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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Diving into this story about the Blaze reporter Steve Baker,

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Speaker 2: who was arrested by the FBI. I believe this morning

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Speaker 2: we're going to join now Jill Savage. She's done fantastic

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Speaker 2: work without kick in the past. As I said, some

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Speaker 2: of you may remember her from sidelines in college football

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Speaker 2: among other things. Also, by the way, Catherine Herridge is

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Speaker 2: the CBS reporter. I think I mispronounced her last name

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Speaker 2: or got it wrong. Catherine Herridge is the CBS reporter.

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Speaker 2: But Jill, you were just in the courtroom with Steve

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Speaker 2: Baker who was there covering January sixth. What happened? What

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Speaker 2: can you tell us about this case?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I am actually standing just outside the courtroom

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Speaker 3: now waiting for Steve and his lawyers.

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Speaker 4: To come out.

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Speaker 3: But I can tell you that as of this morning,

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Speaker 3: Steve at seven am had you self surrender to the FBI.

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Speaker 3: His court hearing was today at ten am on a

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Speaker 3: four defendants in there, and they told him before this

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Speaker 3: during this week they said where shorts and sandals. They

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Speaker 3: wouldn't tell him the charges that they were going to

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Speaker 3: bring against him Clay, but they told him.

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Speaker 5: To wear shorts and sandals.

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Speaker 3: We presumed that would be if they would have him

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Speaker 3: change in to an orange jumpsuit. But he was indeed

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Speaker 3: able to wear his dressed shirt dress pants. But he

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Speaker 3: was shackled at his wrists and ankles. Today.

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Speaker 5: They ended up.

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Speaker 3: Bringing four misdemeanor charges.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you've gone over those already or not.

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Speaker 6: We have it.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us what is he being charged with?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted

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Speaker 3: building or grounds without lawful authorities. The second charge is

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Speaker 3: disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds.

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Speaker 5: The third charges of disorderly.

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Speaker 3: Conduct in a capitol building, in the fourth being parading

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Speaker 5: And that one has been used against.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the January sixth defendants. The parading around

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Speaker 3: the Capitol building was a very popular charge to bring

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Speaker 3: against them. But yeah, so Steve Baker, he was in there.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's the first one up on the docket.

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Speaker 3: And he will be released at some points today and

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Speaker 3: then his next hearing is set for a d C

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Speaker 3: Court on March fourteenth at twelve thirty eastern. So, Steve,

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Speaker 3: if you've been following this case, you know that Steve

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Speaker 3: Baker was an independent journalist. On January sixth, he said,

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Speaker 3: I was just going where the story led me. I

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Speaker 3: didn't know that I was going to be entering the

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Speaker 3: Capitol Building that day. I had no free disposition to

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Speaker 3: be entering the Capitol Building that day. Even in the

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Speaker 3: documents that they provided us today from court, they said

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Speaker 3: he was in the building for approximately thirty seven minutes.

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Speaker 5: So play a journalist entering.

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Speaker 3: A capital building for thirty seven minutes is now leading

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Speaker 3: us here to where we have charges being brought, you know,

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Speaker 7: Hey, Jill, it's it's box today. Do we have some

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Speaker 7: sense as to why now and why the delay?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 7: I mean, there have been so many of these cases

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Speaker 7: is significant.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And this is something that they have been hanging

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Speaker 3: over Steve Baker's head for about two and a half years.

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Speaker 5: They've always put it out there.

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Speaker 3: That they were going to bring charges against him.

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Speaker 5: That was just a threat, though there.

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Speaker 3: Was nothing that was ever concrete until December of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three, they said the charges would be imminent. Now

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Speaker 3: what has changed, you ask? But he came on as

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Speaker 3: a Blaze media reporter in the summer of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: and it seems that there would be a correlation between

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Speaker 3: the two because, as you mentioned, it was such a

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Speaker 3: long time from one step to the next. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: in December twenty three, they said the charges would be

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Speaker 1: Where is the court proceeding? By the way, Jill, where

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Speaker 1: are you right now?

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Speaker 3: Him in downtown Dallas right now? So we are just

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Speaker 3: next court house will be in DC itself on March fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so question for you.

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Speaker 2: My understanding is that not only was he an independent journalist,

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Speaker 2: but that the New York Times actually used some of

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Speaker 2: his reporting from inside on January sixth, and on top

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Speaker 2: of that that they have reviewed security camera footage of

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Speaker 2: him on January sixth, That is, I saw the Speaker

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Speaker 2: of the House, Mike Johnson, talking about this, and they

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Speaker 2: haven't found anything that he did that was of a

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Speaker 2: astounding that this would be happening. I'm surprised, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen it all. Have any of

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Speaker 2: the so called left leaning media commented on this at all,

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Speaker 2: because there were a lot of left leaning media that

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Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, I have not seen any left leaning media

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Speaker 3: that has been interesting talking with Steve in the days

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Speaker 3: leading up to this trial, he said that he saw

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Speaker 3: a New York Times reporter go in to the Capitol

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Speaker 3: building through a broken window, and Steve just you know,

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Speaker 3: made a note of that in his head, going, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's that's odd. Why is this person going through this

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Speaker 3: it's interesting to see the way that things are being portrayed,

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Speaker 3: because he has been approached by HBO, the New York Times,

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Speaker 3: several media outlets for his reporting that he had done

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Speaker 3: on January sixth, and it hadn't been a problem until

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Speaker 3: you know, things of unknown nature play has changed.

