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Speaker 1: films to be buried with. Hello, and welcome to films
Speaker 1: to be married with. It is me Brett Goldstein, and
Speaker 1: I am joined today by an actor, a right her,
Speaker 1: an award winner, an instagrammer, a Twitter tara, a guilty feminist,
Speaker 1: a podcaster, a woman of the people, a saint amongst
Speaker 1: us that walks as if she's not one and keeps
Speaker 1: it under her, a legend, a superstar, and the greatest
Speaker 1: person currently on a zoom. Please welcome to the show,
Speaker 1: the brilliant Susie. We go. Ah, it's only going to
Speaker 1: get better. You thought that was good? Wait, I stout
Speaker 1: talking just you wait. Thank you for doing this, Susie.
Speaker 1: It's lovely to see you, Lesia, lovely to see you.
Speaker 1: I suppose we have to ask, how is your lockdown life?
Speaker 1: How is your pandemic life? It's just it's what it
Speaker 1: isn't it? Oh, it's fine. Have you done any acts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've done. I've done like lots of voiceovers right loads,
Speaker 1: which has been lovely. Okay, I'm about to start filming
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. That's like my first like
Speaker 1: proper big chunk of filming, which will probably stop after
Speaker 1: a day. Yeah. Yeah, that's Batman in it. Like they
Speaker 1: started shooting Batman, they were like, yeah, let's start, and
Speaker 1: then Robert Patterson got Batman got COVID. Yeah, it sort
Speaker 1: of undermines your superhero if your superhero gets COVID. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have you been told if you can tell
Speaker 1: us if you're shooting in two weeks, have you been
Speaker 1: sent like a list of rules of things you're going
Speaker 1: to have to do? Well, I'm self isolating right now.
Speaker 1: So we've got a self icol for two weeks before
Speaker 1: we start, and then basically we can sort like the
Speaker 1: actors because we've got like being scenes together and stuff
Speaker 1: and all of that. But like everyone else is like
Speaker 1: they have to keep away from us. Apparently there's COVID
Speaker 1: police on set with like a measuring thing sing too,
Speaker 1: but that's new, that's a new job. Yeah, COVID police
Speaker 1: and what they're going to do like poke you with
Speaker 1: a stick to move you back a bit. I hope
Speaker 1: so they don't come near it. I hope so, I
Speaker 1: hope get away from Susan. I'm like, go away from
Speaker 1: poking for you. Sounds all right, that's quite a good gig.
Speaker 1: Also a good TV show Corona Please cod I mean
Speaker 1: it depends. You have to think about the life of
Speaker 1: the show, like how much can you kind of squeeze
Speaker 1: from it? Like how long is this going to go
Speaker 1: on for? If this is forever, then you've got what
Speaker 1: twenty eight series the reckon you got well, because there's
Speaker 1: there's the sort of please camera action version where we're
Speaker 1: just filming Corona Police. But that's the one. I forget
Speaker 1: the other way. That's the word. It's the reality one.
Speaker 1: That's what you want. And just you can do the
Speaker 1: voiceovers when you're isolating joint is poking Susan with a
Speaker 1: stick because he can see she's thirty centimeters over the lane.
Speaker 1: I'd watched this show. Do you watch it? Would? Actually,
Speaker 1: to be fair, riddle me this right, here's the truth.
Speaker 1: Hands in the air. I've known you. I've known you
Speaker 1: as an actor, and i've known you on the podcasts
Speaker 1: and being very funny and interesting. I didn't know until
Speaker 1: I did a little google that you've got a series
Speaker 1: of sex lads. Do you know what when you said that, Honestly,
Speaker 1: my heart went, Oh my god, that out there it
Speaker 1: was going to happen. I've been waiting for the day
Speaker 1: that my public you need to come into the office.
Speaker 1: But you need to come into the office. There's pictures
Speaker 1: of your funny everywhere, and like, show me and then
Speaker 1: I'm going to show it to me. Funny. I just
Speaker 1: that funny, that funny checks. I'm proud of my fact.
Speaker 1: That's what when your picture of your family goes out.
Speaker 1: When my picture of my family goes out, which it will,
Speaker 1: I have to like, that's going to then be my career.
Speaker 1: It's just like proud of my fanny woman. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: you're then going to start doing like speaking arrangements and
Speaker 1: stuff where you go up, this is my family. Does it?
Speaker 1: Does it work you? Well, then there's something wrong with you. Yes.
Speaker 1: I like this show as well. This is a great
Speaker 1: picture meeting so far. Yes. Other than you the quite
Speaker 1: abandoned amount of sex tapes that are out there on
Speaker 1: the internet, I also discovered that you you were in
Speaker 1: the right. You were one of the writers on sex education,
Speaker 1: which yeah, I was in the writer's room. Can you
Speaker 1: explain how that works? And then because I've never understood,
Speaker 1: is it an English show? Yeah? So the writer's room
Speaker 1: is a very American thing. Yeah. They so this is
Speaker 1: for the second series, and the first series wasn't out yet,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't the big, huge show that it is.
Speaker 1: We didn't know what it was, right, And so they
Speaker 1: got a few of us in largely comedians, actually in
Speaker 1: the writer's room and we just bashed out ideas for
Speaker 1: a month really, and then a few of them got
Speaker 1: scripts and I didn't, which was like, okay, I know
Speaker 1: I'm busy, but I could say very rude. But yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it was interesting. I mean I enjoyed like the first
Speaker 1: bit of it because that was literally us going and
Speaker 1: what if she comes in with like three heads and
Speaker 1: then putting up in the board, what if she comes
Speaker 1: to the machine gun and all of that stuff. And
Speaker 1: then the second two weeks was like okay, now, seriously, no,
Speaker 1: we've got eight episodes that we need to map out,
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, oh, oh, maybe she goes to
Speaker 1: the shops. It was like that, I see that makes sense.
Speaker 1: How many of you were in the room. How many writers? Oh,
Speaker 1: how many of us? There was me, Richard god One,
Speaker 1: Risk One. It was like maybe four of us new Bees,
Speaker 1: and then Laurie who's the creator, Sophie, he'd been on
Speaker 1: the show before. Yeah, so there was like maybe eight
Speaker 1: of us in the room. It's quite intense. And it
Speaker 1: was above a sex shop on Oxford Street. Inspiration, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I think it's meant to
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, we're a double of a sex shop
Speaker 1: producting about sex. And then about day three I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that should be a pret was popping down for lunch.
Speaker 1: Does anyone need a deal? Day? I mean, oh yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it loses its people. Isn't it a sex shop after
Speaker 1: day three? It does? Yeah, especially if you're kind of
Speaker 1: like in the middle of town. You've been like, but
Speaker 1: you know, last day I did go in. I did
Speaker 1: get I quite remember I got. I did get like
Speaker 1: something nipple tassels. Oh, I think that's a classy buy
Speaker 1: from the sture. What did she I wouldn't have predicted that.
Speaker 1: What would you have predicted the old nipple tess? Mhm,
Speaker 1: I forget that. That's an option huh nips bothered. Fascinating
Speaker 1: because I've seen her her fanny out tour and I realized,
Speaker 1: haven't she showed the lips? Yeah, but it's a classy move.
