WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Scouting the Giants, Weak Points 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:06.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:14.520 Cowboys, Let's go. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.160 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:16.720 Yes? 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.560 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:19.360 Absolutely? 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.520 Ready for a break? 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:23.720 Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.920 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:34.880 right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker, and 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:36.080 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.600 It is Thursday, September seventh, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.839 episode number twenty six. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:45.200 The Break. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.040 We are live from. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.919 The SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star and today we're 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.559 going to get into more talk Cowboys versus Giants. That's 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.280 coming up Sunday night, Sunday Night Football. We'll talk about 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.480 the Giants defense today. I'm sorry, we talking about the 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:02.440 Giants offense today first Cowboys defense. Before we do that, though, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.640 got to get some updates on some injuries. We've got 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.440 three that we're keeping an eye on. One that actually 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.920 has some good news, not necessarily about the injury per se, 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.240 but just some personal news. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.279 It's for mister Donovan Wilson. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.520 Donovan Wilson, he's missing practice today for what Mike McCarthy 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.280 called a great personal reason. And as it turns out, 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:26.600 Donald is the latest Dallas cowboy to welcome a newborn 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:27.839 into his family. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.840 So that makes three since July. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.880 So it was Tony Pollard early in training camp, Cavante Turpin, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.720 and now Donovan Wilson. And McCarthy said, he told the guys, 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.479 if there's something something in the water, let me go right. 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.399 So yeah, that water away from me in my household. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.200 So congratulations, you might have just changed yourself. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.800 So Cannowledge bro done with that. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:50.880 God's plan. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.240 So Donovan Wilson, So no change in his status as 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.960 far as availability or potentially lack thereof against the giants. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:00.840 We still don't know any thing more than we did 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.880 yesterday other than he's doing work on the cords. But 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.200 he'll have a chance to do some more work tomorrow, 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.799 not a practice tomorrow, but do some work and then 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.240 the walkthrough on Saturday, which is I think really when 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.000 they'll make a determination on him. Some more positive news 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.320 on Tyler Smith, although he is not still not participating 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:23.320 in today's practice today being Thursday. Mike McCarthy basically affirmed 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.560 what I said on yesterday's show, what my plan would 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.720 be would be to sit out Tyler Smith all this week, 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.600 give him the walkthrough on Saturday, and then say hey 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.960 see Sunday night. Mike McCarthy this morning said that all 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.480 Tyler Smith needs to have a good shot at playing 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.320 on Sunday is to participate in the walkthrough on Saturday. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.560 So it looks like that bar is really low for 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:42.760 Tyler Smith, which is good. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:43.079 He said. 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.640 Tyler told him that he feels great. He's feeling good 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.200 with that hamstring strings, So really good chance that Tyler 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.880 Smith takes to fill. Sam Williams with the turf toe 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.960 still with the rehab group today on Thursday, but he 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.040 did more work today than he did on yesterday, so 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.520 I'm still I'm right there with broad Us on I'm 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.240 pessimistic on if Sam takes the field on Sunday, but 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.359 it does look like he's at least making some progress. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.600 So that's what's going on on the injury front. I 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.400 will say key to note Jordan Lewis was a full 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.639 participant in yesterday's practice, so as he returns from his 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.640 list frank injury which was actually worse than that, he 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.120 is practicing fully in his second week back from the 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.679 pup list. He says he feels good. I talked to 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.600 him in the locker room yesterday. I asked him straight up, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.920 I said, hey, are they ramping you up in practice? 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.680 And he said, quote unquote hell no, he said. Mike 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.840 told him, I want to throw you into the fire. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.360 So he said he was being lined up against Lamb 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.360 Cook's gallup yesterday, so expect more of that today. So 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.240 good look for Jordan Lewis going into Sunday's matchup against 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:45.600 the Giants. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.080 Yeah, it's going to come down to the wire. I 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.280 think on Tyler Smith, I think it's gonna I anticipaid 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.840 him being with Britt Brown all week until Saturday, and 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:54.640 then they're going to figure it out from there. I 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:59.200 don't and a doga. You know, we talked about veteran options. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.160 He seems like the guy that they would probably put 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.120 in there at left guard uh to to be, But 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.920 I would I would anticipate the next couple of days, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.080 they're really trying to figure out Tyler Smith's injury, and 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.800 so you know, Britt does a good job of, you know, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.200 getting those guys ready. You know, he could talk about 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.560 feeling great and feeling healthy and all that, but the 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.120 termination is going to come from that trainer and that 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.880 you know, if how that if he's ready to go, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.800 much like it is with Sam Williams as well, you know, 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.200 if he goes out there and works out and just 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.320 doesn't feel right or it doesn't look right or he 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.480 can't push off, they're not going to put a hurt 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.400 player out there. They just don't do that. So I 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.960 do think it's going to be close on uh on 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.600 Tyler Smith. And you know, again that's just talking some 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.440 folks in the organization. Yeah, just a. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.320 Little bit scary because sometimes when situations like that happen 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.680 where you're literally waiting down to the wire and let's 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.560 say this in this instance, what happens Saturday with him 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.400 and the walk through him, pregame warm ups and all that, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.279 it makes you wonder, too, is it better to just 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.120 given that it's the first week of the season, is 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.240 it better to just be super extra precautionary and take 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.600 precaution and just letting him rest for a whole week 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.800 in case he re injures himself or whatever. Because we're starting, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.880 we haven't played a single game yet, and you do 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.400 want him healthy all throughout the season. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.800 I think that's a good point. I mean, not that 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.640 I think it's a good point. It is a good point. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.600 What I would also add to that, though, is to 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.120 your point, as far as they'll work him out with 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.440 the Saturday walk through, you got the pregame, and then 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.560 they'll ask him how he feels after the pregame, and 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.600 then if he's a game time decision, that's how they'll 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.120 make that decision. But you know that precaution could also 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:50.040 be lending itself to them allowing him to start. If 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.120 Saturday's walk through looks good, pre game looks good, let 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.240 him start, and then after a couple of reps, you 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:56.520 pull them to the side and say, hey, how are 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.800 you feeling, and then you have that contingency plan. B 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.919 Ity Dogo or Bass whomever else brought Kaufman maybe some 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.440 awesome richards, But I think that's a measure as well, 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.120 because I do think you have to at least give, 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.159 if he feels good enough, give him the chance to 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.840 line up against this New York Giants defensive front because 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.839 you're going to need it. Knowing that while every game 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:20.040 is important, statistically speaking, this game is more important than 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.560 Week two against the New York Jets. So if you're 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.720 going to have to be without him. You'd rather be 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.440 against the Jets than against New York just by way 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.919 of the division race. Right, So if you're going to 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.719 be a little less than one hundred percent, yeah, you 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.960 want to defeat Aaron Rodgers, obviously, but you know, potentially 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.480 losing to the Jets is not as bad as losing 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.200 to the Giants, especially in week one when you have 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.080 all this hype coming into the season. 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.320 You know what, I disagree with you on that one 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.679 because I feel like, though there's always seventeen of these games, 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.520 you know, and so you know they always ask you 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.360 to like, is this a must win? Hell, they're all 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.719 must win. You only play seventeen of them. You know 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.040 this isn't Major League Baseball we play one hundred and 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.480 sixty two or NBA play eighty two. You know this 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.080 is you have to think about if if if if 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.880 there's questions about him potentially hurting himself. You know, I 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.280 get it. You've started adoga, he's practiced all week. Fine, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.400 if something happens, I wouldn't play him on the on 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.040 the hey, how do you feel? Bit? I would say, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.200 either you're gonna play this game or you're not gonna 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.760 play this game, you know. But yeah, I kind of 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.600 feel like though you know, I'm not playing with that. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.600 You know we're gonna rotate guys here that way. I'm 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.320 either I'm either going to go with the guy that 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.400 practiced all week or the guy like if if we 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.240 determine that Tyler Smith is healthy enough to go full 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.240 full game and not have any problems, then that's what 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.360 I'm gonna roll with. I'm more like with Ambar though. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.360 I know, to me, if if if my guy is 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.760 somewhat questionable or limited, it happens late in the year 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.920 where guys are really banged up and you get to 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.920 that point. But right now, if he's not healthy enough 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.080 to go and give me confidency and go the whole game. 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.520 I live that in a game at the Metlands before 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.160 with Amari Cooper going five plays against the Jets and 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.560 then not playing the rest of the game. So I'm 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.080 not going to do that again for sure. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.640 I think my point is is you're going to if 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.480 he feels good and Saturday walk through and he passes 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.280 the pregame physical and everything, then. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:15.880 He's good enough to go. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:16.760 He's good enough to go. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.560 Yeah, But with that being said, you're still playing a 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.800 guy that didn't practice all week anyway. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.000 So yeah, that's that's the thing that they you know, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.480 that's that's their rule. I mean, there used to be 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.840 a previous administration used to be here where if you 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.640 didn't practice, you really didn't play. You know. If that's 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.840 if that's Mike McCarthy's way of doing it, and that's 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.880 you know, okay, but determine that if he is good 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.320 enough that he is not going to get injured and 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.640 we're going to lose him for the Jets and two 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.320 or three other games down the road. I'm determined. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.040 If we're talking two or three games, then no, you 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:46.800 sit him for a week one. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.360 But well, that's what I'm saying. If you could get 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.199 into a game and all of a sudden strain turns 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.360 into a poll or something worse, then you know, I 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.680 think that to me, that's prevent I'm more with Ambar this. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.800 You've got a doga ready all week play and if 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.800 he's ready, I mean playing because he's practiced. But if 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.240 Tyler Smith is, if they determine on Saturday that it's 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.880 not that he's moving around and he can't and he's gonna. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.800 Be shut him down. Shut I'm there with that. Yeah, 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:12.240 I'm there with that. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.760 It's interesting you say that said they it's only seventeen games. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:18.120 Reminds me of what Parcels used to say, it's football season. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.559 In football season. Football players play football. There's not there's not, honestly. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.640 And then I think the players look at it like that, 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.360 like there's only seventeen. 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:27.720 Chances you get opportunities. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.600 Yeah, uh, And they want to be out which is 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:30.800 why Tyler wants to be out there. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.720 They want to be like, you don't want to bubble 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:37.040 wrap anybody, because that's the whole point of what you 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.079 work for the whole year. But at the same time, 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.240 you got to be precautionary. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.199 And you play the balance game. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.400 If he wants to go, if he's good to go, 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.440 at least good enough to go because football players play football, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.080 then he looks good. Pregame, you put him in and 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.040 then after you know the first offensive drivet, you do 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.160 pull him to the side and say, how are you 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.720 feeling any soreness, any tightness, And if he says no, okay, 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.160 then you playing the rest of this game. If he 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.839 says it's tightened up a little bit, okay, well now 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.079 it's the conversation that that's what I'm saying. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.400 Yeah, all right, let's let's move on real quick. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.280 I wanted to get to one bigger question around the 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.160 defense before we get into the actual assessment of the 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.080 defense versus the Giants offense. Looking back at last season, 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.079 they were I able to say probably among the top 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.199 you could say, probably realistic top seven to eight defenses 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.000 in the league. You might even say a little higher. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.840 But that being said, if there was one thing going 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.920 into this year that you'd say this, this defense needs 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.560 to be much better at this and it'll take them 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:36.480 to that next level. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.960 Cowboys the defense about to say the Giants don't turn 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.480 they don't get any turnover. No, yeah, I'm talking Yeah. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:43.960 If you're a Giants fan, you want them to turn 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:45.880 the ball, of which they're absolutely horrible. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.240 They're looking at the Cowboys defense as a whole, going 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.520 back to last season, what's that one thing you'd want 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:51.520 them to be better at. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.520 It's got to be run defense, and I think it, 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.160 but they were. It improved. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.400 It improved markedly. When you get the trade for Jonathan Hankins, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.959 it absolutely did. You also saw what happened when Jonathan 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.840 Hankins was out for a couple games with injury, it 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.120 kind of took a step down again, But I think 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.240 that can be boasted with the addition of Mazzie Smith. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.199 And I'm right there with Brian on you need to 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.959 unleash Mozzie as much as possible, let him get them rest. Agree, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.000 But I think that while it has improved with Jonathan 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.920 Hankins and theoretically should improve that much more so with 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.880 the Massie Smith. Until you see that run defense for 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.800 the Cowboys consistently week in week out for the majority, 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.640 if not the entirety of a season, quell any concerns 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.760 that you've had over the past several years. That's going 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.040 to continue to be kind of like the crutch of 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.480 the defense. They can take the ball away in the air, 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:40.960 they can take the ball away on the ground, they 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.360 can force fumbles, just that they can get interceptions. Their 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.200 pass rush is arguably one of, if not the best, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:47.720 in the league when you put it up against the 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.800 Eagles and the forty nine ers. So the weak spot, 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.720 if you're not talking about depth like linebacker, the weak 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.200 spot for me, albeit not a weak spot anymore, just 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.920 needs to consistency to prove to me that they can 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.600 stop the run on top of everything else, and once 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.720 they do away with that question mark, it's impenetrable defense 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:08.280 at that point. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.560 Stupid third down penalties, Stupid third down penalties. How many 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.080 times have we seen a third and twelve, third and eight, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.720 and all of a sudden, they get a great stop, 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.560 they get pressure, they get a sack, whatever. Then there's 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.080 a legal contact, there's a legal there's a hold, a 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:29.600 defensive hole, hands to the face, low unsportsmanlike penalty, low 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.559 into the quarterback's legs. You know you're getting off the 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:37.319 field on third down. Don't put your defense back in 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.400 harms way by an illegal contact penalty on the complete 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.200 opposite side of the field. If you're a safety, don't 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.840 hold the tight end when he's not a factor in 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:52.760 the play. Limit the stupid third down penalties that keep 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.040 you from getting off the field. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:55.920 Kevin Joseph is no longer here. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:13:03.880 So that's that's Sam Williams. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.880 Progress, you know, and it will Digs Diggs hold. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.760 Ye, I don't know that language that you're talking about, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.480 but no, there are a number of there are a 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.880 number of players I think you could probably point to 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.600 for some of those silly mistakes like they'll they'll throw 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.720 some of those at you in and and most that's. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.000 That is the one thing like this defense will do 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.400 a great job of getting you in a bad position, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.559 and then they will they will choke you off to 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.680 get off the field. But then all of a sudden, 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.800 it's a it's a holding penalty, hands to the face, uh, 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.080 illegal contest. Yeah, And all of a sudden, now you 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.960 get back on the field and it's you. Then they 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.120 the team finds a way to get a little rhythm 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.120 and they're kicking a field gold or it's a touchdown, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.959 and you know they're running another putting another twelve thirteen 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.040 plays on your defense because you had an opportunity to 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.720 get off the field and you didn't get off. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.000 And now you've gone from possibly winning the tunnel position 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.520 to that point and now you're suddenly losing town possessions. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.800 So these offenses will wear you down in the NFL, 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.520 they will, and it takes a toll on you playing 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.160 these games, especially early in the year. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.920 Yeah, especially, I'm trying to come up with something other 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.559 than what you guys said, and I'm having a hard time. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.480 But the only other thing that comes to mind, and 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.880 this is not an area that needs to be improved. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.960 It's just an area that I see. They still have 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.080 a lot more potential to be better at our takeaways. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.800 Even though last year they got a little bit over 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:35.120 thirty plus takeaways, there's still so many instances when they 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.800 get so close to the ball and their hands even 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.040 I saw that happening at training camp so much, and 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.040 they're just right there and they could just take it 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.960 to another level. I think that it's just a potential 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.720 is there and they could be even better. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.720 I think I think you make a really good point 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.400 because to me, look what happened in the San Francisco 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.040 playoff game. The ball that maybe Digs didn't see it 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.960 got knocked through traffic, and you know he's got his 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.840 hands on it, and you're thinking, man, Bro, you've got 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.960 you know, you intercept eleven twelve balls and your ball 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.200 skills are some of the best in the league. You know, 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.720 you get that interception that that's drive over. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:14.880 Right, I'm sure that haunted him. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.320 Yeah, and you know that that's just drive over or 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.200 ball on the ground. It's the you know they tomahawk 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.120 the ball in the in the pocket, it's on the 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.520 ground and some lineman falls on it being opportunistic. I 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.720 think man luck I said that word because I was 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.400 not too sure about it. But but that's that's where 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.280 I think that you. I think that's where you know, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.920 you talk about the improvement in turnovers if you have 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.240 a chance to get four or five extra being in 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:45.960 the right place, right time, or just awareness or finish. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:47.160 You know, those are things. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.320 It's not that they've been bad, but they're just so. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.400 But but the number can be even higher. Yeah, the 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.920 number two at the league, haven't they the last two years? 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.680 Yeah, I mean they've been good. They could have really opportunities. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.680 I'll add one to to that point, in addition to 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.120 the takeaways, Let's see if we can get you know, 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.360 one or two, maybe even three more defensive touchdowns help 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.800 help your offense out that way, while your offense is 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.920 trying to, you know, find its groove with McCarthy is 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.760 to play caller and Shantenhaimer is the whole. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:21.640 See, you're taking it a whole where Also whether that's 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.080 where I wanted to go. I wanted to be a 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:23.600 whole nother not. 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.280 Because we talked about yesterday, difference between being a great 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.200 defense and special defense. I want them to be a 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.960 special defense, and you know, that's what I'm demanding. 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.360 That reminds me of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers the year 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.000 that they won the Super Bowl. The year before that, 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.840 they had a really good defense, and I think it 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.680 was Gruden that came in there as the head coach 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.480 and what he told the defensive leaders was, I want 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:43.960 this is what the reports say or some of the 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.920 players have talked about it. He is like, you guys 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.040 got to go from just being a great defense to 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.120 being special, and to be special what you gotta do 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.280 to score. And that defense that year, if you remember back, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:58.640 was special because Ronnie Barber, those guys whenever they got 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.800 a chance, they were taking not only when they getting 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.560 the ball, they're getting the ball and taking it back 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:03.360 and they're scoring. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.720 And that's what made them such a special defense. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.600 Well that's how they won the NFC Championship. It was 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.200 Rondee Harber scoring on a you know, put the game 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.240 away for him at the end. So yeah, that's one 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:13.800 way to do it. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.280 Yeah, I will say real quick too. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.600 Also, I think one of the things that sticks out 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.880 to me for this defense is I think they got 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.639 to win on some of the early downs. They have 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.439 to have the mentality we're going to earn the right 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.800 to rush the passer because I think offense is opposing. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.800 Offense is going to come into every game saying we're 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.600 going to try everything in us to not put ourselves 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.400 in a situation where they can pass rush because their 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.600 pass rush is Cowboys pass rush is special and and 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.640 so I think they're gonna have to be very focused. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.720 It's it's about stopping the run, but it really is more, 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.600 in my opinion, about not just stopping the run, but 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.480 winning first and second downs and forcing teams those third 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.040 and long situations that will give them the opportunity of 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.400 the internal loose their their superpower, which is getting after 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.560 the passer, and that's going to get the turnovers because 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.280 you get to the quarterback, you got you know, fumble sacks, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.159 You've got situations where they're trying to get the all 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.680 out quick and you got a dB that that jumps 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.800 a route and gets a pick. I think that's where 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.520 you really can become special. So if they can win 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.320 on first and second downs, I think that'll be huge. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.719 I think that comes to what you're talking about as 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.480 well with with tackling. You know, when you when you're 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.320 an elite defense, you have elite tackling. Like like we've 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.040 seen teams are really good defenses that all of a sudden, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.840 ball is out. It's a completion, but it's a three 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.280 yard game because it's tackled right there, or it's a 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.560 four yard game because it's tackled right there. There's not 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.040 you know, maybe early in the season you the tackling 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.680 is not as good because you haven't you're not as 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.040 used to it. I mean, you know the preseason games 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.480 and all that fine, But to keep an eye on 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.120 when you're watching these games, how many mistackles there are 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.280 in these games. It may be lead to big plays. 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.480 That's the thing that kills uh, these defenses is these 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.080 chunk big plays. You know that they give up. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.360 We're gonna that the Cowboys are hoping to take advantage 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.840 of against opposition with Dull and Tony Poller, you know, 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:55.440 Brandon Cooks, these guys in space out. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:57.640 We're going to take our first break, will come back. 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.000 We'll get into our scouts notebook. 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Rally Days presented by seat Geek, 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.760 give all NFL fans and experience of a lifetime the 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.600 day prior to the Dallas Cowboys home games on September sixteenth. 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:22.080 Enjoy activities at Miller Lighthouse, get it behind the scenes 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.639 tour of at and T Stadium and more. Visit at 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.880 and T Stadium dot com Slash Rally Days for more 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:31.440 information and to get your tickets to day. 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.200 Welcome back second segment of The Break Live from the 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.920 SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:39.240 I just looked up. 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.480 And saw there's Darren Waller on Good Morning Football. Cal 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.680 was going to get a good look at him this weekend. Yeah, 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.520 that's going to be an interesting one in Brian, as 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.080 we get ready to jump into this conversation now. By 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:50.640 by the way, real quick, I do need to say 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.920 this segment's brought to you by Blockchain dot Com. 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:55.399 All right, cool, So Brian, here we go. 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.520 Let's talk about the Dallas defense versus the new York 0:21:58.560 --> 0:21:59.440 Giant offense. 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:05.160 Yeah, it's an offense that has really remade itself with additions, 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.800 and you know they were able to get in the playoffs. 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:09.600 A lot of it had to do with I felt 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.960 like the coach came in from week one. If you 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.399 Brian Diebol the coach there. Week one, they go for 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.919 the victory in Tennessee. It kind of set the tone 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.960 for the whole season for them, and especially with what 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.000 they're able to do offensively. Came in he limited the 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:27.480 number of turnovers that Daniel Jones has. That's really where 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.800 this team is going to focus on, trying to do 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.439 things to keep him on schedule, keep him ahead of 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:37.480 the chains. He's an outstanding athlete. He's going to run. 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.480 He is going to in the pocket. If you things 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.119 break down, he's going to take off running on you, 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.920 So you have to be careful about that. He's very 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.240 confident in the ways playing. They like to move the 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.399 pocket with him. They liked him to throw on the 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.680 on the move more than they do actually throw within 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:59.200 the pocket. But the additions that they've made though Isaiah Hodges, 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.320 when you look at Paris Campbell as well, and then 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.719 the addition of Jalen Hyatt, the rookie from Tennessee. What 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.479 they're gonna do is that their starters are likely going 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:14.560 to be Hodges Slayton Campbell, and then with Shepherd and 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:19.119 Hyatt also getting opportunities. Wandel Robinson's a little nicked up 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.600 right now. The slot player for them is going to 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.840 be Paris Campbell is who that's gonna be. Hyatt's their 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.439 vertical player. He's the downfield threat you have to worry about. 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.520 But the other guys will all be involved. Hyatt was 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.159 a guy thought initially would be a starter, and but 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.960 no he's not not the first time around, It's gonna 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.600 be Hodges Slayton Campbell again working Paris Campbell out of 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.520 the slot. Also work in Paris Campbell. Much like what 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.400 they do, you know with with Turpin, You're gonna see, 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:50.440 you know, maybe him in the backfield, Uh, maybe him 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.080 getting those reverses. They're gonna you know, they're gonna try 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.199 a lot of misdirection stuff on you, so you have 0:23:56.280 --> 0:24:00.880 to be very mindful of that. Uh you mentioned Darren Waller. 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.680 The Giants have have had a history of outstanding tight ends. 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.199 You know. It's it's a shame, not a shame. But 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.280 Evan Ingram, it's funny how he goes from the Giants 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.080 to Jacksonville and he's a totally different player. Well, here 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.560 they add Darren Waller to the mix. And Darren Waller 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.840 is a big body guy. You look at him on 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.199 the field, he's physical, he's tough down the field, he 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:27.159 can extend, he's an athlete. How you take care of 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:31.520 him will be a big part of this game, will you. 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:33.240 You know, if you put a smaller guy on him, 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:34.800 if you think you could put a corner on him, 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.200 it's not going to work. He's just too big. I 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.399 think that maybe the matchup here will be curse uh 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.399 and and that and the fact because you got to 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.240 go with you got to go with length on length 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.080 here and you've got to go with a physical player 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:50.120 against a physical player. So Darren Waller, you know, there's 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:52.919 gonna be a lot of boots, the waggles outside the 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:57.439 pocket throws. Waller is there is his is. Daniel Jones 0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.800 is like, you know, throw him the ball like much 0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:02.800 like Dak and Dalton Schultz that kind of that. Okay, 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.680 it's second third down, I'm gonna throw the ball to him. 