1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Hello, welcome, how 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: are you? It's good you're here for us. We are 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: on every day from through Why don't laugh at me 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: trying to be a good host. You're great. Three to 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: six o'clock that's when we're on. And then after six 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: o'clock you miss anything in the podcast, that's your makeup session. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show on demand. Download that podcast every single day. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's something that you missed or something that 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: you should be listening to again. Now, pay attention closely. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Here we're going to put on in just a moment 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Michael Msche, the USC professor who has been coming on 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: with us for probably about a year now, to warn 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: us that the price of gas is going is going 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: crazy in California, and we'll keep going crazy regardless of 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: this Iran war, because right now we're at five fifty 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: two a gallon. I think it was at five point 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: forty one on Friday, wasn't it. 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: Yes, And I had to fill up my car this morning. 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: I was so mad. It's infuriating. Five fifty two. Kansas 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: is at three point fourteen. How about that and the 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: national average is three seventy one. Well, everything Newsome does 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: drives up the price of gas. So the Trump administration 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: is trying to lower the price of oil and gas 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: here and also increase oil production in the state because 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: there's some policies has shut down most of it, not 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: to mention shutting down most of the gas refinery capability. 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: So over the weekend, Trump invoked the Defense Production Act 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: and allowed this oil company, Sable Offshore Corporation, to restart 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: pumping oil off the California coast in the Santa Barbara area. 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: It's the first time since twenty fifteen that oil has 33 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: flowed through this Santa Barbara pipeline, which runs across Santa 34 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: Barbara County of San Louis Obispo and Kerrn Counties. Let's 35 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: get Michael mcche to tell us more. Michael, how are 36 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: you doing well today? 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: How are you John? 38 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm good. So how big a deal is it in 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: terms of producing oil and will it have any effect 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: on the price of gas in the state. 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's a complex question. Let's break it apart. Yes, 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: it is a big deal. So Sable Offshore Produces has 43 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: to capacity to produce an incredible amount of oil. They 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: have approximately four hundred thousand barrels of pre treated oil 45 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: in storage now that could be made available in the 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: California refineries. In addition, once they start producing the oil 47 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: and they're online and they'll start pumping, they can pump 48 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: upwards of fifty thousand barrels a day into day California 49 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: refinery system. Now, you know, you can argue, well, that's, 50 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: you know, not a whole lot of oil, but in 51 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: fact it would add about seventeen percent to California in 52 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: state oil production, and it's far greater than the amount 53 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: of oil that the governor is going to get out 54 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: of SB two thirty seven, which is in Current County, 55 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: which was a great place to start, and we needed 56 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: two thirty seven for sure. However, the oil production coming 57 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: out of Current those two thousand permits a day or 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: permits a year would only produce net maybe ten five 59 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: hundred barrels a day, where in Sable you can get 60 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: upwards of fifty thousand barrels a day, So you would 61 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: have a favorable impact. As for prices, that's a little 62 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: bit more complicated. Our price is they're going up either way, Okay, 63 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: so you know we need to be prepared for that. 64 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: So would this slow down the price increases at all? 65 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean is could you make a guess on how 66 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: many cents per gallon? 67 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I just did that, I mean literally 68 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: just did the prices. And you have to take into 69 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: consideration what's happening in Iran and things like that. But 70 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: let's just go let's roll back. Let's make it really simple. 71 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: Let's roll back to a year ago. A year ago today, 72 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: the price of gas in California was four dollars and 73 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: eighty six cents a gallon. Okay, if indeed you just 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: kept it at four dollars and eighty six cents a gallon, 75 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: and you just accounted for normal regulatory increases for state 76 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: exercise tax, low carbon fuel standard, state and local taxes, 77 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: and then the big one that we that we all 78 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: fear the most is cap and trade or cap and invest, 79 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: then the price of gas would easily go to could 80 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: easily go up by sixty percent over the next five years, 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: just based on regulatory cost increases. So yeah, yeah, you're 82 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: looking at you're looking at significant price increases for gasoline. 