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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us as we are believe it or not, eight days

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Speaker 1: until Thanksgiving. It's also been eight days since the midterm elections.

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Speaker 1: Many places have started to officially call the House for Republicans.

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Speaker 1: We feel very confident based on the numbers that that

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Speaker 1: is the case. Just depends on where you are looking

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Speaker 1: right now as to whether that is going to be

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Speaker 1: officially called. We have got a lot to discuss throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of today's program. But of course, the number

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Speaker 1: one story from last night was Donald Trump, as he

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Speaker 1: told you he would do last week on this program,

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Speaker 1: officially announcing that he's going to run for president in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And we will go ahead and play

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Speaker 1: the audio of that official announcement last night from our lago.

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Speaker 1: Here is what it sounds like. In order to make

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Speaker 1: America great and glorious again, I am tonight announcing my

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Speaker 1: candidacy for president of the United States. All right, So, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I watched the entire speech as it were. They carried

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Speaker 1: much of it live on Fox News during Sean Hannity's show.

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Speaker 1: They cut in and out a couple of times to

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Speaker 1: allow people to react. I guess what maybe stood out

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Speaker 1: the most to me about the entire address. It was

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Speaker 1: very subdued, relatively speaking for Donald Trump felt also as

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Speaker 1: a result, very presidential. And he played a lot of

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Speaker 1: the greatest hits from his twenty sixteen campaign as a

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Speaker 1: part of this announcement. And also I think one reason

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Speaker 1: even remember when Trump attacked Glenn Yunkin, when he attacked

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Speaker 1: on the scantists, when he went after a lot of

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Speaker 1: different people with all of those statements. I think that

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Speaker 1: that was generally not received very well. And so the

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Speaker 1: argument is out there, and I think he followed basically

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Speaker 1: what we said on this program. Hey, it's got to

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Speaker 1: be a forward looking campaign. The thing that he said

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Speaker 1: and I think he got this one hundred percent correct,

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Speaker 1: and I wish more Republicans would be saying it. He

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Speaker 1: said one of the first things that he would do

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Speaker 1: when he came into office is to bring back everybody

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Speaker 1: who lost their jobs in the military over the COVID

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Speaker 1: shot requirements. He would end all Biden vaccine mandates, and

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Speaker 1: he would give back pay to all of those soldiers

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Speaker 1: who lost their jobs over the COVID shot. Thank god,

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Speaker 1: somebody is finally saying that. That's what jumped out the

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Speaker 1: most to me about the entire address. What about you, Buck,

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Speaker 1: what stood out to you? Anything surprise you? How would

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Speaker 1: you assess the overall announcement itself? So much interesting stuff

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Speaker 1: happening here when you get in this early, this far

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Speaker 1: ahead of anyone else who may run, And keep in

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Speaker 1: mind there will be people who may decide to run

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Speaker 1: who have no chance at all, but they use it

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Speaker 1: as a chance to get their name out there and

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Speaker 1: sell books. You know, somebody who's kind of more of

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Speaker 1: Trump is in super early, and this is going to

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Speaker 1: create I think some advantages and some challenges. One thing

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Speaker 1: that does seem that that's I think stuck out to

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Speaker 1: everybody last night, and I watched the whole thing live too,

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Speaker 1: was that Trump was very clearly trying to take a

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Speaker 1: common presidential tone throughout. It wasn't you know, rock'em sock'em

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Speaker 1: intentionally presidential tone. I think the decision not to talk

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Speaker 1: any confusion about that from a pure tactical perspective, never

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Speaker 1: mind anything else that's not going to work. And we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have our friend a Ryan ger Dusky joining us

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Speaker 1: in the second hour today the program, who is a

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Speaker 1: political consultant. All he does is look at the polling,

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Speaker 1: the exit polling, the data, the numbers, the races, and

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Speaker 1: we'll break down some of the good, the bad, and

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Speaker 1: the and the ugly from this election. There was some

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Speaker 1: good which you want to focus on as well. It

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Speaker 1: is in fact possible that today during the show, we

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Speaker 1: I mean it's basically the House is GOP now right,

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Speaker 1: evolution of Trump in his campaign that will occur. That's

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Speaker 1: least more. The de facto leader of the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: So we got to see, man, I mean, I want

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Speaker 1: The guy pulled off something of a political miracle, it

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Speaker 1: seems in twenty sixteen. He was a really great president

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Speaker 1: so many things. But the game has changed a lot,

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Speaker 1: how it all stacks up. So I'm enthusiastic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that this is This is the trajectory right

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Speaker 1: We all know it should have been better than what

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Speaker 1: by the way than Clay and I. I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: sitting here, we're furious for dayous about how this thing went.

