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Speaker 2: the hell we feel in here on a Thursday morning.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling good man. I felt overly entertained last night

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Speaker 3: a bit by Shane Gillison The SPI's I'm always curious though,

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Speaker 3: to get the reaction. I've not checked social media to

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Speaker 3: see who got offended, Who saw you know, whose feelings

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Speaker 3: were hurt because he made a couple jokes that might

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Speaker 3: have crossed the line. Here or there.

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Speaker 4: That's what they're there to do. That's why they bring

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Speaker 4: them in across the line. That's why they're comedians. You

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Speaker 4: get away with it, you know. But people are very

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Speaker 4: sensitive these days and well catching aliens today in today's world,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's it's gonna be it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be interesting conversations that ensue afterwards, you know, whether it's

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Speaker 4: Adam Silver or you know, or the baseball player that

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Speaker 4: he named you know, what was his last name, Sosa

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Speaker 4: or something to that effect. What was it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I feel like, Uh, the thing I

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Speaker 2: like about Shane Gillis is anybody can get it like

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Speaker 2: it doesn't there is no I've got I've got a

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Speaker 2: certain grouping I'll go after. Like no, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: go after everybody. And everybody got a little taste of

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Speaker 2: Shane Gillis last night at the SP's. I do not

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Speaker 2: partake in the SP's personally. Uh, it feels very manufactured.

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Speaker 2: But when you see that it's a show, well, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's a show and it's a bad one. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's not very good. I don't know who made up

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Speaker 2: the sps, who came up with it. It's just it

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Speaker 2: ain't great, but it's just not my thing, not my

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Speaker 4: But shots out to my homie, Katie, my litter mate,

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Speaker 4: we were in school together. Shots out to her, Shots

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Speaker 4: out the Saquon. I thought the SPS did really well

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Speaker 4: representing h representing Penn State's community, and I was proud

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Speaker 4: of us. Thanks to the SPS for, you know, giving

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Speaker 4: us so much love. We are yeah Penn State baby.

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Speaker 2: Talking about we give we give Penn State love here

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Speaker 2: on this show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well all right, yeah all right, yeah top gunn

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Speaker 4: top top Yeah, here we go. Yeah, we are baby.

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Speaker 2: So with that being said, here was some snippets from

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Speaker 2: Shane Gillis last night, and we'll just roll through and

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Speaker 2: play one right after the other, and then after we're

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Speaker 4: How many clips are there? One, one, two, three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 4: six clips? Let's let's rank four yeah not five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll go let's just uh, let's fire them

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Speaker 1: After number one.

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Speaker 5: S g A is here, give it up for SGA.

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Speaker 5: Hell yeah, bro, And now everybody's sitting around him is

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Speaker 1: The New Yorks had a great season.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, hell yeah.

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Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns is here. Hay girl.

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Speaker 5: Four time w NBA All Star Britney Hicks is here.

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Speaker 5: Give it up for Brittany. Everybody, this was so good.

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Speaker 5: I'm uh, I'm joking around. That's my friend's wife.

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Speaker 3: I knew.

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Speaker 5: None of you knew WNBA players. Snor Sanders had his

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Speaker 5: saying it's because of nepotism, because of his father, and

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Speaker 5: not nepotism, right, all right? Donald Trump wants to stage

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Speaker 4: Alright, you don't have to do that.

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Speaker 5: It was fine. I didn't write it. Actually, there was

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Speaker 4: Guys have got deleted.

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Speaker 5: Must have probably deleted itself, right, probably never existed. Actually,

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Speaker 4: Uh, y'all want rank them? YEA want? Number one? Was

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Speaker 4: the last last one was number one? I'm gonna going

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Speaker 2: I don't know the Caitlin Clark fighting flouse.

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Speaker 4: That's gotta be a number two. I go number two

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Speaker 3: The funny thing about the pretty Hicks one was I

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Speaker 4: She didn't even play in the w n b A.

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Speaker 4: I mean it proved the point though, Stop acting like like,

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Speaker 4: It will not. It will not. All these people saying

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Speaker 4: put your own blast because all y'all cat's ringing the

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Speaker 4: Why they got to approve your your material?

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Speaker 3: First off? First off, why that's what everyone said after

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Speaker 3: he got canned from Saturday Live. Then he comes back

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Speaker 2: I just think people are too sensitive over there, man,

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Speaker 2: you know, I didn't write it, and then he adds

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Speaker 2: just you know, there's I just I remember Norm McDonald

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Speaker 4: You hire never played, Never Played, You hire comedians to

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Speaker 4: do awkward and and like weird stuff. Yes, that you

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Speaker 4: want people to feel weirded out and awkward from That's

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Speaker 4: why you hire them. That's why you hire them. If

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Speaker 4: that's not the direction you're going in, I mean, you

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Speaker 4: feel about it. I mean, come on, let's let's be

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Speaker 4: real here. Dang ce Q looking like John Travolta.

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Speaker 3: No one, I don't know that you want to be.

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Speaker 4: Going preling walk talk like a t bur praling. Y'all

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Speaker 4: know about y'all know about Grease. No, y'all know about

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Speaker 4: Grease the team.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen Grease in a long time. Come on, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm one hundred percent okay with admitting that too.

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Speaker 4: Dang bro, that's a good that's a good musical man,

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Speaker 4: all of them were. Man, that's sad.

