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Speaker 1: Ten today, tuchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 1: John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeoman's.

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Speaker 2: We are here nine am in the morning eleven am

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Speaker 2: Central time, but we are back on the tennis courts

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Speaker 2: in Oxnard, California's Cowboys training camp continues. We have two

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Speaker 2: padded practices down. We've got a couple more to go

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Speaker 2: before the Cowboys take on the Jaguars next Saturday in

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Speaker 2: preseason game number one. Alongside John Machoda, Nick Harris, Isaiah

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Speaker 2: stand Back, I'm Kyle Yeomans. Good news is we all

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Speaker 2: survived the media party last night and we're here. But

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Speaker 2: the even better news is that we are here and

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Speaker 2: we're able to talk some cowboys today. Nick, that was

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Speaker 2: your first experience? Pretty good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty solid. Can't complain one bit.

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Speaker 2: Good food, good company, and of course a couple drinks

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Speaker 2: in there as well. We had a Miller Lite or

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Speaker 2: two while we were out there, so that was always

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun. But black rifle RTD right now,

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Speaker 2: that was exactly that's why we're here.

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Speaker 5: Can we have that request? Can we request listen here

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Speaker 5: black rifle to need y'all to send us something very.

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Speaker 2: Long for the first Isaiah stand back sponsors ready to drink.

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Speaker 5: If y'all don't know what RTD is, that's ready to drink.

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Speaker 5: That means it comes in a can. They sent us

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Speaker 5: some last year. Kyle, I think it would be perfect

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Speaker 5: if we had a shipment sitting down here camp.

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Speaker 2: So every morning we can have our RTD black rifle. Cough,

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Speaker 2: what'd you think?

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Speaker 4: I agree?

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Speaker 2: I agree? This is a thing. John just get used

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Speaker 2: to it every once in a while. Stand Back, He

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Speaker 2: just looked into the one shot camera and he just

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Speaker 2: decides to make a pitch to one of those sponsors.

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Speaker 2: Happened with Esselore, It happened with all the different sponsors

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Speaker 2: along the way. I don't even know if I can

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Speaker 2: say their name yet, but anymore, but quicker oats, it'll

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Speaker 2: happen at some point, Like yeah, it's always a he's

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Speaker 2: a pro. He is a pro. He's a pros pro

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Speaker 2: all right. H Like I said, two padded practices down,

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Speaker 2: I want to get first impressions on how they've looked,

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Speaker 2: how the team has looked through those two padded practices.

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Speaker 2: But first I want to do It's kind of like

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Speaker 2: news and notes for those that listened to the show

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Speaker 2: last year, I would give it to Patrick, and Patrick

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Speaker 2: will give news and notes. Before that, Rob was really

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Speaker 2: big on it. But I want to split it up.

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Speaker 2: I want everybody to give me one talking point. We

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Speaker 2: kind of did it on Monday, where it's one one

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Speaker 2: storyline that's really stuck out to you. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: call him talking points. I just have a better name

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Speaker 2: for it now since it is talking cowboys. But John,

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Speaker 2: I'll let you start it off. What's the number one

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Speaker 2: thing on your mind?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not gonna say that this should be

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Speaker 6: everybody's number one thing, but for me personally, it's really

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Speaker 6: been the offensive line and developing anybody behind that starting five.

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Speaker 6: I know we talked about it the other day, but

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Speaker 6: especially with Zach Martin not being out here, that's my

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Speaker 6: one area of concern is the depth of that offensive line,

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Speaker 6: because I do believe that if they can develop some

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Speaker 6: depth there that it can it can just fill a

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Speaker 7: Everything can click because of that.

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Speaker 6: So you know, kind of it's just tough out here

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Speaker 6: because they're going against a loaded defensive line, and so

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Speaker 6: it's you know, I want to come away from these

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Speaker 6: practices and share a bunch of stuff of like, no,

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Speaker 6: this guy did this, and the defensive line looks monstrous.

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Speaker 7: So it's like you, I'm.

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Speaker 6: Really looking forward to the preseason games to kind of gauge, Okay,

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Speaker 6: where are these some of these guys like Farniac and

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Nick on that regard.

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Speaker 4: On the offensive line regard, Yeah, the depth worries me

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Speaker 4: I think that's the only position group you could really

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Speaker 4: a concern in the depth, Isaiah, he.

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Speaker 2: Gives me the bubble, guts Coyle, Yeah, it gives me

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Speaker 5: You ever had like something that just doesn't sit right?

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Speaker 5: They're not settled. I've got that feeling right now. You

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Speaker 2: If you gotta see Kyle, just lean up on one side,

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Speaker 2: you'll know what it takes place.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's unsettling right now. And I am

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Speaker 5: not only just because of Zach Martin's absence, but also

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Speaker 5: because of the aspect of they're.

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Speaker 2: Just moving a lot of guys around.

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Speaker 5: And we get it, you know, you gotta protect Tiring,

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Speaker 5: We get it, Te Stills coming off of injury. You know,

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Speaker 5: we get it. Martin's not here. But like we, as

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Speaker 5: so just prevalent because we need to know what our

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Speaker 5: what's their game plan, because right now it doesn't feel

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Speaker 5: as if there is one, even though we know there

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Speaker 5: is it's it's it's like it's like a crap game

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Speaker 4: If you could point in any position group to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. In my mind, it would be offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Does it make you feel any better though? The fact

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Speaker 2: the other day, where's it's almost an iron sharpens iron

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Speaker 2: mentality where the offensive line, like John said, it's no

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Speaker 2: doubt like they're struggling, but they're going up against one

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no it does. They're gonna get great work.

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Speaker 6: And that's the other thing like a lot of people

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Speaker 6: the cheap to help out it guards. Yeah, that could

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Speaker 7: They want to be able to see.

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy wants to be able to see, like, what

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Speaker 6: are these guys capable of?