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Speaker 1: But now we understand how it went that way, and

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Speaker 1: I think that Trump may be able to galvanize Republicans

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Speaker 1: Republicans end up doing. But for Trump to be in

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Speaker 1: if he is indicted now, it's very easy for Trump

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Speaker 1: think about it a little bit counterintuitively, that Democrats are

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Speaker 1: But the indictment of Trump, which we believe would focus

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Speaker 1: And can we just we're going down the rabbit hole here,

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Speaker 1: we're taking We're taking a drive through crazytown. So everyone

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Speaker 1: needs to understand that. Remember, the media spent three years,

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Speaker 1: I mean the fourth year was really more COVID obviously

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Speaker 1: people that say, well, you know, the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 1: which it's completely fair to point that out. That is true.

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Speaker 1: But they're out of their minds, is my point. Like

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Speaker 1: John Fetterman, as we know in Pennsylvania. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: So you know you're saying if they indict him, the

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Speaker 1: optics strengthen him. I say that's true. But if they

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Speaker 1: So if they bring him in the spring of twenty three, buck,

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Speaker 1: he could already be the nominee. You know by March

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Speaker 1: But then we get back to you, also, does it

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Speaker 1: you think they will. We'll see. But if they bring charges,

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Speaker 1: it certainly goes to the narrative of the swamp the

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Speaker 1: able to react to what you thought of Donald Trump's announcement. Unprecedented,

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Speaker 1: this point, Clay, I can't. I can't reveal this worst

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Speaker 1: say that Glenn Yunkin beats him, people decide out there

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Speaker 1: want Donald Trump to answer, and I think it's important,

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Speaker 1: is if you were not the nominee, will you pledge

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Speaker 1: And also I think that would reflect really poorly on Trump.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would do that, but I'd like

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Speaker 1: for him to answer that question. When there are going

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you like to hear the answer to that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have people that write in listen to

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Speaker 1: so we shall see that said. It is Trump's Republican

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Speaker 1: Hillsdale dot Com. Welcome back in our number three Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us as we are continuing to unpack the results

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty two mid term. Ryan Gurduski was

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis. You can search out Buck Sexton. Okay. A

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Speaker 1: couple of different things that are going on. As the

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Speaker 1: Trump announcement quite presidential, and when the criticisms that rain down,

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Speaker 1: I think that's actually good for Trump because it was

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Speaker 1: about what happened in twenty twenty, it is a loser

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Speaker 1: is somehow when you mentioned this, it's like an unacceptable

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Speaker 1: is Republicans may have gone so left wing in their

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Speaker 1: And so let's play that audio. Buck. I don't know

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Speaker 1: people I know right now are yelling it's thirty billion.

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Speaker 1: That's not happening. The welfare state here has gotten so

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Speaker 1: This is not passing judgment on people if you were

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Speaker 1: It's twenty plus, folks. But beyond that, we take a

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Speaker 1: those services. Clay, this is going to be a big

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Speaker 1: issue going forward because Democrats want amnesty. They've wanted it

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Speaker 1: How quickly do you think the Democrat argument for amnesty

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Speaker 1: would vanish? Right? Because what's interesting is, and Trump talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit in his speech last night, Buck.

