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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Pot all right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: He stumbled, and football the Lateral turn a counter on

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Speaker 2: the job. Don't you believe that I'm not gonna table

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Speaker 2: up the deal to night.

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Speaker 3: It's not the side of the dog in the fighting,

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Speaker 2: What's up, Degenerate Nation, Welcome to the Big Bets on

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Speaker 2: Campus Podcast. This is the Big twelve Betting Preview. I'm

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Speaker 2: stucky and back as my co host and ready to roll.

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Speaker 2: It's the one only Colin Wilson. Colin, We're back. We

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Speaker 2: had some we had some fun with the Mike and

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Speaker 2: Mike do such a great job for us on the

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Speaker 2: Group of Five previews. And you and I will have

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Speaker 2: an episode where we kind of recap everything and get

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Speaker 2: into those our thoughts on those ourselves and we can

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Speaker 2: have a little banter about some of the teams. But

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Speaker 2: it's nice to be back. And if you haven't listen

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Speaker 2: to a Group of Five, make sure you go do that.

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Speaker 2: Machin just came out today, some good stuff in that

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Speaker 2: episode as always, and we're right into our Power five.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we got Big twelve today, tomorrow Acced and

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Speaker 2: Big ten and Seced and the last and certainly least,

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Speaker 2: as our producer would say, at the PAC twelve and

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Speaker 2: then like week zero is going to be here? What's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 1: Colin over under on the pack told podcasts being about

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Speaker 1: twelve minutes long, we'll figure it out now the group

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Speaker 1: of five podcasts. If you guys haven't listened to them,

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Speaker 1: go back. I mean, just the way things are set

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Speaker 1: up in the Power five these days, stuck. It seems

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Speaker 1: impossible for a thirty to one, forty to one to

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Speaker 1: actually cash in. But you know in the MAC Central

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Speaker 1: Michigan was like three hundred to one after they took

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Speaker 1: their first loss in the first game of the MAC

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Speaker 1: season and they came back to win the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And I know from the podcast Sid I cut with

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Speaker 1: Mike and Mike a couple of long shots out there

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Speaker 1: that I think people should be grabbing. So definitely go

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Speaker 1: back and listen to those G fives because that's where

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Speaker 1: you can hit those long shots. I think something like

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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve a little bit tougher to hit a

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Speaker 1: long shot future in this conference.

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Speaker 2: However, it's not like the SEC or the Big Ten,

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Speaker 2: where Ohio State and Alabama are significant favorites and they're

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Speaker 2: significantly head and shoulders above the third best team in

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Speaker 2: the country. This year, the Big Twelve, you can make

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Speaker 2: an argument for a few teams and we'll get into them.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of change, like if you go through

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Speaker 2: each of the Power Five conferences, just to highlight this ready,

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Speaker 2: there are three new head coaches, five new offensive coordinators

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Speaker 2: of the ten teams, four new defensive coordinators, so almost

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Speaker 2: half of the coordinators are new. Three quarterback battles. Texas

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Speaker 2: Tech TCU have new everything, so they have new coordinator,

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Speaker 2: new head coach, and a quarterback battle. There's a chance

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Speaker 2: that nine of the ten teams in the Big Twelve

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Speaker 2: will have a different Game one starter at quarterback than

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Speaker 2: they did Game one last year, the one exception being

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Speaker 2: Spencer Sanders at Oklahoma State, which is a nice transition

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Speaker 2: into our guests for the Big Twelve pot. We will

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Speaker 2: have various guests, not all from action for our Power

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Speaker 2: Five podcast, but for this one we had to bring

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma State alumni and our own college football insider,

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Speaker 2: mister Bret McMurphy was going on Brett.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, good to talk to you again. It's it's

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Speaker 4: been a while, but excited to get the season going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's uh. I know you guys did the media

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Speaker 2: days Big twelve included my highlight we just talked. I

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Speaker 2: just talked about this before the show is when Petekwakowski

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Speaker 2: did a Texas defensive coordinator was asked about the past

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Speaker 2: rush last year and he said, what pass rush? I

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Speaker 2: kind of liked that self upcat humor. But do you

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Speaker 2: want to give a few highlights or something that kind

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Speaker 2: from the Big twelve media Days.

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Speaker 4: But Divinables obviously Bran Venables had the probably the quote

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Speaker 4: of the preseason, drinking from a fire hose.

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Speaker 2: It's been just like you would expect.

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Speaker 1: The fire hose is fully inserted in my mouth here

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Speaker 4: And so although Clark Lee a Vanderbilt when he said

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Speaker 4: country one day, I think he's closing fast.

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Speaker 5: On the outside.

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Speaker 2: We know that in time, Vannable football will be the

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of uncertainty. Not a lot of

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Speaker 4: people know what the future of the Big Twelve is

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Speaker 4: going to be. You know what teams are going to

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Speaker 4: be in it. Are they going to add new teams,

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Speaker 4: are they going to be poached by other teams? And

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Speaker 4: like you mentioned, there's a lot of coaching turnover. New commissioner.

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Speaker 5: It was the first.

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Speaker 4: Public appearance of Brett or Mark, the new Big Twelve commissioner.

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Speaker 4: Are going to talk to him for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But on the field stuff, you're dead right, it's wide open.

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Speaker 4: The AP poll comes out the next Monday. I already

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Speaker 4: put in my ballot. I have Baylor the highest ranked team.

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Speaker 4: They're only at number ten. I have Oklahoma State and

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Speaker 4: I think twelve and Oklahoma thirteen.

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Speaker 5: Those are only three Big twelve teams. I have my

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Speaker 4: And you could convince me to take maybe TCU over

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Speaker 4: any of those guys, or you could you could switch

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Speaker 4: those three schools in any order you wanted. I'd had

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Speaker 4: no argument with that. I think that's how mixed up

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Speaker 4: and how balanced this league is, which obviously you know,

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Speaker 4: could impact their chances to get to the college football

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Speaker 4: Playoff if they don't have that one dominant team to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think that there's going to be sort

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Speaker 2: of a cannibalization effect here where there's not that much

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Speaker 2: which is going to eliminate them from playoff contention. Is

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Speaker 2: that how you see it playing out, Yes, Douck.

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Speaker 5: I don't see anybody in the league finishing with fewer

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Speaker 4: And if you've got two losses, you're not going to

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Speaker 4: get to the college football playoff, at least not the

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Speaker 4: four team version. Maybe somebody will surprise me. I just think,

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Speaker 4: don't think anybody gets through league play non conference play.

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Speaker 4: We get to the first week of December, I think

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Speaker 4: whoever is in the Big Twelve championship game, both teams

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially tough for Texas if everything works out for Texas,

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Speaker 2: but they play Alabama, right, So like your margin for

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Speaker 2: play each other. They're tough. Out of conference game is

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Speaker 2: you can certainly make a case that everyone's going to

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Speaker 2: have a couple losses heading into the Big Twelve championship game.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into more on the field stuff, do

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Speaker 2: you have any update on anything breaking or over the

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Speaker 2: past week or just rumors you're hearing about realignment as

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Speaker 2: it pertains to the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean really, while we're talking, something could happen,

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Speaker 4: and by the time this thing gets posted Tuesday, things

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Speaker 4: may have changed. I don't think it's going to move

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Speaker 4: to root for. If again, if you have an interest

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Speaker 4: once that happens, then anywhere from two to four teams

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Speaker 4: and then I think you could see the Big twelve

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Speaker 4: with sixteen schools. The Big ten would have sixteen or more,

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Speaker 4: the SEC would have sixteen, and the ACC would have fourteen,

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Speaker 4: and those would kind of be your four power conferences.

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Speaker 4: The PAC twelve would kind of be fending for itself,

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Speaker 4: or whatever schools are left over would have to go

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Speaker 4: join the Mountain West.

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Speaker 2: Yep that media days. I believe you talked a lot

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Speaker 2: with Sonny Dykes and Joey Maguire, the new coaches at

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Speaker 2: TCU and Texas Tech respectively. I like the coordinators they

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Speaker 2: all brought it. I mean bringing in Kittley from Western

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Speaker 2: the I think most underrated defensive coordinators in the country,

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Speaker 2: bringing him into TCU along with Garrett Riley as the

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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator. Either one of those teams you think

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Speaker 2: moves stick out to you more than the other, or

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean Maguire, you know I talked specifically

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Speaker 4: with him about Kittley. Obviously he kept an eye on

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Speaker 4: what Western Kentucky did last year with our favorite Bailey Zappy.

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Speaker 4: You know, Texas Tech kind of like the old Kingsbury Day.