Speaker 1: So and the last question before we get onto the
Speaker 1: very serious business of your life and chilm, what about
Speaker 1: the writing? So because you you made a short, you
Speaker 1: wrote a short, wrote one all the awards, It won
Speaker 1: all the awards, though, did a short with the sky
Speaker 1: the Sky comedy. They just basically asked me, do you
Speaker 1: want to write something? I was like, how quickly will
Speaker 1: it get made? Later next week? And I went all right,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to. I don't want to suck
Speaker 1: around with us, like I know what short films could be, like,
Speaker 1: get it quick if you got the money. Yes, all right?
Speaker 1: He as a fucking script. I didn't say that. I
Speaker 1: was very numb. It was very It's called Love the Sinner,
Speaker 1: and it's about my mum and her grieving for Princess Diana,
Speaker 1: which if anybody is from the African diasporo, that's a thing.
Speaker 1: Like my mum and all her friends, all these Nigerian
Speaker 1: women were obsessed with Diana, Like yeah, my mom had
Speaker 1: this book which was like Diana's fashions and it was
Speaker 1: just pictures of Diana, like getting out of cars at
Speaker 1: like premieres, and I used to I mean, my mum
Speaker 1: was angry about it, but I cut Diana out and
Speaker 1: they would put up my dolls of Diana like Diana
Speaker 1: was the one. She was the one. When when she died,
Speaker 1: my mum was. There is like a trope of like
Speaker 1: African women being very loud and whatnot, which isn't necessarily true.
Speaker 1: But on the morning of Diana's death, my mum was
Speaker 1: screaming on the floor like and it woke us kids up.
Speaker 1: We ran downstairs, run mom and bear in my I'm
Speaker 1: like nine, ten, I'm a child. I run in. Now
Speaker 1: look at the news and there's that the graphic footage
Speaker 1: of like the car being pulled out. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: look at my mom and my mum is on the
Speaker 1: floor weeping, screaming, taking me instead. That is the batum,
Speaker 1: the batum. Four kids we're looking at her, like mom,
Speaker 1: she was like, fuck the bathing. And I just thought
Speaker 1: even then, I was like this documents, No, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the short. Even then, looking at waving on the floor,
Speaker 1: I thought it's funny. This is good, this is good.
Speaker 1: This is some good stuff. What did your what's your your?
Speaker 1: Is your mum? She seen the short? Yeah, she seen
Speaker 1: the short. In fact, there's quite a few of the
Speaker 1: costumes that are her clothes. So I sort of went
Speaker 1: around to the old family house and we tried on
Speaker 1: lots of stuff, like stuff that I remember her wearing
Speaker 1: at like my little sister's fourth birthday and my birthday.
Speaker 1: It was really weird. He loved it, she was. She
Speaker 1: basically was like, it's a documentary about me. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty much. Yeah, kind oh, Suzi, Yeah, I forgoten to
Speaker 1: tell you something. What oh fuck? I should have said
Speaker 1: it at the beginning, maybe when I texted, h no,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to say it. I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: I'll just say it. You died, You died? Sorry, fucking yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you die? It was definitely choking. Yeah. One thing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm yeah, I do. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was at Thattude Festival and I was getting in this
Speaker 1: spirit of stuff and I put a lot of glitter
Speaker 1: on my face. I like to do that one side,
Speaker 1: nice little pattern there, and as I was dancing to
Speaker 1: I think it was Texas. Do you remember Texas? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Charlie Terry was giving it loudy on the step and
Speaker 1: the glitter melted down my face and into my mouth
Speaker 1: and then but I didn't I didn't think anything of
Speaker 1: it that I went back. Yeah. Yeah. Then I went
Speaker 1: back to my tent and I choked on my glitter
Speaker 1: died alone. Oh god, when did this happen? This happened
Speaker 1: last year? Yeah, yeah, God, And I'm sorry taking me
Speaker 1: this learns to tell you. I know, we just haven't
Speaker 1: been We've both been very busy. So I had a feeling.
Speaker 1: I just was walking around like I have a feeling,
Speaker 1: like no one called me. I was like, that's weird.
Speaker 1: I was checking whether I'm all right. Do you worry
Speaker 1: about death? Nah? Not really, not really, because it's just
Speaker 1: going to happen in it. I worry about the manner.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be like something horrific that
Speaker 1: my family have to think about. But I would like
Speaker 1: it to be funny, like oh, but like not har har,
Speaker 1: like you're in the church whilst my body is, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like she died. She died doing what she loved, oh,
Speaker 1: rather than she chucked on cheese. Which is so probable.
Speaker 1: So hang on, you don't want it a funny death,
Speaker 1: but you won't be funny. Yeah. So cheese, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she died. She died doing what she loved, eating cheese,
Speaker 1: and then got hit by a cut. Yes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so like but yeah, so it's like, oh sad, but
Speaker 1: she had cheese in her in her throat. I don't
Speaker 1: know you. Do you think there's an afterlife of some kind? Yeah? Yeah, totally, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I love it. Tell me listen. We don't know, right.
Speaker 1: So people who are like there's absolutely nothing afterwards, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't fucking know that. You don't know that you
Speaker 1: leave stupid little ship. Anything could be on the other
Speaker 1: side of this, and like, I've seen a ghost. So
Speaker 1: I'm afraid You're now going to have to tell this story.
Speaker 1: It would be remiss of me not too. Do you
Speaker 1: know it's actually linked to the first couple of questions? Okay,
Speaker 1: if it means that story is coming, I will put
Speaker 1: will hold off, hold on. But so you don't know,
Speaker 1: but you think that there's in your head? Do you
Speaker 1: think there's a heaven? Weird energy? Like? What what is it? Oh?
Speaker 1: And more an energy versus a god. But I think
Speaker 1: that this ship gets I basically think in life you're
Speaker 1: meant to like learn stuff you meant to. It's like
Speaker 1: Jedi school. You meant to learn all the ship. You're
Speaker 1: meant to be like up in your vibration. Boo boo
Speaker 1: boo boo booh. They die, right, There's loads of people
Speaker 1: who just don't do that because you're just too busy
Speaker 1: like scratching your balls and like just being a fucking
Speaker 1: dickhead on earth. So then you die and you haven't
Speaker 1: learned all the lessons. And if you haven't learned all
Speaker 1: the lessons, you're just going to keep doing this shit
Speaker 1: until you learn all the lessons. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: the things that you didn't learn before are just gonna come.
Speaker 1: So when people are gonna be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: my life is so hard, it's like, yeah, because you
Speaker 1: didn't learn your lesson when you're in the Victorian era.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes you learn your lesson, and sometimes you
Speaker 1: don't learn your lessons and then like it just continues.
Speaker 1: But people who are like on a higher vibration, I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a point where they just like become
Speaker 1: a tree. It's one of my favorite answers we've ever had.
Speaker 1: I don't really believe that I'm with you become a
Speaker 1: star or something. I don't know. I don't know. Where
Speaker 1: do you feel? I mean, you're on a pretty higher vibration.
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah? Yeah, I'm a bit psychic.
Speaker 1: Tell me everything that relates to another star? Great? Oh
Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. All right, well listen, let's
Speaker 1: get to it then, because I want to hear all
Speaker 1: this hit. Those weren't segues that I preplanned. I just
Speaker 1: am psychic, and there's something that comes I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't plan that. I know what you're going to ask me,
Speaker 1: so because I said you the questions because I'm psychic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've any questions? Right? No? What? Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: There is a heaven as well. You you pause there
Speaker 1: for a bit before you head back to learn more lessons. Right,
Speaker 1: and in this heaven, everyone wants to talk about this life.