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Speaker 1: Because Trump was great on the border, I mean twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: he may well have won the election because of how

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Speaker 1: good he was on the border. And you know what

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Speaker 1: they said was all the grand poobas in the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party they said, Hey, the way to win the Hispanic

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Speaker 1: vote is actually to support more amnesty, more granting of citizenship,

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Speaker 1: everything else, Right, but the reverse ended of being true.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is such an interesting angle to

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Speaker 1: think about. People who have come across the border more

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Speaker 1: than anyone or live near the border understand how violent

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Speaker 1: and criminal ridden the border is on Mexico. I mean

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Speaker 1: the number that it is out there that is staggering.

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Speaker 1: The cartels make more money shipping illegal immigrants into our

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Speaker 1: country than any American pro sports league makes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just as big as the NFL is, right, as big

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Speaker 1: of a business as it is, as big as those

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Speaker 1: thirty two franchises are. The cartels make more money bringing

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Speaker 1: people illegally into our country than the NFL, Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 1: the NBA. I mean, that is a staggering size of

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Speaker 1: the market. And people who live and understand the power

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Speaker 1: of those cartels actually overwhelmingly support a strong, secure southern border.

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Speaker 1: It's all tied in the human trafficking, the Fentinel debts,

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Speaker 1: the massive, massive criminality that is going on at the

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Speaker 1: southern border because of overwhelmed border patrol, the lack of

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Speaker 1: will political will to change the incentives for coming into

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Speaker 1: the country illegally. It all ties together, and it also

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Speaker 1: goes to rule of law because we're being told and

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Speaker 1: this comes at a time when it was you know,

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Speaker 1: get the shot, or you get fired, mask up, or

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Speaker 1: you get fired, pay your time, actors, or you go

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Speaker 1: to prison. Stand too long in a government building, even

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Speaker 1: if you do nothing else, and it happens to be

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Speaker 1: during a riot, and you might go to prison for

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Speaker 1: many years. I mean, the law is the law according

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Speaker 1: to Democrats, except on this issue and a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of other issues. I just mean politically, they pick and

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Speaker 1: choose where they decide. That's what's written in the Statute

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Speaker 1: on illegal immigration. All of a sudden, that all goes

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Speaker 1: out the window. But I would note that there's there's

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Speaker 1: some deja vu here because back in twenty thirteen, there

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Speaker 1: was the Gang of Eight pushing Mark Rubio was a

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Speaker 1: part of that one. The Gang of Eight was pushing

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Speaker 1: for the Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act amnesty.

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Speaker 1: This was a conveyor belt to amnesty, and it was

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Speaker 1: only the American people basically calling up and lighten up

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Speaker 1: the switchboards and pushing back furiously on this because it

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Speaker 1: also goes against a sense of fairness. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot of immigrants that listen to this show, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we could take calls for a whole hour, just

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Speaker 1: some people saying, hold on a second. You know, I

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Speaker 1: came here legally when the family stood in law, spent

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Speaker 1: years to be able to come here, and and now

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Speaker 1: we got people who are I mean, they're just walking

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Speaker 1: across the border knowing with one hundred certainty they're going

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Speaker 1: to be led into the country, and so they're going

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Speaker 1: to have and they're never gonna have to leave. That's

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Speaker 1: the reality. And so you say to yourself, well, how

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Speaker 1: does this how do we say we're a country with

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Speaker 1: rule of law and sovereignty as a nation with what's

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Speaker 1: going on at the border right now. And I think

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Speaker 1: I do think that there's a lot of frustration in

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Speaker 1: many communities, not just along the borders that's Texas, Arizona, etc.

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Speaker 1: But also in a lot of cities and even smaller

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Speaker 1: size cities with this the poisoning of our of our neighbors,

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Speaker 1: our friends, our co workers, our family members of fentanyl

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Speaker 1: that is going on. Yeah, this stuff is I mean,

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Speaker 1: fentanyl is more addictive, far more addictive, and far more

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Speaker 1: lethal than the other drug menaces we have generally faced.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not even close. Look at the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers speak for themselves. You can die

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Speaker 1: the first time you take it, which is something I

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Speaker 1: think parents and grandparents need to be telling their kids.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is not some sort of joy ride

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Speaker 1: fun like I'm going to try out this drug. You

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Speaker 1: literally can die the first time that you take it.

