1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Let's bring in Maryland Congressman and former House Majority Leader 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Standing Hoyer joining us from the Capitol. Sir, thank you 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. You're ready, I know, cast 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: your first vote under the new speaker. Tell me do 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: you think this is someone Democrats can work with. 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: I don't know Mike Johnson very well. 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: He's been elected speaker, he's relatively new and hasn't been 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: in the leadership before, so frankly, I don't know the 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 3: answer to that. But I think his speech today was 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: a speech that talked about working together to reach common ground. 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Yes, we'd have differences, and I thought that was good. 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: But as I told him, that is easy to say, 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: it's hard to do. And very frankly, his record over 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: his time in the Congress the United States has been 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: a very hard edged message that will not create bipartisanship. 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: But we'll see. 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: He said good things that I hope that he follows 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: through on those and if he does, as Leader Jefferies indicated, 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: he will get a positive response from Democrats. We want 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: to work together, and frankly, we did work together, and 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: we saw that we didn't allow the American to default 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: on its debts. We made an agreement on what funding 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: levels would be for the coming year, and we did 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 3: not shut down the government. All of those were over 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: three hundred votes on those and on Ukraine we've had 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: seven votes that had over three hundred votes. So we've 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: had a bipartisan, constructive coalition working together. And I hope 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: the new Speaker follows that trajectory and doesn't serve simply 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: the hard right on his party, as his record would 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: would fly. But I want to give him the benefit 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: of the doubt. I had a conversation with him. It 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: was very brief, but it was very positive, and we'll see. 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: Congress and a lot of folks have made points that 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: he doesn't have enough experience to have enough enemies to 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: block his path to the gavel. I don't know if 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: you agree with that, but did you have to google 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: Mike Johnson this morning? 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: I don't think I googled it, but my staff came 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: me a memo, honestly. But the fact of the matter is, yes, 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: he's new, and I think your point is absolutely correct. 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: He hadn't made enough enemies as obviously others had. After all, 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: the Republicans went through their speaker, their majority leader, and 43 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: their whip, their three highest officers and rejected all of them. 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: And that. 45 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Gives you somewhat of a sense of the challenge that 46 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: he faces on his side of the aisle. And it 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: took four different people to win the speakership, the first one, 48 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: the second one, we're hard right, and the third one 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: was more towards the center. And he lasted for four 50 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 3: hours before Donald Trump told his followers reject him, and 51 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: he dropped out. And then we came to Mike Johnson, who, 52 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: as you point out, nobody has a lot of record 53 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: on him. But the record that we do have is 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: he's very conservative, and therefore I think was obviously from 55 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: the Republicans standpoint, acceptable to the Freedom Caucus. Obviously they 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: all voted for him, but that gives some pause for 57 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: concern because they do not represent the American people and 58 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: do not represent the overwhelming majority of Americans who want 59 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: to see the Congress work together. 60 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: So many of their counts said, I don't want. 61 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: To work with Democrats, and I hope this new speaker, 62 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: Speaker Johnson, does want to work with people who will 63 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: work with him to achieve positive objectives for the American people. 64 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about some of those items that we're 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: going to need by Bartis support for to see this 66 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Congress get them through. The first will be the most 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: immediate November seventeenth, potential government shutdown. Now, Speaker Johnson came 68 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: out and he said he would potentially put on the 69 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: floor continuing resolution for January or April. What are you 70 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: hearing regarding that stopgap measure? 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: Well, what you just said. He sent out a letter. 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: He indicated that we would probably have to have or 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: that he would probably support a continuing resolution to keep 74 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: the government open. That's a positive step. Now, whether he 75 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: can deliver on that, we'll see. Unfortunately, he has voted 76 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: against most of the crs that have been on the 77 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: floor in the continuing resolutions keeping government funded in the past, 78 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: so it's not a very hopeful sign that he has 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: voted against those in the past. Hopefully he will understand 80 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: shutting down the government is a stupid thing to do. 