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Speaker 4: They're going to put up a ton of points. Can

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Speaker 4: they stop anybody? I think still they're going to finish

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Speaker 5: TCU.

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Speaker 4: I think somebody that you know I talked about. There's

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Speaker 4: a lot of balance in the Big twelve. I know

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Speaker 4: Colin I think may have a future on TCU to

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Speaker 4: win the Big twelve. I like TCUs as an outside

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Speaker 4: if you get all those top three. I like TCU.

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Speaker 4: I was able to talk to Sonny Dikes about you know,

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Speaker 4: Colin had mentioned to me, you know the pace TCU

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Speaker 4: you know you got you guys were like one hundred

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Speaker 4: in pace last year at TCU was anyway, you weren't

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Speaker 4: at SMU. What's it going to look like this year?

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Speaker 4: And I think SMU with Dykes was in the top twenty.

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Speaker 4: And he said, well, we're going to be a lot

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Speaker 4: closer to twenty than we are to one hundred and thirty.

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Speaker 5: So I think TCU with Dykes is going to.

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Speaker 4: Run a lot more up tempo, quicker pace, and just

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Speaker 4: talking with Sonny, he's very confident. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 4: they're going to run the table, but I think he

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Speaker 4: feels like he's finally got a lot of these Texas

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Speaker 5: He'd never really had him.

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Speaker 4: At cal SMU, Y're maybe the sixth, seventh, eighth best

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Speaker 4: at TCU, and I would I would look at TCU

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Speaker 4: if I was going to pick somebody out of those three.

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Speaker 5: I agree with Colin on this.

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Speaker 4: I would pick tc you to maybe be a surprise

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Speaker 4: and get to the title game, maybe possibly win the

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Speaker 4: Big twelve Championship.

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Speaker 1: The big breaking news, I guess overnight as we're recording this,

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Speaker 1: kil Gundy will be leaving Oklahoma. He's such a big

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Speaker 1: part of the program, the Gundhy's in general in the

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Speaker 1: state of Oklahoma. You know, do we expect any more

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Speaker 1: fallout from this kil Gundy? Is there any other anything

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, as we mentioned, are a lum. The win

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still bitter about that.

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Speaker 4: Looking at Collins Power ratings, Oklahoma State's favored in eight games,

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Speaker 5: Colin has them about an eight eight and a half

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Speaker 4: I'd like to go over the eight and a half,

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Speaker 5: It's not Jim Knowles. How much will that impact them?

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Speaker 5: I think that's a bonus broke on the state.

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Speaker 4: My brain says take the under eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: But you heard it here first, if Oklahoma State beats

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick with Baylor. I'm going with Baylor. I

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Speaker 4: bring up the breaking news. On Monday, the USA Today

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Speaker 4: Though I don't know how you missed that, but I

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Speaker 2: It was either Colin Wilson or what did what did

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Speaker 2: ESPN refer to you as in breaking news to what publication? Publication?

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Speaker 2: The publication? All right, Bret, thanks for joining us as always,

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Speaker 2: throughout the season. Enjoy the rest of your week, brother.

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Speaker 5: All Right, guys, take it easy on Colin stick go votes.

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Speaker 2: All right, Colin, let's dive in to the Big twelve,

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Speaker 2: and as we will do with each and every conference,

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Speaker 2: So you're going from Alex Grinch to Venables and Ted Ruf.

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Speaker 2: Win total sitting at nine. Their toughest two games they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, first off, the fire hose is

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Speaker 1: They couldn't even make the graphic fast enough for him

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Speaker 1: and Jones did at Clemson. And that makes me a

436
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 1: little bit worried because there's a lot of fresh faces

437
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 1: in the linebacker corps and be invinable system, you have

438
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. So just fifty percent

439
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: of the pressure's returned from last year. Defensive tackle Jalen

440
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: Redmond was responsible for a lot of that.

441
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: I lost lost three defensive lineman, a linebacker, and a

442
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,959
Speaker 2: safety to the NFL. That defense I shared another safety

443
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 2: to the portal.

444
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you know they're they're gonna be able

445
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 1: to produce a little bit of pressure, but they lost

446
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: over half their pressures. They lost half of a lot

447
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 1: of stuff from stops in PBu perspective. And you know

448
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: there's only three games on the schedule that I project

449
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: the Sooners is two touchdown favorites. I mean generally we're

450
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: talking like Ohio State and Alabama type schedule where your

451
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: favorite is double digits in every game. But this year

452
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 1: I've only got three, and the Huskers is one of

453
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: those games where it's a pretty short spread. I could

454
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 1: easily see an upset there, you know, pending Casey Thompson

455
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 1: playing you know, at his peak. But you know, along

456
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: with Kansas State and Baylor, these are games where the

457
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: defensive trench has an advantage over Oklahoma's offensive line. So

458
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm sticking to my projection at nine point two. I

459
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: think under nine and a half is the play, but

460
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: I wouldn't exceed the juice of minus one twenty.

461
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can get under nine and a half,

462
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: I think that's where I go. But I make this

463
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 2: right right around I make the wintotal right around nine.

464
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: I don't see any guye in then the win to

465
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: Big twelve any value in them to win the College

466
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: World Club. I think the offense will be fine. Levy

467
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: and Gabriel already have continuity also, which I think helps

468
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 2: with the transition. The biggest question is what will Venables

469
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: and Roof, as I mentioned before, be able to do

470
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: with the defense in year one? How much is that worth? Right?

471
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: They did bring some talented transfers into and the secondary

472
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 2: has experience, you know, guys like Woody Washington, like, how

473
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 2: much better are they going to play being coached up

474
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: by this defensive staff and you know, with some scheme changes,

475
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: how much will that translate to a uptick and on

476
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 2: field efficiency on the defensive side the wall. I don't know.

477
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: That's the big unknown. So I think nine is a

478
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: good number. I have him a small underdog in Nebraska.

479
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: I And then basically you know at TCU, Texas and Dallas,

480
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: those are like coin basically coin flip games. Defense. If

481
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 2: you know, venables in the defense are a lot better

482
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 2: then I project, and they're probably going to go over

483
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: nine and win ten games. If they're not, they're probably

484
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: gonna win eight. So I think they're a wait and

485
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: see team and bet them on a game by game basis.

486
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: Start off with UTEP and Kent and Kent State. So

487
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how much we'll learn about them then,

488
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: but at Nebraska we certainly will.

489
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should expect an increase in tempo, right. I

490
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: think one of the things about me going to all

491
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: the media days was I was secretly asking what is

492
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: your tempo going to be on offense?

493
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: Right?

494
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: Because that relates to totals and Oklahoma is one of

495
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: those teams where there's going to be struggles on defense

496
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: and there's going to be a huge increase on tempo

497
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: on offense. So be looking for ou over a single

498
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: game overs when the season starts.

499
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Speaker 2: I'm moving on to the second favor in the Big

500
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 2: twelve with Texas plus two fIF I don't know if

501
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: you can still find three to one out there. Texas

502
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: coming off a very disappointing year. They finished five and seven.

503
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: The win totals a by over eight and a half

504
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: minus one fifteen. They did go two and five and

505
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: one possession games were a bit unlucky, he could say,

506
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: especially when in the turnover department. So there's some regression

507
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: signs on the positive side for Texas. Is Texas back yet?

508
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: Not sure. I think it's going to come down to

509
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: the to the defensive side of the ball. But some

510
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: of the positive signs for things you gotta like about Texas,

511
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: I mean it just to me, it's the most talented team.

512
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: They can continue to crush recruiting. I did think they

513
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: did a really good job in the transfer portal. I

514
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 2: like some of the assistant coaches that they brought on

515
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: as well. But it's year two of the staff. So

516
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: you can expect this Sark offense with all the receivers

517
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: they got, as long as spin yours pans out a

518
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 2: quarterback and I assume that he's going to get the

519
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: job or his technically quarterback battle I assume going on

520
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: with Hudson Carr. But if yours pans out, this offense

521
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: in year two of Sark should be exposed. The offensive

522
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: line was really good lat year. They bring back three starters,

523
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 2: and then you know led By Worthy of wide receiver,

524
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: and then Jon Robinson is already the best running back

525
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: in the country, just like Oklahoma. I don't have any

526
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: concerns about this Texas offense. Everything comes out of the defense.