Speaker 1: Not a TV show. They want to talk about your life.
Speaker 1: They want to know about your life through films. And
Speaker 1: the first thing they ask you is what's the first
Speaker 1: film you remember seeing? Cesar wookhma a film called a Necker,
Speaker 1: The Pretty Serpent. Hold up, it's an Hollywood film and
Speaker 1: it was like huge in the early nineties, like huge,
Speaker 1: like probably one of the first. If no one knows
Speaker 1: what Nollywood is, it's Nigerian Hollywood, Nigerian films. And my
Speaker 1: mum was in our front room with some girlfriends and
Speaker 1: they were watching this film and I came in that
Speaker 1: exactly like that, and I saw the image that I
Speaker 1: saw was this woman who like became a snake. No,
Speaker 1: she became a cat. And I had no context. No
Speaker 1: one was worried about the child in the room, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was the first. That was the first
Speaker 1: bit of movie I ever saw a woman becoming a cat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I must have been about maybe six five six. Where
Speaker 1: was this happening. This was in when we lived in
Speaker 1: Camberwell in our front room. Okay, yeah, and you got
Speaker 1: can I ask you've got brothers and sisters all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got older sister, older brother, little sister, so four
Speaker 1: of us, Okay, yeah, we're close in age. I'm really
Speaker 1: close to my little sister because she's cool and she
Speaker 1: thinks I'm cool because i'm older. But the other two,
Speaker 1: because I'm the younger, they think I'm a dickhead. But
Speaker 1: she very exciting, so she can stay there. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: that's good to know. So you saw a cat a
Speaker 1: woman turned into a cat, and did you think this
Speaker 1: is my future? Nah? I was like, oh, but like genuinely,
Speaker 1: I remember just going Oh. I felt concerned. I was
Speaker 1: a very concerned child. They say capricorns, which I am.
Speaker 1: They age backwards, so you come out the womb like,
Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about this. Yeah, and then as you
Speaker 1: get older, you just become a fucking clown, which is
Speaker 1: exactly what's happening with me. That's amazing. I walked in
Speaker 1: and I saw the screen and I just was very
Speaker 1: concerned for it was freaking me out. And also it
Speaker 1: was very it's nineties graphics and special effects, which is terrible.
Speaker 1: What's the show you do with Matt Berry Year of
Speaker 1: the Rabbit? I thought it was Year of the Cat
Speaker 1: for a second into it. If you turned into a rabbit,
Speaker 1: that would have been great, but different story. Fascinating. What
Speaker 1: is the film that scared you the most? He rubs
Speaker 1: his hands together. Well, I am afraid it is Anika
Speaker 1: the Pretty Serpent who hits for Anna the pretty Serpent.
Speaker 1: By the way, pretty Serpent. It turns into a cat.
Speaker 1: Where's the serpent? Bit? This is? This is what I
Speaker 1: don't remember. So the premise of the film is that
Speaker 1: it's this woman. She's a mermaid and she is disguised
Speaker 1: as a human and her mission on earth is to
Speaker 1: go after married men. This is a very nice Okay,
Speaker 1: So Nigerian films they've got I mean they've evolved now,
Speaker 1: but definitely in the nineties they had like a few subjects,
Speaker 1: like themes, and one was witchcraft. One was women taking
Speaker 1: married men, and then the other ones were witches taking
Speaker 1: married men and that was it. That was what the
Speaker 1: stories were. And so this woman was like a mermaid
Speaker 1: and she was like going after married men, and it
Speaker 1: shitted me up so badly that I developed nightmares for
Speaker 1: a year and developed sleep paralysis. Oh wow as a
Speaker 1: result of watching this because I would at the door
Speaker 1: and my mama and her friends didn't see see me.
Speaker 1: So I watched a lot of it. Do you still
Speaker 1: have sleep paralysis? I still have sleep paralysis? Yeah? That horrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when I'm like, I'm like, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: comes and goes and I haven't had it for a while.
Speaker 1: But it's hot. But imagine being a child that's fucked up.
Speaker 1: Do you imagine a cat woman sat on your chest?
Speaker 1: I'm I did imagine a cat at the end of
Speaker 1: my bed. Yeah, and it would sort of just look
Speaker 1: at me and then it would crawl up and then
Speaker 1: it would disappear, like into my belly, so it would
Speaker 1: go like walk but that and I thought it was
Speaker 1: like I thought I was pregnant. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of things going on as child. I thought it was
Speaker 1: pregnant with the cats. Yeah, yeah, dark stuff. You can
Speaker 1: watch it. It's like on YouTube, this film. I like
Speaker 1: the sound of it. So do you like being scared?
Speaker 1: You don't like being scared? I thought of d I thought,
Speaker 1: I like, I hate it, but I love it. I
Speaker 1: love the build up to it, and then when it happens,
Speaker 1: I fucking hating. Then afterwards, I'm I survived. I do quite.
Speaker 1: I do idea, I do quite like it. What is
Speaker 1: the film that made you cry the most? I Daniel Blake,
Speaker 1: I Daniel Blake, end credit after the end, or bring
Speaker 1: for anyone. But I sat in the cinema and I
Speaker 1: cried so heavily. Number one, I got a nose bleed, yeah,
Speaker 1: And number two the woman sat in the row ahead
Speaker 1: of me came around, sat next to me and gave
Speaker 1: me a hug. That's so sweet. I was INCONSI I was,
Speaker 1: and I think I think one of the things was
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to get that emotional like when I
Speaker 1: was watching. When I see those kind of films that
Speaker 1: are very kind of gritty and very realistic, there's a
Speaker 1: bit of me that's a little bit on the defense
Speaker 1: of it, just because I am working class, and sometimes
Speaker 1: when I've watched films like that, I'm a bit like, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not going to make me cry man this film,
Speaker 1: and I was like strong like most of it, I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I know this happens. I know this happens.
Speaker 1: This has happened to neighbors and friends of mine. I
Speaker 1: know you're not preaching to me. I know. And then
Speaker 1: by the end, no one's done. I was done. Yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: that is totally legit answer. But I do have to
Speaker 1: point out that we're three questions in and you still
Speaker 1: haven't told me where this ghost comes. Do you promise
Speaker 1: this ghost story is coming? Okay? No, I have to
Speaker 1: tell the ghost story. Okay. Oh. I didn't say yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I assumed it was in this scary movie a bit,
Speaker 1: but it was, and I forgot. Okay, there's quite a
Speaker 1: few during that. Okay, all right, the scary story. I
Speaker 1: was in bed um and I used to share a
Speaker 1: bunk bed with my older brother who's like a year
Speaker 1: and a half older than me, so we were like kids.
Speaker 1: And he was on the top bunk. I was on
Speaker 1: the bottom bunk, and he was talking to me, like
Speaker 1: we would tell each other's stories and stuff like nothing scary,
Speaker 1: and he was talking to me, and all I could
Speaker 1: see at the end of the bed, so the bunk
Speaker 1: bed was this head appear upside down. By that went
Speaker 1: my hand and it had fangs and blood trickling down
Speaker 1: the fang, so the blood there was like a trail
Speaker 1: of blood going across the eyes upside down, just staring
Speaker 1: at me at the bottom of the bunk. Because when
Speaker 1: I get scaredbled when I was a kid, when I
Speaker 1: got scared, I just go silent. And then my brother
Speaker 1: was talking and I said to him, I was like,
Speaker 1: you are you looking at me over the bed right now?
