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Speaker 1: new episode of Foul Territory. I am pin hitting for

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Speaker 2: My name is Lana Rizzo, along with the guys that

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Speaker 2: you know very well, AJ Pierzinski and Eric Kratz.

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Speaker 3: Charge about.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys.

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Speaker 2: From Ravel Does He's still out there, Ken Rosenthal reporting

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Speaker 2: that the Pirates are trying again in free agency and

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Speaker 2: their latest target is a doozy. I did not have

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Speaker 2: rombervel Does going to the Pirates AJ on my bingo car.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps he does it, but it seems like the Buckos

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Speaker 2: are interested in the Hurler.

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Speaker 1: What say you.

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Speaker 4: Prove it, prove it, prove it you're interested.

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Speaker 5: I'm interested in from Bervaldez coming and pitching for my

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Speaker 5: son's college team. He still has eligibility the way the

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Speaker 5: college basketball is going, right, so I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, prove it. Go out and sign him. You

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Speaker 4: want him.

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Speaker 5: You're saying you want this guy and you want that guy,

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Speaker 5: and listen, you get you got Ryan O'Hearn to a

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Speaker 5: nice deal. But then you said you wanted Schwarber and

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Speaker 5: you wanted Suarez, you wanted him.

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Speaker 4: Prove it, Go get him, Go put him with.

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Speaker 5: Schemes in Jones and Keller and Bubba Chandler and throw

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Speaker 5: from Bervaldez in there as the fifth.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty good rotation. So prove it. Prove it, Pittsburgh Pirates.

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Speaker 4: I hope the fan for the fans sake, they do

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Speaker 4: prove it, because it would be a huge upgrade for

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Speaker 4: him and Eric.

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Speaker 2: The rotation, as AJ was just mentioning, would look pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to take a look at

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Speaker 2: the projected starting rotation, if Fromber was in the mix,

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Speaker 2: I mean I would take that right obviously. Paul Schemes,

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Speaker 2: the cream of the krop, Mitch Keller, Braxton Ashcroft, Bubba Chandler,

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Speaker 2: which I just like saying that Bubba, And then how

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Speaker 2: do you say this last name? Guys, Carmen Ledinski, I mean, Aj,

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Speaker 2: you should know that sounds poolish. I like this again, though, Eric,

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Speaker 2: to AJ's point, you think this is a legitimate landing spot.

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Speaker 1: For from Bert.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm fine saying that I was wrong, Like when

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Speaker 3: the Pirates sign him, come back at me, come back

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Speaker 3: at me. The reason I say no is past history,

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Speaker 3: not even other years, because the Pirates front office ownership,

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Speaker 3: whoever's heading this is definitely making a push. But how

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Speaker 3: badly did they did they need third base offense? Henneo

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Speaker 3: Suarez was out there, couldn't quite push it past the line.

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Speaker 3: How badly did they want first base? They wanted Kyle Schwarber,

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Speaker 3: couldn't quite push it past the line. The one area

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Speaker 3: of strength where they're like or not not going to

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Speaker 3: overpay in our rotation.

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Speaker 6: Is Framber Valdez's position.

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Speaker 3: Like they're gonna have to overpay Framber Valdez for him

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Speaker 3: to go somewhere like Pittsburgh. I don't see them giving

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Speaker 3: them fifty million, I mean one hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 3: for five years or you know, somewhere in the even

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Speaker 3: ranger Suarez type, because he's gonna have to get more

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Speaker 3: if it's a one year, proven deal. He's not just

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Speaker 3: gonna say yeah, I'll take twenty two million just to

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Speaker 3: teams that will be suiting if that's where they're at.

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Speaker 6: So no, I don't think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, the Pirates new pitching coach worked with Valdez guys

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Speaker 2: for the vast majority of the pitcher's professional career career

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Speaker 2: Houston Astros. So there's a guy that knows him well.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps that would lend from Er got to get paid,

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Speaker 2: of course, but perhaps that would lend Fromer to want

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Speaker 2: to go to the Pirates where I mean, let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: how much do you think that plays into this aj?

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Speaker 2: Is it all about money for him? Does he have

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Speaker 2: to get overpaid to go there? Or does familiarity with

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: I think it's a couple of things. I think the

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Speaker 5: calendar is obviously the owner's best friend, right because they

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Speaker 5: feel like they can get guys. That's why a signing

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Speaker 5: deadline would be the worst thing in the world for players.