527
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: Last year they were ninety nine and scoring on defense,

528
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteenth in rushing. They could not stop

529
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: the outside zone attacks that so many big twelve teams

530
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: utilize on the offensive end, So you know, what can

531
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 2: this defense do in year two? You have a lot

532
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: of talent, right but like I mean, only over shown

533
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: a linebacker was the only one who had any honorable

534
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: mention in anything preseason. But there's a lot of talent

535
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: that's just been unproven or very young. Now Ken you know,

536
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: in year two in Quitkowski's system, with Gary Patterson now

537
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: on as a consultant, what can they do on the

538
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. That is the big question

539
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 2: with Texas. So you know their win total of eight

540
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: and a half, that you have a manageable road schedule, right,

541
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: they only play four road games at Texas Tech, at

542
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: Ohoma State, at Kansas State, and at Kansas I have

543
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: a two fit you favored in two of those a

544
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: coin flip in one, actually have a favorite in three

545
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: and then one to coin flip. So you got to

546
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: love their road schedule. I have them favored by seven

547
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: or more and seven games with two coin flips you

548
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: know likely loss against Alabama and then two short favored.

549
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: So there's a path to getting to ten wins eleven

550
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: wins if the defense works out. And then you know,

551
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: obviously a young quarterback has to come in and step in,

552
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: but you have you know, kind of card as insurance

553
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 2: as well. So it just comes down to what you

554
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: think this defense is going to do. And to me,

555
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: with all the talent here, Sarkan Neer two, the defense

556
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: can only go one wave it up And I love

557
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: what the din the portal I mentioned, I love some

558
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: of the assistants they brought in. I don't want to

559
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: go Texas win total over, but I did play some

560
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: plus three twenty five to win the Big Twelve. I

561
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: don't think that they should be different than Oklahoma. For example,

562
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: that game in now I have that game is true

563
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: pick right, and you can assume that one of those

564
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: the teams you know wins that game most likely gonna

565
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: go to the Big Twelve championship game. So I played

566
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: some plus three twenty five. It's sounded two to fifty.

567
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: I don't really like it if you at two fifty,

568
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: but like three to one or higher. I think Oklahoma

569
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: and Texas should be kind of have the same questions,

570
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: but like with both teams, and I think that I

571
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: have them power rated basically equal. So I took a

572
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: shout plus three twenty five on the upside, like, I

573
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: don't want to go over eight and a half because

574
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out on the defensive side of

575
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: the ball, then they're gonna lose some games, and who knows,

576
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 2: maybe they'll lose to Kansas again. They go to Kansas

577
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: late in the year. So what are your thoughts on Texas?

578
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: Your boy Sark yep, get ready to right. What are

579
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the horns? So was Texas back.

580
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: It was great to catch up with coach Sarkisian at

581
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: the big twelve media days. He everybody was asking him

582
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: about his thoughts on Alabama and conference ree alignment, and

583
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: then I was asking him flat out about how much

584
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 1: twelve are you gonna run? What's your pace gonna be?

585
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: Tell me about your little billings coming through the portal,

586
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: because you loved him at tight end from Alabama. So

587
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: it was good to kind of chop it up with

588
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: coach sark in big tele media days. But I mean

589
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: there was I think the thing that you're not going

590
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: to get in the spreadsheet is that you're gonna have

591
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: to throw out last year's stats. This defense wasn't talking

592
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: to each other, they weren't communicating, they didn't accept Pete

593
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Kwadokowski's scheme. And then on the offensive side of the ball,

594
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: they were kind of limited in what Sark wanted to do. Yeah,

595
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: let's move the pocket out to the right and dump

596
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: it beyond Jean Robinson out to the left in the

597
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: flats and let him try to you know, mistach court,

598
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: create mistackles and bulldoze over everybody else. So I think

599
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: you wipe away all the stats from last year period.

600
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: You know, they gained seven players from the transfer portal,

601
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: so we got a new season and this is a

602
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: tough handicap because of Quinn. Youwers right, how many passes

603
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: have we seen this kid throw? I keep hearing it.

604
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: We have different arm angles and he can throw off

605
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: of one foot leaning the other way, very Patrick Mahomes

606
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: type things that we're hearing about what he can do

607
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: as far as spinning the ball, and then the other

608
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Is the defense, right, and the

609
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: players weren't bought into Pete Quittakowski's defensive scheme. Of course,

610
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: none of those players were his. And Gary Patterson joins

611
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: the staff. Now, I don't know how we say this.

612
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: My daughter calls it spilling the tea. She's a teenager.

613
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: She calls it spilling the tea. So if you want

614
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: to know what the tea is on Texas, Patterson was

615
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: not a coach that Sarkisian went out and got. There

616
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: is sort of a feeling out there that Patterson was

617
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: kind of forced in to help with this defense. To

618
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: see what you know in both him and Quitakowski run

619
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: the four two five, and now they're comparing notes and

620
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: they're kind of tag teaming it up, even though one's

621
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator and one's an analyst. Do you think

622
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: that Gary Patterson is more there to get boots on

623
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: the ground and get these kids communicating with each other.

624
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: And if something happens with Pete Kuittokowski in his job

625
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: and it's fired midseason, Patterson was brought in for that

626
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: role too, so that you know, it leaves me with

627
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: even more questions on the defense. But you know, last season,

628
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: the second half, I just I think that the whole

629
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: roster fell apart. Communication was such a big deal that

630
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: Sarkas said, we've been doing team building all summer or

631
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: the rest of the winter all summer long. Players weren't

632
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: talking to each other. And that really comes down to,

633
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, the Marian overshown who talked about how they're

634
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, spending so much time together and they really

635
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: need to be better at calling out coverages, adjusting to audibles.

636
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: So we'll see if that defense is a is a

637
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: more polished product, and you know, if the message that

638
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: the coaches are giving have been received. Something we can't

639
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: handicap until we see them on the field. They're a

640
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: mount of sixty five percent on both sides of the

641
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: ball according to Tarp. Of course, you know Xavier Worthy

642
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: is there. He's the leading you know target here for

643
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 1: whoever's gonna be the quarterback between Hudson Card and Quinn Yours.

644
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: And then when I get back to you know, Card

645
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: and Yours, my whole question is is are we going

646
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: to see Hudson Card play in the first two games

647
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: the season against ULM and Alabama and we save Quinn

648
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: Ewers until after you know, the Tide come to town.

649
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Or are we just going to throw him in there

650
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: and say, you know, let's see what you could do.

651
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: So that's going to be the big questions we as

652
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: we get up there and you.

653
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: Think they're just Hudson Card, just get just let Will

654
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Anderson t off on Hudson Guard for an entire game

655
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: and then bringing yours the next week.

656
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, right because the conference schedule is

657
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: right in front of you, and why not start them

658
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: off against a utsa defense that lost just about everybody too.

659
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I agree with you over eight is

660
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: the play, But it's so small. I project eight point three.

661
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: There's juice built into that over eight and I think,

662
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: if you know, we've gone through Oklahoma and Texas now

663
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: and there's not a real huge betting deliverable. So let

664
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: me give everybody a betting deliverable. And that is the

665
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: fact that I went to Big twelve media days and

666
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: all Start could talk about is how much he loves

667
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: coach Saban, how much he loves Miss Terry. They treated

668
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: him like family, they boosted his career. The respect level

669
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: is out the door. Well, you expect that out of

670
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: a former pro, you know, someone that coached under Saban.

671
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: But then I went to SEC media days and Saban

672
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: was literally gushing like it was one of his own children,

673
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: talking about how Sark is very special, He's one of

674
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: the best coordinators we've ever had on staff. The level

675
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: of respect that Saban was giving to Sark, I didn't

676
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: hear that. I don't hear him talk that way about

677
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Lane out here, him talking that way about Kirby, any

678
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: of his former assistants. Sark has a real special place

679
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: with Saban. And so that spread that opened up at fourteen,

680
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna start climbing, It's gonna steam and for me,

681
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I think Alabama goes in there and of course they

682
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: could beat him by fifty if they wanted it. This

683
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: defense is not communicating and all these problems that I

684
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: talked about exist before, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

685
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: I think Saban is dead set on going in there

686
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: and giving them the Notre Dame playoff treatment, which was

687
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: give me three scores and sit on the ball. They

688
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: get to fourteen, we'll go score a touchdown. But you

689
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: know we're gonna run, We're gonna milk clock, We're gonna

690
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: keep this.

691
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: The problem. The problem is, though, is if Texas Run

692
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: Day is not improved at all, is that like, does

693
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: that mean that album is still just going right down

694
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: the field and scoring touchdowns? Are well running the ball?

695
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: That's the only feel I think.