Speaker 1: And then he popped his head down to the side
Speaker 1: here and he went, no, I'm not. And I looked
Speaker 1: at the end of the bed and it was still
Speaker 1: fucking there. Oh let's give me a shiver. No, no,
Speaker 1: you just literally popped the days up. No, I'm here.
Speaker 1: I went, Okay, that's right. Information. What was that? I
Speaker 1: don't know, but like what would happen? Like we sleep paralysis,
Speaker 1: you can sometimes like see hallucination, So I'm guessing it
Speaker 1: was that. But that, out of all of them, that
Speaker 1: was the most real and vivid, like to this day,
Speaker 1: I can see it before, Like all the other ones
Speaker 1: were like shapes and like a black sort of missed thing,
Speaker 1: but that one was like a fate and fangs in
Speaker 1: the blood. Yeah, it's unusual that you that you get
Speaker 1: vampires and guys stories, I know. Yeah, And I like that,
Speaker 1: breaking a breaking boundaries, mixing genres and I love it,
Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, shall tell you a little
Speaker 1: guy story. This fuck. So I read the book Conversations
Speaker 1: with Mark Frost. Mark Frost is the guy who with
Speaker 1: David Lynch made Twin Peaks. Huge fan. Anyway, this book
Speaker 1: is just a million you know, interviews with him and
Speaker 1: the guy's asking him like, are you you know what
Speaker 1: do you think about spiritual stuff? Blah blah blah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he says, one day we did a weegie board when
Speaker 1: I was he was working in a in a fiat
Speaker 1: in somewhere in America, and he said, him and the
Speaker 1: crew one night at midnight decided to do a weigie
Speaker 1: board in the empty on the empty stage, and he says,
Speaker 1: the thing started moving around. He said, look, you know,
Speaker 1: you can tell me whatever explanation you want. But the
Speaker 1: thing fucking moved at pace around and none of us
Speaker 1: were controlling it. And there had been this kid who
Speaker 1: had worked as an usher at the in the place,
Speaker 1: who'd hung himself in the place, and there'd always because
Speaker 1: it was the only place that he'd felt he belonged
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, it was like five years ago something
Speaker 1: like that. So they say, what's your name? And the
Speaker 1: thing spells out that that kid's name, and they say
Speaker 1: where are you and he says, he spells out t
Speaker 1: op top, but there isn't There is another stage space
Speaker 1: around the corner that is called the other place t op.
Speaker 1: So they say do you mean the other place and
Speaker 1: he says no, and then they hear running across the
Speaker 1: rafters above their head and they fucking run. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've scared myself telling that again a little Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I would have myself was start crying and he said,
Speaker 1: he said, I don't. He said, look, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it was, but I'll never do a
Speaker 1: Weedi board again. I don't think you should dabble with
Speaker 1: that stuff. I've never No. I think we tried to
Speaker 1: do on his kids, but we were like, we weren't
Speaker 1: taking it seriously. But I don't. I genuinely wouldn't do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. I don't want to invite because look,
Speaker 1: I'm thirty two. Then say I'm thirty two, Say I
Speaker 1: do a wedi bored like when things all a bit
Speaker 1: better when I'm thirty three, Then that's the rest of
Speaker 1: my life. I'm dealing with this fucking ghost. That's like
Speaker 1: being that's the rest of your life in it. That
Speaker 1: is the rest. But if you're doing it, if you're
Speaker 1: daming in your well, have you seen the film Host,
Speaker 1: the zoom horror film what oh, you gotta watch it?
Speaker 1: I assume everyone's seen it, but they haven't. Go on
Speaker 1: your Amazon and go to Shudder and watched the film
Speaker 1: called Host, which is a zoom and it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's going to be boring, but it's not. It's a
Speaker 1: zoom and they do a seance on the zoom. And
Speaker 1: then I did have it. I did to have a
Speaker 1: thing I've watched over zoom With two friends, I watched
Speaker 1: Don't Fuck with Cats, Oh yeah, and that it wasn't
Speaker 1: what I thought it was. It ended up being about
Speaker 1: this proper psychopath murderer. We watched it at night, and
Speaker 1: I kept so I'd be watching it on like one
Speaker 1: screen and then look at my friend's screen and I
Speaker 1: just kept imagine like somebody behind them as they're watching it,
Speaker 1: start cutting off their neck or something. Yeah. So there
Speaker 1: was two horror films going on at the same time.
Speaker 1: I was, oh stressed. I had to burn sage. I
Speaker 1: had to burn stage in my whole room. I was like,
Speaker 1: my guys thought that was so fun. Back, I love it,
Speaker 1: love it. Are you alone living alone? Yeah? I'm living alone.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm right. Yeah. Yeah, terrible, terrible, terrible to
Speaker 1: watch horror films and then have to Anyway, we'll move on.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you love? You love it.
Speaker 1: Most people don't like it. It's critically not acclaimed, but
Speaker 1: you don't give a shit. You're like this film, fucking
Speaker 1: brilliant burlesque. Wait a second, burlesque is the one who's
Speaker 1: the lead in that, Christina Aguilera's Christina Aguilera's film and Share.
Speaker 1: That's right, two titans. One film. Tell me about burlesque.
Speaker 1: I have to hands up. I have not seen burlesque.
Speaker 1: Would you believe it? You should carve some time out
Speaker 1: to watch burlesque. It's about this girl who's meant to
Speaker 1: be mousey, but she's Christine nut Aguilera, and she just
Speaker 1: wants to be a singing star. And so she turns
Speaker 1: up to this burlesque club in the middle of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and then she wants to get on stage and be
Speaker 1: a singer. But they're not about that, the burlesque club.
Speaker 1: They're about dancing, and so she starts off. I think
Speaker 1: she's called Ali, you know, one of those American names.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm a mouse. And then she's like serving
Speaker 1: drinks and shares like whoa, I'm Share, and she's like
Speaker 1: I want to be like Share. And then Stanley Tucci
Speaker 1: he's there like doing costumes, going m I'm you know
Speaker 1: Stanley tu when he does that, and then eventually she
Speaker 1: gets on the stage by way of this boy that
Speaker 1: she fancies. They're falling in love, and then she starts
Speaker 1: sing again, and then there's a song in it that
Speaker 1: she released. The thing that I love about it is
Speaker 1: the kind of small town girl makes it big star thing,
Speaker 1: which is just brilliant. The soft focus, you've never seen
Speaker 1: softer light on It's like it's by someone just got bassolina.
Speaker 1: I don't need to see anything. It's almost like they're
Speaker 1: trying to hide the film from you, like, don't really
Speaker 1: cross your eyes. Yeah, it's what they do. It's what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Don't see it really, And then you've got
Speaker 1: the other thing that I love about it is whoever
Speaker 1: edited it was on crack because they like there are
Speaker 1: scenes that just go like one person's talking and it
Speaker 1: will cut from that person to that person to that
Speaker 1: and then it's over. You're like, why are you rushing?
