WEBVTT - Hour 2-  Doug Gottlieb & Dan Beyer Guest Hosting

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>And we can get into the nepotism discussion at some

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<v Speaker 2>point this hour, because I do think that sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nepotism is obviously a derogatory term, but there is there

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<v Speaker 2>is something too, Dan, the fact that, for example, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get my job at Green Bay because of nepotism,

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<v Speaker 2>but I grew up in a household. My dad was

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<v Speaker 2>a coach, my brother became a coach, like basketball is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what we do, and so I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we look at this in some sort of like nefarious

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<v Speaker 2>connotation that you grew up in the family business. Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>Shanahan's dad even work right away for his dad. But

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Shanahan's a dude that's turned out to be pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty good at his job, and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>we could go through it. Does it's not necessarily a

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<v Speaker 2>prerequisite for everybody, but doesn't hurt you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny you did say earlier in the show, you

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about how embarrassing some people were in trying

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<v Speaker 3>to justify it. Even though I don't agree with the

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<v Speaker 3>people who say that it's okay it's nepotism, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the Lakers should have drafted Bronnie James,

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<v Speaker 3>but nonither here nor there. I at least respect them

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<v Speaker 3>being honest with the decision. It's the people who are

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<v Speaker 3>trying to convince us that there is a basketball reason

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<v Speaker 3>on why Bronnie James went number fifty five, which is

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<v Speaker 3>what you touched on earlier. But for those that are

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<v Speaker 3>saying like, yeah, it's nepotism, it happens all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>This doesn't bother me. I actually can respect that a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot more of the people trying to convince me

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<v Speaker 3>why this is a great move for the Lakers on

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<v Speaker 3>the court.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like, look, there is something too and we

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<v Speaker 2>always you know, like harken back to the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy Boy is a movie, and I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that in basketball, when you're the coach's son, it's usually

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more difficult. You know, you're held to a

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<v Speaker 2>higher standard. That's just the reality of it. When you're

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<v Speaker 2>a star player's son. Yeah, I mean, doors get open

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<v Speaker 2>for you. But I do think that people can judge

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<v Speaker 2>you more harshly as well. This one, though, is just

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<v Speaker 2>it's a weird one because everyone seems to be scared

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<v Speaker 2>to tell lebron James the truth. You know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Paul George comparing him to Drew Holiday. How they both

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<v Speaker 2>played in the same league in high school, and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess they're both you know mc donald's all Americans, But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Drew Holiday is one of the best high

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<v Speaker 2>school prospects I've ever evaluated ever. They just dominated the

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<v Speaker 2>game in a way I both ends with grace and

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<v Speaker 2>skill and intelligence. And like Bronnie James is a nice player.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see one high school game that he dominated,

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<v Speaker 2>And there wasn't a high school game that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see Drew Holiday dominate. Their impact at their schools, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know Drew came off the bench because Darren Collison State,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it, comparing the two of them is offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only reason that that I think a Paul

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<v Speaker 2>George would do that is because you're trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who, you know, the best things he does

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<v Speaker 2>you can't quantify with stats. You know, you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>his defense is great, and he's his defense is better

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<v Speaker 2>than his offense. It's a little bit like saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>her personality, right, but like, let's let's not let's not

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<v Speaker 2>compare it with.

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<v Speaker 3>You a holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just not do that that that makes you sound

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<v Speaker 2>like you've never seen either play at the same age

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<v Speaker 2>they are. They're both African American, they both played in

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<v Speaker 2>the Mission League, and I guess they're both technically McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>all Americans. That's where it ends. That's where it ends.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this story and I just I want to

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<v Speaker 2>have a discussion about it because this is Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>Show on Fox Sports Tradio. For people don't listen to

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports Radio outside of Dan, which I understand. Dan's

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<v Speaker 2>a legend. I grow I've listened to him. I've worked

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<v Speaker 2>with him at two different networks now obviously, But if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't, my afternoon show's called The Doug Gottlieb Show

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Sports Radio from three to five Easter and

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<v Speaker 2>we also have an our podcast. Dan Bayer is alongside

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<v Speaker 2>today and of course he's part of my show as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he has his own show on Sundays right

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports Radio. And I bring that up

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<v Speaker 2>because do you do you buy the Sunday ticket when

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<v Speaker 2>you have, you know, all the games in front of

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<v Speaker 2>you at work, or do you not buy it to

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<v Speaker 2>save the money. Then it's coming to work IM.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch home, so I had previously bought it and then

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<v Speaker 3>even during COVID had it at home, and before I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing the Sunday show, I had it. But once

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<v Speaker 3>I've you know, been now in the studio here and

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<v Speaker 3>COVID's over with, I have not subscribed the last year

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<v Speaker 3>or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've been a Sunday Ticket subscriber for the last