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Speaker 3: Look real quick, real quick? All right? Can we pass

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Speaker 3: up the Karl Anthony towns Hey girl.

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Speaker 2: Hey girl, Hey girl, fantastic?

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, I just I think I got lost

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Speaker 3: in the shuffle of everything else that was on and

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Speaker 3: then also has has Prime responded back to the Schdor

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, but he I mean, yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: a good point. He would make time.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, uh, fifteen and thirteen, dang I had thirteen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he does own like every stat I

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Speaker 3: And by the way, there were a one win team

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. And also, is that Dion Sanders fault

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Speaker 2: some of those guys? Was it Dion Figures? Who was

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Speaker 2: the guy who want to tell you? Yeah, like, why

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Speaker 2: didn't they step up and do something about it? Like

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Speaker 2: if he was great, he had all those years to

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Speaker 2: celebrate him, they didn't do it like that Dion's fault.

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Speaker 4: That's a pretty interesting one. I mean, again, he's not

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Speaker 4: I don't know when you look at the Chador Sanders situation,

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Speaker 4: he's broken records and stuff like that, But you have

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Speaker 4: a guy in Dion Figures who is in the College

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Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame. He is in the College Football

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Speaker 4: And you have a guy that's in the College Football

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Speaker 4: under a different guy who won't be a College Football

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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. Well, Brittany, that's just a little perspective.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not trying to throw shade. I'm just

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Will Brittany Hicks get her jersey retire?

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Speaker 4: That's It's a great question. That's a great, great question.

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Speaker 3: At some point, I think we should be we should

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Speaker 3: be part of the movement. Let's let's start this movement.

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Speaker 3: Let's be the ones that push Yeah, not that one,

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Speaker 3: not that hashtag Hicks Hall.

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Speaker 2: Britney Hicks babble that night. And for some franchise out

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Speaker 2: there that's looking to draw like that's that'll be a

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Speaker 2: collector's item one day based on what Gillis did.

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Speaker 3: Uh lean into it, right to lean into it?

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Speaker 4: The hey girl, like you say, a Q, I mean

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Speaker 4: there's something to that one. I mean there's something to

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Speaker 4: that one.

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Speaker 2: What is to that?

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Speaker 4: I didn't get that one? Oh really you didn't get

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Speaker 3: Tell me what you talked about this during the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this during the run.

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Speaker 4: Man, real feel, real zesty feel to it. But you know, hey,

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Speaker 4: you know it's all right. I mean he's the big cat.

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Speaker 4: You know, they don't call him the big dog. They

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Speaker 4: I just thought that was show. Show culture is to

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Speaker 3: I think if Shane Gillis never got asked to do

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's like he got his money.

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Speaker 4: it's ranged from fifteen hundred dollars to something other, which

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Who Norm McDonald when he hosted, reportedly received fifteen

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Speaker 4: no doubt he gambled that away right afterwards. Oh really,

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Speaker 4: they're in Vegas. They're here and Norm McDonald. Nor McDonald's

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Speaker 4: Gambling you love fighting out like peoples downside. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Uh that are gambling scandals, Uh, Tim donaghy, Uh, Norm McDonald,

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Speaker 4: Bruno Mores.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, Bruno Mars, the degenerate.

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Speaker 3: The live tour. I think he's free range to consult it.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with gambling. I'm just pointing out Norm

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Speaker 2: sixty five seventy yards. I can't move, and I think

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00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,239
Speaker 2: I'm capable of doing a lot. It's funny because to

436
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: me being in Denver in my first year, I was

437
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: hurt most of the time and battled through it. The

438
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: second year I felt like myself again. Then going to

439
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh obviously unfortunately I got injured early in the season,

440
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: didn't end up the way we wanted it to, but

441
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: it just rejuvenated everything. And then being here in New

442
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: York with the Giants, it's like playing at the stadium

443
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: again knowing that I've held the trophy here before. So

444
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: that was Russell Wilson talking with Connor Orr about his

445
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 2: desire to keep playing four or five more years. This

446
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: is his fourth team in five years. Hasn't the market

447
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: kind of already spoken on him? And they just drafted

448
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: a quarterback in the first round, So it feels like

449
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: it's more likely that if.

450
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 4: You brought in a backup that could beat him out.

451
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels like it's more likely that if

452
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: he does want to play four or five more years,

453
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: it's going to be in situations like this where yeah,

454
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: he's the starter for the time being until the rook

455
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: or the younger quarterback gets developed. That's what it feels

456
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: like at this point in his career.

457
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Speaker 4: Go cute, you got it.

458
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Speaker 3: I think it's hard for every athlete. It doesn't matter,

459
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: by the way, like at what level, but in particular

460
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: when you're at the professional level, and even for someone

461
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: who has won a Super Bowl, has been to two,

462
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: has you know, played at an MVP level, I think

463
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 3: to feel like they're not able to get the job done, right.