Speaker 1: Why are you rushing me? The edit is a thing
Speaker 1: of I've never seen just like that, that that that
Speaker 1: that someone's talking, the camera's gone there, we don't care
Speaker 1: about you. It's come back to you then and then
Speaker 1: this next scene, I'm not I'm very stressful. Edit is amazing.
Speaker 1: I really will watch that film now you've held it.
Speaker 1: When you watch it, you will know what I mean.
Speaker 1: By the editor, you'll know what I mean, love it.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you used to love? You
Speaker 1: loved it, but then you've watched it recently and you've gone,
Speaker 1: oh no, this doesn't held up for me. For whatever
Speaker 1: reason that may be, this one makes me really sad
Speaker 1: because because I put it on recently, remembering the feeling
Speaker 1: that I had when I watched it before, and I
Speaker 1: watched it a few times before loved it, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to feel like I was feeling a bit down.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna this is gonna pick
Speaker 1: me up. Yeah, And I watched it and I was like,
Speaker 1: this has not aged well in Bruges. Go on, talk
Speaker 1: to me. I got issues issues with that one. Well.
Speaker 1: I saw it when I was in I think it
Speaker 1: was in sixth form. I think I bunked off a
Speaker 1: class because I wanted to go to the cinema and
Speaker 1: I saw it and I loved it. I fell in
Speaker 1: love with Bruge. I was like, where is this magical?
Speaker 1: Fell in love with it to the point where I
Speaker 1: traveled to Bruge. I went terrailing around Europe and I
Speaker 1: ended in Bruge and I fucking did it, Like, it's
Speaker 1: really spooky. It's got a freemasony vibe. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: I went to go and see the blood, the christ
Speaker 1: blood that's been congealed like in the film, like proper.
Speaker 1: I loved it, but of a spooky vibe. Then I
Speaker 1: put it on and I was like, this is I'm
Speaker 1: not somebody who gets offended very easily, but there are
Speaker 1: bits of it. I was like, this is off key
Speaker 1: about small people, dwarfism, race. I don't know, like I
Speaker 1: just was. I thought it sounded like Zinger and smart
Speaker 1: just was not landing, didn't. I didn't feel very nice
Speaker 1: watching it. I felt like a bad person watching its Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes complete sense to me. I remember when I
Speaker 1: watched the film. It does the thing that I'm going
Speaker 1: to say this and you're going to be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: what a great guy. But I read it is that
Speaker 1: where it lost me is there's a scene where he
Speaker 1: punches a woman in the face in the restaurant and
Speaker 1: it's meant to be funny, and I'm like, you've lost me.
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy this, ye, I now sort of don't like,
Speaker 1: don't like you, And it isn't like I'm being subversive.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's just kind of horrible. I remember being like, well,
Speaker 1: and also that thing of people laughing in the cinema,
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I don't like this. All the
Speaker 1: things that you were meant to be laughing at, you
Speaker 1: weren't going, Oh, isn't that ridiculous? Isn't that you were
Speaker 1: meant to like be cheering the person who's doing it
Speaker 1: or saying it on ye. That bit really that through
Speaker 1: me as well, because I sort of didn't remember it
Speaker 1: from the first time. And then the line about the
Speaker 1: bad black girl on a wing or something like that,
Speaker 1: it just was so needless. And I think Brian um
Speaker 1: as it's Brian Gleason, isn't it, Yeah, Brendan, there we go.
Speaker 1: Sorry Brian, Sorry Brian who doesn't exist, Brian better name.
Speaker 1: And then there was this there was a line where
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, my wife who's now dead, who we
Speaker 1: never see, is black. So and I was just like, okay,
Speaker 1: so everything right, you can say that black joke, but
Speaker 1: like he's had a dead black wife that we never meet,
Speaker 1: so it's okay. I was just like yeah, but I
Speaker 1: was really sad. I was really sad that. I just
Speaker 1: think that can't pass anymore. Really well, listen, let's give
Speaker 1: the film love for sending you into Veiling Interbrees itself.
Speaker 1: It inspired that, so it did a really amazing thing
Speaker 1: in your life. It's just a shame, and just it's
Speaker 1: a shame that he enjoys. It's a shame it was
Speaker 1: going to let yourself down with the old bunch in
Speaker 1: the face. But it's a shame. What is the film
Speaker 1: that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film
Speaker 1: itself is very good, but because of the experience you
Speaker 1: had around seeing the film that will always make it
Speaker 1: special to you. I was in ones Worth, Sinney World
Speaker 1: with my then boyfriend Andrew Blessing, and there wasn't very
Speaker 1: many of us in the screen, but there was a
Speaker 1: group of really fucking annoying kids just making noise and
Speaker 1: I was like, we're watching a psychological thriller right now.
Speaker 1: You're ruining it, pricks. I didn't say that. I was like,
Speaker 1: excuse me. The whole film literally beginning to end. Halfway
Speaker 1: towards the end of the film, they all get up
Speaker 1: and head downstairs out of the cinema, and this is
Speaker 1: where my psychic ability kicked in and I turned to
Speaker 1: my boyfriend Andrew and I was like, we need to
Speaker 1: get out, and he was like why. I was like,
Speaker 1: we need to leave. In that moment, the kids come
Speaker 1: back with a bigger kid holding a knife. What yep?
Speaker 1: So I grab my man because that's what I'm about.
Speaker 1: I grab my man, put him out. We'd run all
Speaker 1: the way around down the stairs, out of the fire
Speaker 1: escape onto the street. Now, it may not have been
Speaker 1: a knife, and looking like I don't think it was
Speaker 1: a knife. Was it a sprite? Was it a can
Speaker 1: of sprite? It was long and the life of the
Speaker 1: cinema screen. I don't know, but looking back, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was a life. But in that moment, literally
Speaker 1: it was like you know the TV shows that so raven,
Speaker 1: which goes did you like that? I had a moment
Speaker 1: and I was like, come with me, my son, boyfriend
Speaker 1: and just fucking left it out there. I was, oh God,
Speaker 1: and I'm even I'm like shaking thinking about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's possibly a really scary story or it's not to
Speaker 1: say memorable, memorable for all of us. So in your head,
Speaker 1: they've gone, you told them to shut up, they've gone
Speaker 1: to get a bigger kid to come and kill you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what might have happened is they went and got a
Speaker 1: sprite and came back to sit down. So they weren't
Speaker 1: like heading towards you with this. What could have been
Speaker 1: in that they're just walking in with people. I moved
Speaker 1: so fast I didn't see what direction they came. Well,
Speaker 1: I saw was them walk in like that? I saw
Speaker 1: a pointy thing, and I was like, let's go. I've gone.
Speaker 1: What happened to Andrew? We're not together any before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't like two thousand and fine with Andrew, Like
Speaker 1: we haven't finished a film since we've been together. Yes,
Speaker 1: so you don't even know what happens at the end
Speaker 1: of that Swine. Oh no, I don't know. I've watched
Speaker 1: it since. Okay, let something happened something. Yeah, that's great,
Speaker 1: that's great, amazing. What is the film that you most
Speaker 1: relate to the film that I most relate to is
Speaker 1: Muriel's wedding? Speak to me? Are you relating to muriel
Speaker 1: Horrible Friends and Family? Yeah? So I love Abba. I
Speaker 1: love Abbas so much. I love Abbas so much that
Speaker 1: I went on a pilgrimage to Stockholm to go to
Speaker 1: the Abba Museum. I did that and it's one of
Speaker 1: the happiest places I've ever been. Literally, there was like
Speaker 1: a segment that was like and you've got your headphones
Speaker 1: and it was like, this is how we wrote Dancing Queen.