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Speaker 7: So what are the expectations now of the of the

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Speaker 7: next steps. I mean, you're you're outside the courthouse. You've

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Speaker 7: obviously been following this very closely. Are they trying to

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Speaker 7: offer some kind of a play deal to him?

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Speaker 1: Likely?

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Speaker 7: What do we think is going to be happening in

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Speaker 7: the days and weeks ahead with this journalist from the Blaze?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that we're we're going to get those

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Speaker 3: they are able to make it out of the courthouse.

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Speaker 3: But they said to us before they went in, this

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Speaker 3: they didn't actually tell Steve Baker what he was going

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Speaker 3: they were worried that he would tweet it out. So

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited to actually.

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Speaker 2: I mean now, by the way, I would tweet it

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Speaker 2: out if the FBI was going to charge me with

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Speaker 2: something related to doing my job too. What can you

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Speaker 2: tell us about Steve jail you I'm assuming no him.

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Speaker 2: You're in the courtroom. What is Steve Baker, like, how

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Speaker 2: is he handling this personally? I don't know what kind

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Speaker 2: they don't like tell us about him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Steve is just, you know, a great guy that

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Speaker 3: and we all just kind of look around at him, like, hey,

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Speaker 5: You should go do something fun. You don't know what's.

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Speaker 3: Actually going to be happening on Friday. But when you

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Speaker 5: I just want to share with the.

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Speaker 3: People what what I saw heard learn that. He's like,

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Speaker 3: I've been a journalist for so long, now this isn't

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Speaker 3: this isn't even like, you know, the probably the single

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Speaker 3: It might change now that the FBI has actually arrested him,

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Speaker 3: but when you look at it, he'd show is a

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Speaker 3: to him, you know why, because you've poked them in

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Speaker 3: Who is a guy doing his job on January sixth

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Speaker 7: Jill, appreciate you being with us. Thanks for bringing the

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Speaker 7: story to us. We'll continue to follow it and have updates. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Thanks j Clay.

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Speaker 7: I was at the Blaze for six years. That's where

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Speaker 7: I started my cares. It has to hit you two clubs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, having been a writer at the Blaze, this

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Speaker 2: guy's literally just covering jan six, then they are now

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Speaker 2: trying to put him in prison for it. Clay I was,

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Speaker 2: I was a Blaze writer and I was right there

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Speaker 2: all the a Zukati Park, Occupy Wall Street. I was

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Speaker 7: Uh So, you know, I know what it is to

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Speaker 7: be somebody who's trying to bring the public the truth,

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Speaker 7: but you don't have that establishment shield. I mean, and

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Speaker 7: in what world does that make any sense?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 7: The Blaze gets millions and millions of readers a month.

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Speaker 7: Why is one treated like journalism as in the New

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Speaker 7: York Times and the other doesn't count? You know, I

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Speaker 7: don't even like this term. People say, Oh, well, they're

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Speaker 7: citizen journalists or they're you know, independent. No, you're just

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Speaker 7: You're just a journalist, the same way anybody else is.

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Speaker 7: I think the termjournalists these days increasingly meaningless because everybody

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Speaker 7: has access to platforms. But we'll continue to follow this

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Speaker 7: and anything we can do to help out get the

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Speaker 7: will do so. Now, you know, the first video camera

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Speaker 7: that my family owned was my dad's. He had four

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Speaker 7: kids and love taking video of us opening presents on Christmas,

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Speaker 7: you know, Thanksgiving with my grandparents, me chasing my brothers

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Speaker 7: around playing little tackle football without the pads, that kind

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Speaker 7: of stuff, And I'm.

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Speaker 1: Glad he did.

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Speaker 7: But you know, these days we don't have a video

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Speaker 7: cassette player, a VHS player, So how can we enjoy those.

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Speaker 1: Old tapes and also all those old.

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Speaker 7: Family albums that are collecting dust somewhere, just photos that

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Speaker 7: are fading over time.

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Speaker 1: How do you enjoy them?

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Speaker 7: Well, if you want to be able to enjoy your

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Speaker 7: family memories digitally going forward, you need Legacy Box. Legacy

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Speaker 1: What we're hearing now.

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Speaker 7: And right now the final arguments are expected at any

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Speaker 7: And so what are we left with at this point?

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Speaker 7: So I know that's that's the strategic maneuver they've done

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Speaker 7: There's absolutely no way Merrick Garland is going to save

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Speaker 7: this is from, but Merrick Clay, Merrick Garland would never

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Speaker 7: be able to just put aside his politics.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't be able to go out in public for

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Speaker 1: the rest of his life. Without just people cursing at

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Speaker 1: him and hissing out. I mean no, I mean I

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Speaker 1: think he would.

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Speaker 2: He would come out and say, and we're gonna try

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Speaker 2: these cases in February of twenty twenty five in the

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Speaker 2: event that Trump loses, and if he wins, then we'll

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Speaker 2: try the case in February of twenty twenty eight, right

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Speaker 2: or twenty twenty nine, I guess it would be. But

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Speaker 2: I think I have more faith because, to be fair,

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Speaker 2: as we go to break here, the judge Noriyeika and

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Speaker 2: Delaware has done a fabulous job. I think Eileen Cannon

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Speaker 2: Court's unwillingness to play the expedited race game that Jack

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Speaker 2: Smith has requested that they do. And I think the

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Speaker 2: end result is going to be buck. They're going to

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Speaker 2: leave it, which is what should happen up to the

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Speaker 2: will of one hundred and fifty million some such.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we totally agree on that. As opposed to

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Speaker 1: the judges, I just.

