WEBVTT - The Band CAMINO 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.880 Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:06.040 Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan Runt Tug, 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:09.280 but enough about me. My guests today are a band 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.920 that hails from the great state of Tennessee. Since they've 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.360 released the trio of EPs packed with standouts like Daphne 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.079 Blue and Seathrew, now they're gearing up to release their 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.680 self titled LP, due out September ten. They've teased their 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.880 first full length with a string of singles including roses, Sorry, Mom, One, 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.240 Last Cigarette, and most recently, know It All, a refreshingly 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.599 unbitter send off to a former flame after a year 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.279 stuck inside like the rest of us, they're gearing up 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.600 to hit the road this fall, playing a series of 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.600 stadiums with the country duo Dan and Shay, and a 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.360 stint at Bonnaroo in their home state. I'm so happy 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.720 to welcome Jeffrey Jordan's, Spencer Stewart and Harrison Burgess, who 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:52.600 together are known as the band Camino. So you just 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.960 released a new song, No It All, a send off 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.800 to to a former flame, a relationship that didn't work out. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:59.960 Tell me about that track. What's the genesis of that song? 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.080 So we were in um we were on a writing 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.640 retreat in Florida, and uh, we were sitting looking at 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.479 the beach and talking about the concept of the song. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.759 It's like you obviously, like you said, there's an old 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.720 flame and you see her out and you're not necessarily 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.520 like you want her back. It's just you know, you 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.760 kind of are reminiscing on the stories and all the 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.760 things that you know that you know that she didn't 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.080 hasn't told him, you know, maybe because it's not the 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.560 most appropriate thing to to share with your with your 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.200 current uh, your current flame and that comfort level you 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.759 guys had exactly exactly. And I think getting older too, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.280 you just think about like, I don't know, your ex 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.759 is and getting older and you're like, man, like, yeah, 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.360 they have a new thing and a wife for like 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.119 I don't know, having like an ex girlfriend like get 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.520 married or have kids and stuff like that, and you're 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.760 it's weird and you're like, yeah, I know that they're 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.280 probably way closer to that person than they are as 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.640 obviously because they're with them. But there's still things that 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.640 like she's definitely never told it the kind of thing. Yeah, 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.840 and and and it says in the song too. Honestly, 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:01.760 I hope you're happy. I hope you're doing well, but 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.160 it's like, you know, like we've still got some information 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.320 in between us that you know you probably won't share, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.200 and we shared. We shared a time in our life 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.320 too that's like only and it's really specific intimacy. So 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.720 it's like, no matter how far they go, you know, 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.960 you always have a certain connection with them in the 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.520 back of both your minds. This is like one of 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.600 the healthiest breakup songs I think I've ever heard in 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.760 my life. It's it's love to hear that. I'm glad 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.600 you see it that way. Wait, so you mentioned a 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.520 writer's retreat. That sounds awesome. To tell me more about that. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.880 What was just that day, like for that weekend or whatever? 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:37.679 It was Destin We were in Destin, Florida, So we 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.400 rented a beach house and went down with our producer 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.960 and a couple of a couple other writers, like a 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.400 couple of frequent collaborators. Yeah, that we this guy Sethenniest 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.240 that we write a ton with, Like he was like 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.760 one of the Jordan's our producer and seth Innis is 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.919 other writer. He was like one of our best friends. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.280 Now are like the first people we ever wrote with 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:56.880 when we moved to Nashville and we were like we 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.760 should try co writing. Our manager was like, yeah, you 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.040 should grab with my friends. And so our first ever 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.400 co write that we like wrote with anybody and like 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.680 collaborated with like a producer and like another songwriter and stuff. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.120 We wrote Daphnie Blue, which is like one of our 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.200 it's like our song we always close the set with 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.040 now and like it was our first ever like co 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.480 write with these same guys pretty much, so it was 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.200 to them and then, um, this guy Jeff Warburton is 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.320 an insane writer and just like a great hang. So 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.400 we kind of have our like our boys that we 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.360 are go too is that we just like collap with 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.280 and like make music with. So yeah, I feel like 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.800 there's a there's you know, you might disagree with me, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.120 but I feel like I feel like they are the 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.880 the honorary band Comuno members there and they're they're always around. Yeah. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:42.200 They are heavy influence, Yeah, heavy influence. The community. The direction. YEA, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.880 what's gonna ask? I mean, you started out in Memphis, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.280 what was that transition like going to Nashville, which seems 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.960 it's such as you mentioned such an insanely collaborative musical place, Like, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.400 what was that like getting integrated in uh? In that community? 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.680 Well a lot different than Memphis. Memphis is like I 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.000 always say, like it's like I love being from Memphis. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.560 I love Memphis. Um Like we've Memphis tattooed on my 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.280 arm right here, and it's like I think with me 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.520 and Spencer Garrison were actually born in Memphis two but 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.400 then he moved away when he was like what five 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.160 months later him, I was three years old, and then 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.760 my parents we moved to Arkansas from my dad's job. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.800 So your dad went to Memphis with me. I was 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:24.000 born there. So the soul, the soul was full blooded Memphis. Yeah, exactly. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.719 Memphis is a very is I'd say, it's like it's 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.600 like so talented as far as like musicianship and like 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.400 playing live. It taught us a lot about just like 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.159 some of the coldest musicians I've ever met in my 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.360 wife are all from Memphis, and like growing up around 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.640 that and just hearing these insane players and gospel musicians 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.360 and blues musicians and like in college it was very 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.360 like whoa, everyone is better than me and that kind 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.000 of thing. And it just made us like, you can't 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:49.919 really fake like the live show and stuff like that, 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.719 so it kind of can. I don't know. It helped 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.920 us become students of our instruments more because I was 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.680 always just like I wanted to be a songwriter and 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.320 write songs, and then I kind of got to college 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:58.599 and was like, well I need to I need to 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.360 practice guitar, so like I don't know, and then Nashville 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.160 moving here, it's more of a collaborative seen as far 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.880 as artistry, I think Memphis is more like independent when 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.000 it comes to artistry and more collaborative when it comes 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.520 to like a musicianship. In here, it's almost the opposite 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.520 of like more collaborative of like your songwriting and like 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.320 just getting into sessions with whoever and just making music. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:22.039 And it's like it's definitely different, but still maintained some 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.640 similar threads. I guess no at all. In the new 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.800 single off your upcoming debut LP, how much this was 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.960 put together during the pandemic or a pre pandemic, because 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.560 you guys, we went went down the Texas. Yeah, I'll passo, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.680 I'll passo Texas to record. So the original plan was 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.400 we're gonna do Dan and Shay, and then in the 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.719 fall we were supposed to go out with five Seconds 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.280 of Summer. So obviously none of that ended up happening 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.440 other than three shows with Dan Shape, but so we 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.320 kind of changed our plans because we weren't planting on 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.760 doing the record until this summer originally. So yeah, we 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.960 I mean, we had a lot of songs written before 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.279 the pandemic, pre pandemic, but during the pandemic, we really 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.159 kind of since we have anything else to do, we 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.080 set a date when we were going to go down 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.239 to it. It's in the city right out of Help Pasa, 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.760 It's help Pornello. It's a place by Sonic Ranch. So 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.480 we like set a date that we're gonna go. We're 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.440 gonna go for a month with our producer and like 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.280 just crush it and like do it all in a month. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.240 So we wrote a lot like in preparation for that. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.800 So we're just trying to beat songs, make new cool, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.080 good story songs. This one, no, it all specifically we 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.760 wrote pre pandemic. We write we wrote it like what 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.000 was it in January? Was that January? No, we wrote 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.159 this at the beach. Yeah, it was May of last 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.120 May nineteen. This was like and you were supposed to 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.320 go to just to go to Colorado in this writing trip, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.160 that's what. And um, we were gonna like go down 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:42.920 and like have kind of like a I don't know 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.760 if maybe it was April, we were gonna go ski 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.000 and snowboard and like it always kind of helps to 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.080 get away and like I don't know, stay somewhere for 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.919 a few days and it helps, like it just helps 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.000 switch up your whole your brain juices and stuff. But 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.920 so with with the pandemic and stuff, we just ended 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.520 up getting a house so we can kind of like 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:00.280 keep it to our own crew that we been with. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.080 Were anything else that we wrote Everybody Dies, which is 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.960 a track on this record, I guess, but I guess 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.920 the track listing is now out because you can have 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:08.920 you can order the records, so the track list was out. Yeah, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.040 we wrote a song what Everybody Dies that same week 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.040 that was like April and may get it your ways 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.360 on there we were we were, we wrote we mean 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.480 this week. There was a lot of that we got 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.880 done during that during the pandemic. Yeah, I'd say as 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.360 far as like how the record got written, it once 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.480 we kind of booked those studio dates. We went down 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.080 the middle of August and safe for months. It's like 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.200 August and September, we've been right, I mean, we've been 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.320 writing songs for so long being like oh, this is 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:35.920 gonna be on the album. This will be on the album, 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.200 like could We've been a band for six years now 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.240 almost working towards this moment of getting to record our 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.400 first like full length, self titled debut album like fourteen songs, 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.960 and once we had those dates on the calendar of 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.880 like whoa, this is when it's we're going. So it 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.080 really put us into like hustle mode as far as 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:53.920 like there were days we were writing like two songs 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.680 a day, three songs a day over the summer, just 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.000 like writing all we were right, like we couldn't stop. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:07:59.640 But it was a great feeling. It was like, Okay, 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.840 we have this date to like leave Nashville and go 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.120 to the studio. It's like how many songs can we write? 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.120 How can we get the best songs and how can 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:08.960 we like and we kept just like writing more and 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.040 more songs, and it came down to like a dropbox. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.080 We had so many songs, but it came down like 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.880 a dropbox of maybe like fortysomething songs that were like 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.000 we're trying to pick from to narrow down to like 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.679 fifteen ish, and so we made we made a list 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.800 of all the songs and it was like, I'll die 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.200 for this song, I love this song, I like the 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.000 song no. And we all went through and went through 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.800 each song and listen to the demo and talked about it, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.240 and we all like put our check mark on the board, 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.520 like I'll die for this. I died for way too many. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.200 I died for like more than we could even put 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.559 on the record. But that that was the hardest part. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.640 It's like picking out the record because it's like this 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.800 record could look so many different ways based on the 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.280 songs that we wrote beforehand. With it was like before 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.200 we moved to Nashville, it's like, Okay, we wrote these songs, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.960 We're gonna go to the studio and recorom. And now 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.560 it's like we've kind of learned to turn on this 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.080 collaborative creative just like write a song every day and 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.800 like put ourselves in as many creative situations as possible, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.719 Like Spencer will go write a song with like some 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.480 friends of his or some of the co writers who 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.920 I'll write a song with it, and then we'll all 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.640 three go write a song with a different track guy producer, 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.000 and just like switch up the scenario every time and 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.720 just keep keep flipping over stones and trying to get 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.440 just as many different kind of angles as possible because 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.760 you never know. Like this is one example, right before 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.880 we left for the studio, when we were sitting down 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.480 to pick this list of songs, Spencer was like, Oh, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.120 I have this song I wrote yesterday with Jordan, our producer, 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.920 and Jeff Warbert and the guy we were talking about earlier, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.120 and he we I had already made like our lists 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:38.640 and stuff of what we all wanted to be on 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.320 the record, and he played this demo and the song 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.760 was one Last Cigarette and I've never even heard that song, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.319 and we were like about to pick all the songs 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:48.679 and it was like, oh my god, not on we 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.560 have to pick And that was like the second single. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.960 So it's like, it's crazy because that one made the list. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.920 Like the day, the last experience, extremely last seconds, very 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:03.240 uh indicative of me as personally, very procrastinator, last last minute, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.120 all my best works at the very last, And it 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.480 also just goes to show We've always kind of said, like, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.040 you know, the best song wins, and and we write 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.600 so much like the fact the fact of the matter 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.240 is we have a surplus of songs. We can make 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.280 two to three more records full links if we really 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.560 wanted to. But like it's you know, are we all 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.000 in on this? Like is every single song on this 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.800 record something that we would all put our chips in for? 