Speaker 1: What's happening, and what's happening, and what's happening. It's your boy,
Speaker 1: Big Steel with a very special, a very special Against
Speaker 1: the Chronicles podcast. We on the eve of Glasses Malone
Speaker 1: dropping his new album Cancel These Nuts, and of course
Speaker 1: Glasses is late, but I'm in here with his partner
Speaker 1: in crime, Hey, his big partner Crime, the man behind
Speaker 1: the boards on this entire project, IRV and Pope professionally
Speaker 1: known as ep EP was having a baby. Man. You
Speaker 1: know what, It's a phenomenal album. Man, I really feel,
Speaker 1: really feel really really strongly about this. Man.
Speaker 2: We made it right. We made it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, man, And you know what, I think
Speaker 1: I would be disappointed man if we didn't go at
Speaker 1: least on this.
Speaker 3: From the time that we end, and for the body
Speaker 3: of work and the subject matter, I mean, it has
Speaker 3: all the elements to go Flattenum really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. Man. Right now, man, so I'm telling
Speaker 1: everybody right now, man, album, Well, by the time y'all
Speaker 1: hear this, the album be released already, but all streaming
Speaker 1: platforms everywhere you can even order advanced copies. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a link in there. Not advanced copies, but physical copies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ain't it's crazy man, on how physical copies are anomaly now.
Speaker 3: Man, exactly. People, I'm glad. I'm glad to know that
Speaker 3: people really want them.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that collector's items.
Speaker 1: Yes, what I'm saying. But they are collector's items right now. Man.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was doing my thing, Man, physical
Speaker 1: was a big thing. Man. You had you had to
Speaker 1: manufacture tapes, CDs at one time, tape CDs and vinyl.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: You would mess around, man, your budget be gone, you
Speaker 1: be down in your budget, man, eighty ninety k just
Speaker 1: that quick.
Speaker 2: Exactly, just emerge, not to merge, but but the physical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the physical stuff. And then you had recording
Speaker 1: studio time, which was really expensive back in the day. Man,
Speaker 1: and you was taking on two inch tape and it
Speaker 1: was crazy. Man, it was really crazy. I actually think
Speaker 1: it's better nowadays though, kind of EP froze up a
Speaker 1: little bit on us. We're waiting for him to come
Speaker 1: back in, waiting for Glasses Malone to come back in,
Speaker 1: you dig what I'm saying. And we got the load
Speaker 1: coming in the house. The load just Dom came in
Speaker 1: what's up, g Yeah, EP Froze, I'm back. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: it was just a whole different dynamic and we got
Speaker 1: the man of the hour himself in the house. Me
Speaker 1: and EP was just talking about back in the day, man,
Speaker 1: with all it took to actually release Apple at one time,
Speaker 1: you had to get CDs, cassettes and vinyl manufacturer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did all that. I checked all the boxes.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy time because you would be down
Speaker 1: big and your budget, man, and we was recording on
Speaker 1: two inch tape. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did a whole home on that before so I
Speaker 4: could relate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So while I got y'all both here, man, congratulations, Man,
Speaker 1: we did it. I was telling EP I would feel
Speaker 1: I would feel some kind of ways we did hold
Speaker 1: because I believe it's a phenomenal project. And it was
Speaker 1: a phenomenal project.
Speaker 4: And is that your little journalist's voice?
Speaker 1: No, man, can you just can you let me do me?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Can you allow me to do me?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 1: Boy?
Speaker 4: You that I I don't take you and you just
Speaker 4: find your barber watches? Was so fast?
Speaker 1: Did I have a certain level of professionalism?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: I can't be on here talking, you know, and all
Speaker 1: that ponics and slang which and all that shit man
Speaker 1: that were doing that we do through the day.
Speaker 5: I try to say, your project came out phenomenal, tremendous effort.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a tremendous effort man, you know because
Speaker 1: I got to see man with all went into it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I really feel like y'all both pot your heart and
Speaker 1: soul into it.
Speaker 4: Man. Yeah, we poured our hard.
Speaker 1: Sold into it. Man, it's a phenomenal project. Man. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you. EPU asked me what my favorite song?
Speaker 1: He was, Man, what's your favorite song on here?
Speaker 2: Like my kids, I can't pick it right now. I
Speaker 2: love them all.
Speaker 3: I was like, tomorrow something gonna hit me different than
Speaker 3: it hit me today and yesterday. I mean, I'm still
Speaker 3: enjoying it. That's how I know it's a classic project, bro.
Speaker 3: But the makers are still feeling it, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Normally like I put some out and I'm
Speaker 3: on to the next. But I keep like I really
Speaker 3: ride to this album.
Speaker 1: Ain't that funny? You know? I want to ask Glasses
Speaker 1: in particular, Man, you're going hard on here? Man, what
Speaker 1: was your mindset going into this? Man?
Speaker 4: What was my mindset?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: I don't know it was just Tuesday. Really, it really
Speaker 4: was Tuesday.
Speaker 5: I know that sounds crazy, but people like you who
Speaker 5: know me, you feel me, y'all know exactly what I
Speaker 5: mean when I say it's Tuesday, Like this is just normally,
Speaker 5: this is what the flavor of the week was for
Speaker 5: this particulicular album. You know what I'm saying, what I'm
Speaker 5: most proud of is what I'm most proud of. I
Speaker 5: feel like we did a really good job, Like we
Speaker 5: did a fantastic job dog of like capturing everything at
Speaker 5: the same time, you know what I'm saying, Like coming
Speaker 5: back to E at the end, telling them like, yo,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I want to I want
Speaker 5: to make sure we do stuff in posts E trusting
Speaker 5: me really, like certain times I wanted to take stuff
Speaker 5: away or reorganize something because I just felt like I
Speaker 5: was rapping and I couldn't compliment those.