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Speaker 7: Think that when you're naming the people that you have

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Speaker 7: some faith in, I think they're all Republican appointees. There's

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Speaker 7: a key, a key differentiator here which we'd say, are

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Speaker 7: a Garland and the only people who have even stood

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Speaker 7: up for due process not done anything. We say, wow,

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Speaker 7: that's really good for Trump. It's just not allowing the

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Speaker 7: machinery of Trump destruction to continue, or you know, bailing

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Speaker 7: out Hunter Biden in a way that's clearly partisan our

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Speaker 7: Republican appointees. So this is, I mean, you have a

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Speaker 7: very politicized judicial system that I think everyone already understands.

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Speaker 7: You know, look, Trump's lawyers understand it. That's why they want.

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Speaker 7: They think Eileen Cannon is at least going to give

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Speaker 7: a fair shake to Trump, which is a world of

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Speaker 1: We got our friend.

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Speaker 7: Steven Miller in the mix right now. He is the

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Speaker 7: founder and president of America First Legal, a former senior

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Speaker 7: advisor to President Trump on many issues, but specifically thought

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Speaker 7: of as the architect of Trump border policies, something that

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Speaker 7: perhaps he might have to resurrect as a thing that

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Speaker 7: he's spending time on. Steven, appreciate you being here now.

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Speaker 7: We got two different presidents at the border. Biden and

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Speaker 7: the Democrats are now pretending that.

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Speaker 1: They care about the border.

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Speaker 7: What is your first reaction when you see Biden slowly

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Speaker 7: fumbling and stumbling around down there.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, aside from the fact that the visuals

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Speaker 8: were terrible, Joe Biden looked more confused and aimless than usual,

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Speaker 8: just completely lost out there.

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Speaker 4: So that obviously was a bad visual to the White House.

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Speaker 8: Substantively, though, you have to appreciate the brazenness of the

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Speaker 8: Democratic Party, which has spent if we start the clock

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Speaker 8: in twenty sixteen, which is spent eight years single mindedly

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Speaker 8: devoted to the proposition of no illegal alien left behind.

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Speaker 8: Eight years of our national life was don't build the wall.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump's a racist.

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Speaker 8: There are no such thing as criminal aliens. They're just

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Speaker 8: people coming for a better life. We should let them

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Speaker 8: all in. They're the real Americans, are the best Americans.

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Speaker 8: They're dreamers.

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Speaker 4: Our kids are trash. The real heroes are illegal aliens.

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Speaker 4: Eight years of this, eight.

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Speaker 9: Years John Trump, every single deportation policy. They tried to

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Speaker 9: insert poison pills at every single spending bill to make

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Speaker 9: it harder than secure the border. They tore their garments,

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Speaker 9: they ripped out their hair, They screamed bloody murder, they

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Speaker 9: set AOC to the border.

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Speaker 4: They made up all this.

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Speaker 8: Bull about kids in cages and everything else. And then

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden comes in and he's like, we're getting rid

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Speaker 8: of all these policies.

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Speaker 4: We're opening the border serves the border.

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Speaker 8: No one's going to gail, no one's being arrested. Everybody

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Speaker 8: gets a judge, the immigration judge for everybody, billion, for

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Speaker 8: people in the world, you all get an immigration judge.

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Speaker 4: Everybody can come here. No one is being deported.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna pause emportations, we're gonna shut down Ice, we're

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Speaker 8: gonna stop building the wall.

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Speaker 9: Eight years of this, eight straight years of it.

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Speaker 4: Then something walks in the way.

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Speaker 8: I said, oh, we're getting some pretty bad bull numbers

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Speaker 8: here on the whole invasion thing, Like, oh, let's just

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Speaker 8: talk everyone. We totally love ward security. In a history

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Speaker 8: of rhetorical.

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Speaker 4: Pivots, there's no policy pivot mind too.

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Speaker 8: In the history of rhetorical pivots, this would be like

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Speaker 8: Jeffrey Dahmer coming out and saying I've given it a thought,

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Speaker 8: and I say think that serial killing is super awful.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's where that's where.

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Speaker 8: This is in terms of the degree and level of

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Speaker 8: infanity and trying to convince the American people that the

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Speaker 8: Democrat Party has positive feelings of a border of security.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully that gives two cents to how I feel

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, that's perfect. Stephen.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Blake and Riley would still be alive

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Speaker 2: if Donald Trump was president of the United States.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, she would be with her family right now, She'd

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Speaker 8: be with her friends, right now, She'd be pursuing her

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Speaker 8: dream of being a nursing student and helping thousands of

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Speaker 8: people in that career and profession, making our country and

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Speaker 8: our world an immeasurably better place. The odds that she

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Speaker 8: would be alive to day Thoald Trump was in the

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Speaker 8: White House are one hundred percent, nine per one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And I know this because.

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Speaker 6: We would never in any universe, any universe, have been

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Speaker 6: releasing fighting age men into the country. And in fact,

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Speaker 6: in the case of Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: We worked very hard to force.

