1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Cowboys, Let's go. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, And so much for that. 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker, and 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 6: It is Thursday, September seventh, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 6: episode number twenty six. Welcome to the latest edition of 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 6: The Break. 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: We are live from. 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 6: The SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star and today we're 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 6: going to get into more talk Cowboys versus Giants. That's 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 6: coming up Sunday night, Sunday Night Football. We'll talk about 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 6: the Giants defense today. I'm sorry, we talking about the 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 6: Giants offense today first Cowboys defense. Before we do that, though, 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 6: got to get some updates on some injuries. We've got 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 6: three that we're keeping an eye on. One that actually 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 6: has some good news, not necessarily about the injury per se, 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 6: but just some personal news. 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 2: It's for mister Donovan Wilson. 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 7: Donovan Wilson, he's missing practice today for what Mike McCarthy 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 7: called a great personal reason. And as it turns out, 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 7: Donald is the latest Dallas cowboy to welcome a newborn 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 7: into his family. 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 5: So that makes three since July. 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 7: So it was Tony Pollard early in training camp, Cavante Turpin, 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 7: and now Donovan Wilson. And McCarthy said, he told the guys, 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 7: if there's something something in the water, let me go right. 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: So yeah, that water away from me in my household. 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 5: So congratulations, you might have just changed yourself. 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: So Cannowledge bro done with that. 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 5: God's plan. 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 7: So Donovan Wilson, So no change in his status as 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 7: far as availability or potentially lack thereof against the giants. 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 7: We still don't know any thing more than we did 42 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 7: yesterday other than he's doing work on the cords. But 43 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 7: he'll have a chance to do some more work tomorrow, 44 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 7: not a practice tomorrow, but do some work and then 45 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 7: the walkthrough on Saturday, which is I think really when 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 7: they'll make a determination on him. Some more positive news 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 7: on Tyler Smith, although he is not still not participating 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 7: in today's practice today being Thursday. Mike McCarthy basically affirmed 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 7: what I said on yesterday's show, what my plan would 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 7: be would be to sit out Tyler Smith all this week, 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 7: give him the walkthrough on Saturday, and then say hey 52 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 7: see Sunday night. Mike McCarthy this morning said that all 53 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 7: Tyler Smith needs to have a good shot at playing 54 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 7: on Sunday is to participate in the walkthrough on Saturday. 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 7: So it looks like that bar is really low for 56 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 7: Tyler Smith, which is good. 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 5: He said. 58 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 7: Tyler told him that he feels great. He's feeling good 59 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 7: with that hamstring strings, So really good chance that Tyler 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 7: Smith takes to fill. Sam Williams with the turf toe 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 7: still with the rehab group today on Thursday, but he 62 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 7: did more work today than he did on yesterday, so 63 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 7: I'm still I'm right there with broad Us on I'm 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 7: pessimistic on if Sam takes the field on Sunday, but 65 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 7: it does look like he's at least making some progress. 66 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 7: So that's what's going on on the injury front. I 67 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 7: will say key to note Jordan Lewis was a full 68 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 7: participant in yesterday's practice, so as he returns from his 69 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 7: list frank injury which was actually worse than that, he 70 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 7: is practicing fully in his second week back from the 71 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 7: pup list. He says he feels good. I talked to 72 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 7: him in the locker room yesterday. I asked him straight up, 73 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 7: I said, hey, are they ramping you up in practice? 74 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 7: And he said, quote unquote hell no, he said. Mike 75 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 7: told him, I want to throw you into the fire. 76 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 7: So he said he was being lined up against Lamb 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 7: Cook's gallup yesterday, so expect more of that today. So 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 7: good look for Jordan Lewis going into Sunday's matchup against 79 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 7: the Giants. 80 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to come down to the wire. I 81 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: think on Tyler Smith, I think it's gonna I anticipaid 82 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: him being with Britt Brown all week until Saturday, and 83 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: then they're going to figure it out from there. I 84 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: don't and a doga. You know, we talked about veteran options. 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: He seems like the guy that they would probably put 86 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: in there at left guard uh to to be, But 87 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: I would I would anticipate the next couple of days, 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: they're really trying to figure out Tyler Smith's injury, and 89 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: so you know, Britt does a good job of, you know, 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: getting those guys ready. You know, he could talk about 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: feeling great and feeling healthy and all that, but the 92 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: termination is going to come from that trainer and that 93 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: you know, if how that if he's ready to go, 94 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: much like it is with Sam Williams as well, you know, 95 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: if he goes out there and works out and just 96 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: doesn't feel right or it doesn't look right or he 97 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: can't push off, they're not going to put a hurt 98 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: player out there. They just don't do that. So I 99 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: do think it's going to be close on uh on 100 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: Tyler Smith. And you know, again that's just talking some 101 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: folks in the organization. Yeah, just a. 102 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 8: Little bit scary because sometimes when situations like that happen 103 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 8: where you're literally waiting down to the wire and let's 104 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 8: say this in this instance, what happens Saturday with him 105 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 8: and the walk through him, pregame warm ups and all that, 106 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 8: it makes you wonder, too, is it better to just 107 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 8: given that it's the first week of the season, is 108 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 8: it better to just be super extra precautionary and take 109 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 8: precaution and just letting him rest for a whole week 110 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 8: in case he re injures himself or whatever. Because we're starting, 111 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 8: we haven't played a single game yet, and you do 112 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 8: want him healthy all throughout the season. 113 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 7: I think that's a good point. I mean, not that 114 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 7: I think it's a good point. It is a good point. 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 7: What I would also add to that, though, is to 116 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 7: your point, as far as they'll work him out with 117 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 7: the Saturday walk through, you got the pregame, and then 118 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 7: they'll ask him how he feels after the pregame, and 119 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 7: then if he's a game time decision, that's how they'll 120 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 7: make that decision. But you know that precaution could also 121 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 7: be lending itself to them allowing him to start. If 122 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 7: Saturday's walk through looks good, pre game looks good, let 123 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 7: him start, and then after a couple of reps, you 124 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 7: pull them to the side and say, hey, how are 125 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 7: you feeling, and then you have that contingency plan. B 126 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 7: Ity Dogo or Bass whomever else brought Kaufman maybe some 127 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 7: awesome richards, But I think that's a measure as well, 128 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 7: because I do think you have to at least give, 129 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 7: if he feels good enough, give him the chance to 130 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 7: line up against this New York Giants defensive front because 131 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 7: you're going to need it. Knowing that while every game 132 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 7: is important, statistically speaking, this game is more important than 133 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 7: Week two against the New York Jets. So if you're 134 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 7: going to have to be without him. You'd rather be 135 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 7: against the Jets than against New York just by way 136 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 7: of the division race. Right, So if you're going to 137 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 7: be a little less than one hundred percent, yeah, you 138 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 7: want to defeat Aaron Rodgers, obviously, but you know, potentially 139 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 7: losing to the Jets is not as bad as losing 140 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 7: to the Giants, especially in week one when you have 141 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 7: all this hype coming into the season. 