Speaker 4: Particular hats or I had a hat pattern.
Speaker 5: Like him allowing me to tinker in the record making process,
Speaker 5: not just respecting me, you know, andto being just the MC,
Speaker 5: but allow me to make the best records that I could,
Speaker 5: to compliment the productions for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure. Man, So I'm gonna go through each one
Speaker 1: of these songs. Man, I want you each to explain
Speaker 1: to me. You know, I've heard the records already, but
Speaker 1: the people out there obviously hasn't. I'm gonna go directly
Speaker 1: the number two to cancel these nuts. What does cancel
Speaker 1: these nuts about?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: The title track?
Speaker 4: Cancel these nets? So it's funny because I think that's
Speaker 4: like self stated, you feel me.
Speaker 5: But to me, honestly, it's a lot richer than most people.
Speaker 4: Cancel these nuts.
Speaker 1: To me is like.
Speaker 5: I feel like the industry make a lot of artists,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, the powers that be, the
Speaker 5: the finance, the wealth Department makes a lot of artists,
Speaker 5: so like they can cancel them.
Speaker 4: They make you, they could break you. I always felt
Speaker 4: like I was always.
Speaker 5: Self made from the first day to the last name,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, not self made.
Speaker 4: Olivia made me.
Speaker 5: But like as far as artistry didn't know, power, structure
Speaker 5: decided I was gonna be it. Matter of fact, they
Speaker 5: fought me tooth and nail the whole time, trying to
Speaker 5: stop me from being it, and I'm still I still
Speaker 5: end up becoming it, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 5: cancel these nehsing is my attitude that I'm gonna say
Speaker 5: whatever I want to say, and really there's nothing nobody
Speaker 5: can really do about it, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: There's no nothing nobody can do. You know what I mean,
Speaker 5: because none of you motherfuckers made me.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Period, It's something that God did himself, I mean, and
Speaker 5: my parents.
Speaker 4: So this is what it's all about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at the culture and the climate
Speaker 1: that we're in right now, it's really like that time. Man,
Speaker 1: Like if you saw what they did. I know it's
Speaker 1: a touchy subject, but if you saw what they did. R.
Speaker 1: Kelly for example, Yeah, he did some stuff that wasn't cool,
Speaker 1: but it was a whole lot of people that needed
Speaker 1: to be held accountable in that mix too, and they
Speaker 1: just pretty much ruined that. Man.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, Mark Kelly's situation is unique because really,
Speaker 5: you know, if he committed a crime like any other criminal,
Speaker 5: I understand. You know why they have a you know,
Speaker 5: a penal system to try to keep balance, jac you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And I don't want without throwing
Speaker 5: any other anybody else under the bus. I don't think
Speaker 5: that's the most important part.
Speaker 4: But they made R. Kelly so they break they could
Speaker 4: break R. Kelly. They made it so they could break it.
Speaker 1: And that's what I see, and that's what I mean
Speaker 1: in his case. Right to me, it was a thing
Speaker 1: to where everybody was just kind of moved away from him.
Speaker 1: Didn't nobody want to be around them, didn't nobody want
Speaker 1: them to backlash to go on them, nobody wanted to
Speaker 1: suffer none of that heat. So it was like kind
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, we gonna throw him down the well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And it's funny because he did so much
Speaker 5: for everybody, you know what I mean. And but that's
Speaker 5: how it go I mean, man, that's why I run
Speaker 5: these niggas off the block anyway, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I don't let them be next to me anyway. I
Speaker 5: don't let him absorb my energy. I don't let him
Speaker 5: absorb my power. I don't let them I don't let
Speaker 5: him be around me, you know what I mean, Because
Speaker 5: I always already know like when it goes down, it
Speaker 5: ain't no friends. So we're not gonna fake like we're
Speaker 5: friends now. You know, maybe we could do some music,
Speaker 5: you know, maybe we could do something. But the people
Speaker 5: that fuck with me, they fuck with me right now.
Speaker 5: So that's all it is.
Speaker 1: Exactly, man, because we are living in you know, it's
Speaker 1: suppose it's to a certain level. We're supposed to have
Speaker 1: freedom of speech, right, but that seems to have been
Speaker 1: thrown out the window nowadays. It's like, if you see
Speaker 1: the thing about the wrong person, you could be in
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble.
Speaker 5: Well you got the freedom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Just come with consequence, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: to me, that's what cancel these nuts the whole album,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. First track on Down is
Speaker 5: about is regardless of the consequence, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm not looking to make friends.
Speaker 1: Now, EP, you are well reserved, brother, man, do you
Speaker 1: need to records scare you?
Speaker 3: I understand freedom of speech. I understand freedom of speech.
Speaker 3: I agree with.
Speaker 4: With the records, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I agree with with telling our song. Mmm.
Speaker 4: So they were funny to me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: It's like, all right, well let's go.
Speaker 5: I just think like a lot of it, a lot
Speaker 5: of it was just really being funny, man, Like as
Speaker 5: serious as subject matters or it was meant to be funny,
Speaker 5: it's all funny.
Speaker 1: You know. What man, and it's going on around like
Speaker 1: time gets be flying? Gee, do you realize how long
Speaker 1: then you've been messing with each other?