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: We avoided it under a Speaker Karthy, but only with 82 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: the votes of a majority of Democrats and about twenty 83 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: less Republicans. But we did avoid it, and hopefully Speaker 84 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: Johnson will lead us to that same end. 85 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 5: It was an interesting moment last evening. 86 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: Congressman When Congressman Johnson became speaker nominee, he held a 87 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: very quick news briefing, if we can call it, that, 88 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: flanked by a large number of Republican members, and a 89 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: reporter tried to ask him about his attempt to overturn 90 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty election results. 91 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: That reporter was met with booze. 92 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: And was told to shut up by another Republican member. 93 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: This is something that was miss Fox. 94 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: That's going to be an issue, that's absolutely We're absolutely right, 95 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 4: Virginia Fox told her to shut up, and then she 96 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: was not allowed to ask another question. Is that going 97 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: to be the future here for this Republican Conference? Every 98 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 4: member of the Republican Conference voted for this individual, who 99 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: is an election denier. 100 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: Congressman, how do you work with that? 101 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: It's sad. It's sad that an election denier. It's sad 102 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: that Donald Trump charged with numerous crimes and now his 103 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: chief of staff apparently saying that they informed him that 104 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: what he was saying was wrong, and his pursuit of 105 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: that effort has led a lot of people into legal trouble, 106 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: including himself, and the new speaker was an election denier, 107 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: as you say, wrote an opinion that Chip Roy, a 108 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: member of the Freedom Caucus, former Deputy Attorney General assistant 109 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: Attorney General in the state of Texas, said was constitutionally wrong. 110 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: So that's an area of concern. But as I say, 111 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: he's new, he hasn't been in leadership. We'll have to 112 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: see what he does. We know what he said in 113 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: the past, we know what he's done in the past, 114 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: and if he goes down that route, that hard right route, 115 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: then I think he's in for a rough time and 116 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: we're not going to get to the by partisanship that 117 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: he talked about and that later Jeffries talked about. So 118 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: hopefully he now sees with the responsibility of running the 119 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: entire House, not just a faction of the House, seeks 120 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: out to come together and have agreements that can have 121 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: a positive result on our legislative record, positive result and 122 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: helping people in a positive result, and keeping the government 123 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: open and operating, and said I might add, and supporting 124 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: Ukraine as well as supporting Israel. 125 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Well you led me right there, Congressman. I want to 126 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: talk about both of those packages. Take a listen to 127 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: what Speaker Johnson had to say about. 128 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 6: Israel, our nation's greatest ally in the Middle East is 129 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 6: under attack. The first bill that I'm going to bring 130 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 6: to this floor in just a little while, we'll be 131 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 6: in support of our dear friend Israel, and we're overdue 132 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 6: and getting that done. 133 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Congressman, how is your colleagues and the Democratic Party Party 134 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: dealing with the Israeli skeptics on the progressive way? 135 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: Well, let me say, we only had I think ten 136 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: votes opposed to the bill, with four hundred plus members 137 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: of the House of Representatives voted for that. So the 138 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: overwhelming number of Democrats and Republicans voted for the resolution. 139 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: And I was smiling because he says that was going 140 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: to be the first bill that he would bring to 141 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: the floor. Frankly, that bill would have come to the 142 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: floor three weeks ago had it not been for the 143 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: internal division and divisiveness and dysfunction of the Republican Party 144 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: who couldn't select the leader. So that it's ironic that 145 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: he claims credit for that being the first. Of course, 146 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: it was the first because it was so important that 147 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: we pass it three weeks ago in support of our 148 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: strong ally Israel, who was invaded and a carnage was 149 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: committed and an active war by Hamas. That is a 150 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: terrorist organization. So yes, he brought it to the floor 151 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: because over four hundred members were for it and had 152 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 3: co sponsored it. So I'm glad he brought it to 153 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: the floor. Is the right thing to do. As I say, 154 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: it's never too late to do the right thing, and 155 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: he did the right thing, Amory. 156 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: I was just gonna add. 157 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: Amory asked me a direct question the overwhelming number of 158 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,479 Speaker 3: Democrats voted for this piece of legislation. 159 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: We always appreciate an answer. 160 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: Congressman, thank you for your time today and bringing the 161 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: Democratic point of view on a very important story. We 162 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: have a Speaker of the House after twenty two days 163 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: without