464
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: I think we all like to some degree. I mean again, LeVar,

465
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's times when you see, man, man, you're like, oh,

466
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: I could take them. Like if I find you need

467
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: to go in for a few plays, I could do it. Now,

468
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: can you do it consistently for the entirety of a game,

469
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Speaker 3: for the entirety of a season. That's where it gets

470
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 3: a lot more difficult, not only for your your level

471
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Speaker 3: of performance, but just to stay healthy. I mean, one

472
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Speaker 3: of the things that he admitted to you when he's

473
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Speaker 3: saying this too, is the injuries that have crept up

474
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: more and more. You remember how durable l Wilson was

475
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 3: at the beginning of his career, despite the fact that

476
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: he put himself in harm's way all the time. I mean, dude,

477
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: how often did we see him in his rookie and

478
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: even second, third, fourth seasons. There'd be these players where

479
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: you'd be like, holy cow, is Houdini? How do you

480
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: find his way out of that? How did he make

481
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: that throw? How did he make that player get out

482
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: of you know, and scrambled it to run and pick

483
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: up the first down. Now, at times, you know, he

484
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: never took the big shot for the most part, But

485
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: I think as it wore on and as he kind

486
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: of realized that that's harder and harder to do. As

487
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: you age and you're not quite as fast or explosive,

488
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: your game has to change as well. And I think

489
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: that's one of the things that not just for him.

490
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: It's difficult for any professional athlete to be able to

491
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: see that because the game mentally is slown down, like

492
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: what you see out there is like in slow mo.

493
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: You know where everyone's supposed to be, you know what

494
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: the responsibilities are. Then it becomes more of a battle

495
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: of the physical and your ability to actually do it

496
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: and get your body to do what you wanted to

497
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Speaker 3: do when you need it to be done. And that's

498
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: where I feel like there's a bit of a disconnect

499
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: probably between you know, how he's feeling, how he's played,

500
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: but what he thinks about, you know, everything mentally, because

501
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: he's like, dude, this game's never felt easier in my

502
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: mind watching it and seeing it. So it's it's just

503
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: kind of interesting to me when you hear these words

504
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: because at times, you know they might come off it

505
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: sound like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite. You know, it

506
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: comes off a little bit like that.

507
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Speaker 4: But how much you want to make a bet I

508
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: can throw a football over.

509
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Speaker 7: The mountain, I'll just say like, at times it feels

510
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 7: like that, but then at other times you go, okay,

511
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 7: like he just feels like he's healthy now he's in

512
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 7: a better spot to go and perform.

513
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Speaker 3: But time will tell. I mean the draft pick two

514
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: behind him that you know the fans are gonna be

515
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: clamoring for him. The organization is eventually going to want

516
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: to see what they have in Jackson Dart. He's obviously

517
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: a first round draft pick for a reason. So the

518
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: running's that kind of already on the wall, and I

519
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: think that's what makes it difficult for Russell Wilson. The

520
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: spot he has to hit the ground running. There can't

521
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 3: be any lag or stall or anything in his performance.

522
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: And the injuries like he had last year starting off

523
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh where he couldn't get into the season healthy,

524
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: none of that can take place. He's got a very

525
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: very slim margin for air to start this thing, get

526
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Speaker 3: off on a hot start to maintain being the starting quarterback.

527
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Speaker 2: By the way, to your point, he didn't miss a

528
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: start until his last year in Seattle, and I think

529
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: that was the mallet finger he suffered. He suffered the

530
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: mallet finger his final year in Seattle, and then he

531
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: missed a couple of games, but before that, never missed

532
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: a game, never missed a start his entire career.

533
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Speaker 3: And by the way, and I've told you this because

534
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: as I to this day, I had malefinger my index

535
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: fingers on my throng hands. Never never felt the same

536
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: after that. And you know, again, I don't know exactly

537
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: what he went through from the procedure everything else. And

538
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 3: it sounds like something so small, like LeVar is probably like, oh,

539
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: like what are your index finger?

540
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 4: No?

541
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: No, But it's like for a throw, it's important, right,

542
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 3: Like that's like a little thing where you see, like

543
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: a major league baseball pitcher, he's like on the il

544
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: for like a hangnail, but like it's kind of important

545
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: if they can't throw the way they need to. And

546
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: I don't know that he's ever been the same throwing

547
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: the football in his career after that. And again, something small,

548
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: but those injuries add up and it changes the way

549
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: you play.

550
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 4: Let me throw this out at you guys. We talked

551
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: about Bill Belichick or excuse me, Robert Kraft and what

552
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: he had to say and taking the risk in hiring

553
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, which to me was a flex to remind

554
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: people like, let's slow down here, let's not get carried

555
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: away about talking about Bill Belichick because he's going to

556
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: be a Hall of Fame coach. Let's not get carried

557
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: away about who he was a part of making a

558
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 4: legendary player and Tom Brady because I'm the one that

559
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: made it all possible with what I did. He's searching

560
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: for that battle. He's searching for that appreciation. I look

561
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: at Russell Wilson, and I think he's searching for the validation.

562
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: I think he's still searching for the appreciation. He's going

563
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: to two Super Bowls, as you've mentioned, he's won one

564
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl, as we've mentioned. I don't know what the

565
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: ten Pro Bowls are. I don't know if they are

566
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: first first ballot Pro Bowlers or if they're alternate Pro Bowlers,

567
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: which it does. I mean at some point, I don't

568
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: know if it still matters, but at some point it

569
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: mattered if you were an alternate versus if you were

570
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: a starter to the Pro Bowl. So I don't know

571
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Speaker 4: how many of those ten are are one or the other.

572
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: But outside of that, he's never been a first team

573
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Speaker 4: All Pro and if you look at his body of work,

574
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Speaker 4: if he's not as appreciated as he needs to be

575
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: going into retirement or possibly ending up being a career

576
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: backup for the rest of his time, as an NFL player,

577
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: is he is he at risk of not being a

578
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, And I wonder if that is what's

579
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: circulating in his mind within this five year period of time.