142 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: You know what, I disagree with you on that one 143 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 3: because I feel like, though there's always seventeen of these games, 144 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: you know, and so you know they always ask you 145 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: to like, is this a must win? Hell, they're all 146 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: must win. You only play seventeen of them. You know 147 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: this isn't Major League Baseball we play one hundred and 148 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: sixty two or NBA play eighty two. You know this 149 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: is you have to think about if if if if 150 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: there's questions about him potentially hurting himself. You know, I 151 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: get it. You've started adoga, he's practiced all week. Fine, 152 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: if something happens, I wouldn't play him on the on 153 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: the hey, how do you feel? Bit? I would say, 154 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: either you're gonna play this game or you're not gonna 155 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: play this game, you know. But yeah, I kind of 156 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: feel like though you know, I'm not playing with that. 157 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: You know we're gonna rotate guys here that way. I'm 158 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: either I'm either going to go with the guy that 159 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: practiced all week or the guy like if if we 160 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: determine that Tyler Smith is healthy enough to go full 161 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: full game and not have any problems, then that's what 162 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna roll with. I'm more like with Ambar though. 163 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: I know, to me, if if if my guy is 164 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: somewhat questionable or limited, it happens late in the year 165 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: where guys are really banged up and you get to 166 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: that point. But right now, if he's not healthy enough 167 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: to go and give me confidency and go the whole game. 168 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: I live that in a game at the Metlands before 169 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: with Amari Cooper going five plays against the Jets and 170 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: then not playing the rest of the game. So I'm 171 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: not going to do that again for sure. 172 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 7: I think my point is is you're going to if 173 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 7: he feels good and Saturday walk through and he passes 174 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 7: the pregame physical and everything, then. 175 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: He's good enough to go. 176 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 5: He's good enough to go. 177 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, But with that being said, you're still playing a 178 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 7: guy that didn't practice all week anyway. 179 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's the thing that they you know, 180 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: that's that's their rule. I mean, there used to be 181 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: a previous administration used to be here where if you 182 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: didn't practice, you really didn't play. You know. If that's 183 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: if that's Mike McCarthy's way of doing it, and that's 184 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: you know, okay, but determine that if he is good 185 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: enough that he is not going to get injured and 186 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: we're going to lose him for the Jets and two 187 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: or three other games down the road. I'm determined. 188 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 5: If we're talking two or three games, then no, you 189 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 5: sit him for a week one. 190 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: But well, that's what I'm saying. If you could get 191 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: into a game and all of a sudden strain turns 192 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: into a poll or something worse, then you know, I 193 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: think that to me, that's prevent I'm more with Ambar this. 194 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: You've got a doga ready all week play and if 195 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: he's ready, I mean playing because he's practiced. But if 196 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: Tyler Smith is, if they determine on Saturday that it's 197 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: not that he's moving around and he can't and he's gonna. 198 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 5: Be shut him down. Shut I'm there with that. Yeah, 199 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 5: I'm there with that. 200 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 6: It's interesting you say that said they it's only seventeen games. 201 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 6: Reminds me of what Parcels used to say, it's football season. 202 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: In football season. Football players play football. There's not there's not, honestly. 203 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 6: And then I think the players look at it like that, 204 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 6: like there's only seventeen. 205 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: Chances you get opportunities. 206 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, And they want to be out which is 207 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: why Tyler wants to be out there. 208 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 8: They want to be like, you don't want to bubble 209 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 8: wrap anybody, because that's the whole point of what you 210 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 8: work for the whole year. But at the same time, 211 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 8: you got to be precautionary. 212 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 5: And you play the balance game. 213 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 7: If he wants to go, if he's good to go, 214 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 7: at least good enough to go because football players play football, 215 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 7: then he looks good. Pregame, you put him in and 216 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 7: then after you know the first offensive drivet, you do 217 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 7: pull him to the side and say, how are you 218 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 7: feeling any soreness, any tightness, And if he says no, okay, 219 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 7: then you playing the rest of this game. If he 220 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 7: says it's tightened up a little bit, okay, well now 221 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 7: it's the conversation that that's what I'm saying. 222 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's let's move on real quick. 223 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 6: I wanted to get to one bigger question around the 224 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 6: defense before we get into the actual assessment of the 225 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 6: defense versus the Giants offense. Looking back at last season, 226 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 6: they were I able to say probably among the top 227 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 6: you could say, probably realistic top seven to eight defenses 228 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 6: in the league. You might even say a little higher. 229 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 6: But that being said, if there was one thing going 230 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 6: into this year that you'd say this, this defense needs 231 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 6: to be much better at this and it'll take them 232 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 6: to that next level. 233 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: Cowboys the defense about to say the Giants don't turn 234 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: they don't get any turnover. No, yeah, I'm talking Yeah. 235 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: If you're a Giants fan, you want them to turn 236 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: the ball, of which they're absolutely horrible. 237 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: They're looking at the Cowboys defense as a whole, going 238 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 6: back to last season, what's that one thing you'd want 239 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 6: them to be better at. 240 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 5: It's got to be run defense, and I think it, 241 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: but they were. It improved. 242 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 7: It improved markedly. When you get the trade for Jonathan Hankins, 243 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 7: it absolutely did. You also saw what happened when Jonathan 244 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 7: Hankins was out for a couple games with injury, it 245 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 7: kind of took a step down again, But I think 246 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 7: that can be boasted with the addition of Mazzie Smith. 