1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This is John, this is Sam, your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. So we have some spectacular stories coming up. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: But real quick, we got a two minute break from 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: our lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: My roommate wanted me to split everything with her everything. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: I moved in with this roommate in August last year, 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: and ever since then, she's had this habit of going 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: out buying things on her own and then telling me 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: afterward that it's for the apartment and that I owe 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: her half. 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: Ah, lovely, lovely, lovely, I did not want that grill? 12 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: Did that tune? A sandwich? You just ate fully? Also, 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: we're playing that for half. Sometimes it's things like paper 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: towels or garbage bags, which I already have and don't 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: need her to buy more of. 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: Uh okay, debatable, Okay. 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: Let alone expect me to split the cost. Other Times 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: it's random kitchen gadgets or small pieces of decor. She 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: mentions it super casually too, like, oh, yeah, I got 20 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: this for us, Just send me half whenever. By the way, 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: this comes from user user name, and if you want 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash 23 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: Okay Storytime supred It I'm key on, I am, and 24 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: we're here to give good advice. Goofily, we don't know everything, guys, 25 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: we really don't. Sorry, we only know what we do, 26 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: so let us know what you do in the comments. 27 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: As Opie says, by that point, it already feels awkward 28 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: to say no because the money's already been spent. Most 29 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: of it I barely even use, and it's obvious it's 30 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: mostly for her, but somehow I'm still expected to split 31 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: the cost. It's been quietly building resentment for months, especially 32 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: because I never agree to any of it beforehand. The 33 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: other thing that's driving me crazy is what happens when 34 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: I have friends over. Every single time she comes out 35 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: of her room and fully inserts herself into the hangout. 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: See, we both have roommates that are our friends. They 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: were friends first before roommates. Yeah, because you're not gonna 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: any activity you're doing with a group of people there 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: your roommates about it, right. 40 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: If it's as long as it's in like the common area, 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: Like if it's in your own room, like say you're 42 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: having spicy time, yeah, that's one thing. Or like with 43 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: a group of people, No, no, no, But like say 44 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: you feel like you're having. 45 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: Like she's talking about a group of people. 46 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it in general, like, if it's in 47 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: your room, your friends are coming over. What I you 48 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: you're watching a movie in your room. Less if your 49 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: room it's invited, don't come in. That's my that's my case. 50 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: I think if you have a group of people, if 51 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: anyone comes over and they're not like. 52 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: Maybe you are having spicy stuff with a group of people. 53 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: Who knows. 54 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: For example, Alex had his friend Blanda come over. What 55 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: they were hanging out the Blanda, Blanda his name Blanda. 56 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: I thought his name was Blando for a while, but 57 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: it's Blanda. It's just his last name. Gotcha, Okay, and 58 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: Blandon knows everybody. 59 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 60 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: But they were hanging out in his room playing a 61 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: game and they shut the door. So I was like, Okay, 62 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go hang out there, but I could 63 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: if I wanted to hang out in there, they'd let me. 64 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: They just went in their room because I was like 65 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: watching a movie in the living room. 66 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes that makes total sense. If you're I. 67 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: Guess, I guess they're not friends the roommate. How can 68 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: you have a roommate, not be friends with them. 69 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 2: Or at least cordial in a sense like we hang out, 70 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: we do stuff. Or like again, if you're hanging out 71 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: in the common ara like your living room, and you're 72 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: hanging out with your friends, you think you would extend 73 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: the invite or think it's okay or acceptable to invite 74 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: them unless you tell them otherwise. Hey, we're having like 75 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: a private thing. Sorry, is it okay? The room go 76 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: somewhere that case, That's what I was gonna say. If 77 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: you got to go see a movie, Like, if you're 78 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: watching a movie, maybe go to somebody else's house. 79 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: Also, I'm against you on this, Opie. 80 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Opie's a little bit of a 81 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: doormat per se. So again, Opie's roommate comes out and 82 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: she'll hang out with everyone in the common area. She'll 83 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: sit down and start asking my friends questions or telling 84 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: long stories about herself, like she's part of the group. 85 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: My friends are polite, but it's obvious they don't really 86 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: know her and don't want to have a full conversation 87 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: with her. Multiple friends have told me afterward that they 88 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: find her obnoxious, which makes it even more awkward. It's 89 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: gotten to the point where I hesitate to invite people 90 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: over because I know she's going to come out and 91 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: take over the conversation. Even simple things like having a 92 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: couple of friends over for coffee turn into situations where 93 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm quietly turning to rescue the hangout without making her 94 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: feel bad. She seems we're way closer than we actually are, 95 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: both socially and financially. Feels like she's constantly crossing boundaries 96 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: without realizing it. 97 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: She worked from home, she have a lot of friends. 98 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: There's also, like Riley said earlier, stop inviting friends over 99 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: to your place, go to theirs. If this is really 100 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: a case of like, I can't have people over because 101 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: she's going to assert herself and make it really awkward, 102 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: it's not just one door to walk through here, you 103 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: can go somewhere else. 104 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's like move out, ask her to move out. 105 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: This doesn't have to be your life forever. 106 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: No. I really want to set boundaries and make the 107 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: apartment feel comfortable for myself. But I've always struggled with 108 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: being assertive. I called it out earlier. I don't know 109 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: how to do it without creating tension. I think she 110 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: probably believes we're close friends just because we live together. 111 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: But that's not how I feel. I could really use 112 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: some advice on how to handle this. And there are 113 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: some comments. I mean, let's just get into the comments. 114 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: I think we said our piece. Yeah yeah, coming number one. 115 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: The next time she says she's bought something for the 116 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: house and tells you you can send her a half later, 117 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: just tell her no fair. Let her know that in 118 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: the past you went along with it because you struggle 119 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: with the conflict, but that you would like for her 120 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: to check in with you in the future about things 121 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: she wants to split. The friend thing is tricky, but 122 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: I think you could address it the next time you 123 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: have people over, so I don't know you're having guests 124 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: and that you would like to have alone time with 125 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: them without her. If she is unreasonable about either of 126 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: these and to be reasonable ask, it may be time 127 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: to look for somewhere else to live. If you aren't 128 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: capable of bringing things up, then it's definitely time to 129 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: move and maybe try living alone. Gop responds with I 130 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: definitely need to address it. I just don't know how 131 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: to articulate my words. Then everything gives me a little 132 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: bit of anxiety because I don't want to make people 133 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: feel bad, but something needs to be said. Rip off 134 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: that bandai a girl, you need zoom. You're putting people's 135 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: needs above your own when you are uncomfortable, just though 136 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: they don't feel weird. Uh, I don't want to bring 137 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: up the tension if you don't bring up the tent 138 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: like she doesn't see any tension. I don't want to 139 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: make people feel uncomfortable. 