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Speaker 8: Venezuela and did so successfully to take back all of

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Speaker 8: their nationals. So before there was actually a big public

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Speaker 8: awareness about the crime threat from Venezuela. So back in

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty, the member, because I worked on this before

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Speaker 8: there was a lot of public awareness about the crime threat,

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Speaker 8: and most of the conversation about Venezuela was in the.

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Speaker 4: Context of.

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Speaker 8: Socialism and the state of the economy in Venezuela. We

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Speaker 8: were working night and day to make sure all the

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Speaker 8: Venezuelan's were going home, because we knew if we got

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Speaker 8: out in Venesulas, we're going to go home, that they

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Speaker 8: would start coming in enormous numbers because of the state

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Speaker 8: of the economy there, and of course criminals and hugities

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Speaker 8: and predators would take advantage of that. So we were

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Speaker 8: very hard to keep things perfectly buttoned up with Venezuela.

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Speaker 8: That's why didn't hear one damn word about Venice with

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Speaker 8: en criminals during the entire Trump presidency, because none of

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Speaker 8: them got into the country.

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Speaker 7: Steven Miller with US Now of America First Legal Steven.

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Speaker 7: Some of the critics of President Trump on the border, particularly,

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Speaker 7: you'll hear this from people on the right will say,

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Speaker 7: and they'll say this in response to a number of things,

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Speaker 7: the wall, deportations, Why didn't he do it the first time?

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Speaker 7: What do you say to people when that is their

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Speaker 7: criticism of Trump? When he brings up what he wants

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Speaker 7: to do now when it comes to the border and

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Speaker 7: securing it.

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Speaker 8: Well, it was just factually untrue. I just predicated on

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Speaker 8: a completely false understanding of the heroic achievements of those

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Speaker 8: four years. So I mean, just take a few specific

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Speaker 8: points here. During the course of the Trump administration, five

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Speaker 8: hundred miles of new wall were built. And I know

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Speaker 8: there's this ludicrous talking point out there.

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Speaker 4: Like, oh was where barrier was before? There are high

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Speaker 4: traffic locations where there was vehicle.

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Speaker 8: Barriers, for example, which are just at the post in

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Speaker 8: the road, like vehicle barrier right, in other words, you

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Speaker 8: can't drive a car through it, right, Or there was

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Speaker 8: dilapidated tinfoil lying on the ground, high traffic, high priority

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Speaker 8: areas where we put in the most effective and powerful

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Speaker 8: wall system in American history, five hundred miles of it,

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Speaker 8: which involved having to condemn land, having to fight land

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Speaker 8: owners to get control of land when they wouldn't give

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Speaker 8: it up, having to fight every environmental group, every radical lefty,

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Speaker 8: having to fight the ACLU, having to fight Congress. We

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Speaker 8: got up five hundred miles a wall. By the time

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Speaker 8: of twenty twenty, that thing was.

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Speaker 4: Just rolling along. It was humming.

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Speaker 8: It was like a boulder down hill.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we were adding it at.

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Speaker 8: An astonishing clip and in pace. With respect to just

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Speaker 8: the overall immigration picture. Keep in mind, we came atoboson

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Speaker 8: twenty seventeen. Nobody knew anything about remain in Mexico. Nobody

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Speaker 8: knew anything about safe study primage, nobody knew anything about

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Speaker 8: this term me here two twelve f travel bands right.

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Speaker 4: Every single thing.

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Speaker 8: That Donald Trump did was unprecedented in American's history, never

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Speaker 8: been tried, let alone done before Title forty two. If

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Speaker 8: I had told you in twenty sixteen we were going

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Speaker 8: to develop a system, legally, operationally, diplomatically to have an

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Speaker 8: instant expulsion program where you have no right to apply

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Speaker 8: for asylum, no right to request relief, no right to

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Speaker 8: see an immigration judge, no right to anything, just hello,

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Speaker 8: see you later, goodbye. If I told you that, you

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Speaker 8: would have said, that's an impossible dream. That's a fever dream, Stephen,

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Speaker 8: You're living in a fantasy world.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy talk.

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Speaker 8: That's the kind of talk that belongs in an insane astule,

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Speaker 8: that will never happen in the real world, and where

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Speaker 8: we can get it.

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Speaker 4: And we did it perfectly. In fact, we did it so.

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Speaker 8: Well that in twenty twenty, there were zero, zero discretionary

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Speaker 8: releases into the United States. You know, there's always the case

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Speaker 8: of those the medical emergency, you know, somebody has to

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Speaker 8: get emergency hospital care of something like that. But there

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Speaker 8: was zero discretionary releases. Every single person the Border Patrol

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Speaker 8: or CBP laid their hands on was placed into detention

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Speaker 8: and removed. That had never been achieved before, not during

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Speaker 8: the Bush administration, not during the crypt administration, not during

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Speaker 8: the Ragan administration, certainly not during the upon the administration.

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Speaker 8: We were talking about things that are unheard of before

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Speaker 8: in American industry.

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Speaker 4: It used to be my last point, as it used to.

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Speaker 8: Be that all border patrol would do where they would

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Speaker 8: deport single adults from Mexico, That's what they did, and

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Speaker 8: when they got some exotic nationality or a family they

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Speaker 8: didn't know what to do with, right, they would oftentimes

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Speaker 8: be released, which is why by the time we came

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Speaker 8: into office, you saw more and more people from far

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Speaker 8: away lands, and more and more people smuggling.