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Speaker 5: And also familiarity, yes with the pitching coach. Yes, but

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Speaker 5: there's one thing I know from Briveldez wants to go

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Speaker 5: to a place where he can get paid. Okay, and

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Speaker 5: every free agent wants to go to a place where

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Speaker 5: he can get paid. If he gets the longest term

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Speaker 5: and the most money from the Pittsburgh Pirates, I think

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Speaker 5: from rival does goes there, this is the perfect guy

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Speaker 5: for the Pirates to go get. Okay, to shut crats up,

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Speaker 5: to shut me up, to get to shut all the

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Speaker 5: pundits out there of the Pittsburgh Pirates, go get a

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Speaker 5: top ten free agent. Yes, it might be position of strength,

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Speaker 5: but fram Ravaldes, if you sign him to a nice deal,

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Speaker 5: he goes out and performs well, and then you have

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Speaker 5: some of the other guys coming up, do you think

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Speaker 5: something at some point if he's signed to a nice

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Speaker 5: this move. If they get it done, I don't think

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Speaker 5: they will. I think this will be the same as

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Speaker 5: schore Ber and Suarez and all these other guys. You know, listen,

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Speaker 5: they're aggressively after him. But you know who loves this

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Speaker 5: the most, Frambravaldes in his Asian Why because everyone's saying

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Speaker 5: he's going to the Orioles. He's going to the Orioles.

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Speaker 5: Now we hear blue jays are in on him, pirates

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Speaker 5: and say, hey, Orioles, guess what you're Your offer of

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Speaker 5: five one hundred random numbers, not real numbers, is not

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Speaker 5: good enough. We have five one twenty or six one

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Speaker 3: What if he does sign there? Where does this rotation sit?

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Speaker 3: But where does this rotation sit? Because as Alana said, well,

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Speaker 3: probably not going to win the division. To me, I

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Speaker 3: think from Bervaldez, unlike Kyle Schwarmer, unlike Ajohineo Suarez, from

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Speaker 3: bert Valdez might push them to win the divis, push

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Speaker 3: the debate is is a move like this a guy

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Speaker 3: Bubba Chandler. Do they become a top three rotation in

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's enough bats available anymore for them

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Speaker 1: Why is this taking so long? A jay? I mean,

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Speaker 1: is this fromber and his agents holding things up? Is

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't think it's his agent.

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Speaker 5: I think they want to get a deal done. I

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Speaker 5: think Fromber one definitely wants to get a deal done.

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Speaker 5: I think this is just teams saying, oh, we can

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Speaker 5: wait this one out. Where's Zach Allen? We haven't heard

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Speaker 5: a peep about Zach Gallen this entire offseason. I know

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Speaker 5: Sky Borris keeps things very very tight to his chest,

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Speaker 5: whatever the saying is, Neil Dewin. But we haven't heard, yeah,

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Speaker 5: close to the best. We haven't heard much about like

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Speaker 5: the chess better better for better when the girls look

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Speaker 5: at you because you know, but but where's Zach Allen's market?

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Speaker 5: But we you know, obviously Yill and Cetern signed super early.

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Speaker 5: But Bassett, I mean some of these guys verlind are yes,

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Speaker 5: we haven't heard and heard Jose Cantana had a pretty

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Speaker 5: We haven't heard much about a lot of these guys

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Speaker 5: on the starting pitching market. And guess what, guys we're about.

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Speaker 5: It's February fourth, We're about a week away from a

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Speaker 5: weird It's been a weird market for you guys not

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Speaker 3: I just talked to my buddy who's a pitcher and

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Speaker 3: you definitely want a spot. But to answer your question, Alana,

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Speaker 3: this is a player who went to I think the

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Speaker 3: Winter meetings or the GM meetings in person. Franbur Voudez

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Speaker 3: and his agent were there in person talking to teams. So, yes,

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Speaker 3: they wanted to get this done. Yes, they wanted to

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Speaker 6: Well, here we are, February fourth.

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Speaker 3: It's not his it's not his play on the field

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Speaker 3: that is holding this up. He just does not fit

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Speaker 3: qualifying offer. To me, if it's not the questions about

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Speaker 3: what it would be that's holding this market up.