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<v Speaker 2>I would say probably, I mean twenty years. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many people know this, do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You guys know, do we have this discussion on where

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<v Speaker 2>who invented like Sunday Ticket, like where it all came from?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. Really, yeah, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Shanks, okay, who's the CEO and executive broducer of

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports. He he was in Europe and they took

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<v Speaker 2>him to this place and they basically had a hub

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't remember well recall what it was called,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had a Sunday ticket like for international soccer,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a room when you walked in and

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<v Speaker 2>there's like, you know, eight different matches going on, and

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<v Speaker 2>you had the broadcast and they're literally headphones on they're

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<v Speaker 2>calling the matches off their TV and they pap a

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<v Speaker 2>guy on the shoulder and they would throw to his

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<v Speaker 2>game and then he'd you know, he'd take it to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what was going on with Liverpool, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're on the pitch right, and then let's slow

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<v Speaker 2>this to Real Madrid and now, thank you about much ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Real Madrid's it right. So that's how it. That's so

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<v Speaker 2>he took the model. He brought it back to the States.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe he worked for Direct TV at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and they created the red Zone.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the red Zone. Okay, I got ya. I'm thought

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<v Speaker 3>you meant the whole package of just airing the games,

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<v Speaker 3>but our red zone was developed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just the idea of just the idea of throwing

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<v Speaker 2>from game to game to game. Because I okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you had it for a long time. What percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of times did you watch red Zone? Which percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>time did you just stick with one game?

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<v Speaker 3>I am I am the rarity where I was not

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<v Speaker 3>a red zone watcher. Whether it was our buddy Andrews

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<v Speaker 3>Ciciliano or if it was Scott Hansen, I was not

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<v Speaker 3>a red zone guy. I was watching the games and

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<v Speaker 3>going back and forth or even maybe at times watching

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<v Speaker 3>the mixed channel with all the games on at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jason Stewart, are you a mixed guy or you

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<v Speaker 2>were you a red zone guy or an individual individual guy?

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<v Speaker 5>I think I got the DirecTV Sunday ticket once in

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<v Speaker 5>my entire career once, and then I realized I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>watching a tiny percentage of these games. Red Zone consumes

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<v Speaker 5>my Sundays and it has for many years. That's all

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<v Speaker 5>I do for the ten o'clock Pacific time games and

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<v Speaker 5>the one o'clock Pacific time dames is basically all red

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<v Speaker 5>Zone and a lot of that is because of Fantasy, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we all have to do work on Sundays

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<v Speaker 5>and pay attention, but Fantasy the best way to follow

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<v Speaker 5>your team is on the red zone.

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<v Speaker 2>So a jury in Los Angeles, the US District Court

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<v Speaker 2>ordered the NFL to pay more than four point seven

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars in damages Thursday, after ruling that the league

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<v Speaker 2>violated antitrust laws in distributing out of market Sunday afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>games on a premium subscription service. The jury awarded four

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<v Speaker 2>point seven billion in damages to the residential class and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety six million in damages to the commercial class. Since

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<v Speaker 2>damages can be tripled under federal an trust laws. The

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<v Speaker 2>NFL could end up being liable for fourteen point thirty

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<v Speaker 2>nine billion dollars. Now, the lawsuit covered two point four

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<v Speaker 2>million residential subscribers. That's amazing that only two point four

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<v Speaker 2>million people on average. Hat it. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>thought everybody had red zone and forty eight thousand businesses

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States who paid for the package of

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<v Speaker 2>out of market games for the two from the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eleven through the twenty twenty two seasons on direct TV.

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<v Speaker 2>The laws who claimed the league broke anti trust laws

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<v Speaker 2>by selling its packages of Sunday games at an inflated prices.

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<v Speaker 2>Subscribers or subscribers also say the league restricted competition by

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<v Speaker 2>offering Sunday ticket only on a satellite provider. The NFL

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<v Speaker 2>office is going to fight it now here. Here's my question, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand this at all, and we need to

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<v Speaker 2>get we need to get I have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer friends. I'm gonna call them. I don't understand. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want the package and it's too expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>well don't buy the package. Do you violate anti trust

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<v Speaker 2>laws if you drive up the price of your your

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<v Speaker 2>tickets at your stadium or parking at your stadium. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I've never really heard like it is a free

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<v Speaker 2>market society. And oh yeah, by the way, the reason

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<v Speaker 2>that they restricted the petition was they paid a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of money in order to broadcast the Sunday ticket and

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<v Speaker 2>so to make up for that money spent, and then

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<v Speaker 2>to make money to keep the lights on, you had

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<v Speaker 2>to charge absorbent fees for it. And oh yeah, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, the other truth to it is and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know, like last year was expensive. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>watch it nearly as much as I wanted to on

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube TV. But you can watch it obviously in