696
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: This number stems the twenty and a half though. I

697
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: think you and I Saturday more. I'm doing the show

698
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: with Brett and we are watching a screen that just

699
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: flies this thing up tonight, team that have twenty and

700
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: so you can and I'm not saying take that number now,

701
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying you can guarantee week two and when you

702
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: and I are doing that live show, an hour before kick,

703
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at that Texas number and if it's a twenty,

704
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to be hitting it because they're not going

705
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: to quit the entire game. Alabama is not going to

706
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: be trying to rub it in on Sark whatsoever. H

707
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: And you, I don't expect to see Bryce Younger. I mean,

708
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: Alabama has injury concerns all the time. Cameron littwo we'll

709
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: get to SEC, but Cameron LA two's already banged up.

710
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: Every year, there's there's a wattle, there's a you know,

711
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: there's always somebody that's hurt. So I don't expect to

712
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: see Bryce on playing in the second half. I don't

713
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: expect to see a lot of the starters in the

714
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: second half. So back, there.

715
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: Could be some Alabama's offense could have a little growing

716
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: pains early in the air, so you could see something,

717
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: you know, with their offensive line and receivers, like there's

718
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 2: the best team in the country. But yeah, I think

719
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: a lot of it depends on the Texas quarterback situation.

720
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: So like, what's like you said, is it going to

721
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: be I wouldn't really trust card from what I've seen.

722
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 2: Oh see yours early do we also like anticipate as

723
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: it if it's a blowout because viewers get run like

724
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: that could then are you been looking at Texas live? Honest?

725
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to get to before we get

726
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: to that. But I like Texas as a shot to

727
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: win Thy twelve if you can get three to one,

728
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: that were better I have. I actually have them slightly

729
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: out of Oklahoma. I know all my friends in Norman,

730
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: who I love and Boomer summer fans are not going

731
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: to like to hear that. But I do love the

732
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: hire of Venables long term, and I think it raises

733
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: their ceiling because in order to get to a national title,

734
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: a real national title contender, their defense needed to be fixed,

735
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: and you would assume that Venables will get that done

736
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: over time. All right, let's move on to the third

737
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: and fourth. The teams are the third and fourth best

738
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: odds to win the Big Twelve, and that's Baylor in

739
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, both sitting at around six to one. I'll

740
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: tell you Brett gave his opinion on the win total

741
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma State. I'll I'm curious to get your thoughts.

742
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: My favorite win total in the Big twelve is Oklahoma

743
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: State under eight and a half negative aggression candidate. Right

744
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 2: off the top. They were plus eleven in turnovers last year,

745
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: which is I don't think they could duplicate that with

746
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: all they lost on the defensive side of the ball.

747
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: And they still have Spencer Sanders, who the guy still

748
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: has what forty turnovers and thirty two starts he's and

749
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: you never know what he's gonna have a clunker of

750
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: a game and he just gets charitable and gives the

751
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: ball away for an entire game to the other team.

752
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: There were six and two and one possession games last year.

753
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: They had lucky wins versus what good argon, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Boise,

754
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: an inverted whistle in Texas. You know they got that

755
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: pick six that's changed the game, unlucky versus Baylor and

756
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: Iowa State, but certainly very unfortunate overall. And a big

757
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: theme that you'll see with a lot of the win

758
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: totals that I like are coordinator changes that I think

759
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 2: are either not valued enough or overvalued in the market.

760
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: And law I just think that the loss of Jim

761
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: Knowles is massive, and the second, I mean, they lost

762
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: so much on that defense. To the portal and to graduation.

763
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: You lose four of you four or five extremely productive

764
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: defensive backs. You lose Malcolm Rodriguez at linebacker. You also

765
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: lose your top receiver and running back. The offensive line

766
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 2: dealt with a lot of you know, kind of shuffling

767
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: around last year. So maybe they're better with more continuity,

768
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: but there's still depth questions there and they're still figuring

769
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: out something. So yeah, young secondary linebacker, major question. This

770
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: defense argument was just second third best behind Georgia in

771
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: the country last year. I think you see a massive

772
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: drop of those six of their eight top tacklers last year,

773
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: and I think the loss of Knowles is big. They

774
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: also have to play five Big twelve road games, including

775
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and Baylor. So when I look at the schedule,

776
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: I assume they start three. Now, I assume they beat

777
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 2: Central Michigan, Arizona State, and Pine Bluff and you're Pine

778
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: Bluff Boys. Then they get a buye before they go

779
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: to before they go to Baylors. So they have five

780
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: Big twelve road games at Baylor, at Oklahoma, at Kansas

781
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: Kansas does come off of a bye, at Kansas State,

782
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: and at TCU. Let's let's call to me, that looks

783
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: like two and three. You know, TCU Baylor say you know,

784
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Kansas State, and we'll give them a winner. Kansas

785
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: been Maybe that's trickier later in the year. If Kansas

786
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: has improved, Candas is coming off of buy let's call

787
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: that two and three, which I think is realistic. Then

788
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: they got to sweep their home games to get to

789
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: nine wins, and you know they play Texas to in

790
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: conference Texas Tech, Iowa State, West Virginia should be wins,

791
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: but I could see them dropping one of those games,

792
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: and then they also have Texas at home, so I

793
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: make this a little under eight. I think there's a

794
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: lot of regression coming from Oklahoma State. Another thing to

795
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 2: keep in mind with these offensive line questions there their

796
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: backup quarterback is now the quarterback in Nevada. Something happens

797
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: to Sanders, there is no experience behind him, and then

798
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: it could get really ugly. So I think there's more

799
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: questions and answers with this Oklahoma State team. Lawston Knowles

800
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: is big, give me under eight and a half wins.

801
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on the pokes.

802
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean I projected at eight,

803
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: so under eight and a half I think is the

804
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: way you got to go is you got to take

805
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: the under on this, and you know, I think defense

806
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: is where most of the focus has been considering. You know,

807
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Colling Olivery is still the edge there. Tyler Lacy is

808
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: going to be an edge there. But they lost a

809
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: lot from the Knowles defense, So you switch over to

810
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: Derek Mason, who was running out of Auburn to take

811
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: this job. They both both Knowles and Mason run a

812
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: four to five defense. They like their nickel defenses. And

813
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: if you look at what Auburn posted last year under

814
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: Derek Mason, top fifty and success rate thirty ninth and

815
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: finished defensive finishing drives and thirty first in HAVOC, So

816
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, he kept Auburn a little bit outside of

817
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: what average defenses do in the s SEC play. And

818
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: then when you get into this season, he's got to

819
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: come in and take over after Jim Knowles, who is

820
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: off to greener pastors at Ohio State. So you know,

821
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: the defense returns just nineteen percent per Tarrup, and Colin

822
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: Oliver was a big part of that havoc, A part

823
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: of that stops and a part of the pressures. And

824
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you know Brett mentioned it. There's a

825
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: lot of there's no scheme change here. There's no verbiage

826
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: being changed. Is what the players are using. And their

827
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's only really proven solid at the edge positions,

828
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: and then they have a safety Jason Taylor the second

829
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: so that's it. Besides that, there's going to be a

830
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: lot of crossing routes that these offenses are going to

831
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: attack them as, specially around the linebackers. Corners are going

832
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a problem here. So

833
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, we could be back to some real high

834
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: scoring games. That is, if the offense can keep up.

835
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: Because you're right, if Spencer Sanders gets hurt, we don't

836
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: know what Oklahoma State's going to do on offense. Which

837
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: I was shocked when I got the Big Twelve media days.

838
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: I heard Spencer Sanders preseason Big twelve quarterback. I said,

839
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks are there in this league? Where's everybody gone?

840
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: That Spencer Sanders is the number one quarterback in the

841
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: preseason Big Twelve voting. You know, the Polks didn't hit

842
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: the portal hard. They acquired just five players. One of

843
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: those offensive tackle from usced kind of bolster the trench.

844
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: Sanders does get all of his wide receivers back. With

845
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: the exception of Tay Martin, he was the leader. Brandon

846
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: Presley kind of leads that group, and you know, there's

847
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of questions about who's going to

848
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: handle the rock behind the line of scrimmage. We don't

849
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: really know what their rushing attack is going to be.

850
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: On the schedule, I agree with you. I mean, and

851
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: you're in the Big twelve, you're always going to get

852
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: either four home games and five roadies or it's going

853
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: to be vice versa. And this is the season that

854
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's got to have five roadies. The Polks have

855
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: three games that they should win in non conference I

856
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: say should because Central Michigan is there. You can look

857
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: up the history Oklahoma State double digit favorites, and two

858
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: conference games against Kansas and West Virginia after that, I'm

859
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: not sure coin flips against Baylor, TCU in Kansas State

860
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: or you know, you can't write them in as victories.