247 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 7: And I'm right there with Brian on you need to 248 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 7: unleash Mozzie as much as possible, let him get them rest. Agree, 249 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 7: But I think that while it has improved with Jonathan 250 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 7: Hankins and theoretically should improve that much more so with 251 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 7: the Massie Smith. Until you see that run defense for 252 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 7: the Cowboys consistently week in week out for the majority, 253 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 7: if not the entirety of a season, quell any concerns 254 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 7: that you've had over the past several years. That's going 255 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 7: to continue to be kind of like the crutch of 256 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 7: the defense. They can take the ball away in the air, 257 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 7: they can take the ball away on the ground, they 258 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 7: can force fumbles, just that they can get interceptions. Their 259 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 7: pass rush is arguably one of, if not the best, 260 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 7: in the league when you put it up against the 261 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 7: Eagles and the forty nine ers. So the weak spot, 262 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 7: if you're not talking about depth like linebacker, the weak 263 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 7: spot for me, albeit not a weak spot anymore, just 264 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 7: needs to consistency to prove to me that they can 265 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 7: stop the run on top of everything else, and once 266 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 7: they do away with that question mark, it's impenetrable defense 267 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 7: at that point. 268 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: Stupid third down penalties, Stupid third down penalties. How many 269 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: times have we seen a third and twelve, third and eight, 270 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, they get a great stop, 271 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: they get pressure, they get a sack, whatever. Then there's 272 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: a legal contact, there's a legal there's a hold, a 273 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: defensive hole, hands to the face, low unsportsmanlike penalty, low 274 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: into the quarterback's legs. You know you're getting off the 275 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: field on third down. Don't put your defense back in 276 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: harms way by an illegal contact penalty on the complete 277 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: opposite side of the field. If you're a safety, don't 278 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: hold the tight end when he's not a factor in 279 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: the play. Limit the stupid third down penalties that keep 280 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: you from getting off the field. 281 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 8: Kevin Joseph is no longer here. 282 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: So that's that's Sam Williams. 283 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: Progress, you know, and it will Digs Diggs hold. 284 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 8: Ye, I don't know that language that you're talking about, 285 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 8: but no, there are a number of there are a 286 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 8: number of players I think you could probably point to 287 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 8: for some of those silly mistakes like they'll they'll throw 288 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 8: some of those at you in and and most that's. 289 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: That is the one thing like this defense will do 290 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: a great job of getting you in a bad position, 291 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 3: and then they will they will choke you off to 292 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: get off the field. But then all of a sudden, 293 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: it's a it's a holding penalty, hands to the face, uh, 294 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: illegal contest. Yeah, And all of a sudden, now you 295 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: get back on the field and it's you. Then they 296 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: the team finds a way to get a little rhythm 297 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: and they're kicking a field gold or it's a touchdown, 298 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 3: and you know they're running another putting another twelve thirteen 299 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: plays on your defense because you had an opportunity to 300 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: get off the field and you didn't get off. 301 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: And now you've gone from possibly winning the tunnel position 302 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 7: to that point and now you're suddenly losing town possessions. 303 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: So these offenses will wear you down in the NFL, 304 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: they will, and it takes a toll on you playing 305 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: these games, especially early in the year. 306 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, especially, I'm trying to come up with something other 307 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 8: than what you guys said, and I'm having a hard time. 308 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 8: But the only other thing that comes to mind, and 309 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 8: this is not an area that needs to be improved. 310 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 8: It's just an area that I see. They still have 311 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 8: a lot more potential to be better at our takeaways. 312 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 8: Even though last year they got a little bit over 313 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 8: thirty plus takeaways, there's still so many instances when they 314 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 8: get so close to the ball and their hands even 315 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 8: I saw that happening at training camp so much, and 316 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 8: they're just right there and they could just take it 317 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 8: to another level. I think that it's just a potential 318 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 8: is there and they could be even better. 319 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: I think I think you make a really good point 320 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: because to me, look what happened in the San Francisco 321 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: playoff game. The ball that maybe Digs didn't see it 322 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: got knocked through traffic, and you know he's got his 323 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: hands on it, and you're thinking, man, Bro, you've got 324 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: you know, you intercept eleven twelve balls and your ball 325 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: skills are some of the best in the league. You know, 326 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: you get that interception that that's drive over. 327 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure that haunted him. 328 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know that that's just drive over or 329 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: ball on the ground. It's the you know they tomahawk 330 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: the ball in the in the pocket, it's on the 331 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: ground and some lineman falls on it being opportunistic. I 332 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: think man luck I said that word because I was 333 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: not too sure about it. But but that's that's where 334 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: I think that you. I think that's where you know, 335 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: you talk about the improvement in turnovers if you have 336 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: a chance to get four or five extra being in 337 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: the right place, right time, or just awareness or finish. 338 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: You know, those are things. 339 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 8: It's not that they've been bad, but they're just so. 340 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: But but the number can be even higher. Yeah, the 341 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: number two at the league, haven't they the last two years? 342 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've been good. They could have really opportunities. 343 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 7: I'll add one to to that point, in addition to 344 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 7: the takeaways, Let's see if we can get you know, 345 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 7: one or two, maybe even three more defensive touchdowns help 346 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 7: help your offense out that way, while your offense is 347 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 7: trying to, you know, find its groove with McCarthy is 348 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 7: to play caller and Shantenhaimer is the whole. 349 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 5: See, you're taking it a whole where Also whether that's 350 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: where I wanted to go. I wanted to be a 351 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 5: whole nother not. 352 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 7: Because we talked about yesterday, difference between being a great 353 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 7: defense and special defense. I want them to be a 354 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 7: special defense, and you know, that's what I'm demanding. 355 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 6: That reminds me of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers the year 356 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 6: that they won the Super Bowl. The year before that, 357 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 6: they had a really good defense, and I think it 358 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 6: was Gruden that came in there as the head coach 359 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 6: and what he told the defensive leaders was, I want 360 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 6: this is what the reports say or some of the 361 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 6: players have talked about it. He is like, you guys 362 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 6: got to go from just being a great defense to 363 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 6: being special, and to be special what you gotta do 364 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 6: to score. And that defense that year, if you remember back, 365 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 6: was special because Ronnie Barber, those guys whenever they got 366 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 6: a chance, they were taking not only when they getting 367 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 6: the ball, they're getting the ball and taking it back 368 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 6: and they're scoring. 369 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: And that's what made them such a special defense. 