580
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: I'm in a great market. It's a really good situation

581
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: to be in. I know New York has struggled, but

582
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: I'm kind of high on this Giants team this year.

583
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: I think they're going to surprise some people. And if

584
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: he can be the catalyst at the quarterback's position in

585
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: that that type of a season doing it in New York.

586
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: Is one year enough depending on what type of success

587
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: they have to solidify his career, or does it take one.

588
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: I think at this point I throw it out at you, guys,

589
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: and you could take it however you know where you

590
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: want to take it. But I think he still needs

591
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: more more than one good season to solidify being at

592
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: least a first ballot Hall of Famer let alone, possibly

593
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 4: could miss being a Hall of Famer if he doesn't

594
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: have critical years in these last few years that he

595
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: has in the league as a starter.

596
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: Which is kind of crazy considering if you were to

597
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: say second to last year in Seattle. All Right, guys

598
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL that are you think are going to

599
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: be Hall of Famers. He would have been one that

600
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: I would have thought had been a Hall of Famer.

601
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 2: But the post Seattle era has been so up and

602
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: down and played out so poorly publicly that I do

603
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: wonder if now the perception of him has changed from

604
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: people around the league, because it feels I mean, even J. C.

605
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: Trettor was you know, throwing him under the bus, you know,

606
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: for not you know, not getting the contract that he

607
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: was looking for and all that. It just feels like

608
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: there's a well, when the discussion happens around Russell Wilson,

609
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: it's never positive anymore. And that was never the case

610
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: in Seattle until the end. Until the end, Yeah, well,

611
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: I felt like last year got positive. I mean, he

612
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: came in and gave Pittsburgh a spark on offense. I know,

613
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 2: the season didn't end the way they wanted it to,

614
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: and he probably wasn't playing his best towards the end,

615
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: but you know, you factor in the pickens, you know,

616
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: sometimes deciding he wants to be out.

617
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: There, maybe doesn't, I don't know. I mean there was

618
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: a compilation I saw in social media last season when

619
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: I was like, I could only imagine like, I was

620
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: fortunate enough to play with so many receivers that you know,

621
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: you knew when they were upset, you knew when they

622
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: wanted the ball, and maybe they weren't getting the ball

623
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: either because the defense was taking them away or they

624
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: weren't the number one read on a certain progression. You know,

625
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: there were sometimes guys where they're just having bad days

626
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: or they get too emotional about it, and you would

627
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: see that from time to time. But I never had

628
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: anyone who I felt like just wasn't going to participate

629
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: in the play. I mean there's times where I felt

630
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: like that watching him last year, So that played a

631
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: role as well. I just I had a former head

632
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: coach tell me one time, when you start moving around

633
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: to teams, He's like, it's really really hard to gain

634
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: traction again. And he told me this at this point

635
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: when I was a backup, and you know, really they

636
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: were offering me an opportunity to come back as a backup,

637
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: and I just I wanted to take a chance to

638
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: go see if I can compete to start, or be

639
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: in a situation where if I was a backup, I'd

640
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: have a better chance of playing. Like to me, I

641
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: hated holding a clipboard. I hated sitting in meeting rooms

642
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: and basically being an insurance agent. Like that's what you

643
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: are as a backup quarterback. You're the insurance policy where

644
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: you go in and all of a sudden you've got

645
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: to feel in the void like a starter, not getting

646
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: the preparation, not getting the practice as far as the

647
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: same as a starter. But that's the expectation. And I

648
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 3: was always like men of stinks, like I always needed reps.

649
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: You know, I was slow to learn how to read

650
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Speaker 3: when I was young. I was I was always kind

651
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: of slower to develop in that regard. So I was

652
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: always someone who wanted to have, you know, more, more

653
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: of an opportunity to play and to actually learn from experience.

654
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: And I think that's the tough art for Russell Wilson,

655
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: is you get to this point where you can't find traction.

656
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: How long did it take.

657
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how long it took. I'd have to

658
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: go back and talk to my mom, but I just remember,

659
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: you know, her needed to take extra time. He needed

660
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: to take a little extra time in school as well.

661
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: But again I digress, Yeah that was me.

662
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

663
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: But I think one of the things is when you

664
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: get to a point like you're saying, Jonas, what four

665
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: teams in five years? It gets hard to find traction

666
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: because everyone that's there around you hasn't experienced the success

667
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: you had in Seattle.

668
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: They don't know you as that credibility.

669
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: No, no, maybe think about think about this, Like think

670
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: about how long us three now have worked together. We

671
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: were together for years now, so we know when we

672
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: see each other at superl whatever, we like, we know

673
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: what to expect. We know like even if hey, one

674
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: of us goes out with Lee, you know, Lee's a

675
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: wild time. Like we know we're still we know we're

676
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: us three with Lee. We know us through gonna show

677
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: up and perform. Now, we don't know if Lee will

678
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: be there, but we know us we will show up

679
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: and performed. But like that's not the case now, Like

680
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: he's got to build that back up. You know, he's

681
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 3: only one Chili Cheese National Chili Cheese Dog Hot Dog

682
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: did away from you know, gassing up Chris Purfett, Who's

683
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to produce this show anymore.

