WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Summer Stress

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training

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<v Speaker 3>Camp in Oxnard.

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<v Speaker 2>Calif Straight shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten today, tuchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeoman's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black

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<v Speaker 2>Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>We are here nine am in the morning eleven am

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<v Speaker 2>Central time, but we are back on the tennis courts

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<v Speaker 2>in Oxnard, California's Cowboys training camp continues. We have two

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<v Speaker 2>padded practices down. We've got a couple more to go

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<v Speaker 2>before the Cowboys take on the Jaguars next Saturday in

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<v Speaker 2>preseason game number one. Alongside John Machoda, Nick Harris, Isaiah

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<v Speaker 2>stand Back, I'm Kyle Yeomans. Good news is we all

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<v Speaker 2>survived the media party last night and we're here. But

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<v Speaker 2>the even better news is that we are here and

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<v Speaker 2>we're able to talk some cowboys today. Nick, that was

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<v Speaker 2>your first experience? Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, pretty solid. Can't complain one bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Good food, good company, and of course a couple drinks

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<v Speaker 2>in there as well. We had a Miller Lite or

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<v Speaker 2>two while we were out there, so that was always

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. But black rifle RTD right now,

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<v Speaker 2>that was exactly that's why we're here.

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<v Speaker 5>Can we have that request? Can we request listen here

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<v Speaker 5>black rifle to need y'all to send us something very.

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<v Speaker 2>Long for the first Isaiah stand back sponsors ready to drink.

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<v Speaker 5>If y'all don't know what RTD is, that's ready to drink.

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<v Speaker 5>That means it comes in a can. They sent us

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<v Speaker 5>some last year. Kyle, I think it would be perfect

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<v Speaker 5>if we had a shipment sitting down here camp.

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<v Speaker 2>So every morning we can have our RTD black rifle. Cough,

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<v Speaker 2>what'd you think?

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<v Speaker 4>I agree?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree? This is a thing. John just get used

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<v Speaker 2>to it every once in a while. Stand Back, He

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<v Speaker 2>just looked into the one shot camera and he just

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<v Speaker 2>decides to make a pitch to one of those sponsors.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened with Esselore, It happened with all the different sponsors

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<v Speaker 2>along the way. I don't even know if I can

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<v Speaker 2>say their name yet, but anymore, but quicker oats, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>happen at some point, Like yeah, it's always a he's

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<v Speaker 2>a pro. He is a pro. He's a pros pro

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<v Speaker 2>all right. H Like I said, two padded practices down,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get first impressions on how they've looked,

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<v Speaker 2>how the team has looked through those two padded practices.

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<v Speaker 2>But first I want to do It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>news and notes for those that listened to the show

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<v Speaker 2>last year, I would give it to Patrick, and Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>will give news and notes. Before that, Rob was really

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<v Speaker 2>big on it. But I want to split it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I want everybody to give me one talking point. We

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<v Speaker 2>kind of did it on Monday, where it's one one

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<v Speaker 2>storyline that's really stuck out to you. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>call him talking points. I just have a better name

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<v Speaker 2>for it now since it is talking cowboys. But John,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you start it off. What's the number one

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<v Speaker 2>thing on your mind?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm not gonna say that this should be

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<v Speaker 6>everybody's number one thing, but for me personally, it's really

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<v Speaker 6>been the offensive line and developing anybody behind that starting five.

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<v Speaker 6>I know we talked about it the other day, but

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<v Speaker 6>especially with Zach Martin not being out here, that's my

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<v Speaker 6>one area of concern is the depth of that offensive line,

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<v Speaker 6>because I do believe that if they can develop some

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<v Speaker 6>depth there that it can it can just fill a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of holes, answer a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 7>Everything can click because of that.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know, kind of it's just tough out here

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<v Speaker 6>because they're going against a loaded defensive line, and so

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<v Speaker 6>it's you know, I want to come away from these

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<v Speaker 6>practices and share a bunch of stuff of like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>this guy did this, and the defensive line looks monstrous.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like you, I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Really looking forward to the preseason games to kind of gauge, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>where are these some of these guys like Farniac and

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<v Speaker 6>Josh Ball and and we'll let's go against some of

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<v Speaker 6>those guys. But that to me, like when I look

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<v Speaker 6>at the roster, I I'm always going back to the

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<v Speaker 6>offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Nick on that regard.

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<v Speaker 4>On the offensive line regard, Yeah, the depth worries me

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<v Speaker 4>for sure. You know, I don't feel too comfortable if

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<v Speaker 4>if Zach Martin is not on the field on Week one.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't feel comfortable if he is and then an

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<v Speaker 4>injury happens somewhere down the line. So, like we've talked about,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the only position group you could really

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<v Speaker 4>look at and be like, Okay, that's a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>a concern in the depth, Isaiah, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Gives me the bubble, guts Coyle, Yeah, it gives me

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<v Speaker 2>the bubbles. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>You ever had like something that just doesn't sit right?

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<v Speaker 5>They're not settled. I've got that feeling right now. You

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<v Speaker 5>got it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>If you gotta see Kyle, just lean up on one side,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll know what it takes place.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just it's unsettling right now. And I am

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<v Speaker 5>not only just because of Zach Martin's absence, but also

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<v Speaker 5>because of the aspect of they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Just moving a lot of guys around.

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<v Speaker 5>And we get it, you know, you gotta protect Tiring,

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<v Speaker 5>We get it, Te Stills coming off of injury. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>we get it. Martin's not here. But like we, as

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<v Speaker 5>you know analysts, we don't have anything to really rest

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<v Speaker 5>on right now. And that's why these preseason games are

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<v Speaker 5>going to be so influential and so it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so just prevalent because we need to know what our

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<v Speaker 5>what's their game plan, because right now it doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 5>as if there is one, even though we know there

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<v Speaker 5>is it's it's it's like it's like a crap game

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<v Speaker 5>right now, man, just d Dyson and you're kind of

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<v Speaker 5>seeing it with falls.

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<v Speaker 4>If you could point in any position group to be

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<v Speaker 4>the Krypsonite on this team, is there, it's a runaway favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt. In my mind, it would be offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it make you feel any better though? The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they are going up against the defensive line that

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<v Speaker 2>is so loaded, is so deep, and they have that

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<v Speaker 2>talent level to where and Mike McCarthy talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, where's it's almost an iron sharpens iron

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<v Speaker 2>mentality where the offensive line, like John said, it's no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt like they're struggling, but they're going up against one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best defensive fronts of football. Does that provide

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<v Speaker 2>at least a little bit of comfort in that situation?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no it does. They're gonna get great work.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's the other thing like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 6>might look at, is well, they need to go out

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<v Speaker 6>there and go add somebody, add one of these, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>a veteran free agent that you can maybe get on

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<v Speaker 6>the cheap to help out it guards. Yeah, that could

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<v Speaker 6>potentially happen, But It's kind of like the running back,

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<v Speaker 6>the backup running back spot.

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<v Speaker 7>They want to be able to see.

