview and some girl was 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:32.080 from London name z Ezy. She was interviewing Beanie Man 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:34.520 and she would say, yeah, so Bashman, is that what's 1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:39.200 that sounds? Yeah, we don't. We don't call that that thought, like, 1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:41.160 you know what I'm saying. So now Man says it's 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:44.040 correct me alight. 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:45.680 So so then your second you go in for the 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:46.480 second time, but you. 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:49.760 Already gets for a hammer Yeah, yeah, first strap, So 1:01:50.120 --> 1:01:50.880 now your gigs? 1:01:52.240 --> 1:01:56.560 What the second time? Now? Yeah, I've got like record 1:01:56.680 --> 1:02:01.360 label had you at that time then still banned from tour, 1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:04.400 but you but your music is going up and there popping. 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:10.480 You can't those shows nothing couldn't come to America, was 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:12.400 banned from radio, TV all that. 1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:19.360 Yeah, so what was the second time for strapped again? 1:02:19.400 --> 1:02:31.240 But I'm taking a shot for it. 1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:38.240 Leading up to you. 1:02:38.360 --> 1:02:42.440 Being now gigs before the second time, who's the people that, like, 1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:43.640 is anybody inspiring you? 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:45.120 Like, what's the scene around. 1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:47.760 At that time? And them times it was. 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:55.520 And I'm asking this because we're ignorant of the scene. 1:02:56.160 --> 1:02:58.160 Talking about what's the scene in the U K For you? 1:02:58.880 --> 1:02:59.920 Inspire you specifically? 1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:02.160 You know what I'm saying, Oh, inspire me from America 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:05.520 or UK whatever is inspiring you at the time. So 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:11.120 them times, yeah, them times it's like me and Skepta 1:03:12.000 --> 1:03:15.800 and that's when, No, that's a bit before storms, and 1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:19.280 it was like that's when like because remember first I said, 1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:21.120 it was just like it was just me from the 1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:23.760 streets kind of bring up some gangster ship. But like 1:03:24.040 --> 1:03:29.240 just before I went, that's when the streets started getting signed. Now, 1:03:29.520 --> 1:03:32.720 so now that the hood niggas are coming into the mainstream, 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:34.880 you know what I mean. So there was like loads 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:41.600 of rappers like Becky Jay, Spades, Benny Banks, Joe, there 1:03:41.640 --> 1:03:44.600 was there was mad niggas are coming in like like 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:47.080 there's money in this music too. That's when it was 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:53.600 that time. Everyone's coming now and they wrapped get just 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:55.400 to do it. They correct it was right, No, it 1:03:55.480 --> 1:03:57.680 was good. There was a lot of talent, you know, 1:03:57.800 --> 1:04:00.680 but there was still niggas on the streets. You know 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:04.000 how that goes, Like a lot of men didn't make it. God, 1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:06.720 you know what I'm saying. Like they did, they probably did, 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:09.360 lasted like ten years or something, you know what I mean, 1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:11.560 and then hip hop two years. 1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:15.200 You know, it goes to the streets. Man everyone, Yeah, everyone. 1:04:14.920 --> 1:04:18.800 Thinks they're superstars straight, you know, it goes man niggas. Yeah, me, Like, 1:04:19.320 --> 1:04:22.560 some man don't really care about music like that. They 1:04:22.720 --> 1:04:25.840 just care about the fame, so that ruins their career. 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:28.600 You know what I'm saying, Like, I know, disrespect to anyone, 1:04:29.040 --> 1:04:30.120 but you're not focused on it. 1:04:30.320 --> 1:04:33.560 Yeah. So like but that time, that's when the streets 1:04:33.600 --> 1:04:35.960 started coming through, now you know what I mean. And 1:04:36.080 --> 1:04:37.000 then I went to jail. 1:04:37.840 --> 1:04:39.680 You get me because I heard you saying in an 1:04:39.720 --> 1:04:42.720 interview that people getting signed like that actually calmed the 1:04:42.760 --> 1:04:43.360 streets down. 1:04:43.880 --> 1:04:47.400 Yeah yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. The streets is way like. 1:04:49.240 --> 1:04:52.600 Two thousand and five to no, I'll say two thousand 1:04:52.600 --> 1:04:57.400 and yeah, five to ten. The streets was mad. So 1:04:57.560 --> 1:05:00.560 in that sense, hip hop saved one hundred percent a 1:05:00.600 --> 1:05:01.040 lot of people. 1:05:02.400 --> 1:05:04.919 That's what from you. You guys, we watched you lock 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:08.160 and like because you love from the streets. 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:13.320 I was watching you, was watching like no limit For 1:05:13.440 --> 1:05:17.400 me personally, that's like master and that was like master 1:05:17.480 --> 1:05:20.520 P was the ones who made me No limit. MASTERP 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:23.000 that's who made me actually think I need. 1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:25.000 To do this music, like you know what I'm saying, 1:05:25.080 --> 1:05:28.520 like blueprint. Yeah, they just reminded. 1:05:29.120 --> 1:05:33.080 They just reminded me of like you being independent was 1:05:33.480 --> 1:05:34.320 that major part. 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:37.960 It was more like there was just like some crazy 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:44.120 savage niggas and that was just the mandom at that time. 1:05:44.280 --> 1:05:47.000 Like that's that's why then we called ourselves Spare No One. 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:50.880 That's s M one, That's what's s N one. So 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:54.640 like that was off master P, No Limit. It was like, 1:05:54.800 --> 1:05:57.640 yeah we're savage spare no One. No one's getting spared 1:05:57.720 --> 1:06:00.280 like niggas up, like you know what I'm saying. So 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:03.720 that was when we started, you know what I mean. 1:06:05.000 --> 1:06:06.680 So that was more man's influence. 1:06:07.360 --> 1:06:07.800 You get me. 1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:10.120 Let's keep it real. 1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:15.840 Do London people look at Americans and be like mind 1:06:15.920 --> 1:06:19.200 them don't know how to dress because you're motherfuckers. 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:25.080 Put on scoffs. You got the pepper peel jackets like 1:06:25.240 --> 1:06:27.480 you you know, you know you know that we know 1:06:27.560 --> 1:06:29.400 y'all got style in London, you got you know what 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:30.880 I'm saying, like, do y'all look. 1:06:30.720 --> 1:06:32.520 At keep it real, keep it real. Do y'all sometimes 1:06:32.600 --> 1:06:36.080 look at Americans and be like ridiculous. 1:06:36.600 --> 1:06:40.840 I think I think I think that. I think I 1:06:40.920 --> 1:06:43.600 think that just depends on the person. It's the person, Okay, 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:46.000 it's the person. You know what I'm saying, Like, like 1:06:46.120 --> 1:06:48.800 you got like mine in London and contrasts so man 1:06:48.880 --> 1:06:51.720 in London, you can and you look. 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:54.280 Because like a person in Harlem will they always claim 1:06:54.320 --> 1:06:56.040 another Harlem person But yeah, because we from Hall and 1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:56.880 that's the way how we do it. 1:06:57.000 --> 1:06:58.840 Personal queens will say that person. 1:06:58.680 --> 1:07:01.080 From That's why I said, like Harlem, you not say 1:07:01.120 --> 1:07:03.960 Harlem is a fly niggas well then I don't know 1:07:04.120 --> 1:07:06.720 back then you don't say the Harlem. That's why Harlem 1:07:06.800 --> 1:07:09.640 reminds me of like West London because them man are 1:07:09.720 --> 1:07:14.880 like like but they're still but they're still gangsters even 1:07:14.920 --> 1:07:16.920 you know what I'm saying. It just it just he's 1:07:16.960 --> 1:07:21.400 from East Okay, he's from East in my mind, yeah, yeah, no, 1:07:22.120 --> 1:07:25.040 I like the way you're not dressed look like even 1:07:25.280 --> 1:07:27.960 like now, most of the stuff I wear is from 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:30.160 New York. Okay, okay, you know what I'm saying, Like 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:33.800 most of the like the stacks, so like, you know 1:07:33.840 --> 1:07:36.560 what I'm saying, even like here, it's the first place 1:07:36.640 --> 1:07:40.600 I'll see man wearing shorts and a shirt like like 1:07:40.880 --> 1:07:45.600 but noting man wearing shorts and socks. 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:50.200 You know what I'm saying, you know, down to the. 1:07:53.720 --> 1:07:53.840 Right. 1:07:53.880 --> 1:08:02.400 Now, in my head, I think, how's that gonna work? 1:08:02.520 --> 1:08:05.920 You know what I'm saying, Like maybe like White in 1:08:06.040 --> 1:08:10.560 London might do that. I told him that's like white, 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:14.920 it's my dress about Nigga Mande dressing like that. Yeah, 1:08:15.600 --> 1:08:17.800 But then I come out hand I think, I think, 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:23.280 you know what, it's kind of works, you get me? 1:08:23.400 --> 1:08:25.720 So a lot of this I would take style from 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:28.240 here as well, right, you know, so I couldn't even 1:08:28.320 --> 1:08:29.720 say that, you know what I mean? 1:08:29.840 --> 1:08:32.519 And to be honest, like. 1:08:32.920 --> 1:08:36.000 We've we've copied a lot of you lot star like 1:08:36.280 --> 1:08:38.560 in it from remember hip hop, like I don't know, 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:42.360 nineties or something, baggy jeans and that that's why London 1:08:42.439 --> 1:08:45.080 would be wearing baggy jeans, you know what I'm saying. 1:08:45.360 --> 1:08:48.760 And then I think after a while London was like, 1:08:49.320 --> 1:08:50.880 you know what, we're doing our own thing. That's when 1:08:50.920 --> 1:08:53.960 we were straight jeans. And then you say, yeah, I've 1:08:53.960 --> 1:08:56.160 been the skinny jeans. I didn't say. I won't say 1:08:56.160 --> 1:08:58.360 we invented it. I won't say we invented it. 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:01.960 Straight and skinny and two different things. 1:09:06.240 --> 1:09:08.760 That's that's what that's like. Yeah, that's yeah, that's not. 1:09:11.320 --> 1:09:11.559 Something. 1:09:11.600 --> 1:09:14.640 But then we'll be like, yeah, straight jeans like a 1:09:14.760 --> 1:09:19.320 clean jumper, us jump as a swell like a clean jumper. 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:21.160 Sure that would be mad. And then we're like, this 1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:22.800 is London, you know what. 1:09:23.120 --> 1:09:27.000 And then now it's like everyone's like American man, We're 1:09:27.120 --> 1:09:29.360 just like UK and vice versa. 1:09:30.560 --> 1:09:32.800 We gotta get we gotta get this one out out 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:39.920 the way. Central scene defended a lot of New York people. 1:09:40.560 --> 1:09:43.599 Yeah, with the tracksuits, the clean Nike tech. 1:09:43.720 --> 1:09:45.639 Hold on, we didn't even know you had Nike out there. 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:49.639 Yeah no, no, no, no, that's cool. 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:50.120 That's cool. 1:09:50.200 --> 1:09:56.920 But that's the same for us. Okay, so that's that's 1:09:56.960 --> 1:10:00.360 the same for us, Like Mama's even when I come here. 1:10:00.560 --> 1:10:02.960 Because you remember, naking text is a special tepe. 1:10:02.960 --> 1:10:04.880 But no, no, no, I'm answer. 1:10:07.680 --> 1:10:10.720 I can answer you like even so even for me, Yeah, 1:10:11.240 --> 1:10:14.040 when I was like, remember I'm fanned for ten years, right, Okay, 1:10:14.080 --> 1:10:15.680 you know I'm saying, I don't know what's going You 1:10:15.720 --> 1:10:18.000 get me. So then I've come out here and then 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:19.400 the man them were wearing Nike. 1:10:19.400 --> 1:10:21.080 Text like you get me. 1:10:21.840 --> 1:10:24.760 And remember this is after COVID, so everyone's masked up 1:10:24.800 --> 1:10:27.679 now as well. Nike text and a mosque. 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:29.840 You get me. That's what I'm coming and seeing in 1:10:29.960 --> 1:10:30.800 New York. You get me. 1:10:31.080 --> 1:10:32.800 And I'm like, ro this is like the ends, like 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:37.600 you know, then you get me? So even for me, 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:40.160 I thought, right, this is how you look dressed. But 1:10:40.240 --> 1:10:44.240 I'm not gonna jump and say we started that because 1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:48.760 I don't know you know, and it's nick remember next 1:10:48.920 --> 1:10:51.560 worldwide that's everywhere. You know what I'm saying, like you 1:10:51.600 --> 1:10:55.240 get me? So but what like I think it's more 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:58.720 the Internet, Yeah, you know the one. The Internet is 1:10:58.840 --> 1:11:01.920 like it just like makes things worse than it is. 1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:04.559 This is like that's a kid, he's like a couple 1:11:04.600 --> 1:11:05.599 of years older than my son. 1:11:05.680 --> 1:11:07.600 How the fun is he going to know? You know 1:11:07.640 --> 1:11:09.479 what I'm saying, that's the fact. 1:11:10.760 --> 1:11:13.599 How the it so like you got like grown men, 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:17.439 like even a couple of my American regidents who are older. 