684
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: Than that man could have shown up with chip teeth.

685
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 4: He could have been hit ran over by a mac truck.

686
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: I mean there were several different scenarios that could have

687
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: played out where I mean he didn't want to show

688
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: up to the one event because all of the cuts

689
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: and scrapes on on his face. I mean, it's just

690
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: it's bad Lee. It's a it's a it's a very

691
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: stressful time to wonder if we're going to roll with

692
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 4: Lee when it's a week long trip. That's that's it's

693
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: a great it's a great example, and in comparison, it's

694
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Speaker 4: a great comp.

695
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Speaker 8: And then I step up as the d H in

696
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Speaker 8: the on Friday when you guys were hurting, No.

697
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: We weren't hurting. We we were we I mean we

698
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 4: were tired. It was the end of the week.

699
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: You only didn't go out because you face planted.

700
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 8: That's why you didn't go out.

701
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: The next day. Yeah, but I'm saying you didn't go

702
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: out that night like we did.

703
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 4: Your nose.

704
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: That's why we were hurting so bad. On Friday. You

705
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: were on I R.

706
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: You're in your hotel, definitely, But we're a team, baby.

707
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: Basketball.

708
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: I was trying. I was feeding him drinks Thursday night before.

709
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 3: And he was not saying shocking that you had to try.

710
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: He was He was not saying, I'm just saying you

711
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: were bold enough to actually go on the journey into

712
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 4: you know, downtown, into to uh, what's the street called

713
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: Bourbon Street. Yeah, you guys, I just can't believe that

714
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 4: you would do it, Like, of all places to go

715
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: with Lee, where you knew it was the wrong place

716
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: where him would be, Bourbon Street would be tops on

717
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: that he was.

718
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: He had like a three hour head start. I said, yeah,

719
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: I'll go check it out. And the best part is

720
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: I called Brady and because you were like you just

721
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: like staying in the hotel, and I called Brady. He's like, all,

722
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: what do you think? And do you want to get dinner?

723
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: I was like, I kind of want to check out

724
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: Bourbon Street and Brad He's like, yeah, I'm definitely not

725
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: doing that. Like okay, oh well I've never been, so

726
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: I want to go check it out. And I get there.

727
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: By the way, Lee is in my defense, this is

728
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: also after a dude got killed. I'm pretty sure got

729
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 3: drugged and killed. Not saying that situation would play out

730
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: for me, but you know, it's not the safest place,

731
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: and it's like, I know we had one more night here.

732
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 3: You know why I put that a risk.

733
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we were safe in the hotel.

734
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: Lee, why would we leave a good time with Avar

735
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: to go find a good time?

736
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we have a good time, we make

737
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: the party. But Lee, apparently he has to have more,

738
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: he has to go.

739
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 8: And so I went and found that hand grenade.

740
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

741
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 8: I was on assignment. I was on assignment.

742
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: We did see our entire Fox crew. To Jonas, you

743
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: were like leaving at the worst possible time for your

744
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: professional career.

745
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was some dead man walking and that now

746
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: that you look back on it, Oh no, yeah, what.

747
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: So that's a great point. How you think about it? Well,

748
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: listen to lead the lap Is. You know, he's like

749
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: our trusty old ride. And if you're still driving your

750
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: trust the old ride, keep it looking sharp with Maco

751
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: from dense to faded paint. We've got you covered. Get

752
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: a free estimate today. Uh, oh, better get Maco. You

753
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: say it, rusty ass, right, trust the.

754
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 4: Old Oh don't you say it rusty ass?

755
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: Whole other world?

756
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: I mean that would have been more fitting. Uh.

757
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 2: Coming up next here though, on The Dan Patrick Show

758
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas

759
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: Knox filling in. We are going to find out the

760
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: very latest. Could we be on the verge of a

761
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: blockbuster trade in the NFL. We've got it for you

762
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: right here on FSR.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

764
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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

765
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio w APP.

766
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: It is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for

768
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Speaker 2: Dan and the guys coming up here and we'll call

769
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: it about twenty minutes from now. We are going to

770
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: have an interesting move made in the NFL in the

771
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 2: last twenty four hours and what it means moving forward.

772
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Speaker 2: That'll be yours here on FSR. But right now we

773
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: turn it over to the man himself, senior NFL reporter,

774
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: lead content strategist at the MMQB. You see him on Amazon,

775
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: NFL on Primes coverage during the year, and you can

776
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 2: get him on X at Albert Breer AB. What's happening,

777
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: Good Thursday morning to you.

778
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 9: What's up, guys. I can actually see you. I know

779
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 9: it's been get that all worked out like where we

780
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 9: get actually patted it through, right, but we're working forwards.

781
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: It doun like this is unfortunate though, Albert, Now we

782
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: don't get your your wife, you don't get your kids

783
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: as you you get into the van to head up

784
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: for a hockey tournament.

785
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 9: Though that's right, not in the four on the on

786
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 9: the front porch, where like I'm at risk for like

787
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 9: the bluetooth is picking up in the tahoe yeah.

788
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the or the dog in the background, or any

789
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: of the other many things that have tried to interrupt

790
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: our interview with you.

791
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 9: You have we have two dogs here now, so like

792
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 9: there's even more risk because it's just kind of puppy

793
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 9: and he's also an Aussie. Anybody who's had one of

794
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 9: those notes out loud, they are so uh yeah, Archie

795
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 9: might be making uh making a debut here. It's here

796
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 9: in the next few weeks.