83 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so this new oil isn't going to help 84 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: that very much. 85 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: It will help, It will help, but it may not 86 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 2: help immediately. But what will help. See, I think what 87 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: has to we have to understand is that the President 88 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: is implementing a series of phased actions for California, and 89 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: this is phase one, which provides for offshore production at 90 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: at at Sable and of course new some in the 91 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: administration have counter seit and and I think that the 92 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Apartment of Parks just issue an absurd letter telling them 93 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: to dismantle the pipeline. You know, they have four days 94 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: to do it. Unfortunately, they send it to the wrong person. 95 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: They send it to Sable and the should have been 96 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: sending it to their Apartment of Energy in Washington, d C. 97 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: Which now has regulatory purview over production of Sable in 98 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: that particular pipeline. So I think what we'll have is 99 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: a series of steps coming into play where we'll see 100 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: an expansion of the executive orders that we'll probably begin 101 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: to address onshore production of oil to get data up, 102 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 2: and then preservation of the pipelines that are onshore because 103 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: you need them because now we're adding at least one 104 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: hundred to two hundred trucks a day onto the interstate 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: system just to move fuel back and forth. We have 106 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: all time tankers lined up waiting to unload fuel. In California, 107 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: we have an all time historical high for importing gasoline. 108 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: Right, I should point out because the pipeline was shut 109 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: down here in California due to Newsoman's policies, the oil 110 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: now has to be transported by those heavy tankers on 111 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: the interstate highway system, and we have to import even 112 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: more foreign oil, which we creates a backup at the ports. 113 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: That's precisely, and that's the. 114 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Reason for these situations you're describing. 115 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you see it. I mean I saw 116 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: it the other night, Friday night. I saw more tankers 117 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: on the road than I've ever seen before. And I've 118 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: lived out here for thirty three years, driving the same road, 119 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: so it's kind of interesting how that looks. In addition, 120 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: remember we have the fifth largest oil reserves in the country, 121 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: but we are importing over sixty five percent of our 122 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: oil from foreign nations. And guess who the number one 123 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: nation is? Iraq. I saw that Ecador, Saudi Arabia. 124 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I saw a pie chart and I don't 125 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: know it's from twenty twenty five but I was looking, 126 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: and you're right, Iraq is about seventeen and a half 127 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: percent of the oil that we import here into California 128 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: and Ecuador and Saudi Arabia, Argentine. Brazil too is a 129 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: big chunk. Yeah, yeah, that's about seventeen percent. So it's 130 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: it's just astonishing. We are getting oil from all four 131 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: corners of the planet, and we have a tremendous amount 132 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: of oil underground here in California. I mean, just what's 133 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: in Bakersfield in Kern County is a tremendous amount of 134 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: oil that can keep us going for a long long time. 135 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: And I look at this pot chart, I look at 136 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: the number of barrels of oil that are coming from 137 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: all over the world, and it's like that you couldn't 138 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: come up with a nuttier system. 139 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: No, no, you couldn't. And if you go back just 140 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: I think to twenty fourteen, Kerrn County was the number 141 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: one producing oil county in the country. That's how much 142 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: oil Kern County was producing ten twelve years ago. And 143 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: in under Governor Newsom, since he took office in twenty nineteen, 144 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: oil you know, drilling permits had dropped up until two 145 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: thirty seven, they had dropped by ninety three percent. So 146 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: ninety three percent of the permits to even drill you 147 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: can't without a permit had dropped by ninety three percent 148 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: under his administration. So if Californias are interested or want 149 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: to know why we're so dependent on foreign oil, look 150 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: no further than some of the in state practices and 151 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: policies that you have today. Now, not only are we 152 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: going to be the most heavily dependent state on foreign oil, 153 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: We're going to be the most heavily dependent state on 154 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: foreign produced gasoline. In John, guess where the number one, 155 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: two and three places. We get gasoline from India, South Korea, 156 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: and the Bahamas. Well, India and South Korea get their 157 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: oil from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the EUAE. Well, 158 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: not much oil flowing out of the Straits of Horn 159 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: moves today. 