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Speaker 5: Zach Allen doesn't have those things, does.

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Speaker 4: Of those different?

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Speaker 6: Story? Totally different?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, what's holding his market up?

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Speaker 3: What's holding He's that guy, He's that guy that's connected

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Speaker 3: to the qualifying offer that major and we'll get into

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Speaker 3: it at some point, like I talked to I talked

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Speaker 3: him telling me about how they do arbitration things. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about it later with the whole scooball stuff.

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Speaker 3: But it shows me there is every year there's a guy,

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was gonna be Zach Gallen this year.

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Speaker 3: I thought Zach Allen was a nine figure pitcher and

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Speaker 3: guess he had a down year. So you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: a little bit better price for him, but nobody wants it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: I bet he goes back to the Diamondbacks because and

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Speaker 3: they don't lose a pick. Whoever signs him doesn't lose

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Speaker 2: What about fromber in Toronto? The rumors are still swirling

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Speaker 2: aj that he could possibly be a member of the

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Speaker 4: I hate that. I hate that, I hate that.

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Speaker 4: It's how do we know that?

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Speaker 5: There's no way to know unless you sit in that room,

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Speaker 5: So it's just everyone has a different view on everybody,

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Speaker 5: still plays a good defense, he'll I think we talked

435
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Speaker 5: to him not that long ago. He's talking about making

436
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 5: some adjustments in the swing. So I think, yes, I

437
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 5: think he'll he'll help them, but does he make him

438
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 5: a playoff team? The National League's really hard.

439
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 6: That is really hard.

440
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I mean Mett's, Phillies, Braves, Cubs, Brewers, Dodgers.

441
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 5: There's seven I just named for six right, and you

442
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 5: haven't even got to the Padres, Giants, Diamonds. I don't

443
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 5: think they're better than the Reds. I mean there's there's

444
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 5: ten or eleven teams you just named. The National League

445
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 5: is hard. The National League is a better league right

446
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 5: now than the American League. And I'm an American League guy.

447
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: I don't bet against I don't bet against Tory Leavello,

448
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 3: but I don't know if you can make chicken salad

449
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 3: out of chicken, you know what? So I think there's

450
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 3: I think I think the team has the potential to

451
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: be really good. When does Corbyn Burns come back? Are

452
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: they still in it? When they get a Corbyn Burns

453
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: back into this rotation?

454
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 6: Is he?

455
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: Is he Corbyn Burns level Corbyn Burns like it's there's

456
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: too many ifs in that pitching and they weren't able

457
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: to They weren't able to address those things. So it'll

458
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 3: be fun to watch man. I love watching them play

459
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 3: because they run the bases the way you're supposed to.

460
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: That's what we said, all right, So Chandler Rome, who

461
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: covers the Astros, make sure you check out Crush City territory.

462
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: Do you think it's likely that both Lach Parades and

463
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Speaker 2: Christian Walker are on your roster when you get to camp.

464
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: This is what Dana Brown, the GM said. Right now,

465
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: both of them are still part of our roster, and

466
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: we have plans for both of them to play.

467
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: Right now.

468
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: Our plan is for both of them to be here.

469
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: That's basically not saying much. AJ will start with you.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can say that on February fourth, because as

471
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Speaker 1: of right now, they're both. Do you think one or

472
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: both of these guys get moved, No.

473
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Speaker 6: One.

474
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 5: He's gonna say Parades, but I don't think they will,

475
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 5: not not until maybe later in spring training or maybe

476
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Speaker 5: in the season. I just think they're gonna roll with

477
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 5: what they have right now and see how it plays

478
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 5: out and then make make an adjustment, because you know,

479
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 5: this stuff always works itself out, and I just think

480
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 5: it's too close to spring training. I think they'll wait

481
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 5: and then they'll see how spring training plays out and

482
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Speaker 5: then make a decision.

483
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: I say, I do say parades, and I say a

484
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 3: great landing spot is.

485
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 6: The Red Sox.

486
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: There's one is one year left, he would wait, I

487
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: don't say that's confidently now. I'm pretty sure this is

488
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: his last year. I think he's a free agent after

489
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Speaker 3: this year. But I could be wrong. Somebody looked that

490
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: up for me, and I'll retract it if I'm wrong.