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<v Speaker 6>Mike McCarthy wants to be able to see, like, what

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<v Speaker 6>are these guys capable of?

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<v Speaker 7>This is the time when you can see it.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see if we can develop somebody right now, this

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<v Speaker 6>is the time to do it. So while we sit

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<v Speaker 6>here and have questions about it, it could be going

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<v Speaker 6>to That is the plan exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree whole hardly on that.

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<v Speaker 5>I do believe that they have a game plan, and

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<v Speaker 5>they have a backup to the backup, and they have

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<v Speaker 5>a backup to the backup to the backup. As we've

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<v Speaker 5>seen over the past years, they've always had a game

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<v Speaker 5>plan in that regard, and they are This is the

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<v Speaker 5>time where you find out what your guys can and

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<v Speaker 5>can't do. And I just can't wait for those preseason

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<v Speaker 5>games to show up because you know that Tyrann's your

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<v Speaker 5>left tackle right with If Tyron's not your left tackle,

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<v Speaker 5>who's your left tackle? Well, I'm bumping Tyler right well

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<v Speaker 5>behind Tyler, who is it? Well, that's what they're playing

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<v Speaker 5>around with right now. You know, if they find themselves

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<v Speaker 5>and that in that situation, they need to know what

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<v Speaker 5>their capabilities are, and I'm not sure that we feel

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<v Speaker 5>very holistically confident in that right now. The guard position

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be something else. Are they going against

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<v Speaker 5>really great talent? Absolutely? Defensive line is absolutely, they're They're

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<v Speaker 5>freaking juggernauts out there. It's positive in the light that

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<v Speaker 5>you get to go against high caliber talent. It's negative

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<v Speaker 5>in the sense if you don't get an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 5>see what these guys are truly capable of, because they're

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<v Speaker 5>getting their butts kicked often, you know. So it's a

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<v Speaker 5>it's a give and take, you know, when they go

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<v Speaker 5>out there and they have oh, okay, this is gonna be easier,

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<v Speaker 5>and yeah, they'll perform better than what we've seen out

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<v Speaker 5>here at practice because of the caliber of talent. But

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<v Speaker 5>at the same time, I don't know how effectively these

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<v Speaker 5>coaches can really judge the production of the players when

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<v Speaker 5>they're getting smacked up left and right by his amazing

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<v Speaker 5>d line.

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<v Speaker 7>One thing I just want to add real quick on that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's also a part for me because there is changes

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<v Speaker 6>on offense with bringing in Brian Shinheimer, with Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 6>calling the plays. They talk about getting the play in

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<v Speaker 6>early to Dak. If I'm a coach, I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>Dak going up there. And the very first thing he's

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<v Speaker 6>worried about is like, is this offensive line is gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be whold? He's got so much on his plate, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>with dissecting, is what's the defense doing right now? Like

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<v Speaker 6>I need him to be as confident as possible in

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<v Speaker 6>that offensive line in front of him.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were talking the other day about the West

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<v Speaker 2>Coast style and the West Coast concepts and making it

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<v Speaker 2>simple on Dak post snap, does it make it harder

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<v Speaker 2>on Dak pre snap walking up to the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 2>especially whenever there is an added element of okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>make sure I get blocked for this play. But is

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<v Speaker 2>there an added it just not not concerned, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, But is there an added pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>him going up to the line of scrimmage to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to read and be able to diagnose quicker and

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<v Speaker 2>better because everything happens so quick after the snap. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Had it been last year's system, I would say yes.

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<v Speaker 5>But being at the West Coast system is a quick release,

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<v Speaker 5>get the ball out of your hands quickly type of setting.

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<v Speaker 5>This office line isn't going to have to hold their

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<v Speaker 5>blocks for an expanded duration of time, nothing like last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, from a quarterbacks perspective, if I'm under the center,

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<v Speaker 5>it's three step game. Majority of this passing game is

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<v Speaker 5>three steps, three step game or play action. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>saying there's not five and seven steps there is, but

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<v Speaker 5>majority of it is three steps.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting out your hands quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>Your receivers are getting about five to seven yards, your

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<v Speaker 5>tightens are getting aboutive to seven yards down the field.

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<v Speaker 2>You always have a short option.

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<v Speaker 5>You always have an intermediate option around ten to twelve yards,

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<v Speaker 5>which your receivers get there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your five step read. It's really gonna be like

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<v Speaker 2>your second option.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have a three step read, you have a

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<v Speaker 5>five step read, and then you have a hey, just

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<v Speaker 5>get rid of it or take off read. So I

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<v Speaker 5>don't foresee them having to hold their blocks, which is

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<v Speaker 5>place to their benefit. You don't need a bunch of

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<v Speaker 5>absolute dogs up there to hold hold the ground all

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<v Speaker 5>day long. But for those instances, you still need a

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<v Speaker 5>solid offensive line, and I think that Dallas Cowboys will

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<v Speaker 5>have that. Right now, We're just looking at the second

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<v Speaker 5>and third strings. And trying to figure out, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 5>these scenarios that have represented themselves in recent years, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously show back up, who's going to be the one

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<v Speaker 5>that rises to the top, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's kind of a double edged sword though, because

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<v Speaker 4>while it does help you, I guess a bad offensive

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<v Speaker 4>line never helps you. But I guess it's better to have.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever you have a quick release game and a quick

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<v Speaker 4>release offense, you have to get the running game facilitated

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<v Speaker 4>in some way too. And if you can't get that

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<v Speaker 4>with the offensive line, that could happen. If you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Zach doesn't show up and an injury happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's when we started seeing at doomsday option on

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<v Speaker 4>that offensive line. But I am glad you brought up

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<v Speaker 4>that defensive line point, because that was something I was

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<v Speaker 4>thinking yesterday. Whenever this defensive line the first two days

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<v Speaker 4>through pass, we're just obliterating everything up front, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was thinking in the back of my head. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>play many video games, go, but I do play two

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<v Speaker 4>K and.

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<v Speaker 2>Madden a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, whenever I buy the game, the new game every year,

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<v Speaker 4>my goal is to get to the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 4>or the All Madden level and every year, even though

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's dumb, I start on that level and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Okay, this is too hard. I need to

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<v Speaker 4>work my way up. I feel like that's what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>with the offensive line right now. They're starting on the

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<v Speaker 4>Hall of Fame. They're starting on the All Madden. They

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<v Speaker 4>need to somehow figure out how to work back to

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<v Speaker 4>like veteran or pro and kind of work their way

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<v Speaker 4>up because it's it's it's not looking great right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get your foot like that. That's good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to the All Pro level and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get to the Hall of Fame level, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>can push and we can keep on.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we're really hooping.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what we're really a real big time all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's talking point number one. Nick, What was your

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<v Speaker 2>talking point the.