370 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: Well that's how they won the NFC Championship. It was 371 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: Rondee Harber scoring on a you know, put the game 372 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: away for him at the end. So yeah, that's one 373 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: way to do it. 374 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say real quick too. 375 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 6: Also, I think one of the things that sticks out 376 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 6: to me for this defense is I think they got 377 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 6: to win on some of the early downs. They have 378 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 6: to have the mentality we're going to earn the right 379 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 6: to rush the passer because I think offense is opposing. 380 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 6: Offense is going to come into every game saying we're 381 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 6: going to try everything in us to not put ourselves 382 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 6: in a situation where they can pass rush because their 383 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 6: pass rush is Cowboys pass rush is special and and 384 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 6: so I think they're gonna have to be very focused. 385 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 6: It's it's about stopping the run, but it really is more, 386 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 6: in my opinion, about not just stopping the run, but 387 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 6: winning first and second downs and forcing teams those third 388 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 6: and long situations that will give them the opportunity of 389 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 6: the internal loose their their superpower, which is getting after 390 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 6: the passer, and that's going to get the turnovers because 391 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 6: you get to the quarterback, you got you know, fumble sacks, 392 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 6: You've got situations where they're trying to get the all 393 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 6: out quick and you got a dB that that jumps 394 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 6: a route and gets a pick. I think that's where 395 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 6: you really can become special. So if they can win 396 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 6: on first and second downs, I think that'll be huge. 397 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 3: I think that comes to what you're talking about as 398 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: well with with tackling. You know, when you when you're 399 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: an elite defense, you have elite tackling. Like like we've 400 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: seen teams are really good defenses that all of a sudden, 401 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: ball is out. It's a completion, but it's a three 402 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: yard game because it's tackled right there, or it's a 403 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: four yard game because it's tackled right there. There's not 404 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: you know, maybe early in the season you the tackling 405 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: is not as good because you haven't you're not as 406 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: used to it. I mean, you know the preseason games 407 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: and all that fine, But to keep an eye on 408 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 3: when you're watching these games, how many mistackles there are 409 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: in these games. It may be lead to big plays. 410 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: That's the thing that kills uh, these defenses is these 411 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: chunk big plays. 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By 482 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 6: by the way, real quick, I do need to say 483 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 6: this segment's brought to you by Blockchain dot Com. 484 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: All right, cool, So Brian, here we go. 485 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 6: Let's talk about the Dallas defense versus the new York 486 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 6: Giant offense. 487 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an offense that has really remade itself with additions, 488 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: and you know they were able to get in the playoffs. 489 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: A lot of it had to do with I felt 490 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: like the coach came in from week one. If you 491 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: Brian Diebol the coach there. Week one, they go for 492 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: the victory in Tennessee. It kind of set the tone 493 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: for the whole season for them, and especially with what 494 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: they're able to do offensively. Came in he limited the 495 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: number of turnovers that Daniel Jones has. That's really where 496 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: this team is going to focus on, trying to do 497 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: things to keep him on schedule, keep him ahead of 498 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: the chains. He's an outstanding athlete. He's going to run. 499 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: He is going to in the pocket. If you things 500 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: break down, he's going to take off running on you, 501 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: So you have to be careful about that. He's very 502 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: confident in the ways playing. They like to move the 503 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: pocket with him. They liked him to throw on the 504 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 3: on the move more than they do actually throw within 505 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: the pocket. But the additions that they've made though Isaiah Hodges, 506 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: when you look at Paris Campbell as well, and then 507 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 3: the addition of Jalen Hyatt, the rookie from Tennessee. What 508 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 3: they're gonna do is that their starters are likely going 509 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: to be Hodges Slayton Campbell, and then with Shepherd and 510 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: Hyatt also getting opportunities. Wandel Robinson's a little nicked up 511 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: right now. The slot player for them is going to 512 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: be Paris Campbell is who that's gonna be. Hyatt's their 513 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: vertical player. He's the downfield threat you have to worry about. 514 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: But the other guys will all be involved. Hyatt was 515 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: a guy thought initially would be a starter, and but 516 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: no he's not not the first time around, It's gonna 517 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: be Hodges Slayton Campbell again working Paris Campbell out of 518 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: the slot. Also work in Paris Campbell. Much like what 519 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 3: they do, you know with with Turpin, You're gonna see, 520 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: you know, maybe him in the backfield, Uh, maybe him 521 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: getting those reverses. They're gonna you know, they're gonna try 522 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 3: a lot of misdirection stuff on you, so you have 523 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 3: to be very mindful of that. Uh you mentioned Darren Waller. 524 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: The Giants have have had a history of outstanding tight ends. 525 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 3: You know. It's it's a shame, not a shame. But 526 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: Evan Ingram, it's funny how he goes from the Giants 527 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: to Jacksonville and he's a totally different player. Well, here 528 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: they add Darren Waller to the mix. And Darren Waller 529 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: is a big body guy. You look at him on 530 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: the field, he's physical, he's tough down the field, he 531 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: can extend, he's an athlete. How you take care of 532 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: him will be a big part of this game, will you. 533 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: You know, if you put a smaller guy on him, 534 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: if you think you could put a corner on him, 535 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: it's not going to work. He's just too big. I 536 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: think that maybe the matchup here will be curse uh 537 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 3: and and that and the fact because you got to 538 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: go with you got to go with length on length 539 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: here and you've got to go with a physical player 540 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: against a physical player. So Darren Waller, you know, there's 541 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of boots, the waggles outside the 542 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: pocket throws. Waller is there is his is. Daniel Jones 543 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: is like, you know, throw him the ball like much 544 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: like Dak and Dalton Schultz that kind of that. Okay, 545 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: it's second third down, I'm gonna throw the ball to him. 546 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: He's gonna get seven yards and then he's gonna get 547 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: out of balance or he's gonna get down. He's gonna 548 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: get me a first down. But Waller's that that kind 549 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 3: of player for them. Barkley running the football. We all 550 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: know about Sakuon Barkley. He's you know, he's his career 551 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: against the Cowboys has not been great. He's you know, 552 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: he's struggled through injuries a lot of times. He's got 553 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 3: hurt during games. But yeah, they're going to try and 554 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: get him the ball. He could run it inside, he 555 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: could run it outside. They like to throw the ball 556 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: to him, So you got to get ready for the screens. Anything, 557 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: you know, anything can try and control pass rush that 558 