Speaker 4: Dog? Over twenty years now? It was crazy.
Speaker 5: I was thinking, it's crazy. So it's been eight years
Speaker 5: since I released my last album. Glass House two was
Speaker 5: like my tenth project. This makes my eleventh project, so
Speaker 5: I can put out Glasshouse two in twenty fifteen. And
Speaker 5: what really happened was in two, let's say twenty thirteen,
Speaker 5: I started to kind of fall down this this this
Speaker 5: this this.
Speaker 4: Uh, this rabbit hole of hip hop and records, you know.
Speaker 5: And I started off with records, you know, just that
Speaker 5: journey of understanding what records are about the science of
Speaker 5: communicating through songs, you know, I mean, because to me,
Speaker 5: that's what records is. It's the science of communicating through songs.
Speaker 5: People say, I use the word hit records or songs,
Speaker 5: but it's not like records are the science of communicating
Speaker 5: through songs, telling you an idea that makes it easy
Speaker 5: for you to digest.
Speaker 4: You can understand what the message I'm trying to cross
Speaker 4: to you is.
Speaker 5: Starting there, ending up in hip hop only being able
Speaker 5: to get Glasshouse Too out because it was so like,
Speaker 5: it was so much to learn all of this stuff
Speaker 5: about records and hip hop and then to end up
Speaker 5: trying to learn marketing. People don't know what the hell
Speaker 5: I went through, you know what I mean. It was
Speaker 5: just crazy. So I couldn't put out music at the
Speaker 5: same time as learning, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 5: like trying to have a job being a doctor, you know,
Speaker 5: while in medical school, you know what I mean. You
Speaker 5: got to be at the very end, and it's like
Speaker 5: you got to keep going back to school, you know,
Speaker 5: even as a doctor, gonna keep having to learn stuff.
Speaker 5: So that's what it felt like like being this kind
Speaker 5: of one man you know, it's almost like a one
Speaker 5: man army. But really you have so much respect for
Speaker 5: what everybody else do, like what EP does as a producer,
Speaker 5: what Lester and Jason Joshua and Ea Ski dos mix
Speaker 5: is what you have to do as a manager, what
Speaker 5: my job is, or what James Brown job was as
Speaker 5: a record maker. And it's like going to school to
Speaker 5: be a doctor, And it was no way I could
Speaker 5: be out being a doctor while going to school to
Speaker 5: be a doctor.
Speaker 4: And that shit beat the shit out of me, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It took a long time, so we here eight years
Speaker 5: later and I'm still grateful anyway, and now we just
Speaker 5: got Now the work begins, which is crazy because like
Speaker 5: we spent two years making this project. Me and EP
Speaker 5: started just fooling around and then we figured god a
Speaker 5: rhythm and you know, it.
Speaker 4: Didn't take a ton of time, but we just knew
Speaker 4: where we were going.
Speaker 5: So it's it's I'm happy to be here, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. It took eight years to get to
Speaker 5: this next album. It's eleventh project, but I'm grateful yet
Speaker 5: to still.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I love about it, man, is
Speaker 1: y'all really took it back to what hip hop is
Speaker 1: about the rapper and the producer actually being in the
Speaker 1: studio together banging out records instead of just sending beats
Speaker 1: over the internet, you know, emailing beats and you writing
Speaker 1: your wraps and they know there's no cohesion to that sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know, you hear records sometimes and they just sound
Speaker 1: like they're missing something that a lot of times that's
Speaker 1: the element of being in the room together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it just what the crazy is.
Speaker 5: Me and E wasn't in the room all the time.
Speaker 5: We might have been in the same room four times,
Speaker 5: but we was on the phone, probably fucking our phone
Speaker 5: numbers probably got thousands of hours.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: You know. Of course, with technology being is with it,
Speaker 1: you know today you don't necessarily have to be in
Speaker 1: the same room. But y'all was very much in concert us.
Speaker 5: No man, We was passing records back a lot of
Speaker 5: these songs, like epill tell you a lot of these songs.
Speaker 5: These are like the thirteenth and fifteenth versions of the
Speaker 5: exact songs. Yeah, like we might have went back and
Speaker 5: forth ten twelve times in small details, adding small things
Speaker 5: to hooks, like I hear Kanye should have never married
Speaker 5: that bitch right now, and I always be like that
Speaker 5: bitch belong, that bitch belonged. I should ask somebody with
Speaker 5: a d voice, come on, that bitch belong that bitch
Speaker 5: belong be long to the street. I could keep hearing
Speaker 5: that detail. Yeah, you know what I mean, and I
Speaker 5: don't have it. So I used to laugh when Dre
Speaker 5: all the niggas used to tell me they used to
Speaker 5: feel like a record wasn't finished because when I first
Speaker 5: got the bend and I'm like, oh, this record done,
Speaker 5: but now I get it. So a lot of the
Speaker 5: dumb shit I thought at first, I felt like asshole
Speaker 5: for thinking it.
Speaker 4: I would say this, I would say this. Still it
Speaker 4: boils down to one word, and that's trust.
Speaker 3: Like I trust him, you know what I mean, I
Speaker 3: trust him with the I ain't never just gain nobody
Speaker 3: my sessions, and like, hey man, just do what you
Speaker 3: do what you do, that's true, and vice versa, like
Speaker 3: he's never really done records like this, but like I know,
Speaker 3: he gets it, and he puts the right subjects to
Speaker 3: the right text of music, and it just worked. So
Speaker 3: it worked so easily and so fluently that that it
Speaker 3: was it's easy.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to do this. That's a great point.