160 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: So that's so quick? Can you hang out? I I 161 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: want to talk more about this with you. I want 162 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: I want to talk about so he invoked the Defense 163 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Production Act and I want you to explain what that 164 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: is and what is Trump's power over this? And I 165 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: know Newsom is suing, but NEWSOM sues a lot. Does 166 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: it have a case at all here because is this 167 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: something that could be reversed. So we'll talk about that 168 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: when we return. We have Michael mcche usc, Professor on 169 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: the Trump administration opening up the oil pipelines they're going 170 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: to be pumping offshore and just off the coast of 171 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: Santa Barbara. 172 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 173 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: six forty. 174 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: We continue with Michael mcche usc, professor and he has 175 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: been explaining the gas and oil industry here in California 176 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: to us for over a year now. And over the weekend, 177 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump issued an executive order invoking the Defense Production Act. 178 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: So there's oil that's gonna be pumped off the coast 179 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: of Santa Barbara into a pipeline that stretches all the 180 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: way to Kerrn County, and this is going to add 181 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: to the greatly diminished oil supply. In this eighth I 182 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: want to read to you a brief exchange. Ashley Zavala 183 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: is a reporter for KCRA Channel three in Sacramento, and 184 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: she interviewed the chairman of the California Air Resources Board, 185 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: Lauren Sanchez, and what Zavala said is what good are 186 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: California's clean air goals. If California relies so much on 187 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: oil and gas from other countries and then shipped by 188 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: boats that pollute the air, and Lauren Sanchez says, quote, 189 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: it's something we give a lot of thought to and 190 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: then she makes a right a right turn and starts 191 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: babbling and does it really explain. Yeah, it's something we 192 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: give a lot In other words, Yeah, whatever we're trying 193 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: to save here by not producing oil in this state 194 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: or refining gas in this state, it's totally counteracted by 195 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: all the emissions coming from the trucks and the boats 196 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: that are carrying the gas that's being pumped, or the 197 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: oil that's being produced in a rock in Brazil and 198 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: all these far off places. There really isn't a logic 199 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: to this, is there? 200 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: I don't think there is at all. And when they're 201 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: asked to do any calculations, for example, when when car 202 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: proposes regulations or amendments or regulations, they don't try to 203 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: estimate the impact on the consumer. They refuse to do 204 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: so as a matter of fact. So it's a bit 205 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: absurd when when you look at it, let's face it, 206 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: California has the best operations, the best technology, the highest 207 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: trained workforce, the highest standards of production in environmental you know, 208 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: when I. 209 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Was shocked by she's sitting here and this is more 210 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: incentius bobbing her head. Ashley Zavala is making the cases like, 211 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: what's the point of all your your regulations when we 212 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: have to collect all this oil and have all this 213 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: gas refined everywhere else in the world. It's totally counteracted 214 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: by it. And she goes, yeah, she's bobbing her head. Yeah, 215 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, we talk a lot about this. It's like, 216 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: that's not an answer. 217 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's not an answer because she's incapable of answering it. 218 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: It's that simple, Okay, she doesn't have an answer, she's 219 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: not capable of answering it. So in place, you get 220 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: the ideology and you get the narrative of climate change 221 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: and the narrative that's in the that you hear every day. 222 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: So California we export sixty to eighty million dollars a 223 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: day a day, eighty million bucks a day to foreign 224 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: governments and foreign companies for oil and gasoline. Eighty million. 225 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: That's an astonishing amount of money to send out of 226 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: the state, when in fact you could be producing this 227 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: material in state, cleaner and better then you're acquiring from 228 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: these points. 