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<v Speaker 4>Running back two situation? You know, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like there's a ton of clarity in that in

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<v Speaker 4>that department.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>McCarthy did provide, you know, a little bit of confidence

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<v Speaker 4>in Rico Dubdell and Malik Davis earlier this week, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, with Ronald Jones suspension, I think that's that

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<v Speaker 4>throws another kind of wrench in this conversation. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Ronald Jones is the guy in that room who you know,

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<v Speaker 4>has a little bit of a different skill set. He

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<v Speaker 4>has a different experience level than everyone in that group.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, not having him in the first two games,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, how does that affect his roster status? Even so,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's going to be a position group that

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<v Speaker 4>sees a lot of fluidity through the preseason. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it is too early to kind of tell

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<v Speaker 4>who exactly is going to come up and take that

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<v Speaker 4>RB two spot, but I think preseason is going to

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<v Speaker 4>really determine a lot there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whenever you get the pads clack clicking and clacking

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, I mean even out here, they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>touching the hips like they're playing two hand touch here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's ultimately what it is. Not in the offense

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<v Speaker 2>and the defensive line, and there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a pop, but you keep them up right. That's different

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you're running back because you got to find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to blow through.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and I love Duce, do not get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>But there's a couple of these like spin a rounds

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<v Speaker 4>bounce off guys where like he'd be getting flattened. So

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<v Speaker 4>I I want to see him do that in the preseason,

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<v Speaker 4>be able to bounce guys off that are actually trying

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<v Speaker 4>to tackle him.

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<v Speaker 7>But this bouncing off and spinning those great for the video, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep doing that, news, come.

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<v Speaker 6>Bring it in here, like all right, sweet, it's sweet, sweet,

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<v Speaker 6>you know do that somerling again.

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<v Speaker 2>Dak jumping over the line and getting two hand touched

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<v Speaker 2>from behind. I think he would have scored that that

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown anyways, everybody's kind of I was right in front

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<v Speaker 2>of the it was the Dak design run and practice

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday, and jay Ron curses behind him he got

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<v Speaker 2>him on the hip. I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Curse makes that play because if that's a game,

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<v Speaker 2>Dak is extended and he is getting to the goal

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<v Speaker 2>line like that. He's done that so many different times.

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<v Speaker 4>I think me and Isaiah have talked about it. How

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<v Speaker 4>great was it to see a Reid option. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I haven't seen that from this offense in a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Put a couple of r pos in there, is there?

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<v Speaker 2>There were a couple at the goal line yesterday he

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<v Speaker 2>hit Jake Ferguson on one where it was a it

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<v Speaker 2>was a read option and he immediately hit the tight

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<v Speaker 2>end in the flat and it was a wide open

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown on the r PO is not a bad deal.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're talking point, Isaiah, I have to agree.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the running back situation, aside from the office

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<v Speaker 5>and line, that's my next my next box that I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like they need to check. I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred confident, but it's also a position group that

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<v Speaker 5>you can go out there and grab somebody and be okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think that they have the time on their

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<v Speaker 5>side to get to these preseason games to find out

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what they have. I also have full vote of

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<v Speaker 5>confidence in Malik Davis and Rico Daldo though I mean

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<v Speaker 5>those guys. I know everybody's talking about Dus because he's

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<v Speaker 5>a he's a newest edition, and he's he's you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he's he's a smaller guy, you know, electrifying all that jazz.

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<v Speaker 2>But the guys that have been here, those guys, those

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<v Speaker 2>guys are good. Those guys are really.

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<v Speaker 5>Good, and I have full confidence in them, and I

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<v Speaker 5>know this coaching staff does as well, because they have

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<v Speaker 5>shown trustworthy.

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<v Speaker 6>It was interesting to hear Mike McCarthy after that one

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<v Speaker 6>press conference a few days ago when he was asked specifically,

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<v Speaker 6>what of that second group the next running backs stood

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<v Speaker 6>out to you?

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<v Speaker 7>And I'll be honest, I did not expect him to

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<v Speaker 7>say Rico doubt all.

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<v Speaker 2>First.

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<v Speaker 6>It kind of surprised me, you know, and so that

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<v Speaker 6>was obviously intriguing. But and then talking to Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 6>yesterday after the press conference is over, he was asked

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<v Speaker 6>about EZEKIELA well, Ezekiel and why he wouldn't they don't

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<v Speaker 6>want to go that direction right now, and he talked

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<v Speaker 6>about how, like we said, with the offensive line, wanting

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<v Speaker 6>to see out here one is seeing the preseason games,

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<v Speaker 6>what you have with some of the younger guys. But

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<v Speaker 6>the name has to stay until Ezekiel Elliott signs elsewhere

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<v Speaker 6>because the owner and general manager will not close that

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<v Speaker 6>door on Ezekiel Elay, you have to keep that as

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<v Speaker 6>a possibility that he could be returning to the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if that happens or not, but you

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<v Speaker 6>can't close the door on that right now.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think the percentages Ezekiel Elliott suits up

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<v Speaker 4>Week one?

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<v Speaker 7>For me, it's gone up in the last two days.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, interesting, I would agree. Who do you think would would.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not saying it's a high percentage, it's gone up.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit, but who who do you think would

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<v Speaker 2>close that door first? Do you think it would be

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<v Speaker 2>the front office or do you think it'd be Zeke's

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<v Speaker 2>party that would close that door first?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it right now it would have to be

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<v Speaker 6>Zeke's party because I think it's been made known to

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<v Speaker 6>his party kind of where the Cowboys are financially for

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<v Speaker 6>you know, they're not looking to pay like a number one.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that's in the off season. Everyone bring up

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<v Speaker 6>like the Dalvin Cook stuff like all the time. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>just like, that's just not a price point that they're

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<v Speaker 6>not they're gonna you know, they're more into the Leonard

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<v Speaker 6>Fournette type of like, you know, if they don't find

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<v Speaker 6>the right guy out here, then you don't have to

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<v Speaker 6>spend a time and bring a guy in. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think if his dollar amount was willing to come down,

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<v Speaker 6>then I think that would be the thing there.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Outside of you know, the Patriots are the only other

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<v Speaker 6>team that's been you know, the rumored to a well,

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<v Speaker 6>not rumored. It's been reported that they've met with him.

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<v Speaker 6>So maybe he ends up there. But as long as

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<v Speaker 6>he is a free agent, you just can't close the

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<v Speaker 6>door in it. But there were definitely times where I,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, during the offseason, I was like, it's like

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<v Speaker 6>one percent chance, and now I'll probably go up to

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<v Speaker 6>maybe five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just my assumption.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume that offer sheet is on the table waiting

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<v Speaker 4>for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I assume that close.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, I'm not necessarily that it's that close. I'm saying, like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is your price point. If you want to meet that, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>we'd love to have you, but we can't. We can't

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<v Speaker 4>go past that dollar.