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<v Speaker 2>your phone, so much easier. It's still a bargain.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I okay, Like, listen, we grew up. You grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in Wisconsin. So on a Sunday when you're a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>what games were on?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the Packers were on, they stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers went, and the Packers were bad. What if

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<v Speaker 2>there's another NFC game you want to watch, couldn't watch

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<v Speaker 2>it right at the same time?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you were blocked in by your local So

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<v Speaker 2>this allowed you to watch anybody anywhere at any time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then oh yeah, by the way, like if you

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<v Speaker 2>compare that to what it would cost to go watch

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<v Speaker 2>a game, you know, or what it would cost to

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<v Speaker 2>have multiple satellites or you know, you can't watch multiple chants, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that much money, truly, isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand what you're saying in terms of if you

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<v Speaker 3>want it, you'll pay enough for it. The two problems

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<v Speaker 3>that I see are Number One, the NFL in their

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<v Speaker 3>argument was they were also protecting CBS and Fox that

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<v Speaker 3>they wanted more people to go to their broadcast, especially

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<v Speaker 3>in the late window. I would say that's where they

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<v Speaker 3>get their biggest clears. Usually that's where you'll see, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys and forty nine Ers and the Chiefs and

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals playing in those four to twenty five Eastern Time

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<v Speaker 3>kickoff games. They wanted to maximize that. But did it

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<v Speaker 3>really cost three hundred and fifty dollars to put this

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<v Speaker 3>all on? Could you have given your fans the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>for two hundred was two hundred two low that you

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<v Speaker 3>thought that maybe then they wouldn't take in. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that it was in Goodell's argument of saying, the

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<v Speaker 3>fans want more football, this is why we went to

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<v Speaker 3>a seventeenth game. The fans want more football. Well, apparently

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<v Speaker 3>you're not willing to give it to them unless they

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<v Speaker 3>pay this crazy amount of money to see all of

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<v Speaker 3>these games. So he's talking on on one side of

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<v Speaker 3>his mouth and saying this is why we should expand

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<v Speaker 3>for more money, and then on the other side of

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<v Speaker 3>his mouth we're saying, well, then we're going to charge

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<v Speaker 3>so much, so if fans really want to watch more football,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to have to pay this much. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's mixed messaging on that point and just not taking

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<v Speaker 3>care of your of your really your main product, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's your fan base that has made every single football

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<v Speaker 3>episode a top fifty program for how many years?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so there's a little contradiction in what you're saying. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to protect Network TV and they succeeded in

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<v Speaker 2>doing so. Meanwhile, they did charge you an arm and

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<v Speaker 2>a leg for those of us who are football fanatics

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<v Speaker 2>who want to watch all the games, and they made

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<v Speaker 2>money with that. And by the way, just so you're

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<v Speaker 2>just so aware, I mean, like, look, some of this

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<v Speaker 2>comes down to the NFL charged such a high a

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<v Speaker 2>dollar amount for the broadcast rights of Red Zone and

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday Ticket. Okay that it really bled bled at and

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<v Speaker 2>t dry, right. I mean it's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>they let the package go and it went to YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>was it was just too expensive. But it all worked,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody's making money. The stadiums are full, people watch TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand it all worked. And if people don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to pay it, then don't pay it. You still

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<v Speaker 2>got your free TV. I don't understand how you can

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<v Speaker 2>get something which is an extra benefit and you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's too expensive. Like no, I mean, look do I

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<v Speaker 2>this is? This is? Can we go through Chipotle and

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<v Speaker 2>all these other places that charge absorbinent fees for an

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<v Speaker 2>avocado for avocado? Right? If you don't want avocado, don't

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<v Speaker 2>get avocado. You know avocado is extra. Did you know

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<v Speaker 2>how Vocado's extra of I know avocado?

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<v Speaker 3>Nobod I could also go to the store and buy

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<v Speaker 3>avocados until.

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<v Speaker 2>You get I remember you no, no, no, no, you go

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<v Speaker 2>home and watch You can watch the NFL. You just

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<v Speaker 2>can't watch the game that you select. There's no world

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<v Speaker 2>in which you can't watch with rabbit years. If you

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<v Speaker 2>still have rabbit eears, you can still watch the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the exact same thing. I mean, Look, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make any sense to me that oat milk I get

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<v Speaker 2>oat milk in my coffee. Oat milk should is cost

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same amount, if not, in some places, less

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<v Speaker 2>than dairy. I work for the state of Wisconsin. The

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<v Speaker 2>should mention that I do that might have been that

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<v Speaker 2>might have been a colossal mistake. I do love cheese. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love cheese. I just oh man, I just, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't coached the game yet. I just I just

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<v Speaker 2>took an ol. Anyway, The point is like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't make sense to me, right that if I

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<v Speaker 2>get If I go get coffee at any local coffe

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<v Speaker 2>place and I get oat milk, somehow, it's more expect

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<v Speaker 2>when oat milk costs the exact same amount as dairy,

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same, in many ways less money than dry.