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Speaker 4: Children, everything else like that. And we fixed it all.

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Speaker 4: We buttoned it up, and we marched through.

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Speaker 8: Hell to get it done. We spent four years fighting

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Speaker 8: every single enemy of board and security in this country,

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Speaker 8: and we beat him like a drum and we got

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Speaker 8: it done. And all Joe Biden had to do was keep.

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Speaker 4: The status cloth.

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Speaker 8: But of course he didn't do that because the Democrat

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Speaker 8: Party is committed to the proposition of unlimited migration.

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Speaker 2: Stephen, you mentioned how Biden looked, let's leave aside the

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Speaker 2: disaster that actually exists at the border. But we started

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Speaker 2: off the show today talking about the fact that I

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Speaker 2: watched that video of him walking on the trail and

674
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Speaker 2: I felt like he needed a walker.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was sad to watch.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy he couldn't move his arms, like

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Speaker 2: everything was out of sorts with something as simple as

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Speaker 2: walking on a trail. Is he actually gonna run? I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know what it takes to be involved in running

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Speaker 2: the country, how much energy it takes. We're regardless of

681
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Speaker 2: the politics. When you see Joe Biden, do you actually

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Speaker 2: think that they're going to have him on the ballot

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Speaker 2: in November?

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Speaker 8: I still do, although I read and I'm probably in

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Speaker 8: a minority.

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Speaker 2: You and Buck are like the only people, by the way,

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Speaker 2: us incredibly wise and thoughtful people see where this is going.

688
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Speaker 7: So just don't let anyone tell you you're alone, because

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Speaker 7: you and I are at the top of this mountain

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Speaker 7: of wisdom.

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Speaker 2: So explain why you think that is it just kind

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Speaker 2: of lay out your argument.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, there's just a practical fact that the

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden, clearly, as you saw from his angry press conference,

695
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Speaker 8: is absolutely determined personally, at a personal level, to cling

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Speaker 8: to power. I mean, watching him yell and shout at

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Speaker 8: Deucy and everybody else at the press conference the day

698
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Speaker 8: after her Special Counsel report came out, it's clear that

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Speaker 8: he despinitely wants to cling to power.

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Speaker 4: Number one.

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Speaker 8: Number two is the vice president problem, Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: She would have to agree to.

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Speaker 8: Bow out and not say that they could actually have

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Speaker 8: a primary battle between say her and Gavin Newsom. She

705
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Speaker 8: would have to be persuaded to convince shown poll numbers

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Speaker 8: to say you will be the first vice president in

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Speaker 8: recent history to be the heir apparent, and just to

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Speaker 8: voluntarily bow out, even though there's no particular thing other

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Speaker 8: than your unpopularity.

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Speaker 4: Pushing you aside.

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Speaker 8: So both of those events would have to happen. It

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Speaker 8: have to happen by this summer, and then there's also

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Speaker 8: just a practical matter of with the last practical point

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Speaker 8: on this is that very hard to remove Biden from

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Speaker 8: all these state battles and everything else. So it has

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Speaker 8: to be done, most likely at a convention. As a

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Speaker 8: very difficult thing to have a situation with the Democratic

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Speaker 8: Party right now, with all of its fissures and all

719
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Speaker 8: of its fractions, to have people just crowning and on

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Speaker 8: the knee, with no democratic process behind it whatsoever. So

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Speaker 8: I think for all those reasons, barring a medical emergency,

722
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Speaker 8: which is quite possible, let's be clear, it's eminently possible,

723
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Speaker 8: I see him.

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Speaker 4: Staying on the ballot.

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Speaker 7: Stephen Miller's a very smart man, Clay, as we all know,

726
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Speaker 7: he's very wise, very astute, America first legal Steven Miller's

727
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Speaker 7: out there doing great work. Steven, appreciate you being with us.

728
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Speaker 7: We'll talk to you again soon about the border and

729
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Speaker 7: other things. And when when Biden is clearly the nominee,

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Speaker 7: you and I will do a little high five on

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Speaker 7: the air. So thank you.

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Speaker 8: And also we need to get that next season to

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Speaker 8: cop for kai going.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I was going to ask.

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Speaker 2: You, do you have any I can't wait for the

736
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Speaker 2: next season I was talking about that with my kids

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Speaker 2: the other day. Do you have any TV or movie

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Speaker 2: recommendations anything you've seen. I know you're a you're a

739
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Speaker 2: pop culture guy, which is going to stun people because

740
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Speaker 2: they're like they think of you as like nos Faratu

741
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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 4: That is very true.

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Speaker 8: Well, the I've actually been going back recently and watching

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Speaker 8: old episodes of Magnum p I.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, was once America.

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Speaker 8: And so if you want to feel really great about

747
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Speaker 8: how just cool, totally awesome and amazing America is, just

748
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Speaker 8: inject the Magnum p I into your veins and I'll

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Speaker 8: give you the boost that you need.

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Speaker 7: I'm with awesome, well done, well done, Thank you, Steve Even.

751
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Speaker 7: And now we'll know if Steven shows up with a

752
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Speaker 7: Magnum p I mustache, you know, not not surprised.

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Speaker 1: That would actually be incredible. Actually be a good look,

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Speaker 1: be a good look. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's that easy.