491
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: But that right handed bat, like, do they think Marcella

492
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: Meyer needs to go to or needs to be at

493
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Speaker 3: third and then they need a second basement? Okay, well

494
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 3: then that doesn't fit. Like I guess it depends on

495
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: what the Red Sox are doing, but it's not a

496
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: long term deal. I just don't see how you can

497
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: find enough at bats. And I know every spring training

498
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: they say this, And I think this could be like

499
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: an end of spring training type of move when you

500
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: see how well Marcella Meyer does it third, when you

501
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: see how well certain teams' third basements are working out.

502
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: Because if everybody ends spring training healthy, I get it.

503
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: Al Tuove the other year broke his hand, broke his

504
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 3: finger in the WBC. But and they need to stay healthy,

505
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: but they're not moving to the outfield they're not moving

506
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: Jose al Tuove consistently to the outfield, so he'll play second.

507
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: DH is taken up because they need one hundred and

508
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: sixty two games out of your don Carlos Correa, like,

509
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 3: I get it. They'll figure it out. They picked them

510
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: up last year and they said they'll figure it out

511
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: when they need to. Well, now is when they need to.

512
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: And they wanted to make a run at it last

513
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 3: year and they came up short. But Carlos Correa is

514
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 3: playing third, and Christian Walker do that bad last year.

515
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: If you have somebody hitting thirty homers at first base,

516
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: it wasn't up to his standard. I don't think he's

517
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 3: as easily movable, and so I think it's paradeous And

518
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: it's not anything against him. I mean, the dude was

519
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: an All Star last year. But everybody's always expendable until

520
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: they're not.

521
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: According to Baseball Reference, Guys Parades has a little over

522
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: four years of service time. He was arbitration eligible after

523
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five season. He won't be a free

524
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: agent until twenty twenty eight. Hey, j if I am

525
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: a Tigers fan, all I care about is that you

526
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: give Erk Skuble whatever the hell it is that he's

527
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: asking for. I believe his arbitration has already started, or

528
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: it's about to start.

529
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 4: His arbitration run over, it's about over.

530
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right? I mean, don't you do You guys

531
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: were talking about it. I think on.

532
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Foul earlier that he should bring his cy Young Awards

533
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: to the damn table and put him on the table

534
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: and be like, are we are you kidds me with

535
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: this right now? Like the gap in terms of what

536
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: he thinks he deserves and what the team thinks he deserves.

537
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the right move here?

538
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 5: Aj sign him, but it will already happened, that the

539
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 5: time has already passed. Sign him, give him what he wants.

540
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 5: I don't know what's the right move at this point. Well,

541
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 5: they've they've painted themselves in a corner now, and the

542
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 5: right move is they didn't settle because they went to

543
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 5: the trial already, So there is no right move. The

544
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 5: right move now is see what happens and then go

545
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 5: from there. And he's gonna walk at the end of

546
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 5: the year, and they're gonna give him a qualifying offer

547
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 5: and get a draft pick out of him unless they're

548
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 5: out of it and they trade him, which they don't

549
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: think they will be.

550
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: So the right move was.

551
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 5: What aj Hinch said to me at the Baseball Writers'

552
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: Association dinner the other night, which I said to him

553
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: and he couldn't believe I said it, but people that

554
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 5: know me know me. We were in Seattle for the

555
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 5: Division Series before game it was the day before Game one.

556
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 5: It was the workout day and I'm talking to Schooball

557
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: and I'm talking to Hinch and it's me and Adam

558
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 5: Wayne right, and Scott Harris walks over, their president of

559
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 5: Baseball ops and says hello, and we start talking.

560
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: We all kind of start talking.

561
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 5: I just look at Scott Harris and I say, hey,

562
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: what's gonna take to sign Schooble. Let's get this done

563
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 5: right here. I'll negotiate the deal. And Scott Harris turned

564
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 5: white as a ghost, and aj Hinch was trying to

565
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 5: hide his laughter, and Schooble just looked at me, smiled

566
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 5: and kind of walked away laughing. And that about sums

567
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 5: it up. There is no right thing to do, so

568
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 5: let's just make it completely awkward and see what happens,

569
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 5: because that's what it's at right now.

570
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: This isn't the Tiger's fault, Tigers fans, Tiger territory that

571
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: everybody needs to know. This is not the Tiger's fault.