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I paying? But I gook, that's the choice

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<v Speaker 2>I make. I can still have coffee, I can still

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<v Speaker 2>have milk in it, or I can have oat milk

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<v Speaker 2>in my house and pour it in. But if I

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<v Speaker 2>want to pay the seventy five cents extra. You gotta

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<v Speaker 2>put a little oat milk in so I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can still watch. No one stopped you from watching

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<v Speaker 2>NFL football. This was a special package for those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who are insane football fans who have multiple fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>football teams, as as Jason Stewart talked about, who want

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<v Speaker 2>to watch an out of the market game, who want

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<v Speaker 2>to watch you know, the the rare you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>rare Charger fan who wanted to watch the Chargers like

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<v Speaker 2>me when you're living, you know, in New England, which

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<v Speaker 2>I did at the time, So I'm watching like every

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<v Speaker 2>Charger game. Okay, So you gotta pay a little extra,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't want to pay extra, then you

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<v Speaker 2>don't pay extra. If it gets too expensive, then don't

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But if ESPN is saying seventy bucks versus three hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is I mean, that's that's not just a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more. It almost feels like it's the medication thing, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, if you need your diabetes medicine, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you could charge whatever for insulin, but it's kind to

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<v Speaker 3>be at some point be affordable, right, I mean, like

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's what it feels like the NFL is taking

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<v Speaker 3>I got, I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is and it isn't like seventeen weeks at three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty bucks. Like you can't. You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pay twenty bucks a week to watch every every NFL game.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to get off your couch, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to go to a stadium, you know. Like they

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<v Speaker 2>also have to protect the people coming into the games.

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<v Speaker 2>May get special for people to come into games. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing about how easy the ease of use.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the what what's the reason that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like going to NFL games? I mean I last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years, I go to Charger games. I always

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<v Speaker 2>go to Sunday night and Monday night games, specifically, I

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<v Speaker 2>never go to the four o'clock starts. Why because then

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<v Speaker 2>you can't watch any other games. You miss everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have to kind of protect the games as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I just this is one which it's gonna get kicked

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<v Speaker 2>to a judge, and the judge is gonna give them

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<v Speaker 2>a favorable ruling. They're not paying it this money. That

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<v Speaker 2>just and I understand it does get more and more

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<v Speaker 2>and more and more expensive, but so has everything else

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<v Speaker 2>so and the ESPN thing, like, yeah, they could charge

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<v Speaker 2>seventy bucks. ESPN also makes what nine dollars a sub

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they make nine hours of so they're already

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<v Speaker 2>making money and they can charge a little bit less

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<v Speaker 2>because they're like Costco. Right, they sell everything in bulk. So,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, ESPN down to seventy million subs, that

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<v Speaker 2>is a low number. That's an interesting discussion for another

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<v Speaker 2>NBA draft as it did conclude the two day NBA draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark stein joins us. Of course he's an NBA insider.

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<v Speaker 2>He publishes a substack called the Steinlein Plus. He hosts

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing podcast it's called This League Uncut with fellow

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<v Speaker 2>insider Chris Haynes, you can find it where you find podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Steany the two day Draft? Are we gonna keep doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because outside of the Brownie James faux drama, not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of reasons to watch Day two for those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who aren't those other people who aren't massive heads.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look, there's going to be a lot of discussion

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<v Speaker 4>obviously about execution and you know, doing it in a

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<v Speaker 4>separate studio and having no crowd for the second round picks.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I certainly didn't like any of that, but

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<v Speaker 4>I am a fan of the two day draft. Doing

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<v Speaker 4>it all in one day is a really long process.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the first round just takes so long. And

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<v Speaker 4>I totally disagree with the notion that there's no interest

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, this is this is my audience. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean in interest in every two way contract, every injury update,

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<v Speaker 4>every anything in the NBA is ravenous. So I do

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<v Speaker 4>not believe that there's not enough interest to have the

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<v Speaker 4>draft on a second day. I didn't like a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the execution elements, but I think it definitely should

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<v Speaker 4>continue because that to do it to stuff picks into

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<v Speaker 4>one day, and then there's the frenzy always right after

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<v Speaker 4>the draft about you know, guys who didn't get drafted

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<v Speaker 4>and where they're going to go for two ways and

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<v Speaker 4>camp deals and stuff. Really it's just way too much

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<v Speaker 4>to put into one day. So I maybe, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously I am an extreme hoop head, but I hope

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<v Speaker 4>it continues.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the real question maybe be should it be televised? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's and obviously ESPN has a value for it.