140 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: You're uncomfortable cpp she has chronic people pleasing. 141 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: Yep, you know what. 142 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: Me and my roommy do make out another thing, Me 143 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: and my remy do hold hands? No, just say what what? 144 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: Thank you? For example, he brought a grill, I bought 145 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: the thing that goes for the grill with Oh my gosh, 146 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: was it the gas caniser? Okay? 147 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, what is that thing called? Yeah? I would 148 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: say like, I don't know what kind of girl you 149 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: got that? 150 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I bought that. Okay, I bought the TV, 151 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: he bought the dining said like, yeah, it's very And 152 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: then when you move out, you know what's yours, you 153 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: know what's his. 154 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: It's a very simple thing that if this is your roommate, 155 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: you should be able to communicate things with your roommate. 156 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: If they can't listen to you, or they think it's 157 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: unreasonable to communicate things, or you know what have you, 158 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: then move out or change your roommate. Very simple, very simple. 159 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: I think this is your This is probably Opie's first time, 160 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: most likely living with someone, because I can tell like, oh, 161 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: I'll just yeah, I'll accept it. I'll say, okay, I'll 162 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: go with it. Yep. Come number two, think about when 163 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: you go your separate ways. She's not going to let 164 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: you take anything you've paid fifty percent of, so stop paying. 165 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: I'd actually start asking now, quote saying, what's going to 166 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: happen if one of us moves out? How are we 167 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: going to divide the items we've bought jointly? If you 168 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: want to keep them all, you could pay me back. 169 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: You can pay me back the money they cost, and 170 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: I'll stop using them. I He responds with I haven't 171 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: really been using any of the things she's bought anyway, 172 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: So that's going to be the easier conversation of the two. 173 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: We do have an update. What's your prediction here do 174 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 2: you think? I think there's a couple of routes. First 175 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: one is the easiest one. I think is just moving 176 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: out or a new roommate. Second one probably for OPI 177 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: is probably the hardest one. He's having the conversation and 178 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: things actually work out, like the roommate's cool, respects your boundaries, 179 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: it stops asking you to split things. I think that's 180 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: another one third one. Y'all go fisticuffs, winner take all fair. 181 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: You could do that. That that could work. I don't know. Man, 182 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: hope he has the conversation. I don't think honestly, I 183 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: don't think the room is gonna take a while. 184 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't think so either, But we'll see. Onto the 185 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: update update. I finally had a direct conversation with her 186 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: because the situation was making me uncomfortable in my own 187 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: home and I didn't want to keep building it into resentment. 188 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: I made sure to stay calm, respectful, and clear about 189 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: what I needed without it turning into a personal attack. Smart. 190 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how she takes a friend thing. That's 191 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: gonna be the hardest. 192 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: I think the friend thing is. 193 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 194 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna find out, Opie says. I started with 195 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: the money issue. I explained that I'm not okay with 196 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: being asked to split costs. After she's already bought something. 197 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: I told her that unless we both degree ahead of 198 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: time that something is shared, I'm not paying for it. 199 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: I also pointed out that I already buy my own 200 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: household supplies, but I don't need duplicates I didn't ask for. 201 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: She said she thought she was being helpful, but I 202 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: explained that help only worked if I wanted it. She 203 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: didn't really argue with this, although she did say it 204 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: made things feel transactional, which confused me considering she was 205 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: asking me to reimburse her after the fact. Then I 206 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: brought up the social boundary issue. 207 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: She responded to that that, well, we're gonna see. 208 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, well see how Opie goes about this situation. 209 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: I explain, when I have friends over, I expect to 210 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: be able to spend time with them without feeling like 211 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: I have to manage in another social dynamic. I told 212 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: her it had gotten to the point where I was 213 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: hesitant to invite people over at all because she consistently 214 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: inserted herself into the hangouts. I was clear that shared 215 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: living space doesn't automatically mean shared social time, and that 216 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: I would never do the same thing when she has 217 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: friends over. This part of the conversation didn't go as smoothly. 218 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: She said she felt excluded and that she thought we 219 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: were closer than we actually are. Wrong. 220 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of had a similar thing happened to 221 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: me where my ex at the time. She wanted family time. 222 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: She wanted time to spend with her family. Okay, but 223 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: her family didn't really like me. But I respected it, okay, and. 224 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: Like you were including family time or it was just 225 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: her family time. 226 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: It was just her family. I was not included, okay. 227 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: But with Angie and her family, I'm like, hey, do 228 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: you want your family time? She's like, no, I'm good, 229 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: you can come hang out with us. Like really, you're 230 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: cool with that? Like Vegas this weekend, we get a miscommunication. 231 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: I thought she wanted to go there to spend time 232 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: with her family, so I was like, I'm not gonna go, 233 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: m but she really wanted me to go, and she 234 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: was hurt by it because I didn't say or I 235 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: didn't express that I would want to go. So we 236 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: both we both had a miscommunication there, but then we 237 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: talked it out and we figured it out. 238 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: It's, yeah, it's the one communicating, but also assuming you 239 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: assume and you know when you assume you know what 240 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: that dust you. 241 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: And that person. But it so, that's why this assumption, 242 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: which I think OPU telling her that is something that 243 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: needed to happen. 