572
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: This is not a team versus schooble thing. This is

573
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball versus the players. Major League Baseball would

574
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: not allow the Tigers to agree and negotiate with somebody

575
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: that's going to go down as one of the best

576
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: Tigers pitchers of all time, like why because of the

577
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: president it would send for or it would set for

578
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: the rest of major League history, the rest of guys.

579
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 3: We're still looking at David Price's nineteen point seven million

580
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: dollars eleven years ago as the highest paid pitcher and

581
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 3: arbitration and Juan Soto made over thirty million dollars. This

582
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: is a chance to change the timeline, change the amount

583
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 3: of money that pitchers get because Terrek Scouble could not

584
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: have had two better years to come into this last

585
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 3: arbitration chance. And Major League Baseball would not allow the

586
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: Tigers to agree to this. They'll never admit to it,

587
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: but there is no way that they would ever allow

588
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: them to pay him twenty eight million dollars twenty nine

589
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: million dollars. Well, if they don't win here. If Major

590
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: League Baseball doesn't win, they're going to pay him thirty two.

591
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: And it was a big backfire. And this is not

592
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: a Tigers versus a Schooble thing. So fans, you have

593
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: not alienated Tarrek Schouble in my opinion.

594
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: So.

595
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yes they have.

596
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 5: No I totally I agree with some of the things

597
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 5: Eric said, But the Tigers can also make a decision

598
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 5: and say, hey, we need to raise our offer above

599
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 5: what David Price got in twenty fifteen. So yes, do

600
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 5: I think that it's necessarily all the all MLB's fault

601
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 5: or all the Tigers know, But I also believe that

602
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: the Tigers should have tried after maybe his first say

603
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 5: in the lock you ve and I know Scott Boris

604
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 5: doesn't have a history of that, but they also it

605
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 5: is you can't just say it's not the Tiger's fault.

606
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 5: The Tigers have something to do with this. They put

607
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 5: their number. Why didn't they put their number at twenty

608
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 5: five million?

609
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 6: Am to majorly?

610
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 5: They have people that do it Major Legue Baseball, So okay,

611
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: So then why did Scout Boris go to thirty two?

612
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball didn't tell him to do that. The

613
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 5: Alumni Player Association didn't tell him to do that. He

614
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: came up with his own number. The Tigers think on

615
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 5: their own and if they wanted to get this done,

616
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: the Tigers could have gone to MLB. He said, hey, guys,

617
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 5: we're gonna settle at the midpoint twenty five and a

618
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 5: half and let's move on. But they didn't want to.

619
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 5: That's their philosophy, and that's fine, that's their right. But

620
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: they could lose or they could win. And it's one

621
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: of the most intriguing cases, I'm sorry in arbitration history,

622
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: because if Trek Scoople can't win, then I don't know

623
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 5: who else can win for players?

624
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: Is this an ownership philosophy change? I have to believe

625
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: the former owner would have been like, we're gonna give

626
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: this kid you want to. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

627
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: I feel like hal Steinbrenner of the Yankees is a

628
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: little bit more conservative than George was. I feel like

629
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: Mike Ilitch is a little bit more would have what

630
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: I would have gone forward a little bit more. I

631
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: don't know, you guys, tell me, I mean, is this

632
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: an ownership philosophy change?

633
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 4: Is this?

634
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: What is this? I mean, why can't they sit at

635
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: the table right now if whoever with the front office

636
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: of the Tigers is there and say, hey, you know what,

637
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna forget this arbitration hearing? Can they can they

638
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: extend him now?

639
00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: Cut off?

640
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: But it's too Hey, they've heard of it on the here.

641
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: But how many how many times has has Scott Boris

642
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: accepted an extension before a guy hits free agency?

643
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 6: Never?

644
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but I don't want to

645
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: say never. I know there was, but it would have

646
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: to be massive. I mean, you're talking about a record

647
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: setting picture contract to the you know, to the extent

648
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: of four hundred thousand dollars four hundred million like that.

649
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: I guarantee you this, And I don't know if it's

650
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: true or not, but I can guarantee you one thing.

651
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 5: Trek scooblel is well liked around the league. He got

652
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: a lot of texts today and yesterday, in this morning

653
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: and probably during this trial from players saying go get

654
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: every dollar you can because they understand how important this is.