Speaker 5: Like it was times I was like, yo, he sent
Speaker 5: me the session, and I might not want to arrange nothing,
Speaker 5: but like I might need to really just you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like do something here. I need to
Speaker 5: move something so I could do something right here and
Speaker 5: then I can bring it back so you know, and
Speaker 5: a lot of times I even engineered, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 3: I'll send him back some shit I could to say, gee,
Speaker 3: let me give your credits too, because a lot of
Speaker 3: them drops you here on the records, Bro, that's him.
Speaker 4: He created them drops in spaces and even some of
Speaker 4: the collaps and rhythms. And I'm like, only a hand
Speaker 4: for only.
Speaker 1: She is actually turning into a really good all around artist.
Speaker 1: He's producing, yeah, you know what, you know he's producing. Now,
Speaker 1: he's writing. And I remember it used to be funny
Speaker 1: when I first met G and he make records. I
Speaker 1: always knew he was a bad motherfucker on the mic, right,
Speaker 1: but we was.
Speaker 4: You know, we start fucking hook sound like a rap?
Speaker 4: Like why do your hook sound like a rap?
Speaker 1: To kind of tell him because he was in there
Speaker 1: making records now here, I'm just going off on his
Speaker 1: hook and I'd be like, bru, that sounds like another
Speaker 1: damn verse. Man, It's like shorten that sh up.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: What's crazy is I ain't grew up listening Like I
Speaker 5: grew up listening to music, but I didn't grow up
Speaker 5: wanting even be a rapper, So structure was not my
Speaker 5: strong suit.
Speaker 1: But again we.
Speaker 5: Though, like White Lightning, we don't don't get a lot
Speaker 5: of credit because he moved to Atlanta. It was dope
Speaker 5: working with EP like he This is the truth like
Speaker 5: it ain't about EP is the producer of the project.
Speaker 4: But we made records together like we're gonna go back
Speaker 4: and forth and I'm gonna keep pushing him.
Speaker 5: And it was really wonderful, doggor It really was fun,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like the business side, we
Speaker 5: got so much stuff to do, man, But it's like
Speaker 5: it was. It was, it was. It was better. It
Speaker 5: was a It was a better experience than I thought
Speaker 5: it actually would be.
Speaker 1: You know what I think about sometimes, man, And I
Speaker 1: really think about this, man, just from where you at
Speaker 1: as an artist, man in the chemistry that when EP
Speaker 1: got I'd be thinking sometimes, Man, I wish you would
Speaker 1: have had this shit when we was on the Big Boys.
Speaker 5: Funny man, it wouldn't have worked as well like I
Speaker 5: mean it had been. I think I would have had
Speaker 5: way better records, you know what I mean than I
Speaker 5: had to some degree, especially the second you know, move
Speaker 5: a Beach Cruiser.
Speaker 4: But it's better now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: To sound crazy, and I know we don't got you know,
Speaker 5: Birdman writing four million dollar checks, but the music is
Speaker 5: so powerful in itself that it's going to create four
Speaker 5: million dollars worth of promotion no matter what so I
Speaker 5: always I thought of that. I'm like, damn, man, I
Speaker 5: wish I'd been having EP do this and that. And
Speaker 5: then I, you know, again, questioning God ain't necessarily the
Speaker 5: smartest move. You know he got He put EP right
Speaker 5: in my and my and my wheelhouse right when I
Speaker 5: needed in there, you know what I mean, when it
Speaker 5: would make sense when I could appreciate even what he does,
Speaker 5: Like my appreciation for what he does is unbelievable versus
Speaker 5: when I first met him, I just knew he made
Speaker 5: beats and he could play. I didn't really understand, you
Speaker 5: know what, being a real you know player mint that
Speaker 5: shit is different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. We was just talking about that, and
Speaker 1: I was telling the man, I wish I could play
Speaker 1: the piano, because it's different. When you were up there
Speaker 1: and EP was just in there playing ship without looking
Speaker 1: at it, that was me.
Speaker 4: I'm on that motherfucking EP.
Speaker 5: And this is the point, like, this is where nobody understands,
Speaker 5: And this is where it won't matter when you listen
Speaker 5: to cancel these nuts unless you really know this motherfuckering
Speaker 5: straight up.
Speaker 4: He don't loop the melody lines.
Speaker 1: Through. Ain't that something else?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I gotta I gotta thank G too, because like
Speaker 3: me and G had a conversation. Bro like it. It
Speaker 3: goes back and forth. Because we had a conversation. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: I gotta get my name in the street. I'm tired
Speaker 3: of these little niggas like man E P.
Speaker 4: I heard EP.
Speaker 3: He's like, no, nigga, I'm finna get your name back
Speaker 3: because I do stuff for Tech nine and jay Z
Speaker 3: and all these but it ain't in my backyard, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I met G when I
Speaker 3: did Bastards of the Party the whole soundtrack, so Bone
Speaker 3: introduced me to him. But the record he put he
Speaker 3: made on there was he put a hook on it
Speaker 3: by one of my favorite artists, which is uh with
Speaker 3: John Mayer waiting on the world, waiting for the world
Speaker 3: to change.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, how.
Speaker 3: Did this this dude come up with that hook for
Speaker 3: that song. So I had an appreciation for him because
Speaker 3: of the musical IQ was so high even back then
Speaker 3: that was what like seven o nine something like that,
Speaker 3: and we always said we're gonna work together, and like.