797
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 3: Why did you get Why did you get an Aussie?

798
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 9: Because that's our first time get we we have an

799
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 9: Asti Alrea even getting another one because my wife likes

800
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 9: to breathe. It's easy answer and I'm not gonna win

801
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 9: this argument.

802
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: Is he after Archie Griffin? Was that the compromise?

803
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 9: That's right?

804
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go.

805
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: Figure figure that's what it was. How awesome, predictable.

806
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 9: Everybody's gonna think it's after Archie Manning, or if we

807
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 9: start calling him arch to be after arch Manning. So anyway,

808
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 9: that's the real life. Yeah, I will say this though,

809
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 9: we went from like this wasn't on my radar two

810
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 9: weeks ago. So now we have a puppy living here,

811
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 9: So it shows you how much control I have over

812
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 9: my own house.

813
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: Are you surprised Albert and obviously covering in covering the

814
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: team and being around the situation for as long as

815
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: you were up in the New England area. Are you

816
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: surprised to see Belichick pushback the way he did on

817
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: ESPN when Robert Kraft talked about the big risk he

818
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: took in hiring him.

819
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

820
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Speaker 9: The crazy thing about it is like the Craft said

821
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 9: this a million times, Like there's you could if you

822
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 9: google the keywords in there, I'm sure you could find

823
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 9: fifty times that Robert Craft has said this, and clearly

824
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 9: is something that that Bill's got a problem with. Like

825
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 9: wait a minute, Like you were the one that took

826
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 9: the risk, Like I came into a situation that was

827
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 9: Parston and had to rebuild it right, Like so clearly

828
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 9: he had a problem with it, and I I find it,

829
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 9: like I'm not sore guessing here or whatever, but I

830
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 9: find it hard to believe that Don van Natta was

831
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 9: listening to like the Dudes One Dudes podcasts and thought

832
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 9: to call Bill. So my guess is that Bill was

833
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 9: the one that prompted that conversation, which means that Bill

834
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 9: felt strongly enough to reach out to a reporter on it.

835
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 9: And Don Van Natta, of course, is the reporter who's

836
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 9: done some of the work on some of the discord

837
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 9: and the Patriots organization over the last twenty years, and

838
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 9: so picking that specific reporter to talk to I think

839
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 9: has context too. So you know, my main takeaway is

840
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 9: Bill's gonna a hair across ass about Robert and vice versa. Look,

841
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 9: is this becoming Jimmy Jerry Guys?

842
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: It has those types types of characteristics.

843
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: Oh that's a hot.

844
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's sort of problem like it doesn't it.

845
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: Is?

846
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 9: You accomplished so much together and you can't leave all

847
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 9: up alone, you know what I mean? Like, And it's

848
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 9: interesting too because the third figure all this is Tom Brady.

849
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 9: And you know what I think is really fascinating about

850
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 9: that If you look at how these things come about. Well,

851
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 9: Bill posts Tom, you know, makes the playoffs the one

852
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 9: and the team circle with the draining Robert pat post

853
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 9: Tom if with Bill for that, then hires girod Mao,

854
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 9: fires him after a year and has to fall in

855
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 9: the sort of thing he was wrong about a bunch

856
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 9: of things. And so now those two are going at it,

857
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 9: and you got Tom sitting back, and you know why

858
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 9: he doesn't have to say a thing is because he

859
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 9: went to Tampa, made the playoffs four years in a

860
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 9: row or three years in a row, and got a ring.

861
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 9: So you know, it's just interesting how kind of the

862
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 9: post scrip to the to the to the dynasty is

863
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 9: the one guy who had a ton of success right

864
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 9: after is the one who can just kind of sit

865
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 9: back and what the other two sights.

866
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: So this is why we talked about it a little

867
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: bit earlier, and I said that I don't have a

868
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: problem with Robert Craft saying it took a risk to

869
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: hire Bill Belichick. But if someone asks you what's your

870
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: biggest risk, I don't know that Bill Belichick was at

871
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: the top of the list. He had close to a

872
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: five hundred record as far as being a witch prior

873
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: to that, he was already hired by another team. So

874
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: clearly they were okay with that five hundred record, as

875
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: was Robert Craft. And yes they had to give up

876
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: a first round pick, but it's it's not as if

877
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: Robert Craft was necessarily great before that point in time

878
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: as an owner in drafting first round pick. So it

879
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: leads me to say, in your mind, was was this

880
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 3: the biggest risk really Robert Craft took? I mean Jonas

881
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: brought up ages of orchid orchids or.

882
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: As guys trying to blow some steam off for God's sake.

883
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I don't know.

884
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 9: Let's move that one to the side for a minute.

885
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, AB answer the question, ab any.

886
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 5: Question aside, honest honestly say flip over my gosh.

887
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 9: Don't give me in trouble here, Like I don't need to.