655
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: I guarantee the players that have his number that know

656
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 5: about this all texts Trek school day and said, hey man,

657
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 5: we really want you to win this because this is

658
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: big not only for you and your family, but for

659
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Speaker 5: everyone that's coming behind you.

660
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Speaker 4: Like Scott A.

661
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 5: Kasaki said, you know, you try to make it better

662
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 5: for the players behind you. School is a landmark case.

663
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: It can make it better for a lot of people.

664
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Speaker 5: AJ said it yesterday. It's historical.

665
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Speaker 3: It's historical to the point where the reason I said,

666
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: major League Baseball doesn't you know this is a major

667
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: League Baseball thing.

668
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 6: I get it.

669
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Speaker 3: The Tigers have a little bit of culpability in this,

670
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: but at the GM meetings they go over their arbitration

671
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: cases and then Major League Baseball comes back to them

672
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: and says, eh, maybe this is how far you should go.

673
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's right.

674
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying that's how they go over it, and that's

675
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: how they come up with these numbers, and that's why

676
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: these numbers are stay pretty linear, pretty along the same

677
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: lines for everybody. It's a way to keep keep salaries down,

678
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: and no way Major League Baseball is just gonna say, Tigers,

679
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: whatever you guys want to do with this historical, groundbreaking

680
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: financial salary increase, will trust you. I just I have

681
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: a hard time believing it, and I think and I

682
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: think Boris knows that too. Boris Boris is like he's

683
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: always been so good at getting the contract for the

684
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: schoobl for the later Paul schemes for the next you know,

685
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: Bubba Chandler could be the next Terrek School. We don't

686
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: know who the next Ark school is going to be.

687
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: But Boris has always done a good job of pushing that,

688
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: pushing that stake forward for player salaries.

689
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Speaker 1: A J did you ever go to arbitration for anything?

690
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 5: I went, I went, I went me, I went through it,

691
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 5: I sat through it, I won, I won a lot,

692
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: I went through it the whole thing.

693
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you and you've never cramped in your

694
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: life and you're the greatest ever. But let me ask

695
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Speaker 2: you this when you're in when you're in an arbitration hearing, right,

696
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: and we talked about this on the show on Monday,

697
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: that you can manipulate numbers to service any narrative.

698
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: That you want to put out there.

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00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: So you're in an arbitration hearing with your team, the

700
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: team that you know you're playing for is at the table.

701
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: With their team.

702
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: What are the numbers that are being looked at and

703
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: how are those numbers being manipulated to service either side

704
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: like this, this supposed you know, neutral arbiter.

705
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: What are they looking at? Take take me through arbitration.

706
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: Well, there's three arbiters, so it's not just one, there's three,

707
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 5: and you present your number, they and the MLB presents

708
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 5: their number. Now, normally you're allowed to look one year ahead,

709
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 5: so like if it depends on what year you are

710
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 5: in arbitration, so if you're a three, you can look

711
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 5: at fours and you can look back and forward one year.

712
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 5: Usually usually always look forward because guys salaries keep going up.

713
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 5: But in Derek Schoubel's case, this is where it's special.

714
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 5: He can actually look at free agent deals and go

715
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 5: off free agent deals because he's one year away from

716
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 5: free agency. So that's where his number gets really interesting

717
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: with what he filed at because he's going into a

718
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 5: sixth year. But he can also use Max Schurz or

719
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: Justin Erlin or all these guys who have gotten these

720
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 5: huge contracts as pictures. He can use that as a

721
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 5: one year deal and say, look this guy got two

722
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 5: years ago, three years ago, got forty million or whatever

723
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 5: ver Lander and Sureza got from the Mets a few

724
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 5: years ago, and say well they have Yes, they might

725
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 5: have one more song, but they also have more time

726
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: in the league and YadA YadA. Yeah, so we think

727
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 5: he's not worth that much, but he's definitely worth more

728
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: than the nineteen million that David Price made back in

729
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen. So that's where it gets. And the arbiters

730
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 5: don't most of them, they don't know anything about baseball.

731
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: They're just That's why I was.

732
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: Just going to ask you, that's exactly what my next point.

733
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: So these these neutral arbiters, there's three of them, as

734
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: you mentioned, they don't know the game. They don't know

735
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: Trek's impact of Like would they know who Trek Skouble

736
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: is if he wasn't in that bordero? Would they know

737
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: who like a Juan Soto was, or a Show Hey,

738
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 2: or a Paul skeins Is Hey. They were going based

739
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: off just the numbers. How do you how do you

740
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: make that decision?