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: they're gonna do. They could use Sakuon Barkley just to 559 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: flip him the ball, let him you try to tackle 560 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: him in space, which could be a big, big problem 561 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: for you. On the offensive line, they're playing kind of 562 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 3: roulette right now. At left guard. They don't know who 563 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 3: they're left. Their starter is left guard. Brettison and Glewinsky 564 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: are the two guards primarily, but they they rotate a 565 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: lot of different guys. They have a rookie center that's 566 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: a very good athlete, and he's good at handling some 567 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: one on one blocks, but he does have trouble with 568 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 3: power a little bit. And he's people have got have 569 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: been able to there was when you watched him at 570 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: Minnesota inversity of Minnesota. Uh, he was able to kind 571 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: of like reach when they say reach is like go 572 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: to uh uh you know if a player is wide 573 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: on him to get his body in position where he 574 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: could turn back. He hasn't had as much sustain as 575 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: he has in college, and maybe these NFL tackles are 576 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: giving him a little bit of a problem. So keeping 577 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: keep in mind what's going on inside Roulette at guard 578 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: and then a little bit of a rookie center that's 579 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: problem with his sustain. So maybe the Cowboys can win 580 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: some of those battles. Inside. You clearly want to attack 581 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: Evan Neil the right tackle, and this is where I 582 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: think that this is where uh, DeMarcus Lawrence has had 583 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: some good when he's able to break down guys. Evan 584 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: Neil is a guy that he could break down. He's 585 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: a little bit of a slower guy. And Andrew Thomas 586 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 3: on the other side, it's one of the best right 587 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: one of the best left tackles. In the league. When 588 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: you start talking about that guy out there in San 589 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: Francisco and others, Andrew Thomas's name will get thrown into 590 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 3: this mix right here. So they've added some players throughout 591 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: just because they've added some skill with guys like I say, 592 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 3: uh Hodges and then and then Campbell and Hyatt, and 593 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: then they've also added Waller. With the main stays that 594 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: they've had, they've tried to upgrade the offensive line a 595 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: little bit, but there's some areas that you could definitely 596 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: attack there. 597 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 7: What I love about that scout and report is all 598 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 7: of it, but two things, primarily when you talk about 599 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 7: Jalen Hyatt and his speed and ability to go deep, 600 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 7: him not being pegged as a starter just yet right 601 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 7: it's that's going to be huge because I already believe 602 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 7: that the Cowboys have the personnel to, you know, likely 603 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 7: delete Jalen Hyatt, particularly as a rookie. He has that 604 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 7: going on as well. But I love a matchup with Hodgens, 605 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 7: Slayton Campbell. If that's going to be your top three 606 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 7: out there, including your slot you're talking about Gilmore, Digs, 607 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 7: Bland and Jordan Lewis in rotation. Give me the Cowboys 608 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 7: in that matchup all day long. You gotta love that 609 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 7: if you're the Cowboys. And then going to Brian's scunner 610 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 7: report on the defensive or the offensive line, the fact 611 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 7: that Glewinsky has strength issues and he's going to be 612 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 7: going up against guys like Jonathan Hankins, Mozzi Smith, Chauncey Ghost, 613 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 7: and Neville Gallamore. You gotta love that matchup for the Cowboys. 614 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 7: And then as Brian can a test and anyone who 615 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 7: watches football can of test, your offensive line is really 616 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 7: going to be only as good as the interior. Once 617 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 7: that interior gets blown up, doesn't matter how good your 618 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 7: tackles are. So Evan Neil, yes, he typically gets handled, 619 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 7: no other way to put it. By DeMarcus Lawrence. I 620 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 7: believe that's going to happen. But you got young guys 621 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 7: who are struggling to kind of hold their anchor inside, 622 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 7: hold their hands. Jonathan Hankins con feast, Mozzi Smith can feast, 623 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 7: and you can get pressure on Daniel Jones, which is 624 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 7: going to help disrupt whatever plays you have for sakuon Barkley, 625 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 7: which then puts the game on Daniel Jones, who, as 626 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 7: we said yesterday in lab coat. He just doesn't do 627 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 7: well under durest. Yes, he can escape, but I also 628 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 7: went to dig up a little bit, how does Daniel 629 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 7: Jones perform against dan Quinn when he has to escape 630 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 7: and he starts to use his legs. Well, fifteen attempts 631 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 7: in his three games versus dan quinn defense, he's averaging 632 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 7: only thirty four yards per game on the ground. None 633 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 7: of those are wins, and he has no rushing touchdowns. 634 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 7: So blow up the interior of that defense. And then 635 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 7: you got to love the matchup on the outside receiver 636 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 7: versus cornerbacks for the Cowboys, and the game just looks 637 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 7: more and more like it's leaning leaning towards Dallas. 638 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, when you look at this offensive line, it's interesting 639 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 6: because Brian, as you're mentioning, you know, basically it's the 640 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 6: right side that's from the center to the right, like 641 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 6: that's where the vulnerability is. 642 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: It's not just one. 643 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 6: It's kind of like you mentioned all three of those names. 644 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 6: You mentioned the center, you mentioned, the right guard, you mentioned, 645 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 6: the right tackle. And when you're playing a defensive front 646 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 6: like the Cowboys, that certainly I think should present some 647 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 6: opportunities for them if you've got an entire side of 648 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 6: your offensive line where there are some questions. Now again 649 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 6: all these are question marks. You never know how much 650 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 6: of guy has developed and gotten better since the last 651 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 6: time you saw him on an NFL filled on a 652 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 6: regular season game. 653 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: But all that being said, right now. 654 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 6: It does look like it's it would be something that 655 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 6: could be exploited by the Gay. 656 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. They The thing the Giants are trying to do 657 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: is and a thing you need to like I mentioned 658 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: with Daniel Jones, is they're trying to get the ball 659 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: out faster because they realize that they have the problems 660 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: with you know. So there's there's a lot of there's 661 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of movement to this. This this 662 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: they're going to try and confuse you a little bit too. 663 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: The motions, the slot motions, the deep overs, the post things. 664 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: They're going to try and run you down the field. 665 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: And like I say, Paris Campbell is one of those 666 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: guys that he's really big run after catch guy. So 667 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: they're going to try and get him the ball. And 668 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: that's like I said, I'm thinking that maybe they're going 669 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: to try and use him like they use like they 670 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: use Turpid, where they put him in the backfield and 671 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 3: maybe you'll see him with in the backfield. With they 672 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: send Barkley one way and then here comes Campbell back 673 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 3: the other you know, get you to kind of commit 674 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: and then run the ball, you know, back the other way. 675 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: So they're going to do everything in their in their 676 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: power not to expose their offensive line. 677 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 6: Who's the most dangerous of those wide receivers. You got 678 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 6: Hodgens and Campbell and Slayton. 