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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobalt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: John Cobolt Show. Neil Savadra here, John is out today.

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Speaker 3: So much going on in city, in the city there

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Speaker 3: at City Hall, and none of it seems very good.

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Speaker 3: I have Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez from the seventh District with us.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Monica, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I am well, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems a bit like a well. I can't

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Speaker 3: say the first word, but the second word is show.

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Speaker 2: So yeah.

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Speaker 3: I had a distinct memory, and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it was back last year or before, of you coming

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Speaker 3: out to not a whole lot of fanfare saying something

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Speaker 3: doesn't smell right with the money that's going to the homeless,

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Speaker 3: and you were having problems tracking down it's whereabouts or accounting?

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 4: That is correct? It's why About a year, a little

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Speaker 4: over a year ago, I introduced the first motion on

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Speaker 4: the city Council to create a department on homelessness, and

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Speaker 4: it's been a year. I'm hopeful that the report will

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Speaker 4: be released soon, but it actually long preceded even the

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Speaker 4: county making the move, but it just you know, there

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Speaker 4: hasn't been a lot of data coming with the amount

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Speaker 4: of money that has been spent, and now we have

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Speaker 4: two audits that reflected that, and that has been a

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Speaker 4: big problem. I've searched on the Committee on Homelessness for

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Speaker 4: several years and have watched multiple changes in leadership at

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Speaker 4: the top of LASA, and I saw some incremental improvements

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Speaker 4: around the last couple of leadership changes, but this recently

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Speaker 4: it's only gotten worse. We've gotten less outcomes associated with

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Speaker 4: the money that is being put forward by IT, and

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Speaker 4: there's been sadly a lot of co mingling of resources,

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Speaker 4: both by the operations that are being led out of

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Speaker 4: the Mayor's office along with what's been spent by LASSA.

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Speaker 1: How did how does this happen? Well? How? Hey?

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Speaker 3: Where would it normally? Where would the checks and balances be?

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Speaker 3: Would it a treasury treasurer who is supposed to be

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Speaker 3: Is there a book somewhere, a digital book that's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: pull up those numbers right now?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: So so LASA, just so, because I know a lot

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Speaker 4: of folks don't really understand. LASA essentially was the regional clearinghouse.

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Speaker 4: If you will of where to place people in the housing.

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Speaker 4: After Measure H and UH it was passed, which was

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Speaker 4: a county measure, they got a ton of money to

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Speaker 4: start expanding all the outreach efforts that would have been

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Speaker 4: related to the county. In fact, one of the initial

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Speaker 4: audits reflected how they a lot of the service providers

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Speaker 4: took advances from that money without any contracts or any

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Speaker 4: stated goals associated with that work, and that was LASA

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Speaker 4: actively doing that. I will also note that the current

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Speaker 4: CEO of LASA right now was also leading one of

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Speaker 4: the agencies that received two million dollars of that front

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Speaker 4: of deflection around that in terms of what people knew

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Speaker 4: or didn't know. She was leading one of the nonprofit

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Speaker 4: organizations that received money and never paid it back and

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Speaker 4: received it without any contracts. Now, the City of Los

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Speaker 4: Angeles also manages its own series of outreach contracts and services,

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Speaker 4: and in addition to that, has provided money to LASA. Now,

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Speaker 4: when we would ask LASA or the service providers show

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Speaker 4: me your work, they would hide behind HIPPA rules. They

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Speaker 4: service providers are holding down multiple contracts from multiple sources,

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Speaker 4: so there's a whole lot of gaming going on. That's

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Speaker 4: been a really big problem and I've been calling it

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Speaker 4: I also then when my motion on Department on Homelessness

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Speaker 4: motion to say, okay, forget LASA. We're bringing all of

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Speaker 4: this in house and we're going to manage our own

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Speaker 4: contracts because as a manager of the contracts on our behalf,

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Speaker 4: they're not giving us the data. So I said, let's

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Speaker 4: take our money out. I'm tired of this now. That

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Speaker 4: doesn't stop what the Mayor has been doing, which is

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Speaker 4: also leveraging LASA for her inside safe initiatives. So basically

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Speaker 4: what I'm telling you is who's in charge LASA. Too

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Speaker 4: many people are in charge, which sadly means no one's

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Speaker 4: when they see the failures to perform, no one is

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Speaker 4: willing to cut bait. In fact, what I've seen is

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Speaker 4: LASSA and becoming an apologist for the failures rather than

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Reacting to things is a powerful statement of who you are,

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Speaker 3: or in this case, the powers that be at city Hall.