244 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: Honesty sometimes is best policy. Oh, he continues with. I 245 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,119 Speaker 2: acknowledged her feelings, but reiterated that closeness can't be assumed, 246 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to finances and social boundaries. I 247 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: didn't raise my voice or say anything unkind, but she 248 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: still became defensive and said I was making her feel 249 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: singled out. The conversation ended awkwardly because she shut down 250 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: rather than engaging with what I was saying. She didn't 251 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: talk to me for the rest of the night, which 252 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: was uncomfortable, but I didn't feel like I had said 253 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: anything unreasonable. Since then, the practical issues haven't proved exactly 254 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: the way I asked for. She hasn't asked me to 255 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: pay for anything she bought on her own, and when 256 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: I've had friends over, she no longer inserts herself into 257 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: the hangouts. That alone has made a noticeable difference. However, 258 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: she's been a bit colder overall and occasionally makes passive 259 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: comments like oh, I didn't want to intrude, which feels 260 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: less like respecting boundaries and more like still adjusting to them. 261 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: Even with that, I don't regret having the conversation. The 262 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: apartment is genuinely more comfortable now. I can tell she's 263 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: still adjusting, and while the awkwardness isn't ideal, it feels 264 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: like a normal part of resetting expectations that probably should 265 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: have been clear from the beginning. I finally feel like 266 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: I can exist in my own space without constantly feeling uncomfortable, 267 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: which is really the whole goal. We do have some 268 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: comments here. 269 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: Dude, I'm sorry. This reminds me Alex bought a new 270 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: trash can. Okay, and it's like a Alex does this thing? 271 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: What kind of trash can? 272 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: It's my roommate, Alex. Yeah, yeah, I'll get to that. 273 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: My roommate Alex is this thing where he'll get something. 274 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: He will, at least I love him so much. The 275 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: second he gets it, he'll say how much it is normally, 276 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: and then he'll say he got for free. Every time. Dude, 277 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: this is like a. 278 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: This is like a fifty thousand dollars trash can. 279 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: It's like a two hundred dollars trash can. 280 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: Guess what what what I got free? Yeah? 281 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: There's two hundred dollars trash can. A lot of like 282 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: rich people have it, like this person. This person had 283 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: I went to this rapper's house and they had this 284 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: trash can. 285 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: And do you ask him how do he got that 286 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: trash can? 287 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: Or yeah, and my first question is did you get 288 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: it from the side of the street. And he was like, no, 289 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 3: not for this one. But he bought a trash can 290 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: for this one. And he usually buy the things that 291 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: are a little too big for the for the apartment, 292 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: and this. 293 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: Has what you don't say, I've been to your apartment. 294 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the couch, yeah yeah, yeah, Well, and I 295 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: will I buy things that are a little too big 296 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: for the part two We both do. It's just a 297 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: small apartment and the trash can is like double wide, 298 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: and like there's a chair at a dining room that 299 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: we can't get to now because of the trash can. 300 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: But it's a nice trash can and it keeps the 301 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: smell out. 302 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's called just take out your trash and 303 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: spray it. I don't think you need the most expensive 304 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: trash can. 305 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: Well it's already there, I know. 306 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: Okay, but he'll do that. 307 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: It's funny he's got a four hundred dollars toaster that 308 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: he bought and found on the side of the road. 309 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: Why do you Okay, I'm a simple man. I don't 310 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: need those things. 311 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: Dude, you are not a simple man. You buy so 312 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: many legos, you have so much stuff. Yeah, you literally 313 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: just told me how much stuff you're gonna buy in Japan. 314 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah it's called simple needs. 315 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 3: Those aren't needs. 316 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: Oh, those are needs. 317 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: Those I don't want. 318 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: Those are needs. 319 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: You don't even build them, you just buy them in 320 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: the box. 321 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: I need them. Anyways, we have some comments comming. Number one, 322 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: you handle the first issue of her buying things for 323 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: the apartment and expecting you to pay the half perfectly. 324 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,119 Speaker 2: The second issue not exactly how I would have recommended 325 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: you manage it. Everything might feel great for you right now, 326 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: but every time you have people over and she stays 327 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: in her room the entire time, resentment will build. Yeah. 328 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you should have been like, there 329 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: are times where I wanted to just hang out with 330 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: my friends, but there should be also times where you 331 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: can come and hang out and we can do things 332 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: like you just told me. Like m you're a roommate, 333 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: but you don't belong to hang out with my friends. 334 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: My friends are separate from you. 335 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: That is what you said. 336 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: Not a good way to do that. She shouldn't have 337 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: included herself into your friends if she wasn't invited. But 338 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: you both pay for the apartment. Therefore shared space is 339 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: just that shared, so she had every right to not 340 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: lock herself away in her room. Your conversation was exactly 341 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: the opposite. I really hope things work out well, but 342 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: please prepare for the worst. I have a feeling she 343 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 2: will break in. Any crazy you've seen this far will 344 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: be minor coming too. Yeah. From a glance, Opie seems 345 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: to have been cruel. Why not let your roommates chill 346 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: in the living room. It is their home too, unless 347 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: they are specifically creating a weird vibe. Possibly, I guess 348 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: there's a reply saying, if they're creating a weird vibe, 349 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: talk to them about it, get them suggestions on how 350 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: to tone it down, correct that behavior. No, that's not 351 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: Opie's obligation or responsibility, but it's so much nicer than 352 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: saying nobody likes you. Please don't be in the living 353 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: room when I had people over, which is apparently quite often. 354 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what you said. 355 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: There is a little bit less edit. There's an edit. 356 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: Do you want to get straight into it or I'm 357 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 2: just I don't know it just I mean, I think 358 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: we said our piece weird. When it comes to roommates, 359 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: you can't control the entire place. You can control your room, 360 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: they can control their room. But sharing a space, bathroom, kitchen, 361 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: what have you. If it's a shared space, you gotta 362 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: share it. He doesn't belong to you. Not a good 363 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: way of going about it. Op again, if you're like, ah, 364 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: I want to hang out with my friends, go hang 365 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: out with your friends somewhere else. But there is an edit. 366 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: I woke up to a lot of nasty comments today, 367 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: so I want to address something. I didn't say what 368 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: I wrote here verbatim to her, and maybe that's why 369 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: it comes off like I was nasty. Someone on my 370 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: last page gave me a guideline of what to say, 371 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: and life followed it closely. I wasn't telling her not 372 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: to be around. I clearly explained that I don't get 373 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: to see my friends often, and then it would be 374 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: nice if we could hang out separately. Sometimes I probably 375 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: should have included bad detail. Originally, This happened only two 376 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: days ago, and after reading comments, I understand now that 377 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: she may have been more hurt than I realized. I'm 378 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: planning to talk to her again, possibly set up a 379 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: one on one hangout, and reassure her. And that is 380 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: the end of that. 381 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: Okay. 382 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: I feel like integrating as someone who integrates everybody. Yeah, 383 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: I love making connections. You do, Yeah, like I integrated, 384 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: Like no, I said, I thought you said with a question, 385 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah. Sometimes you you know, friend 386 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: groups can't be aligned or like someone's will get a 387 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: weird out. But if it's I feel like it's nice 388 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: and like you can talk to them, so your roommate, 389 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: you can. You should have clear communication with them and 390 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: they should be able to listen. And uh, it seems 391 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: like that's going in the right direction. But I think 392 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: you should include her with your friends when they come over. 393 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: Not all the time, but maybe sometimes just to include someone. 