861
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to those teams. But the projection of

862
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State is eight. I think under eight and a

863
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: half is the play. I can't see how they get

864
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: nine on this schedule whatsoever. You know, it's not something

865
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: where I think they completely fall apart. Because I believe Gundhi.

866
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't have this INFIRMI, but I think he's won

867
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: at least six games every single year he's been in slowwater.

868
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: So I don't think they're gonna just fall off the

869
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: face of the earth.

870
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, floor is high here. You know they're gonna

871
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: win six floors games at the minimum.

872
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: But no one, there's not gonna be nine wins.

873
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you here. And the other team

874
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: that I mentioned was Baylor, the defending Big twelve champs. Here,

875
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: they were pretty They went twelve and two last year.

876
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 2: David r and is do with a tremendous job. Jeff

877
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: Grums back for year two of offensive coordinator, looks like Blake shape.

878
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the quarterback he closed the year out.

879
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: I'm not as sold on him. O'hannan Leaves. I wasn't

880
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: sold on mohannan either. And they have to replace a lot,

881
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: like of all their skill position players. That's the main

882
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: question at Baylor. And then you know they also lost

883
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: I mean also their top two running backs, their top

884
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: seven receivers, and then on the defensive end, defense side

885
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: of the ball, they lost four of their top five tacklers.

886
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: Their win total is AB sitting at around eight. If

887
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: I had to bet this, I would go under, mainly

888
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: because I'm not sold on the quarterback situation. We do

889
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: have questions about the skill positions. Five Big twelve road

890
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: games that go to ou Texas and Iowa State, they

891
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: also go to BYU and they get They go to

892
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 2: West Virginia and West Virginia is off of a bye.

893
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: They get Oklahoma State off of a bye.

894
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 5: Gout.

895
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: In my head, I go under, but I think it's

896
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: priced about right. But I'm just not a fan of

897
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation, and if that ends up working out,

898
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: then they could certainly read people. What are your thoughts

899
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 2: on the Bears.

900
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Under by far This is one of the first totals

901
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: that I hit. I project this at six SP plus

902
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: has this I think at seven point two seven point four,

903
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: So under eight under seven and a half is the

904
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: way that I would want to go. And if you

905
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: look at it just based upon tarp passing, receiving, rushing yards,

906
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: Taylor lost a lot of skill positions. They lost absolutely everybody.

907
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: You go on to the other side of the ball,

908
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: defensive pressure stops PBUs that took a major hit too,

909
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: so irand has got to rebuild here. And you know,

910
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 1: like I said, although the running backs and the wide

911
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: receivers are gone, the offensive the offensive line probably the

912
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: best in the Big twelve among those as Connor Galvin

913
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: should be an All American. And you know, Shape and

914
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a Shaping fan. Eighteen dropbacks with pressure last

915
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: year just fifty four percent of just a completion percentage.

916
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: So you know, if the offensive line is better, that's

917
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: going to keep him out of trouble. But we saw

918
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: Shape and take off out of the pocket and take

919
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: some licks last year, and he's he's got to learn

920
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: to to not do that, either get out of bounds,

921
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: get down, or not take off at all. The good

922
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: news for Baylor is you have the easiest rank of

923
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: sp plus defenses of any other Big twelve team, so

924
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: that is in the good news for them. But this

925
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: projection is just way too high, and it's based upon

926
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: the fact of what they did last year. The defense

927
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: has a lot of holes to plug. It's a Randoms defense,

928
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: so it's multiple. I mean, there's like five to six

929
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: different personnels that you're going to be running. So you

930
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: have to learn that. Among the transfers or Jackson player

931
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: on the interior line. Yeah, I mean he's going to

932
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: be great, and of course siaka Ika is going to

933
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: return the defensive line. He's top twenty in the nation

934
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher as a rush stopper individually in FBS.

935
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: So I like what Baylor does in the trench. They're

936
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: going to be able to punch people in the mouths

937
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. But this projection is

938
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: way too high and depth quarterback and no skill positions.

939
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm out on and over here. I don't think they

940
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: can win the conference and I'll take an under.

941
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would tend to agree with you. By the way,

942
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 2: is RJ Steed did it? Is he from Colorado? Why

943
00:42:53,360 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: did he transfer to Colorado? And that horrendous Offensel. Speaking

944
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: of transfer receivers, I have to mention with Texas ISA

945
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: and a or from Wyoming who I love, who can fly.

946
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: He transfers to bolst of their receiving room. And I

947
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: love him because he had that catch at the end

948
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: of the Boise State game to go seventy yards to

949
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: cover h So shout out to him. All right, let's see,

950
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 2: I agree with you on the under. There with Baylor.

951
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: It was under nothing for me and you confirmed it.

952
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Let's move on to kind of the next tier teams

953
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: that are sitting around fourteen to one to win the conference,

954
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: Kansas State and TCU. I think you made a bet

955
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: on TCU to win the conference. Kansas State, the question

956
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: with them is, Okay, you have Adrian Martinez coming in

957
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: for Skyler Thompson, you have du Spawn in the backfield,

958
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 2: and now Klin can kline and do new offensive coordinator.

959
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see a more up tempo offense

960
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: at Kansas State than we're used to seeing. Do you

961
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: have some questions the back back end of their defense.

962
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: Climb is impressive in the bowl game pump Place, but

963
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: again he was playing an Alice U team was like,

964
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: have like ten guys available. Kansas State does have five

965
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: big twelve road games Iowa State, West Virginia, Oklahoma, TCU,

966
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: and Baylor. They also get texts at home, but texts

967
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: is coming off of a bye. I mean I only

968
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: have them with like two really likely wins South Dakota

969
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: and Kansas at home. You know they have three true

970
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: coin flips and then you know five semi coin flips.

971
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: So Kansastate tough team to project. I think the win

972
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: total is about right. And I know you love TCU.

973
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: They have a quarterback battle of their own. But I

974
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: love the all they're hiring, So I think you're probably

975
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: gonna touch on that. But Sunny Dyke's Garrett Riley, Joe Gillespie,

976
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: who I love the Tulsa What are your thoughts on

977
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: either one of these teams? I'll like you to start

978
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: with TCU and why you bet them to win the conference?

979
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean from a TCU perspective, I think this

980
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: is the most underrated team maybe in Power five right now.

981
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: That starts that you've already mentioned, and that starts with

982
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: the hire of Joseph Gillespie defensive coordinator. If you're not

983
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 1: familiar with what Tulsa during the pandemic season of twenty

984
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: twenty was Zaven Collins, that was all Joseph Gillespie. And

985
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: when I went and talked you know, Sonny Dice gets

986
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: up on stage of Big twelve media days and he says,

987
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: I have the best defensive coordinator in the nation, and

988
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: I think some people kind of sat back. I didn't

989
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: sit back. I said that's true. I think he does

990
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: have the best defensive coordinator in the nation, biggest winners

991
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: in tart by far. Ninety percent on both sides of

992
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: the ball are coming back. Fifteen players gained in eleven

993
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: thousand snaps via the transfer portal, So all those numbers

994
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: you saw last year on defense, which were god awful

995
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: and almost worse than FBS, forget that. For TCU, they

996
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: are the fourth highest team in players gained from the

997
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: transfer portal. And with Gary Patterson gone, maybe a new

998
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: voice in Gillespie is going to get through to the kids.

999
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: And we could just throw all that away because TCU

1000
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: was one hundred and twenty seventh and tackling and that

1001
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: is all based on coaching. There is plenty of.

1002
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: Ten d You can argue a bottom ten defense last

1003
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: year nationally based only a lot of the underlying staffs.

1004
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, lawn chairs statues out there, so it was pretty bad.

1005
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: But defense is going to be fine. We throw away

1006
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: last year out the door because Sunny Dyke's is going

1007
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: to get this team going now. Tempo is a really

1008
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: big deal. Brett's right, they were eighty third, TCU was

1009
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: eighty third and Tempo and SMU last year I believe

1010
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: it was thirteenth. So TCU is going to have some

1011
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: high scoring games and that goes into the offense with

1012
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Chandler Morris and Max Duggan. Now we don't know who

1013
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: the starter is going to be, but I use doesn't matter.

1014
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't think it matters. They're both

1015
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: going to be able to score a ton of points.

1016
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: Quinton Johnson fifth in the nation an average depth of target.

1017
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: They have so many weapons for this air raid.

1018
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: For Yeah, their wide receiver, their wide receiver room is great.

1019
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: And finally, the offensive line returns eighty percent of snaps

1020
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: from last season. I could go on and on and on.