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Speaker 3: I eat a mayor, and to brush this under or

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Speaker 3: to find a way to defend it to me as unconsortable.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious, and we're going to go up against a

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Speaker 3: break here in a second. I'm going to ask you

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Speaker 3: to stick around for one more segment if you can,

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Speaker 3: but we come back. I want to know what you

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Speaker 3: were met with a year or so ago when you

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Speaker 3: remember that it didn't seem that way. So when we

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Speaker 3: come back, I'd like to hear how you were met

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Speaker 3: in city Hall when you said, hey, something doesn't smell

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Speaker 3: right with where the money going for the homeless here

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Speaker 3: in Los Angeles. My guest right now is council Member

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Speaker 3: Monica Rodriguez seventh District. We'll be back with more, so

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Speaker 3: go no where. Neil Savedra happy to be here. John

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Speaker 3: Cobelt is out.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from kf I

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Speaker 3: Hey everybody, John Cobelt Show, Neil savedra in happy to

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Speaker 3: be with you today, and then you've got Tim Conway

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Speaker 3: Junior coming up at four and then mister mo Kelly

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Speaker 3: at seven. All right, my guest right now is council

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Speaker 3: Member Monica Rodriguez from the seventh District. Gosh, year and

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Speaker 3: change ago, she came out pointing fingers at the lack

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Speaker 3: of accountability for the monies that we're going towards.

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Speaker 1: Homeless issue.

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Speaker 3: I don't even want to call an issue, it's it's

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Speaker 3: really a fiasco at this point. We've got this, in

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Speaker 3: my words, not putting this in anybody else's mouth, but

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Speaker 3: feral humans or people who need, you know, much help

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Speaker 3: in circumstance that money. Just throwing money at it, and

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Speaker 3: certainly throwing money in different directions is going to help

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Speaker 3: it out. But Councilwoman Rodriguez, when you came out and said, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know there's these issues going on, do you get

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Speaker 3: because you know they're mostly Democrats and stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: that you said that, or were you ostracized at all?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm definitely. I don't get celebrated for saying the

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Speaker 4: that we have accountability in this. I started an RV

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Speaker 4: we removed two We were disposed of one hundred and

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Speaker 4: eight RVs and housed two hundred and eight individuals that

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Speaker 4: we're living in those RVs, just in my district alone.

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Speaker 4: And I had colleagues who attempted to replicate it. Some

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Speaker 4: one individual, for example, who's no longer on the council,

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Speaker 4: he attempted to transfer two million dollars to the agency

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Speaker 4: that was previously led by miss Adams, the Felicia ad

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Speaker 4: for two million dollars without specifics. So I stopped that

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Speaker 4: money from getting transferred back in twenty twenty gosh, I

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Speaker 4: think it was twenty two. And that is an example

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Speaker 4: of you know, everyone just thinks that, oh, okay, well

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Speaker 4: we can just copy it, or we can do these

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Speaker 4: things you know, you have to work with very clear

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Speaker 4: you have accountability. And it's amazing to me how many

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Speaker 4: times people have just attempted to send out millions of

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Speaker 4: how to actually do it on the street. And so, yes,

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Speaker 4: I don't get celebrated for seeing those things out loud,

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Speaker 4: because there's definitely an environment where a lot of people

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Speaker 4: that are happening. You've seen exorbitant salaries that are getting

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Speaker 4: zero tolerance for that. So I have been calling it

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Speaker 4: rewarded for doing so.

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Speaker 1: That's a very nice way of saying it.

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Speaker 3: People think you're mouthybroad my guess.

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Speaker 1: My words, not yourself.

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Speaker 3: Council Member Monica Rodriguez with me from the seventh district.

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Speaker 3: You had mentioned that cities that you thought were doing

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Speaker 4: So what LA and Long Beach have a lot of

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Speaker 4: They're also able to legally, in some cases in force

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Speaker 4: not done that. In fact, you saw a lot of

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Speaker 4: did not want to quote unquote criminalize or lead with

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Speaker 4: to roll out the red carpet for new repopulations. So

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Speaker 4: I want to be able to reasonably enforce any prohibitions

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Speaker 4: to see I just introduced this motion on Wednesday. It's

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Speaker 4: Ramon's committee, because, for example, just as I had introduced

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Speaker 4: that motion about separating using LASA to provide the contracts

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Speaker 4: lot of slow walking, and you'll notice that a lot

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Speaker 4: this broken system or suggesting that there's progress, which audits

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Speaker 4: have reflected there's no progress. We're not seeing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're seeing seeing a breakdown.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we're seeing the breakdown or today with the fire

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Speaker 3: stuff as well, that they're you know, correct systems are

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Speaker 3: not you know, I was told a long time ago

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Speaker 3: you can put a label on a can, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean anything's in the can. And oftentimes we have these

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Speaker 3: and groups and organizations and they're not doing dick.

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Speaker 1: So my words, not yours. Sorry, So yeah, it just

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Speaker 1: seems that way.