679 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: I think it's Campbell. Well, okay, you know with Hyatt, 680 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: it's the vertical game, right, so if you know, all 681 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's a we're gonna max protect this 682 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: thing and then take a shot, you know. I mean 683 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: there's either catch, interference or incomplete you know, that's kind 684 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: of where things were, and especially if you're in a 685 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 3: situation I do worry about with with with Hyatt just 686 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: because of his speed. But if you watch them as players, 687 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: Campbell is the one that they they they like. I said, 688 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: they want to use him in various roles where it's 689 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: get him the ball and let him run, you know, 690 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: let him play in space. 691 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: Does match up there? 692 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: That's the thing with Bland. You know. The thing with 693 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 3: Bland is he's so physical inside, you know, and Bland 694 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: is not afraid when they run him through things. He's 695 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: able to navigate. So Bland's a good tackler too. So 696 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: if Campbell gets the ball, that's what's going to be. 697 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: It's like ball to him. They're going to try and 698 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: run him, ball to him, tackle him right there. Don't 699 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: let a four yard game be a twenty six yard game. Yeah, 700 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: let it, you know, so I would say that Bland, 701 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, but he planned. I don't know about you guys. 702 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: I felt like Blam had a really quiet camp this year. 703 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it was because they were 704 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: trying to have Joseph play somewhat slot that they were 705 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: trying to get a look there and they put they 706 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: put Bland on the outside to kind of so maybe 707 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: he wasn't always totally involved in everything. 708 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: Let me just clarify. 709 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 6: When you say a quiet camp, are you meaning he 710 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 6: wasn't really making plays or you mean he was getting 711 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 6: beat No? 712 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: No, no quiet, just he wasn't the plays. You know, 713 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: usually with him, it's like knockdown pass, right down pass. 714 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: You know, there were guys out there that you were 715 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: seeing in practice that were knocking you know that. But 716 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: the thing about. Like I said, I love Bland. I 717 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of guys out on the West coast. 718 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: He goes to Fresno, and there's a lot of those 719 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: Pac twelve coaches that are going, why did we what 720 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: do we? How do we miss this guy? Yeah, you know, 721 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: I mean the way he plays and all that. 722 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 8: I think he had a he still had a solid 723 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 8: camp with It wasn't like flashy, yeah you know, it wasn't. 724 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 8: He wasn't making headlines or anything, but he was pretty solid. 725 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I do. Like I said, I do 726 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: believe it's because of where they played him. I think 727 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: on the outside where he plays. When he plays inside, 728 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: usually that's where the ball. You know, the offense is 729 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: focused on getting the ball to their slot a lot 730 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: because it's just you have the whole field to cover, 731 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: and he can clearly cover the whole field. 732 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 7: I think it was a combination of what both of 733 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 7: you guys were saying. Number One, he it wasn't as flashy, 734 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 7: but you could say that contextually because it was Trevon 735 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 7: Diggs's camp as far as the cornerback is concerned, and 736 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 7: Stefan Gilmore's camp as far as the cornerback is concerning 737 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 7: that's where all eyes typically were Stefan or was Treyvon? 738 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 5: Where's Tree? Where's Steffan? 739 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 7: But and and to you know Brian's point, because they 740 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 7: were trying to get the Cowboys were trying to get 741 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 7: Kelvin Joseph so many reps in the slot. You did 742 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 7: see Deron Bland doing a lot of outside work, so 743 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 7: there was a little bit of a curve there for 744 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 7: him to adjust playing on the outside. But he made 745 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 7: his fair share of plays as well, pass break up 746 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 7: as couple of interceptions. So definitely, you know, looking to 747 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 7: take that next step. I've seen that he's ready to 748 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 7: take the next step and he's going to fall back 749 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 7: into the nickel road now you know now that we're 750 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 7: into the regular season and that's where he thrives, and 751 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 7: that's what he thrived last year and led the team 752 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 7: in interceptions. So he can definitely, and like Bryan satt 753 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 7: in one agree, he is arguably the most physical cornerback 754 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 7: that you have on the team right now. I mean 755 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 7: he loves he doesn't it's just not he It's just 756 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 7: not Deron not shine away from contact at the line 757 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 7: of scrimmage. He wants to put his hands on that 758 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 7: receiver disrupt the route at the line of scrimmage. So 759 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 7: if you can disrupt, you know, a guy like Campbell's 760 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 7: route right, mess up his timing, that's goal number one, 761 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 7: goal number two. If you fail on goal number one, 762 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 7: like he said, delete the yak. If you delete the yak, 763 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 7: you more or less started to neutralize one of their 764 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 7: bigger playmakers after the kid' you see how. 765 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: Lewis fits in the game plan this way too, you know, 766 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: because if things if you know things, sir, you know 767 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 3: that's the great thing. If something goes where you have 768 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 3: to where it's an injury or somebody's not playing well, 769 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: a couple of snaps, you you can put Lewis in 770 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: the game and kind of work around that in the slot. 771 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 6: And Giants made unfortunate too that if they're gonna bring 772 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 6: all four of those receivers on the field and get 773 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 6: into a dime type. 774 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: Of situation, maybe it creates that opportunity. 775 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 7: And I'll tell you what I talked to Jordan yesterday 776 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 7: in the locker room, and like I said, he not 777 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 7: only said they're throwing him into the fire, which were 778 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 7: his words I asked him, I said, is there any soreness. 779 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 7: How do you feel physically and he was like, no soreness. 780 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 7: I feel great. I said, okay, so how do you 781 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 7: feel mentally? Because he said a couple of weeks ago, 782 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 7: it's about feeling football again. I said, now you're lining 783 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 7: up against guys and these are the best guys in 784 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 7: the league. Cooks lamb and he said, the muscle memory 785 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 7: is starting to come back, the confidence is quickly regaining itself. 786 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 7: And hear that dog is starting to return. And I said, 787 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 7: so the trash talking and he was like, oh, it's 788 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 7: it's back. Okay, Joey Lewis is talking trash again, ladies 789 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 7: and gentlemen. So yeah, that's good sign. 790 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 6: All right, we're gonna take our final break. We will 791 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 6: come back. I got a question for these guys. We'll 792 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 6: have a couple of questions actually on this matchup. We'll 793 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 6: do that when we come back to Dallas Cowboys dot Comrae. 