Speaker 1: I was like teary because you know, Dancing Queen is
Speaker 1: about death. I did not know that. Please explain it is.
Speaker 1: There's a whole article about it in The Guardian, so
Speaker 1: it's real and it's about When you listen to it,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, parte party song. It's actually about
Speaker 1: reflecting and looking at your younger self dancing as you're
Speaker 1: about to die. It's a reflective song on youth and
Speaker 1: vigor and beauty in yourself that you didn't feel at
Speaker 1: the time, but you're looking at it from afar. When
Speaker 1: you listen to Dancing Queen with that hat on changes
Speaker 1: it deep deep. It's deep. So Abba and I've always
Speaker 1: found Abba like, I know, the sort of poppy and stuff,
Speaker 1: but there's just something about like the chords in their
Speaker 1: music that's quite sad. As a kid, I always found
Speaker 1: it about quite moving. So when I watched Muriel's wedding,
Speaker 1: which is comedy but there's so many aspects of her
Speaker 1: life that's just so pathetic, and her being obsessed from abber.
Speaker 1: I was like, that fits, and then I thought, that's me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get married. That's not what it is.
Speaker 1: I couldn't give a fuck about get married. But I
Speaker 1: just that ruins my next question. Yeah, but like, there's
Speaker 1: just something about finding solace in music and being a
Speaker 1: bit of a loner that I really related to. Then
Speaker 1: she moves to Sydney and then like gets me, and
Speaker 1: then I was like, you lost me, you lost my bibe.
Speaker 1: But I really love a loser Carrot. I fucking love losers. Weirdos.
Speaker 1: Oh they're just so sweet and weird. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: that in your head. If Disneyland didn't have the copyright
Speaker 1: on the Happiest Place on the Abba, Museum would take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Do you know what? This is awful?
Speaker 1: And I've got footage of this. Yeah. So you can
Speaker 1: go on a stage and you can pick I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's three one or three app songs.
Speaker 1: I picked Mamma Mia and you can sing a little
Speaker 1: bit and they add a hologram of app would you
Speaker 1: that's cool? And I've got a video of me singing
Speaker 1: Mama Mia with the fucking band. Please can we give
Speaker 1: that to the Patreons or something? I have got it
Speaker 1: if you want it, give me a couple of days
Speaker 1: to think about it, Okay, but I might, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: might will put it in the members clubs members only.
Speaker 1: What a tree. It's embarrassing, but I might do it
Speaker 1: because I like if the joke's on me, I'm good
Speaker 1: with that. I love that. I'd love to see it. It
Speaker 1: It also sounds really cool. You with a holy it
Speaker 1: was amazing. It was so lifelike. Yeah, what's the sexiest
Speaker 1: film you ever seen? This was quite hard, was it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's quite hard to narrow it down? Or yeah, because
Speaker 1: I find all sorts of things sexy, funny people, a
Speaker 1: nice curl of the hair, turn of phrase, and then
Speaker 1: like kits or like a Willie, I'm like, let to
Speaker 1: narrow doown. I've really found Ghostbusters sexy because of Bill Murray. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I was really young when I watched Ghostbusters, so
Speaker 1: I didn't really understand what was going on, but I
Speaker 1: just knew that I wanted to rub rub something I
Speaker 1: don't know right, right, So there's Ghostbusters. But then yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to so that was it was a kid.
Speaker 1: But then I went to the cinema and I did
Speaker 1: watch Blue Is the Warmest Color. Did yes with a
Speaker 1: mate of mine, a lady a lid and the sexy,
Speaker 1: the very long, sexy minute sex scene with no kind
Speaker 1: of like music. It's just them breathing and panting and
Speaker 1: the sexes. It's whack. If you've had if you're a
Speaker 1: woman who's had sex with a woman, we know that
Speaker 1: that's not really what happens. Nonetheless, it's two naked women
Speaker 1: really going for it. And I just remember my knee
Speaker 1: being so close to my mate Carla, so close, and
Speaker 1: that just happening. And just you know the fact you
Speaker 1: can see that the flashes flash on last faces in
Speaker 1: this very like empty cursin and yeah, I mean his
Speaker 1: way I'm being a pausy is because I've seen that
Speaker 1: film and I love that film. I love that film.
Speaker 1: But the film is troubled in a way that makes
Speaker 1: me sad. Oh, and I also don't know what I
Speaker 1: meant to think about it, because you're right, it's very
Speaker 1: very fit film. It's because it's because they're beautiful. They're beautiful, beautiful,
Speaker 1: but lovely socially, you know, accepted and celebrated bodies, all
Speaker 1: of that sort of thing. These are all things that
Speaker 1: I had issues with when I left. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: why do why are all the lesbians like, you know,
Speaker 1: really slim? Why they're all like fucking models? Also, that's
Speaker 1: not That's not what happens all of that. That's not
Speaker 1: what's that? What's that? Like? What are they doing? He
Speaker 1: doesn't know? Then you have a little Google and you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: he really didn't because that seems like torture when they
Speaker 1: were filming it. Yeah, because it took how many days
Speaker 1: it didn't is I'm half joking, but it is about
Speaker 1: forty five. Yeah, you just think a while. Yeah, it's awful,
Speaker 1: Like it was awful. The ethics behind is like fucked up.
Speaker 1: However that was my react cracking result. What what is
Speaker 1: I mean? And also it's really difficult that film because
Speaker 1: I'm really sad when you read like that they run
Speaker 1: comfortable and because they're so natural in it, both of them,
Speaker 1: it's like unbelievable performances where you and I wonder if
Speaker 1: that's the sort of sad part of it is that
Speaker 1: to get those performances he was intrusive or whatever it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they feel so real and yeah, but I
Speaker 1: just I always feel with that you get performers and
Speaker 1: performances which don't require that. Like I think, you know,
Speaker 1: she's everybody's favorite, but Olivia Coleman can really fucking go there,
Speaker 1: but she does not bring shit to it, Like do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? She can just do it
Speaker 1: and then go home, and I don't you don't have
Speaker 1: the traumatizer to get the performance out of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've met actors who are like, you know, I've got
Speaker 1: to be I'm acting troubled all the time so that
Speaker 1: when I play a troubled person it's all cushty. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that is no imagination. And so I think that any
Speaker 1: director that feels that they have to impose that doesn't
Speaker 1: trust their actors and has no imagination. Yeah. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a subcategory to this question which I could also fit him.
Speaker 1: But luckily, I hope you've got another one traveling bonus
Speaker 1: worrying why dones? What film did you find a rousing
Speaker 1: but you thought perhaps you shouldn't other them? Blue is
Speaker 1: the world's color? Showgirls? What is remotely troubling about Showgirls terrible. Sure,
Speaker 1: it's so bad, like you should not be getting any
Speaker 1: kind of joy, even if it's a wide on from
Speaker 1: that fucking film, because it's so terrible. And yet I
Speaker 1: was having the that's sex scene in the swimming pool,
Speaker 1: which is terrible, it defies logic, And then there I
Speaker 1: was watching it having a jolly good time in depense.