888
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 9: I don't need to be taking right now. Here's what

889
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 9: I like, Like I would say the bigger risks, like

890
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 9: I think the decision to do what he did with

891
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 9: Bill Parcells the very beginning, as much success as they

892
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 9: were having, like taking power away from Bill Parcells after

893
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 9: Bill Parcells had and I I mean I was a

894
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 9: kid then growing up in this region, and Bill Parcells

895
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 9: was like the messiah, like no one. That franchise was

896
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 9: a laughing stuck and Bill Parcells is the one who's

897
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 9: got it, who dragged it out of the ditch and

898
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 9: gave it credibility. So I think taking power away from

899
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 9: from Bill Parcells eventually driving them away was probably the

900
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 9: biggest risk that Robert kraft ever took at the time

901
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 9: when he hired Belichick. I mean, he's sort of in

902
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 9: this position where he's like, his reputation wasn't in a

903
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 9: great spot, so he didn't have as much to lose,

904
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 9: like when he did that with Parcels. He had a

905
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 9: lot of loose. When he made the decision to go

906
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 9: with Bill over Brady right in twenty twenty and the

907
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 9: year leading up to that, that was a massive risks.

908
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 9: He had ton to lose. So I tend to think,

909
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 9: like when you're assessing risks, a lot of like a

910
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 9: lot of what risk is is how much do you

911
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 9: have to lose? And I think in nineteen ninety six

912
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 9: and in two thy and twenty, Robert Krafty way more

913
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 9: to lose those decisions that he made versus you know

914
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 9: where he was in the year two thousands.

915
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: Listen, we're having the conversation as it applies to Robert

916
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 4: Kraft and ultimately the comparisons or the back and forth

917
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 4: between him and Belichick. How much does this put a

918
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 4: almost a target on on Mike Rabel coming in. Mike

919
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 4: was a part of these teams as well. And maybe

920
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 4: that's something that maybe Robert Kraft isn't thinking about, is

921
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: by doing these these having these conversations, I mean, you're

922
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: putting seemingly a whole lot of pressure on Mike Rabel

923
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: to have to do something with this team where they're

924
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 4: at right now.

925
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a weird spot to be in for sure.

926
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 9: Like I don't know, I mean, Mike would probably want

927
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 9: to stack me in the back of the head. I

928
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 9: feel like if you heard me say that, it's almost

929
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 9: like a kid with a divorced parents who are in court,

930
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. It's just because I mean,

931
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 9: Mike was a player here, you know, and you can't

932
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 9: take that context out of it. So like he's one

933
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 9: of these guys like an Edelman who had that interview

934
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 9: with Kraft and like so many guys that went through

935
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 9: the place that you know, like you're you're gonna be

936
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 9: asked about it, you know what I mean, Like and

937
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 9: at some point, like it's going to come up, and

938
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 9: it's it's a topic that hovers over things. That said,

939
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 9: I think if anybody's equipped to deal with it and

940
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 9: has the right kind of approach towards these things, and

941
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 9: be Mike Brabel, because I just don't think I think

942
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 9: Brabel is as the type of guy who can say

943
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 9: I don't give a damn about that, that's not my

944
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 9: problem and get away with it. You know, Like there

945
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 9: are a lot of people who say that you wouldn't

946
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 9: believe him, Like I think Mike can make that believable.

947
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 9: So like, I think in one sense, there's the former

948
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 9: player Mike right like, who like so many of these guys,

949
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 9: it's like two people that were so central to what

950
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 9: was going on when you were having your greatest professional

951
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 9: success are fighting and it's weird to be asked questions

952
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 9: about those two people while they're fighting. So that's the

953
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 9: former player Mike. But I think Mike right now would

954
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 9: be more focused on being the coach and you know,

955
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 9: having that single focus saying like that's not our problem

956
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 9: to his team, Like that's something I think that he's

957
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 9: an equal position to sell.

958
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's

959
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: two pros and a cup of Joe filling in for

960
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick and the guys. Is there the potential we

961
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: see any sort of crazy blockbuster trade take place with

962
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: these guys looking for extensions and not able to get

963
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: them done, whether it be Hendrickson, McLaurin, TJ. Watt, et cetera.

964
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 9: I just think it's too many in the case is

965
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 9: there's like too much mutual interest in getting something done.

966
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 9: Like with what the reason you the reason you acquire

967
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers in the first place is to serve TJ. Watt, right, Like,

968
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 9: is to serve the core that you had in place.

969
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 9: And so like what you're doing getting Aaron Rodgers and

970
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 9: leaning into the guys that we're already there and saying, okay,

971
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 9: we only have one or two swings luff with this group,

972
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 9: with your TJ. Watts If you're Cam Hayward, so like,

973
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 9: how would it make sense to go out and get

974
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers and get DK Metcalf and get Jalen Ramsey

975
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 9: and get Darius Play and then move off the best

976
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 9: player from the core that you're trying to serve and

977
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 9: if your TJ. Watt, is there a situation that you

978
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 9: can go to that would be better than the one

979
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 9: that you're already in or would you look at it

980
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 9: say this is what I've been waiting for since Ben

981
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 9: Roethlisberger retired, is having an answer Like visit the quarterback

982
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 9: position with McLaurin. It's like, I know Kerry values being

983
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 9: like a one team guy and being a guy who

984
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 9: wrote out Kagruden, Ron Rivera, the Saleo Team, the nickname change,

985
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 9: all that different stuff, and being kind of a belt

986
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 9: weather for the entire franchise. I know he really values that.

987
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 9: And for dan Quinn, like Harry represents everything they're looking for.