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<v Speaker 2>You're waiting for them to It's like what John was saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're waiting for exactly for dall or for Zeke's

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<v Speaker 2>party to come down, for Dallas to make it happen. Yeah. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>And then from his perspective though, I kind of wonder too,

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<v Speaker 6>like what other options he has out there, because like

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<v Speaker 6>the role he had when he was drafted and then

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<v Speaker 6>the role he would have now is just so different.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe he has a better opportunity to another team that

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<v Speaker 6>where he's got a better chance to maybe be their

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<v Speaker 6>lead ball carrier by the end of the season. You

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<v Speaker 6>know that maybe right now it doesn't look that way,

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<v Speaker 6>but he signs with this team and you're like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 6>the end of season, Ezekiel, it was that team's leading rusher.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you might not expect it now because he's

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<v Speaker 6>not on a team, but this stuff moves quickly, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you want to see that, Isaiah, would you want

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<v Speaker 2>to see Zeke back with the Cowboys?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it'd be obviously great for him, great for

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<v Speaker 5>the for the team and the fan base. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>see it happening, yeah, I mean they gave his number

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<v Speaker 5>away immediately, immediately. It's a good player too, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>I'm hard to take that one away. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 5>not the only measure obviously, but that's major. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's in for somebody who meant as much as organization

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<v Speaker 5>as he did, and they hurry up and gave that away.

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<v Speaker 2>That that means something. So I don't really foresee that happening.

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<v Speaker 5>And plus, there's a lot of really great opportunities around

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<v Speaker 5>the league right now that he that are kind of

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<v Speaker 5>falling into his lap. So I think the longer he

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<v Speaker 5>waits the more leverage he gains. Unfortunately, there's injuries in

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<v Speaker 5>this game, and the more running backs that get hurt

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<v Speaker 5>around the league, the higher his thought goes. So he's

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<v Speaker 5>just really sitting back chilling right now, not having to

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<v Speaker 5>go through camp.

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<v Speaker 7>That is a great point.

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<v Speaker 6>It is so true because they haven't even played any

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<v Speaker 6>preseason games yet and there's just all I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 6>just the nature of the game. There's gonna be freak injuries,

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<v Speaker 6>and when that happens, there could be a team that

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<v Speaker 6>you know is a contender that all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 6>it's like, Man, if you come in right now, you

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<v Speaker 6>can be the missing piece to this team. And for him,

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<v Speaker 6>how could you turn that down?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it could. I really don't guess. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what he's waiting for at this point. He's

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for that opportunity to arise, whether that's in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 2>New England. Insert name here of an injury that's that

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<v Speaker 2>has yet to happen. But camp injuries happen, especially at

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<v Speaker 2>the running back position. Preseason injuries happen at the running

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<v Speaker 2>back position, So we may not even see that that

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<v Speaker 2>saga come to a close until week two or three.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the preseason and then you finally get a full

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<v Speaker 2>lay of the land on what the NFL brings from

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<v Speaker 2>a running back standpoint and what it would bring for

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<v Speaker 2>Zeke going into this season. But all right, I like

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<v Speaker 2>the talking points overall. We got to We hit a

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<v Speaker 2>lot there. When we come back, though, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>continue with first impressions of the padded practices, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk a little bit more about this battle

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, say it with your chest Fridays. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I gotta say it with your chest. Yes, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of saying it with your chest. TJ. Bass offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 2>undrafted free agent out of Oregon. This is the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in depth training camp coverage that you get on

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<v Speaker 2>Talking Cowboys talk about undrafted free agents. On the guard spot,

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<v Speaker 2>he's rotated in a couple of times. He did so

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<v Speaker 2>in a rookie mini camp where he was running with

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<v Speaker 2>the ones, at least the wrong ones of rookies. He

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<v Speaker 2>did so with OTAs and now he's starting to rotate

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<v Speaker 2>in at guard with not with no Zach Martin and

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<v Speaker 2>the rotating in and out with Josh Ball at the

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<v Speaker 2>right guard spot. Have you have you seen anything from TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Bass and when he's brought to the table John and

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<v Speaker 2>and has he impressed you at all? I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find a bright spot on the offensive line, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he might be one of them.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't say that there's anything about him that necessarily

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<v Speaker 6>jumped out to me, but he was a guy that

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<v Speaker 6>when they signed him after their draft, nick Yeatman was

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<v Speaker 6>kind of making fun of me for this that I

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<v Speaker 6>went and got like a got him off to this,

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<v Speaker 6>I know, like in the lock from now the rookies

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<v Speaker 6>aren't in there yet, and I was like, oh, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>The pr SAF was like, is anybody else you want

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<v Speaker 6>to talk to that they're not bringing out? And I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, yeah, I kind of want to talk to

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<v Speaker 6>TJ just because the position he plays. He was a

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<v Speaker 6>guy that I want to say Dan Brugler might have

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<v Speaker 6>had as a six round grade on but it was

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<v Speaker 6>definitely a draftable. Maybe it might have been a fit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>And so because of that, he's been a guy that

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<v Speaker 6>I've kind of wanted to pay attention to. I just

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<v Speaker 6>I really haven't as much as I've wanted because of

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<v Speaker 6>In these first couple of Paddy practices, I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>more of my focus has been on the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>receivers and dbs and stuff like that. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>mean obviously running with the ones is what is what

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<v Speaker 6>you want, and he's going to get every opportunity for that,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, and talking to him, it was one

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<v Speaker 6>of those things where as you get later in the draft,

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<v Speaker 6>you're not getting drafted, so then you start getting calls

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<v Speaker 6>from teams and it's like, Okay, where do I fit?

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<v Speaker 7>What what team do I have the best chance to

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<v Speaker 7>get some playing time?

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<v Speaker 6>Your agent's talking to those teams and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 6>and the Cowboys are obviously a good fit for him.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen a lot of TJ bass this week's specific,

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<v Speaker 4>in the lifelast week specifically, but I will say where

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<v Speaker 4>he comes from and the coaching that he comes from

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<v Speaker 4>leads me to have a lot of confidence in what

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<v Speaker 4>he can do. Alex Mirrabaal, who's his offensive line coach

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<v Speaker 4>that brought him into Oregon. He's now at Miami, and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll dive into you know, specific position coaches around draft

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<v Speaker 4>time and why those are so important. But Alex Mierbal

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<v Speaker 4>is the best offensive line coach in the entire country.

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<v Speaker 4>And for him to go into the JUCO ranks and

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<v Speaker 4>pull TJ. Bess out and make him a priority, that

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<v Speaker 4>says a lot about what he can do. And he

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<v Speaker 4>started immediately as soon as he got to Eugene so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just having that in his background, even if

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<v Speaker 4>he did go undrafted, that leads me. That leads me

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<v Speaker 4>to a lot of confidence about what he can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Has anybody else in terms of the rookies? Has anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else jumped out off the page, whether it's offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>or not, just rookie class in general? Has anybody jumped

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<v Speaker 2>off the page from? For sure?