1:11:18.439 --> 1:11:18.760 What's this? 1:11:21.280 --> 1:11:25.479 I'm like, are you calling me about this? That's a kid? 1:11:26.600 --> 1:11:35.040 Like say like Main may no, that's my bread. He 1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:39.000 knows my son. Yeah, if my son said that, Maine 1:11:39.120 --> 1:11:41.160 is not going to call me about that. He's not 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:43.280 going to call what's mill say? He's going to be like, 1:11:43.600 --> 1:11:44.960 he's a kid, what's he going to know? 1:11:45.680 --> 1:11:50.040 Because of the Internet Central seed is big, he must 1:11:50.200 --> 1:11:53.240 know what happens in London and America, you know what 1:11:53.280 --> 1:11:55.880 I'm saying, Like when really he just didn't know. It's 1:11:55.960 --> 1:12:00.840 just like is big Now he got a little like, well, 1:12:00.960 --> 1:12:02.800 ignorant is the word, you know what I'm saying. It 1:12:02.880 --> 1:12:05.679 was ignorant to that, and he said something on camera, 1:12:05.880 --> 1:12:08.240 you know, we we've all done it, but really, what 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:10.000 the is he going to know? He's a little kid, bro. 1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:14.280 And then after he said and then after he said, yeah, 1:12:14.320 --> 1:12:17.280 maybe you did have like you know what I mean, 1:12:17.560 --> 1:12:20.240 because I mean you could go back to old NAS video. 1:12:20.439 --> 1:12:24.080 Yeah, and you can see it wasn't called Nike back. Yeah, 1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:25.679 it was a special version. 1:12:25.520 --> 1:12:28.200 Of the like yeah, yeah, of course, of course, yeah, 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:31.840 but yeah, that's it. Yeah, man, that's yeah, that's that's 1:12:32.960 --> 1:12:36.000 with a lot of the stuff similar when I come 1:12:36.080 --> 1:12:39.960 over now everything is just the same ship like just 1:12:40.040 --> 1:12:43.200 in different ways and the cultures. It's a tiny bit 1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:48.400 because remember, like I said, you got Dominicans, Porto Ricans, Belizeans. 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:53.720 Now we got Jamaicans. Try right, columb you know what 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:57.080 I'm saying. So like even a lot of them things 1:12:57.120 --> 1:12:59.680 will be sprinkled into U Lot's culture as well, and 1:12:59.760 --> 1:13:03.080 then it's American culture, you know what I'm saying. So 1:13:03.320 --> 1:13:06.479 a lot of stuff we don't know about vice versa, right, 1:13:06.680 --> 1:13:09.519 you know what I'm saying. So I just wouldn't jump 1:13:09.640 --> 1:13:12.160 up and say we done this for so we cause 1:13:12.200 --> 1:13:13.640 we don't know you know what I mean. 1:13:13.960 --> 1:13:16.000 So let me let me ask you. There's two more 1:13:17.000 --> 1:13:21.519 rule more questions over that. Now this is a this 1:13:21.680 --> 1:13:28.040 is something that I mean Richard Millie and I'm getting 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:32.200 my band switched, so I askedly. So the guy's like, hey, 1:13:32.360 --> 1:13:34.160 why are you doing this? I'm like, hey, I'm going 1:13:34.200 --> 1:13:36.880 to London, and he'said, do not whar you're watching London? 1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:42.679 Now For some reason, I had searched that and there's 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:47.000 literally videos of people coming up to people no I'm 1:13:47.040 --> 1:13:50.040 talking about. I guess they were chopping their hands on. 1:13:50.280 --> 1:13:51.519 I guess they didn't want to ask you. 1:13:52.360 --> 1:13:55.560 I'm yet to see this video. Well you know what 1:13:56.439 --> 1:14:00.160 they coming up to people? Yeah, buteah know. 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.000 You know what I said, that the actual chop hands off. 1:14:03.200 --> 1:14:07.200 But that's what I'm saying. They come, they could have 1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:09.160 said case Okay, I didn't know. 1:14:09.720 --> 1:14:12.120 I didn't know if I was watching a I or 1:14:12.240 --> 1:14:12.840 if this Now. 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:17.360 I followed this watch dealer. I followed this watch dealer 1:14:17.880 --> 1:14:20.640 as a Chinese guy, and he walks around London all 1:14:20.680 --> 1:14:27.960 the time with watching. He has no problem, so that 1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:32.439 said Bud. But yeah, him, man, it's like his little 1:14:32.520 --> 1:14:33.400 his little watch crew. 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:36.920 I mean, he has people following around with an umbrella, 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:39.479 so obviously the guy must have a ham on them, 1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:44.400 I'm guessing. But but is that a real problem in London, 1:14:44.479 --> 1:14:45.960 like with the watch Coulture. 1:14:45.760 --> 1:14:48.160 Like, let's that the same thing as here? 1:14:48.360 --> 1:14:51.080 Okay, okay, you know what I'm saying. If you're like 1:14:51.200 --> 1:14:55.160 out of a Diamond district. Yeah, and you know I 1:14:55.240 --> 1:14:57.559 don't know who you are, it could happen. Even if 1:14:57.680 --> 1:14:59.960 I know who you are, it could happen. You know, 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:02.720 I'm saying it's the same ship, like but them kind 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:05.400 of clips or more in. What you're saying is more 1:15:05.479 --> 1:15:10.000 in like central area. Okay, so that's like Times Square 1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:13.759 or something like Times Square. That's like central Okay, west 1:15:13.880 --> 1:15:17.040 End we call it. Yeah, that's like where the tourists 1:15:17.080 --> 1:15:17.880 are at. Okay. 1:15:18.080 --> 1:15:18.679 You know what I'm saying. 1:15:18.800 --> 1:15:23.000 So like people are robbing tourists, like there's no comebacks, 1:15:23.880 --> 1:15:24.519 you know what I'm saying. 1:15:24.600 --> 1:15:30.600 Like the chopping of the hand I heard, I'm just chopping. 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:32.560 You know what. 1:15:33.320 --> 1:15:35.720 You know what I would love I would love to 1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:41.680 make England sound wicked, like I said, Yeah, I love 1:15:41.760 --> 1:15:47.040 to say that, but I ain't seen it. Maybe maybe 1:15:47.960 --> 1:15:53.320 with that catching I believe it behind and there's booths 1:15:53.360 --> 1:16:00.679 and that that was the caption. 1:16:00.920 --> 1:16:03.840 That's the reason why, like I blie catch the chopped 1:16:03.880 --> 1:16:07.920 off for yeah, something like that. You know the same, 1:16:08.000 --> 1:16:11.320 it's exact same here man a jumping out, jumping off 1:16:11.360 --> 1:16:15.439 of moped's hair with machines the swing that watch. Same, 1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:19.000 it's exact same ship that Everything that happens here happens 1:16:19.040 --> 1:16:22.000 there and all over the world. 1:16:22.360 --> 1:16:24.080 Absolutely, gangsters all over. 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:27.799 The world, everywhere has got anywhere, there's poverty, there's gangsters 1:16:28.840 --> 1:16:30.920 or there's no I wouldn't even say gangster. I'd say 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:35.040 people who are desperate. Do you understand? So anywhere that is, 1:16:35.400 --> 1:16:37.599 it's going to be jumpy, right, you know what I mean? 1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:38.800 I was going to take a shot to that, but 1:16:38.840 --> 1:16:42.280 I was thinking maybe not Yeah, but no, because those 1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:45.120 are the people who show us loved I saw people. 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:53.080 Okay, look, so how did you hook up with twenty 1:16:53.120 --> 1:16:53.679 one Savage? 1:16:56.200 --> 1:16:56.679 Savage? 1:16:57.160 --> 1:17:01.640 Because he for the UK too, it's from UK. I 1:17:01.720 --> 1:17:04.360 think I just I think I just hit Savage and DM. 1:17:04.479 --> 1:17:08.280 You know, Okay, Wow, the Savage is proper. That's that's 1:17:08.320 --> 1:17:09.200 a smart nigga. 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:11.759 Bro. Let me even talk his business. 1:17:11.800 --> 1:17:16.640 But yeah, about Savage, he's he's still like he like 1:17:17.479 --> 1:17:20.160 even when I talked to Savage, he will shocked me, 1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:24.080 like because he is just how he knows the ends. 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:30.479 He knows like names of streets you know, in detail 1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:33.479 in London, like he knows what's going on, who's who? 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:36.719 Like you know what I'm saying, Like, how far removed 1:17:36.800 --> 1:17:37.400 is he from from? 1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:39.519 He's not far removed. 1:17:39.880 --> 1:17:42.599 He's connected in Atlanta. How can you be connected in both? 1:17:42.840 --> 1:17:46.880 Because I feel like like if you're outside looking in 1:17:47.840 --> 1:17:52.200 remember like that we've studied all of you lot. You 1:17:52.240 --> 1:17:54.960 know what I'm saying, like, remember you on the on 1:17:55.120 --> 1:17:59.479 our screens our whole life, like man like nor and that. 1:17:59.760 --> 1:18:03.320 You know I'm saying, like on our screen growing up. 1:18:04.200 --> 1:18:07.080 That's studying, right right, you know what I'm saying. So 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:09.479 you come out here, now, he's good kid, come out 1:18:09.520 --> 1:18:13.280 here and it's cool. It's America, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:16.639 so you know what I mean, Like, and he's probably cool. 1:18:16.680 --> 1:18:19.360 He's from London, you know, even though people he said, 1:18:19.560 --> 1:18:22.519 he was saying people he said disrespect his accent and. 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:23.479 There was always fighting. 1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:27.280 But so he's going to like he's gonna I'm saying, 1:18:27.280 --> 1:18:29.720 he's going to have the knowledge of both worlds, right, 1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:32.160 you know what I'm saying. Like, So, so for him 1:18:32.200 --> 1:18:35.560 to get to the top, Like me personally, I'm not 1:18:35.600 --> 1:18:38.320 really surprised because I see a lot of London niggas 1:18:38.320 --> 1:18:40.880 come out here, they get to the top. Canadian niggas 1:18:40.920 --> 1:18:44.280 they get Americans go to London, they get to the top. 1:18:45.080 --> 1:18:47.160 You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I see American, 1:18:47.640 --> 1:18:49.799 like I see Maine come to London. 1:18:50.560 --> 1:18:53.920 Yeah, one time I remember was that with Maine and 1:18:55.400 --> 1:18:57.280 and he's saying, yeah, we're going to this after party. 1:18:57.280 --> 1:18:59.960 We're in London. Yeah, it's like four o'clock in the morning. 1:19:01.200 --> 1:19:03.240 But you know New York niggas, you know, don't sleep 1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:07.240 like you man now all night. So I'm saying, man, 1:19:07.280 --> 1:19:11.160 we're not finding no after party in London at four am, 1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:15.400 bro because and we're in central this is the city. Yeah, 1:19:15.479 --> 1:19:18.880 I'm saying, this ain't happening. But I thought, let me 1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:21.640 follow him and see where he's going on. Yeah, So 1:19:21.720 --> 1:19:26.360 then we're walking in the middle of Leicester Square. Now 1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:29.880 I'm saying one hundred percent, no, nothing's happening tonight. 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:33.120 This is Leicester Square, this is the top flay me. 1:19:34.200 --> 1:19:37.680 Then we pull up, pull up to some spot and 1:19:37.800 --> 1:19:41.479 mean it's like yeah, yeah these times there's like fifty 1:19:41.560 --> 1:19:44.759 of us as well, like like fifty man girls. 1:19:44.880 --> 1:19:45.280 Everything. 1:19:45.920 --> 1:19:48.479 I'm saying, this ain't happening. Next thing, we're walking in 1:19:48.720 --> 1:19:50.120 and it's a big settings. 1:19:50.280 --> 1:19:51.200 I'm like, what the fuck? 1:19:51.360 --> 1:19:54.519 Like, but that's what I'm saying, Like like American that 1:19:54.720 --> 1:19:58.680 the man then always do it the biggest always, That's 1:19:58.720 --> 1:20:01.880 what I noticed. Like, anyway you have a great time, 1:20:02.000 --> 1:20:04.599 you do it the biggest way. You know, the biggest guy. 1:20:05.200 --> 1:20:11.559 You got the big pattern and means settings like motion. Yeah, 1:20:11.640 --> 1:20:13.880 me here, you know, I got the biggest settings like 1:20:14.520 --> 1:20:16.640 and Maine just come and showed me sign in my 1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:19.479 own sea, Like you know what I'm saying. But that's 1:20:19.640 --> 1:20:22.200 what I'm saying about when we come over here or 1:20:22.280 --> 1:20:24.040 like do you know what I mean? Like we're outside 1:20:24.080 --> 1:20:27.320 looking in and yeah that's twenty one savage bro. 1:20:27.479 --> 1:20:29.200 Now it's the biggest rapper in the world. 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:33.040 Yeah. 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:35.320 I used to complain about like the South and not 1:20:35.360 --> 1:20:39.280 get in love in New York, And I believe complain. 1:20:39.280 --> 1:20:40.720 I'm just telling you what you now. 1:20:40.760 --> 1:20:45.880 You like didn't show the South no love. I remember, listen, listen, 1:20:47.320 --> 1:20:48.920 let me tell you how I know. No, no, let 1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:50.559 me tell you no, no wait wait, let me tell 1:20:50.560 --> 1:20:52.519 you how I know. Yeah, because I remember I can't. 1:20:52.640 --> 1:20:56.320 Yeah, because because my granddad he used to live in Brownsville. 1:20:56.880 --> 1:21:01.160 Yeah, so will in brook Yeah we have a brother here, 1:21:01.320 --> 1:21:02.680 yeah yeah, and I'm Brooklyn. 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:04.439 So I talk about brows Yeah. 1:21:04.479 --> 1:21:11.240 Yeah, I was in browns in Brooklyn, Yeah, with my 1:21:11.439 --> 1:21:15.040 with my granddad's yeah and them time. 1:21:15.040 --> 1:21:16.639 I used to listen to Oh No Limit. 1:21:16.720 --> 1:21:19.040 I had every single No Limited album the time them 1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:23.840 albums are twenty pounds, that's like fucking thirty dollars twenty pound. 1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:27.120 Used to buy every single No Limit album. Yeah me, yeah, 1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:29.439 and I'm on the block and I used to want 1:21:29.479 --> 1:21:32.240 to play my Silk the Charka and my mat and 1:21:32.400 --> 1:21:34.360 all that, and I put this on your ear true 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:36.960 or that I'll put that ship. This is hard. And 1:21:37.040 --> 1:21:39.760 then the man on the block, I turned that ship off, man. 1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:43.679 And then they were saying, play your Rule, let's page 1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:46.599 your Rules first album, and I was like, I want 1:21:46.640 --> 1:21:49.040 to listen to this, man, listen to fucking no lip 1:21:49.120 --> 1:21:49.800 by them times. 1:21:49.880 --> 1:21:52.920 They was not hearing it. And then about a year 1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:57.400 later that's when they started playing Bling Bling. I remember 1:21:57.479 --> 1:21:59.160 Bling Bling was into you and there was he was 1:21:59.200 --> 1:22:00.920 saying to me, would you know about that blame? And 1:22:00.960 --> 1:22:02.479 I said, you might didn't want to listen to this. 1:22:03.640 --> 1:22:08.440 You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I got vindicated 1:22:08.439 --> 1:22:09.160 all the way over there. 