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<v Speaker 3>But to what Mark is saying, and Doug, to what

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying, it's almost a question of there seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be a need for it for the hoop heads and

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<v Speaker 3>those that live and die with it and the front

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<v Speaker 3>offices that want it. But if you don't have Bronnie

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<v Speaker 3>James in there for the final thirty picks, how much

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<v Speaker 3>does it? Does it work across the board? In what

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<v Speaker 3>is you know, broadcasting? I guess that would be I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, maybe put it on NBA TV. Who knows?

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<v Speaker 4>What is it keeping off television? Though? I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, like, what's the harm in it? I

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, like a that I am. I And look,

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<v Speaker 4>I've maybe I've been in the minority on this from

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<v Speaker 4>the start. I know, when it was first discussed way

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<v Speaker 4>back at the start of the season. I threw it

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<v Speaker 4>out to my readers and more than I expected said

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<v Speaker 4>they weren't looking forward to it. But like you know, again,

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<v Speaker 4>I live in this world where you know this is.

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<v Speaker 4>I just finished my thirty first season, and I could

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<v Speaker 4>just tell you that the interest in every little transaction,

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<v Speaker 4>it only goes up more and more and more. The

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<v Speaker 4>NBA was not like this when I started.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I listen, it's it's totally fair Steinning and

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<v Speaker 2>I did the draft for twelve years. I actually got

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<v Speaker 2>my stats started ESPN in the two thousand and three

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<v Speaker 2>NBA draft, right, and because I'd played against Darko twice

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<v Speaker 2>and so I get it, and the and the second

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<v Speaker 2>round was it was a joke. It was so fast

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<v Speaker 2>and so furious, and so many trades and no one knew.

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<v Speaker 2>So I agree with you on the execute of it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like why are you having stephen A up there? And

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<v Speaker 2>WOJ has to be up there for all the moves,

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<v Speaker 2>But you have to have the Bobby Marxs of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that explain like what all these deals are

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<v Speaker 2>and how they're doing it and can't take time. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can't move it to a live audience because nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come watch, right, That's like, why did they do

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<v Speaker 2>it in the studio because they probably didn't think anybody's

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<v Speaker 2>showing up to an arena. They're just not There's just

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<v Speaker 2>not the level of interest. Is there international interest?

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<v Speaker 4>Then I think they can find a different venue, a

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<v Speaker 4>smaller venue, and people would go. Because there are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of fans who are priced out of games, who

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<v Speaker 4>are priced out of going to the big show first

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<v Speaker 4>round NBA Draft. I don't believe that. I think there

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<v Speaker 4>is a live audience that would attend. And again I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just telling you guys from my own personal experience. I

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<v Speaker 4>got my start covering the NBA because way back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day, nobody went to Summer League. The writers covering

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<v Speaker 4>the league didn't even want to go to Summer League.

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<v Speaker 4>It was that small of a thing. And now to

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<v Speaker 4>see what Summer League is in Vegas. Summer League in

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<v Speaker 4>Vegas is its own industry unto itself. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I do not I do not buy that it that

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<v Speaker 4>it cannot be compelling Tellovision. It wasn't yesterday, but you

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<v Speaker 4>could do it a lot better.

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<v Speaker 3>I would also argue I guess to Mark's point, the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL the day three. I mean, there's maybe a random

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<v Speaker 3>college football guy that we all know of. Otherwise you're

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<v Speaker 3>just looking for your own team or school. But anybody

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<v Speaker 3>that's hanging out at the draft really doesn't care that

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<v Speaker 3>the third round is actually going on on that Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never understood guy who goes to draft draft.

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<v Speaker 5>To be.

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<v Speaker 2>At it like why why why NFL draft? It feels

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<v Speaker 2>a little different. But even that, like two hundred and

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand people, it's like why Mark Stein Joints is? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>What you've also been somebody who, through your time covering

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<v Speaker 2>has seen the influx of international people. Are we seeing

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<v Speaker 2>a sea change before or the NBA talent is coming.

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<v Speaker 4>From I don't feel like it's a sea change to

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 4>people within the league, but I think it's certainly getting

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 4>more and more attention outside the league, and maybe people

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 4>are going to start to realize this. But I mean

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, the last several years. You know, one

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 4>of my favorite things when the season starts every October

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 4>is to get that email from the league when they

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 4>counted up for you and how many international players are

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 4>on opening night rosters and it's it's in the one

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 4>twenty range every year now and this is only a

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 4>league that you know, with two ways now we can

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 4>get over four hundred and fifty players, but I mean

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 4>five hundred players, and you know more than more than

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 4>a hundred are are from are not from the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, there are no secrets in basketball. He's

0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:02.360
<v Speaker 4>got you know, it's players, no matter where they are playing,

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 4>are known to NBA teams in their teams, I mean

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 4>the league. The league scours the globe and is incredibly

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 4>aware of where to find players, and they will go

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 4>anywhere to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Did anybody seriously consider outside of the Lakers taking Bronnie James,

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<v Speaker 3>was there any any maybe could be an option at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think there's I don't think there's any

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 4>question about it. Look, Phoenix's interest was very well known.