394 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: Being included feels nice. What it was the you know, 395 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: the other way around Ope where she was inviting her 396 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: friends over and she told you, no, you can't come 397 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: out here. We don't want to hang out with you. 398 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: Nobody likes you. Your presence is annoying. It wouldn't feel great. 399 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: It's so sad. 400 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: Obviously she didn't say it like Obviously, OPI didn't say 401 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: it like that, But at the end of the day, 402 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: it sounds like it. 403 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: It really does. 404 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: So that is the of that story. 405 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: We got another one, Yes, we do. My roommate has 406 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: been extremely inconsiderate to me and I want her out. 407 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: Well, how about you get out? 408 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: Hi, I own a mobile home park in a close 409 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: community park. The rules are a little tight, but the 410 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: park itself is very nice and my landlord is generally 411 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: very reasonable. What are the rules? States that there could 412 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: be no unauthorized overnight guests, which I have come to 413 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: understand that means people who are not on the lease 414 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: should not be here most days of the week. This 415 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: understanding came after several conversations with my landlord where she 416 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: cites accountability and liability issues she has experienced with previous tenants. 417 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from wobble, drones and a 418 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: feudals old stories go to guar slash okay stories. I'm Subreddit, 419 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm Riley. 420 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice. 421 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: Scoofully, you're here to comment Opey says to breakface a bit. 422 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: My roommate is recently divorced and came to me for 423 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: help while she was in the process a leaving her 424 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: husband mobile home like a trailer. 425 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: It sounds like a mobile like, yeah, like a trailer park, 426 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: but like, yeah, they're you know what those those areas? Yeah, yeah, 427 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: that's what I would picture as well. 428 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: My uncle like rents those out to people. 429 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 430 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: I agree that she could stay in my spare room 431 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: for an incredibly reasonable rent price, and I even wound 432 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 3: up lowering the rent after my partner moved in, which 433 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: I will touch on later. The agreement was that she 434 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: could stay as long as it took her to get 435 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: back on her feet. At first, things were pretty all right. 436 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: She always paid her rent on time and was very 437 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 3: communicative about any issue she had. It was honestly nice 438 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: to have another detail oriented female energy close by. Oh no, 439 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: I think I see what's about to happen here. 440 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: Let's see. 441 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: The only thing that would bother me at the stage 442 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 3: was that she would consistently come home very upset after 443 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 3: sneaking off to her soon to be X's house, the 444 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: one she's divorcing. To be clear, it was none of 445 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: my business, and I did not really care where she 446 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: spent her time, asides from the fact that it left 447 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: her extremely upset and she lying to me about it 448 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: for literally no reason. She said she did not once 449 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: to feel judged, which I understood, but I also did 450 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: not like the feeling of being lied to, especially over 451 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: something so arbitrary. She did move out briefly and tried 452 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: to reconcile her marriage, but less than three weeks later 453 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: she moved back in. 454 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: She said she didn't want to be judged, but she 455 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: was one lying, sneaking off, fooling around with the person 456 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: she was divorcing. You're gonna be judged because like you 457 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: shouldn't be doing those things. She sounds, I don't know, 458 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: to me, like a girl, like a like a high 459 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: school girl, yeah, or just like a high schooler in general. 460 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: I would care. I'm literally helping you get back on 461 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: your feet after your divorce. Don't go making that problem worse. 462 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, or prolonging this problem or yeah, exactly, it's sorry. 463 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: But like you, the fact that like, don't judge me 464 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: start sounds like you're already judging yourself and you what 465 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: you know, what you're doing is bad. Or wrong. 466 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. Soon after that, the divorce was finalized, which I 467 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: thought would be a positive turning point. Things continued to 468 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: go well for a few weeks. She made plans to 469 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: go back to school, which she has stuck with so far, 470 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: and I am proud of her for that. She started 471 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 3: spending time with a guy from work, which quickly evolved 472 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: into a relationship. I was happy to see her moving on, 473 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: or at least trying to move on. Unfortunately, things started 474 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: to get very strange. At this point. She began sneaking 475 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: in the new guy into the house. When I called 476 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: her out on it, citing the least rules and basic consideration, 477 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: she got defensive. Several days later, she ultimately agreed to 478 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: at least let me know when she has company coming over. 479 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: I saw this behavior as incredibly disrespectful to the household, 480 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: but I pushed it off to maintain the piece. From 481 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 3: that point on, things got worse. 482 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: You sound like her mother, Yeah, you sound like her mom. 483 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: I get it's a rule and you don't want to 484 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: get kicked out. 485 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: Hey, rules are meant to be broken. 486 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: This is something that's weird. 487 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: No, I totally get it. I want to a peace end, Like, Hey, 488 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: I'm giving you the luxury to stay here. This is 489 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: technically Op's place. If you're gonna break those rules and 490 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: go against it, sure, I think once in a blue 491 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: moon whatever, But if you're doing this consistently, and you're 492 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 2: consistently lying to me, if you want to keep doing that, 493 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: go stay hit his place, yep, get out of here 494 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: and get you don't. I don't need you here anymore. 495 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: While she now tells me when he is coming over 496 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: he spends most nights at my house because she doesn't 497 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: like his house anymore. 498 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: Oh pooh freakin' who. 499 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 3: I could spend a long time trying to unpack that, 500 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: but this story is already long, and there is still more. 501 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 3: My landlord approached me and told me two things. First, 502 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: we needed to stop leaving ruts in the yard, which 503 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: was caused by our boyfriend being over five to seven 504 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: nights a week. 505 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: Ruts with ruts, I have no idea. Look, I have 506 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: no idea what it is. 507 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: What does it mean when someone says stop leaving ruts? 508 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: That was rats? 509 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 3: And I was like, no phrase, stop reaving, no ruts? 510 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: Look up? What are ruts? 511 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: Stop leaving riz ruts? What they're ruts? A long, deep 512 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: track made by the oh by like repeating passage of 513 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: a vehicle. Okay, it's like a like walking tire marks. 514 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh like moving Yeah, I get that makes sense. 