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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of news to get to if you.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden pardoned yesterday full part in scratching back for

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Speaker 1: a decade. We told you it was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It was obvious it happened. The media lied. They have

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Speaker 1: no credibility. They are scrambling. The Democrats have no leader.

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Speaker 1: They are scrambling. And it's a good time to be alive,

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Speaker 1: good time to be an American, my friends. The other

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Speaker 1: thing that just broke now play sharing this out on

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Speaker 1: Twitter from Donald J. Trump's truth account, which now also

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Speaker 1: has a mirror account on x and increasingly I think

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Speaker 1: Elon is right. This is going to be where the

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Speaker 1: news would you and I do, Clay is commentary, context, entertainment, engagement,

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Speaker 1: but just the raw sharing of data. That's what CNN

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Speaker 1: but clearly aren't. Trump put this out, and here's it

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Speaker 1: has to do with the hostages being held by Hamas

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Speaker 1: he writes, everybody's talking about the hostages who are being

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Speaker 1: held so violently inhumanely and against the will of the

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Speaker 1: entire world in the Middle East. But it's all talk

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Speaker 1: and no action. Please let this truth serve to represent

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Speaker 1: that if the hostages are not released prior to January twentieth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the date that I proudly assume office

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Speaker 1: hell to pay in the Middle East, and for those

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Speaker 1: the long and storied history of the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: All caps, Release the hostages now, Clay, I understand what

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Speaker 1: They're say, oh, it's bluster hole. On a second, right,

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Speaker 1: you and I know there's a history here. What did

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Speaker 1: What did he do with the Boogeyman, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: This is a guy who anybody, I think has to

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Speaker 1: Israel's done a great job of retribution and justice when

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Speaker 2: For those of you who.

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Speaker 3: Are old enough to remember it, Jimmy Carter's failure to

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Speaker 3: Why did October seventh not happen when Trump was in office?

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Speaker 3: I would also point this out again, the schoolyard bully

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Speaker 2: And that, to me is so much of his talk.

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Speaker 1: Cash Battel appointed to go to FBI, which is fantastic.

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Speaker 4: of the later deals, the China deals, and got considerable

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Speaker 4: amount of money, and he also is under investigation in

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Speaker 4: sort of separate matters. So I'm sure that Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: will wait until the traditional time when presidents issue pardons

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Speaker 4: last day or two of his presidency in January, you know,

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Speaker 4: sort of nineteen or eighteen, and issue a pardon for

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Speaker 4: his brother. And no doubt there will be others involved

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Speaker 4: We know from James Coma is very good investigation of

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Speaker 4: the money trail that there were I think something like

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Speaker 4: these these schemes extracting millions of dollars from shady oligarchs

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Speaker 4: in Ukraine and Romania and Kazakhstan and from CCP officials

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Speaker 4: in China. So maybe he'll want to issue a pardon

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Speaker 4: to them, although I mean some of them just received money.

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Speaker 4: I guess they weren't to know what their father where

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Speaker 4: their father got it. But also there'd be other I guess,

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Speaker 4: partners of hunters, Like there's a guy called Rob Walker

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Speaker 4: in Arkansas who was the conduit for a lot of

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Speaker 4: this money and then he parceled it out and fuddled

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Speaker 4: it out to hunter in his family. So maybe he

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Speaker 4: would also get a pardon as much as anything to

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Speaker 4: keep his mouth shut. But I think when it comes

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Speaker 4: to people like Anthony Blincoln, who certainly assisted and met

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Speaker 4: with Hunter and assisted in covering up the laptop because

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty election. You know, if they received pardons,

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Speaker 4: it's an admission of guilt from them if you accept

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Speaker 4: a pardon, and so I'm not sure that they are

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Speaker 4: going to want to admit guilt because thus far they've

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Speaker 4: been very good at keeping their hands clean and pretending

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Speaker 4: they had nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 3: Miranda, you know better than anybody. And thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for coming on the past several years with us

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Speaker 3: and laying out just how many crimes Hunter had committed.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is trying to make in his statement last night,

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Speaker 3: Hunter looked like the victim of political attacks and overreaching prosecution.