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Speaker 7: This is the time when you can see it.

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Speaker 6: Let's see if we can develop somebody right now, this

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Speaker 6: is the time to do it. So while we sit

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Speaker 6: to That is the plan exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I agree whole hardly on that.

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Speaker 5: I do believe that they have a game plan, and

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Speaker 5: they have a backup to the backup, and they have

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Speaker 5: really great talent? Absolutely? Defensive line is absolutely, they're They're

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Speaker 5: getting their butts kicked often, you know. So it's a

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Speaker 5: it's a give and take, you know, when they go

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Speaker 5: at the same time, I don't know how effectively these

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Speaker 5: they're getting smacked up left and right by his amazing

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Speaker 7: One thing I just want to add real quick on that.

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Speaker 6: It's also a part for me because there is changes

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Speaker 6: on offense with bringing in Brian Shinheimer, with Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 6: early to Dak. If I'm a coach, I don't want

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Speaker 2: When we were talking the other day about the West

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Speaker 2: simple on Dak post snap, does it make it harder

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Speaker 2: on Dak pre snap walking up to the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 2: especially whenever there is an added element of okay, let's

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Speaker 2: make sure I get blocked for this play. But is

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Speaker 2: there an added it just not not concerned, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say, But is there an added pressure on

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Speaker 2: him going up to the line of scrimmage to be

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Speaker 2: Had it been last year's system, I would say yes.

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Speaker 5: But being at the West Coast system is a quick release,

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Speaker 5: get the ball out of your hands quickly type of setting.

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Speaker 5: This office line isn't going to have to hold their

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Speaker 2: Usually.

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Speaker 5: You know, from a quarterbacks perspective, if I'm under the center,

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Speaker 5: it's three step game. Majority of this passing game is

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Speaker 5: three steps, three step game or play action. I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying there's not five and seven steps there is, but

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Speaker 5: majority of it is three steps.

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Speaker 2: Getting out your hands quickly.

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Speaker 5: Your receivers are getting about five to seven yards, your

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Speaker 2: You always have a short option.

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Speaker 5: You always have an intermediate option around ten to twelve yards,

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Speaker 2: That's your five step read. It's really gonna be like

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Speaker 5: So you have a three step read, you have a

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Speaker 4: Whenever you have a quick release game and a quick

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Speaker 4: Okay, whenever I buy the game, the new game every year,

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Speaker 2: You can get your foot like that. That's good. I mean,

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Speaker 4: That's what we're really hooping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're really a real big time all right.

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Speaker 2: So that's talking point number one. Nick, What was your

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Speaker 4: Running back two situation? You know, I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever you get the pads clack clicking and clacking

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I love Duce, do not get me wrong,

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Speaker 4: I I want to see him do that in the preseason,

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Speaker 7: But this bouncing off and spinning those great for the video, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Keep doing that, news, come.

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Speaker 6: Bring it in here, like all right, sweet, it's sweet, sweet,

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Speaker 2: Dak jumping over the line and getting two hand touched

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Speaker 4: I think me and Isaiah have talked about it. How

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Speaker 5: I think the running back situation, aside from the office

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Speaker 2: But the guys that have been here, those guys, those

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Speaker 5: Good, and I have full confidence in them, and I

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Speaker 6: It was interesting to hear Mike McCarthy after that one

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Speaker 7: And I'll be honest, I did not expect him to

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that happens or not, but you

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Speaker 4: What do you think the percentages Ezekiel Elliott suits up

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Speaker 6: you know, they're not looking to pay like a number one.

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Speaker 7: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This is just my assumption.

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Speaker 2: You're waiting for them to It's like what John was saying,

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Speaker 2: Would you want to see that, Isaiah, would you want

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think it'd be obviously great for him, great for

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Speaker 2: That that means something. So I don't really foresee that happening.

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Speaker 5: And plus, there's a lot of really great opportunities around

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Speaker 7: That is a great point.

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Speaker 6: It is so true because they haven't even played any

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Speaker 6: preseason games yet and there's just all I mean, that's

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Speaker 6: just the nature of the game. There's gonna be freak injuries,

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Speaker 6: it's like, Man, if you come in right now, you

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Speaker 6: how could you turn that down?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it could. I really don't guess. I

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Speaker 2: waiting for that opportunity to arise, whether that's in Dallas,

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Speaker 2: New England. Insert name here of an injury that's that

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Speaker 2: has yet to happen. But camp injuries happen, especially at

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Speaker 2: the running back position. Preseason injuries happen at the running

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Speaker 2: back position, So we may not even see that that

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Speaker 2: Of the preseason and then you finally get a full

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Speaker 2: Zeke going into this season. But all right, I like

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Speaker 2: the talking points overall. We got to We hit a

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Speaker 2: continue with first impressions of the padded practices, and I

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Speaker 2: Has anybody stood out, because there's one name that I'm

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Speaker 2: Fridays with Beamer's promising. We're gonna make that happen Friday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, say it with your chest Fridays. That's right,

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Speaker 2: So I gotta say it with your chest. Yes, all right,

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Speaker 2: speaking of saying it with your chest. TJ. Bass offensive lineman,

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Speaker 2: undrafted free agent out of Oregon. This is the kind

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Speaker 2: of in depth training camp coverage that you get on

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Speaker 2: Talking Cowboys talk about undrafted free agents. On the guard spot,

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Speaker 2: he's rotated in a couple of times. He did so

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Speaker 2: in a rookie mini camp where he was running with

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Speaker 2: the ones, at least the wrong ones of rookies. He

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Speaker 2: did so with OTAs and now he's starting to rotate

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Speaker 2: in at guard with not with no Zach Martin and

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Speaker 2: the rotating in and out with Josh Ball at the

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Speaker 2: right guard spot. Have you have you seen anything from TJ.