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Speaker 2: Laura Trump joins us now former first daughter in law,

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Speaker 2: host of The Right View podcast. She has a new

791
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Speaker 2: kids book up that is out right now at Brave

792
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Speaker 2: books dot Com, The Never Give Up Pop and Laura.

793
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Speaker 2: When I told my wife that you were coming on,

794
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Speaker 2: she had an important PSA that she wanted you to

795
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Speaker 2: be involved in with her. Her name is also Laura,

796
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Speaker 2: Laura Travis. She says that as a person who lives

797
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Speaker 2: in Tennessee, no one can get her name right. They

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Speaker 2: all think that her name is Laura, and so she

799
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Speaker 2: wanted me to ask you, is this something that you

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Speaker 2: have dealt with for your entire life in North Carolina

801
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Speaker 2: as well? And can you make a public announcement that

802
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Speaker 2: there's a difference between the two names.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is important.

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Speaker 3: This is big stuff. We're breaking news. We're making news here.

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Speaker 3: It's her name is La r the same as mine.

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Speaker 5: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 2: She was named after doctor Schavago. Her mom loved the movie.

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Speaker 2: Is that you two?

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Speaker 5: The movie? The book?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's from the sixties, so literally no one

812
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Speaker 3: around knows anything about it. We sound crazy talking about

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Speaker 3: that we were named after doctor Zavago.

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Speaker 5: It's Lara.

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Speaker 3: And the best part is if you listen to the

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Speaker 3: forty fifth President of the United States, Donald Trump pronounced

817
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Speaker 3: my name, of course, my father in law. He really

818
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Speaker 3: has had to work himself into it.

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Speaker 5: Over the years. I've known him for sixteen years. Here

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Speaker 5: that he.

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Speaker 3: Puts a lot of emphasis on the first day he

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Speaker 3: goes LAA.

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Speaker 5: So he has really nailed it.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to encourage everyone out there, for my sake

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Speaker 3: and your wife's sake, to go ahead and take a

826
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Speaker 3: page out of President in Trump's playbook when you're pronouncing

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Speaker 3: our names.

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Speaker 1: That's the right way, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And also, Lara Croft tomb raider if you're younger, which

830
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Speaker 2: is what my wife sometimes will reference. So I thought

831
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Speaker 2: that was important. You've all learned a lesson that'll help me.

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Speaker 2: I was nervous when I started dating my wife that

833
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Speaker 2: I was going to screw up her name too, So

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Speaker 2: I appreciate former President Trump dealing with that as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, tell us about this book and what made

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Speaker 2: you want to write it. I believe you have two kids.

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Speaker 2: I bet reading a lot of kids books to get

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Speaker 2: your kids ready for Beta, among other things, was part

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Speaker 2: of the prompting. But what exactly is the book and

840
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Speaker 2: why did you want to write it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've partnered with Brave Books, and everybody who's heard

843
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: of Great Books knows what a great job they do.

844
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Speaker 3: They basically are a faith based book company who wants

845
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Speaker 3: to teach morals to our kids, who wants to make

846
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Speaker 3: a safe space where every parent can feel comfortable their

847
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: kids read their books and really getting immersed in the books.

848
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Speaker 3: It feels like everywhere you turn these days, wokeness infiltrates everything,

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Speaker 3: and so I think a lot of parents, like myself,

850
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Speaker 3: were concerned. You know, we want to ensure that we're

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Speaker 3: instilling the same values in our children that our parents

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Speaker 3: instilled in us. And so I partnered with them because

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Speaker 3: I thought they were a great company, and it's really

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Speaker 3: the book is about hard work. I feel like we

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Speaker 3: live in a society where hard work is just falling

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Speaker 3: by the wayside. Kids don't appreciate what hard work gets you.

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Speaker 3: Everything is so easy and accessible for them these days,

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Speaker 3: and how great it feels to put in a good

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Speaker 3: heart day's work and get results on the other side

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Speaker 3: of it. So I actually wrote this book with them,

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Speaker 3: you know, like seven months ago. And of course the

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Speaker 3: irony is that you look at my father in law.

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Speaker 3: He is kind of the epitome of never giving up.

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Speaker 3: And it really wasn't fully intended to be about him,

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Speaker 3: but you could kind of, you know, put the.

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Speaker 5: Two stories together. He doesn't give up, neither does the

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Speaker 5: dog and the book.

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Speaker 3: And of course it's got it's about animals. Dogs one

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Speaker 3: of my favorite things. So I would just encourage parents

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Speaker 3: out there if you want to feel comfortable about what

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Speaker 3: you're reading to your kids. Brave Books is fantastic Brave

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Speaker 3: books dot Com.

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Speaker 5: And it's to never give.

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Speaker 1: Up Puff Lara, It's buck. Notice the pronunciation, uh, the

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Speaker 1: fantastic well done, thank you, thank you, Laara. I would

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Speaker 1: do it like I would do.

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Speaker 7: Like the Big Guy does Laura and China, and he's

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Speaker 7: got special words then.

879
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: Never give up pup? What kind of PUFP is it?

880
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 7: I want to ask you some It's a Friday afternoon year,

881
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 7: I want to ask you some dog questions. What are

882
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 7: we talking about?

883
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'm a dog lover. I'm a crazy

884
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 5: dog lady.

885
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, self described. So I have a beagle and I

886
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 3: also have a larger hound mixed.