1021
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: Let's just say this morning, shoving money across the counter,

1022
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: TCU minus ten. That took some steam from up from

1023
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: eight and a half against Colorado in Week one. I

1024
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: love this team to be in the Big twelve Championship game,

1025
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: which means buying fourteen to one, sixteen to one, eighteen

1026
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: to one. You got a chance to hedge there. I'm

1027
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: completely sold on the Frogs.

1028
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and thirteen career starts the offensive line,

1029
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: and they dealt with a ton of injuries. They had

1030
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 2: five different starting right guards, so get a little better

1031
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: luck in that aspect that you could see, you know,

1032
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: on the defense obviously has to improve. That's the assumption here.

1033
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: The defense has but one hundred and twenty second rush

1034
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: D one hundred and eighteenth scoring D one hundred and

1035
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: nineteenth overall just from a statistical sandpoint on non schedule adjusted.

1036
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, if the defense with Glesbie, who we both love,

1037
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: improves and you know, the talent is there, especially in

1038
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: the back end, I have to replace some important pieces

1039
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: up front. But you could see a big jump from

1040
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 2: TCU and their five and seven record last year. Kansas

1041
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: State also around fourteen to one. It's just just come

1042
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: down to like Martinez, like Martinez given, and Martinez taketh

1043
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Kansas State and the Deuce spawn show.

1044
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: Well, First off, coach k is twenty two and thirteen

1045
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: and one against the spread since he took over Manhattan,

1046
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: So don't try to fade Kansas State game to game.

1047
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: It's just it hasn't worked out, and I don't think

1048
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: this team is one of the best strangers. I mentioned

1049
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: Baylor was best offensive line. Kansas State's right up there

1050
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. But this does this

1051
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: comes down to Adrian Martinez. Now they were trying to

1052
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: dress it up in big twelve media days, right. I

1053
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: got to talk to Adrian Martinez and du Swaan. Deuce

1054
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: has fumbled once and over three hundred carries in his life,

1055
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: and I said, well, what's the key to that, because

1056
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: now you guys got Adrian Martinez, and Adrian Martinez knows

1057
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: that that's a point of emphasis. But he also said, listen,

1058
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: we're going to be running off you know, we're running

1059
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: the ball a lot between the full back, between Deuce,

1060
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: We're running a lot of twenty one sets. So they're

1061
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: going to try to take some pressure off of them.

1062
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Adrian Martinez thirty interceptions and

1063
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: forty two fumbles recorded at Nebraska during his career. I'm

1064
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: a little nervous about an offensive line that returns just

1065
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: forty percent of snaps. Ducewan, in my opinion, is the

1066
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: best all purpose back probably in the nation. And I think,

1067
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, Colin Client taking over at offensive coordinator is great.

1068
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: Optimist Client is back, you know, in our in our vernacular,

1069
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: we can talk about him, but you know, the offensive line.

1070
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: I got some worries about some of the experience that

1071
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: we have there. The defensive line, though, Felix and anadaik

1072
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: Uzoma and Eli Huggins are animals, They're bigger than houses.

1073
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna be great, But the problem is the back

1074
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: seven cannot defend passes. They cannot tackle. And as much

1075
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: as I love Kansas State and I'm going to back

1076
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: them week to week, I couldn't take them to win

1077
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: the conference, mostly because the defense just has way too

1078
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: much to prove from a tackling perspective.

1079
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: Moving on to the next tier, with two teams that

1080
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: around twenty to one, West Virginia and Iowa State, and

1081
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: these two teams I've grouped together for another reason that

1082
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: out of all the Power five teams, they might have

1083
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: been hurt the most via the transfer portal. Iowa State,

1084
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: in addition, lost all of those seniors, including October rock

1085
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: Party at quarterback. You know you lose a stud running back.

1086
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: So much on the defense, I have two returning starters

1087
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: in the defense. We'll have new quarterbacks on both teams.

1088
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: West Virginia, we'll have JT. Daniels with play calling now

1089
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: going to offensive Cordato Graham Harrow. I think that'll be

1090
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: good for the offense. But you're a boy Neil Brown

1091
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: under five hundred total in three seasons, tough non conference

1092
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: road trips to pit in Vo Tech, but they do

1093
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: only have four road Big Twelve games. And then with

1094
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: Iowa State, you know, one of the most disappointing seasons

1095
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: last year. They finished seven and six, their win totals

1096
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: at six and a half. By the way, Iowa State

1097
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: win total six and a half, West Virginia sitting in

1098
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: around five and a half. West Virginia does have tough

1099
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: non conference road trips to pit in Va Tech, but

1100
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: they do only have four road Big Twelve games, as

1101
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: does Iowa State. Iowa State obviously has to go to

1102
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: Iowa too, but these two teams were just crushed. Iowa

1103
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: State just a bizarre year last year. They went one

1104
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: in six and one possession games and also a sixty

1105
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: two yard field goal. They didn't convert a two point

1106
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: conversion against Baylor. Now, there's no expectations here under the radar.

1107
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: Is that a good thing? It's a really young secondary

1108
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: of just a gutted roster. Deckers will take over at quarterback.

1109
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: Hard team to figure out. But is this like the

1110
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: spot where you do buy Iowa State when there's no

1111
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: expectations on them, and similarly, West Virginia with a new

1112
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: quarterback guided by the transfer portal, a lot of questions

1113
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: on that roster. Trenches are a lot more set than

1114
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: the other positions at West Virginia, But there's certainly questions

1115
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 2: with both of these teams. Any thoughts on either or both?

1116
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, both I have as unders. I'll start with Iowa State.

1117
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: I project him at six point two, and you know,

1118
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: I talked him. The big takeaway I had for Matt

1119
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: Campbell when I talked to him in bigtal media days

1120
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: is that your tight end group is flushed, like they're gone.

1121
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: You have some red shirt freshmen in there that you

1122
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: had a pretty good recruiting class a couple of years ago,

1123
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: but they just don't have any experience whatsoever. Are you

1124
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: going to veer off of the thirteen and the twelve sets?

1125
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: And he said, We're definitely going to run offense that

1126
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: fits the personnel and the experience that we have right now.

1127
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: So what Matt Campbell is used to doing is setting

1128
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: up a bunch of tight ends out there and running

1129
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: motion more than anybody that's it's going to be a

1130
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: complete offensive reset here. And that makes me extremely uncomfortable,

1131
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: especially when you have a win total of six and

1132
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: a half when all you need is six to make

1133
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: this the longest streak of Iowa State going to a

1134
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: bowl and program history and over one hundred and twenty years.

1135
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: If they make a bowl this year, that's got to

1136
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: be the goal. So I'm not really sure what the

1137
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: goal is to win seven games, but I mean there's

1138
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: a complete rebuilt here on offense. And speaking of you know,

1139
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: I said that coach k at Kansas State was highly profitable.

1140
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell was the toast of the head coaching circles.

1141
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: But since twenty eighteen he's under the five hundred mark

1142
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: against the spread. So going against you know, Iowa State

1143
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: has been actually pretty profitable over the years.

1144
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: And now he doesn't have Rock Party in October.

1145
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: No and nordon nohere does he have Breesse Hall. That's

1146
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: like a player that comes through Iowa State like what

1147
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: once every twenty or thirty years. So West Virginia, I mean,

1148
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: I project this really low, way under the five and

1149
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: a half. I got it at three point seven. This

1150
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: is somebody I did take an under on. It's good

1151
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: the JT. Daniels and Graham Harrow back together again after

1152
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: working in the twenty nineteen season, and they have a

1153
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: lot of portal movement here. They have ten players gained

1154
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: top fifteen rank and number of snaps acquired at seventy

1155
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: three hundred.

1156
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 2: The whole secondary might be transfers, entire staff starting secondary.

1157
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: There's a ton of change here, and that's what the

1158
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: Neil Brown era has been has been all defense. He

1159
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to generate any kind of offense whatsoever.

1160
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: And now you know, you're asking JT. Daniels to go

1161
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: back to do Graham Harrell. You would think that, you know,

1162
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: they would adopt a lot of the air raid schemes

1163
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: that you sought out of USC. There's, you know, gonna

1164
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: be some real issues here with this offensive line. They

1165
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: do get seventy three percent of their snaps back, but

1166
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: still this is one of the worst teams in the

1167
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: nation last year when it comes to explosive plays. So

1168
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: is JT. Daniels doing dink and dunk Slovas style or

1169
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: is he going deep with the four verts. We're gonna

1170
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: have to find out. The defense has been the bread

1171
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: and butter of that West Virginia team, but now it's

1172
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: just Dante Stills and we do trust in DC. You know,

1173
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Leslie is one of the best defensive coordinators of

1174
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 1: the nation. They were sixteenth in finishing drives. But they've

1175
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: lost so much and filled so much with transfers. It's

1176
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: just too much of a question mark for me. So

1177
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: I'll take it under here.