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:07.680 He's gonna get seven yards and then he's gonna get 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.400 out of balance or he's gonna get down. He's gonna 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.880 get me a first down. But Waller's that that kind 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.880 of player for them. Barkley running the football. We all 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.879 know about Sakuon Barkley. He's you know, he's his career 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.560 against the Cowboys has not been great. He's you know, 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.200 he's struggled through injuries a lot of times. He's got 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.919 hurt during games. But yeah, they're going to try and 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.000 get him the ball. He could run it inside, he 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.119 could run it outside. They like to throw the ball 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.120 to him, So you got to get ready for the screens. Anything, 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.320 you know, anything can try and control pass rush that 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.840 they're gonna do. They could use Sakuon Barkley just to 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.520 flip him the ball, let him you try to tackle 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.080 him in space, which could be a big, big problem 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.159 for you. On the offensive line, they're playing kind of 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.120 roulette right now. At left guard. They don't know who 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:56.640 they're left. Their starter is left guard. Brettison and Glewinsky 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.800 are the two guards primarily, but they they rotate a 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.680 lot of different guys. They have a rookie center that's 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.760 a very good athlete, and he's good at handling some 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.960 one on one blocks, but he does have trouble with 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.679 power a little bit. And he's people have got have 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.240 been able to there was when you watched him at 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.600 Minnesota inversity of Minnesota. Uh, he was able to kind 0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.399 of like reach when they say reach is like go 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.879 to uh uh you know if a player is wide 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.240 on him to get his body in position where he 0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.480 could turn back. He hasn't had as much sustain as 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.120 he has in college, and maybe these NFL tackles are 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.679 giving him a little bit of a problem. So keeping 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:36.320 keep in mind what's going on inside Roulette at guard 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.720 and then a little bit of a rookie center that's 0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:42.080 problem with his sustain. So maybe the Cowboys can win 0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.320 some of those battles. Inside. You clearly want to attack 0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.760 Evan Neil the right tackle, and this is where I 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:53.560 think that this is where uh, DeMarcus Lawrence has had 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.560 some good when he's able to break down guys. Evan 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.600 Neil is a guy that he could break down. He's 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:00.639 a little bit of a slower guy. And Andrew Thomas 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.640 on the other side, it's one of the best right 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.840 one of the best left tackles. In the league. When 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.600 you start talking about that guy out there in San 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.520 Francisco and others, Andrew Thomas's name will get thrown into 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.640 this mix right here. So they've added some players throughout 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:17.080 just because they've added some skill with guys like I say, 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.919 uh Hodges and then and then Campbell and Hyatt, and 0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.720 then they've also added Waller. With the main stays that 0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:26.879 they've had, they've tried to upgrade the offensive line a 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:28.679 little bit, but there's some areas that you could definitely 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:29.280 attack there. 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:33.680 What I love about that scout and report is all 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.720 of it, but two things, primarily when you talk about 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.120 Jalen Hyatt and his speed and ability to go deep, 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.560 him not being pegged as a starter just yet right 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.960 it's that's going to be huge because I already believe 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.040 that the Cowboys have the personnel to, you know, likely 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.480 delete Jalen Hyatt, particularly as a rookie. He has that 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.760 going on as well. But I love a matchup with Hodgens, 0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.320 Slayton Campbell. If that's going to be your top three 0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.040 out there, including your slot you're talking about Gilmore, Digs, 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.800 Bland and Jordan Lewis in rotation. Give me the Cowboys 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.679 in that matchup all day long. You gotta love that 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.800 if you're the Cowboys. And then going to Brian's scunner 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.359 report on the defensive or the offensive line, the fact 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.639 that Glewinsky has strength issues and he's going to be 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:19.840 going up against guys like Jonathan Hankins, Mozzi Smith, Chauncey Ghost, 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.359 and Neville Gallamore. You gotta love that matchup for the Cowboys. 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.480 And then as Brian can a test and anyone who 0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.080 watches football can of test, your offensive line is really 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.360 going to be only as good as the interior. Once 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.800 that interior gets blown up, doesn't matter how good your 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:37.000 tackles are. So Evan Neil, yes, he typically gets handled, 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.320 no other way to put it. By DeMarcus Lawrence. I 0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.680 believe that's going to happen. But you got young guys 0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.959 who are struggling to kind of hold their anchor inside, 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.400 hold their hands. Jonathan Hankins con feast, Mozzi Smith can feast, 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.560 and you can get pressure on Daniel Jones, which is 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.720 going to help disrupt whatever plays you have for sakuon Barkley, 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:57.400 which then puts the game on Daniel Jones, who, as 0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.640 we said yesterday in lab coat. He just doesn't do 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.440 well under durest. Yes, he can escape, but I also 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.160 went to dig up a little bit, how does Daniel 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.240 Jones perform against dan Quinn when he has to escape 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.240 and he starts to use his legs. Well, fifteen attempts 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.280 in his three games versus dan quinn defense, he's averaging 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.640 only thirty four yards per game on the ground. None 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.000 of those are wins, and he has no rushing touchdowns. 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.320 So blow up the interior of that defense. And then 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.880 you got to love the matchup on the outside receiver 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.200 versus cornerbacks for the Cowboys, and the game just looks 0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.560 more and more like it's leaning leaning towards Dallas. 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.520 Yeah, when you look at this offensive line, it's interesting 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.240 because Brian, as you're mentioning, you know, basically it's the 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.600 right side that's from the center to the right, like 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.160 that's where the vulnerability is. 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:41.960 It's not just one. 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:43.920 It's kind of like you mentioned all three of those names. 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.040 You mentioned the center, you mentioned, the right guard, you mentioned, 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.920 the right tackle. And when you're playing a defensive front 0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.000 like the Cowboys, that certainly I think should present some 0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.480 opportunities for them if you've got an entire side of 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.320 your offensive line where there are some questions. Now again 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.520 all these are question marks. You never know how much 0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.560 of guy has developed and gotten better since the last 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.160 time you saw him on an NFL filled on a 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:05.080 regular season game. 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.680 But all that being said, right now. 0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.760 It does look like it's it would be something that 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:10.880 could be exploited by the Gay. 