1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: All I got was dirty looks in a sore neck. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't need that. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: It's one more thing. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm strong and geddy, one more thing. It's hard to 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 3: imagine where this is going. 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: One of the great companies of the world, Apple with 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: one of the great fails. Nobody really talks about anymore, 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: but Jack. It probably still stings you a little bit. 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: The thirty five hundred dollars Vision Pro. 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: Ah, why does it stingy VR thing? 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Did you buy that one? 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: I bought one for someone. 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so the headline in the Wall Street Journal they 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: paid thirty five hundred dollars for. 16 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: Apples Vision Pro. Year later. It still hurts. 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: The mixed reality headset launched with great promise, but all 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: these buyers got were dirty looks and sore necks. 19 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: I don't need that. 20 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it you don't ever hear anybody talk about it. 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: It was the most extraordinary VR experience I've ever had, 22 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: by far, I mean, multiples better than anything else I'd 23 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: ever tried. The problem still exists of Okay, that is 24 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: really really super cool. 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 3: M No, I got other things to do. I mean, 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: there's just. 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think anybody I had a VR experience 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: in the station that was a fraction the quality of 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: what you've described from the Vision Pro, and and found 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: it just astounding and interesting. And I thought, I've got 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: to get one of these systems. One of these days, 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to get one of these systems. And I 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: never did, right. I just think this staying power, or 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: the power to continue to amuse or use it isn't 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: what all of us imagined it would be. 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so had he ever done one of these just 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: out of curiosity? 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 39 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 5: I have the I have the Meta Quest. 40 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, my kids use that occasionally, but not near as 41 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: much as you'd think they would, not as much as 42 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: you'd think they would. 43 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 5: I haven't touched it in months. 44 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the problem with all that's do you get 45 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: motion sickness? 46 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: No? I get headaches though. 47 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: Okay, well similar sort of thing. Then that's my number one. 48 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: I would probably own the Apple Vision Pro. If I 49 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: didn't get motion sickness. I would use it for I mean, 50 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: like for watching movies. Even if you just use it 51 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: for your Apple TV and you're watching four K and 52 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: the biggest screen you've ever seen in your life, it's 53 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: fantastic or anything like that, But get I get motion 54 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: sickness so bad, like a third to half of people do. 55 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: That's the biggest hang up to anything VR is the 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 4: motion sickness problem. Until they cure that, I don't see 57 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: how it's ever gonna amount too much. 58 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: I was sure I was going to have that problem 59 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: when we did the demonstration of the station, but I didn't, 60 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: to my surprise, cause you know, I can't. I can't 61 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: ride the damn tea cups at Disneyland because any any 62 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: like weird visual stuff goes on, I'm in complete pass 63 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: out in puke mode. 64 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 65 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: Bother, that's interesting that the actual physical thing gives you that, 66 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: because I don't get that, but I do from the 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: the I stuff. And like I did the ride at 68 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: Universe Studios, the Simpsons ride, which is all a fake 69 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 4: roller coaster. You sit in a little thing, you put 70 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: on the reality vision thing and it's really really cool, 71 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: but it made. 72 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: Me so nauseous. I was sick the rest of the day. 73 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: It was horrible. 74 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 5: I took a little bit of an issue and with 75 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 5: the quest I had the little headset that you put 76 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: in so you get like the full immersed. 77 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 6: I had a real issue with having lost all control 78 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 6: of my surroundings on like actual planet Earth. 79 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 5: Oh really, Yeah, I don't know. 80 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 6: Something really bothered me that, Like, if somebody walked into 81 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 6: my house, Oh, I was rummaging through my stuff, I 82 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 6: would have zero idea because I have this thing strapped 83 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 6: to my forehead. 84 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a little bit of that. Yeah. I 85 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: did a VR thing in La one time. 86 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: I don't remember. 87 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: It was where you you walked around with dinosaurs. It 88 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: was just stunning, cool, absolutely stunning. I would the experience 89 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: of sitting by a lake with the Apple Vision Quest 90 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: on my head or the Apple Pro on my head. 91 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: I can still remember. I can still almost feel when 92 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: I think about it. It was so amazing. It was 93 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: actually like being next to a lake. That experience was 94 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: so fantastic. I could see why you'd want to do 95 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: that on a regular basis. But it's pretty pretty expensive. 96 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: So this one dude, Quintin in the article, he's a realtor. 97 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: He's got them realtor eyes. 98 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, he says, of your watching movies and stuff, 99 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: he says, Oh, I guess he's talking about using it 100 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: for work. 101 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: But he said it's way too heavy. 102 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: I can't wear it for more than twenty or thirty 103 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: minutes without it hurting my neck. 104 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 105 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: I was thinking if i'd watch movies, I'd just lay 106 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 4: in bed on my back looking straight up. I'd be 107 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: pretty comfortable. 108 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute. 109 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Buyers who wore them in the wild say they got 110 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: nothing but dirty looks and sore next. Now the devices 111 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: are daily reminders of they're misplaced. 112 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 6: Bravado, who was going out in public wearing one of those. 113 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was the idea. 114 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to look at it, you look 115 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: through it to give VR assistance everywhere you go. 116 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 5: I don't want to live in that world. 117 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: I don't either, the I think the heaviness. 118 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: Well, so I don't do computer stuff, but if you 119 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: have a job where you do computer stuff, you can 120 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: have everything up on your screen in front of you. You 121 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 4: can have multiple screens. You move it around with your eyes, 122 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: your hands, or you look at things and you click 123 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 4: with your fingers. I mean, it's it's pretty cool, but 124 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: apparently it's not cool enough to make people who do 125 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: a lot of work on computers rather do that than 126 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: sit in front of their screens. 