794 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 9: Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the 795 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 9: cheetah Savannah. Todd believed the big Cat repellent he bought 796 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 9: online was reliable, and now Todd is trying to be 797 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 9: faster than this cheetah that can run eighty miles per HOA. 798 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 9: But the good news is Todd has at and T 799 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 9: five G. 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I 848 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 8: just you know, we hear okay, okay, so good alcohol 849 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 8: is not good for you. 850 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 5: It's not. 851 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: It's not until it is especially shaggy. It wasn't mean 852 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: it all right. 853 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 8: I did have something to say though. When you were 854 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 8: talking about the pass rushers for the Cowboys going up 855 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 8: against them, something came to mind. And the early mention 856 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 8: of penalties and getting flags and all that, I started thinking, like, man, 857 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 8: I think I do think this is a game where 858 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 8: the pass rushers can be pretty successful going up against 859 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 8: the Giants. But it came to mind, can this be 860 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 8: a game where now they start getting penalties because they're 861 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 8: going going back to training? Cam Let me just pick 862 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 8: in the picture. You know you can't freaking tackle Dac. 863 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 8: You can't hit the quarterback or anything, so you're restraining yourself. 864 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 8: You get into the first week of the season. These 865 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 8: are very talented guys that we have on defense rushing 866 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 8: the pass right now, They're going full out, going out, 867 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 8: going at it with all their power. And now with 868 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 8: the NFL rules, every time like, oh, gotta don't even 869 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 8: look at the quarterback too much because that's a flag 870 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 8: right there. So you just, I don't know, maybe it's 871 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 8: just me that I'm painting this whole picture of like 872 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 8: our guys just freaking attacking them and then a ref 873 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 8: just throwing a flag every time because you hurt touched 874 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 8: the quarterback a little bit. 875 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 7: Well, you just gotta know how to maintain yourself discipline, 876 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 7: know how to you know, play through the play without 877 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 7: giving that extra that puts you in position where you 878 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 7: can be targeted by the by the officials and getting 879 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 7: those flags thrown. So yeah, I mean, these guys are 880 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 7: ready to go out here and really hit and really 881 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 7: knock some guys around. 882 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 5: But it's been a while. 883 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 7: It's been a while, but I will say, I mean 884 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 7: when you talk about guys like Michael Parsons, de Marcus Lawrence, 885 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 7: I mean these are not guys that are typically penalized heavily. 886 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 7: So when you look at it from that aspect, I 887 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 7: know Sam Williams is trying to, you know, kind of 888 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 7: rein that in. But outside of Sam Williams working to 889 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 7: ring that in, the Cowboys pass rush isn't notorious for 890 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 7: getting those roughing the passer penalties and those unsportsmen like that. 891 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 8: But even like mike'll last I think it might have 892 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 8: been last year maybe, I mean, but I remember knowing 893 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 8: there's always like some are there have been those situations 894 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 8: where he's like, are you freaking kidding me? And he 895 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 8: still gets a fun but it's these are veteran guys. 896 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 8: I get it, and you know they know what to 897 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 8: do and how to do it and all that, but 898 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 8: still those are some things that sometimes are out of 899 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 8: your country. 900 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 3: The official this week in the game is Adrian Hill, 901 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 3: and I need to go and look at Adrian Hill's 902 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: background as far as what we saw last year with 903 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 3: well he does he protect quarterbacks? Does he let the 904 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 3: game go? Does his team? Does his crew call a 905 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: lot of roughing penalties? Do they call holding penalties and 906 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 3: stuff like that? I need to figure that out. But uh, 907 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 3: like I said, it's it's it's a different official from 908 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 3: what you think for a nationally televised game, usually you'll 909 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: catch a Sean Hockley or somebody like that. But Adrian 910 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 3: Hill is going to get an opportunity to and so 911 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 3: we need to study him and maybe Friday tomorrow I'll 912 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 3: have a better idea where that penalty group will go 913 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 3: with that this crew. 914 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: Real quick before we end the show. This is one 915 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: question I want to throw to you. Guys. 916 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 6: We asked a similar question yesterday. Why had you rank 917 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 6: offensive players from least to most important for this week's win. 918 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 6: I want to do the same thing for the defense, 919 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 6: and I have four players I'm gonna throw to you. 920 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 6: I did not purposefully include Michael Parsons, yeah, because I 921 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 6: think that would easily be the top player for all 922 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 6: of us. But going from least to most integral to 923 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 6: the Cowboys defense being successful this weekend, rank these four 924 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 6: DeMarcus Lawrence, Jonathan Hankins, Leyton Vander ash Stefan Gilmore. 925 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 5: I'm going to go with. Let me make sure I 926 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 5: got it right. 927 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 7: So Lawrence Hankins and LV Gilmore Gilmore, that's a good one. 928 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 7: Let me get lv E as as my top I'm 929 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 7: gonna go l V E. Hankins, God you're good at this, 930 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 7: l V. E. Hankins, and let's say tanking then Gilmore 931 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 7: reasoning being LV, when you talk about trying to stop 932 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 7: Sakuon Barkley, you better have linebackers that can cover. 933 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 5: Sideline, the sideline, that bottom line period. 934 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 7: You don't really need much more explanation than that, because 935 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 7: if LVE and DeMont Clark, if they can cover sideline 936 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 7: the sideline and keep Saquon Barkley at or behind the 937 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 7: line of scrimmage to let the other dogs eat, then 938 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 7: that's that's a huge win because again that puts the 939 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 7: game on Daniel Jones, and then that allows Gilmore digs 940 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 7: the secondary to do what they do, but keeping with 941 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley, because again, for me, that's the number one 942 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:49,479 Speaker 7: threat Hankins, that interior run defense. Right if if Brian 943 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 7: Dabo determines that he's not having success in the flats 944 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,959 Speaker 7: and sideline the sideline beating the Cowboys off the age, 945 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 7: because LVE has stepped up and he's really playing that 946 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 7: game and he's going to try to run Saquan up 947 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 7: the A and the B gap. Okay, Will Hankins, if 948 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 7: you have a phenomenal game that deletes that as well, 949 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 7: goes to Mazzie Smith as well, and anyone else that 950 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 7: lines up at that one tech role. Then it goes 951 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 7: to Tank. Now we're talking about the pass rush. Now 952 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 7: that we've eliminated hopefully Sakwon Barkley with your linebackers in 953 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 7: your interior run defense. Now you get the tee off 954 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 7: on the edges, DeMarcus Lawrence because we can't talk about 955 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 7: Michael Parsons. Derek said, we can't. So the edge, you 956 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 7: got Tank teeing off against Evan Neil. He's already shown 957 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 7: he can dismantle that guy. He gets in the backfield, 958 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 7: makes a long day for Daniel Jones. And then when 959 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 7: Daniel Jones, if he's not taken to the ground, if 960 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 7: he does escape and he's keeping his eyes downfield, he 961 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 7: wants to make a play downfield. Now he has to 962 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 7: go up against Diggs Gilmour at that combo, Deron Bland, 963 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 7: Jordan Lewis. 