Speaker 1: Me too, and I don't mind. Listen. When I first
Speaker 1: saw Show Guys, which was when it first came out,
Speaker 1: and I was very young, I remember reading all these things,
Speaker 1: going this ridiculous sex here in the swimming pool, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking, fucking worked for me. I just remember thinking,
Speaker 1: what's what's so ridiculous about it? It's brilliant. What's happening?
Speaker 1: What am I not getting? Do you know what? I
Speaker 1: was very young when I watched it. I think it
Speaker 1: was on Channel five and I just sort of put
Speaker 1: it on and I was like, oh my god. When
Speaker 1: I watched that scene, I thought that's what sex is like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I started to worry because I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know whether my back this is me as a child.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean about capricorns, Like we're old as
Speaker 1: children are I don't know whether my back can flip
Speaker 1: that far. And I just thought he was just holding
Speaker 1: I mean he was because they weren't actually having sex.
Speaker 1: But I didn't get she was so high up, like
Speaker 1: if she was really there, like if he was really inside, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she'd be much lower. Now you say that, I go, okay,
Speaker 1: that part unless he's got a very big dick and
Speaker 1: she's just curb that can do that. But I will
Speaker 1: say this now I'm much children growing up. That is
Speaker 1: how sex work. Is it? Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you read like we're worried about it. That's certainly in
Speaker 1: my experience, exactly how it is. What is what is
Speaker 1: objectively the greatest film of all time, all about as
Speaker 1: completely just ah, the original Original, the original Original. The
Speaker 1: thing I love about it is block So when I
Speaker 1: first started writing, one of the things, I mean, I
Speaker 1: was given such I was given so much advice from people.
Speaker 1: Here's a little little nugget of advice all the time,
Speaker 1: and I take it because I like advice. But the
Speaker 1: thing that I would I was always told was don't
Speaker 1: write about show business like people don't like watching it.
Speaker 1: People like right, And when I watched All That Eve
Speaker 1: for the first time, which is before I got that nugget,
Speaker 1: Because when I got that nugget, I was like, I
Speaker 1: think All About Eve is a masterpiece. It is the
Speaker 1: way it talks about the industry and acting and all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. It makes you invested, you care. The
Speaker 1: performances are off their time, but they're raisor sharp, and
Speaker 1: the scenes just what I loved about it was the
Speaker 1: scenes they didn't worry about, sort of just letting the
Speaker 1: scene play. You can tell it's based on the play,
Speaker 1: but they don't care about that. It's just two actors.
Speaker 1: That's it. Nice set, nice costumes, two actors going for
Speaker 1: each other, Betty Davis, Marilyn Monroe, one of her early
Speaker 1: fucking parts in their being exquisite comedic timing like it's
Speaker 1: so good and am Baxter I think it is who
Speaker 1: plays Eve just like the best maliplative narcissist you've ever
Speaker 1: seen in the best costumes. I'm sure this has come
Speaker 1: up before, but it is worth saying. Given what just
Speaker 1: happened show Girls is a remake of All About Eve,
Speaker 1: that would make sense. It's straight up, it's the same story.
Speaker 1: It's just done better, just tell better and burlesque. Yeah, burlesque.
Speaker 1: Is it's the it's the small town girl who wants
Speaker 1: to be the front of the chorus line. There's always
Speaker 1: like some older woman although share doesn't really mind, but
Speaker 1: there's another one in it who's like, don't this is
Speaker 1: my patch? Yeah, it's great. It's a great Hollywood trope.
Speaker 1: That's a lovely art. Today is what's the film you
Speaker 1: could or have? What's the most over and over again,
Speaker 1: Mary Poppins, I know, I know, I know what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's an absolute masterpiece and I'm going
Speaker 1: to have a zero problem with that Beider answer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just love it. I'm just loads of people must
Speaker 1: say it, but it just is actually okay, well, Mary Poppins.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I really love about it
Speaker 1: is it's so it makes me as a Londoner really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I live in London of born in London,
Speaker 1: but there's just something about watching it that makes me
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I'm a fund that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like where every time I was just at Saint Paul's,
Speaker 1: I don't go past Saint Paul's without thinking of feed
Speaker 1: the birds, like never, And there's just something about it
Speaker 1: being so loved but also in this filmed in the
Speaker 1: studio that just I really really really love and I
Speaker 1: think Julie Andrews if you watch that back, her performance
Speaker 1: is king brilliant. She's you know, Mary Poppies is a bitch. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's evil. Like the kids are like, hey, Mary Poppies,
Speaker 1: we just went into the pain. She's like, no, didn't.
Speaker 1: That's called gaslighting. Like the fuck. When you're watching now,
Speaker 1: I'm like that is She's just oh, let's go and
Speaker 1: do this. Kids. We have such a lovely time with you.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, no you didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. There's your dad,
Speaker 1: goodbye off. Yeah, never apologized, never explained, that is messed up.
Speaker 1: That's a bad motto, motegized, never explained, that's toxic masculinity.
Speaker 1: It's so it's mad. But I feel for those kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they go through such psychological warfare, just you know, Dad's
Speaker 1: not interested. Mum is like, you know, up the women. Fine,
Speaker 1: do you get this woman who's like, oh, here's a
Speaker 1: nice bit of blood and now it didn't happen. Oh
Speaker 1: here's a nice song. Really didn't happen. So yeah, scary
Speaker 1: Mary Poppins. We don't like to be negative, so we'll
Speaker 1: be quick with this. Okay, what's the worst film you
Speaker 1: ever saw? A film? I mean there's a few. It's
Speaker 1: a film called Feed Feed, Yes, twenty eleven, and it
Speaker 1: is for me and my mates for a short time.
Speaker 1: We're obsessed with sploshing. Do you know what sploshing is?
Speaker 1: Go on, explain it to the too? Is it? Is it? Okay?
Speaker 1: Can I? Is it stepping on hamsters? Or that mean?
Speaker 1: Is it? You get one more guess? Is it sliming
Speaker 1: people like in Nickelodeon host but a sexy way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like food sex. It's like, oh okay, cake put
Speaker 1: it up the gier that you eat it out. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that didn't mean to say that. That That was very graphic.
Speaker 1: So we were obsessed with sploshing. My group of friends
Speaker 1: we all had breakups. It was twenty eleven. We were
Speaker 1: all going through stuff and we sort of came together
Speaker 1: and were like, sploshing's funny, and so we wanted to
Speaker 1: find a film that was to do with sploshing. And
Speaker 1: so my friend Zach, he was like, Hey, I've just
Speaker 1: found this film on iTunes. It's called Feed. It must
Speaker 1: be to do with sploshing. And so we had a
Speaker 1: film that we watched it as about the Sky with
Speaker 1: cop who is investigating this internet subculture of feeding women
Speaker 1: until they die. And it was just it was just
Speaker 1: about this man who was like running around feeding this
Speaker 1: woman with as much food. It was fucking terrible, Like
Speaker 1: not even we thought, oh, it will be funny, and
Speaker 1: we would just watch it like that's horrible. Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 1: I'm mainly worried about how much cake is going to
Speaker 1: be left in the in the vagina, because I think
Speaker 1: if you put a cake in, it's going to you know,
Speaker 1: it's going to crumble into bits. I just I'm sortainly
Speaker 1: worried about the health implications of a cake bits of
Speaker 1: cake not getting out. It will fuck up your pH balance.