1:22:10.680 --> 1:22:18.080 Yeah I saw that firsthand. Okay, outcast is different. That's 1:22:18.120 --> 1:22:24.559 the artcasting more commercial. And I'm talking like yeah yeah cool, 1:22:24.640 --> 1:22:28.880 like you're talking like like like me and your cousin 1:22:28.960 --> 1:22:33.400 and like before that, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But 1:22:33.560 --> 1:22:34.519 I didn't see. 1:22:35.240 --> 1:22:37.439 Remember, it's different fro him up there. 1:22:38.280 --> 1:22:42.480 Yeah, but like not but we used to fuk with Outcastle, 1:22:42.880 --> 1:22:45.320 but I don't. I feel like outcasts a bit more 1:22:45.360 --> 1:22:48.439 commercial though. I know you're saying underground and that, but 1:22:48.600 --> 1:22:51.880 it's not like no limit, no limit, no, you know 1:22:52.680 --> 1:22:54.439 you get me, you know what I'm saying. 1:22:54.520 --> 1:22:56.840 So yeah, I want to what was your point that 1:22:56.880 --> 1:23:01.519 you're gonna make though about the if complains no. 1:23:01.600 --> 1:23:04.200 Because I was trying to say the hook that it's 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:07.360 now kind of even in itself out the love everywhere 1:23:07.680 --> 1:23:10.040 like me personally. I don't know if y'all know, but 1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:13.000 I was like the first famous guy to shout out 1:23:13.080 --> 1:23:16.960 London in a mean way. Westwood I said I played 1:23:17.000 --> 1:23:23.280 the best hood. I said the best hood with Tim Westwood. 1:23:24.400 --> 1:23:27.040 That was crazy if you knew that this is one 1:23:27.080 --> 1:23:28.360 of the number one records. 1:23:29.000 --> 1:23:31.920 I played the best hood. O T with Tim Westwood 1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:33.040 used to be on section. 1:23:33.479 --> 1:23:35.800 Now my section is good. People didn't even know I 1:23:35.920 --> 1:23:37.439 shout out the mandendamn man. 1:23:39.800 --> 1:23:42.320 I didn't even know that was a figure in London. 1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:46.400 That was Tim Westwood. Tim Westwood represented London. He was 1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:49.880 the master place all that time, even them times. Westwood 1:23:50.320 --> 1:23:52.600 used to play that bit on the radio. This is 1:23:52.720 --> 1:24:04.599 radio what you play that part over and over? Amazing, 1:24:09.840 --> 1:24:12.400 this is Radio one. They do like this is like 1:24:13.439 --> 1:24:16.080 like they play that stuff in like stores in London. 1:24:16.120 --> 1:24:18.559 We put in shops. They played that in the shop 1:24:18.960 --> 1:24:22.479 in London. Yeah, like where like old people they don't 1:24:22.520 --> 1:24:26.400 listen to hip hop basically, and that's Radio One, that's 1:24:26.439 --> 1:24:27.240 what plays in there. 1:24:27.320 --> 1:24:27.840 And he's like. 1:24:31.200 --> 1:24:34.559 For about five ten minutes that one go to be honest, 1:24:34.600 --> 1:24:36.719 I went to London. I fell in love with London, 1:24:37.040 --> 1:24:39.600 and I was just like, yo, I have to have 1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:42.560 to do something to come back. And I knew that 1:24:42.680 --> 1:24:47.000 I if I shoutowed it out and then and for years. 1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:48.280 People don't know you know London. 1:24:48.720 --> 1:24:51.439 Yes, tell the story when you're and you said you 1:24:51.520 --> 1:25:02.160 had the madness with the bouncers, know what you Because 1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:04.240 it's involved a couple couple of people that maybe not 1:25:06.280 --> 1:25:07.839 there's no way to say it differently publicly. 1:25:08.040 --> 1:25:08.400 Trust me. 1:25:08.680 --> 1:25:09.080 I tried. 1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:09.680 It didn't work. 1:25:09.720 --> 1:25:13.760 I got I've already said that. Okay, you get which 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:18.280 said you said it was in London. Yeah, and then yeah, 1:25:18.320 --> 1:25:21.679 the madness is and bounces and he could save him, yes, 1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:22.800 And they didn't save him. 1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:23.599 But that's bounces. 1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:26.439 Okay, yeah, that's not that's not even a bad story. 1:25:26.520 --> 1:25:28.280 That's not like if you saw a bunch of street 1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:33.760 niggas and say, that's what's everyone has madness bouncing. They 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:35.240 put him in a full something else and bro, I 1:25:35.240 --> 1:25:37.600 ain't got I've never really seen a girl man in 1:25:37.640 --> 1:25:38.240 the full Nelson. 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:41.120 I was like, I was shocked. I didn't know where 1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:44.639 was Where was you in London? Though I don't remember 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:45.519 with water in London. 1:25:45.720 --> 1:25:47.479 I just know it was us Big Daddy came. 1:25:47.520 --> 1:25:49.360 It was a rocket for the event, like it was 1:25:49.439 --> 1:25:51.960 like something that I didn't I think this was going 1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:52.360 to happen. 1:25:52.760 --> 1:25:56.040 And yeah, but I love London. But that's that's the 1:25:56.120 --> 1:25:58.640 later year, you know. But I'm saying, yeah, yeah, for 1:25:58.920 --> 1:26:03.360 London man to hear Noriega was in London and had 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:06.080 the Manus bounces. Yes, those are the stories. 1:26:07.080 --> 1:26:08.679 That's not knows London. 1:26:09.160 --> 1:26:11.400 Yes, that's the stuff. Well, you got to realize that 1:26:11.960 --> 1:26:13.280 later's tough people. 1:26:13.120 --> 1:26:13.880 Care about that. 1:26:14.120 --> 1:26:16.360 That's that's in the middle of two thousands, in the 1:26:16.439 --> 1:26:19.639 middle of you know, the late two thousands and tens. 1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:22.000 But you got to be skipping over a whole other part. 1:26:22.439 --> 1:26:26.600 What happened was Kapona Noriega, which was the album that 1:26:26.680 --> 1:26:29.479 came out before and r E was so big to 1:26:29.560 --> 1:26:33.080 this day, Comona Noriega, it's bigger than nor in London. 1:26:33.280 --> 1:26:35.920 Like that's a big yeah, that's that's bigger than Nori 1:26:36.080 --> 1:26:40.640 in London. And so nor coming out there. That's the 1:26:40.680 --> 1:26:43.000 reason why I said Tom Westwood was because because I'm like, 1:26:43.200 --> 1:26:44.840 I want to come go back out there, you know 1:26:44.880 --> 1:26:48.400 what I mean? And Noriega so much love, but so 1:26:48.560 --> 1:26:49.479 I want to take the time. 1:26:49.320 --> 1:26:52.280 About being in the streets. Maybe in the streets because 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.599 that No album was big, big. 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:56.800 You know what. Let me describe that a little better. 1:26:56.960 --> 1:26:58.040 It was big first. 1:26:59.439 --> 1:27:02.560 Yeah and foundation and then you know what I'm not 1:27:02.720 --> 1:27:05.000 But I'm not going to take away from that comments 1:27:05.400 --> 1:27:10.439 them under that underground audience like the mop. Like the 1:27:10.520 --> 1:27:12.639 best thing about London is I could get two shows. 1:27:12.880 --> 1:27:15.120 I can do a component Origga show early and I 1:27:15.160 --> 1:27:16.479 could do a Norrie show at night. 1:27:16.720 --> 1:27:18.719 You know what I'm saying. And that's one million percent. 1:27:19.000 --> 1:27:20.599 But I want to take a time because I haven't 1:27:20.640 --> 1:27:26.640 said this. I really understood UK hip hop. I understood 1:27:26.800 --> 1:27:29.040 London scene. And that's the reason why I shouted it 1:27:29.160 --> 1:27:31.920 out early and yes, you guys are welcome. 1:27:35.560 --> 1:27:38.599 We gotta do a live dream Champions and London for sure, 1:27:39.160 --> 1:27:40.439 for sure, I will tell you the truth. 1:27:40.840 --> 1:27:41.760 We got to be on time. 1:27:42.240 --> 1:27:44.559 We got to be on time. One time we came late. 1:27:44.720 --> 1:27:48.000 They do not like that ship like that ship yo. 1:27:48.439 --> 1:27:54.160 So okay, now we got Davis. Didn't you make a 1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:56.240 record with Davies? How did that happen? 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.160 And Davies that's my bridge still Like one time he 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:06.680 come London and he come to the studio and I remember, I. 1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:08.760 Can't lie that day. I was a great host. I'm 1:28:08.760 --> 1:28:10.800 not going to lie to you. Like even the East 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:11.880 doesn't know. He's going to know. 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:14.840 Now, Like that day, I was having an argument with 1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:18.280 one thing like that I used to beat then. So 1:28:18.400 --> 1:28:19.920 I was trying to get back to the ting. But 1:28:20.479 --> 1:28:23.400 Davis is in London. This is Davis. But you know, 1:28:23.439 --> 1:28:26.760 when you're beefing with a ting like, you can't think 1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:31.599 about nothing else the ting, tinging. 1:28:30.600 --> 1:28:31.200 You know what I'm saying. 1:28:31.240 --> 1:28:34.360 So I flew down to the studio linked East and 1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:36.640 I had the chef in the studio and all the 1:28:37.000 --> 1:28:40.040 chef caught in some yard food and I said, yeah, man, 1:28:40.120 --> 1:28:42.000 this is your house, man, you get me, do your thing. 1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:44.600 I left all the soldiers there and this is you. 1:28:44.760 --> 1:28:46.720 You get me. Then I went back to the ting, 1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:48.280 you know what I'm saying. 1:28:48.680 --> 1:28:54.160 So, so obviously that's me and East link from then 1:28:54.240 --> 1:28:57.200 you get me right then obviously when I got my visa, 1:28:57.880 --> 1:29:01.400 then I've come back head and I linked with East 1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:04.439 and that's the mandam you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:29:05.600 --> 1:29:08.360 and he's cold as well. Obviously, man's a big fun 1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:10.760 you know what I mean, Like this is cold. 1:29:10.840 --> 1:29:10.960 Man. 1:29:11.320 --> 1:29:13.519 I just met with Dave easton bottle Yeah, me and 1:29:13.600 --> 1:29:15.439 he's got a couple of trucks, so you know what 1:29:15.439 --> 1:29:18.080 I mean. But obviously that one day and made the album. 1:29:18.120 --> 1:29:22.919 You know you think that, like everybody has a podcast 1:29:23.000 --> 1:29:23.320 right now? 1:29:24.240 --> 1:29:25.920 Have you been thinking about doing a podcast. 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:29.320 I'm sure somebody came up to you and it was like, yeah, no, 1:29:29.479 --> 1:29:32.080 it's not for me, man, really, you like the first 1:29:32.160 --> 1:29:33.439 rapper that said that, let me make. 1:29:33.320 --> 1:29:37.120 Some everybody else so greedy. 1:29:38.760 --> 1:29:43.320 It's learning to get a little crazy. The Frog the podcast. 1:29:45.920 --> 1:29:48.280 That's why I like And I don't even go on 1:29:48.479 --> 1:29:50.600 a lot of podcasts, you know what I'm saying, Like 1:29:50.680 --> 1:29:53.479 a lot of them are just negative. Man. You know 1:29:53.520 --> 1:29:56.040 what I'm saying, Like you you've had success, yes, yes, yes, 1:29:56.120 --> 1:29:58.160 you know what I'm saying. We're giving people they flower 1:29:58.920 --> 1:30:02.360 a little man just going because they still want to rap. Really, 1:30:03.479 --> 1:30:05.560 you know what I'm saying. You get me, but like 1:30:06.280 --> 1:30:09.040 it's not really yet me. So they're just like negative. 1:30:11.000 --> 1:30:13.240 I'm not really into it, you know, and it's grown 1:30:13.320 --> 1:30:21.320 men like legends like being negative. But when you come, 1:30:21.479 --> 1:30:23.800 when you watch drink Champs, you laugh. 1:30:25.080 --> 1:30:26.080 To celebrate stuff. 1:30:26.120 --> 1:30:28.639 You click for rumors, this one you say, yeah. 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:31.639 Man, let me hear like man's watching like a three 1:30:31.760 --> 1:30:36.320 four hour cartel or something or fucking the other day 1:30:36.320 --> 1:30:38.680 I watched Boodo, you know what I'm saying, or like 1:30:39.120 --> 1:30:41.640 or like five or so you get me, like, you 1:30:41.720 --> 1:30:42.240 know what I'm saying. 1:30:42.320 --> 1:30:44.360 But the other ones so I'm not really. 1:30:45.000 --> 1:30:47.559 That was even the beauty about us doing business. Bleak 1:30:47.640 --> 1:30:50.880 right now, Bleak is keeping that tradition too. He has 1:30:51.000 --> 1:30:53.960 no controversy, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, 1:30:54.360 --> 1:30:58.639 because he just started one. We got a whole network. 1:30:58.840 --> 1:30:59.559 You don't got your own. 1:31:00.040 --> 1:31:05.680 Yeah yeah yeah yeah, and we're doing it right. 1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:06.160 You know what I mean. 1:31:06.200 --> 1:31:09.120 Everyone that's down with us kind of owns their own material, 1:31:09.200 --> 1:31:10.600 you know what I mean, Like we don't want to like, 1:31:11.040 --> 1:31:13.360 we don't want to be those guys that claim this. Yeah, 1:31:13.400 --> 1:31:18.680 we want to help launch and yeah yeah, yeah, right now, 1:31:18.720 --> 1:31:21.439 that's dope. But have anybody ever approached you to do 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:27.679 a podcast? Yeah that's not Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, that's dope. 1:31:27.720 --> 1:31:30.280 But all right, so you I asked you earlier, but 1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:32.040 I want to reiterate it so the fans can know. 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:35.000 So you were saying that we were making singles, we're not. 1:31:35.120 --> 1:31:38.040 We're not focused on making an album or EP right now. No, 1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:41.599 i't even make ap okay, so no EPs for me. Okay, 1:31:42.200 --> 1:31:45.640 that's small. Let me not, let me not disrespect, right, 1:31:45.840 --> 1:31:49.160 it's not for me. But right now, yeah, I'm just 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:50.560 drumping music because. 1:31:51.760 --> 1:31:53.559 It's it's the game is kind of at a time 1:31:53.600 --> 1:31:55.800 where everyone's kind of scared, Like you know what I mean, 1:31:56.120 --> 1:32:00.519 You're right, everyone's just scared to drop music. Remember before 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:03.960 man was just lacing Bangersam, look who he's talking about 1:32:04.000 --> 1:32:06.680 like rough Riders, and you know what I'm saying. And 1:32:06.840 --> 1:32:09.000 even away from that, there're still a lacing banger. You're 1:32:09.040 --> 1:32:13.479 still catch another ten to fifteen Kisses Off, fifteen Going Right, 1:32:13.640 --> 1:32:17.000 and the a T more fucking team r lest. 1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:18.519 Or you know what I'm saying, Like you get me. 1:32:18.720 --> 1:32:24.639 But now it's just like everyone's just focused on Yeah, 1:32:24.640 --> 1:32:26.680 I've got to get the numbers, and it's just not 1:32:26.760 --> 1:32:30.360 about music, isn't it. So now I'm just enjoying music 1:32:30.400 --> 1:32:33.200 and just lacing bangers like yummy and that's what. 1:32:33.560 --> 1:32:34.600 Yeah, That's where I'm at with it. 