1178
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, lots of questions at linebacker, and then you know,

1179
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: a brand new secondary full of transfers. Hard to project.

1180
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: I saw that, you bet West Virginia pitt under Yeah,

1181
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: total has come down a little bit. I was struggled

1182
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: that the pitt is one of my favorite under teams

1183
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: this year. So I just think that in Nardoozi's back

1184
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: to his roots with just running the ball with his

1185
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: new offensive cordator. Whipple's gone, So I think the pit

1186
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: and the defensive line, for they have two pros on

1187
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: their defensive line. Defense still should still be good, but

1188
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be a lot slower. They're gonna

1189
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: run the ball even more. And you know, obviously they

1190
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: lose Addison and Kenny Pickett, right, they're tremendous duo. But

1191
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 2: then in West Virginia, the one thing I'm worried about

1192
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: and curious to you have any thoughts in this, like

1193
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: I've questioned about their secondary and at linebacker maybe Pitchers

1194
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: runs it, and the strength of the defensive team for

1195
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: the defensive the defensive West Virginia is their defensive line.

1196
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: But I'm also kind of where does West Virginia Do

1197
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: you expect them to go a lot more up tempo

1198
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: and go way more pass heavy or what are you

1199
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on the offense and just that

1200
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: if you have any thoughts on that total.

1201
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna go pass heavy, but it's going to be

1202
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: more of a Mike Leach pass heavy right. Mike Leach

1203
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: in Mississippi State not one of the fastest teams in

1204
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: the nation, So I don't expect to see a lot

1205
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: of tempo here. I don't expect to see them within

1206
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: the top forty of seconds per Playally about that under

1207
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: in the backyard brawl it's going to kick off the season.

1208
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: Not to mention that it could be like ninety to

1209
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: one hundred degrees, because that's about what it is everywhere

1210
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: in the nation right now. That bet was pushed across

1211
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: the counter by a runner. For me, the second I

1212
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: got done talking to patn Ardoozy in the lobby of

1213
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: the Weston. So let's just say patn Ardoozi is extremely

1214
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: happy with Frank Signetti coming in as offensive coordinator. They

1215
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: are going to probably be the slowest offense in the nation.

1216
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: He wants to run the ball on every single down

1217
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: and I just don't expect to see any kind of

1218
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: pace whatsoever. And I have enough trust in the pit

1219
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: defense that could shut down any kind of high tempo

1220
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: or any dump off the Graham Harrold wants to do

1221
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: with J. C.

1222
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: Daniels.

1223
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a real tough opening game considering what

1224
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: Pitt's defense is. The number was when I made the

1225
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: bet was fifty four and a half. It's down to

1226
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: fifty two. Key number of forty You're gonna want to

1227
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: get this bet in before. Key numbers of fifty one

1228
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: to forty nine, because I think the under is just

1229
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: going to keep going.

1230
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: All right. Moving on to the final two teams, the

1231
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: Coups or Texas Tech, they're about fifty to one to

1232
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: win the conference win total five and a half. Thing

1233
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 2: the note here a lot of changes, right. You're gonna

1234
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: have a new head coach, Joey Maguire, new offensive coordinator,

1235
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 2: exacurately from Western Kentucky, Zappi Nation, new defensive coordinator, Tim Deruder,

1236
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: new special teams coach. You have a quarterback battle in camp.

1237
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: I think it's either gonna be Donovan Smith or Tyler Shuck.

1238
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: I think Set's gonna end up winning the job based

1239
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 2: on what they want to do, but that is yet

1240
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: to be determined. They have some questions at receiver and

1241
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: along the offensive line, and of course the defense, it's

1242
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. How much better is the defense going to be?

1243
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: Interesting schedule, They have tough non conference games versus Houston

1244
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: and NC State. They do only have four road Big

1245
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: Twelve games, but they host Oklahoma, Texas and Baylor. Right,

1246
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: so like three of the top teams in the Big Twelve.

1247
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: I generally don't like that for a win total over

1248
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: when you get a lot of the tougher opponents at home.

1249
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: So like the seal, the floor isn't that high here,

1250
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: especially the only given win is you know, you assume

1251
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: Kansas at mary State at home, and that's it. I

1252
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: mean a lot of you're kind of the middling teams

1253
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve. You're going on the road to play,

1254
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: and then, as I mentioned, you're playing Houston and NC

1255
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: State in an oncon thoughts on Texas Tech.

1256
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, to me, this is another under there's

1257
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: too many moving pieces here. Nine two hundred career snaps

1258
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: gain through the transfer portal at is top ten. So

1259
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: not only do we have a new head coach, new coordinators,

1260
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of new players there. And yes,

1261
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: there is a quarterback battle between Tyler Shuk and Donovan Smith,

1262
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: but I would say that that's not really a quarterback battle.

1263
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: It's going to be Tyler Shug. He's going to be

1264
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: what runs it up until the twenty yard line. Why

1265
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: do you say that, because Joey Maguire told us I

1266
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: would be crazy not to have a six foot five,

1267
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty pound quarterback running power at the

1268
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: goal line. Donovan Smith is going to be the red

1269
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: zone option Tyler Sugar, They're gonna you know, Zach Kidley's job.

1270
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: You know he got the best out of Bailey Zappy

1271
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: at Western Kentucky and at Houston Baptist. His job is

1272
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: to unlock what Tyler Shuk was able to do in

1273
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: his time in Oregon, making him just a dual threat.

1274
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: We'll see if he can pull that off. But you know,

1275
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: Tim de Ruder comes in as the DC. Anybody who's

1276
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: been listening to our podcast for years knows I am

1277
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: not a fan of him as a defensive coordinator. When

1278
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: he was at Oregon, when he was at Cal there

1279
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: were drops and finishing drives, there was drops and havoc

1280
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: and success rate defenses generally got worse the years that

1281
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: he was there. And he plays a very bend, don't

1282
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: break like you can have the entire field and then

1283
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: we'll firm up once we get to the twenty. So

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00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: that's just the way Texas texts. So we're gonna bet

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00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 1: a lot of and bet a lot of overs during

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: the Texas Tech season. But this is a defense that

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00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: finished one hundred and twenty second allowing opponents to score

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00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: pass the forty yard line last year, and now you're

1289
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: bringing in Tim de Ruterer that's going to allow everybody

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: to cross the forty yard line. So this is an

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00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: under for me. I projected at four point seven, But

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to watch. I think end game

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00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: over is weekly over is going to be the call here,

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Speaker 1: and I would love to see Donovan Smith and more

1295
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: of his magic. He's a great guy to watch weekly.

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00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: So but still team under don't expect them to compete

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Speaker 1: for the Big Twelve whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they lose two key linebackers and you know, their

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00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: top three tacklers overall on that now four to five defense.

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00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: And I'm concerned about the offense that their offensive line

1301
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: had was basically healthy all year Latyar great injury. They

1302
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: lose three key pieces on the offensive line. They're gonna

1303
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: be relying on transfers at a lot of places, but

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: they also lose their leading receiver and as you comment

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00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: to the NFL, so there's some questions here. Transfer reliant.

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: They get to host the best teams in the conference,

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Speaker 2: but I actually think that works against them with OU,

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00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: Texas and Baylor. Yeah, I agree with you. It's under

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00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: nothing here, all right. Our final teams Kansas two hundred

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: and fifty to one to win the Big Twelve. It's

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Speaker 2: Leopold's second year as the head coach as coordinators as well.

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Speaker 2: They're much more experienced now, returning seventeen starters. Win total

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Speaker 2: over two and a half minus one forty five. They

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Speaker 2: had three close games to close the year last year

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Speaker 2: they wanted Texas. Sorry Texas, fense. They lost that TCU

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Speaker 2: in a close one, and also against West Virginia they

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Speaker 2: improved a lot and guess what that coincided with Daniels

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Speaker 2: starting at quarterback. He's expected to win that job and

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Speaker 2: be the day one starter over Justin Bean, who think

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Speaker 2: he is out of camp for illness now, but he's

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Speaker 2: expected to be the backup. They were also the fourth

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Speaker 2: youngest team in the country last year, so they're much

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Speaker 2: more experienced. There's some transfer movement here. Can the defense

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Speaker 2: improve it all? It is one of the worst pass

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Speaker 2: defenses in the country. They only had fourteen sacks all year,

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Speaker 2: but there's a lot of experience here. Nine offensive starters,

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Speaker 2: eight defensive starters. In year two of a head coach

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: and schemes, they have five road Big twelve games. The

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Speaker 2: last time they won multiple Big twelve games was in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. They are twenty eight and one

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01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: thirty five since their last Bowl appearance in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and eight, and they ended an eighteen game Pack twelve.