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.280 You know what I'm saying like that each of those 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.800 songs are special to each of us for different reasons, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.560 but that's why they got chosen, and a lot of 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.079 it did come down to, especially for that song, how 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:38.840 is it going to come across live? Like, how are 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.199 we gonna how is this going to perform? Is this 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.080 gonna like affect people and hit people the same the 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.120 way that we're kind of hoping our first record is 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.240 going to do. It makes like a statement. Yeah, since 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.679 it's a self titled record, we really want as close 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.200 to who we are and right now, you know, as 0:10:53.360 --> 0:11:04.360 as caught as soon as possible. I mean you said earlier, 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.400 writing two to three songs a day, I mean for 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.680 someone like me who's never written a song in their life, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.680 that sounds like absolute madness. To me, and do you 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.640 find that the best songs come quickly they just sort 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.480 of fall out almost fully fleshed out, or is it 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.760 different every time? Times? It's different almost every time. I 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.880 feel like with one last cigarette, feel like I remember 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.800 you saying like you they like wrote it and they 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.240 were kind of it was kind of like they were 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.240 all tired and like, yeah, it was like we had 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.120 all been bailed on or like they had like a 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.280 all right canceled and like everyone which just kind of 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.560 not in like a bad mood, but just kind of 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.040 in like a fuck it whatever kind of mood and 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.200 like so and then yeah, Warburton had a like just 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.880 a little acoustic star riff. We're like, I mean I 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.280 guess or why not? And no, it all, no, it 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.360 all is the same way like we were. We didn't 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.240 even finish writing that song until we were in the 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.079 studio recording it. Like we recorded all that. We pretty 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.280 much had the instrumentation, but we were like still not 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.840 super sold on all of the lyrics. We like, we're 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.600 we spent a lot of we spent like multiple days 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.760 rewriting you know it all a couple of times. Yeah, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.840 because like we we kind of all had like our 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.920 ten that we're like we'll die for it like these 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:12.760 are and then like the last like four or five 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.960 was like all this could be like a bunch of 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.160 different combinations, and so we kind of got down to 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.000 the studio and like, let's just try to start tracking 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.120 the ones we know. We have this list of like 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.120 eight that we want to pick like four or five 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.440 from and we're gonna feel kind of feel out how 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.640 it's going in there in the room and like so 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.120 that no, it all was kind of one of those 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.480 ones that was like Okay, we we like, we like 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.280 the song, but we want to tweak it, like I 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.400 feel like it needs changes, it needs like the demo 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.760 is a lot different than the final cut. It was 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.160 cool because we got down there and we were just 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.360 feeling the feeling the creativity and energy downe writing a 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.440 way of like man, we're making our album, and like 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.400 every all the ideas that were coming out, we're like 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.840 they just felt like it felt right. It felt like 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.839 they were there to stay. Yeah, but what but to 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.839 speak to her what you're saying. A lot of a 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.360 lot of them ended up they just came out. A 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:55.880 lot of them were like two or three our rights 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.520 which is pretty quick for for a right. But you know, 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.960 once you get on a good idea and you're like 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.600 have a good energy in the room and everyone's kind 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.800 of vibe and it's a lot of the time they 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.840 will just kind of fall out and everyone like, well, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.520 they'll stand the test of time. Yeah, So it's got, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.880 it's it's both, it's there there, it goes both wise, 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.600 and I won't say writing two to three songs days 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.599 something I hardly ever knew. It was like there was 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.640 like a two week period right there before the end 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.280 of the kind of the cut off period of like, okay, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.280 we need to start picking songs and like preprolling songs 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.880 and figuring out how what we're gonna kind of the 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.160 way we're gonna track it for the two weeks kind 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.040 of before we leave, so like we need to we 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:33.560 kind of need to cut off and at least make 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.840 a pretty final list of what we're gonna do and 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.640 I'll pass out. So it was like right before that 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.920 cut off period, I feel like we were just dry. Yeah, 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.880 we were. We were putting put in some work, but 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.120 it was so fun. It was fun. Looking back on it, 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.960 it's probably the best part because you're just like because yeah, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.480 I don't know how, I don't know when we'll be 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.600 able to do that again, or like go