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:37.920 Well let's go actually go back to the to the 1:32:37.960 --> 1:32:42.519 slick Rick joint. How did that come about? Because it's 1:32:42.560 --> 1:32:45.960 a good album, yeah, you know project and. 1:32:46.000 --> 1:32:48.439 Then you even getting that call? 1:32:48.560 --> 1:32:49.240 How did that happen? 1:32:50.680 --> 1:32:55.240 Because it so slick He's on Idris's album, I'm labeling it. 1:32:55.360 --> 1:32:58.080 Right, Yeah, yeah it's and well he produced it for sure, 1:33:01.840 --> 1:33:06.599 what's it's just seven Wallace seven Company, now that's his label. 1:33:08.320 --> 1:33:11.360 And then Nars Massive. I think I think it's a joint. 1:33:11.439 --> 1:33:12.000 I'm not sure. 1:33:12.200 --> 1:33:15.920 I feel like it is. I'm not sure, but yeah, so. 1:33:17.520 --> 1:33:17.840 I think. 1:33:18.920 --> 1:33:20.000 Well, I don't quote me. 1:33:20.040 --> 1:33:21.680 I was just watching the interview, but I saw like 1:33:21.880 --> 1:33:24.720 Slicky was saying, like, yeah, I had to get that 1:33:25.040 --> 1:33:27.479 nas from hip hop, I mean from New York and 1:33:28.120 --> 1:33:30.800 gigs from London. It's like, oh geez, you get me. 1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:34.040 So yeah, it just his team rents obviously it just 1:33:34.200 --> 1:33:36.840 is the mandam you know what I mean. Yeah, they 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:38.800 reached out to man it says slip Rick, and then 1:33:38.800 --> 1:33:41.960 they sent it to me. And Man's got a fresh 1:33:42.000 --> 1:33:46.560 slit rick. Remember in the beginning. Yeah, all this stuff starts. 1:33:46.280 --> 1:33:47.000 On your phone. 1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:49.800 You know what I'm saying That man sent me the 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:54.200 slit Rick Like same thing that Drake, you know what 1:33:54.240 --> 1:33:55.280 I mean, fucking the. 1:33:56.760 --> 1:33:57.360 Whole thing. 1:33:57.640 --> 1:33:59.120 Like I'm taking a shot for this. You get me, 1:34:01.160 --> 1:34:05.080 you got shut come on the way you describe. 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:09.360 Sorry, keep going here, going strutting your phone? 1:34:10.280 --> 1:34:13.760 Does that seem like it's not like Guru hit me. 1:34:13.920 --> 1:34:17.560 Yeah, I don't know one, but listen showed me the 1:34:17.640 --> 1:34:20.360 whole you know what I'm saying, Like, this is little 1:34:20.360 --> 1:34:22.960 stuff I'm a fan of, Like even like when you 1:34:23.000 --> 1:34:27.439 say young girl, like rocker, rock girl, yeah, younger, Yeah, 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:28.400 and I. 1:34:28.439 --> 1:34:29.519 Heard you was in Disney World. 1:34:29.600 --> 1:34:31.240 Yeah I was in Disney you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:34.160 so like, yes, I remember, I'm a fan. 1:34:34.439 --> 1:34:34.920 I grew up. 1:34:34.920 --> 1:34:36.720 You can see I'm a fan now, like of the 1:34:36.840 --> 1:34:40.479 whole thing. You get me, like even like slip Rick, 1:34:41.120 --> 1:34:43.559 like manuged to listen to Lardie Darli and my walkman 1:34:43.760 --> 1:34:46.200 walking to with Slick Wick. You got to slip Reckcord. 1:34:46.200 --> 1:34:48.840 Where was you at? I can't I can't remember that 1:34:48.920 --> 1:34:51.880 one Universus Studios. I can't remember that. I'm not gonna lie, 1:34:51.920 --> 1:34:54.439 I'll be lying. I can't remember. But I just remember 1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:57.439 when I got that the slip Wrists. I'm like, this 1:34:57.560 --> 1:35:00.599 is slip Rick, that one after Diverse. You're saying, yeah, 1:35:00.760 --> 1:35:02.960 but I just said, call my mom and that that's 1:35:03.040 --> 1:35:04.040 them one that mom. 1:35:04.080 --> 1:35:05.000 I got to Slick, you know. 1:35:06.360 --> 1:35:08.360 Like he's like the first twenty one Savage. If you 1:35:08.400 --> 1:35:08.880 think about it. 1:35:11.520 --> 1:35:17.040 He is. Yeah, that's bro. That's great bro. You know 1:35:17.600 --> 1:35:20.360 d people don't even know he's English. Right, yeah, even 1:35:20.960 --> 1:35:23.240 we never kind of denied it. Even my l she 1:35:23.400 --> 1:35:24.400 was like, right, it's from u K. 1:35:24.840 --> 1:35:27.200 They were trying to they were trying to deport him. 1:35:27.280 --> 1:35:29.439 It was a big old there was a big movement. 1:35:29.960 --> 1:35:32.519 Why does Slick go back to jail? I think it 1:35:32.600 --> 1:35:33.240 was a gun? 1:35:33.439 --> 1:35:34.400 Was a gun gun too? 1:35:34.520 --> 1:35:39.000 You think, yeah, yeah, you're following his steps, yeah yeah, yeah, 1:35:39.920 --> 1:35:43.800 yeah yeah yeah so yeah, that like bro man man 1:35:43.920 --> 1:35:46.800 is walking to school listening to Lardie D And that's 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:50.920 my classic. You know, I would have never ever fought 1:35:51.760 --> 1:35:54.439 in the future walking to school. I'm going to have 1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:55.400 that in my phone. 1:35:55.560 --> 1:35:56.840 Family. You know what I'm saying. 1:35:56.920 --> 1:35:58.439 Ye know yourself. 1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:00.760 Let me you know what I mean. 1:36:01.840 --> 1:36:06.040 Out here we say college, yeah, yeah, say university like 1:36:06.120 --> 1:36:06.880 we say vacation. 1:36:07.320 --> 1:36:10.880 Also, I mean, but we got we usually we got 1:36:10.920 --> 1:36:15.640 we got school, yeah, and then college and then university. 1:36:16.400 --> 1:36:19.280 So you finished school, when you finished school when you're sixteen, 1:36:20.120 --> 1:36:21.120 then you go college. 1:36:21.320 --> 1:36:22.360 Is that community college? 1:36:22.640 --> 1:36:26.200 No, it's just like it's like you university really kind 1:36:26.240 --> 1:36:29.599 of thing. But we don't have like I don't really think. Yeah, 1:36:29.680 --> 1:36:31.160 people don't really like state. 1:36:31.920 --> 1:36:34.080 We don't haven't. They don't have like campuses and that. 1:36:34.520 --> 1:36:35.280 So it's just college. 1:36:35.320 --> 1:36:37.880 You just go there and in UNI you have to 1:36:38.080 --> 1:36:40.720 level up to get to UNI, and that's when there's 1:36:40.760 --> 1:36:41.560 like campuses. 1:36:42.720 --> 1:36:42.920 Yeah. 1:36:42.960 --> 1:36:46.640 Yeah, and we say vacation, you'll say holiday. Okay, But 1:36:46.760 --> 1:36:50.120 let me ask you a question on Slick Rick's children's story. 1:36:50.280 --> 1:36:54.759 He said, crash into a tree near university. The biggest 1:36:54.840 --> 1:36:57.120 debate is now I have not been able to ask. 1:36:57.240 --> 1:37:01.040 Look Rick, do you think he was talking about You 1:37:01.120 --> 1:37:03.760 think he was talking about university in the Bronx the street. 1:37:03.800 --> 1:37:05.479 I think he's saw about the street. It sounds like 1:37:06.360 --> 1:37:09.599 him having an accent. It must be America. It got 1:37:09.680 --> 1:37:13.479 you to even someone said, why, it's like savage. He 1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:16.320 hasn't even got English because he grew up in America. Okay, 1:37:16.600 --> 1:37:19.200 you know what I'm saying, You're going to get an accent. Okay, yeah, 1:37:19.280 --> 1:37:21.400 me like so he must he must have grow up 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:25.000 from here from young probably, but you'd have to ask him. 1:37:25.200 --> 1:37:26.840 Yeah, no, No, I don't want to ask him. 1:37:26.840 --> 1:37:27.160 I want to. 1:37:27.280 --> 1:37:30.840 I wanted this to be a mysterious well for a saying. 1:37:30.840 --> 1:37:33.200 I thought he was on the rock the bells call, 1:37:33.280 --> 1:37:37.639 but he wasn't. No, we had man legends on there. 1:37:37.960 --> 1:37:40.120 Did you see I can? I saw a rock he yeah, 1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:42.320 that was dopeg a chaffer rock here. 1:37:42.360 --> 1:37:49.879 Yeah, just left Bill. 1:37:51.760 --> 1:37:58.040 This mix. So this is my thing though the Ross 1:37:58.120 --> 1:38:00.160 Clark Mama, Yeah on. 1:38:00.400 --> 1:38:07.400 Mama, Yeah, it's you said. You said your girl is Dominican. 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:09.080 You know that. 1:38:09.479 --> 1:38:16.200 That's also for Yeah, if you tell the well, it's 1:38:16.200 --> 1:38:17.160 a thing for the thing. 1:38:19.240 --> 1:38:22.600 We saying for the well. So all right, so. 1:38:24.920 --> 1:38:30.040 We say yan day and y'alla. So y'all, y'all we 1:38:30.200 --> 1:38:31.360 say you lo okay. 1:38:31.880 --> 1:38:33.920 So for the people that don't know, you're gonna describe 1:38:33.960 --> 1:38:37.720 the people. A thing is a noun, right, it's a 1:38:37.800 --> 1:38:39.040 person talking about a girl. 1:38:39.080 --> 1:38:45.200 And thing is everything. Thing is could be you go 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:45.720 the thing. 1:38:45.960 --> 1:38:48.719 Yeah, you go to that. You could be doing the thing. 1:38:50.920 --> 1:38:53.960 Or a thing like them things over there. You know 1:38:54.680 --> 1:39:00.679 things you're gonna go on linked this thing right, thing, yes, everything, Yeah. 1:39:00.960 --> 1:39:03.160 We can say it with things. It's the same word. 1:39:06.400 --> 1:39:07.759 With no listen. 1:39:09.600 --> 1:39:15.000 With take that anh out of there. It's just a marriage. 1:39:17.520 --> 1:39:20.439 From Miami, I mean not from Miami, but you brought 1:39:21.800 --> 1:39:23.479 you know what I'm saying. 1:39:23.840 --> 1:39:30.320 Yeah, yeah, we're everything actually everything everything black college like college, 1:39:30.960 --> 1:39:34.519 I can it's the colleage normal, you know, college Jamaican. 1:39:34.600 --> 1:39:35.400 Let's just throw it out there. 1:39:36.320 --> 1:39:36.799 He made. 1:39:38.960 --> 1:39:41.280 He went to Barbados the other day. He had a 1:39:41.360 --> 1:39:45.000 better Jamaican accent than the bar bab don't. 1:39:48.920 --> 1:39:54.840 Exactly. It's almost looked at him like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:55.360 ya min. 1:39:56.000 --> 1:39:58.960 He said, you just got the college. 1:39:59.280 --> 1:40:03.599 He has earned his wife to his right, he has 1:40:03.720 --> 1:40:07.760 earned his right to be an honorary yard man. Yeah, 1:40:08.439 --> 1:40:11.840 he has earned his way I vote listen for the 1:40:11.920 --> 1:40:12.719 Jamaican society. 1:40:14.080 --> 1:40:18.720 Let me look at y'all, look at look at to 1:40:18.720 --> 1:40:20.280 the Jamaican count listening to Jamaica. 1:40:28.640 --> 1:40:35.280 Right to the right on the left bun side, right 1:40:36.439 --> 1:40:40.720 to the Jamaican Society. I have interviewed Buju Bantan, I 1:40:40.800 --> 1:40:44.920 have interviewed Beanie Man, I have interviewed it wasn't me 1:40:46.920 --> 1:40:52.519 shut bro, And I've interviewed the God, the God the world, 1:40:52.600 --> 1:40:59.640 Boss Botts Cartel. And to the Jamaican Society, I. 1:41:01.520 --> 1:41:02.479 Ron don't forget wrong. 1:41:03.600 --> 1:41:09.920 That's right that you guys make call it yea, let's 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:16.880 make up. I'll say Calid made himself, madehimself, you know, 1:41:17.600 --> 1:41:19.439 you know, kind of saving me, you know kid, I 1:41:19.560 --> 1:41:21.040 know Khalid from Dancel. 1:41:21.320 --> 1:41:24.320 Yes, he made his way through even from. 1:41:24.200 --> 1:41:33.160 West Jersey jazz and renaissance. Yeahs z over there. That's 1:41:33.479 --> 1:41:37.240 that's why the g he don't even say nothing, you 1:41:37.280 --> 1:41:39.479 know what I'm saying. But like even so, like even 1:41:39.520 --> 1:41:45.080 the other there I posted the picture with like Cartel, Kalid, Yeah, 1:41:45.479 --> 1:41:48.120 that's amazing, bounty but. 1:41:48.439 --> 1:41:50.560 Quick because he said renaissance and people don't know we 1:41:50.600 --> 1:41:52.120 talk about we talking about sounds. 1:41:52.680 --> 1:41:56.840 Yeah, renaissance sound yeah, d J cruise like the sounds. Yeah, 1:41:57.000 --> 1:42:00.599 so I posted that picture because obviously that picture is crazy. 1:42:00.920 --> 1:42:02.800 That's like the new firm in our face, not even 1:42:02.840 --> 1:42:03.400 a new firm. 1:42:03.479 --> 1:42:07.040 That's like just I don't know, there's just so much, 1:42:07.520 --> 1:42:09.800 so much history, so much history that. 1:42:10.240 --> 1:42:12.760 But like mad people are saying our wives klid there, 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:16.720 why but I see Calidar, That's what I'm saying. I 1:42:16.840 --> 1:42:21.360 know Kalid from dance or first like even I remember, 1:42:22.439 --> 1:42:26.080 you know, I'm saying continue, continue, just I'm saying, yes, 1:42:26.320 --> 1:42:29.000 calid I remember, I used to listen to Renaissance, that 1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:34.240 jazzy tea Stone Love Renaissance. Then I used to hear Kalid, 1:42:34.760 --> 1:42:37.680 and these are cassette tapes. So I used to hear 1:42:37.800 --> 1:42:39.800 Kalid and he used to like Kalid used to be 1:42:40.160 --> 1:42:41.000 top places. 1:42:42.360 --> 1:42:45.200 Ninety six. There was a big Caribbean station, Pirate station. 1:42:45.439 --> 1:42:47.040 Yeah, but college radio. 1:42:48.320 --> 1:42:51.639 So them days there, Kalid used to have bare Bounty 1:42:51.720 --> 1:42:54.519 killer doves. Now you see them days there. To have 1:42:54.680 --> 1:42:57.639 bounty who don't know doves is like a free player. 1:42:58.720 --> 1:43:00.760 That's not a free start, and you take the song 1:43:00.840 --> 1:43:02.200 and you make yeah. 1:43:03.040 --> 1:43:08.320 Especially just they would they would, they would, they're saying 1:43:08.360 --> 1:43:09.280 your name on the record. 1:43:09.479 --> 1:43:11.720 They're taking a popular record that they got already and 1:43:11.760 --> 1:43:12.920 they're adding you to the record. 1:43:13.680 --> 1:43:17.040 Freestyle really the top of the head. 1:43:17.760 --> 1:43:19.840 That started changing a lot to that changed. 1:43:20.000 --> 1:43:23.760 Yeah, but anyway, but yeah, so Khalid he's that bare 1:43:23.840 --> 1:43:26.920 bounty killer. Bare means a lot, yea. So he's that 1:43:27.120 --> 1:43:30.880 bare bounty in them days, bounty at the higher bout. 1:43:30.960 --> 1:43:34.679 In them days, you couldn't even to have a bounty dub. 1:43:34.760 --> 1:43:38.040 You had to have money and relate the relationship. You 1:43:38.080 --> 1:43:41.160 couldn't just have the money that this is bounty, like 1:43:41.280 --> 1:43:43.679 you know what I'm saying. Yes, and Khalid had bare 1:43:43.760 --> 1:43:47.439 bounty douves. And remember even on cassette tapes, I used 1:43:47.439 --> 1:43:50.400 to listen and Khalid he'll be He'll like come on 1:43:50.680 --> 1:43:55.559 after renaissance, after renaissances fucked it up, like mashed up 1:43:55.600 --> 1:43:58.160 the whole dance. Calid is coming on there. He's American, 1:43:59.120 --> 1:44:02.280 so like because he wasn't Jamaican, they used to do 1:44:02.520 --> 1:44:04.520 him like boo boo American. 1:44:04.680 --> 1:44:05.599 Well with that fro. 1:44:05.680 --> 1:44:10.200 Bottles and Kalid was still playing music, still lacing bear 1:44:10.360 --> 1:44:14.360 doves until he gets until it gets the respects man 1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:17.679 of fraend Bottles. He's a bottles glass, this is Jamaica, 1:44:18.280 --> 1:44:21.639 bear machines and let me he's still running and he's 1:44:21.720 --> 1:44:25.640 playing Bounty Killer Doves what not. Everyone can play. You 1:44:25.680 --> 1:44:28.320 know what I'm saying, Beef at the time now, because 1:44:28.320 --> 1:44:29.040 I'm saying you have to. 1:44:29.400 --> 1:44:35.479 Get it's hard to get like that's like, yeah, exactly, 1:44:36.160 --> 1:44:39.160 you can't just get a jay Z, even if you 1:44:39.200 --> 1:44:40.680 had all the money in the world, you can't get 1:44:40.680 --> 1:44:42.680 a jay Z, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And 1:44:42.800 --> 1:44:46.800 that's Kalid had the bounties and bear other yeah. 1:44:46.920 --> 1:44:49.599 Yeah, and he used to play until they stopped booing him, 1:44:49.600 --> 1:44:51.080 stop from balls and cheer him. 1:44:52.120 --> 1:44:54.439 And he would have like he used to make like 1:44:55.080 --> 1:44:59.280 hip hop kind of like that, Who Run It? Who 1:44:59.400 --> 1:44:59.720 Run It? 1:44:59.840 --> 1:44:59.880 Like? 1:45:00.720 --> 1:45:04.439 So Khalid Like so even in that picture, Khalid is 1:45:04.520 --> 1:45:08.679 actually in the middle of this picture historically like Butcher 1:45:09.120 --> 1:45:15.519 and found a Khalid then well maybe cartel because he's 1:45:15.560 --> 1:45:18.960 to that right for kit Bop, Khalid is in the middle. 