515 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: Which was caused by her boyfriend being over five to 516 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 3: seven nights a week. Second, her boyfriend could not stay 517 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: here that often without being on the lease. I worked 518 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: out a compromise where the boyfriend could be here on 519 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: weekends as long as we addressed the ruts, the grass, 520 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: and the parking situation. She verbally agreed to this arrangement. 521 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: I woke up the next morning to find that she 522 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: had snugged him in anyway. When I asked why she 523 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: did not even send a text, she said, I did 524 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: not want to risk waking you up, despite everything I 525 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: had gone through with my landlord to arrange this compromise 526 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: for her. For additional context, my partner lives separately for 527 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: the first portion of our relationship. Recently, he was involved 528 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: in a house fire that left him without his apartment. 529 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 3: After a few days of him staying with me while 530 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: dealing with the Red Cross and realizing he would not 531 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 3: be getting his unit back, we decided it would be 532 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: easier and better for him to move in with me. 533 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: His moving in had been mentioned casually for months, but 534 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: the fire is what made it happen quickly. During the 535 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: week we were preparing for him to move in, I 536 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: explained the situation to my roommate multiple times. On his 537 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: first real night fully moving in, she started suggesting rentals 538 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: in the area that might fit his budget. 539 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: Grilly Pop, do you remember that I gave you the 540 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: luxury that this is my place and I was helping 541 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: you get back on your feet. 542 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: And I gave you a pretty dang good deal. 543 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: And you keep altering the deal or you think, now 544 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: this is your place and you get to decide things. 545 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: This was instead of being welcoming to someone who had 546 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: just nearly lost everything in a fire. Shortly after that, 547 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: she asked me to lower her rent again because there 548 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: was now another roommate showing no concern for the fact 549 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: that we were navigating something devastating. 550 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: It's transactional. 551 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 3: It's transactional. 552 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: This is another thing. What. I am not a fan 553 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: of verbal agreements or like a verbal contracts. Really they're cool, 554 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: but I think you needed a written on paper. Just 555 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: be like bing bingg bing bang bing bing bing bing 556 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: bing right here, and you should also be like there's 557 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: a three strike rule or whatever, or like, if you 558 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: keep doing it, you will be out of here kind 559 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: of thing. I like those, sorry, I like the contracts 560 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: where it's like you can visually see it and I'm 561 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: gonna put an X right there. Don't want be that person. 562 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: But you're not following the rules and you're not, you know, 563 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: respecting me or my boundaries. 564 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Not long before this, my boyfriend and 565 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: I made plans to attend an event in his hometown. 566 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: I made arrangements with my roommate to feed my cats 567 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: while we were gone. 568 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: Oh great. 569 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: I checked in every other day, and each time she 570 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: confirmed that she would be there. About twenty four hours 571 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: before we left, she told me she had made plans 572 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: to leave town as well. Wait what twenty four hours 573 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: she did help me set up Okay, well, she didn't 574 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: help me set up an automatic feeder, which I appreciated. 575 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 3: Unfortunately it did not matter because my cats never got 576 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: used to it. My boy friend and I left before 577 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: she did, and she ended up closing my cat in 578 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: her room for thirty six hours with no food, no water, 579 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: and nowhere else to use the bathroom. Instead of apologizing, 580 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: she told me my cat had deprecated on her bed 581 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: and that was the end of the conversation. 582 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: Oh wow, girly pop, ya left my cat in your 583 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: room with no food, no water, nowhere to use the bathroom, 584 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: and of course it went on your bed. Good kitty. 585 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: At this point, I'm playing a fun new game. It's 586 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: called how much stuff can We put in this box 587 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: and put on the side of the road as fast 588 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: as we can? And it's all your stuff in your room. 589 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Go. 590 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: I love that game. 591 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you ever played it before? 592 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: I want to. 593 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna be playing it soon. Maybe, Dan, you're 594 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: gonna have to move soon. Yeah, find a place. 595 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: No looking at places right now? 596 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 3: Look good? Live here. Kids. Just knocking on your door 597 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: ke on while you're not work yet. 598 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: Sounds like my dad. 599 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: Ha oh man. We also had agreed upon a rule 600 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: that she would not use the dryer when I'm asleep. 601 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: The dryer is right next to my bedroom wall and 602 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: it keeps me awake. Over the past few months, she 603 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: has begun disroviding this rule, especially on weekend mornings when 604 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 3: I prefer to sleep in. The most recent incident happened 605 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: this past weekend. One of my partner and I both 606 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: had the day off and we're trying to sleep in. 607 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: I got up to get some water, and my room 608 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: up was making breakfast. She said she would be starting 609 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: the driver soon and added that I would be the 610 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: only one bothered by it. That statement made it clear 611 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: she did not care whether I got back sleep or not, 612 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: despite the rule we had agreed on. 613 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: Again, I feel like whenever you say rule, she goes, 614 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: uh ah, that doesn't sound like a rule, sounds like 615 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: something I'm gonna do. 616 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. The final issue, and the one that has been 617 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: eating at me the most over the past couple of weeks, 618 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: happened around New Year's The cat thing would absolutely I. 619 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: Mean I would have drawn the line a long time ago, 620 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: but when it comes to my pet and it's not 621 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: being fed or being taken care of. 622 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: I got sick with a fairly serious upper respiratory illness 623 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: on New Year's Eve. As soon as I felt a 624 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 3: tick on my throat, I told her. She decided that 625 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: she and her boyfriend would be spending the entirety of 626 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: the holidays in my house, two full weeks with no 627 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 3: breaks and no conversation about it. I let it go 628 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: at the time because I did not want to be screwed, 629 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: but I know now that I should not have a 630 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: Few days later, she also got sick. Then she sent 631 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: me a long message explaining that I should not spend 632 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: time in the living room when I'm sick. She justified 633 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: this by saying that she stayed in her room when 634 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: I had the VID, and that's why I did not 635 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: get sick. At that point, I lost my patience. I 636 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: told her this was totally inappropriate and uncalled for. I 637 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: reminded her that I gave her a warning, and I 638 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: made it clear I would not be quarantining myself to 639 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: my bedroom because this is my home and I deserve 640 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: to be comfortable while I'm sick. She never responded to 641 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: that message, and I never received an apology for the 642 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: massive overstepping of boundaries. So Reddit, I generally want to know. 643 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: Am I the a hole here? Am I overreacting to 644 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: the dishonesty and lack of respect? Am I supposed to 645 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: lock myself in my bedroom when I'm sick? Am I 646 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 3: supposed to lose sleep because of the driver situation? Honestly, 647 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: do not know why this is happening. That's why I'm 648 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: asking we have an update. Update. 