229 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: I only got a couple of minutes. One more question 230 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: two parter the Defense Production Act that Trump invoked to 231 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: get this oil flowing from the Santa Barbara Coast. What 232 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: is that and does Newsom have any legal case now 233 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: that he's suing to stop it? 234 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: Well, this is going to be pretty exciting. So the DPA, 235 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: the Defense Production Act, was passed back in nineteen fifty. 236 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: It's been amended a few times. It gives the president 237 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: broad powers for allocating and prioritizing production raw materials and 238 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: services in our economy that are essential for national defense. 239 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: And as stan Ellis and Michael Zia and I established 240 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: in our paper, California oil and gas production is essential 241 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: to national defense. So the President took that into consideration 242 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: and invoked the National Defense Production Act. Does Newsom have 243 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: a case against it? Well, you know, I'm not a lawyer, 244 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: but it would seem to me it's going to be 245 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: pretty hard for Newsom to brugale in court, given the 246 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: fact that this is directly linked to national defense, national security, 247 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: and force readiness, not to mention the impact that will 248 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: have on the economy. One last thing on the DPA. 249 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: Joe Biden invoked it. You don't hear about that. Joe 250 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: invoked it for guess what solar panels? To make solar panels. 251 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's two different worlds, you know. 252 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: Thank God you're asking the right questions. 253 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: I really appreciate, Michael, thank you for answering all these 254 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: questions because I don't know the answers, and most of 255 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: the audience doesn't know the answers, and that's why we 256 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: love having you here. So thanks again for. 257 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: Coming on anytime. John. 258 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: All right, Michael Michel, USC professor, we will continue. 259 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty. 260 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: The moistline is for Friday eight seven seven Moist eighty 261 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: six eight seven seven eighty six or used the talkback 262 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: feature on the iHeartRadio app. And if you miss any 263 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: part of the show today, remember the podcast gets released 264 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: just after six o'clock, so get the podcast every day 265 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,359 Speaker 1: to catch up on whatever I got by you this afternoon. 266 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: That's on the iHeart app too. You can get everything 267 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: useful on the iHeart app. Now, we were just to 268 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: talk with Michael mcchey from the Professor from USC about 269 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: how Trump has now taken over California gas and oil 270 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: policy to some extent. He has ordered the reopening of 271 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: the pipeline that runs from Santa Barbara to Current County, 272 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: allowing this oil company known as Sable to restart oil 273 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: production off the coast of Santa Barbara. It's been down 274 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen. Trump invoked the Defense Production Act because 275 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: oil and gas are necessary for national defense. In fact, 276 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: we have a tremendous number of military bases here in 277 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: California and they need a reliable oil and gas supply. 278 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: But Gavin has no power to overrule Trump on this. 279 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: He squeaks about another lawsuit. Gavin was running for president 280 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: in Texas. Over the weekend. He was at this at 281 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: this festival called south By Southwest. It's called SXSW and 282 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas, and he was being interviewed by a 283 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: podcast host. And two things about this. Number one, he 284 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: intimated that if the Democrats take over the House in 285 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, then he is going to run for president. 286 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: And when he made this comment, you didn't say it directly. 287 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: The host was being cute saying, Hey, is there a 288 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: second date that we'll have in twenty twenty eight, because 289 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: a lot of the people go into this particular panel 290 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: were really excited over Newsom, and so this was like 291 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: his first date with them. And she said, well, is 292 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: there going to be a second date? And he says, well, 293 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: if we get the house, then you and I can 294 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: go on a second date. And that comment earned thunderous 295 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: applause from the attendees. And his whole spiel was hating 296 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: Trump all right, And apparently the Trump hatred is so 297 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: deep they don't notice what else is going on in 298 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: the world that has nothing to do with Trump. That's 299 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: certainly true here in California. For all the people screaming 300 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: in the plot in Gavin Newsom, he made a statement 301 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: at this south By Southwest event. I'm going to play 302 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: it for you. It is a complete one lie and 303 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: I will prove it to you when the comment is over. 304 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: This was hosted by Vivian two. It was a podcast 305 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: show called net Worth and Chili. 