741
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: Then it's it's not only numbers.

742
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 5: I remember my case, I got to speak, which they

743
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: not a lot of players speak, but they asked me

744
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, I want to talk. And

745
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 5: then they asked me to explain what a catcher does

746
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: compared to a normal position player. On a daily basis,

747
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 5: and I walked them through and Ek knows what what

748
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 5: we do. Deocratsy knows what we do, and that's you know,

749
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: we have so much more responsibility than just being a

750
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: hitter or just being a catcher. You have to kind

751
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 5: of do both, and you have to worry about pictures

752
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: and you have to do this, You have to study

753
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 5: more film, you have to look at all this, and

754
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 5: so they let me explain what my daily life was like.

755
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 5: And I remember looking at the arbitrags and one of

756
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: a couple were like, Wow, we didn't realize that you

757
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 5: had to do all that compared to a normal hitter, right,

758
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 5: So they really don't. It's supposed to be neutral, and

759
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 5: I get it. It's just one of those things that

760
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: the process stinks, but it's good for the players. So

761
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 5: the owners want to hold it down, the players want

762
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: to pump it up. Obviously, it's a bad situation that

763
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: you have to go in front of three people that

764
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: really don't know what they're doing and argue pros and

765
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: cons and listen to your team. For scoobl who's been

766
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 5: with the Tigers his entire life, and they're going to

767
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: say things about him and he's going to be like,

768
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 5: that's insanity. But and then he has to go back

769
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 5: in a week and show up to Lakeland and be like, hey, guys,

770
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 5: Scott Harris Greenberg, everything's fine, guys. Don't worry what you

771
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: said about me in that room when you're sitting across

772
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: from me.

773
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: It's fine. I'm good. I'm happy to be here. Yeah,

774
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 4: it's tough.

775
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: I would I would think that sometimes feelings get hurt

776
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: or relationships change because of this.

777
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 5: Ask Corvin Burns. Yeah, ask Corbyn Burns, corn Burns. They

778
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 5: lost you, guys, it's come out.

779
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: They didn't make the playoffs because of Corvin Burns had

780
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: like two bad starts in August.

781
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: Like he's like.

782
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: Me for real, AJ, this one should be better for

783
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: you because I know you don't like bets right now

784
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: in the eighties. But the regular season wins for the Nationals.

785
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: Woof's looking bleak for the Nats for twenty twenty six

786
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: over under on sixty five and a half regular season wins, AJ.

787
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: What do you say?

788
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 5: Easy? This one's easy under. You can't see me and

789
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 5: I'm going thumbs down like gladiator thumbs. Don't they just

790
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: traded away? I mean, listen, they trade away Mackenzie Gord

791
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 5: was their best picture. They weren't good last year. The

792
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 5: division got better. The Braves should be better, the Marlin

793
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: should be better. The Phillies are gonna be good again.

794
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 5: The Mets should be better. I don't see him not

795
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 5: losing one hundred games. I'm sorry, I just don't know

796
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 5: how they don't lose a hundred games.

797
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm locking this one in. I'm sorry. You

798
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: can't give me. You can't give me sixty five, sixty

799
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: five and a half. I was joking yesterday, I mean

800
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: not joking, but this is a confident one. So I'm

801
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: locking it in for everybody here, sixty five and a half.

802
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: I'm taking the under for sure, at me if you

803
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: think otherwise, because where's it gonna happen. James Wood is

804
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: gonna carry this team.

805
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 6: C J.

806
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: Abrams gonna take the next step. I like some of

807
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: their position player corps, but they just got rid of

808
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: their best picture, their closer for the last few years,

809
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Kyle Finnegan.

810
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 6: He's not back.

811
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: He was there for two thirds of the season. This

812
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: is an under and I'm locking it in.

813
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. Now, AJ thinks they could lose one

814
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: hundred games.

815
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: Are you going that low?

816
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 6: Yes?

817
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: Okay, all right out and again and two others.

818
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 5: They have a lot a lot of overs in the

819
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 5: Nationals because they're theirs. Pitching is not very good, so

820
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: I'm sorry they traded Ferrer the lefty too for we

821
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 5: love Harry Ford, but he was.