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Speaker 3: Based on everything you have written and everything you have

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Speaker 3: seen of Hunter's alleged crimes and now convicted crimes, do

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Speaker 3: you think Hunter received favorable or unfavorable treatment from the

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Speaker 3: justice system.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just hilarious. Of course, yes, he got

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Speaker 4: favorable treatment. And you know, Joe Biden's quite right. He

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Speaker 4: was singled out for special treatment and it was not

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Speaker 4: what Joe is saying he was. In fact, the Department

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Speaker 4: of Justice bent over backwards to protect him and to

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Speaker 4: make sure that the investigators never got to do what

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Speaker 4: they wanted. I mean, initially the investigation into him was

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Speaker 4: supposed to cover bribery and money laundering and foreign agent

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Speaker 4: violations on top of the tax and the guns. This

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Speaker 4: was a much bigger investigation with way more serious allegations,

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Speaker 4: And the only reason that Hunter ended up being charged

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Speaker 4: at all with any felonies was because of those brave

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Speaker 4: Iris whistleblowers. This was the opposite of an unfair prosecution

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Speaker 4: or an unfair investigation. What was unfair was what was

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Speaker 4: done to the whistleblowers and is still being done as

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Speaker 4: they're being retaliated against by Joe Biden's administration.

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Speaker 3: Miranda, Now that we look at this, and you were

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Speaker 3: talking about all the different directions that the pardons in

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Speaker 3: the future can go, and also sort of the entire

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Speaker 3: timing of it, what comes next? What do you think

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Speaker 3: Trump should do associated with the Hunter Biden crime family

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Speaker 3: when he comes in. And I do think it's important,

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Speaker 3: and we mentioned this earlier, but isn't it astounding that

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Speaker 3: Trump has actually borne more political consequences for this simply

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Speaker 3: by asking about what happened in Ukraine and getting impeached

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Speaker 3: than anybody on the Biden Ryan's family.

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Speaker 4: I know. I mean, isn't he just the perfect scapegoat?

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Speaker 4: He was impeached for the sins of Joe Biden. Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden was the one who actually did what Trump was

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Speaker 4: impeached for. He held a billion dollars in aid as

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Speaker 4: a threat to ensure that the prosecutor who was investigating

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Speaker 4: And he did get fired, and the new prosecutor dropped

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Speaker 4: all the charges and the investigation against the against Barisma

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Speaker 4: his crime was to ask President Zelenski if he was

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Speaker 4: led now to this tragic war in Ukraine. So I

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Speaker 4: think the number one priority for Trump is going to

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Speaker 4: be and you can see it with his installation of

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Speaker 4: people like cash Betel at the FBI. It's going to

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Speaker 4: be to root out the wrongdoers in the deep state,

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Speaker 4: who covered up, who conspired to censor our stories about

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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden, and thus to basically rig the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: election to ensure that derogatory information about Joe Biden never

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Speaker 4: saw got to the public, the voters.

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Speaker 3: And.

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Speaker 4: Just you know that included the CIA and the actual

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Speaker 4: CIA director at the time, Gina Haskell under Trump. She

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Speaker 4: was involved in having the green light to that dirty

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Speaker 4: fifty one letter I call it falsely claiming that the

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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. We thought it was

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Speaker 4: a whole bunch of retired intelligence officials. It turned out

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Speaker 4: Gina Haspell herself allowed that to be published. It was

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Speaker 1: Through Miranda Devine everybody. Miranda's got great books, including Laptop

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Speaker 2: Miranda, you've been on the story all along.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all your insight and analysis, and we'll be talking

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Speaker 1: to you again soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Awesome dude. Just an absolutely phenomenal guy and a true

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Speaker 1: There's been a break in the control over the narrative

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