887
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 5: Charlie's a beagle. Ben is a larger hound mix. This

888
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: dog is I I know.

889
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: That everybody has remember the the dog that was in

890
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: the trench coat when we were kids and you would

891
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: see him oftentimes on TV. I'm trying to remember, Oh yeah, rough, yeah, So.

892
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 5: He's kind of modeled after that.

893
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: So it's it's a hound because hounds are always on

894
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: the case on the scent, and we know they're the

895
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: best detectives out there. So we had to put a

896
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: hound in here. That's what I've got going around at

897
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: my house and so we I know, I can't remember.

898
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: So Laura, I know we look, we're gonna sell.

899
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 7: We're gonna sell a lot of brave books that never

900
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 7: give up puff right now because this, uh, everyone listening.

901
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 7: You've probably got more dog lovers listening to this than

902
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 7: you could collect people who love dogs in any other place,

903
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 7: anywhere else in the world. But I do have to

904
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 7: ask you, because I'm wondering these days, and I want

905
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 7: to put you on the hot seat a little bit.

906
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 7: Where do you come down on the invasion? I'm just saying,

907
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 7: are they sending us their best of doodles? Because the

908
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 7: doodles are everywhere now, everywhere you look, nothing but doodles.

909
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 7: I've got one now, I love her. She's amazing. But

910
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 7: I look around. All I see in my neighborhood are

911
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 7: these poodle mixes. I've never seen a dog become so

912
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 7: popular so fast.

913
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Where are you on it?

914
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: A lot of doodles, a lot of yeah, a lot

915
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: of that going on. Here's where I come down on it,

916
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 3: is anyone who wants to go to an animal shelter,

917
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: to a dog rescue, anywhere where there are dogs that

918
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: need a good home. Because, by the way, shout out

919
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: to Joe Biden for the fact that we are now

920
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: euthanizing dogs at four or five times the rate we

921
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 3: were under President Donald Trump, because people literally cannot afford

922
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: to keep their family pets.

923
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: I want you to get them all.

924
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: I love all of them, and whether it's a doodle,

925
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: whether it's a hound, pit pulls.

926
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of pitpules. They get a bad rap.

927
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 5: I call them the Donald Trump of the dog world

928
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 5: because people.

929
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: Don't understand them generally speaking. But yeah, the doodles have

930
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: really infiltrated. Whether or not they're sending their best I

931
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: got some thoughts on that they are hypoallergenic, so I'll

932
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: give them that.

933
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 7: Well, there's one more thing here, Clay and I we

934
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 7: got into this a bit, and this is where dogs

935
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 7: and politics crosses over in a real way. I understand

936
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 7: that there's a tendency to dismiss that Joe has and

937
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 7: I'm to be clear, I do not blame the dogs, right,

938
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 7: I do not blame the German shepherds.

939
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: They're bad owners. They're not really bad dogs.

940
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 7: But the dog has bitten the Secret Service, Like what

941
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 7: is it twenty times or forty times?

942
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: There were some crazy number twenty four times, four times,

943
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: twenty four times? That's right, Yeah, that to us. I mean,

944
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: I love dogs. I grew up with dogs like you.

945
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 7: I wish if I could have like a dog rescue

946
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 7: with one hundred dogs that I could take care of,

947
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 7: you know, I would do it. But that to me,

948
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 7: there's something wrong in this White House, and not just

949
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 7: like a little thing, like there's some issue that they're

950
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 7: not dealing with.

951
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're exactly right. There are no bad dogs. There

952
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: are bad dog owners.

953
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 5: Let's be honest.

954
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: Joe Biden can't even take care of himself, let alone

955
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: a dog.

956
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 5: You got Major, who they had to get rid of.

957
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 5: We don't know exactly where.

958
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: A Major is.

959
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: I feel like they gave us Field.

960
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, he went with the family. That's the old line

961
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: you tell people. Whenever something else happens to these dogs,

962
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: then you had Commander twenty for time. Both of these

963
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 3: dogs are biting Secret Service agents. And let's be clear

964
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: about German shepherds. They're among the smartest dogs out there.

965
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: They are very in tune with their owners. They are

966
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: very in tune with the commands they are given. Clearly

967
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 3: they are feeding off of the horrendous energy coming out

968
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: of the White House. Right now, Joe Biden has failed

969
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 3: these dogs. I feel so bad for them, and I'm

970
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: going to put out another PSA wherever Major and Commander are,

971
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: God bless them.

972
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 5: I feel horribly for them.

973
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to go ahead and say that at the

974
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: Trump household will take them because I think they.

975
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 5: Would do great. With my gang, we already got free

976
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 5: might as well.

977
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 7: Making you guys rehaving Biden's mistreated dogs. I would just

978
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 7: say it would be a metaphor on so many levels

979
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 7: for the country right now.

980
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Claig, sorry, you're up next.

981
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, Laar, you are obviously. I'm sure it's

982
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: been crazy to be the daughter in law of the

983
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: President of the United States and find yourself drawn into

984
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: so many of the controversies. As we get ready for

985
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: twenty four, there's tall talk about you with the RNC.

986
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: I know you got two young kids, you got the

987
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: book that's coming out. What in your mind is the

988
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: most effective thing you could do to help Donald Trump

989
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: return to the White House. And what are you trying

990
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: to do from a political perspective to.

991
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: Make that happen.