1:45:19.240 --> 1:45:21.320 And then Mavardo, you know what I'm saying. So Kalid 1:45:21.680 --> 1:45:23.360 is a he definitely earned his job. 1:45:24.160 --> 1:45:26.519 It was through dance all like and do you know 1:45:26.600 --> 1:45:29.920 the things A lot of people won't understand that route 1:45:29.960 --> 1:45:32.840 because in Miami, but brilliant hip hop and a lot 1:45:32.880 --> 1:45:36.000 of the United States, a lot of the DJs had 1:45:36.120 --> 1:45:38.240 they was dealing there was you had to be versed, 1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:41.280 well versed in dance hall if you was playing hip 1:45:41.280 --> 1:45:43.120 hop as well, because back in the day it was 1:45:43.600 --> 1:45:45.960 a lot of the dance hall parties were where we 1:45:46.040 --> 1:45:46.960 got to hear hip hop. 1:45:47.160 --> 1:45:48.200 Okay is it? 1:45:48.560 --> 1:45:51.639 Yeah? At least definitely in Miami for sure. That's crazy, 1:45:51.680 --> 1:45:52.840 you know what I'm saying. And then that's how you 1:45:52.880 --> 1:45:54.479 see what there was that bad yard. 1:45:54.320 --> 1:45:55.160 Man head times. 1:45:57.000 --> 1:45:58.760 So like like me, like my first gig that I 1:45:58.800 --> 1:46:00.920 got as a DJ, I'm this Cuban kid, was me 1:46:01.280 --> 1:46:02.880 having forty five straight from Jamaica. 1:46:03.160 --> 1:46:05.240 So your Cuban yeah, plane a dance hall. 1:46:05.160 --> 1:46:08.160 Set to get my first DJ. Yeah, that's how I 1:46:08.200 --> 1:46:10.840 got my first DJ. I had a mean dance hall set. 1:46:10.960 --> 1:46:12.240 Yeah. Yeah, that's sick, that's it. 1:46:12.360 --> 1:46:14.960 And so yeah, he killed it back then. 1:46:15.080 --> 1:46:17.599 Jazzy should have been in that picture though, Big up Jazzy, 1:46:18.240 --> 1:46:19.640 that man there is in the. 1:46:19.720 --> 1:46:20.320 Center of that. 1:46:20.400 --> 1:46:23.400 I mean, renaissance is legendary, legendary. 1:46:23.840 --> 1:46:26.160 Even like when I first I remember when I first 1:46:26.280 --> 1:46:29.800 like got money and clout, I remember one time we 1:46:29.960 --> 1:46:32.599 was having like so he was having like big parties 1:46:32.640 --> 1:46:34.759 in London. Yeah, so it was like me and Drake. 1:46:34.960 --> 1:46:39.599 Yeah so me and Drake, I was we was doing wireless. Yeah, 1:46:39.760 --> 1:46:43.519 so like it was that Kalid was actually meant to 1:46:43.600 --> 1:46:47.040 do wireless. By then you didn't really like the planeting yea, yeah, 1:46:47.680 --> 1:46:50.120 so I took Calid slot. 1:46:51.000 --> 1:46:52.320 Then I brought out. 1:46:52.320 --> 1:46:56.240 Drake as a surprise after yeah yeah yeah, then we 1:46:56.320 --> 1:46:58.479 were so it was having big parties in London. This 1:46:58.640 --> 1:47:01.080 is the mad thing, like this is gigs, Drake, like 1:47:01.160 --> 1:47:03.760 we just mashed up wireless, like you get me. So 1:47:03.920 --> 1:47:06.560 I was saying to Dre Yo, I'm gonna have the 1:47:06.840 --> 1:47:09.320 Mad party. After Drake saying what I'm gonna have the 1:47:09.479 --> 1:47:14.200 Mather party start saying all right, so now we're having 1:47:14.280 --> 1:47:15.240 like a party war. 1:47:16.400 --> 1:47:19.120 You get me here. So I said, yeah, how can 1:47:19.160 --> 1:47:21.519 I have the maddest party? You get me? So then 1:47:21.560 --> 1:47:22.120 I've hit up. 1:47:22.920 --> 1:47:24.560 I said, do you know what, I've got money and 1:47:24.560 --> 1:47:27.880 now I've got contacts, get Renaissance, you get me. 1:47:28.880 --> 1:47:31.960 So I've hit up like I've got the link for Jazzy's. 1:47:33.320 --> 1:47:37.040 People, and then I've hit up Jazzy's people to get 1:47:37.120 --> 1:47:38.120 renaissance down there. 1:47:38.160 --> 1:47:40.080 You get me? This is mad for me. 1:47:40.120 --> 1:47:42.880 It's a renaissance, bro, like you see me a lot 1:47:42.880 --> 1:47:46.000 of people I'm dancing first like yeah me, and it's 1:47:46.040 --> 1:47:48.880 a renaissance like yeh me, this is the same thing 1:47:49.000 --> 1:47:51.560 like Man's bringing hove over to before you get me. 1:47:52.840 --> 1:47:57.080 So then I've linked with renaissance now. And I said 1:47:57.120 --> 1:48:03.040 to Drizzy, man's got renaissance. Then Man was like, oh ship, 1:48:07.240 --> 1:48:10.679 then I must have invited like me and my breads 1:48:10.680 --> 1:48:13.880 and about three four hundred things like bodies. You get me, 1:48:14.439 --> 1:48:18.680 got some big venue renaissance, big girl I had like 1:48:19.320 --> 1:48:22.519 every bad man in London was there, like and most 1:48:22.600 --> 1:48:25.760 of the artists from UK as well, and there was 1:48:25.840 --> 1:48:29.800 bare like big American artists. I remember, like and and 1:48:29.920 --> 1:48:32.760 then made Jazzy come down. He fucked it up and 1:48:33.000 --> 1:48:35.360 like you get me like and I remember all the ovo. 1:48:35.479 --> 1:48:39.200 Man then kept saying, Yo, what times renaissance? Like what 1:48:39.400 --> 1:48:42.479 tis renaissance? You know what I'm saying? Like, but that's 1:48:42.560 --> 1:48:42.840 that's the. 1:48:47.479 --> 1:48:53.840 Shot. I want that, Drake think you know, I want 1:48:53.880 --> 1:48:54.679 a Drake battle. 1:48:54.760 --> 1:49:00.880 I also won No, I want that. I feel like 1:49:00.880 --> 1:49:02.640 he's gonna watch this and say something about it. 1:49:03.680 --> 1:49:07.320 Never Okay, no he might. He might say, I agree, Well. 1:49:07.200 --> 1:49:09.280 Okay, you know what I mean. 1:49:10.280 --> 1:49:11.200 Can I get some paper? 1:49:11.680 --> 1:49:11.880 Yeah? 1:49:14.520 --> 1:49:14.880 I got one. 1:49:15.040 --> 1:49:17.360 Go and now do you roll with Fanta and your 1:49:17.360 --> 1:49:17.840 ship or no? 1:49:17.960 --> 1:49:21.680 Fanto? Grab grab That's that's a New York that's a 1:49:21.800 --> 1:49:25.280 New York thing though, well grab off the grabber. So 1:49:25.479 --> 1:49:29.360 before I came here in UK, we were with cigarette. Okay, yeah, 1:49:29.479 --> 1:49:32.440 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so we were with cigarette. 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:36.760 So then then one time I didn't have cigarettes for 1:49:36.800 --> 1:49:37.080 a while. 1:49:37.200 --> 1:49:37.519 Yeah me. 1:49:37.720 --> 1:49:40.000 Then I then someone I said I fuck it, let 1:49:40.040 --> 1:49:43.200 me use this grab ship. And then then I was 1:49:43.320 --> 1:49:46.480 using grabber for a few days. Then I fought a cigarette. 1:49:46.479 --> 1:49:48.520 I need some cigarette. I went back get the cigarette 1:49:48.640 --> 1:49:50.680 was nasty. I was like, this is nasty because the 1:49:50.680 --> 1:49:51.719 cigarette from America. 1:49:52.080 --> 1:49:54.760 No, it's just like the grabber. It just tastes nice. 1:49:54.920 --> 1:49:57.800 Okay. So I just threw the cigarette away and I'm like, yeah, 1:49:57.800 --> 1:50:00.600 I'm grabbing now, you know what I'm saying, Like, like 1:50:00.720 --> 1:50:03.000 you see, like me, I'm the original street. 1:50:02.840 --> 1:50:05.360 Nigga who made it. Yeah in London. 1:50:05.560 --> 1:50:09.720 Yeah, so like me being here, all the niggas are like, 1:50:09.760 --> 1:50:10.439 how do you get there? 1:50:11.240 --> 1:50:14.360 Let me get that lawyer. All the niggas everywhere I go, 1:50:14.520 --> 1:50:15.919 niggas who I don't get along. 1:50:15.760 --> 1:50:20.720 With, coming were saying about that lawyer like I'm telling you, bro, 1:50:21.160 --> 1:50:22.000 I'm going to get. 1:50:21.880 --> 1:50:23.960 Over here, like you know what I'm saying. 1:50:24.600 --> 1:50:27.040 I mean, I know this is an unfair question. And 1:50:27.200 --> 1:50:31.799 then man, who even get over here? Yeah, they're getting 1:50:31.840 --> 1:50:33.800 married and ship. Actually I'm talking too much. 1:50:35.840 --> 1:50:36.439 Let me stop. 1:50:42.280 --> 1:50:42.720 This is this. 1:50:45.200 --> 1:50:54.600 Cop couple of Miami chicks, niggas writing track, write the 1:50:54.640 --> 1:50:55.200 moby track. 1:50:57.080 --> 1:51:03.800 They'll make a deal, will be ball park on your ass. 1:51:04.400 --> 1:51:09.040 The price is right, you know, got the bodies. 1:51:09.120 --> 1:51:13.840 Though it's mad over here, the Dominicans, I'm gott mad 1:51:13.920 --> 1:51:14.360 over here. 1:51:15.160 --> 1:51:18.120 I can't believe it. I can't believe it. 1:51:18.400 --> 1:51:21.479 Cubans mean I had once I had. Let me not 1:51:21.560 --> 1:51:24.160 talk about it like that. One time I was linking 1:51:24.240 --> 1:51:27.479 a Cuban and Jamaican, like what kind of mixes that? 1:51:28.200 --> 1:51:28.880 That's maud. 1:51:29.400 --> 1:51:31.559 She's angry though, definitely angry. 1:51:32.240 --> 1:51:32.920 I know where. 1:51:34.320 --> 1:51:35.400 There was one woman. 1:51:37.200 --> 1:51:43.000 One thought you had too. I needn't seen that. 1:51:44.960 --> 1:51:47.320 Okay, together together. 1:51:51.360 --> 1:51:55.320 He said, together as one woman, because what I meant 1:51:55.479 --> 1:51:59.320 was I thought women is Cuban and. 1:52:00.960 --> 1:52:02.960 Make it. I'm like Okay, that sounds like a. 1:52:02.960 --> 1:52:05.880 Great night for you. But you're saying one. 1:52:08.000 --> 1:52:12.479 Sound clash makes his hair even beliezing. I've never met 1:52:12.520 --> 1:52:13.080 a beliez in. 1:52:13.920 --> 1:52:14.240 That's a. 1:52:15.720 --> 1:52:18.040 See s Beliza. 1:52:20.160 --> 1:52:24.080 Heard you say something different brought you see sh No 1:52:24.880 --> 1:52:26.200 what we got? 1:52:27.040 --> 1:52:27.840 I believe. 1:52:29.160 --> 1:52:30.519 I really want to get over here? 1:52:30.720 --> 1:52:37.000 Yes, So then do you because like all the all 1:52:37.040 --> 1:52:40.000 the Jamaicans have their visas right now, right, what do 1:52:40.080 --> 1:52:46.719 you mean like old vibes my bottle, That's what it's about. 1:52:46.800 --> 1:52:48.680 Like that, you have to have a visa to come here. 1:52:48.680 --> 1:52:51.160 You gotta get a visa, like if you if you've 1:52:51.160 --> 1:52:54.960 got a criminal record, if you haven't got a criminal record, 1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:55.760 you can get star. 1:52:56.640 --> 1:52:56.920 What's that? 1:52:57.680 --> 1:53:01.040 It's just like it's just easy to get in the 1:53:01.120 --> 1:53:03.240 country because you're not a criminal. You don't like you 1:53:03.280 --> 1:53:06.120 know what I'm saying, You're not a threat or anything? Right? 1:53:07.200 --> 1:53:09.479 Just Esther, he just do that. Like if I'm coming 1:53:09.479 --> 1:53:11.600 with my kids, I've got my visa. I do my 1:53:11.720 --> 1:53:12.439 kids Esthers. 1:53:12.840 --> 1:53:13.400 I never heard that. 1:53:13.560 --> 1:53:16.080 Yeah, that's what that's what we got. So so you've 1:53:16.080 --> 1:53:20.200 got Esther's. But the criminals, who is most of the 1:53:20.280 --> 1:53:22.320 man name need a visa. 1:53:22.560 --> 1:53:23.719 It's a temporary visa. 1:53:24.560 --> 1:53:27.280 Yeah, like you get a year, two years, three years, 1:53:27.920 --> 1:53:33.559 But like there's different visas. Is working visa Like even 1:53:33.640 --> 1:53:36.360 coming over here, I've met people with different visas that 1:53:36.439 --> 1:53:38.720 there's another guy who's got like a property visa. He 1:53:38.800 --> 1:53:42.160 does property out here, so he's got a visa. You 1:53:42.240 --> 1:53:46.880 know what I'm saying. Yeah, school, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, 1:53:46.880 --> 1:53:50.040 it's different visas. But that's like the man ain't going 1:53:50.120 --> 1:53:52.920 to be criminals though, the criminal team, you know what 1:53:52.960 --> 1:53:53.320 I'm saying. 1:53:53.920 --> 1:53:57.920 Yeah, whatever visa Vibes Cartel got, he's never going back. 1:54:00.080 --> 1:54:01.120 He got that goodsa. 1:54:02.200 --> 1:54:02.640 He got that. 1:54:03.960 --> 1:54:05.799 He comes into America because he's. 1:54:08.880 --> 1:54:12.280 Yeah, Vegas. 1:54:14.920 --> 1:54:18.120 Everywhere, he's helping the economy everywhere, everywhere you go. 1:54:18.320 --> 1:54:21.840 Vibell Clean vives he probably already had the visa in 1:54:21.920 --> 1:54:25.160 it from before and then he went and he went 1:54:25.200 --> 1:54:27.320 to jail. Oh yeah, the reverse, but then he was 1:54:27.560 --> 1:54:30.360 then he was then he was innocen. So really oh yes, 1:54:31.720 --> 1:54:36.080 that's right. Oh he never he never do they give 1:54:36.120 --> 1:54:37.040 him his visa back. 1:54:37.360 --> 1:54:37.800 That's true. 1:54:38.080 --> 1:54:40.840 He got he got, he got the proper visa. He 1:54:40.960 --> 1:54:43.160 got the proper as he as he deserves. 1:54:43.360 --> 1:54:48.000 That motherfucker been everywhere and he's been posting it too. 1:54:48.200 --> 1:54:50.560 Now he killing the game like a y n that 1:54:50.760 --> 1:54:53.920 Nigga's been like that he out so he's doing the 1:54:54.000 --> 1:54:54.840 master his thing. 1:54:57.160 --> 1:55:01.640 I'm like, Holy Ship Vibs is living his the flipping life. 1:55:02.360 --> 1:55:14.760 Well no, this makes some noise for Visus Holy Ship. 1:55:15.400 --> 1:55:17.720 So it's anything you would take back? What would you do? 1:55:18.480 --> 1:55:18.920 Take back? 1:55:19.000 --> 1:55:20.880 Take back like in the game like that you regret, 1:55:20.960 --> 1:55:25.760 regret it doing. I regret nothing. I'm me, Okay, you can't. 1:55:26.480 --> 1:55:28.640 That's you know what I mean. Everything you go for 1:55:28.840 --> 1:55:32.280 is for a reason. That's what creates you, you know 1:55:32.320 --> 1:55:32.640 what I mean. 1:55:32.840 --> 1:55:37.320 So yeah, definitely not y'all seen the I was watching 1:55:38.280 --> 1:55:41.160 a podcast on YouTube that I watched my homie Justin 1:55:41.280 --> 1:55:42.880 Hunt the aka the Company Man. 1:55:42.880 --> 1:55:44.000 They were talking about skeptic. 1:55:44.880 --> 1:55:48.360 That's he's he's throwing shots at trying to like do 1:55:48.520 --> 1:55:50.920 like like a battle with American artists. 1:55:51.280 --> 1:55:55.480 Oh like Joey Badass in a way that Joey Badass challenged. 1:55:55.520 --> 1:55:59.360 So yeah, I guess not like it's not it's just battle. 1:55:59.760 --> 1:56:00.840 What about that? 1:56:00.960 --> 1:56:01.160 Yeah? 1:56:01.400 --> 1:56:04.280 For me, that's not really familiar with that, like and 1:56:04.360 --> 1:56:08.080 stuff like I'm not really I'm too emotional. 1:56:07.720 --> 1:56:10.480 For that, Yeah, it's not for everybody. 1:56:11.880 --> 1:56:14.880 Yeah, I can't keep me eye of that. 1:56:15.120 --> 1:56:18.480 Like I think Lucas jumped in on it. Wait, I 1:56:18.480 --> 1:56:19.160 haven't heard of this. 1:56:19.760 --> 1:56:23.080 Yeah, shout out to Justin Hunt who covered it likes 1:56:23.160 --> 1:56:28.520 he's like he's like Markman, okay, and so yeah, it's 1:56:28.560 --> 1:56:30.200 just it's just funny because there's this whole thing is 1:56:30.240 --> 1:56:33.400 supposed to be, like they're labeling as US against UK. Yes, 1:56:33.920 --> 1:56:37.120 like you see like me personally, I know you say 1:56:37.160 --> 1:56:39.360 you feel like you're too emotional like me. 1:56:39.480 --> 1:56:46.400 Personally, I don't like like I've got American regends, Canadian, Jamaican, 1:56:46.680 --> 1:56:51.240 Beijian guy Andese like Trainer that didn't bridget Like I 1:56:51.320 --> 1:56:54.160 look at us one thing, you know what I'm saying, 1:56:54.760 --> 1:56:58.880 So even in music, like I look at myself as 1:56:58.960 --> 1:57:01.560 one of the best anyway. I don't like need to 1:57:01.640 --> 1:57:05.240 be like, oh yeah, like I need to go against us, 1:57:05.440 --> 1:57:07.240 like I'm like, you know what I'm saying, I'm on 1:57:07.320 --> 1:57:09.880 the same level anyway, right, I don't need to like 1:57:11.520 --> 1:57:13.880 separate things like you know what I'm saying, It's all 1:57:13.960 --> 1:57:16.920 one thing, Like you don't need to like say, yeah, 1:57:17.040 --> 1:57:19.000 US versus them, and like you know what I mean 1:57:19.320 --> 1:57:23.040 I think like we've got cold UK rapper, we've got 1:57:23.080 --> 1:57:25.520 cold US rappers, we've got shipped UK rapper. 