Speaker 5: He said, dumb, we learned stuff alone the line, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, we knocked out other records and I came
Speaker 5: and did something. He did something for me, playing on
Speaker 5: stuff on white Lightning and two you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But like when I when I finally came out of
Speaker 5: this cocoon, you know what I mean, like like this
Speaker 5: metamorphosis and be coming to like this this like I'm
Speaker 5: really a professional rapper. Like I went from being a
Speaker 5: street nigga, like a nigga that used to sell drugs
Speaker 5: and gang man and thought I was getting over on
Speaker 5: the rap industry to becoming a professional rapper, professional record
Speaker 5: So you know, coming EP, it was just at the
Speaker 5: right time where you know, I knew exactly in my mind,
Speaker 5: I knew exactly what to do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Once we once we caught one.
Speaker 5: All it took was one because we did about four
Speaker 5: records before we caught one, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is where we're gonna murder at.
Speaker 3: And this is still this is odd too, because we
Speaker 3: made up tempo records very very easily, and normally those
Speaker 3: are the records that are the hardest to make because
Speaker 3: people over think those records and they like I need
Speaker 3: a hit, I need to hit them, and me and
Speaker 3: G was just knocking them out the park.
Speaker 4: Organically without even trying.
Speaker 1: That's when you use to get your best work. You
Speaker 1: know what I want to do, g Before we continue
Speaker 1: on with the album, I want to do a six
Speaker 1: to seven minute breakdown to just your history and music
Speaker 1: from where you came from to where you are at
Speaker 1: this moment, because I really feel like that this is
Speaker 1: kind of like your what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 1: This is your shining moments, your grand moment right this
Speaker 1: album right here, this is the culmination of y'all work
Speaker 1: and just me seeing y'all just do what y'all do
Speaker 1: over the past few years. Right, I don't think people realized.
Speaker 1: I want them to get an appreciation. Man, you came out, man,
Speaker 1: you came out of games Camp and had one of
Speaker 1: the biggest buzzes on the West Coast that somebody had
Speaker 1: in a long time, right Yeah, yeah, because I was
Speaker 1: listening to you and I was like, I remember my
Speaker 1: boy black toning up in the shop talking about you,
Speaker 1: and then you was up there. You know, one day
Speaker 1: you was playing your record that you had with battle Cat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you was playing with your record that you had with
Speaker 1: battle Cat Man. And you know, to go from there, man,
Speaker 1: to having this bidding war man that going to Sony Man,
Speaker 1: do you ever feel like, man, that you've lived a
Speaker 1: thousand lives in this industry?
Speaker 5: Shit, Before I got into the industry, just being in
Speaker 5: the streets, you know, you sell shrim and shit and
Speaker 5: you gang bang man that you.
Speaker 4: Feel like you lived a thousand dollars there.
Speaker 5: So coming into the industry, you know, I really didn't
Speaker 5: know what to expect. Honestly, I really will. I really
Speaker 5: had different.
Speaker 4: Plans for myself. I wanted to have more.
Speaker 5: Like a death Row, like a street funded like like
Speaker 5: a dope boy funded street label, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: They put out records under there, and you know, I
Speaker 5: got through into the real major leagues, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like not like death Row. It was like, yo,
Speaker 5: you gotta make records with Lil Wayne at this point,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So before I even got
Speaker 5: to the industry, I felt like I lived a thousand lives.
Speaker 5: Then in the industry, I've been through hell and back,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Upside down it's nothing.
Speaker 1: So you can guys put another project like this right man,
Speaker 1: and you're going through what all you've been through. It's
Speaker 1: almost like you went to college. That's what it really
Speaker 1: feels like.
Speaker 5: And it's a lot more like medical school than anything because.
Speaker 1: Actually, like you know, like you're actually in a graduate school,
Speaker 1: Like you just graduated graduate school with this right here.
Speaker 5: You know what's funny, Man, I put in probably roughly
Speaker 5: purely three years on just records, just understanding what records were.
Speaker 5: Then I put in another two three years on understanding
Speaker 5: what hip hop was like being able to simplify it
Speaker 5: into one, two, three, four five. It's why we always argue,
Speaker 5: Like I always, even people like you who grew up
Speaker 5: in the thick of everything, I'm like, nonfool.
Speaker 4: You just was living it.
Speaker 5: There's a real consistency of exactly what it is over
Speaker 5: and over again. And I feel that's why my opinion
Speaker 5: is so strong, because I gave blood up, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, the same something I was doing playing,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? I made it twenty four hours
Speaker 5: a day. And it's funny because marketing is a thing
Speaker 5: I spent the least amount of time understanding. But I
Speaker 5: felt like I would say I have a doctorates in marketing,
Speaker 5: Like I have conversations with people with master's degree in marketing,
Speaker 5: and I'll be schooling them because they don't fucking know.
Speaker 5: I put a lot of the ideas and their wheelhouse
Speaker 5: that make it simple to term hip hop. I feel
Speaker 5: like I got a master's, But records is always something.
Speaker 4: I feel like, there's so much more to learn.
Speaker 1: Oh what's a forever evolving thing?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: Like like hip hop, I feel like I don't have
Speaker 5: a ton much more to learn. It's more about feeling
Speaker 5: in some dots of history here and there. Marketing is
Speaker 5: pretty much a philosophy that can be evolved into however,
Speaker 5: you know, whatever place it needs to live. But records, man,
Speaker 5: it's so many fucking records to learn. And that's why.
