WEBVTT - Death Row Inmate Delivers a Final Blow With His Final Words 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:06.440 Hey, folks, it is Wednesday, April twenty second, and a 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:11.639 family that waited thirty six years for justice finally saw 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:17.400 the man responsible for their loved ones death executed last night. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.959 Was that closure? Not exactly? 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.360 When you hear his final words and with that, welcome 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.400 to this episode of Amy and TJ. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:27.360 Rose. 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.560 There's always a fascination with final words. I'm always usually 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:36.479 a little surprised at it. And you know what, Robes, 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.360 this is. Is this the last thing a family wants 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.760 to hear in this moment when you're finally watching the 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.200 person be punished for what they did to your family. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.440 No, in a very simple way to respond to you, 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.760 I think this was an opportunity for peace, for closure, 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:59.680 and instead, last night Chadwick Scott Willisey gave the family 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.720 of the woman he was convicted of viciously murdering anything 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.080 butt closure. In fact, he left them with questions, he 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:09.160 left them with pain. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:10.959 It was a final blow. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.440 And yes, there is a that's that man. That's no 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.560 other way to put it. We haven't gotten it. And 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.679 you tell me, Robes, we'll get into the crime. Because 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.240 we've been talking about this story and this execution coming up, 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.039 and once again it happened in Florida there, fifth of 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.160 the year, eighth in the country. But robes this case. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.000 Have you seen a reaction from the family yet? Before 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:32.160 we get into it is what I want to ask. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.679 Have you seen them react to what he said in 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:35.520 the descrit. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.520 I have not seen any reaction to what he said, 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.039 only that they had been waiting for this day for 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:41.319 thirty six years. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.920 And a reminder here, folks, again, this was nineteen ninety correct. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.440 Neighbor walks in on him robbing her home. He beats her, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.520 ties her up, takes her debit card, goes to the bank, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.520 gets her money out, comes back like he tied her up. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.720 He essentially tortured woman and then lights her on fire. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.040 She died or do I have it right? Smoke in elation? 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.840 Her cause of death was smoking elation. Yes, she was 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:11.120 bludgeoned first, then strangled with the telephone cord, got her 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.280 pin number with that torture, and then not only did 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.240 he set her on fire. For whatever reason, this part 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.839 of the story just stood out to me. The fact 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:24.200 that he took the time to set a fan, to 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.400 plug it in, and to like blow the fan on 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.160 her as he set her on fire. To ignite or 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.600 to further fan the flames to kill her. And yes, 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.800 she died of smoking elation. It was his fingerprints on 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.280 that fan that was part of the evidence that convicted 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.880 him ultimately of her torturous, brutal, vicious murder. 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.960 She was alive when she was set on fire. So 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.200 what we're talking about is not necessarily a case where 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.960 people were beating some drum of this man's innocence at all. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.920 But one person who was is. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.560 Him Chadwick Scott Willis. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:03.440 That willisye is the guy who has maintained his innocence. However, 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:08.040 Robes and his appeals here in the last few days 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.919 and weeks leading up to execution, he was making appeals, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.320 but he wasn't arguing for new evidence or arguing for 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:15.040 his innocence. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.320 No, he says he's innocent, but he had never offered 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.560 any proof for any sort of explanation or any other 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:26.040 theory where he was beating that drum to say, hey, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:27.600 let me out because I didn't do this. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.040 No, he was trying. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.000 To stop the state from executing him based on their 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:37.800 execution practices, based on the lethal injection protocol. It was technical, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:42.119 not evidentiary that he was trying to basically stop his execution. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.280 All right, so as we lead now, this all now 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.880 leads us up to letting you set the stage for 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.200 last night and his last words. Execution schedule for six 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.400 o'clock apparently went off without a hitch, no issues anything, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.000 they are reported, but always of interest what the final 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.040 words will be. There were members of the family of 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.400 this victim who were there last night to witness so 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.920 robes and his opportunity, as they always give them to 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.760 say their final words. He said several things that we 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.320 can paraphrase, but then he said something directly that we 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.240 have verbatim to the family. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.800 Yes, he began by apologizing to his own family and friends. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.520 Then he urged his brothers on the row to stay 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.679 strong the other guy's on death row. And then here's 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.719 what he said, turning to the victim's family. I hope 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.719 this brings you peace. If it does, that's good. But 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.400 this is not right. I would never kill my friend, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.960 and we were friends. That's tough to hear. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.040 God bless America out of the. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:45.080 Man who a jury of his peers convicted for the 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.400 brutal murder of your mother, and he turns to you 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:53.080 directly and says this ain't right and. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.760 Says I didn't do it, and his last opportunity to 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:02.120 speak on this earth he leaves with I didn't do it. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.520 I don't know how that sits. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.200 Maybe the family that just rolls off them and they 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.400 know but rogues in that last moment. Why would he 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.320 take them that. I don't know what that does to 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.320 the family. I'm very curious to hear their reaction. 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.560 I would never kill my friend, and we were friends. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:23.160 Even if you believe with one hundred percent of every 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.159 fiber of your being that you believe he is guilty. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:31.160 You saw the legal process play out over many, many decades, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.080 and the consensus was always the same that he, in fact, yes, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.000 killed this poor woman, Marla Sather, in her own home. 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.800 And still to hear him look you in the eye, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:47.320 or to be staring out and saying that, I don't 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.240 know if that ever leaves you and you might have 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:55.800 just the tiniest bit of guilt that he now postiled 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:56.400 on you. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.159 Maybe not well, no, no, that's the thing what I 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.680 would feel, even if it's a point one percent of doubt, 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:07.320 that's too much to have to deal with that. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.680 That what is it? What was in his mind is 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:09.760 psyche that moment. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.839 Why and you have to wonder an innocent man, I 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.919 stopped your last breath. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.240 It's your last breath, mate, it wasn't me. 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.360 Is the last thing he wants to say after thirty 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:23.800 six years on death row and. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.960 The whole I hope this gives you peace, but it 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.200 ain't right. That's dripping and sarcasm. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.760 I don't know, no, you d It feels. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.640 Like why would he so if he really does hope 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.360 his death gives this family peace, but then says this 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:36.960 isn't right. 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.839 I would never kill my friend and we were friends. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.080 That just negates everything you just said beforehand, because you 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.880 did anything but give them peace. You now just disrupted 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.120 any piece they might have thought they had. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:49.320 And maybe he didn't. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.120 I'm just looking at it from my perspective, and look, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.359 they may hate this man and have been waiting for 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.320 this day for so long that whatever he said just 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:58.240 fell on deaf ears. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.440 And I hope that's the case. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.120 But still to just have that be your final I 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.480 feel like that was a final f you. And anyone 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.400 who was capable of doing what a jury convicted him 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.080 of doing would certainly be capable of giving a final 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.680 blow to the family before he. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.160 Dies, more than I guess you could argue, right rogues. 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:22.480 But here's the other thing. Has he said any of 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.240 this before last night? Has there been any effort to 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.920 have outreach to the family, been anything in court where 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.200 he was screaming about his innocence. I would never do that. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:33.800 I don't know. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.560 It's just just come now, don't know so what I'm saying. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.120 I set that up to say. Maybe the family heard 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:43.120 that and thought, yeah, typical, Yeah that's possible. We expected 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.640 that from him, and they just rolled or right on. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.760 But you know, there are just some things, even if 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.920 you don't think they're true, even if you believe they 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.080 aren't true, that just linger in your head. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.520 And that's just what I fear for the family. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.320 I hope that that doesn't happen, but I know if 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:58.560 it were me, it probably would. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.560 But we this it out to us Robs because we 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.360 have been keeping an eye a lot on executions in 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.280 the record pace that Florida has been on or it 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.240 listens last year, but it's fascinating to hear some final 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.960 words and they can make a difference. And we juxtaposed 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.560 what we had last night with recent ones that we 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.160 saw robes in which it wasn't just us that heard 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.640 his final words. The family heard it, and the family 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.560 said it was meaningful to hear what he said. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.160 Yeah, so this does matter. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.880 Yes, this one that really stood out, and this was basically, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.440 if any person who has been convicted and is on 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.439 death row and is about to be sentenced to death, 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.240 and is it about to meet his or her maker, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.559 Ciedric Rix, he did it right. March eleventh, twenty twenty six. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.920 He murdered his girlfriend and her son, nearly killed her 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:55.160 other son, but spirit his own infant son. What he 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.840 said in his final words was remarkable. We'll read it 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.480 for you, just in juxtaposition of what we just heard 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.640 yesterday from Willisey. Here's what Ciedric Rick said. First, I 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.920 want to say I'm sorry for taking Roxanne and Anthony 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.559 away from y'all. I can't imagine the pain it has 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.199 caused you. I'm glad I'm able to speak to tell 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.000 y'all that face to face. I just hope one day 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.839 you can find forgiveness in your heart so you don't 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.720 have to live with the pain anymore. And to Marcus, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.280 this is the young son he almost killed. I always 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.319 thought about you, and I'm sorry that I took your 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.000 mom and brother away. I hate that you had to 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.720 experience that I just can't imagine. But I'm truly sorry 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.720 for what I've done. And I wish all peace and 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.679 joy as much as you can, but i'm sorry. I 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:45.160 can say nothing else. Reyes, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man, Lonnie, 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.920 I'm sorry, Marcus, I'm sorry. He basically just tells everyone, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.360 I don't wish y'all any more pain. I hope y'all 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.160 go in peace. I really do. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:54.120 I'm sorry. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:59.000 Family themselves said I made a difference. Mike didn't, didn't 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.200 have didn't want their hearts necessarily to some killer. But Robes, 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.720 that's closure that they got, admitted what he did, said, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.559 he's sorved for what he did. He was now given 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.560 that justice for what he did. Finally, that's kind of 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.760 a finally that Robes that to hear them say that 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.959 was meaningful made me now pay attention to final words 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.960 and why the ones from last night hit so hard, like, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.079 come on, you. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.680 Ass exactly, and look you think about these folks and 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.559 I don't know how many of them are religious. In fact, 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.560 it should be pointed Willisy didn't meet with the spiritual advisor, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.480 so he may not have any sort of connection to 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.040 any religion or any spiritual afterlife thoughts, and so maybe 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.720 that's why he was able to just go out with 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.160 an f you. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:43.920 But it did. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.120 It is notable when you read these or you hear 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.080 these final words, I do feel my whole body relaxed, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.040 like I don't have skin in the game, and I 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.600 feel peace, not peace just for the family, but peace 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:58.120 for that person who is going on, moving on, passing 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.040 on to something else. There's I would imagine a real 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.080 burden that's lifted off of their shoulders when they admit it, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.920 when they apologize for it, when they ask for forgiveness. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.080 And if they'd have done that sooner, maybe they could 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.400 have saved their lives. But they're trying to stay out 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.600 of prison in the first place, where ropes nobody admits 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:16.679 too much of it. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:17.440 Has anyone ever? 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.199 Do people get the death penalty for No, you don't 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.760 get the death penalty when you confess. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.640 Typically that is that is why people plead guilty, because 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.600 they put the death penalty off the table. They instead 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.320 get life in prison. It's the folks who've refused to admit. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.120 It's the folks who've refused to plead guilty, those are 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.280 the ones who end up on death row. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:35.560 Correct. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.480 Charles Victor Thompson was another This was the first execution 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.280 of the year. And again Robes another person here who 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.200 used the words sorry in final words. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.800 Yeah, his final words. This is January twenty eight, twenty 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.880 twenty six. There are no winners in this situation. He 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.360 did say his execution creates more victims and traumatizes more 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.800 people twenty eight years later. But I'm sorry for what 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.160 I did. I'm sorry for what happened, and I want 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.440 to tell all of y'all I love you, and that 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:04.960 keep Jesus in your life. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.200 Just keep Jesus first. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.320 A lot of guys fine religion behind bars, and I 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.199 think it's genuine. I think it's authentic many times. So 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.560 this is a guy who killed his ex girlfriend and 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.040 her new boyfriend. Another horrific crime. But in the end, 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:22.040 that's what he had to say. Ronald Palmer Palmer Heath, 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.360 this was a pretty vicious crime. This is the one 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:29.960 in Flits, Florida, right. He murdered a traveling salesman. Short 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.920 and sweet, but still the words sorry got in there. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:33.840 Yes, it was. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.760 I think they said nine words that delivered a powerful 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.760 impact for the victim's family. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.079 He just said, I'm sorry. That's all I can say. 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.160 Thank you. Right, that's enough. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.199 The guy Cedric you just mentioned, he had a long statement. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.040 He said a lot, and it was impactful. But just 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.200 the two words I'm sorry didn't have to explain a 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.000 whole lot. It still meant something. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:56.560 It does. 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.720 Man, that's incredible. Well, folks, stay here. We've been sharing. Yeah, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.520 some final words from folks executed this year. But what 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.120 do you remember what Ted Bundy said? Do you remember 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.839 what some other high profile, even famous killer said in 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:12.640 their final words? 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:13.760 Will remind you? Stay here? 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:23.560 All right? 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.520 We continue here on Amy and TJ following last night's 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:32.840 execution in Florida. Final words coming from a condemned killer. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.599 Of those final words were I didn't do it. I 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.559 would never do it. And it had just been here 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.440 discussing rogues the impact they could possibly have on a family. 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.360 We haven't heard from that family just yet of the impact, 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.920 if it had any at all. But I forgot some 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.520 of these. You looked up some of these from the past, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.720 and I forgot some of it. I can't remember what 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.920 John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy or Tim McVay might 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.280 have said in their final ones. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.640 I do not why do not? Do we not know? 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.480 Is this a thing? And I just forgot what John 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:00.280 Wayne Gay. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.720 I did not know this at all. I actually was 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.839 fascinated looking up. I tried to think of some of 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:09.439 the more famous, notorious killers who've been executed over the decades. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.880 And John Wayne Gacy one of the most notorious serial killers. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.760 How many dozens and dozens of little boys as he 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.320 dressed up as a clown, tortured, sexually, assaulted, murder. This 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.960 is as vicious as it gets. He was executed May tenth, 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.880 nineteen ninety four. He had three words for his final words, 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:33.040 and they were kiss my ass. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.880 I mean, okay, that's tough. I mean he followed, he 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.760 stayed in on brand, didn't he. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.040 So I actually was thinking I would prefer that to 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:50.720 what we heard yesterday from uh, from Willisey, who said 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.040 this is not right. I would never kill my friend, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.640 we were friends, giving that to the family versus kiss 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:57.080 my ass. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.240 Give me kiss my ass. Now I can hate you 0:14:59.320 --> 0:14:59.840 even more. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.960 Like it's not he's not denying it, he's not asking 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.800 for forgiveness. Fine, but I kind of feel like, yeah, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.680 he stayed on brand, the vicious killer that he was. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.120 It doesn't make you feel bad at. 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.400 All, you you know it. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.080 It's kind of u and I feel I don't feel 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:15.920 so bad about saying I hope he burns in hell. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.920 Right, That's exactly what that lends you to feel after 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.760 someone says something like that, who was convicted of doing 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.320 the worst of the worst of the worst to so 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.680 many families. His final words, kiss my ass. I was 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.800 blown away by that, babe. I had no idea. I 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.840 had no idea. Those were John Wayne Gacy's final words. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.400 All right, Ted Bundy. He was executed January twenty fourth, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.240 nineteen eighty nine. He was convicted and executed for three 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.840 of the dozens and dozens of murders he admitted to 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.840 I think thirty, but they believe he could have up 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.200 to one hundred victims. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.680 Oh yeah, they're still counting they yeah, yeah, there's still 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:52.320 about it. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.520 They're still tying him to murders, just one recently this month, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.200 based on new DNA technology where they were able to 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.840 actually close some cases of unsolved murders that he was 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.800 always suspected of, but now we know he actually committed. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:10.240 So his final words he directed towards his attorneys who 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.040 were there in the room. Interesting, he said, I'd like 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.840 you to give my love to my family and friends. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.560 That's it. Interesting. Yeah, charming till the end. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.520 Damn he stayed on brand too, didn't he? And creeps 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.040 you out, like why did he say that? I guess 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:29.960 there's mystery and injury even around that. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.280 He probably said it with a smile on his face 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.120 and a twinkle in his eye, because that's what he 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:38.000 was known for being, charming, being just a lovely person 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.920 who no one would suspect had this horrific, dark, sociopathic 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.000 side to him. So, yeah, that is on brand as well. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.440 Now I think the next one, Timothy McVeigh, also on brand. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:53.160 He was executed executed June eleventh, two thousand and one, 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.240 obviously for the Oklahoma City bombing. 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.520 What would you think? Have you looked at what his 0:16:58.560 --> 0:16:59.200 final words were? 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.880 Yet, he was a militant dude, and he was so 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.960 to think of his mind. He probably went out with 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.440 a bang. He probably went out with a well, maybe 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.000 not a scripture, but something from a manifesto somewhere. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.119 Okay, I don't know you're on track. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.479 Oh yeah, because I didn't think you looked at this one, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:15.359 Timothy McVeigh. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:17.239 And again I covered this. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.440 I remember this day when we woke up the next 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.919 morning and we covered it. I still did not remember. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.960 This is what he said. It matters not how straight. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.520 The gate, how charged with punishments the scroll I am 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.240 the master of my fate. I am the captain of 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:32.720 my soul. 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.240 So it's a poem. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.679 It rhymed fate scroll soul, you know what I You know, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.760 I didn't look up to see if he was quoting someone, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.919 but those were his final words, and again dramatic, you 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.320 would think, wanting to there's a there's a feeling of 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.280 self importance right to that, I would say, And that 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.520 would fit exactly with what Timothy mcvaye's last word. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:55.400 Yes he quoted. 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:01.600 It's the eighteen seventy five poem Invictus by William Ernest Henley. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:07.000 So yes, it's a declaration of resilience, self mastery and defiance. 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.240 And that is exactly what you would expect from someone 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.280 like Timothy McVeigh for his final words. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.119 Do you have any idea we're so we all fear death, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.800 and part of fearing death is fearing how we're going 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:25.880 to die, And I'm fascinated. Well, you can't even sit 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.000 and fat and try to piece together what would be 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.520 the last words you had if they knew you were 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.040 going to be your last I don't know, if you 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:34.680 knew they. 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.280 Were going to be your last, right. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.000 It would be a message of love. It would be 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.040 a message of love. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:44.399 I mean, obviously, I know these men aren't known for 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:48.560 that side of themselves. And to your point, they were 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.680 all on brand, and maybe we just have to acknowledge 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.919 that last night, Chadwick Willisey stayed on brand. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.280 I was the last thing I'll leave you you with 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.920 as because I found you know me, I started doing 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.080 research on this stuff, and there's been a lot of 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.760 studies on people's last words, and they say it's surprising 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.679 that they don't usually express a fear of death in 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.040 those moments. It's shocking usually. But we are all looking 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:17.800 at it and all amaze and why we have this 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.560 fascination with final words that goes back hundreds of I 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.959 mean centuries and centuries when they this practice is not 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.600 Nobody can even trace the origins of when the tradition started. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:28.480 Of public executions. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.640 Yes, they think yes, But everybody just give an opportunity 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.480 to say something, and so we have it, we continue it. 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:42.040 Research has revealed as surprisingly strong predominance of positive emotional 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:46.800 sentiments and death row inmates last words accompanied by expressions 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:51.800 of love, affection, apologies, and religion reflecting death row inmates 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:58.040 existential communication concerns in their final minutes of life. It's like, wow, 0:19:58.440 --> 0:19:59.600 that makes sense. 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:00.120 It does. 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.600 And I think those are people who believe they are 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.000 going somewhere and they need to make amends, hoping to 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:10.440