1:57:25.880 --> 1:57:27.920 You like, you know what I'm saying. I agree, you 1:57:27.960 --> 1:57:30.960 know what I mean. It's like the separating thing and 1:57:31.160 --> 1:57:34.120 like oh yeah, us versus that. I don't really you 1:57:34.200 --> 1:57:34.560 know what I mean. 1:57:34.840 --> 1:57:36.240 I mean there is a place I was just like 1:57:36.400 --> 1:57:38.480 healthy competition too though, yeah. 1:57:38.680 --> 1:57:38.760 But. 1:57:40.880 --> 1:57:44.200 I don't think like it needs to be us versus 1:57:44.440 --> 1:57:46.800 them though, Right, you know what I'm saying, like like 1:57:47.080 --> 1:57:51.160 put that way, yeah, because it's supposed like it's supposed 1:57:51.160 --> 1:57:53.240 to be just looking at yourself as the greatest of 1:57:53.320 --> 1:57:55.840 all time, right, you know what I'm saying. 1:57:56.160 --> 1:57:58.160 Right, You see, like when I see. 1:57:58.040 --> 1:58:02.240 Like I don't know, for example, if I see like 1:58:03.240 --> 1:58:07.160 like Nicki Minaj, like yeah, say, like I don't know, 1:58:07.760 --> 1:58:10.760 like no disrespects and Nikki is just fooling that. But 1:58:11.000 --> 1:58:14.280 like if I see like that, when Nikki will be 1:58:14.720 --> 1:58:20.960 going at like Cardi or something, yeah, I think like Nikki, 1:58:21.200 --> 1:58:23.160 like you're one of the greatest rappers. 1:58:23.200 --> 1:58:24.040 There's no need for it. 1:58:24.240 --> 1:58:26.720 No, no, no, there's no you're one of the greatest rappers. 1:58:27.720 --> 1:58:31.840 Like forget female, like you're one of the best, right, 1:58:32.120 --> 1:58:33.440 you know what I'm saying. You don't have to like 1:58:33.680 --> 1:58:38.040 because there's another female, go up against this other female, 1:58:38.320 --> 1:58:39.440 because you're one of the best. 1:58:40.160 --> 1:58:41.640 You're like Kanye. 1:58:41.840 --> 1:58:46.080 You smoke Kanye songs, Drake songs, like fucking Chains like 1:58:46.240 --> 1:58:49.520 them even like I don't know, say like, yeah, I 1:58:49.640 --> 1:58:53.960 love them strippers like to Chains and Nicki Minaj, Yeah 1:58:54.080 --> 1:58:58.040 them times Chains was smoking everything in his way in 1:58:58.200 --> 1:59:02.720 it like change them times boats time. Yeah, and Nikki 1:59:03.240 --> 1:59:06.400 smoked that song, Smoke that. That's one of my favorite 1:59:06.440 --> 1:59:08.760 Nikki versus you're one of the greatest. 1:59:08.920 --> 1:59:14.200 Like, so I feel like when you're like just putting 1:59:14.240 --> 1:59:14.800 yourself in the. 1:59:14.920 --> 1:59:18.560 Female category, it's just lower in your tail yourself. Yeah, 1:59:18.720 --> 1:59:22.120 like when you're one of the greatest of full time. Like, so, 1:59:22.200 --> 1:59:24.880 I don't need to be like UK versus your like 1:59:25.040 --> 1:59:26.600 to prove not to me. I know, I'm one of 1:59:26.640 --> 1:59:29.160 the coldest, right you know what I'm saying that, So 1:59:29.320 --> 1:59:32.000 that doesn't really involve me, you know what I mean. 1:59:32.080 --> 1:59:32.840 I see what you're saying. 1:59:32.920 --> 1:59:36.280 Yeah, but that's so cool for skephin that way he 1:59:36.320 --> 1:59:38.880 wants to do not saying that, But that's that's not 1:59:39.040 --> 1:59:41.320 really my ship, you know. 1:59:41.320 --> 1:59:41.600 What I mean. 1:59:42.280 --> 1:59:44.280 I watch it and be entertained, but I ain't like 1:59:45.000 --> 1:59:49.000 admiting one of the greatest you know what I mean, 1:59:50.800 --> 1:59:51.960 one of the other's records. 1:59:52.080 --> 1:59:52.600 You've got. 1:59:54.080 --> 1:59:57.880 It's what Diddy? Yeah, how did that come about? 2:00:00.400 --> 2:00:02.000 That was man? 2:00:03.280 --> 2:00:07.520 I remember he had the the BT off the party 2:00:08.360 --> 2:00:11.720 after the show. Obviously you can have with the jokes, 2:00:11.720 --> 2:00:22.160 and that was after if Like, Bro, this is one 2:00:22.200 --> 2:00:25.880 of the best parties I've ever been. Honest, this is 2:00:25.920 --> 2:00:29.200 what it was mad, you know what I'm saying. I 2:00:29.240 --> 2:00:31.560 went to the party that was Obviously it's a sore 2:00:31.680 --> 2:00:34.880 subject and that, but me, I'm honest, bro, this party 2:00:35.040 --> 2:00:38.800 was mad. This is l a I've gone in. There's 2:00:38.920 --> 2:00:42.520 like the whole dance floor is like, fucking what's that show? 2:00:42.560 --> 2:00:44.600 You not used to have over it when people dance 2:00:44.680 --> 2:00:48.920 on the floor with the colors, the soul trained floor and. 2:00:49.000 --> 2:00:51.680 The soul trained floor with the colors, like and I 2:00:51.760 --> 2:00:53.280 ain't seen that ship in real life. 2:00:53.880 --> 2:00:56.160 You know, there was I'm like, everyone who you can 2:00:56.240 --> 2:01:00.880 think of is their bare bodies food truck with free 2:01:01.000 --> 2:01:02.440 food drinks. 2:01:03.480 --> 2:01:10.480 You know what I'm saying. This party was mad. Even 2:01:10.600 --> 2:01:13.240 I remember I said I had the drink stand off party. 2:01:13.680 --> 2:01:22.080 I was speaking my game, you know the one, and 2:01:22.160 --> 2:01:25.960 then this time I didn't even know Puff ten times 2:01:26.160 --> 2:01:30.800 yeah me, and then then boom, I see Puff. He 2:01:30.920 --> 2:01:33.640 came like halfway through the party him and I see 2:01:33.680 --> 2:01:38.080 him walking through him and Mary, and then I bumped 2:01:38.120 --> 2:01:39.880 into him and then he's like, bro. 2:01:39.880 --> 2:01:40.960 What the fuck are you doing there? 2:01:41.040 --> 2:01:45.040 Like yeah, I've been trying to get hold of You're 2:01:45.040 --> 2:01:46.240 still on coming London soon? 2:01:46.520 --> 2:01:46.840 Yeah me? 2:01:47.240 --> 2:01:49.920 Wow yeah, And then we linked like that and then 2:01:51.720 --> 2:01:54.440 then he was when he was coming to London, he 2:01:54.520 --> 2:01:58.400 wanted to a party. Obviously, man does the bats. I said, 2:01:58.600 --> 2:02:01.600 I'm actually do it. It was wireless times again, so 2:02:02.240 --> 2:02:04.600 I said we should do arting because I'm going to 2:02:04.680 --> 2:02:07.880 do a thing. You're going to do your party like 2:02:08.040 --> 2:02:10.800 it's going to clash, yeah me, we might as well 2:02:10.880 --> 2:02:13.000 bring it together and do the Then we had a 2:02:13.120 --> 2:02:17.800 party in the fucking football stadium football what was it 2:02:17.960 --> 2:02:19.560 staying marena, I watch. 2:02:24.120 --> 2:02:24.160 Me. 2:02:24.200 --> 2:02:27.160 We had a big party and that everyone was there, 2:02:28.120 --> 2:02:31.600 so like even like like if there's like jokes and 2:02:32.040 --> 2:02:36.760 everyone was at that party in England, you know, I 2:02:36.880 --> 2:02:38.400 was a mad thing, like you know what I'm saying. 2:02:38.920 --> 2:02:42.040 And then yeah, then I made them, the mand them, and. 2:02:42.120 --> 2:02:44.720 I said, yeah, like I would like them classic, like 2:02:45.760 --> 2:02:49.640 like did the vocals that you know, like I don't know, 2:02:49.800 --> 2:02:53.320 like I used to love like Rick Ross he said, 2:02:54.040 --> 2:02:56.960 remember Holy Ghost when he used to like do that 2:02:57.800 --> 2:02:59.360 I'm going there and that, you know. 2:02:59.600 --> 2:03:01.360 I said, I want you to do that a man's 2:03:01.400 --> 2:03:03.400 thing like and for me that was legendary. 2:03:03.880 --> 2:03:06.720 And he said on the intro, I'm in the ends 2:03:06.840 --> 2:03:07.160 right now. 2:03:07.320 --> 2:03:09.880 Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So that 2:03:10.000 --> 2:03:13.240 record is hard yeah yeah yeah for me, Bro, that 2:03:13.440 --> 2:03:15.400 was the man thing. Bro, I'm a fan of music. Bro, 2:03:16.000 --> 2:03:17.520 you know what I'm saying, Like, you get me so 2:03:18.760 --> 2:03:23.240 yeah me even like obviously that everyone makes like the 2:03:23.440 --> 2:03:27.200 jokes and that, but for me, like all the man legends, 2:03:27.280 --> 2:03:29.440 like you know what I'm saying, you get me so 2:03:30.560 --> 2:03:33.000 so like I don't want to see like none of 2:03:33.120 --> 2:03:35.360 the legends, like you can't take it with look, yeah, 2:03:35.480 --> 2:03:37.480 I don't want to see none of that from like 2:03:37.880 --> 2:03:39.760 you know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, like let's take that. 2:03:39.800 --> 2:03:42.520 And they said when they were that stuff, I see 2:03:42.560 --> 2:03:43.360 people saying. 2:03:43.320 --> 2:03:47.160 Oh's next. I figure, fucking know what's he doing now? 2:03:47.280 --> 2:03:49.000 Like you know what I'm saying, like why do we 2:03:49.080 --> 2:03:52.280 want to them guys like help create? 2:03:52.400 --> 2:03:55.520 Man? You know what I'm saying all the way in England. 2:03:56.200 --> 2:03:58.160 I'm sitting here now like you know what I'm saying, 2:03:58.280 --> 2:04:01.360 good in life, Like that's what all of you guys 2:04:01.400 --> 2:04:02.360 have done, like all of you. 2:04:02.520 --> 2:04:04.880 You know what I'm saying that. So I don't really like. 2:04:06.880 --> 2:04:09.200 People trying to take down our culture and then we're 2:04:09.240 --> 2:04:10.640 taking it down ourselves. 2:04:11.000 --> 2:04:12.600 It's sad, like you know what I'm saying. 2:04:13.520 --> 2:04:18.240 Yeah, Like I mean, h who like better Nasa Jim Jones. 2:04:19.720 --> 2:04:20.680 That's great. 2:04:21.640 --> 2:04:23.400 That's two different things that I don't know. 2:04:23.760 --> 2:04:28.400 I mean, even like there was like Nas, I remember 2:04:28.440 --> 2:04:32.920 there was a time like Nas is like that's Nas 2:04:32.960 --> 2:04:37.680 remember him and jay Z shoot up them days? And 2:04:37.760 --> 2:04:39.520 then like there was a time when I was in jail, 2:04:40.320 --> 2:04:42.960 oh free, and it was I used to bear Jim 2:04:43.080 --> 2:04:46.000 Jones on my way to church time. 2:04:46.480 --> 2:04:49.000 Yeah them times. You know what I'm saying that, But yeah, 2:04:49.000 --> 2:04:52.600 I can't that's that was a joke, you know. 2:04:52.800 --> 2:04:55.040 I mean, I mean no, because a lot of people 2:04:55.120 --> 2:04:57.440 gave me criticism because I was saying that that I 2:04:57.520 --> 2:05:00.000 saw where Jim Jones was coming from. Like what I'm 2:05:00.040 --> 2:05:01.760 meant by that is like when you look at the 2:05:01.840 --> 2:05:04.120 young young people, the people that that's looking at the 2:05:04.200 --> 2:05:06.200 algorithms now one million percent. 2:05:06.320 --> 2:05:07.920 I do see where he's coming from. 2:05:08.360 --> 2:05:11.600 Of course, overall you see an argument, yes, like yeah, 2:05:11.640 --> 2:05:13.240 of course you know what I'm saying. Overall, and by 2:05:13.320 --> 2:05:15.800 the way it's being put in that argument, it's fucking dope. 2:05:16.160 --> 2:05:17.800 Like just think about that, you know what I'm saying, Like, 2:05:17.920 --> 2:05:20.120 that's like, that's like us, you know what I mean, 2:05:20.200 --> 2:05:23.120 that's that's like, that's like us being compared to us 2:05:23.440 --> 2:05:26.320 playing is fucking softball football and they're comparing us to 2:05:26.360 --> 2:05:29.200 the Jets Like it's like, oh ship, Like you know, 2:05:29.560 --> 2:05:31.640 we just got compared to the Jets and then we're 2:05:31.720 --> 2:05:34.560 like we're like a you know, a football team that 2:05:34.640 --> 2:05:35.640 doesn't even you know what I'm. 2:05:35.480 --> 2:05:37.800 Saying, Like, so that's what I'm trying to say. At 2:05:37.840 --> 2:05:42.080 the same time, that's Jim's opinion. Yeah, that's it really 2:05:42.320 --> 2:05:47.280 man taking it too serious. He's supposed to think he's 2:05:47.280 --> 2:05:47.520 the best. 2:05:47.840 --> 2:05:51.800 He said, you're supposed to everyone's the best, and to me, 2:05:52.000 --> 2:05:53.360 to me, it's working out for Gym. 2:05:53.400 --> 2:05:56.080 I believe NAS doesn't have to respond. I believe I 2:05:56.200 --> 2:05:59.000 believe he's good, but I believe the argument is dope 2:05:59.000 --> 2:06:01.800 for us London. So for me, that's fucking Jim Jo 2:06:01.920 --> 2:06:05.520 and that's fucking right. That's two legends for me. Yeah, 2:06:05.800 --> 2:06:09.520 Like when I'm around each of them, I think, you know, 2:06:09.680 --> 2:06:13.720 that's the guys, so like that stuff, I don't really 2:06:14.040 --> 2:06:15.320 that's the internet stuff in it. 2:06:15.480 --> 2:06:19.480 And this week we just had uh Max b on 2:06:19.720 --> 2:06:23.120 on Drink Champs and he announced his date that he's 2:06:23.160 --> 2:06:25.160 actually coming home this year. 2:06:25.880 --> 2:06:29.360 Yeah, I speak to Max again and at the end, 2:06:31.600 --> 2:06:33.320 you're going to work on music. We've done it. 2:06:33.400 --> 2:06:37.680 I was on his last album, Wow, how do you 2:06:37.720 --> 2:06:41.120 link with Max? He used to link with so one 2:06:41.160 --> 2:06:44.960 of the Sas guys, one of the because say states 2:06:45.000 --> 2:06:46.120 to have euro Gang in it. 2:06:46.520 --> 2:06:47.040 Yeah, that's right. 2:06:47.680 --> 2:06:50.680 And there was an artist on the Hayes and he 2:06:50.800 --> 2:06:52.720 used to live with Max and that and then he 2:06:52.920 --> 2:06:53.800 was like look shout out to. 2:06:55.800 --> 2:06:58.120 Yeah, yeah, and then. 2:06:58.240 --> 2:07:01.160 Hayes linking with Max and yeah his last album we 2:07:01.200 --> 2:07:03.840 got a song on there. I can't remember the name, 2:07:04.160 --> 2:07:06.760 super Fly Slight Superan. 2:07:07.640 --> 2:07:10.440 I nearly said, fuck you you can. 2:07:10.360 --> 2:07:16.040 Say fun everything, sucker, motherfucker, sucker. 2:07:17.920 --> 2:07:18.120 Mother. 2:07:20.640 --> 2:07:25.080 Oh yeah, more worries, no let me ask you this though. 2:07:25.880 --> 2:07:31.200 Yeah, so drill and grime this is all started in 2:07:31.320 --> 2:07:36.280 the UK, right, But some argue that drill is started 2:07:36.280 --> 2:07:36.919 in Chicago. 2:07:38.200 --> 2:07:39.360 What's your take on on that. 2:07:40.560 --> 2:07:43.160 That's a great question. Yeah, I'll say the drill started 2:07:43.200 --> 2:07:49.040 in Chicago, but like the style of music, yeah, started 2:07:49.120 --> 2:07:52.040 in London. But they was inspired by the Chicago drill, 2:07:52.880 --> 2:07:53.520 you know what I'm saying. 2:07:53.920 --> 2:07:56.280 So what so there is a direct we break that 2:07:56.360 --> 2:07:57.840 down breaking it's. 2:07:57.840 --> 2:07:59.800 Like Chief Keith and all that, right, like you know 2:08:00.080 --> 2:08:04.120 saying like Dirk or whatever. Man there, the UK drill 2:08:04.320 --> 2:08:05.360 is inspired by that. 2:08:06.200 --> 2:08:06.760 Do you yet me? 2:08:07.360 --> 2:08:10.240 But then they made their own sound of sonically yeah 2:08:11.040 --> 2:08:13.040 that we're here now? Yeah, so and that sound and 2:08:13.160 --> 2:08:18.040 then the New York like drill is the same as 2:08:18.120 --> 2:08:20.560 that sound drills. 2:08:20.240 --> 2:08:22.280 From London was from London or the New York. 2:08:22.200 --> 2:08:26.000 Drillers New York drill that you hear like I don't know, 2:08:26.120 --> 2:08:30.600 bas like Favio and all that, Right, that's that's London drill, 2:08:31.320 --> 2:08:33.200 you know what I'm saying. And then but now it's 2:08:33.280 --> 2:08:37.360 that kind of evolved into like the kind of Jersey 2:08:37.520 --> 2:08:39.320 sound in it, like with the. 2:08:42.440 --> 2:08:44.640 Yeah, that kind of what's it was? 2:08:44.720 --> 2:08:48.320 It like forty one what they called that, I'm a 2:08:48.440 --> 2:08:50.760 relaxed when are we fucking again? 