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Speaker 2: Bass and when he's brought to the table John and

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Speaker 2: and has he impressed you at all? I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: find a bright spot on the offensive line, and I

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Speaker 2: think he might be one of them.

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Speaker 6: I can't say that there's anything about him that necessarily

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Speaker 6: jumped out to me, but he was a guy that

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Speaker 6: when they signed him after their draft, nick Yeatman was

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Speaker 6: kind of making fun of me for this that I

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Speaker 6: went and got like a got him off to this,

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Speaker 6: I know, like in the lock from now the rookies

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Speaker 6: aren't in there yet, and I was like, oh, you know.

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Speaker 6: The pr SAF was like, is anybody else you want

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Speaker 6: to talk to that they're not bringing out? And I

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Speaker 6: was like, yeah, I kind of want to talk to

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Speaker 6: TJ just because the position he plays. He was a

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Speaker 6: guy that I want to say Dan Brugler might have

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Speaker 6: definitely a draftable. Maybe it might have been a fit. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And so because of that, he's been a guy that

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Speaker 6: I've kind of wanted to pay attention to. I just

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Speaker 6: I really haven't as much as I've wanted because of

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Speaker 6: In these first couple of Paddy practices, I feel like

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Speaker 6: more of my focus has been on the you know,

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Speaker 6: receivers and dbs and stuff like that. But yeah, I

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Speaker 6: mean obviously running with the ones is what is what

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Speaker 6: you want, and he's going to get every opportunity for that,

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Speaker 6: and you know, and talking to him, it was one

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Speaker 6: of those things where as you get later in the draft,

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Speaker 6: you're not getting drafted, so then you start getting calls

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Speaker 6: from teams and it's like, Okay, where do I fit?

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Speaker 7: What what team do I have the best chance to

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Speaker 7: get some playing time?

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Speaker 6: Your agent's talking to those teams and stuff like that,

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Speaker 6: and the Cowboys are obviously a good fit for him.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen a lot of TJ bass this week's specific,

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Speaker 4: in the lifelast week specifically, but I will say where

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Speaker 4: he comes from and the coaching that he comes from

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Speaker 4: leads me to have a lot of confidence in what

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Speaker 4: he can do. Alex Mirrabaal, who's his offensive line coach

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Speaker 4: that brought him into Oregon. He's now at Miami, and

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Speaker 4: we'll dive into you know, specific position coaches around draft

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Speaker 4: time and why those are so important. But Alex Mierbal

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Speaker 4: is the best offensive line coach in the entire country.

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Speaker 4: And for him to go into the JUCO ranks and

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Speaker 4: pull TJ. Bess out and make him a priority, that

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Speaker 4: says a lot about what he can do. And he

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Speaker 4: started immediately as soon as he got to Eugene so

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Speaker 4: you know, just having that in his background, even if

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Speaker 4: he did go undrafted, that leads me. That leads me

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Speaker 4: to a lot of confidence about what he can do.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody else in terms of the rookies? Has anybody

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Speaker 2: else jumped out off the page, whether it's offensive line

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Speaker 2: or not, just rookie class in general? Has anybody jumped

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Speaker 2: off the page from? For sure?

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Speaker 4: We can start with the duo of Jalen's and honestly

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Speaker 4: you could. You could trickle it down to the trio

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Speaker 4: of Jalen wide receivers that have just had a good

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Speaker 4: week in general. Yeah, but talking about the two rookies,

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Speaker 4: Jalen Brooks and then Jalen moreno Cropper, it was Jalen

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Speaker 4: moreno CROs more so last week and once the pads

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Speaker 4: got put on and we could be a little bit

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Speaker 4: more physical out here, it was Jalen Brooks and man,

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Speaker 4: he's been fantastic through cap and I'm sure we'll talk

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Speaker 4: about him a lot more in the show.

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Speaker 2: What do you think as a Yeah, Brooks is the

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Speaker 2: only one that really pops out for me right now.

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Speaker 5: I think he's he's shown up a few times. I

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Speaker 5: like his I like his release off the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 5: I like his ability to separate at the top of

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Speaker 5: the route. And then obviously with his size, he can

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Speaker 5: he has strong hands, and he has he's really strong

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Speaker 5: at the point of the catch.

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Speaker 2: And he's a good dude. I like him. You know,

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Speaker 2: listen to him talk, have my opportunity to kind of

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Speaker 2: talk to him a little bit. I like him. I

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Speaker 2: like him. How can a tall, lanky, wide receiver like

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Speaker 2: that one grow into his frame, because that's something that

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Speaker 2: that coach McCarthy and the offensive staff has talked about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of times he's he looks very,

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Speaker 2: very long. He's just kind of yeah, a little sloppy.

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Speaker 2: He's raw, let's say it that way. He's got this

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Speaker 2: raw talent. How does he grow into that? And then two,

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Speaker 2: how does his coaching staff unlock a inability in the

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Speaker 2: red zone to use him? Because he had one touchdown

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Speaker 2: grab his final year at South Carolina, he played the

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Speaker 2: entire season, had one touchdown grab. It was a twenty

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Speaker 2: yarder at Tennessee. That was it. That was the only

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Speaker 2: one he had. So how do you unlock that a

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Speaker 2: little bit by putting him in situations to be successful.

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Speaker 5: In the red zone, confidence and reps. Let him get

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Speaker 5: his reps, let him get confidence. I mean, from the

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Speaker 5: things I've seen him do over the last few days,

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Speaker 5: I don't see a reason why he wouldn't have success

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Speaker 5: at this level, regardless of what he did in college.

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Speaker 2: It's all about opportunity.

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Speaker 5: It's all about the situation that you put in, the

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Speaker 5: system that you're in, the person's throwing you the ball.

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Speaker 5: All those things matter, right everything. That's why I'm not

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Speaker 5: that affected. From what I've seen, he is a good

653
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 5: fit here. Nobody does what he does currently at that

654
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 5: position group, and they don't have anybody to fulfill that role.