Speaker 1: But then you just you have to weigh up whether
Speaker 1: it's worth it, think about it. It's going to dissolve.
Speaker 1: I suppose eventually it will dissolve eventually. That's why you
Speaker 1: need somebody who's really committed and getting all the cake
Speaker 1: out right, because you could be there a while. I
Speaker 1: would think you could use utensils and getting like a
Speaker 1: whisk to sort of break it up. That doesn't feel
Speaker 1: that feels. I worry about a whisk I don't know,
Speaker 1: a plastic spoon. Then that will break off and whisk
Speaker 1: as like the you know, I think you could if
Speaker 1: you use it with care. Okay. And also the cake
Speaker 1: is going to be it's going to be like moisture. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's gonna yeah. If it's a well made cake, it's
Speaker 1: definitely there's a world made cake. It's gonna be yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1: I guess you just got to make sure you've you've
Speaker 1: dealt with it when after afterwards, and you know, you
Speaker 1: don't have to put it was just an example. You
Speaker 1: can put jelly on the arm. No, listen, I've got
Speaker 1: my evening planned out now. I just need to make sure, sorry,
Speaker 1: do it right and don't cause it any injury. I
Speaker 1: don't have to put cake up. The food is fine.
Speaker 1: You don't have to, but it will be encouraged. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be a shameless What is You're in comedy?
Speaker 1: You're very funny. What's the funniest film? What's the film
Speaker 1: that made you laughter most? Okay? I cannot possibly tell
Speaker 1: you the film that made me laugh the most, but
Speaker 1: I can tell you the scene that got me picked
Speaker 1: out of odeon Tottenhacourt Road because I laughed so hard.
Speaker 1: Do you know? I know it's a great film, but
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think, where's that bit? What's that funny? So's
Speaker 1: this bit when he oh, Ellen Page, thanks mate. She's
Speaker 1: in the corridor of a school and she's talking to
Speaker 1: Michael Sarah and she says something about a girl in
Speaker 1: a class who just who gave her the stinki. She
Speaker 1: just goes and so gave me the stinkai And it's
Speaker 1: the quickest cup to this actress who I don't know
Speaker 1: who's giving Juno a stinki? And me and my mate
Speaker 1: of Arno looked at each other and that was it gone.
Speaker 1: That It's just an example of how you can be.
Speaker 1: You're not even a star in it. You've got no line.
Speaker 1: You just give it that. We we lost it. The
Speaker 1: next couple of things who were still laughing. Usher came in,
Speaker 1: was like you have to leave. We went out onto
Speaker 1: the road. We were screaming, screaming like we can't talk
Speaker 1: about it. To this day we can't talk about it.
Speaker 1: We can't talk son. I like that that is a
Speaker 1: proper answer. Yeah, that's the answer. I've been looking for good, Susie,
Speaker 1: we camer You've been absolutely wonderful. Now when you went
Speaker 1: to Latitude last year and you had glitter all over
Speaker 1: your face and you went to watch Texas on stage
Speaker 1: when you were lost in the in the wonder of
Speaker 1: Charlie's Pitteri's voice as she sang, oh, what's the song
Speaker 1: that Texas did? It was the one that the one
Speaker 1: that I was really like. It was yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: made me feel wild. Yeah yeah. You touch Matt in
Speaker 1: us smart air, your gap me in the mood. Oh,
Speaker 1: oh my neck. You move. So whilst you were thinking,
Speaker 1: come and make your move, you were does You were lost, transcendent.
Speaker 1: It was to you, and you were sweating with the joy,
Speaker 1: and the glitter came into your mouth, sweated off your
Speaker 1: face into your mouth, and you said, ah, something tastes
Speaker 1: like chalk delicious, and you you finished your evening a
Speaker 1: great old night. And then you went back to your
Speaker 1: tent and you lay there and in your sleep the
Speaker 1: glitter congealed in your throat yeah, and shout you to death.
Speaker 1: It was sad, but the saddest part wasn't No one
Speaker 1: found you. No one thought anything of it. For quite
Speaker 1: a while. It was just a tent, just a tent.
Speaker 1: You closed the thing. Everyone's like, well, it's probably sleeping.
Speaker 1: About three months later, I was like, dude, sees you
Speaker 1: ever come back from latitude? Is weird that no one
Speaker 1: heard from everywhere? So I drive all the way back
Speaker 1: up to latitude. There's a tent on it's only the
Speaker 1: field is weird. It's a fucking state. I go in
Speaker 1: the tent. You're there, you can deal with them. The
Speaker 1: ground has has swallowed half of you. There's a bird
Speaker 1: has pecked open your insides and built a nest. It's
Speaker 1: all sorts. It's sweet, but difficult to contend with. So
Speaker 1: then I have to sit vigil let the birds all leave.
Speaker 1: And then finally and then the hamster walked parts and
Speaker 1: I just stood on it just for a bit of
Speaker 1: a splash. And then then you basically, there's too much
Speaker 1: of you. There was more than I expected, because you've
Speaker 1: become the so I've had to get anyway, long story short,
Speaker 1: I've had to chop you up into lots of little
Speaker 1: bit because I brought a coffin that was the size
Speaker 1: of you. I wouldn't expect to all this stuff, all
Speaker 1: of it stuff, all of you in this coffin. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely rammed in there, but there's just enough room that
Speaker 1: I could slip one DVD in the side with you.
Speaker 1: You can take to the other side. And on the
Speaker 1: other side it's movie night every night and one night
Speaker 1: it's your movie night. What film are you taking to
Speaker 1: show everyone in heaven? Oh, I'm taking Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Speaker 1: The people in heaven will love you, no wonder. Your
Speaker 1: vibration is so high, Susie. Susanne wa Cooma, is there
Speaker 1: anything you would like to tell people to look out
Speaker 1: forward to listen to, what to watch, what to read,
Speaker 1: or anything of yours coming up? Before we say goodbye
Speaker 1: for sag Bath, I'm in a film called Nola Holmes,
Speaker 1: which is on Netflix. I hear very good things about that,
Speaker 1: So she's in that. And then I'm in another show
Speaker 1: called truth Seekers Amazon on the thirtieth of October. That's
Speaker 1: a series. It looks brilliant. Jim Smith. Yeah, those two,
Speaker 1: and then there's loads of stuff that's still on Netflix,
Speaker 1: because that's the way in. It's just do you google
Speaker 1: one if you put my name in Netflix? You like that.
Speaker 1: Susie mccamer, You've been an absolute dream and Delight. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Thanks, have a wonderful death. Good Night,
Speaker 1: good night. So that was a reworded classic. I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed it as much as we did. Everything you
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Speaker 1: Forward Slashbrey Goldstein. Remember to watch Shrinking and then Ted
Speaker 1: Lasso on Apple TV plus. I will speak to you
Speaker 1: all next week. Thank you very much for listening. Thank
Speaker 1: you to Buddy Peace for producing it, Thanks to ACAS
Speaker 1: for hosting it, Thanks to Destruction Pieces of Network, Thanks
Speaker 1: to Leasing lay Them for the photography, Adam Richardson for
Speaker 1: the graphics. So that is it for now. I hope
Speaker 1: you're all well and in the meantime, have a lovely week,
Speaker 1: and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each other.