649 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: You're not the alem the only a hole here to 650 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: help me, and she's an a hole. Your roommate think 651 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: you've been an ahole to yourself. You've been letting this 652 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: go on for so long. 653 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: Yep. 654 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: You kept making like you kept having conversations and saying 655 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: like there are rules. I feel like after the first 656 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: two times she did this and disrespected you, you should 657 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: have been like, if you do one more time, you're out. 658 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: I don't care. You kind of an a hole for 659 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: to yourself, OPI, that's about it. I feel like once 660 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: you should have put your foot down a long time ago. 661 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: I know you were trying to be a good person, 662 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: a good friend. What have you? She didn't do that. 663 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: She literally doesn't care. It's sad. What do you think 664 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: the update is gonna be? She gone think so? 665 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: I hope? So? 666 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 3: You think Opie kicks her out? 667 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 2: I really hope so. 668 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: But that you hope what's actually gonna happen? 669 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: Though? The most dramatic thing is that the roommate now 670 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: has turned it upside down for op and now she 671 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: controls the building like the mobile home. Yeah, golly, no, 672 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: I think she's will come on. She pished better be out. 673 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a huge cat fight and like things 674 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 2: aren't gonna go well, but OP is gonna get her 675 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: her peace and quiet. 676 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: I like it. Update. Roommate has been m for two 677 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: days now, but I have a lease with a hard 678 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: seased date for her last semester of school. It is 679 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: a technical field, so she should be placed upon graduation. 680 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: In addition, the boyfriend is no longer welcome unless it's 681 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 3: on a Saturday, and whether he stays overnight depends on 682 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: whether I give approval beforehand. She also cannot use the 683 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: driver when I'm sleeping. She either waits or takes it 684 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: to a laundromat. I do not care. I have learned 685 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: that documenting issues matters, that I need to be more assertive, 686 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: and that is completely within my rights to make someone 687 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: uncomfortable to protect the peace in my own home. So 688 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 3: thank y'all. Hello, Good for UOP. 689 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: Yay. I guess she's not gone just yet. I feel 690 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: like this is the last warning, last straw for UOP. Good. 691 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: She's abiding by the rules finally, and I think if 692 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: she breaks that rule, she's gone. But I guess you're 693 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: You're more generous and gracious than I would be, So 694 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: good on you for that op, but hopefully it never 695 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: happens again. 696 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, that sounds tough, But we got another story 697 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: for you, guys. 698 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: They said not to live with your closest friends, and 699 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: it was right. Oh no, so I signed a lease 700 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: with two of my childhood friends toward the beginning of 701 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: the year. Let me tell you, when they say not 702 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: to live with your close friends, do not do it. 703 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: I genuinely wish I had listened. By the way, this 704 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: comes from user Whole Situation ninety eight seventy eight. And 705 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: if you want to meet your own stories, go to 706 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: the rur slash Okay story time, sup rerid it. I'm 707 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: key on, I am Riley, and we're here to give 708 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: good advice. Goofily. We only know what we do, guys, 709 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: so let us know what you do in the comments. Please. 710 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: You probably not to live with your friends as a roommate. 711 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah did you know that? 712 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 3: Well I'm living with them, so me too. Yikes. 713 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: Hey's John og host. We're gonna get back to the stories, 714 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: but a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors. 715 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, we'll refer to them as roommate one are one 716 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: and roommate two as R two. 717 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're not doing that. 718 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: Uh. Roommate one Rebecca. Let's go with like Bob, these 719 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: are women. Did they say I didn't get any Lisa. 720 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: Lisa RABC Lisa and who Lisa and Renee Renee got it? 721 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: Lisa's roommate one, Renee roommate two, So we'll refer to 722 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: them as roommate Lisa and roommate Renee. Renee is the 723 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: one that both Lisa and I have had issues with 724 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: since the lease started. From the beginning, it became clear 725 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: that what she was going to be the main source 726 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: of tension in the apartment. The main issue with Renee 727 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: have been general cleanliness, communication problems, and constantly evading responsibility 728 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: since she was little. She grew up in a house 729 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: that was always in a state of clutter and chaos 730 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: every time I went there. She also has struggled with 731 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 2: maintaining good personal hygiene for most of her life. And 732 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: you thought I can live with this person? 733 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, weird? Why why did we agree to this? 734 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 2: Oof? I share a bathroom with Renee? No, that's going 735 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: to be gross. Uh. And from the beginning of our 736 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: lease in early May to the first time I asked 737 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: her to switch off cleaning the bathroom, in early September. 738 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: The bathroom was cleaned only by me. Not once did 739 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: she take initiative or offer to help during that time. 740 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: Dude, I'm so glad I have my own bathroom. It 741 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: is so nice because I get to clean it when 742 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: I want to clean it, and I don't have to 743 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: worry about. 744 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: That the same. But I do keep my bathroom pretty clean. 745 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: That's good. 746 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm not a neat freak, and when I was younger, 747 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: I struggled to find motivation to clean. However, when I 748 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: lived in an apartment during college, my roommates and I 749 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: created a cleaning schedule. I got used to cleaning the 750 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: bathroom every other week, and all I asked for Renee 751 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: was help with basic things like wiping down the counters, mirror, 752 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: and the toilet bowl. Some wanted be overwhelming. Later, Renee 753 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: didn't respond to my message that entire day, so I 754 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: sent a follow up the next morning and just said hello. 755 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: She responded by saying she was already having enough trouble 756 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: keeping her room clean, cleaning her half of the sink 757 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: that we share, and that she couldn't commit to regular 758 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: cleaning the bathroom. So you say, hmm, I'm gonna lock 759 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: that bathroom. Whenever I leave and use it, you can 760 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: go outside and use that as a bathroom like Riley does. 761 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that bad. I had to do that 762 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: for a while. 763 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: Before we moved in. The three of us met up 764 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: to discuss expectations. Knowing her history with clutter and her habits, 765 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: I specifically brought up not leaving unnecessary clutter in shared spaces. 766 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: Yup, that's a big one for me too. 767 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: I also suggested a chor chart since we had one 768 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: in my college apartment, and she asked us to hold 769 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: her accountable. When I reminded her of this, she claimed 770 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: we only talked about clutter. She also claimed she wasn't 771 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: unnecessarily taking up space, which wasn't true because she had 772 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: boxes of bins lining the wall outside her room and 773 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: in the dining area since the beginning of the lease. 