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<v Speaker 4>We can start with the duo of Jalen's and honestly

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<v Speaker 4>you could. You could trickle it down to the trio

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<v Speaker 4>of Jalen wide receivers that have just had a good

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<v Speaker 4>week in general. Yeah, but talking about the two rookies,

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<v Speaker 4>Jalen Brooks and then Jalen moreno Cropper, it was Jalen

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<v Speaker 4>moreno CROs more so last week and once the pads

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<v Speaker 4>got put on and we could be a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more physical out here, it was Jalen Brooks and man,

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<v Speaker 4>he's been fantastic through cap and I'm sure we'll talk

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<v Speaker 4>about him a lot more in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think as a Yeah, Brooks is the

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<v Speaker 2>only one that really pops out for me right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's he's shown up a few times. I

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<v Speaker 5>like his I like his release off the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 5>I like his ability to separate at the top of

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<v Speaker 5>the route. And then obviously with his size, he can

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<v Speaker 5>he has strong hands, and he has he's really strong

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<v Speaker 5>at the point of the catch.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a good dude. I like him. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to him talk, have my opportunity to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him a little bit. I like him. I

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<v Speaker 2>like him. How can a tall, lanky, wide receiver like

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<v Speaker 2>that one grow into his frame, because that's something that

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<v Speaker 2>that coach McCarthy and the offensive staff has talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a lot of times he's he looks very,

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<v Speaker 2>very long. He's just kind of yeah, a little sloppy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's raw, let's say it that way. He's got this

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<v Speaker 2>raw talent. How does he grow into that? And then two,

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<v Speaker 2>how does his coaching staff unlock a inability in the

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<v Speaker 2>red zone to use him? Because he had one touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>grab his final year at South Carolina, he played the

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<v Speaker 2>entire season, had one touchdown grab. It was a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>yarder at Tennessee. That was it. That was the only

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<v Speaker 2>one he had. So how do you unlock that a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit by putting him in situations to be successful.

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<v Speaker 5>In the red zone, confidence and reps. Let him get

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<v Speaker 5>his reps, let him get confidence. I mean, from the

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<v Speaker 5>things I've seen him do over the last few days,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't see a reason why he wouldn't have success

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<v Speaker 5>at this level, regardless of what he did in college.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all about the situation that you put in, the

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<v Speaker 5>system that you're in, the person's throwing you the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>All those things matter, right everything. That's why I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>a big stat guy, because there's so many other things

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<v Speaker 5>that affected. From what I've seen, he is a good

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<v Speaker 5>fit here. Nobody does what he does currently at that

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<v Speaker 5>position group, and they don't have anybody to fulfill that role.

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<v Speaker 5>MG is there gold guy? Really kind of sort of

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<v Speaker 5>right now, Cooks is gonna cook people this year. Just

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<v Speaker 5>system alone with him is nasty. CD's gonna do a

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<v Speaker 5>CD does, and they don't have a guy that they

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<v Speaker 5>really go up there and just say, hey, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>run you on a seven step post. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 5>of body up the guy and go grab it. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's who he is right now until somebody else shows

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<v Speaker 5>him up. So I look forward to seeing him in

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<v Speaker 5>the preseason.

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<v Speaker 4>He's starting to creep into that wide receiver conversation as

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<v Speaker 4>far as making the team and being on this travel roster.

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<v Speaker 4>When preseason comes around, that's when it's gonna be, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>prove your keep on this roster and prove that you

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<v Speaker 4>can make it happen in a game as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen that happen a couple times out here. John,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about Semi Fojoko is a great example

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<v Speaker 2>where in camp he looks great, he flashes, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>the size, he's got this ability, and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it just fizzles away. I don't want that

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<v Speaker 2>to happen to Jalen Brooks, but we've seen it a

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<v Speaker 2>couple times before. Do you think he can continue what

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen out here and whenever we get into preseason play? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 6>And I mean when I came out here, if I

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<v Speaker 6>was doing my wide receiver depth chart that I thought

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<v Speaker 6>would make the fifty three, he was not on it.

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<v Speaker 6>But after these last few days, I'm like, oh, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 6>he's absolutely in that mix with you know, you mentioned Foko.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Jalen tulb it in a really good spot there,

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<v Speaker 6>and and Turpens really impressed me out here. Yeah, so

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 6>they're not gonna obviously keep seven wide receivers, so you

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 6>know there's gonna be an odd man out. But man,

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 6>if you told me right now, I had to cut

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 6>down that roster and it'd be tough to keep Dayalen

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 6>Brooks off of it.

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>There's a tough there's a tough decision in a couple number,

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 2>a couple positions, and there's there comes a time at

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>camp where you start playing that game, where you start

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 2>playing the cut game. You start looking at how many

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>defensive linemen are you gonna take. You're gonna want to

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 2>take ten eleven defensive linemen in general, and that includes

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>edge rushers. You're gonna want to take four or five linebackers.

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna want to take four safeties. But then where

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>do you where do you take? Where you cut down?

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>What position group do you have to level it out with?

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's when it's gonna get interesting with wide receiver because,

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>like you said, there's no way they can take seven

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>with them, but there's gonna have to be six guys

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 2>that they're gonna have to cut it down to at

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>some point, and so an odd man out is certainly

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen not only a wide receiver, but at a

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>couple positions. Isaiah, Yeah, a couple positions. But I'm keeping

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 2>in miye on the receiver position just because him.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 5>I used to Jalen Brooks. Obviously all the battle of

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 5>the Jalen's right, he got all the Jalen's the trifecta,

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 5>but Jalen Brooks, specifically him versus Simmy Fooco. When I

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 5>look at the two of them, the difference aside from

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 5>the investment, the initial investment, Jalen Brooks seems more eager

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 5>to contribute on special teams, just just my observance, my observation,

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 5>he seems eager to actually go out there like and

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 5>we asked about specially he's like, oh yeah, Like give

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 5>me that. I didn't get that vibe from Simney when

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 5>he first came in nor last year. Not to say

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 5>that he wasn't willing, but there's something to be said

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 5>about knowing how you're going to impact this team, knowing

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 5>what's required to make this team, and then obviously being

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 5>able to be effective in those roles. They better get

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 5>their conditioning up because they're going to be all over

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 5>the place in preseason. They're going to be on the

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 5>field for three quarters and they're going to be on

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 5>special teams and at the receiver, so they're ready to

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 5>get their conditioning in. They're going to be asked to

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 5>not only have impact on offense, but also make impact

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 5>on especially because that's how you're gonna make this roster.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 5>None of the receivers at the bottom of this roster

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 5>are going to just be offensive threats. You have four

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 5>receivers that are locked in. Called it how it is.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 5>You got four guys that are locked in. You got CD,

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 5>you got Cooks, and you got Gallup and you got Turp.

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 5>Those guys are locked in those four, So you really

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 5>you could argue with with it being a third round pick.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 5>Jaalen Tolbert's probably the fifth. Tobert's probably, I mean with

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 5>the camp that he's having yet he's he's they're gonna

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 5>give him another opportunity, so call it five.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 2>So here's there's a battle for one spot.

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 5>Really unless something just goes horribly wrong for Jayling to watch,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 5>I don't see right now, he's playing very confident.

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>It looks like a totally different player. He has the

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>leverage of being a top one pick. Time they're not

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna cut ties like a top one hundred pick correct,

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, that's what's that's what gets weird because

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 2>we got we got to Oxnard and one of the

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>first topics was wide receiver four, who's got it? And

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 2>it feels like turping or not turping. It feels like

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and I guess you could say turp and have that

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>wider first five or lock room kind of locked up.