spend a 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.640 month at a recording studio or even be able to 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.000 book a month at a recording studios continuously. Yeah, I 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:59.480 was gonna say. I And the fact that everything is 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.840 sort of stopped or at least slowed down in the 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.760 last year. Was that a blessing or a curse? Did 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.160 that make it so that you you found yourself almost 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.839 second guessing like every single part, like the bass part 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.920 of the trump out, the guitar part, and really like 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.600 because you have so much time to really go deep 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.400 on every element of it. Or was it Was it 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.040 more of a positive for you? Is it it really 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.120 give you a chance to really polish it and make 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.680 it exactly how you wanted it. Probably a little both, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.400 But I'd say, like as far as just the studio vibe, 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.720 like a month sounds like a long time, But we 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.760 we really like the way we tracked it. We just 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.640 started off and we would try to finish the song 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.720 a day just to track like the instrumentation from the top, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.840 So like the first two weeks was just like a 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.200 song a day, just getting like the basic instrumentation down, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.160 and then like the second two weeks was like going 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.560 back through and finishing and putting vocals and putting like finals. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.440 So it's really we kind of had like two days 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:52.800 per song, which really isn't like that much time to 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.400 like make a full song like the way that you 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.960 want to put it out into the world. So like 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.320 it still wasn't even that much time we were I 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.680 felt like we were like burning the candle the whole 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.360 time we were there, just like and kyd of just 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.520 moving with it and trying to trust our first instincts 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.400 instead of being like, oh, let's do this base part 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.240 eighty nine times, it was like, no, that was sick 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.160 what you played the first time, but that was it. Yeah, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.160 let's leave it. Like and that's where it's kind of 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.200 nice to have a have a producer that we trust 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.400 as well, Georgie Smith, like when he says he's really 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.800 good at finishing project, like he's really getting staying like 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.200 let's stop here, like that's that was great. I don't 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:25.560 think we're gonna beat that. We can try this a 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.880 hundred more times, but I don't think it's gonna be 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.120 the same. So that was it. It was good to 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.280 have him there as well for that for that purpose, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.840 and I feel like the whole year, I mean, like 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.040 Jeff was saying, it was, it's a little bit of both, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:42.560 because when we scheduled the studio dates, like a switch 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.640 is flipped and everybody was just like, I on the prize, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.480 we're going there, We're doing that. Like I don't know, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.760 I don't know if when we picked a studio date, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:55.080 I second guest anything until maybe the last week of 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.000 the of the studio time, where I was like, is 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.160 that okay? Like is cool, because as soon as we 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.880 got there, it was just balls to the wall. Everybody's 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.520 just running and running and gunning, ready to go. So, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.200 like like Jeff is in, it is a little bit 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.960 of both. But we were already like we we had 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.640 been in quarantine for four months five and we had 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.520 done pre production and stuff like that to try to 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.760 get it all as styled before we went, Like obviously 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:24.200 we wanted to leave some space for you for creations 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.600 and stuff as well, but like we had made made 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.200 a lot of decisions before we we even yeah, we'd 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.560 even gone, So that was that was helpful as well. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.840 I love how the guitar is just front and center, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.200 especially on a track like like One Last Cigarette and 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.400 I read this is total guitar nursery. There's a sim, 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.120 a helix sim that you have that makes an electric 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.160 guitar sound acoustic. I've never even heard of that. Can 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.840 you tell me more about that? It sounds awesome. Did 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.480 you see are the One Last Cigarette live? We did? Yes, Yes, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.720 I did, yes, yes, Jimmy Kimbell. Yeah, and I'm playing 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:58.080 I'm playing the telly and it sounds like the acoustic 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.800 and it's crazy. It's a yeah, it's a helix passion. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.880 They just came out with a bunch of acoustic sims 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.160 and like a lot of them are I think made 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.680 for like running an acoustic through but if you run 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.480 an electric through it, it sounds like we kind of 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.280 had to tweak it a little bit, but like we 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.399 got it pretty close. And like that that guitar on 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:20.199 like on Kimmel is the electric and it's and like 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.600 people are commenting like, oh, this is this sounds like 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.760