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 4>I live in Dallas. I know the Mavericks were interested.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 4>But it becomes a thing where you know, obviously Rich

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Paul wanted Ronnie James in the in LA with the Lakers,

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 4>and so if you're a team with interests, I mean,

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.640
<v Speaker 4>I you know he's he's I do not find it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, had he been taken in the first round,

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 4>as some people were suggesting. No, that would have been

0:25:55.920 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 4>outrageous based on what we've seen from him to this case.

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:04.119
<v Speaker 4>But the fact that someone would take a second round

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 4>flyer on him in a draft that is not considered

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 4>a good one. I mean, I've heard executives complain about

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 4>the options in this draft for months, so you know,

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 4>the notion that he was he was always going to

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 4>go in the second round. But you know, there are

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 4>certain agents who have the ability to steer their guys

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<v Speaker 4>to teams when they want to. This is certainly, you know,

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 4>not even close to the first time it's ever happened,

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 4>and so if you're a team with interest, you have

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 4>to decide do I really want to get sideways with

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 4>an agent who has other players that we would like

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:45.239
<v Speaker 4>to sign. And so it became apparent that once this

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 4>process got underway that he was going to end up

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 4>with the Lakers.

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 2>JJ Reik is obviously new head coach the Lakers. They

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 2>have Dalton Connect who apparently he's been doodling on pin

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 2>downs for Dalton Connect. I mean, the whole thing is

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 2>just dumb, with the la narrative that they're putting out there.

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>But whatever, What are they going to do to fix

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>the roster?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you're right, that is the most important issue, and

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think they're thrilled to get connected at seventeen.

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 4>And look, you know, as I always tell you, you know,

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 4>I am not monitoring the college game closely, but that

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 4>seems to be a widely praised pick to be able

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 4>to get a player who accomplished what he did in

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 4>college at seventeen. But they still, you know, they cannot

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 4>do anything meaningful trade wise unless they want to trade

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 4>Austin Reeves, and the consistent messaging has been that they

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 4>don't want to trade Austin Reeves. So I don't at

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 4>this point foresee a major major trade. Can they make

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 4>some upgrades around the edges? I think that's what they're

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 4>going to have to go for and rely on internal improvement.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's worrisome because we just saw a season

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>where Lebron and Ad were on the floor more than

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 4>we've seen in their time together as teammates and didn't

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 4>really make any difference. So can they you know, that's

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 4>that's as much a question is what can they do

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 4>with the roster? Can Lebron, who turns forty in December

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 4>and Anthony Davis. Can they stay on the court as

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<v Speaker 4>much as we just saw?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I mean the likely the likelihood of that

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 2>happening again is remote, and and you know, and the

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<v Speaker 2>the outlier was what they were able to do in

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs two years ago because Memphis was hurt and

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>they had a good matchup with Golden State, right, and

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 2>then they get swept away and the West is getting

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>better and they're getting older outside of Austin Reeves. Will

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>they be better coach? I don't think they could be

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>worse coach than they were last year. I don't think

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Darvin Ham has any idea what he's doing. I think

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>he was a bad fit for the UH, for that team,

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>for that roster, mostly for Lebron James, who is exceptionally

0:28:55.480 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>bright and demands prepperedness and intelligence in his coaches. Happened

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 2>he didn't think he got it from from from Darvinham.

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>So I get all that, but coaching can only do

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>so much. This is a league where the best players

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>are always in the NBA Finals or Western Conference finals

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and their best players are getting older, and

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 2>they're coming off of year. As you point out that

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>they're healthy It's a that's a hard one, right where

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you do you hang on Oustereves? You not hang on Oustereves?

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what what what? What'd you do? What?

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 2>What about? They can't run, they can't get rid of

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 2>D'Angel Russell. Nobody wants to take that deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first Dangel Russell has to make a decision about

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 4>opting in or opting out. And then if he opted in,

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, presumably they could trade him. But it's not

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 4>like there's going to be a robust trade market for

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 4>di'angelo Russell. It's a very tradable contract. So is there

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 4>some help they can find if that's the route they

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 4>decide to take. But they might just decide, you know what,

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 4>we're not gonna be able to get a difference maker,

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 4>So do we just run it back with the team

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 4>we have and again, you know, pursue the best, best

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 4>around the edges moves that they can. And remember, you know,

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 4>last summer the Lakers got a lot of praise for

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 4>those type of moves, the small fill in the roster

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 4>moves they made, and then very few of them actually

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 4>panned out. They looked good in July and August, and

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 4>it didn't play out that way. So I mean, you're

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 4>absolutely right. I mean I would I would push back

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.959
<v Speaker 4>on the Darvinham thus to some degree because you know,