127 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: In their office. 128 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, Michael, No, it's just been my experience at any 129 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 7: of these products over the years involves you putting something 130 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 7: on your head, whether it's three D glasses for TV. 131 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 7: I remember a couple of years ago was supposed to 132 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 7: be big. 133 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe people just like it, accept the idea of 134 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: putting something on your head. I thought the Apple Vision 135 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: Pro might catch on with people who are pretty frequent travelers. 136 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: You aren't just waked looking at your phone to watch 137 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: a movie. You're taking in like the greatest Imax theater, 138 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: sitting in the seat of your plane. But I don't 139 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 4: think I've ever seen one human being with one of 140 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: those on their face on a plane now. 141 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 6: And according to the Google, these things weigh about a 142 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 6: pound and a half. So if you think about that 143 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 6: amount of weight when you're trying to move your neck 144 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 6: around and stuff that kind of residual pole, I could 145 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 6: see how that can start messing things up if you 146 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 6: wear it too much. 147 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: Well, that's so funny. You should bring that up. 148 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: Jack. 149 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: The next thing they talk about is this one dude 150 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: who takes his vision pro on flights to watch movies. 151 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: I get pretty dirty looks from people. 152 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: I don't need that, he says, But then funny people. 153 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: Care about that. 154 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 4: I don't give a crap. If you give me a 155 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: dirty look. I would never notice what you think what 156 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: I'm doing is I can't even imagine caring. 157 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: But another reason the thirty five year old stopped flying 158 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: with it. The size of the case sold separately for 159 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: one hundred ninety nine bucks. The vision pros pillow like 160 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: white protector is about a foot tall, nine inches wide, 161 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: six and a half inches deep. 162 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: Quote. 163 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: It takes up like half the volume of my carry on. 164 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: It's a fair amount of equipment you got to carry 165 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: with this because the battery to have four K at 166 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: that I mean, to have that level of graphics takes 167 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: a pretty powerful back. 168 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: You be able to do it free length of time, 169 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: and you got to carry that around with you. 170 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting. 171 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at eBay and here's one for two 172 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: grand twenty four hundred, twenty six hundred, twenty nine hundred. Ooh, 173 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: here's one for two hundred and fifty six gigabytes and accessories. 174 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: Does that matter, Jack, You. 175 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: Don't need to worry about the gigabytes. 176 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: No, not yet anyway, eighteen hundred and nineteen hundred. Here's 177 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: one for sixteen hundred and twenty five bucks. 178 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: That's about yeah, Because I was looking at them at 179 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: that long ago. A couple grand will get you a 180 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: good one that's hardly been used. If you want to 181 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: try it out, they make one that's a terrabyte or whatever. 182 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: You just don't. You don't need that much. It doesn't 183 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: do you any good. 184 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Oh okay, interesting, you know for for sixteen hundred bucks, 185 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: I guess I could see it. 186 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: Can you like? Can you like tour? 187 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Uh? 188 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: Great? The great cities of the world, do they have 189 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: that sort of a. 190 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: There are a few things like that. That is one 191 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: of the drawbacks. I've done a lot of reading about this, 192 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: because I almost bought one for myself. The big hold 193 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: up is apps. It didn't catch on enough that there 194 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: was enough money in it for any of the big 195 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: app makers to really pour a lot of R and 196 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: D into making great apps, like happened with the iPhone. 197 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: iPhone shows up and then all of a sudden they realized, Wow, 198 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: this is a great opportunity. We should, you know, do 199 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: everything we can to come up with an app people up. 200 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: That has not happened with the Apple Vision pro so 201 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: there just since it's been out a couple of years, 202 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: there haven't been many great apps come along real really 203 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: hardly any. 204 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Wow Wow, here's this one guy, an Apple super fan 205 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: who thought the vision Pro could be the next iPhone. 206 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: He flew to New York from Israel last year to 207 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: be one of the first people to buy the headset. 208 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: At the store, he met Tim Cook and got him 209 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: to sign the back of his iPhone and his vision 210 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: pros box. 211 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: It's incredibly impressive. You just got to figure out what 212 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 4: would I use this for and when? If you haven't 213 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: done the demo, It's really easy to set one up 214 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: at an Apple store. You know you're at gonna be 215 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: at the mall. Set one up, going there and they'll 216 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: demonstrate it for you. It's stunning. 217 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: He says he doesn't regret the purchase. He still loves 218 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: watching movies with his Vision Pro, especially three D films 219 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: like the recent Metallica, sold as an immersive experience of 220 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: the heavy metal band stadium filling live shows. 221 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: It feels like you're at the concert, he says. 222 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 4: If I was childless, I would own one, but I thought, Okay, 223 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: so I got this great, I'm gonna watch one. 224 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: I never watch movies alone. I watch movies with my kids, 225 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: so it's no use to me. 226 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: Sitting in the living room with your kids. Oh guys, 227 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 5: you should see this is about. 228 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: You can't watch this great movie I'm watching while you 229 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: sit and stare at your dad on a Friday night. 230 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: Or the three can sit there each wearing a thirty 231 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: five hundred. 232 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: Dollars spend ten grand exactly. 233 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 234 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: That was the other thing that they thought might catch on, 235 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: is that like you have one on here and your 236 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: daughter in another town has it on, and you communicate 237 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: that way with your avatar. 238 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: But it sounds great, it sounds great, but people don't 239 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: seem to be doing it. 240 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 7: Oh figure, Well, we'll see what happens. But I think 241 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 7: this thing's gonna slowly fade away to be one of 242 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 7: those products we're gonna look back at and go remember when, Yeah, well, 243 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 7: I guess that's it.