655
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: MG is there gold guy? Really kind of sort of

656
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 5: right now, Cooks is gonna cook people this year. Just

657
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 5: system alone with him is nasty. CD's gonna do a

658
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 5: CD does, and they don't have a guy that they

659
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 5: really go up there and just say, hey, we're gonna

660
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 5: run you on a seven step post. It doesn't matter

661
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: of body up the guy and go grab it. And

662
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 5: that's who he is right now until somebody else shows

663
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 5: him up. So I look forward to seeing him in

664
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: the preseason.

665
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 4: He's starting to creep into that wide receiver conversation as

666
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: far as making the team and being on this travel roster.

667
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 4: When preseason comes around, that's when it's gonna be, Hey,

668
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 4: prove your keep on this roster and prove that you

669
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: can make it happen in a game as well.

670
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: And we've seen that happen a couple times out here. John,

671
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: I mean, think about Semi Fojoko is a great example

672
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: where in camp he looks great, he flashes, he's got

673
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: the size, he's got this ability, and then all of

674
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: a sudden, it just fizzles away. I don't want that

675
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: to happen to Jalen Brooks, but we've seen it a

676
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: couple times before. Do you think he can continue what

677
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: we've seen out here and whenever we get into preseason play? Yeah?

678
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: I do.

679
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 6: And I mean when I came out here, if I

680
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 6: was doing my wide receiver depth chart that I thought

681
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 6: would make the fifty three, he was not on it.

682
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 6: But after these last few days, I'm like, oh, yeah, no,

683
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 6: he's absolutely in that mix with you know, you mentioned Foko.

684
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 6: I think Jalen tulb it in a really good spot there,

685
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 6: and and Turpens really impressed me out here. Yeah, so

686
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: they're not gonna obviously keep seven wide receivers, so you

687
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 6: know there's gonna be an odd man out. But man,

688
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 6: if you told me right now, I had to cut

689
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 6: down that roster and it'd be tough to keep Dayalen

690
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 6: Brooks off of it.

691
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: There's a tough there's a tough decision in a couple number,

692
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: a couple positions, and there's there comes a time at

693
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: camp where you start playing that game, where you start

694
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: playing the cut game. You start looking at how many

695
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: defensive linemen are you gonna take. You're gonna want to

696
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: take ten eleven defensive linemen in general, and that includes

697
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: edge rushers. You're gonna want to take four or five linebackers.

698
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna want to take four safeties. But then where

699
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: do you where do you take? Where you cut down?

700
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: What position group do you have to level it out with?

701
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: And that's when it's gonna get interesting with wide receiver because,

702
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: like you said, there's no way they can take seven

703
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: with them, but there's gonna have to be six guys

704
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: that they're gonna have to cut it down to at

705
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: some point, and so an odd man out is certainly

706
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: gonna happen not only a wide receiver, but at a

707
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: couple positions. Isaiah, Yeah, a couple positions. But I'm keeping

708
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: in miye on the receiver position just because him.

709
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: I used to Jalen Brooks. Obviously all the battle of

710
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 5: the Jalen's right, he got all the Jalen's the trifecta,

711
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 5: but Jalen Brooks, specifically him versus Simmy Fooco. When I

712
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 5: look at the two of them, the difference aside from

713
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 5: the investment, the initial investment, Jalen Brooks seems more eager

714
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: to contribute on special teams, just just my observance, my observation,

715
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 5: he seems eager to actually go out there like and

716
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 5: we asked about specially he's like, oh yeah, Like give

717
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 5: me that. I didn't get that vibe from Simney when

718
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: he first came in nor last year. Not to say

719
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 5: that he wasn't willing, but there's something to be said

720
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: about knowing how you're going to impact this team, knowing

721
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 5: what's required to make this team, and then obviously being

722
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 5: able to be effective in those roles. They better get

723
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: their conditioning up because they're going to be all over

724
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 5: the place in preseason. They're going to be on the

725
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 5: field for three quarters and they're going to be on

726
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: special teams and at the receiver, so they're ready to

727
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 5: get their conditioning in. They're going to be asked to

728
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 5: not only have impact on offense, but also make impact

729
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: on especially because that's how you're gonna make this roster.

730
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 5: None of the receivers at the bottom of this roster

731
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 5: are going to just be offensive threats. You have four

732
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: receivers that are locked in. Called it how it is.

733
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 5: You got four guys that are locked in. You got CD,

734
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: you got Cooks, and you got Gallup and you got Turp.

735
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: Those guys are locked in those four, So you really

736
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 5: you could argue with with it being a third round pick.

737
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 5: Jaalen Tolbert's probably the fifth. Tobert's probably, I mean with

738
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 5: the camp that he's having yet he's he's they're gonna

739
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 5: give him another opportunity, so call it five.

740
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: So here's there's a battle for one spot.

741
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 5: Really unless something just goes horribly wrong for Jayling to watch,

742
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 5: I don't see right now, he's playing very confident.

743
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: It looks like a totally different player. He has the

744
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: leverage of being a top one pick. Time they're not

745
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: gonna cut ties like a top one hundred pick correct,

746
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: and so yeah, that's what's that's what gets weird because

747
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: we got we got to Oxnard and one of the

748
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: first topics was wide receiver four, who's got it? And

749
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: it feels like turping or not turping. It feels like

750
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: and I guess you could say turp and have that

751
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: wider first five or lock room kind of locked up.

752
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: But then it's now now the battleshifts to wide receiver six,

753
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: who is here whenever they make that trip. And that's

754
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: what people don't People don't understand how mentally stressful camp is.

755
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: Imagine being one of I don't know, I mean, guys

756
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: I got brought twelve guys I've received probably.