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 4>I think he was especially in year one, this team

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 4>goes to the Western Conference Finals, and remember it's the

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 4>start was terrible, I think too, and ten in year

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 4>one for Darvinham oho and five and two and ten,

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 4>and that thing looked like an absolute disaster. And I

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 4>thought he provided a leadership and a stability. And you know,

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 4>the coach of today and the coach in today's NBA

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 4>is more than ever the team spokesman. They have to

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 4>speak to the media several times the day, and I

0:30:55.280 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 4>just thought Darvinham provided a lot of deal in that position.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 4>And when things were going really, really bad for the

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Lakers last season, obviously he lost the faith from his

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 4>main two guys. As the season we're on, and there's

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 4>no disputing that. But you know, I think, you know,

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 4>Starvinham getting helping the Lakers reach the conference finals in

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 4>year one should not be overlooked. But where I do

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 4>agree with you is the state of the West. I mean,

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 4>the West was an absolute monster and it is only

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 4>getting better because even at the bottom, we know San

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Antonio is going to be a tougher out in year

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 4>two for Wembin Yama. You know, Portland just made a

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 4>very nice move to add Denny Afdia. You know they

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 4>will be better to a degree. In Memphis, you would

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 4>expect them to bounce back. Houston has such big ambition

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 4>to try to go out and get a front line player.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 4>You know, they're very active in the off season trade

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 4>market and what they're trying to do. So yeah, I

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 4>mean the West is just as as stacked as it's

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 4>ever been.

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 3>And the Phoenix Suns in Matteshpia released the statement on

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 3>the Durant rumors with the Rockets. How I guess how

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 3>long or what is the expiration date of that statement

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 3>of support, Like, at what point do the Suns maybe

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 3>make a decision on Durant if it's not going to

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 3>be right now?

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, what happens on the court will tell us that.

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the Suns feel like last year was a

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 4>disaster because they, you know, Durant, Booker and Beal if

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 4>my memory is correct, they only ended up on the

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 4>court together in forty one regular season games, exactly half

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 4>the season. You can't do that and expect to have

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 4>any kind of playoff continuity, and especially when you know

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 4>the three of them, there are already concerns about fit

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 4>and can you build a defense around these guys? And

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 4>they all want to operate in the mid range at

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 4>a time when the three point shot and just getting

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 4>off three point shots three point volume is as important

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 4>in the NBA as making them, And so there are

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 4>all these questions and they didn't have a season even

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.719
<v Speaker 4>to work on it. So the Sons want to believe

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 4>that with a new coach, with Mike Budenholzer coming in

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 4>with a full season of better health, that they can

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 4>be a factor. But look, I totally am with you.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 4>The skepticism is there and undeniable, and the questions are

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 4>still there. Can you really build a defense when those

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 4>are your three main guys? And the Sons, because they've

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 4>spent so much on putting the three of them together,

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 4>they're so far into the luxury tax, they don't have

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 4>the mechanism to really change the team and bring in defenders.

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 4>They have to re sign Roys O'Neil because they have

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 4>no way to even replace him if they lose Roys

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:50.719
<v Speaker 4>O'Neil in free agency. So yeah, the skepticism is undeniable.

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 4>And if things if the Suns have another half season

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 4>like they just had this season, I mean they you know,

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 4>the pressure on them will out. And look, their phone

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 4>is going to ring, whether they want it or not,

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 4>not if it can say anything he wants to. But

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 4>if there are teams out there interested in Kevin Durant

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 4>and I don't think there's any question that the Rockets

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 4>fall into that category, they will test the Sun's results.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Stein, you want to know what's going on the NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So again, coming off of last night's debate, a

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<v Speaker 2>Dan the dual role of dual role of debater and moderator.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a role that I take with a lot of gratitude,

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<v Speaker 3>but also I understand the importance of it, so this

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<v Speaker 3>is not lost on me. Doug. Just to recap, you

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<v Speaker 3>three were on the Jordan's side of the of the

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron Jordan Goats debate. I took Lebron and then we

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<v Speaker 3>were split. Doug and I went Bird, and then Joel

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<v Speaker 3>and Jason went Magic, and the Magic Bird debate. We

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<v Speaker 3>stick with the NBA Bulls dynasty or Warriors dynasty. Doug

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<v Speaker 3>on that debate, where do you stand? Because that's where

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<v Speaker 3>what we want to know in these debates. Where do

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<v Speaker 3>you stand?