Speaker 5: Like when I look at somebody like doctor Dre and
Speaker 5: I think about, you know, two thousand and one, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 4: He took a picture in front of.
Speaker 5: Those vinyls, and I'm like, oh my god, I finally
Speaker 5: understand what it means. Even like he as a as
Speaker 5: a real professional player of music and a part of
Speaker 5: a band and conductor of a band. It's like my
Speaker 5: respect for him is different because you know, you go
Speaker 5: back to guys like James Brown. Those guys have to
Speaker 5: play music to eat dinnerible.
Speaker 1: I just don't video shoot. Saturday brought. I said, man,
Speaker 1: where was you? Where you're coming from? He said, man,
Speaker 1: I just had to play. I said, man, how awesome
Speaker 1: is that that you get to go your job? Is
Speaker 1: you actually doing what you love and you just go
Speaker 1: I want to play some music.
Speaker 5: But think about it, like when you when people look
Speaker 5: at artists like James Brown and they wonder why it
Speaker 5: worked them. Dudes was traveling around the South, you know,
Speaker 5: for two years playing music to eat dinner. Like I
Speaker 5: was telling Metro this shout out to my boy Metro
Speaker 5: with Thomas Music and his artists, and he was like,
Speaker 5: his artists were struggling to kind of cross over into
Speaker 5: the business. And I'm like, that's because they don't have
Speaker 5: to do this to eat dinner. Like even people ask
Speaker 5: me how was I able to get a deal so fast,
Speaker 5: you know, my situation with White Lightning to move so
Speaker 5: many CDs. I'm like, because they got to the point
Speaker 5: to where I was doing this to eat dinner, So
Speaker 5: there was no room.
Speaker 4: To be fucking.
Speaker 5: I had to understand and learn what was going on.
Speaker 5: And so when I back to the records, when I
Speaker 5: when I look at him, you know, somebody like EP
Speaker 5: who plays he knows what everybody's this to. When he
Speaker 5: go plays at a party. He got to play the
Speaker 5: songs people want to dance to or they want book
Speaker 5: his ass again. And don't get me wrong, he might
Speaker 5: got now you know, if he got some royalty money
Speaker 5: and some money from other little stuff, and but he
Speaker 5: need that and you know, he need to play the
Speaker 5: music that they want to hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have it you?
Speaker 5: I mean, So it's nothing when he comes in there
Speaker 5: and he starts to play music to make an album,
Speaker 5: because he already playing what made people like you know,
Speaker 5: as we start working on the next project, which is
Speaker 5: gonna come back, it's gonna come together a lot faster.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: We just gonna keep focusing on what people want to
Speaker 5: hear to make them be on the dance floor and
Speaker 5: and escape their real life for that four hours that
Speaker 5: that him and the band is playing, and him and
Speaker 5: with him and Furnished and the Furnace band.
Speaker 1: Is playing exactly man. You know one of the songs
Speaker 1: on here, man's a testament to your marketing progress. Man,
Speaker 1: it's Kanye should have never married that bitch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to the panic at the disco. It's
Speaker 4: funny is me. EP talked about that for four days.
Speaker 5: People think that was like some tongue in cheek shit
Speaker 5: where I was just like, oh, let me just talk
Speaker 5: about Kanye, and it was like, no, we made the record.
Speaker 5: The rerecord didn't even have that title. The record was
Speaker 5: just the record byself and it was great. But it
Speaker 5: was like, yo, like why should people care what happened
Speaker 5: to that bitch? Most of these people are not streaked,
Speaker 5: especially in today's time, so even the lingo, like when
Speaker 5: we say a bitch belongs to the street, they can't
Speaker 5: even recognize that lingo and slang itself is not as
Speaker 5: phenomenal as it once was, you know, appealing to mainstream.
Speaker 5: And I remember calling EP telling them like, yeah, we
Speaker 5: need to figure out we need to put this in
Speaker 5: the mainstream publics, right in their perspective so they can
Speaker 5: be like, oh, that type of girl.
Speaker 4: And so we start.
Speaker 5: Talking about it, and you know, I remember this nigga
Speaker 5: worked with Kanye three four five albums. I'm like, shit,
Speaker 5: I was like, this motherfucker got the perfect motherfucker. He's like, well,
Speaker 5: you know what, gee, niggo, He'll.
Speaker 4: Be all right, it's cool. This is what we're doing.
Speaker 5: And I remember just reading so many old titles, them
Speaker 5: long titles.
Speaker 4: Panic at the Disco.
Speaker 5: I was in high school when that shit came out,
Speaker 5: and I remember just these as titles, and I was thinking,
Speaker 5: like you only have when you look on a playlist
Speaker 5: on Spotify, though you don't even get to see the picture.
Speaker 4: The picture is tiny, the artist name is tiny.
Speaker 5: The only thing you can see is the title of
Speaker 5: the song, like, Yo, we need something long as fuck.
Speaker 4: So when people read it, they like, what the fuck
Speaker 4: kind of you know what I mean? And yeah, but
Speaker 4: it wasn't like some people like to call a term.
Speaker 5: I think I used to hear all the time it's clickbait,
Speaker 5: and it's like, that's not clickbait.
Speaker 4: That bitch really belongs to the street.
Speaker 1: Well, actually what you did, man, is you discovered seo
Speaker 1: as well. That's a long tail keyword that you created.
Speaker 1: You know, kind should have never made.
Speaker 4: It's a conversation piece, but.