757
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 5: Imagine that camp and I haven't counted it up, and

758
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 5: knowing that you're you're all going after one spot. It's

759
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: the most stressful thing in the world. Every decision. If

760
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 5: I go out there, I mean, I don't remember what.

761
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: The tight end.

762
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: Yesterday there was a tight end. I got in there

763
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 5: and he got in with the ones and fall started.

764
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 5: Immediately taken out. It's a Princeton fan.

765
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: I think it might have been fat but immediately you're

766
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: taken out like that alone.

767
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 5: Will beat you up for the rest of the week

768
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 5: because like I lost the trust, they put me in

769
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: a situation I lost their trust. Now I'm gona have

770
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 5: to do ten positive things just to make up for

771
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 5: that one. That's what you're dealing with every single day

772
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: in terms of the stress of camp.

773
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: Man, you're litter. I better do this right, I better

774
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: do this right, and it makes it almost impossible to

775
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: just be you.

776
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 5: So it's not until the preseason games really show up

777
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 5: that you see the real version of these players. Camp

778
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 5: is awesome, but when they get to the games, that's

779
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: when they can literally relax and be Okay, now I

780
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: could play again, right, And even then you're still under

781
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 5: so much to risk.

782
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: But people need to understand the stresses man of camp.

783
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 6: It it's hard, and I think that's going on in

784
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: every camp every year, but for this team particularly, like

785
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 6: for me, it's This is clearly the best roster the

786
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 6: Cowboys have had since I've covered the team from top

787
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 6: to bottom. Like McCarthy said the other day, it's gonna

788
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 6: be the hard It's gonna be a very difficult fifty

789
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 6: three cut. There's just so many spots that already locked

790
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 6: up that there's so many guys in those positions, Like

791
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 6: you're saying that, it's like, yeah, you make one mistake

792
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 6: like that, and you're just like, man, is that the

793
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 6: difference of me making an NFL team? Am I gonna

794
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 6: get another chance? Am I gonna get an opportunity maybe

795
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 6: with another team? Who knows what happens here? Because yeah,

796
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 6: this roster isn't that, Like you know, we talked earlier,

797
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 6: there'll be injuries and they'll shift things as well. But

798
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 6: as it's since here right now, like you know, I mean,

799
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 6: obviously there were some good teams in four teen and

800
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 6: sixteen and stuff like that, but they were not as

801
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 6: good from top to bottom. There were some weaknesses there,

802
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 6: and they've done a good job of shoring up those

803
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 6: areas to their Just isn't when I look at this

804
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 6: roster there's this isn't all those spots, Oh, this guy

805
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 6: might make it in special teams, this guy might help

806
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 6: it out here, Like, there's just not that many spots available, man.

807
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: And even so you're it's it's interesting hearing the different

808
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: viewpoints because you're you're seeing this from an outside source,

809
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: a beat Ryder working for the athletic, but you could

810
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: hear the stress in your voice because hey, they have

811
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: this this roster, they have this opportunity to make this jump,

812
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: and you want to you don't want to be left behind.

813
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: I could hear the stress in Isaiah's voice as a

814
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: former player on the other side of it too, of

815
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: feeling that stress going to sleep at night and you

816
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: don't want to put your your iPad away because you

817
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: want to look at the next couple of plays, and

818
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: because you want to end up in the right situation

819
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: at the right time. And and you mentioned how it

820
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 2: beats yourself up for certain things, little things that you think,

821
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: little mistakes that add up, and then that break that

822
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: trust between you and the coaching staff, and how it

823
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: bothers these guys for days. I could tell you've you've

824
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: got a couple of those those memories as well.

825
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: There's one play that I remember when I was with

826
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 5: Seattle and I was up to obviously a contract year,

827
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 5: all this kind of stuff, and I was coming actually

828
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 5: the following year, I was coming off of injury, and

829
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 5: they put me in a situation in practice where they

830
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 5: were looking for one guy to fill a role in

831
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 5: terms of big plays, and they put me in for

832
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 5: that play, and I freaking dropped the ball. I dropped it,

833
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 5: and I knew when I dropped it, I was like, damn,

834
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 5: that was it? Like that was that was the If

835
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: I make that play, I'm their guy, you know, if.

836
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 7: I given a chance, if you were given a hundred

837
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 7: chances to make that play, man.

838
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: And nine times you make that Yeah wow. So I

839
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: mean but you but you know, like in your heart,

840
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: and then you're you're you're thinking over what could have

841
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: done differently? What did I do wrong?

842
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 5: What what would I change? And then it messages you

843
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: up for another play, and then it's snowballs. Right then

844
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 5: you start seeing guys that used to be confident. I mean,

845
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 5: there's there's guys I'm not gonna name their names right now.

846
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 5: There's guys that you that we saw last year playing

847
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: with full confidence, that were walking around with their head

848
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 5: down right now because the situations at their end right

849
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 5: and you can see it on their face like they're stressing.

850
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 5: I know it right from the player staff, I'm like,

851
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: they're in their own head. He kind of wants you

852
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: to say that, No, no, you don't want to say, well.

853
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 7: I can just tell you when he was saying that

854
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 7: I'm thinking of from last year.

855
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 6: I'm thinking of Jalen Tolbert, which just like you know,

856
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 6: you come here and then Mike McCarthy wants you to

857
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 6: play all three wide receiver spots and that was a lot.

858
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 6: And he admitted that, you know, and I think it

859
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 6: was after Ota practice one time in his locker room

860
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: and his locker about how there was just a lot.

861
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 11: You know.

862
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 6: And then I keep going back to you know, that

863
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 6: play in Green Bay where you know, he lines up

864
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 6: off sides and just like just you know, that just

865
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 6: gonna beat you down, and that's going to weigh on you,

866
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 6: like you know, I'm finally giving this opportunity, and this happens,

867
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Speaker 6: and like you just said, like it's snowballs until where

868
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Speaker 6: like now it starts affecting you here, it affects you

869
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Speaker 6: in this in this part of the game and you know,

870
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Speaker 6: your preparation things like that. And so I do think

871
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Speaker 6: that because of him having that experience, he gets to

872
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Speaker 6: go in the off season, you know, work with Dad,

873
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Speaker 6: getting the playbook and everything.