774 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: Oh heck, if it's that, If it's that bad, I 775 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: don't care. I'm grabbing it and I'm throwing not throwing it, 776 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: but I am putting it in your room for you 777 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: to figure out. 778 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have some stuff that's kind of out and 779 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: about in our apartment. We're down to one box. I 780 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: had a conversation we have one box left. Nice, We're close. 781 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: If I'm playing literal like Legens of the Hidden Temple, 782 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: or like I have to do an obstacle course a 783 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: Ninja Warrior in my own living space and it's your 784 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: stuff that is the obstacle, I'll give you a couple 785 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: days to like figure it out, but that's about it. 786 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm not waiting the whole month or week. 787 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: On video games to night. That's what I'm gonna do. 788 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: Good for you, follow up. 789 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: I've been playing for all that four go help you settlements. 790 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: We all agreed early on that personal spaces could be 791 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: kept however we wanted, but common spaces needed to stay clean. 792 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: Despite this, Renee has left dishes either in or around 793 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: the sink to rot, gross and groll mold several times 794 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: since we moved in gross Oh. I would again take 795 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: those dishes and put it in her room. Lisa is pregnant, 796 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: so you can imagine how frustrated we were that Renee 797 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: would rather risk her health than clean her dishes. Every 798 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: time she was confronted about dirty dishes, she made excuses 799 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: about being busy or brought up past arguments. Once she 800 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: realized she had no valid defense accountability was never part 801 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: of the conversation for her. 802 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that gets a lot of people. That's a horror. 803 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: It's a hard one for people. 804 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: Oh boy, here we go. Another major issue has been 805 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: Renee's dog. 806 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: No, she has a dog. No, are you sure? 807 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: It's just not a clutter monster built over time with 808 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: mold and fung eye. She got an emotional support animal 809 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: near the beginning of the lease, and since I love dogs, 810 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: I had no issue signing the consent form. However, the 811 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: dog has severe separation anxiety and barks whenever she can't 812 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: see Renee. 813 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: So no, it's codependent. 814 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: Are you sure she was the essay or the dog 815 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: was the essay? Because this dog has so much anxiety. 816 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: They're feeding off of each other. 817 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Because of this, she almost always brought the dog 818 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: into the bathroom with her. One time, she left the 819 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: trash can on my side of the sink, right next 820 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 2: to my toothbrush to keep the dog out of it. 821 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 2: The trash had feminine hygiene products in it, and there 822 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: is a large linen closet in the bathroom that she 823 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: could have used instead, so it completely grossed me out. 824 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: This may have been petty, but after being ignored repeatedly, 825 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: whenever I tried communicate, I moved the trash can under 826 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: the sink. This caused a massive blow up. She started 827 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: the conversation by saying, sorry, I left the trash on 828 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: the sink one effing time doesn't mean you need to 829 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: hide it from me like an effing child. It's a 830 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: trash can going under the sink. All you have to 831 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: do is open it, open, open the tiny door. Also, 832 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 2: it's because you bring your dog in the bathroom, numb nuts. 833 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: Oh, that's even worse in the shared bathroom. 834 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 2: Ah. And while doing this, she was calling me multiple 835 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: names and insulting me. I told her it wasn't hidden, 836 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 2: it was just moved, and said she was the one 837 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 2: being childish for never communicating. The argument turned into who 838 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 2: was responsible for taking out the trash? Let me guess 839 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: you are, because she never does it. I explained that 840 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: in my experience, if the trash is full, you take 841 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: it out. The bathroom trash was overflowing because she had 842 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: put several contact cases in it. Her response was that 843 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: since it had a lot of feminine hygiene products in it, 844 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: it should have been my responsibility. Because she flushes hers. 845 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: During this argument, a pan that could been sitting out 846 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: on the counter for over a week was brought up. 847 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: The pan belonged to Lisa, and Renee had put it 848 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: away dirty, ruining it. She never apologized or acknowledged it. 849 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: When Lisa confronted her, Renee said she hadn't tried to 850 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 2: clean it yet and that she fully intended to replace 851 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 2: it if it was ruined, yet never apologized or offered 852 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: to replace it on her own. That argument somehow turned 853 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: into her accusing me never being home and prioritizing my 854 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: boyfriend over my friends. I believe that as an adult, 855 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 2: your partner should be a priority. I think part of 856 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 2: her resentment comes from her own relationship, as her boyfriend 857 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 2: really comes over and does not seem to prioritize her. 858 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 2: I also wonder why he's not coming over because her 859 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: room is an effing pigpen. 860 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 861 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: The issues with her dog continued. The dog has had 862 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: several accidents in the apartment. At first, she would text 863 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 2: Lisa and me warning us if there was a wet 864 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: spot in a common area. One day, the dog peed 865 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: on my bath mat. 866 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: No, that's gross, No more dog. 867 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 2: That bath mat is also in the trash. Renee told 868 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: me about it and said she would throw it in 869 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: the washer, followed by drying instructions just in case there 870 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: was no apology. That night, the mat still hadn't come back, 871 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: so I used one of my towels to draw my 872 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: feet and hung it over the shower rod. Over the 873 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: next few days, there were two occasions where that towel 874 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 2: ended up on the sink. Gross. The second time it 875 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: was placed directly on top of my toothbrush and my 876 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: boyfriend's toothbrush. 877 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: Are you serious? Are you freaking serious? 878 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: She's doing this on purpose? 879 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 3: A monster. 880 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: I sent a message expressing frustration, asking me her to 881 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: stop putting the towel on the sink, and mentioning that 882 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: my mat still hadn't been returned. She responds with that 883 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: she was busy and that I could have just as 884 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: easily gotten that mat myself. I explained that the issue 885 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 2: was her dog peeing on my belongings and her refusal 886 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 2: to take accountability or apologize. She said washing it was 887 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: taking responsibility and that she wasn't going to apologize because 888 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: the dog had an accident. Her claim of being busy 889 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: wasn't true. She and her boyfriend were home most of 890 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: the previous day, and when I came back. She was 891 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: playing with her dog in the living room. I told 892 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: her to stop unnecessarily touching my things. A few days later, 893 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: I found another pant she had left in the sink 894 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: for weeks with oil and floating food chunks. I moved 895 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: it into the wagon she keeps outside her door because 896 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: I refuse to let mold grow in a sink I use. 897 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 2: She came out, it was my Yeah, that was my 898 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: my telling, like you should. You should put all her dirty, 899 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 2: dirty pans and her dirty dishes in her room. 900 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: Fair, that's that's where they go. You don't do them. 901 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: She came out, yelling, in your words, stop touching my crap. 902 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: I told her to stop leaving moldy dishes in the 903 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: sink instead of cleaning it. She reused my words against 904 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: me and said she was done trying to prove a 905 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 2: point to someone who thinks they're never wrong. 