992
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: Well, I hope as of end of next week I

993
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: will become the co chair of the RNC. There is

994
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: a vote that will take place next week on that.

995
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: And listen, we have to realize that we haven't been

996
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: playing the game the right way against the Democrats. If

997
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: we want to win elections, we have to play chess,

998
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: not checkers. And unfortunately that's what we've been doing in

999
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: large part as Republicans as this party. You know, if

1000
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: I am elected as Coacher of the RNC, I can

1001
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: tell you we are going to have things that you've

1002
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: never seen happen, like legal ballot harvesting across this country.

1003
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 5: We have to encourage people.

1004
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: Although we wish there was one day of voting and

1005
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: we had paper ballots and voter idea everywhere, we.

1006
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: Don't have that. Right now. We have early voting and

1007
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: mail and voting.

1008
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: We got to bank so many votes heading into November

1009
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: fifth of this year that we're not playing catch up

1010
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: on election day. We want to encourage everyone to go

1011
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: vote early. We want to make sure that com election

1012
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 3: Day we don't just have people standing in polling locations.

1013
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: We will have trained pull watchers and lawyers in all

1014
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: of these locations across the country so that they can

1015
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 3: actually physically count ballots that are received and the ballots

1016
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 3: that are going out, and those numbers have to match.

1017
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: We're going to have to play this a little differently.

1018
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: It is time we start winning again. I can guarantee

1019
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: you that is the plan.

1020
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 5: If I am elected.

1021
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: Coachair of the RNC, winning from top to bottom of

1022
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: the ticket, Donald Trump, forty seven presidents, expand our lead

1023
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: in the House and take back the Senate. That's a

1024
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: big win.

1025
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: Laura Buck and I were at mar A Lago in November.

1026
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: We've had Trump on the show Your Father in Law

1027
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: a bunch and so we see him behind the scenes,

1028
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: and we talked about this after we finished the most

1029
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: recent interview. He insisted that we had to take mar

1030
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: Alago milkshakes with us for our drive because they were

1031
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: so good.

1032
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: Our wives were there too, They were good, by the way.

1033
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: They were very good, by the way, but only the best,

1034
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: only the best, that's right. I would imagine as the

1035
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: daughter in law and now you've got grandchildren of President Trump,

1036
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: that when you hear him attacked as Hitler or the

1037
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: most evil man on the planet, and then you contrast

1038
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: it with your own personal relationship with him, that's one

1039
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: of the most staggering things. But I bet when you

1040
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 2: when he's the grandfather of your children, those things probably

1041
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: strike even differently, right. I mean, it has to inspire

1042
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: you to want to get more involved when you see

1043
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: someone who you know is a pretty nice guy and

1044
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: pretty easy going attacked as if he's the worst human

1045
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: being who's ever lived.

1046
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's sadly an understatement. This is

1047
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: it's incredible to see. Yeah, of course, it's personal. This

1048
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: is my family, as you just pointed out, this is

1049
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: my children's grandfather. And to know him as I have

1050
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: for six teen years, believe me, I know the heart of.

1051
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 5: This man, and I know who he truly is.

1052
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: But it's all the more reason that I think this

1053
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: fight is so important, because this is it's so much.

1054
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 5: Bigger than all of us. Obviously, none of us like

1055
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 5: the lies that are spread about him and the.

1056
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: Rest of us out there, but this really is about

1057
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: saving the country for the next generation and for making

1058
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 3: sure they get to grow up in the same America

1059
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: that we all got to grow up in. I think

1060
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: he understands, and he's understood for a long time, that

1061
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: he really is the only person who can do the

1062
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 3: job that needs to be done. That he doesn't care

1063
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: what they say about him, he doesn't care that they

1064
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: try and ultimately destroy him. Look at what they're doing

1065
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: to his life's work, his business. They try to take

1066
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: down his family at every turn, and any collateral damage

1067
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: of any person who has any association with him but

1068
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: I think that's why he understands this fight is so important,

1069
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 3: and it's why it's so important to me and the

1070
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: rest of our family. If we do not ensure that

1071
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is the forty seventh president, I honestly don't

1072
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: know what kind of country we have on the other

1073
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: side of it. If the things that they have done

1074
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 3: to this one man are allowed to stand and they're

1075
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: successful in their attempts to interfere in an election in

1076
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: the way that they have, we really don't have the

1077
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: same country left to our kids. So it's vitally important

1078
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: to me, vitally important to the rest of the family.

1079
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 5: And I give my father in law so much credit.

1080
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 3: No other person would be standing and not just standing,

1081
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: but fighting and looking forward and ready to take on

1082
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: whatever they throw his way.

1083
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 7: Go to bravebooks dot com to get your copy of

1084
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 7: The Never Give Up Pup, which sounds great to me.

1085
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 7: Laura Trump, the author and soon to be running the

1086
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 7: R and C. Laura, thank you for being with us.

1087
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 7: Great to hang with you.

1088
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 5: Thank you guys, great to be with you too. I

1089
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 5: appreciate it.

1090
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 7: Speaking of Pup's Clay who Never Give Up, Ginger who

1091
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 7: makes cameos on this show.

1092
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: She never gives up.

1093
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 7: She always tries to snuggle her way onto the camera

1094
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 7: or up at the microphone. If you're on the live

1095
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 7: stream yesterday, you saw her sitting in the host chair

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