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Speaker 1: And here we are. The Biden administration knows all of this,

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Speaker 1: but is very ideologically devoted to allowing the continued flagrant

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Speaker 1: violation of our sovereignty and of our laws at the

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Speaker 1: border because, yes, Clay, they think it will help them

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Speaker 1: with the Hispanic community. Although that's that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's wrong. A lot of legal

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Speaker 1: Hispanic immigrants are saying, hold on, hold on a second.

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Speaker 1: And also they're just because they're Americans. They're saying, I

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Speaker 1: care about crime and the economy and things that everyone

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Speaker 1: else cares about. I'm not so concerned with just begin

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Speaker 1: if you came to this country legally from Cuba years ago,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if some guy crossing the border from

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Speaker 1: Thailand five minutes ago illegally is like your top concern, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, I think that that's

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Speaker 1: the Democrats often, you know, get to get ahead of

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Speaker 1: themselves on a lot of this stuff. But the messaging

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Speaker 1: on this has to be precise, and we're gonna face

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Speaker 1: a battle here because I hate I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: this right now. There are Republicans who want amnesty too.

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Speaker 1: There are a chamber of commerce Republicans who are gonna

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Speaker 1: want to go along with this. They're gonna say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we have a split Congress. It's time to unify and

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Speaker 1: work together. It maybe six or twelve months out, Clay,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be twenty thirteen with the Gang of

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Speaker 1: Aid all over again here. They're gonna try because there

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Speaker 1: are Republicans who want this because big money donors like

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrant labor. That's what this really comes down to.

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Speaker 1: It's like, how how does Mitch McConnell stay in leadership.

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Speaker 1: He's got all the money in his pack. Guy's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a one hundred million dollars. Why do some Republicans

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Speaker 1: want to push an amnesty bill because of the people

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Speaker 1: that write checks to their campaigns are all about illegal

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Speaker 1: immigrant labor. One thing Ryan said that I think Republicans

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Speaker 1: need to make a move on by twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Democrats are kicking our ass when it comes to small

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Speaker 1: money donors, and Trump is hoovering up a lot of

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Speaker 1: that money. But he's right. I mean John Feederman Murray

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Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars to a large extent off small

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Speaker 1: method by which we raise money. We've got to create

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Speaker 1: this midterm? Right? I mean, we've got this audience very

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Speaker 1: up to speed obviously on you know who won, who lost,

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Speaker 1: and some of the broad themes. What are the takeaways

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Speaker 1: it make pretty ironclad? Okay, So first, mostly importantly, there

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Speaker 1: youth vote every year. They said it. David Shore, the

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Speaker 1: young people are voting was down. All of them. Didn't

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Speaker 1: happen whatsoever. Secondly, abortion major, major major driver for independence

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Speaker 1: people who had life unfavorability were driven towards Democrats for

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Speaker 1: two reasons. Abortion and twenty election really really really drove

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Speaker 1: it in the issue of Arizona. In Arizona there were

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Speaker 1: nine statewide had its. Five of them Republicans won or

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Speaker 1: major indicator, and that's probably why Trump yesterday during his

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Speaker 1: That well, a lot of people were also motivated to

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Speaker 1: were motivated to vote against Biden, which is very, very

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Speaker 1: very unusual, and that's why Independence. While Republicans had larger

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Speaker 1: turnout numbers. Republicans really did a good job turning out

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Speaker 1: and that wasn't the popular vote, but it was swaying

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Speaker 1: Can equality. Let's talk about that for a second. Can

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Speaker 1: equality does matter to a point? You the guy. So

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Speaker 1: there's a guy named Tom Horne. He's currently winning and

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Speaker 1: unseeming and incumbent Democrat in the state of Arizona where

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Speaker 1: He is a seventieth and year old man, a lot

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Speaker 1: of history, a lot of baggage, a lot of negative

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Speaker 1: didn't delve into The twenty twenty election reversed that with

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Speaker 1: and said Jesus Christ himself with intervening in the election

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Speaker 1: to make sure that he won them. Huge mistake, uh

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Speaker 1: one other thing, and then will go to I'll let

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Speaker 1: you guys talk whatever, but um republic show your show right. Well,

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Speaker 1: Republicans way overperformed in a lot of blue areas that

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Speaker 1: didn't matter. So Republicans had all time highs in New

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Speaker 1: York City elects congressional elections, all time high in the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles congressional elections. They overperformed by them by ten

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Speaker 1: something points in some of these places. It's just in

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Speaker 1: the places that they needed to overperform, they consistently underperformed.