874
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 7: Like that, and have a chance to rebound from it.

875
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 7: But yeah, there's that that is a great point.

876
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Speaker 4: Talking about the mental adversity aspect. If we're looking at

877
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: all the guys that are vying for this last receiver spot.

878
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Speaker 4: I like Jalen Brooks even more because of his the

879
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: way he's approaching everything. He's like, look, yeah, I've had

880
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: great days, but it's brick by brick. I gotta stack it.

881
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: I don't get too high, I don't get too low.

882
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: I'm very level headed. That's what he said a couple

883
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Speaker 4: days ago when I pulled him off one on one,

884
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Speaker 4: and that's what he said again yesterday whenever we had

885
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Speaker 4: him in media availability. So being able to have that mindset,

886
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Speaker 4: I think is going to be what eventually helps in

887
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Speaker 4: those situations.

888
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 2: I like him. Thirteen receivers out here right now, thirteen

889
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: of them, and I feel like all of them have

890
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: made some sort of storyline or headline at some point

891
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Speaker 2: along the way.

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Speaker 6: When you say that, all I think of is, Okay,

893
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Speaker 6: I wonder what the NFL record is of, like what

894
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 6: on cut day? Because what's the most receivers the team's

895
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 6: ever kept? Like, is there been a team that kept

896
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 6: me like seven?

897
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Speaker 2: Eight receivers? You would know of? Yeah, you would have to.

898
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: There's got to stretch at other positions that's the thing.

899
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Speaker 5: There are eight guys going for one spot and people

900
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: I don't think people get it, you know what I'm saying.

901
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: I really don't think people would get it. There's eight

902
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: guys that that particularly, just that position group going for

903
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: one spot. There's guys out here there busting their butts

904
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: every single day giving it their absolutely one. They know

905
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Speaker 2: they have zero chance of making this roster.

906
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Speaker 4: And it's so competitive because let's say Jalen Brooks has

907
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Speaker 4: a day Thursday and Saturday, he doesn't have a great day. Yeah,

908
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: he was right back there, you know, and the door

909
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: doors right back open.

910
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Speaker 6: Like you said, things with the wide receiver is a

911
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 6: position that we all can watch watching. Yeah, Like, and

912
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Speaker 6: it's just if you mess up, like you talk about

913
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Speaker 6: dropping that pass, like everybody sees it. Like whereas if

914
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Speaker 6: you miss like a block, you got some other guys

915
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 6: people try a bit, they throw to you and you

916
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 6: drop that past or whatever like that, you just feel

917
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 6: like every single eyeball is on you.

918
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can go back to even last year

919
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: in camp, Will Greer was almost a backup. No, yeah,

920
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: people don't. People don't remember that, Like Will Greer was

921
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: almost a backup. He had a better camp. He had

922
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Speaker 2: a better camp, and an injury happened, right, an injury happened.

923
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Speaker 2: Because that injury happened. Now all of a sudden, you

924
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Speaker 2: looking at a Cooper Us who has a brand new contract. Yeah,

925
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: there are some days out here, you know what I'm saying,

926
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Speaker 2: Like the stuff turns.

927
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there are some days out here in twenty

928
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Speaker 6: sixteen where Jamil Showers had a better day than Dak Prescott. Yeah,

929
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Speaker 6: it's crazy to think about now, you know that. And

930
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Speaker 6: then Kellen goes down and just the way that whole

931
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Speaker 6: thing came together and just how fast that moved. And

932
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Speaker 6: that's at the you know, the most important position.

933
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Speaker 2: So the NFL moves quickly, Yes, and it waits for nobody. Nope,

934
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Speaker 2: that's that's ultimately what it is. You you better keep

935
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Speaker 2: up or get out of the way. And that's that's

936
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Speaker 2: how it goes. All right. When we come back one

937
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Speaker 2: final segment, it's gonna be a short one. We went

938
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Speaker 2: a little long this time, sorry, Beamer, but we'll uh,

939
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Speaker 2: we'll wrap things up and we'll talk a little defensive

940
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941
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Speaker 2: The artie. It's not an RTG. I guess what would

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Speaker 7: How many times is this an everyday thing?

997
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you don't love it? I mean, I

998
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Speaker 2: love quicker.

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Speaker 7: I can't eat breakfast. I just in that hunger the morning.

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Speaker 2: What's the most important meal?

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Speaker 6: Now?

1002
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Speaker 2: I know? I don't eat. What time did you eat

1003
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: last night?

1004
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Speaker 7: I ate at that that media party? Eight or nine?

1005
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Speaker 5: Okay, eight o'clock right now, it's right now, it's what

1006
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 5: about to be ten o'clock, close to ten o'clock.

1007
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So for the last fourteen hours?

1008
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Speaker 5: Yeah, your body has nothing to eat off it's got

1009
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Speaker 5: some water fourteen hours.

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Speaker 2: That's why breakfast is the most important middle of the day.

1011
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: Get your quick guns. All right, ps at it.

1012
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 7: That's pretty good.

1013
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Speaker 4: He's a sponsor's dream, he really is.

1014
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: It's it's annoying. Oh back here with Isaiah stand back

1015
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: the walking. We've got Nick Harris, We've got John Mitchowda.

1016
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Speaker 2: I'm kylei Yeowens wrapping things up here on Talking Cowboys.

1017
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Speaker 2: And I mean the stress level is high for a

1018
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: lot of these guys at camp and thirteen wide receivers

1019
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: going down to six. Think about defensive line, and I

1020
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: brought it up a little bit in the last segment.