306 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 4: We have the most progressive tax and chill rates in America, 307 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: Texas the most regressive. Texas taxes poor folks more than 308 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 4: we tax our riches. The questions for you is who's 309 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: the higher tax state? California or Texas. 310 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: Who are you for? 311 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: Are you just for the one percent? Or you for 312 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 4: the ninety nighty and so our Albach's that's one of 313 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: progressive tax Lurida is the other regressive tax statement. Your 314 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 4: middle class paid more taxes in Texas than our middle 315 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: classes in California. It's a great mythology. It's just the 316 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: riches to the ridge come here because they can avoid 317 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: paying a damn penny. 318 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: So he flat out said, He flat out said that 319 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: Florida and Texas are the highest tax states compared to California. 320 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: He even posted a clip on his Twitter account and 321 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: he says Fox News refuses to report the truth. Texas 322 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: and Florida are the real high tax states. Well, Jeremy Padawer, 323 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: he's been on our show. His house got burned down 324 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: in the Palisades. He's an executive for toy companies, and 325 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: he's been leading the charge with Spencer Pratt trying to 326 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: get the truth out about Palisades. Well, he saw this 327 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: Newsome quote where Newsom was insisting Texas and Florida are 328 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: the real high tax states, and he said, let's break 329 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: this down. Is Gavin news claim that Texas and Florida 330 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: are the real high tax states. True. No, it's false, 331 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: and he printed a chart. At fifty thousand dollars a 332 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: year in income, California is the fourth highest in taxes. 333 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: Texas is thirty fourth, Florida forty third. I think fifty 334 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year is middle middle class, don't you say? 335 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: Probably lower middle class. At one hundred thousand dollars, California's 336 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: tax rate is fourth, Texas thirty fourth, Florida forty third. 337 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: You got that. At fifty and one hundred thousand dollars 338 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: in income, California has the fourth highest taxes Texas thirty fourth, 339 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: Florida forty third. Now let's get up to a wealthier bracket. 340 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: At five hundred thousand dollars, California is first. In Texas, 341 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: Texas is fortieth, Florida forty third. All right, let's go 342 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: to the top. Now a million dollars of income a year, 343 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: California first, Texas forty third, Florida forty fifth. California has 344 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: the highest state income tax in the US thirteen percent, 345 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: but even at fifty thousand dollars, it's about two to 346 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: three percent. Texas and Florida have zero percent state income tax. 347 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: Across the board. Whether you make a dollar fifty thousand 348 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: or a million, everybody pays zero an income tax. California, 349 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: he writes, has the highest gasoline tax. Texas and Florida 350 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: is significantly lower. California has the highest sales tax. It's 351 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: base seven and a quarter, many cities like La near 352 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: or above ten percent California. Texas's base is six and 353 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: a quarter up to eight and a quarter, comby Florida six, 354 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: seven to seven and a half combined. So California based 355 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: tax sales seven and a quarter, Texas six and a quarter, 356 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: Florida six. California has the highest vehicle registration fees at 357 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: California has the highest capital gains tax an ordinary income 358 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: up to thirteen percent. Texas and Florida are zero percent. 359 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: California has a corporate tax rate of eight point eight percent. 360 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: Texas tops out of zero point seven five, Florida five 361 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: point five. So let's review here Gavin Newsom's claim that 362 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: Texas and Florida are the real high tax states. He 363 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: even not only said that publicly in Texas, he posted 364 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: it on Twitter. And when it comes to income taxes 365 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: at fifty thousand, California by far the highest. Same thing 366 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: at one hundred thousand, same thing at five hundred thousand, 367 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: thing at a million, same thing. When it comes to 368 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: gas taxes, same thing, sales taxes, same thing, vehicle registration fees. 369 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: Same thing with capital gains tax, same thing with corporate 370 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: tax rate. I mean that was about that one huge lie. 371 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: You could break down into ten different, smaller lies. He 372 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: is a narcissistic psychopath, a compulsive liar. Got more coming up. 373 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM 374 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: six forty. 