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>But then it's now now the battleshifts to wide receiver six,

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>who is here whenever they make that trip. And that's

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>what people don't People don't understand how mentally stressful camp is.

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Imagine being one of I don't know, I mean, guys

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I got brought twelve guys I've received probably.

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 5>Imagine that camp and I haven't counted it up, and

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 5>knowing that you're you're all going after one spot. It's

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 5>the most stressful thing in the world. Every decision. If

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 5>I go out there, I mean, I don't remember what.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>The tight end.

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 5>Yesterday there was a tight end. I got in there

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 5>and he got in with the ones and fall started.

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 5>Immediately taken out. It's a Princeton fan.

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it might have been fat but immediately you're

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 2>taken out like that alone.

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 5>Will beat you up for the rest of the week

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 5>because like I lost the trust, they put me in

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 5>a situation I lost their trust. Now I'm gona have

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 5>to do ten positive things just to make up for

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 5>that one. That's what you're dealing with every single day

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 5>in terms of the stress of camp.

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Man, you're litter. I better do this right, I better

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>do this right, and it makes it almost impossible to

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>just be you.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 5>So it's not until the preseason games really show up

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 5>that you see the real version of these players. Camp

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 5>is awesome, but when they get to the games, that's

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 5>when they can literally relax and be Okay, now I

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 5>could play again, right, And even then you're still under

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 5>so much to risk.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>But people need to understand the stresses man of camp.

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 6>It it's hard, and I think that's going on in

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 6>every camp every year, but for this team particularly, like

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 6>for me, it's This is clearly the best roster the

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 6>Cowboys have had since I've covered the team from top

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 6>to bottom. Like McCarthy said the other day, it's gonna

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 6>be the hard It's gonna be a very difficult fifty

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 6>three cut. There's just so many spots that already locked

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 6>up that there's so many guys in those positions, Like

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 6>you're saying that, it's like, yeah, you make one mistake

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 6>like that, and you're just like, man, is that the

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 6>difference of me making an NFL team? Am I gonna

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 6>get another chance? Am I gonna get an opportunity maybe

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 6>with another team? Who knows what happens here? Because yeah,

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 6>this roster isn't that, Like you know, we talked earlier,

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 6>there'll be injuries and they'll shift things as well. But

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 6>as it's since here right now, like you know, I mean,

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 6>obviously there were some good teams in four teen and

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 6>sixteen and stuff like that, but they were not as

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 6>good from top to bottom. There were some weaknesses there,

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 6>and they've done a good job of shoring up those

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 6>areas to their Just isn't when I look at this

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 6>roster there's this isn't all those spots, Oh, this guy

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 6>might make it in special teams, this guy might help

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 6>it out here, Like, there's just not that many spots available, man.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>And even so you're it's it's interesting hearing the different

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 2>viewpoints because you're you're seeing this from an outside source,

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 2>a beat Ryder working for the athletic, but you could

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>hear the stress in your voice because hey, they have

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>this this roster, they have this opportunity to make this jump,

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>and you want to you don't want to be left behind.

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I could hear the stress in Isaiah's voice as a

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>former player on the other side of it too, of

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 2>feeling that stress going to sleep at night and you

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>don't want to put your your iPad away because you

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>want to look at the next couple of plays, and

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 2>because you want to end up in the right situation

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 2>at the right time. And and you mentioned how it

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:59.239
<v Speaker 2>beats yourself up for certain things, little things that you think,

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 2>little mistakes that add up, and then that break that

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 2>trust between you and the coaching staff, and how it

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>bothers these guys for days. I could tell you've you've

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>got a couple of those those memories as well.

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 5>There's one play that I remember when I was with

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 5>Seattle and I was up to obviously a contract year,

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 5>all this kind of stuff, and I was coming actually

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 5>the following year, I was coming off of injury, and

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 5>they put me in a situation in practice where they

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 5>were looking for one guy to fill a role in

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 5>terms of big plays, and they put me in for

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 5>that play, and I freaking dropped the ball. I dropped it,

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 5>and I knew when I dropped it, I was like, damn,

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 5>that was it? Like that was that was the If

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 5>I make that play, I'm their guy, you know, if.

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 7>I given a chance, if you were given a hundred

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 7>chances to make that play, man.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 2>And nine times you make that Yeah wow. So I

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>mean but you but you know, like in your heart,

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and then you're you're you're thinking over what could have

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>done differently? What did I do wrong?

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 5>What what would I change? And then it messages you

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 5>up for another play, and then it's snowballs. Right then

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 5>you start seeing guys that used to be confident. I mean,

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 5>there's there's guys I'm not gonna name their names right now.

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:57.959
<v Speaker 5>There's guys that you that we saw last year playing

0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 5>with full confidence, that were walking around with their head

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 5>down right now because the situations at their end right

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 5>and you can see it on their face like they're stressing.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 5>I know it right from the player staff, I'm like,

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 5>they're in their own head. He kind of wants you

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 5>to say that, No, no, you don't want to say, well.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 7>I can just tell you when he was saying that

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 7>I'm thinking of from last year.

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm thinking of Jalen Tolbert, which just like you know,

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 6>you come here and then Mike McCarthy wants you to

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 6>play all three wide receiver spots and that was a lot.

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 6>And he admitted that, you know, and I think it

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 6>was after Ota practice one time in his locker room

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 6>and his locker about how there was just a lot.

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 11>You know.

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 6>And then I keep going back to you know, that

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 6>play in Green Bay where you know, he lines up

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 6>off sides and just like just you know, that just

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 6>gonna beat you down, and that's going to weigh on you,

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 6>like you know, I'm finally giving this opportunity, and this happens,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 6>and like you just said, like it's snowballs until where

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 6>like now it starts affecting you here, it affects you

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 6>in this in this part of the game and you know,

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 6>your preparation things like that. And so I do think

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 6>that because of him having that experience, he gets to

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 6>go in the off season, you know, work with Dad,

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 6>getting the playbook and everything.

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 7>Like that, and have a chance to rebound from it.

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, there's that that is a great point.

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Talking about the mental adversity aspect. If we're looking at

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 4>all the guys that are vying for this last receiver spot.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 4>I like Jalen Brooks even more because of his the

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 4>way he's approaching everything. He's like, look, yeah, I've had

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 4>great days, but it's brick by brick. I gotta stack it.

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't get too high, I don't get too low.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm very level headed. That's what he said a couple

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 4>days ago when I pulled him off one on one,

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 4>and that's what he said again yesterday whenever we had

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 4>him in media availability. So being able to have that mindset,

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 4>I think is going to be what eventually helps in

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 4>those situations.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I like him. Thirteen receivers out here right now, thirteen

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>of them, and I feel like all of them have

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 2>made some sort of storyline or headline at some point

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 2>along the way.