1021
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Speaker 2: Where do you where do you draw the line? And

1022
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Speaker 2: there's some big names that are gonna be cut at

1023
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Speaker 2: some point and big bodies that are gonna get cut.

1024
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Speaker 2: You think about a guy like Neville Gallimore, who was

1025
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Speaker 2: a third round pick. He is fighting for a spot

1026
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Speaker 2: on the roster with Mazzi Spith in front of him,

1027
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Hankins in front of him, and I think Gallimore

1028
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Speaker 2: has actually had a solidified camp. I think he's done

1029
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Speaker 2: a decent job in the middle. He's provided a little

1030
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Speaker 2: bit of pass rush. But as as anybody else stood

1031
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Speaker 2: out to you on that defensive line as stepping up

1032
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Speaker 2: to try and fight for one of those rosters posts

1033
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's obviously been the guys that you're expecting

1035
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Speaker 6: to sure have been wrecking shot. But yeah, when I

1036
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Speaker 6: look at the roster, I'm like, man, it's gonna be

1037
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Speaker 6: tough for them to keep more than ten defensive linemen.

1038
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Speaker 6: And when I say ten, I'm counting my with that,

1039
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Speaker 6: even though on the roster they listen to Yeah right,

1040
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Speaker 6: So yeah, So I like, like, Neville Gallimore is a

1041
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Speaker 6: guy like you mentioned Bohanna, and then obviously that Chauncey

1042
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Speaker 6: Golston slash Fajoko where they kind of play somewhat of

1043
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 6: a similar hybrid. I do think there's a good chance

1044
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Speaker 6: that both of them make it. But I'm just saying, like,

1045
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Speaker 6: it's that is a tough spot when you look at

1046
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Speaker 6: from top to bottom if everyone stays healthy, because that's

1047
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Speaker 6: always the thing. Like you look at this and we

1048
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 6: go into it and it's, oh, yeah, no, that's because

1049
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Speaker 6: they're gonna have everybody. And then you get out here

1050
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Speaker 6: and you know Sam Williams is missing some time, and

1051
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Speaker 6: then Dorian's Armstrong isn't and then so you start moving

1052
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Speaker 6: some pieces around and things like that.

1053
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Speaker 7: But man, you look at that from top to bottom.

1054
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Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy said it yesterday.

1055
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Speaker 6: That's the this is the best depth he's had a

1056
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Speaker 6: defensive line in his coaching career. So I just find

1057
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Speaker 6: it hard to believe that they could go more than eleven.

1058
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Speaker 6: And I even think that that's gonna be tough.

1059
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And we've talked about it a little bit, and

1060
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Speaker 4: I guess it's kind of throwing a wrench into this

1061
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: conversation a little bit. But it's so deep on that

1062
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Speaker 4: defensive line. Do you consider trading somebody out some point.

1063
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Speaker 7: That has to be on the table.

1064
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Speaker 2: We said this last year. They should have did it

1065
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Speaker 2: last year.

1066
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Speaker 4: The opportunity is still there to get offensive line deaf.

1067
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Speaker 2: Or running back. I'm not offensive line or running back.

1068
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna name names, but there are a

1069
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Speaker 4: couple of guys on on that defensive line that their

1070
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Speaker 4: max value is right now, and go ahead and get

1071
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Speaker 4: a piece off of them. But you know, we'll see.

1072
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Speaker 2: Do you think it's more likely that they go and

1073
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Speaker 2: sign somebody at one of these positions if need, or

1074
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Speaker 2: is it more likely that they use a surplus like

1075
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Speaker 2: defensive line. Maybe some of these young linebackers that probably

1076
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't get into the to the mix. Do you think

1077
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: it's more likely that they trade to go get a

1078
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Speaker 2: piece to help out some of these positions. I'm hope.

1079
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Speaker 5: I understand when I say I want to be empathetic

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Speaker 5: to guys, because it is guys' lives when they have

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Speaker 5: to get up and move. Okay, but it's a business.

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Speaker 5: I feel as if Dallas missed an opportunity last year

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Speaker 5: to be aggressive and trade away some of their defensive

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Speaker 5: line assets.

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Speaker 2: I truly do.

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Speaker 5: I think they could have filled some gaps last year

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00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 5: having that surplus of assets. This year, it's no different,

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Speaker 5: except for the fact they've added two more guys in

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Speaker 5: the draft this year.

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Speaker 2: So you have two guys that history says they're going

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Speaker 2: to be on a roster.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, that's Fajoko in Massi Smith, all right,

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Speaker 5: So those guys are gonna be on the roster.

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Speaker 2: They're there.

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Speaker 5: So you add two more guys to a depth chart

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Speaker 5: that was already stacked. I almost think it's as aggressive

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Speaker 5: as this front office has been this offseason and acquiring

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Speaker 5: pieces that are going to be instrumental to their success

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Speaker 5: this year. I think that they won't. I think they

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Speaker 5: had to have to learned from their previous mistakes, I eat,

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Speaker 5: mistakes from last year.

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Speaker 2: Not trading.

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Speaker 5: I think they take that step this year and they

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Speaker 5: be aggressive and they trade now. I believe that they'll

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Speaker 5: allow a preseason game to go by just to remind

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Speaker 5: everybody how valuable some of these guys are, because it's

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Speaker 5: going to be highly competitive at that position once you

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Speaker 5: see how successful they are.

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Speaker 2: I think that a lot of guys are going to

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Speaker 2: be on that trading block.

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Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be packaged up and sent off

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Speaker 5: most likely to acquire some assets that are are of need.

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00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 5: Because Dallas has a couple week spots. I mean, their

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00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 5: armors dog on bullet almost bulletproof at this point. In

1115
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 5: terms of their roster, the way the roster has made up,

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00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 5: it's a couple of saw spots, right. If you have

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00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 5: an ability to take some of those those hardened spots

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00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 5: right and fill those gaps all of a sudden, all

1119
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you got a Captain American shoot.