Speaker 1: Piece, you created a long tail keyword, man, And I
Speaker 1: won't you know, get in that. That's a whole nother science, right,
Speaker 1: But I noticed, I said, Man, the titles that you
Speaker 1: come up with, you don't waste, You don't waste space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you take everything serious. Now, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people when I've talked to a lot of the other homies,
Speaker 1: a lot of the you know, other rappers in La Man,
Speaker 1: she is dope. He just overthink stuff. I say, no,
Speaker 1: he's not really overthinking, and he's just doing it right.
Speaker 1: He's striving for perfection or really just trying to reach
Speaker 1: their violent records.
Speaker 5: And because everybody else feel like if they put out
Speaker 5: a thousand records, they'll get there. That's the point where
Speaker 5: records it really take one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Nobody got there with a thousand records. It still only
Speaker 5: took one. We can talk about a thousand records, it
Speaker 5: took one. You feel me Like Michael Jackson is still thriller.
Speaker 5: It take one, you know what I'm saying. So everyone
Speaker 5: deserves Dre says something that's really dope. Everything's important. I
Speaker 5: spell them with two e's everything's important. With the E
Speaker 5: it's E square everything's important. So if I can't take
Speaker 5: a little extra time to figure out the title, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's one song.
Speaker 5: Something like we're doing all this content for people to
Speaker 5: discover this dope ass music. It's gonna take one song
Speaker 5: at one time, and when that one time happened, that song.
Speaker 4: Need to have layers.
Speaker 1: Exactly believe that. I believe that because that one song
Speaker 1: is going to bring everybody back to your previous releases
Speaker 1: and go have them anticipate in everything that you put
Speaker 1: out in the future. So it's definitely a very important thing. Man.
Speaker 1: I think people underestimate.
Speaker 4: Man, the motherfucker live right now to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was this live right now.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and get this out there
Speaker 1: to the people. Man, I want each one of y'all
Speaker 1: tell these people why they need to go out there
Speaker 1: and stream this motherfucker. We mean, you both talked about
Speaker 1: the importance and shit and making it matter, Like why
Speaker 1: why should people go stream this album? Right now?
Speaker 5: My mind, man, it's the voice of the barbershop. Don't
Speaker 5: be scared. It's the same thing we're saying the barbershop.
Speaker 5: I'm just telling the rest of these I'm just telling
Speaker 5: the white people, man, they just didn't know. I'm making
Speaker 5: sure they know, so you ain't gotta deal with the
Speaker 5: embarrassment of saying the same thing we're saying the barbershop
Speaker 5: to the white people. So I'm representing you. Just let me,
Speaker 5: you know, go listen to it and be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: he represented. You ain't gotta even tell nobody else, just
Speaker 5: you know, it's.
Speaker 4: True, and it's conversation.
Speaker 3: It's conversation over quality music too, and we ain't trying
Speaker 3: to sound like nobody else.
Speaker 4: We cultivating our own sound.
Speaker 3: We got the drums up today, wrapped in music and melody,
Speaker 3: and you can there's no way you can beat.
Speaker 1: That, No way at all. Man. You know I was
Speaker 1: talked about those physical copies. Early physical copies are available
Speaker 1: of the album right now.
Speaker 4: Signed dot com, man store dot com.
Speaker 1: You need to head over to the cryptstore dot com.
Speaker 1: This is what you need to do. You need to
Speaker 1: go on order you a T shirt. You need to
Speaker 1: go on order a ball cap, you know, so you
Speaker 1: can listen to the record and stop.
Speaker 4: That you called it because of ball cap. Well, you
Speaker 4: is country, you know what I get it.
Speaker 5: But that's like when niggas say pop pop the club,
Speaker 5: you'd be like, oh, we're going to the.
Speaker 4: Hot The movies is the pictures show the pictures shop.
Speaker 5: You call your TV shows, you call your TV shows programs.
Speaker 5: I'm watching my program. That's what we need to write next.
Speaker 5: A program.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to write program for real. So, so
Speaker 1: what's going on with the cryptstore dot com?
Speaker 4: Bro fires man, just all the crippiest crip ship you
Speaker 4: could add. Yeah, I'm working I'm working on.
Speaker 5: I'm working on making sure I create one of the
Speaker 5: greatest experiences for the average every day and similar to
Speaker 5: feel crippy and get cript out and enjoy the culture,
Speaker 5: you know, without having to dive for it.
Speaker 4: So come support the cryptstore dot Com.
Speaker 1: Exactly because at this crypt story, everybody is welcome. We're welcome.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I got so many, so many in my blood homies
Speaker 5: that hate crips, you know them niggas hate crips. But
Speaker 5: they was like glasses, I got you, so you know,
Speaker 5: it takes me back. It's my personal trap. It feel
Speaker 5: good to have a trap again, feel good to have
Speaker 5: my own spot again.
Speaker 1: Man, for sure, for sure, Man, I'm gonna go stream
Speaker 1: this album man, because you know what's so funny is management.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I feel like I never get to enjoy just the
Speaker 1: floor for them because I always hear the pieces. I
Speaker 1: hear five or six different versions of songs and sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's verses you put out to
Speaker 1: last hear that's what.
Speaker 5: You do to this what you do to a different
Speaker 5: But some of the greatest things in the world is
Speaker 5: fooling you, you know what I mean? Like your mind
Speaker 5: is so good with this this ship, and you're you're
Speaker 5: really good at records of hip hop and marketing, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. But some of the best part
Speaker 5: is when I get you you what.