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls dynasty? Bulls dynasty? I mean six and zero in

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA Finals. Granted, you know they did have Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>when they lost to the Ortlanta Magic in the Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>Conference Finals the year he came off of Baseball War

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<v Speaker 2>forty five, but the the sheer dominans never went to

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<v Speaker 2>a seventh game. I'm not holding it against the Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>that they added Kevin Durant, nor am I giving them

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<v Speaker 2>a break because they had all this, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>rash of injuries with KD and then Clay going down

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<v Speaker 2>in their last NBA Finals with that group, and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course coming back and winning a couple years later.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna go Bulls, just the sheer dominance of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be my that'd be my peck.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Stewart, Yeah, I'm gonna go bulls.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like, if you're a Jordan guy in the

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan Lebron date are debate, I think you just go

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<v Speaker 5>bulls here because Jordan and Bulls they're on the same team.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I am a walking contradiction. I'll go bulls as well,

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<v Speaker 3>even though I have Lebron over Jordan and the debate, Joel,

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<v Speaker 3>will it be a clean sweep or will the Warriors

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<v Speaker 3>get a vote? As a true Piston fan, I do

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<v Speaker 3>say Jordan too. Three peats. That's what I always say

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<v Speaker 3>about Jordan. Two three peats? All right? Our next topic

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<v Speaker 3>of conversation eighties nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on real quick, Joel Jordan, Joel Jordan, Jordan. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to say two three peats. You said. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I always say about Jordan. It's two three beats,

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<v Speaker 2>Joel Jordan. Uh, three p there you go? Here you go. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be walking down the street and be like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you Joel? Yeah, Jordan to three peats? There you go

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<v Speaker 2>like a he did it. He did the two three

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<v Speaker 2>peats thing, all right, So I go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all right. Eighties and nineties NBA versus the twenty teens.

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<v Speaker 3>In the twenty twenties NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we really having to I know, we really having

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<v Speaker 2>this debate? Looked eighties? I mean, I look, you watch

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<v Speaker 2>eighties like there's and I'm somebody obviously I will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you the skill now, the skill now, the shooting and

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<v Speaker 2>passing skills and spacing. It can be a beautiful game

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, and the Warriors are incredibly fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But the competitiveness, the the chippiness, UH don't know. Those

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<v Speaker 2>guys are just bigger than life. Eighties and nineties and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's close if you lived through both.

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<v Speaker 5>Eras Jason Stewart, I think for the same reason I

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<v Speaker 5>prefer eighties and nineties movies. I was more naive, I

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<v Speaker 5>was more open to creativity. I'm too cynical and too

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<v Speaker 5>many years into the business now to like the modern NBA.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna stick with the eighties and nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>There is something nostalgic about turning on a TV and

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<v Speaker 3>seeing fifty five to forty eight with ten minutes left

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<v Speaker 3>in the game. But that's where we were in the

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<v Speaker 3>eighties and nineties. Giving me the eighties and nineties, Joel,

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<v Speaker 3>will it be a clean sweep again? Yes, that was

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<v Speaker 3>a Piston score you just gained. I go with eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, look, I can't imagine they would haul

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<v Speaker 2>off and arrest Bill Ambier for the stuff he did

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<v Speaker 2>back then, but somehow like it was part of the sport,

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<v Speaker 2>firs sport and only to correct you a little bit, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>they actually scored a lot in the eighties and nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the two early two thousands post Jordan, sure

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<v Speaker 2>that it got to be really really ugly and low scores.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely more in the nineties. Not yeah, not as much

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<v Speaker 3>in the eighties, but but uh but yeah, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Shaq versus Kobe. This is a debate that has happened

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<v Speaker 3>probably many a time in laker Lands.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, Shack versus Kobe in terms of what.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, who's sayan Who's who is the reason for the Lakers?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the championships? Who was? Who is the better Laker?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is the better player? Shack versus Kobe?

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe was the better player, but Shack was this incredible

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<v Speaker 2>dominant physical force Shack. Kobe got more out of his

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<v Speaker 2>body than Shack could have been. The greatest player ever

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to be Shack. So I'm gonna go Coche.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a huge Kobe fan until kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>end when he evolved as a person and and became

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<v Speaker 2>actually a friend. But I think in this case you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go Kobe Bryant.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Stewart.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my opinions evolved on this. I was I was

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<v Speaker 5>team Shock when they broke up, but I've evolved. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>Kobe now Kobe looking back, it's all Kobe.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me Shaquille O'Neal, Joel Elliott your final Shack Daddy

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<v Speaker 3>split on Kobe versus Shack. By the way, this wraps

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<v Speaker 3>up the NBA portion of our debate. However, Golf, Tennis,

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<v Speaker 3>NBC primetime TV shows in so much more coming up

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I like the NBC. We got least some extra

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<v Speaker 2>time for that last segment. Okay, final hour of the

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick Show. Here before we send you off to

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend and to meet Friday, we got to get

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<v Speaker 2>to should show Hey o Tani being the home run Derby.

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<v Speaker 2>We wanted to have that debate Jason and I. We

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Plus Bronnie James is a laker? Should he be?

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<v Speaker 2>That's next to The Dan Patrick Show.