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Speaker 6: When you were saying that, the first thing I was

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Speaker 6: thinking I was in twenty eighteen, they kind of had

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Speaker 6: they kind of felt good about a few of their

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00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 6: DB's not starters, but on their depth, and it was

1124
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 6: Charvarius Ward, and at the end of twenty eighteen they

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Speaker 6: traded him. They did that for that Parker and then Jury.

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Speaker 6: I want to make sure I got it right. From

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00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 6: Kansas City. They didn't get much out of Energy at all,

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Speaker 6: and then Ward ended up.

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Speaker 7: Being pretty good.

1130
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Speaker 6: So i'saw, I'm just saying, like, I'm just thinking of

1131
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 6: them trading somebody, and what will happen is like they'll

1132
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 6: end up getting in a spot where they're on a

1133
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 6: team that doesn't have a lot of great defensive line depths,

1134
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 6: and then they kind of play well and then you

1135
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 6: got to hear about it, Like for.

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Speaker 2: The ever, you know what happen about John Ridgway last

1137
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: I was yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean he was a

1138
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: draft pick and basically he got plucked off of the

1139
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: practice squad rostered by Washington. All of a sudden, he

1140
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: was stuffing the run against you. Yeah. A couple of

1141
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 2: weeks later, I mean he was playing against you. Yeah,

1142
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: And I mean you could tell you.

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Speaker 6: I will say though, I mean as we sit her

1144
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 6: today though, like if he's still on this team right now,

1145
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 6: I mean he's in with that group, You're just like

1146
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 6: they're stacked.

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Speaker 5: And that's that's the reason why the whole conversation is here, right,

1148
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 5: It's just you have a surplus of assets, so use

1149
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 5: them to get what you need to stir up your team.

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00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, you didn't get anything out of rich Way.

1151
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: Nothing at all, you know, yikes.

1152
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 5: And he gave you, gave up money, He gave up

1153
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 5: money to get him, and you got nothing for him.

1154
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm saying, learning from their mistakes of

1155
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 5: the past, what I consider mistakes of the past, and

1156
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 5: aggressive as they've been this year, to go out there

1157
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 5: and get Cooks, to get Gilmore to be in the

1158
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 5: front office like they're they're they're not sitting back and

1159
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: waiting and getting the leftovers like they have in recent years.

1160
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 2: Stay aggressive, keep that energy.

1161
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Speaker 6: Also with that Macarthy said the other day about that's

1162
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: part of the reason that they didn't they're not scrimmaging

1163
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 6: or practicing against another team is because he just wants

1164
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 6: to really see this first team go against you know,

1165
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 6: their first team offense, first team defense.

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Speaker 7: Because of how loaded you know, this pro competition.

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00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can beat each other up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, leads to fights and things like that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, always it got a little chippy yesterday, it

1170
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: was it was There's been a lot of competition. They

1171
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: had a lot of one on ones, they had a

1172
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Speaker 2: lot of seven on seven works, So of course with

1173
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: the competition ramping up, the chippiness ensued. So for sure,

1174
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: got to keep everybody separated. You got to keep everybody

1175
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: having having a productive session. That's the one thing you

1176
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Speaker 2: want to avoid. But it's been good and I think

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Speaker 2: the camp energy is high. I mean they're taking the

1178
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: field behind us and going through some walkthroughs, and I

1179
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: think the more that we get into this camp, the

1180
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: more we're gonna see that competition ramp up and we're

1181
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: gonna see these guys really fall into roles, because then

1182
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: it turns from a hope to a worry to a concern.

1183
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: Now then it's a it's a desperation as camp goes along.

1184
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: For sure, if you get here, you get off the charter.

1185
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks for making the making the tea right, and

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00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: that's all of a sudden, you're not. And that's when

1187
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Speaker 2: that's when things can think it's really a little bit wild.

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Speaker 2: And that's when these next couple padded practices are really

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Speaker 2: going to tell us who this team is and how

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Speaker 2: they're going to be built. But that's going to do

1191
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Speaker 2: it for us. We're a little out of time. I

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Speaker 2: feel like we could keep ying. I got all day

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Speaker 2: Forcasta for the hour. But good news, we'll be back

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Speaker 2: on Friday. We got one more show this week. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk on Friday. We'll have another padded practices to pat

1196
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Speaker 2: practice to go off of on Thursday, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: keep on rolling going into week number three here in

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Speaker 2: ox Stars. For you guys, it'll be a game week

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Speaker 2: at that point. By the way, Talking Cowboys is going

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Speaker 2: to be well represented on that first preseason game. Isaiah

1201
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Speaker 2: Standback is going to be in the booth. You nervous, nervous,

1202
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: don't have to get ready. There you go. Isaiah is

1203
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Speaker 2: in the booth for all three preseason games, all three

1204
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Speaker 2: of them. So he'll he'll be with myself and Bill

1205
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Speaker 2: Jones for the first one, and then it'll be the

1206
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Speaker 2: same booth, but flipping roles. I'll do play by play

1207
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Speaker 2: for the first one, uh color for the second one,

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Speaker 2: so it will flip roles and then the third one.

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Speaker 2: Michael Irvin is one guy that played wide receiver here.

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Speaker 2: At some point he comes in kicks me out of

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Speaker 2: the booth. It's okay, it's fine. I'll make it work.

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Speaker 2: So it'll be Bill, Michael and Isaiah for that third

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Speaker 2: preseason game. So really excited about that. We'll come. Gonna

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Speaker 2: be fun, but it is. We got one more show

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Speaker 2: then it's game week. Here on Talking Cowboys for Ja Machoda,

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Speaker 2: Nick Harris, Isaiah's standback for Chris being behind the camera.

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Speaker 2: I'm Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you on Friday

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Speaker 2: with more Talking Cowboys.

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