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.240 Yeah. They The thing the Giants are trying to do 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.760 is and a thing you need to like I mentioned 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.720 with Daniel Jones, is they're trying to get the ball 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.040 out faster because they realize that they have the problems 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.240 with you know. So there's there's a lot of there's 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.480 gonna be a lot of movement to this. This this 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.840 they're going to try and confuse you a little bit too. 0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.840 The motions, the slot motions, the deep overs, the post things. 0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:35.880 They're going to try and run you down the field. 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.320 And like I say, Paris Campbell is one of those 0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.400 guys that he's really big run after catch guy. So 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:43.840 they're going to try and get him the ball. And 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.000 that's like I said, I'm thinking that maybe they're going 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.640 to try and use him like they use like they 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.520 use Turpid, where they put him in the backfield and 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.959 maybe you'll see him with in the backfield. With they 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.600 send Barkley one way and then here comes Campbell back 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.719 the other you know, get you to kind of commit 0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.520 and then run the ball, you know, back the other way. 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.800 So they're going to do everything in their in their 0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.920 power not to expose their offensive line. 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.160 Who's the most dangerous of those wide receivers. You got 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.480 Hodgens and Campbell and Slayton. 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.760 I think it's Campbell. Well, okay, you know with Hyatt, 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.520 it's the vertical game, right, so if you know, all 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.440 of a sudden, it's a we're gonna max protect this 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.320 thing and then take a shot, you know. I mean 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:27.800 there's either catch, interference or incomplete you know, that's kind 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.000 of where things were, and especially if you're in a 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.520 situation I do worry about with with with Hyatt just 0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.280 because of his speed. But if you watch them as players, 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.960 Campbell is the one that they they they like. I said, 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.040 they want to use him in various roles where it's 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:44.880 get him the ball and let him run, you know, 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:46.080 let him play in space. 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:47.440 Does match up there? 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.440 That's the thing with Bland. You know. The thing with 0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.959 Bland is he's so physical inside, you know, and Bland 0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.000 is not afraid when they run him through things. He's 0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:02.040 able to navigate. So Bland's a good tackler too. So 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:04.320 if Campbell gets the ball, that's what's going to be. 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.280 It's like ball to him. They're going to try and 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.960 run him, ball to him, tackle him right there. Don't 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:12.320 let a four yard game be a twenty six yard game. Yeah, 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.040 let it, you know, so I would say that Bland, 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.080 you know, but he planned. I don't know about you guys. 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.480 I felt like Blam had a really quiet camp this year. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.960 And I don't know if it was because they were 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.880 trying to have Joseph play somewhat slot that they were 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.360 trying to get a look there and they put they 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.760 put Bland on the outside to kind of so maybe 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.680 he wasn't always totally involved in everything. 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:36.600 Let me just clarify. 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.760 When you say a quiet camp, are you meaning he 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.240 wasn't really making plays or you mean he was getting 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:41.760 beat No? 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.760 No, no quiet, just he wasn't the plays. You know, 0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.880 usually with him, it's like knockdown pass, right down pass. 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:49.440 You know, there were guys out there that you were 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.640 seeing in practice that were knocking you know that. But 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.120 the thing about. Like I said, I love Bland. I 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.560 think there's a lot of guys out on the West coast. 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.200 He goes to Fresno, and there's a lot of those 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.160 Pac twelve coaches that are going, why did we what 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.680 do we? How do we miss this guy? Yeah, you know, 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:03.360 I mean the way he plays and all that. 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.880 I think he had a he still had a solid 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.480 camp with It wasn't like flashy, yeah you know, it wasn't. 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.719 He wasn't making headlines or anything, but he was pretty solid. 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.720 I think, Yeah, I do. Like I said, I do 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.720 believe it's because of where they played him. I think 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.480 on the outside where he plays. When he plays inside, 0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.400 usually that's where the ball. You know, the offense is 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.720 focused on getting the ball to their slot a lot 0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.080 because it's just you have the whole field to cover, 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.040 and he can clearly cover the whole field. 0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:30.800 I think it was a combination of what both of 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:34.200 you guys were saying. Number One, he it wasn't as flashy, 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.200 but you could say that contextually because it was Trevon 0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.520 Diggs's camp as far as the cornerback is concerned, and 0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.000 Stefan Gilmore's camp as far as the cornerback is concerning 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.120 that's where all eyes typically were Stefan or was Treyvon? 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:46.320 Where's Tree? Where's Steffan? 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.040 But and and to you know Brian's point, because they 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:51.760 were trying to get the Cowboys were trying to get 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.200 Kelvin Joseph so many reps in the slot. You did 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.040 see Deron Bland doing a lot of outside work, so 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.160 there was a little bit of a curve there for 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.720 him to adjust playing on the outside. But he made 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.840 his fair share of plays as well, pass break up 0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:08.440 as couple of interceptions. So definitely, you know, looking to 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.719 take that next step. I've seen that he's ready to 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.279 take the next step and he's going to fall back 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.200 into the nickel road now you know now that we're 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.279 into the regular season and that's where he thrives, and 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.000 that's what he thrived last year and led the team 0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.439 in interceptions. So he can definitely, and like Bryan satt 0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.960 in one agree, he is arguably the most physical cornerback 0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:28.480 that you have on the team right now. I mean 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.600 he loves he doesn't it's just not he It's just 0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.319 not Deron not shine away from contact at the line 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.279 of scrimmage. He wants to put his hands on that 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.680 receiver disrupt the route at the line of scrimmage. So 0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:41.960 if you can disrupt, you know, a guy like Campbell's 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.480 route right, mess up his timing, that's goal number one, 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:47.880 goal number two. If you fail on goal number one, 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.520 like he said, delete the yak. If you delete the yak, 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.839 you more or less started to neutralize one of their 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.000 bigger playmakers after the kid' you see how. 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.160 Lewis fits in the game plan this way too, you know, 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.600 because if things if you know things, sir, you know 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.319 that's the great thing. If something goes where you have 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.359 to where it's an injury or somebody's not playing well, 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.400 a couple of snaps, you you can put Lewis in 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.560 the game and kind of work around that in the slot. 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.520 And Giants made unfortunate too that if they're gonna bring 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.600 all four of those receivers on the field and get 0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:15.480 into a dime type. 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.080 Of situation, maybe it creates that opportunity. 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.760 And I'll tell you what I talked to Jordan yesterday 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.440 in the locker room, and like I said, he not 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.319 only said they're throwing him into the fire, which were 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.000 his words I asked him, I said, is there any soreness. 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.320 How do you feel physically and he was like, no soreness. 