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 6>When you say that, all I think of is, Okay,

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 6>I wonder what the NFL record is of, like what

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 6>on cut day? Because what's the most receivers the team's

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 6>ever kept? Like, is there been a team that kept

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:45.919
<v Speaker 6>me like seven?

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Eight receivers? You would know of? Yeah, you would have to.

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 2>There's got to stretch at other positions that's the thing.

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 5>There are eight guys going for one spot and people

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't think people get it, you know what I'm saying.

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I really don't think people would get it. There's eight

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>guys that that particularly, just that position group going for

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>one spot. There's guys out here there busting their butts

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 2>every single day giving it their absolutely one. They know

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>they have zero chance of making this roster.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 4>And it's so competitive because let's say Jalen Brooks has

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 4>a day Thursday and Saturday, he doesn't have a great day. Yeah,

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 4>he was right back there, you know, and the door

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 4>doors right back open.

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 6>Like you said, things with the wide receiver is a

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 6>position that we all can watch watching. Yeah, Like, and

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 6>it's just if you mess up, like you talk about

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 6>dropping that pass, like everybody sees it. Like whereas if

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 6>you miss like a block, you got some other guys

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 6>people try a bit, they throw to you and you

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<v Speaker 6>drop that past or whatever like that, you just feel

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 6>like every single eyeball is on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can go back to even last year

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<v Speaker 2>in camp, Will Greer was almost a backup. No, yeah,

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 2>people don't. People don't remember that, Like Will Greer was

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 2>almost a backup. He had a better camp. He had

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>a better camp, and an injury happened, right, an injury happened.

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Because that injury happened. Now all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a Cooper Us who has a brand new contract. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there are some days out here, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the stuff turns.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, there are some days out here in twenty

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 6>sixteen where Jamil Showers had a better day than Dak Prescott. Yeah,

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 6>it's crazy to think about now, you know that. And

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 6>then Kellen goes down and just the way that whole

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 6>thing came together and just how fast that moved. And

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 6>that's at the you know, the most important position.

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>So the NFL moves quickly, Yes, and it waits for nobody. Nope,

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>that's that's ultimately what it is. You you better keep

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 2>up or get out of the way. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes. All right. When we come back one

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<v Speaker 2>final segment, it's gonna be a short one. We went

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<v Speaker 2>a little long this time, sorry, Beamer, but we'll uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll wrap things up and we'll talk a little defensive

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<v Speaker 2>be tough coming up in the next couple weeks with

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<v Speaker 12>Welcome back into Dear Doctor, the show where I answer

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<v Speaker 12>let's hear from my next caller, would you, Dear Doctor?

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<v Speaker 8>My friend supported me during a tough time.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's the right gift that says thanks for being

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<v Speaker 1>To cry out?

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<v Speaker 2>The artie. It's not an RTG. I guess what would

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<v Speaker 2>be just RTG? Ready to go, artie, ready to eat,

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<v Speaker 2>ready to eat some artie.

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<v Speaker 7>How many times is this an everyday thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you don't love it? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>love quicker.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't eat breakfast. I just in that hunger the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the most important meal?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I know? I don't eat. What time did you eat

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<v Speaker 2>last night?

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<v Speaker 7>I ate at that that media party? Eight or nine?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, eight o'clock right now, it's right now, it's what

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<v Speaker 5>about to be ten o'clock, close to ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for the last fourteen hours?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, your body has nothing to eat off it's got

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<v Speaker 5>some water fourteen hours.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why breakfast is the most important middle of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your quick guns. All right, ps at it.

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<v Speaker 7>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a sponsor's dream, he really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's annoying. Oh back here with Isaiah stand back

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<v Speaker 2>the walking. We've got Nick Harris, We've got John Mitchowda.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kylei Yeowens wrapping things up here on Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean the stress level is high for a

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of these guys at camp and thirteen wide receivers

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<v Speaker 2>going down to six. Think about defensive line, and I

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<v Speaker 2>brought it up a little bit in the last segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you where do you draw the line? And

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<v Speaker 2>there's some big names that are gonna be cut at

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<v Speaker 2>some point and big bodies that are gonna get cut.

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<v Speaker 2>You think about a guy like Neville Gallimore, who was

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<v Speaker 2>a third round pick. He is fighting for a spot

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.359
<v Speaker 2>on the roster with Mazzi Spith in front of him,

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Hankins in front of him, and I think Gallimore

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<v Speaker 2>has actually had a solidified camp. I think he's done

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<v Speaker 2>a decent job in the middle. He's provided a little

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>bit of pass rush. But as as anybody else stood

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<v Speaker 2>out to you on that defensive line as stepping up

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<v Speaker 2>to try and fight for one of those rosters posts

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's obviously been the guys that you're expecting

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 6>to sure have been wrecking shot. But yeah, when I

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 6>look at the roster, I'm like, man, it's gonna be

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 6>tough for them to keep more than ten defensive linemen.

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<v Speaker 6>And when I say ten, I'm counting my with that,

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<v Speaker 6>even though on the roster they listen to Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, So I like, like, Neville Gallimore is a

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 6>guy like you mentioned Bohanna, and then obviously that Chauncey

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 6>Golston slash Fajoko where they kind of play somewhat of

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 6>a similar hybrid. I do think there's a good chance

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<v Speaker 6>that both of them make it. But I'm just saying, like,

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<v Speaker 6>it's that is a tough spot when you look at

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<v Speaker 6>from top to bottom if everyone stays healthy, because that's

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 6>always the thing. Like you look at this and we

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 6>go into it and it's, oh, yeah, no, that's because

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 6>they're gonna have everybody. And then you get out here

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 6>and you know Sam Williams is missing some time, and

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 6>then Dorian's Armstrong isn't and then so you start moving

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 6>some pieces around and things like that.

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<v Speaker 7>But man, you look at that from top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 7>Mike McCarthy said it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the this is the best depth he's had a

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<v Speaker 6>defensive line in his coaching career. So I just find

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<v Speaker 6>it hard to believe that they could go more than eleven.

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:49.399
<v Speaker 6>And I even think that that's gonna be tough.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And we've talked about it a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's kind of throwing a wrench into this

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<v Speaker 4>conversation a little bit. But it's so deep on that

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<v Speaker 4>defensive line. Do you consider trading somebody out some point.

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<v Speaker 7>That has to be on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>We said this last year. They should have did it

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<v Speaker 2>last year.

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<v Speaker 4>The opportunity is still there to get offensive line deaf.

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<v Speaker 2>Or running back. I'm not offensive line or running back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not gonna name names, but there are a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of guys on on that defensive line that their

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<v Speaker 4>max value is right now, and go ahead and get

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 4>a piece off of them. But you know, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's more likely that they go and

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<v Speaker 2>sign somebody at one of these positions if need, or

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<v Speaker 2>is it more likely that they use a surplus like

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<v Speaker 2>defensive line. Maybe some of these young linebackers that probably

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't get into the to the mix. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's more likely that they trade to go get a

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>piece to help out some of these positions. I'm hope.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand when I say I want to be empathetic

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<v Speaker 5>to guys, because it is guys' lives when they have

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 5>to get up and move. Okay, but it's a business.

