Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the
Speaker 1: Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan Runt Tug,
Speaker 1: but enough about me. My guests today are a band
Speaker 1: that hails from the great state of Tennessee. Since they've
Speaker 1: released the trio of EPs packed with standouts like Daphne
Speaker 1: Blue and Seathrew, now they're gearing up to release their
Speaker 1: self titled LP, due out September ten. They've teased their
Speaker 1: first full length with a string of singles including roses, Sorry, Mom, One,
Speaker 1: Last Cigarette, and most recently, know It All, a refreshingly
Speaker 1: unbitter send off to a former flame after a year
Speaker 1: stuck inside like the rest of us, they're gearing up
Speaker 1: to hit the road this fall, playing a series of
Speaker 1: stadiums with the country duo Dan and Shay, and a
Speaker 1: stint at Bonnaroo in their home state. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: to welcome Jeffrey Jordan's, Spencer Stewart and Harrison Burgess, who
Speaker 1: together are known as the band Camino. So you just
Speaker 1: released a new song, No It All, a send off
Speaker 1: to to a former flame, a relationship that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Tell me about that track. What's the genesis of that song?
Speaker 1: So we were in um we were on a writing
Speaker 1: retreat in Florida, and uh, we were sitting looking at
Speaker 1: the beach and talking about the concept of the song.
Speaker 1: It's like you obviously, like you said, there's an old
Speaker 1: flame and you see her out and you're not necessarily
Speaker 1: like you want her back. It's just you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of are reminiscing on the stories and all the
Speaker 1: things that you know that you know that she didn't
Speaker 1: hasn't told him, you know, maybe because it's not the
Speaker 1: most appropriate thing to to share with your with your
Speaker 1: current uh, your current flame and that comfort level you
Speaker 1: guys had exactly exactly. And I think getting older too,
Speaker 1: you just think about like, I don't know, your ex
Speaker 1: is and getting older and you're like, man, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have a new thing and a wife for like
Speaker 1: I don't know, having like an ex girlfriend like get
Speaker 1: married or have kids and stuff like that, and you're
Speaker 1: it's weird and you're like, yeah, I know that they're
Speaker 1: probably way closer to that person than they are as
Speaker 1: obviously because they're with them. But there's still things that
Speaker 1: like she's definitely never told it the kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and it says in the song too. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I hope you're happy. I hope you're doing well, but
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, like we've still got some information
Speaker 1: in between us that you know you probably won't share,
Speaker 1: and we shared. We shared a time in our life
Speaker 1: too that's like only and it's really specific intimacy. So
Speaker 1: it's like, no matter how far they go, you know,
Speaker 1: you always have a certain connection with them in the
Speaker 1: back of both your minds. This is like one of
Speaker 1: the healthiest breakup songs I think I've ever heard in
Speaker 1: my life. It's it's love to hear that. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you see it that way. Wait, so you mentioned a
Speaker 1: writer's retreat. That sounds awesome. To tell me more about that.
Speaker 1: What was just that day, like for that weekend or whatever?
Speaker 1: It was Destin We were in Destin, Florida, So we
Speaker 1: rented a beach house and went down with our producer
Speaker 1: and a couple of a couple other writers, like a
Speaker 1: couple of frequent collaborators. Yeah, that we this guy Sethenniest
Speaker 1: that we write a ton with, Like he was like
Speaker 1: one of the Jordan's our producer and seth Innis is
Speaker 1: other writer. He was like one of our best friends.
Speaker 1: Now are like the first people we ever wrote with
Speaker 1: when we moved to Nashville and we were like we
Speaker 1: should try co writing. Our manager was like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: should grab with my friends. And so our first ever
Speaker 1: co write that we like wrote with anybody and like
Speaker 1: collaborated with like a producer and like another songwriter and stuff.