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:28.759 I feel great. I said, okay, so how do you 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.960 feel mentally? Because he said a couple of weeks ago, 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.319 it's about feeling football again. I said, now you're lining 0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.239 up against guys and these are the best guys in 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.000 the league. Cooks lamb and he said, the muscle memory 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.680 is starting to come back, the confidence is quickly regaining itself. 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.680 And hear that dog is starting to return. And I said, 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:47.759 so the trash talking and he was like, oh, it's 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.560 it's back. Okay, Joey Lewis is talking trash again, ladies 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.520 and gentlemen. So yeah, that's good sign. 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.200 All right, we're gonna take our final break. We will 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.040 come back. I got a question for these guys. 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I 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:51.719 just you know, we hear okay, okay, so good alcohol 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:52.400 is not good for you. 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:52.960 It's not. 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:59.200 It's not until it is especially shaggy. It wasn't mean 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:02.600 it all right. 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.040 I did have something to say though. When you were 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:10.160 talking about the pass rushers for the Cowboys going up 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.879 against them, something came to mind. And the early mention 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:19.400 of penalties and getting flags and all that, I started thinking, like, man, 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.160 I think I do think this is a game where 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.720 the pass rushers can be pretty successful going up against 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:31.880 the Giants. But it came to mind, can this be 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:36.359 a game where now they start getting penalties because they're 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.600 going going back to training? Cam Let me just pick 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.920 in the picture. You know you can't freaking tackle Dac. 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:46.920 You can't hit the quarterback or anything, so you're restraining yourself. 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.480 You get into the first week of the season. These 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:53.280 are very talented guys that we have on defense rushing 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.719 the pass right now, They're going full out, going out, 0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.080 going at it with all their power. And now with 0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.600 the NFL rules, every time like, oh, gotta don't even 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.920 look at the quarterback too much because that's a flag 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:10.040 right there. So you just, I don't know, maybe it's 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.120 just me that I'm painting this whole picture of like 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.880 our guys just freaking attacking them and then a ref 0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:20.280 just throwing a flag every time because you hurt touched 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:21.759 the quarterback a little bit. 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.080 Well, you just gotta know how to maintain yourself discipline, 0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.200 know how to you know, play through the play without 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.360 giving that extra that puts you in position where you 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.200 can be targeted by the by the officials and getting 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.400 those flags thrown. So yeah, I mean, these guys are 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.680 ready to go out here and really hit and really 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:40.800 knock some guys around. 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:42.200 But it's been a while. 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.200 It's been a while, but I will say, I mean 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.960 when you talk about guys like Michael Parsons, de Marcus Lawrence, 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.760 I mean these are not guys that are typically penalized heavily. 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.840 So when you look at it from that aspect, I 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.480 know Sam Williams is trying to, you know, kind of 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.680 rein that in. But outside of Sam Williams working to 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:59.800 ring that in, the Cowboys pass rush isn't notorious for 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.239 getting those roughing the passer penalties and those unsportsmen like that. 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.040 But even like mike'll last I think it might have 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.960 been last year maybe, I mean, but I remember knowing 0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.160 there's always like some are there have been those situations 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.200 where he's like, are you freaking kidding me? And he 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.759 still gets a fun but it's these are veteran guys. 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.360 I get it, and you know they know what to 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.000 do and how to do it and all that, but 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.320 still those are some things that sometimes are out of 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:26.840 your country. 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.359 The official this week in the game is Adrian Hill, 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:31.960 and I need to go and look at Adrian Hill's 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.160 background as far as what we saw last year with 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.440 well he does he protect quarterbacks? Does he let the 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.000 game go? Does his team? Does his crew call a 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.279 lot of roughing penalties? Do they call holding penalties and 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.719 stuff like that? I need to figure that out. But uh, 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.279 like I said, it's it's it's a different official from 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:53.200 what you think for a nationally televised game, usually you'll 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.400 catch a Sean Hockley or somebody like that. But Adrian 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:58.600 Hill is going to get an opportunity to and so 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.239 we need to study him and maybe Friday tomorrow I'll 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.040 have a better idea where that penalty group will go 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:05.280 with that this crew. 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.560 Real quick before we end the show. This is one 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.000 question I want to throw to you. Guys. 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.359 We asked a similar question yesterday. Why had you rank 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.480 offensive players from least to most important for this week's win. 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.480 I want to do the same thing for the defense, 0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.279 and I have four players I'm gonna throw to you. 0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.120 I did not purposefully include Michael Parsons, yeah, because I 0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.520 think that would easily be the top player for all 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.640 of us. But going from least to most integral to 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.960 the Cowboys defense being successful this weekend, rank these four 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:37.920 DeMarcus Lawrence, Jonathan Hankins, Leyton Vander ash Stefan Gilmore. 0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.160 I'm going to go with. Let me make sure I 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:43.719 got it right. 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:52.359 So Lawrence Hankins and LV Gilmore Gilmore, that's a good one. 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.600 Let me get lv E as as my top I'm 0:42:55.640 --> 0:43:05.719 gonna go l V E. Hankins, God you're good at this, 0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:11.920 l V. E. Hankins, and let's say tanking then Gilmore 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.879 reasoning being LV, when you talk about trying to stop 0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.200 Sakuon Barkley, you better have linebackers that can cover. 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.760 Sideline, the sideline, that bottom line period. 0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.239 You don't really need much more explanation than that, because 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.320 if LVE and DeMont Clark, if they can cover sideline 0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.360 the sideline and keep Saquon Barkley at or behind the 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.759 line of scrimmage to let the other dogs eat, then 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.200 that's that's a huge win because again that puts the 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.880 game on Daniel Jones, and then that allows Gilmore digs 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.560 the secondary to do what they do, but keeping with 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.279 Saquon Barkley, because again, for me, that's the number one 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:49.479 threat Hankins, that interior run defense. Right if if Brian 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.760 Dabo determines that he's not having success in the flats 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.959 and sideline the sideline beating the Cowboys off the age, 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.239 because LVE has stepped up and he's really playing that 0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.239 game and he's going to try to run Saquan up 0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.120 the A and the B gap. Okay, Will Hankins, if 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.600 you have a phenomenal game that deletes that as well, 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:06.520 goes to Mazzie Smith as well, and anyone else that 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.600 lines up at that one tech role. Then it goes 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.120 to Tank. Now we're talking about the pass rush. Now 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.960 that we've eliminated hopefully Sakwon Barkley with your linebackers in 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.839 your interior run defense. Now you get the tee off 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.560 on the edges, DeMarcus Lawrence because we can't talk about 0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:25.080 Michael Parsons. Derek said, we can't. So the edge, you 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.120 got Tank teeing off against Evan Neil. He's already shown 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.640 he can dismantle that guy. He gets in the backfield, 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.839 makes a long day for Daniel Jones. And then when 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.239 Daniel Jones, if he's not taken to the ground, if 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.400 he does escape and he's keeping his eyes downfield, he 0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.239 wants to make a play downfield. Now he has to 0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:44.200 go up against Diggs Gilmour at that combo, Deron Bland, 0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:44.840 Jordan Lewis. 