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Speaker 2: They ended up eighteen game Big twelve losing streak and

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01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: a fifty six game road losing streak in Big Twie

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Speaker 2: with a win at Texas last year, but I think

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Speaker 2: that things are trending up. Win totals over two and

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01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: a half minus one to forty five. It's taken some

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: money from its opener they have If you look, you

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Speaker 2: know I mean Texas. I guess you have to say

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Speaker 2: Texas at home is a winnable game based on the history.

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Speaker 2: But the obvious winnable games for Kansas are Tennessee Tech

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01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 2: at home to open the year. They have Duke at

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Speaker 2: home as a non conference game. They also get Iowa

1344
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: State at home. We talked about everything that Iowa State lost.

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Speaker 2: They get Oklahoma State at home after a bye, and

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Speaker 2: then of course Texas, who Texas fans are going to

1347
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: be afraid of that game. So there's some winnable games here.

1348
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Speaker 2: I and I think that Daniels is going to give

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: them a better shot to win on a weekly basis

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01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: starting from week one. And you have to be like

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01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: with a first your head coach, first year coordinator, and

1352
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: then a quarterback change last year and all of that

1353
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: coming back with a lot of experience, you have to

1354
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: be a bit optimistic for how Kansas closed the year

1355
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: and assume that they're going to take some of that

1356
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: momentum into next year. The defense. Is a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions on that defense. That are your thoughts on rock chalk.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going over, We're going over two and a half.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna enjoy this all. Listen, Lancelot Bold everywhere that

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Speaker 1: he has been, he has made something out of nothing.

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01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: A year ago. He takes this job after spring practice,

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01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: right after spring games. So I mean talk about coming

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01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: in at the wrong time to get this position. And

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Speaker 1: a year ago at this time, like when two days practice,

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: when fall camp started, they didn't know who the quarterback's

1366
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: going to be. We have defined roles, we have defined positions.

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Speaker 1: We're in a much better stance from experience perspective than

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Speaker 1: we were a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Second in the nation and penalties too, which is a

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01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: really good sign for a first year head coach. They

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01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: were second, had the second fewest penalty yards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's what he does. And I

1373
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: have to remind everybody when.

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Speaker 3: Lance Lightpool was it at Buffalo in the MAC, he

1375
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: always had he was outside the top ten and recruiting

1376
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: in that conference, and yet they were always in the

1377
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Speaker 3: MAC championship game or at least contending for it in

1378
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: that division.

1379
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Speaker 1: So he knows how to get no matter what quality player,

1380
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: what starr he is, He's able to make something out

1381
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: of nothing. And I think what everybody needs to point

1382
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: to is is that on defense you mentioned no pass

1383
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: rush whatsoever. I would say the biggest move.

1384
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: In the teens all year fourteen, that.

1385
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: Was it, the biggest. The biggest move in the transfer

1386
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: portal that went unnoticed was edge Lonnie Phillips Lonnie Phelps

1387
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: coming from Miami, Ohio number one in the nation per

1388
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: PFF in pressure rate, twenty one percent pressure rate. Anytime

1389
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: the balls snapped one out of every five times he's

1390
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: getting pressure on the quarterback. That is monster. That's going

1391
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: to be big for this And and you know Jalen

1392
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Daniel's over on the offensive side. You know there's not

1393
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: a huge sample set of him throwing, but the highlights

1394
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: for him came on the ground, lined up in shotgun pistol,

1395
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: running the RPO. Daniels has the plenty of ability to

1396
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: do things outside the tackle box. The Jayhawks are going

1397
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: to be monster favorites over Tennessee Tech. They're gonna be

1398
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: five and a half point favorites at Duke on September

1399
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: twenty fourth. So then after that, you just got to

1400
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 1: find a win on the schedule. West Virginia, Texas, Tech,

1401
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: Iowa State. These teams are going through a complete rebuild

1402
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: of roster construction. There's coordinators getting mixed in there, and

1403
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: you know they're they all all those teams are leaning

1404
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: heavy on the portal. You include Houston. I mean, they're

1405
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna be an underdog in all these spots, but there's

1406
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot of games where they can get that third win.

1407
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: And so I'm a I am a believer in what's

1408
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: going on up there. I think they got the right

1409
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: coach for somebody. The kind of talent they bring in

1410
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: through the through the recruiting every year, I think that

1411
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to win three games here.

1412
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean I projected them at two point four, and

1413
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: we're just going to have a leap of faith. I mean,

1414
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: no one would have guessed the Jayhawks wouldat Texas last year,

1415
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: and they did. I think the programs on the upturn,

1416
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: I think three would be a great season.

1417
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: All right, fuck it, I'll join you. Rockshawk team. Daniels. Yeah,

1418
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: that duke that came again suits at home, that's actually

1419
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: in Lawrence. So yeah, they they you know, even I

1420
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: mean at West Virginia, it's probably a lost game. Two

1421
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 2: in at Houston's probably lost. But Tennessee Tech and Duke

1422
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: at Home, good chance if they start two and two

1423
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 2: to start the year and build on that MOMENTU from

1424
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: last year. All right, good stuff with the big twelve

1425
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: shot that Brett McMurphy for joining us as well. Come

1426
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: before you got out of here, just highlight if you

1427
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: want to just run through a couple, you can, but

1428
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: highlight if you want to list them, but highlight your

1429
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: favorite future win total all start mind just Oklahoma State

1430
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: under eight and a half. I think the loss of

1431
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: Gym Knowles, the losses that they suffered at linebacker and

1432
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: in the secondary. Combine that with some on the offensive

1433
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: Side's your leading rusher, your leading receiver? I have some

1434
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: questions about the offensive line. If anything happens to standards,

1435
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: who will probably give away a game or two for

1436
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: a team that has a lot of regression coming from

1437
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: them if they're benefiting from just great turnover luck, close

1438
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: game luck in it verd and whistle luck. I don't

1439
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 2: think that Oklahoma State gets to nine wins this year.

1440
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: So I'm going under eight and a half in Oklahoma State,

1441
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: and I also took a shot in Texas to win

1442
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: the big twelve three to one or better, calling you

1443
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: favorite future that you want to talk about.

1444
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean from a winning the conference perspective, I'll

1445
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: do TCU. I take it all the way down to

1446
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: fourteen to one out there. It's not being talked enough

1447
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: about Joseph Gillespie taking over as defensive coordinator, how they've

1448
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: utilized the portal to kind of wash away the numbers

1449
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: they had. Don't base things on TCU after what happened

1450
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: last season. It's a brand new era with Sunny Dykes,

1451
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: and he's going to get it going. From a win

1452
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: total perspective, I like the Baylor under what I didn't

1453
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: mention before they went four and one in games that

1454
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: were decided within one possession last year. There is definitely

1455
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: a second order win total negative effect that went against

1456
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: their power rating this offseason. They are completely empty on

1457
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: their skill positions from a wide receiver and from a

1458
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: running back perspective. Yes, they have great trenches, but they're

1459
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: using the portal heavily to learn a day of a

1460
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: random defensive system that runs just a half dozen different

1461
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: personnel groups. This is a really tough schedule that you know,

1462
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: second order win total, that Carmel luck that they've had

1463
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: in one possession games, that's going to come back and

1464
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: get them. And this is a team that's going to

1465
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: go under their win total of seven and a half

1466
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: eight if you can get it, but I project them

1467
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: a little bit above six.

1468
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. They are also lost secondary two in the secondary

1469
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: of the NFL, as well as their nickelback, and they

1470
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: have no returning receivers with double digit catches. So yeah,

1471
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: the offensive line, look, they have four starters who have

1472
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: to return for a fifth year. Should be great, but

1473
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: we're also not fans of shape and so I would

1474
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: agree with you there. All right, thanks everyone for tuning in.

1475
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 2: Like I mentioned before, we'll be while you're listening to this,

1476
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: it might already be out, but we're gonna doing the

1477
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: ACC Betting preview tomorrow followed by the Big ten SEC

1478
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: PAC twelve. We have two episodes for the SEC and

1479
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: before then we'll have our recap episode, go over all

1480
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: of our favorite features, go through every conference with Colin

1481
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: and myself, and then before you know it, the week

1482
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: zero preview will be here. Make sure you tune into

1483
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: the group of five episodes all year along with Mike,

1484
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: and Mike could do a great job as well. So

1485
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,600
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Speaker 2: just came back. We're gonna be just pumping out episodes

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