906 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 3: Okay, well then just leave, just move out, and can't 907 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: keep doing this. 908 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 2: I have apologized in situations where I felt it was necessary. 909 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 2: She has never once apologized or acknowledged her behavior. It 910 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 2: often takes multiple texts just to get a response from her, 911 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: and she constantly hides behind saying she's bad a communication. 912 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: Easy money. I just don't understand why people are so 913 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 3: difficult to live with. And I guess she's your close friend. 914 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 3: But if you kind of see you see that cone 915 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 3: around the corner. 916 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: If you saw this, if you saw how she lived 917 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: and you thought, hmmm, she could change, right, I think 918 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: that's a little bit on both you and Lisa. I'm 919 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: not gonna lie. Yeah, but at the end of the day, 920 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: also very disgusting. I had a roommate like this. We 921 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: tried to get him off the lease. We couldn't. We couldn't. 922 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: It was it was a mutual assigned lease and the 923 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: only the landlord was like, we can't get him off 924 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: the we can't get him off the lease. He's like, 925 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: I also agree, he's he's a pig pen. His room's 926 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: a mess. He's caused me so much frustration. But it's 927 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: a contract. The least says the only person who is 928 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: responsible moving out is that person, like he has to 929 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 2: say he wants to move out. It was five roommates, 930 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: by the way, Christian was one of them. We said, 931 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: we don't want you to live here anymore. Where Arizona 932 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 2: during college, oh God, And we asked him, could you 933 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: please move out, like we just we don't want to 934 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: deal with you anymore. Because of that, he was like, no, no, 935 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: I'll be petty. I like living here. And we're like 936 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: we don't like living with you being a pig pen, 937 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't care. 938 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: Horrible, I'd be in. 939 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 2: All I did was like, all right, I will lock 940 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: my door upstairs. You can't come upstairs. We have our 941 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: own bathroom. I will use the sink when I need to. 942 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 2: I got my own mini fridge. It was bad. It 943 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: was a really bad, Like you go into his room, 944 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: You're like, dude, what is that odor? It's like, what 945 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: is that liquid in the corner? What is that? 946 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: I had to clean the most disgusting room in college. 947 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 3: I was an RA. 948 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: You were an RA. Yeah forgetting that you were an RA. 949 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 950 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 3: For one year, yeah, it paid for like my room 951 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: and board. 952 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 953 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, but I did that and 954 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 3: there's just one room completely filled trash. It was horrible. 955 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: They were like, you guys want to help clean it? 956 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: And I was like, why not. I want to experience 957 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: first mistake. It's horrible, dude, chocolate milk, oh, it's probably 958 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: oh yeah, that's all I gotta say. 959 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: He's bad, uh OPI at this point in time, you 960 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: just got to have failsafes of like all right, cool, 961 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 2: I'll just keep talking, like if you're gonna leave moldy things, 962 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it away. Yeah, gotta throw it away 963 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 2: or what have you? 964 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: Just get rid of it. 965 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: And then if you can't get her out of the 966 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: the least or the apartment, I don't know. I don't know. 967 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: Hey, John og host here, we're gonna get back to 968 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: this episode, but a quick three minute break of ads 969 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: from a sponsor's keeping the show alift leave. 970 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: Let's go, I finish up the story. She claims she 971 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 2: wants us to express when something is wrong, but when 972 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: we do, it's met with excuses, delays, or deflection. 973 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 974 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: She also claims that because Lisa and I spend nights 975 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 2: at our boyfriend's places, it feels like it's her apartment, 976 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: so she shouldn't be questioned about messes. 977 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 3: Shut up. 978 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 2: At the same time, she got an ESA emotional support 979 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: animal because she didn't want to be alone when we 980 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: weren't there. I genuinely don't know how I'm going to 981 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 2: survive another four months living with her. I don't even 982 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: know how you get to survive another four months living 983 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: with her. It feels like every single week is a 984 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: new battle comments. 985 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm good, this is two comments. 986 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: We need them. 987 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: No, it's good. 988 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: I want to read them. 989 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to read them. It's a long one. 990 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. I would. I would just yeah, don't. 991 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 3: If you are serious about living with a scroll and 992 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 3: you're serious about your friendship, it sounds like you guys 993 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: want they don't even have friendship. 994 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 2: It sounds like your friendship is out the window. 995 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 3: She does not care, she doesn't have respect for you. 996 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: One roommate's pregnant, the other one is just like causing 997 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 3: so much is not being safe? 998 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: Is a trash t ash heep. 999 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 3: She doesn't seem to get it out. I would be 1000 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 3: planning for the next four months. What I would literally 1001 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 3: do is just cleaner dishes, clean all this stuff, be 1002 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 3: super nice, clean everything, and then still with it four 1003 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: months to kick her out. I you were no longer invited. 1004 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, fight fire with fire outgrosser. 1005 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 3: No, that's not gonna do anything. 1006 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 2: No one's gonna win here. Everyone Lisa loses, You lose cuclear. 1007 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: Bombs, fight and show nuclear bombs. 1008 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I would just yeah at this point, 1009 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 2: just like make a rule like, hey, if it's moldy 1010 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: and it if you leave something moldy in the sink, 1011 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 2: throwing it away or putting in your room, I don't 1012 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: know what. Like if she just keeps afflecting, I don't 1013 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 2: know what to do. Yeah, I would want her out 1014 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: within the within as soon as possible. Ah. 1015 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was a hard one to read. 1016 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: But guys, that was the other of our roommates stories. 1017 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 3: Hope you liked them. 1018 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 2: I hope you have great roommates you can also have. 1019 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: I know it's the thing. You can live with your 1020 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 2: your friends as roommates as long as they respect you 1021 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 2: and respect them. 1022 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I feel like me and my roommate are 1023 00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 3: doing pretty well. 1024 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: Ah, the story wid be very triggering. 1025 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 3: Fair to this. Yeah, we're gonna actually talking soon about 1026 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 3: a cleaning schedule, me and my roommate. Oh yeah, pretty cute. 1027 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 3: Have you talked to your roommate about a cleaning schedule? 1028 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 2: Well, we've got to figure out where we're living first. 1029 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 3: Are you gonna live with him? 1030 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I have to. 1031 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 3: I have to have to. 1032 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: That'll have to, but it'll be fine. Sure, yeah, all right, 1033 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 2: I'm cool with it. 1034 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 3: Well, if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 1035 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.