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.120 So that's how my rankings shakes out. And damn, you're 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:47.640 really good at this. 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:52.840 So I like that it's smooth dand rush Gilmore Hankins 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:57.080 Lawrence for me, why that, because I feel like, though 0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.920 you're I think Patrick's right about Lbe. He has to 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.120 find a way to play sideline the sidelines in this 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.800 in this game, you know, and I think Gilmore on 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.279 the outside. We'll see if they want to attack. If 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.799 they don't go at Diggs, who will they go at 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:12.960 these receivers. They feel like that they can make some 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:14.880 place down the field. I feel like you've got to 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.600 be able to cover that way. Hankins is a guy, 0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.120 like I say, that could clog up things going inside, 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.879 you know, and help also LV with the running game. 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.840 To me, it's as much as I love Lawrence on 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:28.920 the edge rush and I think there's other options to 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.280 rush as well. So I'm going to put the rush. 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:32.920 I think the rush is going to fall on some 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.800 other guys the run stopping and to fall on Hankins 0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.799 and Lve and but most importantly they're going to need 0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:41.480 to cover. I think the Giants are going to try 0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:44.200 and throw the football in this game, and even though 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.239 the Cowboys pass rush is good, so I think that's 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:47.680 on Gilmour to make some coverage. 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.480 I think a lot of these they're very interchangeable. But 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:53.759 if I had to look at of one specific guy, 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.000 and I agree with you guys as far as everything 0:45:56.040 --> 0:46:00.239 you've said about Layton just because you look at everybodybody 0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:04.760 else and you feel like, imagine if one single player 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.680 was out I think the one area because of the 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:13.120 lack of death behind it, it would have to be Leyton, 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:17.640 vander Esh and everybody else. You still have talent, and 0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.719 I mean Gilmore you need him, but I think if 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.320 you're taking up care of business up front, that should 0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:29.480 help for what's happening with the defensive backs. So but yeah, 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.480 everything you guys said retweet repost. 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.120 I'm sure kind of interested that you guys didn't put 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.080 Hankins first. And the reason why I would have put 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:39.640 Hankins first is similar what you guys are saying with 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.720 regards to the run defense. Yes, I need Leyden Vandersh 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.480 to cover the field sideline the sideline. I think that's 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.839 infinitely easier when you got a defensive tackle that keeps 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.239 that those offensive linemen off of you to allow you 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.360 to run sideline the sideline. So I think Leydon vander 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.160 Esh's ability to play this game really well will depend 0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.839 on how much can Steve defensive front keep those guys 0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:03.160 from getting to the second level. 0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:06.400 The Marcus Lawrence's game as a run defender might be 0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:11.799 more important than that's because if you get Hankins, if 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.680 you get Hankins going holding blocks and especially against the 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.120 inside guys that are having problems blocking him, I think 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.000 that's a that's a good matchup for the Cowboys vander 0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.280 esh on the run if and then you've got Lords 0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.759 playing on the run too, you know, And and I 0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:26.799 think that the Giants are going to try and run 0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:28.799 the ball on the edges. I think the end point 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.799 you know, they're going to make, They're going to see 0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.680 who is going to play right defensive end. There's gonna 0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.640 be a lot of left handed runs for the Giants. 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.360 They're going to test whoever your right end is. And 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.400 they're going to see where, in fact, where Diggs is 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.400 as far as how physical he wants to play in 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.279 this game. People have had some success running the ball 0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:51.239 to the Cowboys right and the offenses left, so we'll 0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:52.360 see how that'll holds up. 0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:54.600 Also, my thought process, and that's why I had Hankins 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:58.279 as my number two behind LV and it's because I'm 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:01.879 confident in feeling that the bow is going to try 0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.840 to run Barkley off the edges and put him in 0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:05.680 space out in the flats first. That's he's going to 0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.319 test the linebackers early to see if they can cover 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:08.800 in space. 0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:09.480 Their ability to. 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:11.600 Do that is going to be also about can those 0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.080 defensive tackles keep them off the second level. What we 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.640 know about Leyden vander Esh is Laydon vander Esh will 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.600 play really great football if he's not always having one 0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.400 of those offensive linemen on him. 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:25.080 Dallas Dallas should win inside, Yeah, Dallas should win inside him. 0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.440 Become much better linebackers. By the way, you can probably 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.799 go across the entire league. Linebackers are better linebackers when 0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.640 they don't have offensive linemen in their face. So if 0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:37.400 you got a better defensive tackle in front of you, 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.120 you're going to be better as a linebacker. 0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:39.719 Absolutely. 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:43.080 I think it's just the thought process of opportunities, right, 0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:46.600 Who's going to be attacked early and more often? And 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:48.759 I think that based on their scheme, the New York 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.680 Giants scheme, they're going to attack the linebackers early and 0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.120 more often. Then they would give Hankins an opportunity to 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.360 be dominant in the game early. So that's why I 0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:01.360 have lve over Hankins because obviously both are important for 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.120 those reasons. But my scale slides more towards the linebacker 0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:07.560 simply because I feel like before they test Hankins, they're 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:09.879 going to test the linebackers and lv E and they're 0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.880 gonna do that more frequently before they If lv E 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.919 can you know, continue to play well, then they'll say, Okay, 0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.239 well we're not really winning on these edges. Let's at 0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:21.040 least try the inside. And that's when they run up again. 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.000 If you listed Curse, I would have put him second 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:25.000 because of what Waller is gonna do. 0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:25.880 I agree with you on that. 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.600 After as I was reading the question, I thought to myself, 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.040 I should have thrown because Curse would have been even better. 0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:31.520 Because I agree with you. 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:31.960 I may. 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:36.640 If I would have had him in there, but that 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.719 was my miss. All Right, we apprecid. You guys join us. 0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:41.080 We'll be back tomorrow. We'll wrap this whole thing up. 0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:43.280 Let you guys know what wething's gonna happen this weekend. 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:43.680 Until then. 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.960 For Brian brought us, Patrick Walker, Ambergarcia. 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