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Speaker 1: That was problematic. They did much better with Asians, somewhat

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Speaker 1: better with Latinos and rural black blacks who live in

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Speaker 1: the black shelf of the South. And I think the

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Speaker 1: last lea we've had a lot of questions right now

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Speaker 1: was why are Republicans now re electing all the people

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Speaker 1: in leadership McConnell, McCarthy, YadA, YadA, YadA. How are they

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Speaker 1: being rewarded. There's an organization on the left called Act Blue.

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Speaker 1: Act Blue connects twenty one million small dollar Democratic downers

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Speaker 1: of campaigns. It's how John Fetterman was able to raise

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Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars for his Senate campaign, on top

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Speaker 1: of the hundreds of millions of dollars for other congressional campaigns.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen million against Marjor Tyler Green in a super safe

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Speaker 1: Republican district. Republicans don't have anything close to this on

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Speaker 1: our side, And the only thing that Republicans can as

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Speaker 1: have to lean on are Kevin McCarty and mister McConnell,

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Speaker 1: and they're super PACs, and I think that's something a

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Speaker 1: reason why they're doing well posts a fairly not good

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Speaker 1: midterm election. All right, Ryan, that's fantastic. I love when

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Speaker 1: you come on and just break down the data for us.

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Speaker 1: So let's play it forward. If you were looking at

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Speaker 1: the data that you have seen in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: and you were saying what needs to happen for a

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Speaker 1: Republican presidential candidate to win in twenty twenty four, And

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Speaker 1: we understand it's two years away and that the issues

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Speaker 1: can change and everything can evolve many different directions. But

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Speaker 1: would it be fair to say no one can talk

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Speaker 1: about the twenty twenty election and denying it that there

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Speaker 1: needs to be some form of abortion policy that is

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Speaker 1: put in place, whether it's like, hey, I believe that

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Speaker 1: you should be able to have an abortion, you know,

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Speaker 1: up to fifteen weeks or whatever it is. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about a national candidate who's going to win some of

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Speaker 1: these purplish states. What would have to happen for Republicans

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Speaker 1: to win in twenty four given what you're talking about

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Speaker 1: happened in Arizona, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania and Nevada, in

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Speaker 1: Michigan and Wisconsin, all those states out there where this

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Speaker 1: election is going to be decided. Yeah, so the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty election can never be revisited. It's just it's over.

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Speaker 1: You could talk about ballot harvesting, you could talk about checking,

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Speaker 1: you could talk about whatever you want. But if you

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Speaker 1: bring up at this point, if you are anything close

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Speaker 1: to a suburban district and you bring up the fact

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Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty election was stolen, you're going to lose.

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Speaker 1: It's just the case you're going to lose. That is

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Speaker 1: it drives college educated white voters away, and there are

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Speaker 1: more of them than there are of minorities. So they

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Speaker 1: basically started to cut you off. But they basically branded

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Speaker 1: that so well Democrats did for even independent college educated

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Speaker 1: voters that if you're even touching that, you're like it's

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Speaker 1: like a third rail for independent voters. You lose. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's think of it, like, think of it like privatizing

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Speaker 1: social Security something that oh, I don't know. Canids like

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Speaker 1: Rick Scott and Blake Master's also campaigned on another third rails.