988
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 9: So I'd say like in most of these situations, you're

989
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 9: looking at it like there's too much usual interest in

990
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 9: getting something done and there's a lot of cage rattling

991
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 9: going on now, but when the deadlines come, you think

992
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 9: they're going to get something done. So Hendrickson thing is

993
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 9: the one that I look at, and it's a little

994
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 9: less predictable because that one's played out over multiple off seasons,

995
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 9: and that one there are just some moving parts as

996
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 9: to how you pay pass rushers, and then the structure

997
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 9: of deal. Does he do a deal like the structures

998
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 9: like the one Burrow and Chase it that he do

999
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 9: a deal and structured like the one that Higgins did.

1000
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 9: There are a lot of moving parts that the Henderson

1001
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 9: one and a lot of history there. They would say,

1002
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 9: there's no way he's taking any sort of hometown discount,

1003
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 9: and so where is the comper might come?

1004
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 3: That would be the question, Albert, I want to ask

1005
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: you about these second round draft picks. Two have signed

1006
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: fully guaranteed deals. There were thirty on signed. However, it

1007
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: looks like Alfred Collins has decided with the forty nine

1008
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: ers to sign a deal that is not fully guaranteed

1009
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: only about eighty percent, give or take a couple of questions.

1010
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: We don't have a ton of time left. Why now,

1011
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: Why has either the NFLPA or the agents who have

1012
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: been involved pushed for this to get these contracts fully guaranteed?

1013
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: And I guess furthermore, when you're looking at the Alfred

1014
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: Collins deal, I would assume you think the rest are

1015
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: probably going to fall suit. There's not gonna be a

1016
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: lot of guys getting fully guaranteed deals. Or is there

1017
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: a mark in the draft where they're going, like, hey,

1018
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 3: top fifty or you know those, all those guys will

1019
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: be fully guaranteed. But then after that probably not.

1020
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 9: I don't think. I don't have an infirm of me.

1021
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 9: I think Brady did, like he was, I think forty

1022
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 9: third overall, is that right?

1023
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1024
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 9: Correct, yeah, forty three. Okay. So the way this happened,

1025
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 9: so the Texans really wanted to get like a certain

1026
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 9: structure with their contracts and were and wanted to get

1027
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 9: it done early with Jayden Higgins. So they agreed to

1028
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 9: do the fully guaranteed deal. And then Higgins Higgins agrees

1029
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 9: to the Texans structure, and so they're able to get

1030
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 9: that done early, taken care of, fully guaranteed. Then the

1031
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 9: next day, the very next day, this is two months ago,

1032
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 9: Carson Schwussinger, who was a thirty third pick, Higgins was

1033
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 9: thirty four. He does the deal, so now he's got

1034
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 9: a fully guaranteed deal. So you have the top two

1035
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 9: guys having a fully guaranteed deal. The thirty fifth pick

1036
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 9: is Nick Emon Worrie, the South Carolina staty who went

1037
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 9: at Seattle and like he was widely projected by a

1038
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 9: lot of people to be at least a fringe first

1039
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 9: round pick. So he's got his head. Now he's people

1040
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 9: having an his head. Well, we need to get a

1041
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 9: fully guaranteed deal. So the thirty six pick is punched on Jenkins,

1042
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 9: who obviously is going through the offfield stuff now. But

1043
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 9: even before that, it was like, well, Nick, you just

1044
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 9: gave Carson Schwassinger three picks before me a fully guaranteed deal,

1045
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 9: so I need to get one. So now, if you're

1046
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 9: looking at this and you think at thirty five to

1047
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 9: thirty six, are pushing for it. If you're the agent

1048
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 9: for the thirty seventh picks, the thirty eight picks, the

1049
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 9: thirty nine picks, you're not going to do anything until

1050
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 9: that gets done. Then you have the fortieth pick, which

1051
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 9: is a quarterback. Right, the quarterbacks have always done deals

1052
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 9: with a little bit differently. So the shuck in New

1053
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 9: Orleans says he gets a fully guaranteed deal there at forty,

1054
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 9: because if he doesn't fully guaranteed deal at forty and

1055
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 9: you're thirty nine, thirty eight, thirty seven, it's going to

1056
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 9: make you look sad as an agent as a player

1057
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 9: if you don't get one. So this thing has been complicated,

1058
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 9: and I think it's going to sort of hinge on

1059
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 9: what happens with Eamon orri you know, then potentially what

1060
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 9: happens with Juckins. We'll see what happens with the Arizona

1061
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 9: Guards that when Jonas Sabaya who went thirty seventh overall,

1062
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 9: Travan Henderson thirty eight. Like I it's just I think

1063
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 9: it's going to have to almost have it would almost

1064
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 9: have to be in order, like there have to be

1065
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 9: a Domino's next, or the quarterback gets done earlier. It's

1066
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 9: it's complicated. I do think collins deal can help with

1067
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 9: players behind him, right, so after forty three, maybe that

1068
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 9: helps move the needle on guys that were drafted behind

1069
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 9: Alfred Collins, But as far as the guys that were

1070
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 9: drafted in front of him, I still think you're kind

1071
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 9: of at that salemate where you're waiting for either Seattle

1072
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 9: and Emon Wori or New Orleans and Tyler Stock to

1073
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 9: get something done.

1074
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist

1075
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: at the MMQB. You see his work on Amazon's NFL

1076
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: on prime coverage. You can get him on X at

1077
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 2: Albert Breer ab we appreciate it. Good luck with the puppy,

1078
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: and we'll talk next week, all right, Thank that.