964 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 5: So that's how my rankings shakes out. And damn, you're 965 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 5: really good at this. 966 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 3: So I like that it's smooth dand rush Gilmore Hankins 967 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 3: Lawrence for me, why that, because I feel like, though 968 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 3: you're I think Patrick's right about Lbe. He has to 969 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 3: find a way to play sideline the sidelines in this 970 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 3: in this game, you know, and I think Gilmore on 971 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 3: the outside. We'll see if they want to attack. If 972 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 3: they don't go at Diggs, who will they go at 973 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 3: these receivers. They feel like that they can make some 974 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 3: place down the field. I feel like you've got to 975 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 3: be able to cover that way. Hankins is a guy, 976 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 3: like I say, that could clog up things going inside, 977 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 3: you know, and help also LV with the running game. 978 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 3: To me, it's as much as I love Lawrence on 979 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: the edge rush and I think there's other options to 980 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 3: rush as well. So I'm going to put the rush. 981 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 3: I think the rush is going to fall on some 982 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 3: other guys the run stopping and to fall on Hankins 983 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 3: and Lve and but most importantly they're going to need 984 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 3: to cover. I think the Giants are going to try 985 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 3: and throw the football in this game, and even though 986 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 3: the Cowboys pass rush is good, so I think that's 987 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 3: on Gilmour to make some coverage. 988 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 8: I think a lot of these they're very interchangeable. But 989 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 8: if I had to look at of one specific guy, 990 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 8: and I agree with you guys as far as everything 991 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 8: you've said about Layton just because you look at everybodybody 992 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 8: else and you feel like, imagine if one single player 993 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 8: was out I think the one area because of the 994 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 8: lack of death behind it, it would have to be Leyton, 995 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 8: vander Esh and everybody else. You still have talent, and 996 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 8: I mean Gilmore you need him, but I think if 997 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 8: you're taking up care of business up front, that should 998 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 8: help for what's happening with the defensive backs. So but yeah, 999 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 8: everything you guys said retweet repost. 1000 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 6: I'm sure kind of interested that you guys didn't put 1001 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 6: Hankins first. And the reason why I would have put 1002 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 6: Hankins first is similar what you guys are saying with 1003 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 6: regards to the run defense. Yes, I need Leyden Vandersh 1004 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 6: to cover the field sideline the sideline. I think that's 1005 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 6: infinitely easier when you got a defensive tackle that keeps 1006 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 6: that those offensive linemen off of you to allow you 1007 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 6: to run sideline the sideline. So I think Leydon vander 1008 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 6: Esh's ability to play this game really well will depend 1009 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 6: on how much can Steve defensive front keep those guys 1010 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 6: from getting to the second level. 1011 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 3: The Marcus Lawrence's game as a run defender might be 1012 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 3: more important than that's because if you get Hankins, if 1013 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 3: you get Hankins going holding blocks and especially against the 1014 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 3: inside guys that are having problems blocking him, I think 1015 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 3: that's a that's a good matchup for the Cowboys vander 1016 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 3: esh on the run if and then you've got Lords 1017 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 3: playing on the run too, you know, And and I 1018 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 3: think that the Giants are going to try and run 1019 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 3: the ball on the edges. I think the end point 1020 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 3: you know, they're going to make, They're going to see 1021 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 3: who is going to play right defensive end. There's gonna 1022 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 3: be a lot of left handed runs for the Giants. 1023 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 3: They're going to test whoever your right end is. And 1024 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 3: they're going to see where, in fact, where Diggs is 1025 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 3: as far as how physical he wants to play in 1026 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 3: this game. People have had some success running the ball 1027 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 3: to the Cowboys right and the offenses left, so we'll 1028 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 3: see how that'll holds up. 1029 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 7: Also, my thought process, and that's why I had Hankins 1030 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 7: as my number two behind LV and it's because I'm 1031 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 7: confident in feeling that the bow is going to try 1032 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 7: to run Barkley off the edges and put him in 1033 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 7: space out in the flats first. That's he's going to 1034 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 7: test the linebackers early to see if they can cover 1035 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 7: in space. 1036 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 3: Their ability to. 1037 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 6: Do that is going to be also about can those 1038 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 6: defensive tackles keep them off the second level. What we 1039 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 6: know about Leyden vander Esh is Laydon vander Esh will 1040 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 6: play really great football if he's not always having one 1041 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 6: of those offensive linemen on him. 1042 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 3: Dallas Dallas should win inside, Yeah, Dallas should win inside him. 1043 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 6: Become much better linebackers. By the way, you can probably 1044 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 6: go across the entire league. Linebackers are better linebackers when 1045 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 6: they don't have offensive linemen in their face. So if 1046 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 6: you got a better defensive tackle in front of you, 1047 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 6: you're going to be better as a linebacker. 1048 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 1049 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 7: I think it's just the thought process of opportunities, right, 1050 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 7: Who's going to be attacked early and more often? And 1051 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 7: I think that based on their scheme, the New York 1052 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 7: Giants scheme, they're going to attack the linebackers early and 1053 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 7: more often. Then they would give Hankins an opportunity to 1054 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 7: be dominant in the game early. So that's why I 1055 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 7: have lve over Hankins because obviously both are important for 1056 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 7: those reasons. But my scale slides more towards the linebacker 1057 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 7: simply because I feel like before they test Hankins, they're 1058 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,879 Speaker 7: going to test the linebackers and lv E and they're 1059 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 7: gonna do that more frequently before they If lv E 1060 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,919 Speaker 7: can you know, continue to play well, then they'll say, Okay, 1061 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 7: well we're not really winning on these edges. Let's at 1062 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 7: least try the inside. And that's when they run up again. 1063 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 3: If you listed Curse, I would have put him second 1064 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 3: because of what Waller is gonna do. 1065 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. 1066 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 6: After as I was reading the question, I thought to myself, 1067 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 6: I should have thrown because Curse would have been even better. 1068 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 2: Because I agree with you. 1069 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 10: I may. 1070 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: If I would have had him in there, but that 1071 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 2: was my miss. All Right, we apprecid. You guys join us. 1072 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 6: We'll be back tomorrow. We'll wrap this whole thing up. 1073 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 6: Let you guys know what wething's gonna happen this weekend. 1074 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 3: Until then. 1075 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 6: For Brian brought us, Patrick Walker, Ambergarcia. I am Derek Helton. 1076 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 6: This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 1077 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 6: Com Radio. 1078 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1079 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club