822
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: Like one of their great bullpen pieces too, let's not forget.

823
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: And they have and they have an entirely new coaching staff,

824
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: like I've coached at the big league level, right, And

825
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna like it's it's there's too many

826
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: things that just have to hit this like perfect thin

827
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: line for them to win sixty six games.

828
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Mhm.

829
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: See career nine to five to one in our chat,

830
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: says he's taken the under. He also wouldn't be surprised

831
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: if Abrams goes in the next two weeks. All right,

832
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Speaker 2: Time now to Slaphands. Journalism is a tough gig, guys,

848
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: and we just wanted to take a moment to note

849
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: the closing of the Washington Post Sports department. Terrific national

850
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: beat writers like Andrew Golden, Spencer, nosbamb Chelsea Janes, and

851
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: longtime reporter Arries. I can never say his name right,

852
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: and I know I should be able to Solvlerga among

853
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: the people who are affected. Someone tell me how to

854
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: say that, because I always say it wrong and he

855
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: doesn't deserve that. We're thinking about you, We're thinking about

856
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: the Washington Post. We're thinking about I mean, it's hundreds

857
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: of people, guys, thousands of layoff, not just in the

858
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: sports department but in the international department at the Washington Post.

859
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: It's funny or not funny ironic. NBA had a big

860
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: trade today and there's nobody in the Washington Post that's

861
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: covering it because the actually traded the Washington and that's

862
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: a bummer.

863
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: That's a bummer.

864
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: So we just want to let you know that we're

865
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: thinking of our colleagues. All right, let's talk a little

866
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: bit about the play Makers Classic.

867
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Speaker 1: We are going to to be there.

868
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: In fact, it's the fourth Playmakers Classic, presented by Fanatics.

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Speaker 2: It's a fundraising and recognition event in support of the

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball Players Trust, the nonprofit arm of.

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Speaker 1: The Players Association.

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Speaker 2: Support generated at this event supports communities and causes inspired

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Speaker 2: by Major League players across the US, Latin America, and

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Speaker 2: the broader Caribbean. Some of the activities at the Classic

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Speaker 2: DJ sets a silent auction featuring some amazing sport experience package.

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Speaker 1: Maybe AJ puts up his toilet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, super Bowl tickets for Super Bowl sixty one,

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Speaker 2: Lionel Messi autographed jersey, NASCAR Cup Series, VIP experience, and more.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss it.

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Speaker 2: This is an event that has anticipated to sell out quickly.

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Speaker 2: Visit players Trust dot org. That is Players Trust dot Org.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be there. It's going to be fun looking

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Speaker 2: forward to that. I'm assuming you guys have participated in

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Speaker 2: this event before.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, one in Vegas. Oh okay, that was Vegas. That's right.

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Speaker 6: It was good, it was great. I won't be there.

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Speaker 4: And Mark. We got Mark to buy us a meal.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I love that. That's that's our boss.

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Speaker 6: By the way, all right, guys, and you showed up.

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Speaker 6: He buys.

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Speaker 3: He buys plenty of meals, but you normally don't show up.

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Speaker 6: You're so sleepy.

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Speaker 3: I've got to meet with somebody that's a private jet,

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Speaker 3: so I won't be able to make up.

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Speaker 6: I won't not me I see.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know anybody that has a private jet.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 6: Eric.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to krats hats.

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Speaker 3: Sure, And I gotta give I gotta give a shout

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Speaker 3: out to the fact that I'm one. I'm wearing a

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Speaker 3: Dodgers hat. I gotta give a shout out to Scott

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Speaker 3: Akasaki's son, Timothy, who listens to us almost every day

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Speaker 3: in the show.

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Speaker 6: So appreciate you, Timothy.

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Speaker 1: All right, Timothy, Yes, since Scott Akasaki.

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Speaker 2: And also, and I'm not just saying this, guys, because

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Speaker 2: he's a Dodger. But the Miguel Rojas interview today and

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Speaker 2: some of the answers that he presented was one of

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Speaker 2: the better interviews I've actually ever heard a player that

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Speaker 2: is that honest and candid and the passion shows through.

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Speaker 1: So Miguel Rojas, Migio, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: All Right, guys, great to be with you as always,

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Speaker 2: appreciate you very much. Scott bron is back tomorrow, so

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Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of your Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Our territory resume tomorrow and we'll see you then.