2:08:53.000 --> 2:08:53.640 Sexy drill? 2:08:53.960 --> 2:08:55.760 You know what I'm talking about? When they called forty two, 2:08:55.920 --> 2:08:58.400 forty one, forty. 2:08:57.880 --> 2:09:01.160 One, Yeah, that's kind of like it's kind of drill, 2:09:01.280 --> 2:09:03.720 but then it's kind of it's kind of morphed into 2:09:04.800 --> 2:09:06.160 you know what I'm saying that, So now it's his 2:09:06.360 --> 2:09:10.080 own sound because it's kind of Jersey like, you know 2:09:10.120 --> 2:09:10.400 what I mean? 2:09:11.040 --> 2:09:13.840 So now they made another sound yet me? 2:09:14.280 --> 2:09:18.400 So does do people in London feel like they're the 2:09:18.440 --> 2:09:21.200 ones who inspired here or do they feel like they 2:09:21.240 --> 2:09:22.240 took something from Chicago? 2:09:22.600 --> 2:09:28.000 Like how do the originators like six seven that they're 2:09:28.040 --> 2:09:31.960 from London that they arige six to seven? I'll say, 2:09:32.040 --> 2:09:37.120 like Section Boys, they would probably tell you like Chief 2:09:37.240 --> 2:09:40.760 Keith and that inspired that Chicago? Yeah me, but the 2:09:41.200 --> 2:09:44.080 origin then they started and now and then you would 2:09:44.080 --> 2:09:47.080 get the younger ones like I don't know, like low 2:09:47.240 --> 2:09:51.800 Ski and like even at Central Seed who would have 2:09:52.480 --> 2:09:53.560 listened to six seven? 2:09:53.680 --> 2:09:56.000 And you yet me? Like you know what I'm saying, 2:09:56.080 --> 2:09:59.320 and Section and did d ting you yet? Me? 2:10:01.680 --> 2:10:01.880 Ill? 2:10:03.040 --> 2:10:04.160 And then what about grime? 2:10:04.760 --> 2:10:06.680 Grime is grime is like. 2:10:08.200 --> 2:10:12.280 So grime is is it's like when it's like one 2:10:12.440 --> 2:10:14.800 tempo music, so it's one forty bpm. 2:10:15.200 --> 2:10:17.760 So like say, like that drill, that drill was probably. 2:10:17.560 --> 2:10:22.360 Like one thirty one twenty eight bpm. Grime is one 2:10:22.480 --> 2:10:27.400 forty bpm, and like they used to like so first 2:10:27.480 --> 2:10:28.520 it started with garage. 2:10:28.720 --> 2:10:31.720 Yeah, well I was a drumming bass or any of that. 2:10:31.760 --> 2:10:34.400 Now now drumming basses before that, but it's all kind 2:10:34.440 --> 2:10:37.320 of in the same yeah, yeah, so yeah, drumming bass, right, yeah, 2:10:37.960 --> 2:10:41.400 and then that kind of turned into like it was 2:10:41.480 --> 2:10:44.880 drummer based kind of jungle jungle, and then like it's 2:10:45.080 --> 2:10:48.400 then it mixed the fuse the dance or and then 2:10:48.440 --> 2:10:52.560 it was like that's kind of jungle, right because they 2:10:52.600 --> 2:10:55.760 had the dance and that didn't eymore no, no, you 2:10:55.800 --> 2:10:58.320 know the ones like them kind of tunes. And then 2:10:58.440 --> 2:11:01.520 after that kind of came garage. Well garage might have 2:11:01.520 --> 2:11:03.440 been the same time, don't quote me yet, me like, 2:11:03.880 --> 2:11:06.880 and it was garage. And then that's when the street 2:11:06.960 --> 2:11:09.040 niggers started spitting on garage. 2:11:09.160 --> 2:11:10.080 So they're rhyming on that. 2:11:10.440 --> 2:11:14.600 Yeah, garage, you know that garage, you know the one's 2:11:14.640 --> 2:11:20.080 that house house and garages house and garage yeah. House music, yeah, 2:11:20.200 --> 2:11:28.200 House and garage yeah. Oh, garage yeah yeah, garage, garage, garage, 2:11:28.400 --> 2:11:32.920 we say garage. So that house and garage kind of 2:11:34.040 --> 2:11:36.480 and the man used to spit on house and garage 2:11:36.680 --> 2:11:39.760 yet me and then the street niggas started making their 2:11:39.840 --> 2:11:45.040 own kind of beats, that tempo, and then they then 2:11:45.080 --> 2:11:47.840 it kind of fused into grime because it was more 2:11:48.000 --> 2:11:53.080 raw garage, house and garages that you know, happy house like, yeah, 2:11:53.200 --> 2:11:55.800 but the man is spitting on it now street niggers, 2:11:56.320 --> 2:11:58.120 you know what I'm saying that, So then they start 2:11:58.160 --> 2:12:01.960 making their own beats and its darker, yeah exactly, and 2:12:02.040 --> 2:12:04.760 then that became grime. But it wasn't cool grime for long. 2:12:04.840 --> 2:12:08.560 It was just didn't have a name manager spitting on it. 2:12:08.640 --> 2:12:11.360 It's still kind of garage. And then man start calling 2:12:11.400 --> 2:12:15.520 it different names Eski, but that grime stock and then 2:12:15.560 --> 2:12:22.880 that's grime. Yeah, so that's Skepta, Wiley, Dizzey, Rascal, Dizzey 2:12:22.920 --> 2:12:26.200 Rascals grime yeah really yeah. Dizzy was the coded Dizzy 2:12:26.400 --> 2:12:28.440 was one of the people who made me want to spit. 2:12:29.800 --> 2:12:33.520 Thom is straight hip hop ships. Dizzey was one of 2:12:33.600 --> 2:12:34.440 the coldest crime. 2:12:34.600 --> 2:12:36.120 You mean it's all hip hop though at the end 2:12:36.120 --> 2:12:37.839 of the day, yeah. 2:12:37.760 --> 2:12:40.320 No, yeah, so so so grime. 2:12:40.640 --> 2:12:46.840 Now, grime is a fusion of hip hop, garage, dance 2:12:47.000 --> 2:12:52.080 l because the man name in London are Jamaican African, but. 2:12:52.160 --> 2:12:53.800 That's the b Yeah. 2:12:54.240 --> 2:12:58.240 But if you're spitting to me, that is hip hop already. 2:12:58.920 --> 2:13:04.800 I guess yeah, unless it's true. But the man used 2:13:04.800 --> 2:13:08.600 to spit like like garage days. They used to spit 2:13:08.760 --> 2:13:14.160 like check one to check to check, you know that 2:13:14.280 --> 2:13:16.240 one was like oh we go up the street and. 2:13:17.360 --> 2:13:20.000 Yeah, like kind of you know what I'm saying, Like yeah, 2:13:21.400 --> 2:13:23.000 though they might even saying anything. 2:13:23.680 --> 2:13:26.160 We loving it, loving it, loving it, we loving it. 2:13:26.280 --> 2:13:27.839 That's that's garage. 2:13:28.080 --> 2:13:29.360 Because was hard. 2:13:29.800 --> 2:13:35.120 Grime came and Dizzy, who changed the game. He used 2:13:35.160 --> 2:13:38.760 to be spitting cold like like slip on your rebook, 2:13:38.800 --> 2:13:42.560 pumps star jumps like you know what I'm saying. 2:13:42.600 --> 2:13:45.640 He would come, he be on the hearted. That's when 2:13:45.680 --> 2:13:49.800 he needed the harder beats. Then it started fusing the 2:13:50.960 --> 2:13:54.560 more bass, raw, dirty, you know what I'm saying, like 2:13:54.720 --> 2:13:57.360 hip hop. So by this time I listened to dancer 2:13:57.440 --> 2:14:00.200 as well, So it's got a touch of dancer in there, 2:14:01.080 --> 2:14:04.360 and you get me. But man's listening to rap music. 2:14:04.640 --> 2:14:08.360 So when man's spitting, you know what I'm saying. And 2:14:08.440 --> 2:14:14.040 then there was grime then, But the grime thing that 2:14:14.200 --> 2:14:18.000 there was, they weren't really gang bangers in grime, you 2:14:18.080 --> 2:14:21.360 know what I'm saying, Like more like there was couple, 2:14:21.480 --> 2:14:24.560 but it's more like like good kids kind of thing, 2:14:25.480 --> 2:14:27.360 you know what I'm saying, Like you get me, Like 2:14:27.480 --> 2:14:30.400 here's there might shoot you baby, yeah, because they're from 2:14:30.400 --> 2:14:33.600 the streets, but they're not frop They're not that like 2:14:33.720 --> 2:14:36.040 they might be the good kids who focus on music. 2:14:36.120 --> 2:14:39.400 Them times, music wasn't cool, right, You know what I'm saying. 2:14:39.480 --> 2:14:40.400 If you're a street. 2:14:40.240 --> 2:14:42.680 Nigger on music, it's not cool. If you're doing grime, 2:14:42.960 --> 2:14:45.920 that's them grime niggas. You know what I'm saying, Like, manny, 2:14:46.680 --> 2:14:49.200 you know what I'm saying. If you're doing grime, if 2:14:49.360 --> 2:14:51.600 like man like me, I started fucking with before it 2:14:51.720 --> 2:14:54.200 was cool grime and it would be like, yeah, so 2:14:54.280 --> 2:14:56.840 what I'm doing grime? Like you know what I'm saying, man, 2:14:57.000 --> 2:14:59.360 you have to yeah, so what I'm making this ground 2:14:59.400 --> 2:15:01.680 you get me. And then then I went to jail 2:15:02.720 --> 2:15:06.840 and then niggas are rapping in jail. UK niggas weren't 2:15:06.880 --> 2:15:10.080 really rapping them like street niggas, you get me. So 2:15:10.200 --> 2:15:14.200 then niggas are in jail, were rapping, and my grime 2:15:14.320 --> 2:15:17.360 songs are signing kind of nerdy like I was, like, 2:15:17.720 --> 2:15:20.840 I said, I hide my grime songs like yeah, they say, 2:15:21.400 --> 2:15:25.000 don't worry about that one. Then I started rapping. I said, yeah, 2:15:25.000 --> 2:15:27.200 I'm doing this wrap to fuck this grind ship like 2:15:27.280 --> 2:15:27.440 you know. 2:15:27.440 --> 2:15:30.320 What I'm saying. Then that's then then there was me 2:15:31.160 --> 2:15:32.040 and then there's all. 2:15:31.920 --> 2:15:35.360 The underground rappers as well, like because it was rapping 2:15:35.480 --> 2:15:37.520 time like and that was the street niggas. 2:15:37.600 --> 2:15:39.400 That's when it was crazy in the streets. 2:15:39.920 --> 2:15:45.200 Niggas started rapping English accents, niggas busting shots on fucking 2:15:46.040 --> 2:15:49.240 DVDs and ship. We had a DVD error because that's 2:15:49.280 --> 2:15:51.400 what we got that from, you lot from like Smack. 2:15:52.480 --> 2:15:54.400 Don't play from. 2:15:57.400 --> 2:16:03.000 Influence smack because you know what I mean. 2:16:03.600 --> 2:16:05.920 So then we had the DVDs, you know what I'm saying. 2:16:06.360 --> 2:16:11.120 And that was when UK like skankster street rap, you 2:16:11.160 --> 2:16:13.360 know what I mean. Like, so then you still had grime, 2:16:13.720 --> 2:16:16.040 but like it was grime over there, and then there's 2:16:16.200 --> 2:16:19.080 UK rap. Right, So that's why even like if I 2:16:19.480 --> 2:16:22.480 come to America and someone calls me ground, I mean, 2:16:22.480 --> 2:16:23.520 I ain't know Grandmatis. 2:16:23.920 --> 2:16:26.960 So you think that Grand Martyrs would separate themselves from 2:16:27.040 --> 2:16:27.400 hip hop? 2:16:28.120 --> 2:16:32.400 Yeah, even like like so like because all of the 2:16:32.600 --> 2:16:37.000 like Skepta, he's grime, yeah, gigs rap. But even though 2:16:37.040 --> 2:16:39.040 Skeptic makes hip hop as well, me, I can make 2:16:39.120 --> 2:16:42.600 grime as well because I started with that because it's faster, 2:16:42.800 --> 2:16:46.119 you know, spit fast, like you know, like twist stops. 2:16:47.000 --> 2:16:48.400 You know what I'm saying, Like you get me, so 2:16:48.520 --> 2:16:51.800 I can do that as well, you get me. But yeah, 2:16:51.840 --> 2:16:59.000 he's skeptar Kino, Diz, Rascal, grime, gigs, fucking I don't 2:16:59.000 --> 2:17:02.040 know Dave hip hop, Like you know what I'm saying, Well, 2:17:02.040 --> 2:17:04.760 I don't know if Dave were calling sorry, because he's right, 2:17:05.280 --> 2:17:09.360 he's probably hip hop. But anyway, it's separate, you know 2:17:09.360 --> 2:17:13.160 what I'm saying, Like, yes, but what was the question 2:17:13.240 --> 2:17:14.959 you asked me just then? 2:17:16.560 --> 2:17:18.000 But I was just saying, you. 2:17:18.040 --> 2:17:22.000 Guys, yeah, you know, that's that's where it coming from. 2:17:22.600 --> 2:17:26.400 But even like me, my music here because mad times, 2:17:26.400 --> 2:17:29.160 I think ro where do I belong like musically do 2:17:29.200 --> 2:17:31.600 you know what I mean? Like, because I'll make a 2:17:31.680 --> 2:17:35.720 song with like popcorn like and then I'll make a 2:17:35.800 --> 2:17:36.760 song with Dave East. 2:17:37.800 --> 2:17:38.680 Where do I belong? 2:17:38.840 --> 2:17:40.840 Like? You know what I'm saying that because that's a dancer. 2:17:40.920 --> 2:17:43.640 I'm not bringing popcorn on a hip hop rhythm. It's 2:17:43.680 --> 2:17:46.560 on a hard dance ALREADTHM, and I'm lacing it dance 2:17:46.600 --> 2:17:49.560 all start. But then I might lace a Dave East, 2:17:50.320 --> 2:17:53.720 but then I might lace a fucking young fuck on 2:17:53.840 --> 2:17:54.480 the south thing? 2:17:54.800 --> 2:17:57.160 Right, So ro what what's my music? 2:17:57.360 --> 2:17:57.400 Like? 2:17:57.720 --> 2:17:58.320 You know what I'm saying? 2:17:58.400 --> 2:17:58.440 Like? 2:17:58.640 --> 2:18:02.520 Yeah, me, but now I understand raw Like I'm just 2:18:02.760 --> 2:18:05.520 my music. It's just u K. You know what I'm saying. 2:18:06.280 --> 2:18:07.000 I can do whatever. 2:18:07.080 --> 2:18:10.000 Yeah, it's hip hopos or period. But there's dancer in there, 2:18:11.000 --> 2:18:15.520 and dance is the original, So what is it really? 2:18:15.680 --> 2:18:15.720 Like? 2:18:18.360 --> 2:18:23.440 That's how just because they are the original rappers in. 2:18:23.440 --> 2:18:28.920 The sense original rappers. Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. 2:18:29.480 --> 2:18:35.280 In a sense in a sense I said, think about it, 2:18:35.440 --> 2:18:38.720 Dan Saw is just rapping in patois. 2:18:40.000 --> 2:18:40.640 On a certain b. 2:18:41.320 --> 2:18:44.600 So, but that's the original though, so and then hip 2:18:44.640 --> 2:18:47.879 hop comes off though it depends on. 2:18:48.000 --> 2:18:50.200 Okay, So now we gotta get real historic if we're 2:18:50.200 --> 2:18:51.120 go no, no, we gotta go. 2:18:51.360 --> 2:18:53.360 We gotta go by year now, we gotta go. 2:18:53.400 --> 2:18:57.600 By years because reggae will turn into dance. We gotta 2:18:57.640 --> 2:19:01.000 go yearly, the seventy ease and then and we gotta 2:19:01.080 --> 2:19:04.160 go with Bob Marley changes to dance hall like. 2:19:04.240 --> 2:19:06.720 Reggae reggae, Yeah, we got to That's okay. 2:19:06.720 --> 2:19:09.480 I don't want to go into that. Let me let me, 2:19:10.240 --> 2:19:12.160 but I just think it's all related to be honest 2:19:12.160 --> 2:19:12.880 with you know. 2:19:14.080 --> 2:19:16.600 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So that's not saying 2:19:16.640 --> 2:19:19.520 where do I belong though, it's just music, Like if 2:19:19.560 --> 2:19:21.440 you think it's one fan it came to like a 2:19:21.560 --> 2:19:25.760 gig show. It's like dance or hip hop, like real 2:19:25.959 --> 2:19:30.879 hip hop, fucking some grime, you know what I'm saying. 2:19:30.959 --> 2:19:34.680 My things like one minute your busting shots, next minute 2:19:34.720 --> 2:19:37.560 your doing the grime thing. Then then you're dancing with 2:19:37.640 --> 2:19:40.520 the gym made tunes for the girl. Like it's all 2:19:40.680 --> 2:19:44.240 different flavors that, you know what I'm saying, Like hip hop. 2:19:44.440 --> 2:19:47.959 I think that's kind of why I agree you. 2:19:51.160 --> 2:20:01.360 Supposed because because you might have mix heavy d outside. 2:20:01.360 --> 2:20:02.680 I got all right, I got I. 2:20:02.720 --> 2:20:05.160 Got lost up bag By, but it was like hip hop, 2:20:05.200 --> 2:20:07.520 but it was like don't so like I know what 2:20:07.600 --> 2:20:09.879 you're saying, Like like last. 2:20:09.720 --> 2:20:11.920 Thing of karras One, he does a lot of Ye 2:20:12.640 --> 2:20:14.879 Pats One and his hip hop record. 2:20:14.760 --> 2:20:16.080 Charris One would shoot. 2:20:15.800 --> 2:20:16.000 You, And. 2:20:18.200 --> 2:20:21.160 That's still don't carros One because I did. 2:20:22.760 --> 2:20:23.920 Any of us, so. 2:20:26.840 --> 2:20:30.680 All that influence, but it's totally hip hop is hip hop. 2:20:30.840 --> 2:20:31.879 I believe everything that. 2:20:33.360 --> 2:20:35.920 You see don't in them days in that that's like 2:20:36.040 --> 2:20:37.840 a ees On sign. We used to we used to 2:20:37.920 --> 2:20:42.160 cool that racket hip hop. So remember remember we had raga. 2:20:42.600 --> 2:20:43.480 Remember the Bush. 2:20:43.320 --> 2:20:46.280 Babies remember yeah, yeah, like they were and there was 2:20:46.360 --> 2:20:49.640 there was there was teetering between reggae and hip hop, 2:20:49.720 --> 2:20:50.400 but it was hip hop. 2:20:50.760 --> 2:20:53.200 Yeah yeah, but that's not saying then we would say 2:20:53.280 --> 2:20:55.320 racket hip hop them days. 2:20:55.760 --> 2:20:56.320 You know what I'm saying. 