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Speaker 1: You could privately believe it. I don't care. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things people privately believe but don't talk about

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Speaker 1: empolite society. At this point, it seems so toxic to people,

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Speaker 1: even people who dislike Joe Biden, that if you bring

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Speaker 1: it up, there's a good chance you will lose talking

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Speaker 1: about it. That is why Donald Trump, in an hour

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Speaker 1: long speech, did not mention once that the presidential electrament

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Speaker 1: stolen because the just the data is out there, the

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Speaker 1: polls have shown this. People that you need to win,

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Speaker 1: to win big elections, do not believe that, do not

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Speaker 1: like talking about that, and they really have believed the

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Speaker 1: whole you know, MSNBC lineup that the democracy is under

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Speaker 1: a threat, and they it feeds into the narrative that

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Speaker 1: in the abortion conversation that Republicans are weird, Republicans are

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Speaker 1: against your freedoms, Republicans are they talk like they are

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Speaker 1: all at a Trump rally or a Seapack conference. That

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Speaker 1: definitely hurts them. And furthermore, about abortion, you ask an

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Speaker 1: abortion before if a candidate says I have support I'm

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Speaker 1: pro life without exception, it is as detrimental to a

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Speaker 1: Republican as a Democrat saying I want to defund the police.

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Speaker 1: That is how badly it polls. So when you hear

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Speaker 1: somebody saying that, remember independence, are hearing defund the police,

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Speaker 1: that is the same exact knee jerk reaction. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think personally, the federal government does not have any

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Speaker 1: role to play an abortion law. It never did before

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Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy something, and never will I hopefully never

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Speaker 1: will again. The states should decide just sit there and

941
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Speaker 1: say I don't support I do not want the federal

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Speaker 1: government being involved in your abortions. I just don't want it.

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Speaker 1: You have to take a more Liberturnian statemate. That is

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Speaker 1: the way the public is on the issue, and just

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Speaker 1: back away from it. And Ryan pro life governors did

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Speaker 1: win though on last week by huge margins in Ohio, Texas, Florida, Georgia. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ryan up one more thing. This is run up against

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Speaker 1: the clock and people should subscribe if you want to

949
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Speaker 1: really see what's going on in politics across the country.

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Speaker 1: The National Populace newsletter that Ryan has on sub stack

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Speaker 1: and we'll put it up at klanbuck dot com. We'll

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Speaker 1: link it there as people can find it easily. We're

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Speaker 1: ryan one more for you on this. You know, I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you how many text messages I've gotten in

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Speaker 1: the last week from people who are involved in campaigns,

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Speaker 1: and what they all keep saying to me is we

957
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Speaker 1: have to get the message to the top. If we

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Speaker 1: tell people to just show up on election day, if

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Speaker 1: we do not run mail in ballot campaigns ourselves, if

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Speaker 1: we do not use the rules as they are currently

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Speaker 1: in place, it doesn't matter who some of these candidates

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Speaker 1: are or who the presidential candidate is, they will lose. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent true. As well, this romantic zation

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Speaker 1: that we have towards only voting on election day is

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Speaker 1: very asinine. If you believe that they're going to screw

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Speaker 1: with the machines on election day, that's fine, go vote early.

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Speaker 1: Give they give them sometimes months to vote early. Thing

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with. But as long as those are

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Speaker 1: the rules in place, you need to take advantage of

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Speaker 1: the rules. If I was on herschel Walker's campaign right now,

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Speaker 1: which I'm not, but if I was, all I would

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Speaker 1: be doing is collecting early ballots and distributing them and

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Speaker 1: dropping off either a dropboxes or to the Board of

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Speaker 1: Elections or whatever the case may be. But making sure

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Speaker 1: people vote early and getting the numbers. That's why before

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Speaker 1: the polls closed in Florida, De Senus had already won.

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Speaker 1: He won Miami Dad a week before election day because

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Speaker 1: they had gotten the Republicans out in large enough numbers

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Speaker 1: that they knew Miami Dad was over. They knew the

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Speaker 1: whole election was over a week out. And it's very

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Speaker 1: nice to sit they're in, have that position where you're

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Speaker 1: comfortable enough to sit. They're in, have that and know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win. Foreign advance. It's a turnout method. It's

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Speaker 1: also swaying independent voters. But the turnout method. Don't wait

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Speaker 1: till election day, vote our early, vote often and if

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Speaker 1: it and vote by any means necessary. Ryan or dusk, everybody. Ryan,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your breaking it down for us, great substack piece

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