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Speaker 3: We have just a couple of minutes, and I know

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Speaker 3: this is a huge question to ask in a couple

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Speaker 3: only hope if you were mayor.

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Speaker 1: What are what what are a couple?

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Speaker 3: What are three things that you think are most important

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Speaker 4: Well, this idea that everything is about building permanent support

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Speaker 3: Well said, I will tell you what my wife and

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's like, sir, I don't like your tone. I don't

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your time, of course. That is council Woman

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Speaker 4: Thank you, true take care.

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Speaker 1: All righty, We'll be back with more. So go nowhere.

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Speaker 3: Neil Svader here, John Cobalt is out. You've got Tim

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Speaker 3: More issues coming out of city Hall, I said earlier.

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Speaker 1: I have called it like I see it.

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Speaker 3: There were times where I praised her for some of

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Speaker 3: But I'm the type of person that I don't ever

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Speaker 3: Whoever ends up being in that seat of power, I

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Speaker 3: Sometimes that's a Democrat, sometimes that's a Republican. I do

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Speaker 3: when you have a two party system, we get broken

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Speaker 3: is bad thinking. So now we're looking at you know,

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Speaker 3: And then that's gonna, you know, piss off one side.

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Speaker 3: So anyways, all this to say that we continue to

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Speaker 1: Leaving?

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Speaker 3: I mean, this was this was the signal, This was

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Speaker 3: someone that was trusted, someone that has been seen around town,

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Speaker 1: Look, hey, that's a good choice.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was garbage about being paid half a

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Speaker 3: He came out and said they haven't asked him to

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Speaker 3: do anything in a month and a half. Nothing, And

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Speaker 3: even you know, before that, there was exclusion from inner

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Speaker 3: It says more about who Bass is as a leader

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Speaker 3: what money was used for her to go to Donna

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Speaker 1: And we continue to make.

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Speaker 3: The same mistakes over and over again, and then wonder

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Speaker 3: Neil Savedra, John's out.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty.

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Speaker 3: Neil Savandra here, John cobelt is out. You've got Tim

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Speaker 1: Check that out.

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Speaker 3: You can see him because he's one of the very

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Speaker 1: I am gonna put John on there. No, no, not,

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Speaker 1: I'm offended. Yeah, bra No, I was. I was taught.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see all that.

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Speaker 4: I think people want to see all of us.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean naked? Oh I'm sure that's not

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Speaker 1: I don't want any part of this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, your big babies on a Friday, like

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Speaker 3: cru exactly what are you saying?

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Speaker 1: I'm boring?

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Speaker 3: Oh see, I can play that game too, little damsel

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Speaker 3: and distress over here.

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Speaker 1: Oh what, I'm not fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm not heaving enough.

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Speaker 1: I'm borrying.

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Speaker 3: I don't have John Cobalt money. I have to watch,

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Speaker 4: Not many of us. Do you know?

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Speaker 3: He'd have a helicopter pick him up. He'd be straight

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Speaker 3: I wanted to say, Mohammed Amud Khalil can be deported,

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Speaker 1: But you know, going through this, and I have.

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Speaker 3: Does it mean that I have some affinity for the

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Speaker 1: And that means our rules.

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Speaker 1: And these have absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 3: However they people come out and say women should always

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Speaker 3: pardon me, goes hell yeah, you know, there there's a

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Speaker 3: People coming here to the United States and this is

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Speaker 3: this is beyond, this is beyond. Well, you know, women

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Speaker 3: Hell no, I you know, I think net Yahoo's nuts. However,

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Speaker 3: if somebody is coming here, gets a green Guard and

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Speaker 1: So people jump on a bandwagon and.

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Speaker 3: Say, if you want to stop immigration or you want

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Speaker 1: But then you look at this and you.

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Speaker 3: Say maybe, because when you do things the wrong way,

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Speaker 3: Put that aside for a second. Just looking at this logically,

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Speaker 3: unintended consequences. So someone comes here, gets a green card,

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Speaker 3: leeway you can have that taken away. And so your actions,

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Speaker 3: if you take the action knowing, hey, I might be

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Speaker 1: Card here, And that's okay.

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Speaker 3: But in this particular case, we'll have to see if

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Speaker 3: it goes. But we are now in new waters. Why

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Speaker 3: because we've let it go on. It doesn't mean you

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Speaker 3: don't want I think we have to have legal immigration.

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Speaker 3: We have to We have to bring in new blood

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Speaker 3: that is excited to be here and not just sitting

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Speaker 3: that's imperative, and I think it's important to our growth

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Speaker 3: and who we are as a country. But man, you

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Speaker 3: come and you connect yourself with what is a known

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Speaker 3: is more important to me than my Green card, than

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Speaker 3: my wife, than my family here, and those consequences are

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Speaker 3: going to pay themselves off. Happy to be here, John

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