2:20:56.600 --> 2:20:59.600 Babies born Americans, born Americans as well. 2:20:59.720 --> 2:21:04.240 Yeah, I mean to me, look, it's all it's one 2:21:04.280 --> 2:21:05.600 big family musing. 2:21:05.760 --> 2:21:07.400 I know that is off the chain. 2:21:07.800 --> 2:21:08.000 Yeah. 2:21:08.280 --> 2:21:10.040 I met one of their fishtakers. I am parted. That 2:21:10.200 --> 2:21:14.720 was mad. Yeah yeah, yo, ll list ye they were cold. 2:21:15.360 --> 2:21:21.240 The album from twenty Pounds Illness twenty pounds that I 2:21:21.320 --> 2:21:24.640 remember that. What is that in the USD probably twenty five. 2:21:25.040 --> 2:21:26.480 That's when that's a lot. 2:21:26.560 --> 2:21:28.320 For the first time I went to London, I gave 2:21:28.360 --> 2:21:30.640 a man one thousand dollars to convert the thing. 2:21:31.280 --> 2:21:32.959 He gave me a seventy eight. 2:21:33.240 --> 2:21:38.160 Yeah, no, has to be hot. Gave you have had 2:21:38.360 --> 2:21:42.840 that break kind of let me not get not get fired. 2:21:45.280 --> 2:21:48.320 Yeah I don't. 2:21:50.480 --> 2:21:51.240 I'm not gonna lie. 2:21:51.760 --> 2:21:54.119 The first time in my life when they said brexit, 2:21:54.200 --> 2:21:55.119 I said, what is brexit? 2:21:55.400 --> 2:21:56.400 He said it was breakfast. 2:21:56.920 --> 2:22:00.240 Somebody's a part of them, one of the to not 2:22:00.360 --> 2:22:02.240 be a part of them no more, but still be 2:22:02.360 --> 2:22:02.920 a part of them. 2:22:02.959 --> 2:22:05.480 I was like, that's hard, Like that's all like like 2:22:05.760 --> 2:22:08.720 they left, but they got one leg in. 2:22:09.080 --> 2:22:11.119 They still got one leg in. That's kind of hard. 2:22:11.160 --> 2:22:13.200 That's like the Bronx saying I don't want to be 2:22:13.240 --> 2:22:15.840 a part of New York City, but I still. 2:22:15.640 --> 2:22:16.119 Want to stay. 2:22:17.879 --> 2:22:21.680 That's hard, Like that's hard. Just think about the logic Bronx. 2:22:21.760 --> 2:22:23.959 That's like, it's like. 2:22:25.600 --> 2:22:26.040 Texas. 2:22:26.280 --> 2:22:28.119 It's like what can I say. 2:22:28.160 --> 2:22:33.440 It's like it's like poor Rico and America saying, yeah, 2:22:33.440 --> 2:22:35.080 I don't want to be part of you know, no more. 2:22:35.200 --> 2:22:37.560 It's kind of more like that because Porto Rico is 2:22:37.600 --> 2:22:39.880 just over thing, but it's still kind of under America 2:22:39.959 --> 2:22:40.160 in it. 2:22:41.440 --> 2:22:43.320 Who would be Puerto Rico in this announced. 2:22:42.920 --> 2:22:46.480 Puerto Rico might be in Europe and the UK is 2:22:46.560 --> 2:22:47.560 America America. 2:22:47.840 --> 2:22:49.879 That's a big mask. I feel like. 2:22:51.440 --> 2:22:54.840 That's what bre say is we separated from Europe. But 2:22:55.000 --> 2:23:01.440 is it You're a bigger Europe. Europe our passport that 2:23:01.600 --> 2:23:08.760 my passport. So this passport, now, this is the old passport. 2:23:09.400 --> 2:23:11.240 This is this says, this says. 2:23:11.240 --> 2:23:13.560 EU and you can travel easily. 2:23:14.000 --> 2:23:16.879 That's EU and U K. You remember this possible in it? Yeah, 2:23:17.760 --> 2:23:18.840 yeah he can't. 2:23:18.879 --> 2:23:19.760 He's American. 2:23:19.920 --> 2:23:23.760 Okay, So now the possible after Bread said the possible 2:23:23.920 --> 2:23:27.000 is just UK okay, and it's black. It's not even 2:23:27.040 --> 2:23:29.199 think So I've got the black passport. 2:23:29.640 --> 2:23:30.880 Yeah that's some hard shp. 2:23:30.920 --> 2:23:35.840 I ain't never seen a black pastor. I need that 2:23:35.959 --> 2:23:36.600 for my leave bit. 2:23:38.720 --> 2:23:41.240 You need a better Just here, I'm about to joint 2:23:41.280 --> 2:23:47.480 press it. I'm playing where's let's go. Okay, guys, so whoa, yeah, 2:23:47.720 --> 2:23:50.240 she got politically incorrec. 2:23:50.280 --> 2:23:51.520 Shot change the subject. 2:23:52.000 --> 2:23:55.520 Let's take a shot for change the subjects. Let's take 2:23:55.560 --> 2:23:57.039 this because this has got too politically. 2:23:59.240 --> 2:24:00.960 Yeah, I'm thinking about my fucking book. 2:24:02.800 --> 2:24:04.560 You got a book? Who signed to it? She feels 2:24:04.600 --> 2:24:08.600 my pains. She from the Netherlands. Okay, neu up my 2:24:08.840 --> 2:24:15.800 ting and it's a guy music. Mm hmm. 2:24:16.480 --> 2:24:17.760 That socky thing is nice. 2:24:18.160 --> 2:24:20.400 It's nice, right and you know what you still alert? 2:24:20.560 --> 2:24:25.320 You still yeah? Yeah like though yeah, I need I need, 2:24:26.200 --> 2:24:28.080 I need ye. Yeah, I like that. 2:24:29.080 --> 2:24:31.039 You actually get a little bit more sober. 2:24:30.800 --> 2:24:31.440 Than I like. 2:24:32.680 --> 2:24:38.800 And I like this as well. Is that majuana my things? 2:24:38.840 --> 2:24:42.640 See that as well, that's my majuana kings my thing. 2:24:43.000 --> 2:24:44.640 See I'm gonna be honest. I don't recommend that. 2:24:46.200 --> 2:24:49.680 Listen, man, listen, I heard this is for me. 2:24:52.600 --> 2:24:56.400 If I linked the thing that my zoobie, my Mamajuana King. Listen, 2:24:56.560 --> 2:25:01.400 this guy go basking, go for it, not Meva Juana King. 2:25:01.680 --> 2:25:03.880 I'm saying this is how I heir Manjuana is me. 2:25:04.320 --> 2:25:06.160 It's not it's not made the way he's saying it. 2:25:06.200 --> 2:25:09.280 Go ahead and tubb and kindle with people can't even 2:25:09.320 --> 2:25:09.880 live in kendle. 2:25:10.400 --> 2:25:11.680 Let's not say this on the show. 2:25:13.480 --> 2:25:15.920 Is all the time, all the time. 2:25:16.040 --> 2:25:18.600 I said you for the in the office for I know, 2:25:18.680 --> 2:25:19.199 a couple. 2:25:19.080 --> 2:25:20.360 Of dudes with dirty feet. 2:25:22.879 --> 2:25:26.160 I mean, honestly, that's how he's making that. 2:25:27.879 --> 2:25:30.360 If you think about it, that's how wine is made. 2:25:30.480 --> 2:25:31.520 I'll give you one story. 2:25:31.800 --> 2:25:34.000 This kind of have to step on listen. I give 2:25:34.000 --> 2:25:36.080 you one story. I'll give you one story. 2:25:36.200 --> 2:25:36.800 Me and a bone. 2:25:37.680 --> 2:25:44.720 You stepped on grapes holding hand. So I'm gonna I'm 2:25:44.720 --> 2:25:48.000 gonna look. So we're at Palermo. You know what Palmo 2:25:48.120 --> 2:25:53.560 in Italy, right it Sicily. This is where the mafia 2:25:53.879 --> 2:25:54.400 is invented. 2:25:56.760 --> 2:25:57.800 We know, but we don't know. 2:25:57.920 --> 2:26:00.800 But as soon as you land, you know, like you know, 2:26:01.000 --> 2:26:04.440 like this is this is, this is where they at. 2:26:05.640 --> 2:26:07.400 So we check into the hotel. Soon as we check 2:26:07.440 --> 2:26:11.040 into the hotel, they take our passports and I mean 2:26:11.040 --> 2:26:13.560 they literally take our passports as we check in, like 2:26:13.640 --> 2:26:17.200 they take them. So we're like all sitting around and 2:26:17.520 --> 2:26:19.640 you know, we ordered these bottles of wine. We're like, 2:26:19.680 --> 2:26:21.440 they're like, you know, just will be a couple of minutes. 2:26:21.440 --> 2:26:23.119 So we ordered these bottles of wine. I'm talking about 2:26:23.120 --> 2:26:26.040 it must have been like six hours. We drink everything, 2:26:27.160 --> 2:26:30.760 every bottom of wine that they had, We drink them 2:26:31.800 --> 2:26:33.879 like it must have so hours later, like they take 2:26:33.920 --> 2:26:36.039 so much along with our passports, but we're so drunk 2:26:37.280 --> 2:26:37.800 we don't care. 2:26:38.400 --> 2:26:41.880 They give us back up passports, we take them. 2:26:44.720 --> 2:26:47.240 We asked for the bill because they say we had 2:26:47.320 --> 2:26:48.480 the end and then they tell us we had to 2:26:48.560 --> 2:26:49.640 clear y'all through the FBI. 2:26:49.760 --> 2:26:52.880 We're like, holy shit, it was this was some abnormal ship. 2:26:52.920 --> 2:26:54.560 But we already fucked up. Were just like, let's just 2:26:54.840 --> 2:26:56.280 roll over there, right, So. 2:26:57.320 --> 2:26:59.880 So we we go upstairs, we do the show. 2:27:00.680 --> 2:27:03.920 The next day, we realized, like, yo, how much was 2:27:04.000 --> 2:27:08.040 that bill in American money? Like we must have drank 2:27:08.320 --> 2:27:13.879 forty bottles right well, our bill was like one hundred 2:27:13.920 --> 2:27:18.039 and forty dollars. So we're like something about this might 2:27:18.160 --> 2:27:18.840 not be right. 2:27:19.600 --> 2:27:20.560 This is cheaper out there. 2:27:20.640 --> 2:27:21.959 I wake up in the morning. 2:27:21.800 --> 2:27:24.960 It's this guy's one guy just making the wine byself. 2:27:26.360 --> 2:27:27.200 Come on, guy, you. 2:27:28.760 --> 2:27:29.360 Can't make. 2:27:31.160 --> 2:27:31.600 You can't. 2:27:33.480 --> 2:27:35.520 I'm just saying, this is how they did it. It's 2:27:35.560 --> 2:27:38.520 the reason why they wine was so cheap. I had 2:27:38.680 --> 2:27:39.240 one guy. 2:27:40.760 --> 2:27:46.760 You know, I'm not Lucy Man come each other story. 2:27:49.200 --> 2:27:54.959 Right now. Absolutely that because it's you such a guy 2:27:55.400 --> 2:27:59.240 literally for your own eyes, stepping in the Absolutely absolutely 2:27:59.320 --> 2:28:02.039 one million, but almost that juice takes a long. 2:28:01.920 --> 2:28:02.720 Time to become one. 2:28:02.959 --> 2:28:05.760 I'm not saying that the ship that he was just 2:28:05.840 --> 2:28:09.560 stepping on at that moment became what we but eventually 2:28:09.720 --> 2:28:10.000 this is. 2:28:12.720 --> 2:28:15.600 Yes from the field. 2:28:15.680 --> 2:28:16.200 Let me just tell you. 2:28:16.560 --> 2:28:18.520 Let me just tell you the reason why I noticed him. 2:28:22.040 --> 2:28:23.039 He didn't look clean. 2:28:25.480 --> 2:28:28.040 He looked like a guy that pumps gas. Because what 2:28:28.200 --> 2:28:31.440 you got to realize, and Palermo is a very poor place, 2:28:32.000 --> 2:28:36.000 Palama so outside of this these little like resorts or whatever. 2:28:36.160 --> 2:28:36.680 Like you see. 2:28:37.120 --> 2:28:39.320 This is when I went there recently and I seen 2:28:40.040 --> 2:28:41.320 Africans pumping out. 2:28:42.040 --> 2:28:45.320 But back then you had you seen just poor you. 2:28:45.400 --> 2:28:48.800 Know, Italian just pump your gas and you sitting there 2:28:48.800 --> 2:28:50.440 and you're like you want to watch him, you don't 2:28:50.440 --> 2:28:52.080 even want to go in there and gets no cheeses, 2:28:52.280 --> 2:28:53.880 you know what I'm saying, Like you like looking at 2:28:53.920 --> 2:28:56.240 this guy, like this guy pumping gas like it was. 2:28:56.360 --> 2:28:56.960 It was rough. 2:28:57.000 --> 2:28:57.520 But I didn't know. 2:28:57.600 --> 2:29:00.960 I thought all Italy was beautiful. I didn't no, Pallemo, 2:29:01.520 --> 2:29:03.760 this is where the mafia is fucking born at. 2:29:04.120 --> 2:29:05.119 I didn't know that ship. 2:29:05.280 --> 2:29:10.080 So yeah, we got drunk as hell, woke up in 2:29:10.120 --> 2:29:14.199 the morning and I see one man stopping on grapes. 2:29:14.000 --> 2:29:17.000 And well, you know when the firm man SA kills 2:29:17.040 --> 2:29:17.920 all the germs. 2:29:19.560 --> 2:29:21.760 You think you think I thought like that At that 2:29:22.000 --> 2:29:25.320 very moment, I'm thinking like, oh, this guy, I know 2:29:25.400 --> 2:29:26.400 he ain't washed his feet. 2:29:27.760 --> 2:29:28.200 He made it. 2:29:29.640 --> 2:29:31.920 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, gigs. And every time I see 2:29:31.959 --> 2:29:33.400 my majana, that's what I figure. 2:29:38.080 --> 2:29:39.320 Doesn't even know this guy. 2:29:39.800 --> 2:29:41.800 No, I don't know, but I just I just know 2:29:41.920 --> 2:29:43.920 my ma wana is not made correctly. 2:29:44.240 --> 2:29:44.520 It is. 2:29:44.959 --> 2:29:49.000 Listen, bro, my god, this guy goes in on this mamajuana. 2:29:49.040 --> 2:29:50.000 I just know it's not making. 2:29:50.360 --> 2:29:50.480 Bro. 2:29:50.600 --> 2:29:52.520 He goes in on this moment. He doesn't know any people. 2:29:52.640 --> 2:29:54.879 Mamajuana. I never goes in on him. 2:29:55.080 --> 2:29:57.200 I just never said I did, but I just feel like. 2:29:58.480 --> 2:30:00.080 That's what you think. Come when you see it, and 2:30:00.360 --> 2:30:06.040 I said, guy had The guy puts herbs, but he 2:30:06.240 --> 2:30:17.599 drinking the real feet juice. You don't even so he's traumatized. 2:30:18.520 --> 2:30:24.160 Even me, I'm drinking the mama wana. That's the case. 2:30:24.520 --> 2:30:27.400 The guy in the mamahuanna guy calls me up. He's like, yo, nor, 2:30:27.480 --> 2:30:29.800 he's this in the funk out of me, I said, 2:30:29.840 --> 2:30:32.840 my man do A video now promoting it the way. 2:30:32.920 --> 2:30:36.680 He said, you gotta got girls, sexy girls in the 2:30:36.760 --> 2:30:38.400 bathtom making. 2:30:38.160 --> 2:30:40.360 The mamajuana to help the fly. 2:30:42.120 --> 2:30:47.800 And he was angry. 2:30:47.920 --> 2:30:48.920 I said, don't be angry. 2:30:49.480 --> 2:30:52.080 He's clean by these. 2:30:53.680 --> 2:30:55.560 Rains. He saw. 2:30:56.120 --> 2:30:58.760 The guy saw everything. He said, He's like, I don't 2:30:58.879 --> 2:30:59.520 make it like that. 2:31:05.120 --> 2:31:07.240 So I got playing around what I'm saying. 2:31:07.280 --> 2:31:08.720 But in my mind, that's the way it's made. Like 2:31:08.800 --> 2:31:12.560 that's in my mind. Like I mean, moonshine is made 2:31:12.560 --> 2:31:17.000 in the bathtub. Real, this is dominicky moon shine. 2:31:18.400 --> 2:31:21.720 Yeah, it's rude, it's roots and then you add alcohol 2:31:21.879 --> 2:31:22.520 after the fact. 2:31:24.400 --> 2:31:28.760 We got two more shots left. I just want to 2:31:28.760 --> 2:31:31.560 salute you. Give your flowers face to face man, the man. 2:31:32.360 --> 2:31:34.680 The things that you did is remarkable. Things that you're 2:31:34.720 --> 2:31:37.120 doing is remarkable. Things that you continue to be a 2:31:37.200 --> 2:31:37.520 part of. 2:31:40.000 --> 2:31:40.680 One that does it. 2:31:43.040 --> 2:31:44.080 I believe you got one more. 2:31:44.160 --> 2:31:44.960 So don't let it do it. 2:31:45.000 --> 2:31:45.640 They don't let it win. 2:31:46.120 --> 2:31:46.480 So but. 2:31:48.480 --> 2:31:50.240 Don't let them. Don't let them win. 2:31:50.520 --> 2:31:54.520 Whoever them isn't the people that Colin talk about got 2:31:54.600 --> 2:31:55.160 lost hope? 2:31:55.200 --> 2:31:57.480 You know real opinion. Long ago. 2:31:59.200 --> 2:32:02.040 I said, dreams were proud of you. Man. 2:32:02.360 --> 2:32:03.880 We want to salute you. We want to let you 2:32:04.040 --> 2:32:07.640 know the things you do did and doing is remarkable 2:32:07.720 --> 2:32:10.240 man like for a person for your story like you know, 2:32:10.920 --> 2:32:14.520 you know, like you know, being locked up abroad and 2:32:14.640 --> 2:32:19.920 being able to be a uh the man them there 2:32:20.440 --> 2:32:23.119 and then come home and dominate America due to us 2:32:23.440 --> 2:32:28.560 have records with every reputable artist, like that's a true 2:32:28.640 --> 2:32:32.120 international star. And I just personally want to salute you personally. 2:32:32.520 --> 2:32:35.440 You know obviously what I'm saying, person I'm saying the 2:32:35.480 --> 2:32:38.080 whole camp to Drink Champs. But you know what you doing, 2:32:38.200 --> 2:32:39.640 what you did is not normal man. 2:32:40.040 --> 2:32:41.160 And you know what I mean. 2:32:41.720 --> 2:32:43.879 That's what it is about our show is we want 2:32:43.920 --> 2:32:47.600 to let you know the dope ship that you do 2:32:47.760 --> 2:32:51.640 it and you're doing and that ship is that ship 2:32:51.760 --> 2:32:53.280 is unheard of. 2:32:53.760 --> 2:32:55.440 You're gonna go down in the history books. 2:32:56.400 --> 2:33:00.480 So until those history books is wrote, we gonna drink 2:33:00.520 --> 2:33:03.160 for you here and we're gonna salute your head. 2:33:04.720 --> 2:33:06.760 You deserve these props. Salu. 2:33:07.160 --> 2:33:09.240 That better not be empty. 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