Speaker 4: The fuck is that?
Speaker 2: I know what that is?
Speaker 1: You know, hear stuff that y'all do, and I like,
Speaker 1: I know what they need. They need something different, but
Speaker 1: I can't catch it. And I don't want to tell
Speaker 1: him because he's like, no, you ain't got a big
Speaker 1: got you.
Speaker 4: Lost your thorns, big bro, you ain't got your record
Speaker 4: here no more.
Speaker 1: I'll be hearing it, man, that's what I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put my bluetooth phone. Man, I'm gonna put my beach
Speaker 1: By Draise here. Man, I'm about to jam this.
Speaker 4: Mother, I'm going enjoy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me once again.
Speaker 1: We double back, sure, and I'm gonna tell y'all like
Speaker 1: this this is big steal breakdown on the record. Man.
Speaker 1: It's a sham and ass record.
Speaker 4: That's what I promise you that it is.
Speaker 5: It is a really Killer Mike said he got the
Speaker 5: album of the year. I think my album on Killing
Speaker 5: Mike album right now, Yeah, I gotta kind of slam
Speaker 5: back to back and compare him. I might do that
Speaker 5: a live, but like what Kill Mike? What Killer Mike
Speaker 5: has a substance my album? You know, my album makes
Speaker 5: up with attitude?
Speaker 1: Man. I told eight and Soaring Baker's were doing the
Speaker 1: top fifty gangster rap albums of all time, and it's
Speaker 1: getting kind of heated as we come towards you know,
Speaker 1: those like Final twenty, those Top twenty, because there have
Speaker 1: been so many just classic albums, and really, man, hearing
Speaker 1: this album, I really believe man, that this album when
Speaker 1: it came out fighting a month ago, we'd be having
Speaker 1: a whole different conversation. I'm even thinking about throwing it
Speaker 1: in there. That's why I want to listen to it
Speaker 1: to night in this entirety, and I want to you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to seem biased, because see when I
Speaker 1: talk about you were eight, I don't want nobody thinking
Speaker 1: of he's just saying that because he got this. No,
Speaker 1: it ain't like that. I'm very honest.
Speaker 4: It might be, Yeah, I don't know. That's that's I don't.
Speaker 1: Know if it's top twenty, bro, but it's for sure.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I was banging more than the
Speaker 5: shadiest one, but I'm sure y'all don't have the shadiest
Speaker 5: one in this proper position.
Speaker 1: So I don't know the shadiest one is actually one
Speaker 1: of our records in that though. Man, that's for the
Speaker 1: to wait and find out, like everybody.
Speaker 5: Okay, So it's somewhere in the top twenty five. Yeah, somewhere, okay,
Speaker 5: long because if it wasn't in the top twenty five,
Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna I was gonna disregard y'all opinion completely.
Speaker 1: You know it is, man Dub put his foot in this,
Speaker 1: But I would say, man, that cancel these nuts. Man,
Speaker 1: I think you know it's hard to defind it. See,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in calling the record the classic. Man,
Speaker 1: until it's been out, you don't know if it's in
Speaker 1: the classic to five ten years down the line.
Speaker 5: Well, to me, it ain't even I don't even use
Speaker 5: that term no more because I don't know if we
Speaker 5: have the time for it.
Speaker 4: But what I definitely want to do is make.
Speaker 5: It a timestamp of twenty twenty three and twenty four.
Speaker 5: I want you to feel like, eventually, somewhere along the line,
Speaker 5: this album had to mean something to you or represented something,
Speaker 5: or you didn't like something about it during that time.
Speaker 5: And I think that that becomes the goal now that
Speaker 5: we got it out, because we didn't do a ton
Speaker 5: of marketing up front.
Speaker 4: What's funny is we just start marketing and idea this.
Speaker 5: Week and people starting to see the ideas and like,
Speaker 5: it's crazy to watch them come to life and people
Speaker 5: just be enamored, like wow, you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, and we just I can say one thing is
Speaker 3: doing is bringing back the feeling of man, uh, I'm
Speaker 3: glad you saying it.
Speaker 4: Somebody needs to say.
Speaker 3: It's hands down is getting that reaction so I can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely a recovery mission. It's not a discovery
Speaker 5: mission like hip hop used to be. It's more of
Speaker 5: a like recovering the thing that the West Coast represented.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure, we got I know, we got
Speaker 1: a few people on this platform. So this is what
Speaker 1: I need y'all to do. Go to the description. They're
Speaker 1: going to be links in there. I need y'all to
Speaker 1: head over to the cryptstore dot com, going to get
Speaker 1: your you know, your start a little set.
Speaker 5: They got cassettes, flash drives, autograph CDs, some close everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for all y'all niggas out there that still got
Speaker 1: boomboxes in your run, got you you know, and those
Speaker 1: are great collector pieces too, But everything is down there.
Speaker 1: I want you, guys man to go really stream the
Speaker 1: album right, leave a comment like you hip on his Instagram.
Speaker 1: Leave let him know what you think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll let us know you get eddp in them comments.
Speaker 5: That'll let us know where we should be going next
Speaker 5: next run.
Speaker 4: I mean, where we're going.
Speaker 5: I got an idea for sure, but I just I
Speaker 5: would love to see y'all opinion on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And this is against the Chronicles and
Speaker 1: we signing.
Speaker 4: Off, so chanst the Rap Chronicles.
Speaker 1: I knew you was gonna say that for some reason.
Speaker 1: And we out of here piece Yeah,