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I feel as if Dallas missed an opportunity last year

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 5>to be aggressive and trade away some of their defensive

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<v Speaker 5>line assets.

0:44:59.040 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I truly do.

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 5>I think they could have filled some gaps last year

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 5>having that surplus of assets. This year, it's no different,

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<v Speaker 5>except for the fact they've added two more guys in

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<v Speaker 5>the draft this year.

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 2>So you have two guys that history says they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on a roster.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, all right, that's Fajoko in Massi Smith, all right,

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 5>So those guys are gonna be on the roster.

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 2>They're there.

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 5>So you add two more guys to a depth chart

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:28.240
<v Speaker 5>that was already stacked. I almost think it's as aggressive

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 5>as this front office has been this offseason and acquiring

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 5>pieces that are going to be instrumental to their success

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 5>this year. I think that they won't. I think they

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 5>had to have to learned from their previous mistakes, I eat,

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 5>mistakes from last year.

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Not trading.

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 5>I think they take that step this year and they

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 5>be aggressive and they trade now. I believe that they'll

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 5>allow a preseason game to go by just to remind

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 5>everybody how valuable some of these guys are, because it's

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 5>going to be highly competitive at that position once you

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 5>see how successful they are.

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of guys are going to

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>be on that trading block.

0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 5>I think they're gonna be packaged up and sent off

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 5>most likely to acquire some assets that are are of need.

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 5>Because Dallas has a couple week spots. I mean, their

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.400
<v Speaker 5>armors dog on bullet almost bulletproof at this point. In

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 5>terms of their roster, the way the roster has made up,

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 5>it's a couple of saw spots, right. If you have

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 5>an ability to take some of those those hardened spots

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 5>right and fill those gaps all of a sudden, all

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 5>of a sudden, you got a Captain American shoot.

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 6>When you were saying that, the first thing I was

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 6>thinking I was in twenty eighteen, they kind of had

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 6>they kind of felt good about a few of their

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 6>DB's not starters, but on their depth, and it was

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 6>Charvarius Ward, and at the end of twenty eighteen they

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 6>traded him. They did that for that Parker and then Jury.

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 6>I want to make sure I got it right. From

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 6>Kansas City. They didn't get much out of Energy at all,

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 6>and then Ward ended up.

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 7>Being pretty good.

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 6>So i'saw, I'm just saying, like, I'm just thinking of

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 6>them trading somebody, and what will happen is like they'll

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 6>end up getting in a spot where they're on a

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.439
<v Speaker 6>team that doesn't have a lot of great defensive line depths,

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 6>and then they kind of play well and then you

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 6>got to hear about it, Like for.

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<v Speaker 2>The ever, you know what happen about John Ridgway last

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I was yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean he was a

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 2>draft pick and basically he got plucked off of the

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 2>practice squad rostered by Washington. All of a sudden, he

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 2>was stuffing the run against you. Yeah. A couple of

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.919
<v Speaker 2>weeks later, I mean he was playing against you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean you could tell you.

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<v Speaker 6>I will say though, I mean as we sit her

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<v Speaker 6>today though, like if he's still on this team right now,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he's in with that group, You're just like

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<v Speaker 6>they're stacked.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's that's the reason why the whole conversation is here, right,

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<v Speaker 5>It's just you have a surplus of assets, so use

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<v Speaker 5>them to get what you need to stir up your team.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure, you didn't get anything out of rich Way.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing at all, you know, yikes.

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<v Speaker 5>And he gave you, gave up money, He gave up

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<v Speaker 5>money to get him, and you got nothing for him.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's what I'm saying, learning from their mistakes of

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<v Speaker 5>the past, what I consider mistakes of the past, and

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<v Speaker 5>aggressive as they've been this year, to go out there

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<v Speaker 5>and get Cooks, to get Gilmore to be in the

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<v Speaker 5>front office like they're they're they're not sitting back and

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<v Speaker 5>waiting and getting the leftovers like they have in recent years.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay aggressive, keep that energy.

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<v Speaker 6>Also with that Macarthy said the other day about that's

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<v Speaker 6>part of the reason that they didn't they're not scrimmaging

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<v Speaker 6>or practicing against another team is because he just wants

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<v Speaker 6>to really see this first team go against you know,

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<v Speaker 6>their first team offense, first team defense.

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<v Speaker 7>Because of how loaded you know, this pro competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can beat each other up.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, leads to fights and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, always it got a little chippy yesterday, it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was There's been a lot of competition. They

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of one on ones, they had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of seven on seven works, So of course with

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<v Speaker 2>the competition ramping up, the chippiness ensued. So for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>got to keep everybody separated. You got to keep everybody

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<v Speaker 2>having having a productive session. That's the one thing you

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<v Speaker 2>want to avoid. But it's been good and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the camp energy is high. I mean they're taking the

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<v Speaker 2>field behind us and going through some walkthroughs, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think the more that we get into this camp, the

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<v Speaker 2>more we're gonna see that competition ramp up and we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see these guys really fall into roles, because then

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<v Speaker 2>it turns from a hope to a worry to a concern.

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<v Speaker 2>Now then it's a it's a desperation as camp goes along.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, if you get here, you get off the charter.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody thinks for making the making the tea right, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's all of a sudden, you're not. And that's when

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<v Speaker 2>that's when things can think it's really a little bit wild.

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 2>And that's when these next couple padded practices are really

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell us who this team is and how

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be built. But that's going to do

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<v Speaker 2>it for us. We're a little out of time. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we could keep ying. I got all day

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<v Speaker 2>Forcasta for the hour. But good news, we'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday. We got one more show this week. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk on Friday. We'll have another padded practices to pat

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 2>practice to go off of on Thursday, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>keep on rolling going into week number three here in

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<v Speaker 2>ox Stars. For you guys, it'll be a game week

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<v Speaker 2>at that point. By the way, Talking Cowboys is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be well represented on that first preseason game. Isaiah

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<v Speaker 2>Standback is going to be in the booth. You nervous, nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to get ready. There you go. Isaiah is

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<v Speaker 2>in the booth for all three preseason games, all three

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<v Speaker 2>of them. So he'll he'll be with myself and Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Jones for the first one, and then it'll be the

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<v Speaker 2>same booth, but flipping roles. I'll do play by play

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 2>for the first one, uh color for the second one,

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<v Speaker 2>so it will flip roles and then the third one.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Irvin is one guy that played wide receiver here.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point he comes in kicks me out of

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<v Speaker 2>the booth. It's okay, it's fine. I'll make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>So it'll be Bill, Michael and Isaiah for that third

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<v Speaker 2>preseason game. So really excited about that. We'll come. Gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be fun, but it is. We got one more show

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<v Speaker 2>then it's game week. Here on Talking Cowboys for Ja Machoda,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Harris, Isaiah's standback for Chris being behind the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you on Friday

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<v Speaker 2>with more Talking Cowboys.

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