375 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: Follow us at John Cobelt Radio. On social media at 376 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Radio. Oh, and subscribe on YouTube. We'll put 377 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: out another video later. YouTube dot com. YouTube dot com 378 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: would be better. YouTube dot com. Slash at John Cobelt Show. 379 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelt Show. Uh, well, 380 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: this guy is a clown. Marquise Harris Dawson familiar with him. 381 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: Marquise Harris Dawson is the La City Council president. He's 382 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: king of the clowns right now. He was the guy 383 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: when the fire was happening in the Palisades and Bassards 384 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: in Africa. He should have been in charge, but he 385 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: was a no show. Nobody knew where he was until 386 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: about three in the afternoon, when he wrote somebody an 387 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: email saying if I'm needed for anything, please just tell me. 388 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: To total abdication. I don't know if he was sleeping late. 389 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if he went out to have a 390 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: beer at eleven in the morning. But he was a 391 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: complete no show for the fire. But he's still La 392 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: City Council president. And he stopped the council meeting last 393 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: week and started getting emotional because he'd gotten pulled over 394 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: by the cops for a moving violation, and he claimed 395 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: it was racist. He said he was the subject of 396 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: a racially biased police stop. He was in the California Post, 397 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: but he was totally lying, had nothing to do with 398 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: his race. Listen to how he was driving. He was 399 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: pulled over for doing a U turn in a school zone, 400 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: and then after he was caught, he tried to call 401 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: the head of the La Unified School District or one 402 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: of the bosses to get out of the ticket. Don't 403 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: you know who I am? Yes, don't you know who 404 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: I am? 405 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 406 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: He was driving? A Tesla that we're paying for, a 407 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: taxpayer paid tesla and harsh Dawson caught the cops attention 408 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: driving a radically on the freeway. He exited right in 409 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: front of the patrol car, then crossed a center median. 410 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: He's in a school zone now right comes off the 411 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: freeway in a school zone. He crosses the center median 412 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: to make an illegal U turn, and then he got 413 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: pulled over. Students were arriving already. This was during school hours, 414 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: and he was giving a ticket two hundred and thirty 415 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: eight dollars fine. And he got so pissed about it 416 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: that in the middle of the council meeting he practically 417 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: starts crying about the racism he suffered. He called a 418 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: member of the LA Unified School Board to try to 419 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: get out of it, and a spokesperson for the police 420 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: union said, if there was an Academy Award category for 421 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: fictitious stories told by elected officials, mister Harris Dawson's theatrical 422 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: performance would deliver him an oscar. You believe this, Yeah, this, 423 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: He's doing a U turn in a school zone while 424 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: kids are coming to school and then screams racism when 425 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: he gets a ticket. What a dirt bag? I mean, really, 426 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: what a dirt bag? The California Post. He did a 427 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: worry about it, and the OSCAR for false racism accusations 428 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: goes to Marquise Harris Dawson. My god, this guy could 429 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: not get out of bed when the fire was burning 430 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: down the Palisades. But look at all the energy and 431 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: fire and tears he has for getting a ticket. This 432 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: is what's running the place. In case you wonder why 433 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: we're in the in the toilet, four o'clock is coming up. 434 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: By the way, I still don't know what time it 435 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: is all day. Ever since we switched back to this timeslot. 436 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: My internal time clock's all messed up mine too. I 437 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: always think it's earlier than it really is. You probably 438 00:28:50,880 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: heard that Homeland Security has been partially shut down because 439 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: the Democrats are trying to kill ICE and they can't 440 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: because ICE is fully funded for the next few years. 441 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: And so the TSA is going without pay, The Coastguard 442 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: is without pay. TSA lines are really long in a 443 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: lot of airports. We're gonna have Carl Demayo on to 444 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: talk about it. He's the state Assemblement here in California, 445 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: the Republican in San Diego. You've been listening to the 446 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show podcast. You can always hear the show 447 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: live on KFI AM six forty from three to six 448 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: pm every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on 449 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: demand on the iHeartRadio 450 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: App KFI Am six more stimulating talk