Speaker 1: We wrote Daphnie Blue, which is like one of our
Speaker 1: it's like our song we always close the set with
Speaker 1: now and like it was our first ever like co
Speaker 1: write with these same guys pretty much, so it was
Speaker 1: to them and then, um, this guy Jeff Warburton is
Speaker 1: an insane writer and just like a great hang. So
Speaker 1: we kind of have our like our boys that we
Speaker 1: are go too is that we just like collap with
Speaker 1: and like make music with. So yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a there's you know, you might disagree with me,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I feel like they are the
Speaker 1: the honorary band Comuno members there and they're they're always around. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They are heavy influence, Yeah, heavy influence. The community. The direction. YEA,
Speaker 1: what's gonna ask? I mean, you started out in Memphis,
Speaker 1: what was that transition like going to Nashville, which seems
Speaker 1: it's such as you mentioned such an insanely collaborative musical place, Like,
Speaker 1: what was that like getting integrated in uh? In that community?
Speaker 1: Well a lot different than Memphis. Memphis is like I
Speaker 1: always say, like it's like I love being from Memphis.
Speaker 1: I love Memphis. Um Like we've Memphis tattooed on my
Speaker 1: arm right here, and it's like I think with me
Speaker 1: and Spencer Garrison were actually born in Memphis two but
Speaker 1: then he moved away when he was like what five
Speaker 1: months later him, I was three years old, and then
Speaker 1: my parents we moved to Arkansas from my dad's job.
Speaker 1: So your dad went to Memphis with me. I was
Speaker 1: born there. So the soul, the soul was full blooded Memphis. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Memphis is a very is I'd say, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like so talented as far as like musicianship and like
Speaker 1: playing live. It taught us a lot about just like
Speaker 1: some of the coldest musicians I've ever met in my
Speaker 1: wife are all from Memphis, and like growing up around
Speaker 1: that and just hearing these insane players and gospel musicians
Speaker 1: and blues musicians and like in college it was very
Speaker 1: like whoa, everyone is better than me and that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And it just made us like, you can't
Speaker 1: really fake like the live show and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: so it kind of can. I don't know. It helped
Speaker 1: us become students of our instruments more because I was
Speaker 1: always just like I wanted to be a songwriter and
Speaker 1: write songs, and then I kind of got to college
Speaker 1: and was like, well I need to I need to
Speaker 1: practice guitar, so like I don't know, and then Nashville
Speaker 1: moving here, it's more of a collaborative seen as far
Speaker 1: as artistry, I think Memphis is more like independent when
Speaker 1: it comes to artistry and more collaborative when it comes
Speaker 1: to like a musicianship. In here, it's almost the opposite
Speaker 1: of like more collaborative of like your songwriting and like
Speaker 1: just getting into sessions with whoever and just making music.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's definitely different, but still maintained some
Speaker 1: similar threads. I guess no at all. In the new
Speaker 1: single off your upcoming debut LP, how much this was
Speaker 1: put together during the pandemic or a pre pandemic, because
Speaker 1: you guys, we went went down the Texas. Yeah, I'll passo,
Speaker 1: I'll passo Texas to record. So the original plan was
Speaker 1: we're gonna do Dan and Shay, and then in the
Speaker 1: fall we were supposed to go out with five Seconds
Speaker 1: of Summer. So obviously none of that ended up happening
Speaker 1: other than three shows with Dan Shape, but so we
Speaker 1: kind of changed our plans because we weren't planting on
Speaker 1: doing the record until this summer originally. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a lot of songs written before
Speaker 1: the pandemic, pre pandemic, but during the pandemic, we really
Speaker 1: kind of since we have anything else to do, we
Speaker 1: set a date when we were going to go down
Speaker 1: to it. It's in the city right out of Help Pasa,
Speaker 1: It's help Pornello. It's a place by Sonic Ranch. So
Speaker 1: we like set a date that we're gonna go. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go for a month with our producer and like
Speaker 1: just crush it and like do it all in a month.
Speaker 1: So we wrote a lot like in preparation for that.
Speaker 1: So we're just trying to beat songs, make new cool,
Speaker 1: good story songs. This one, no, it all specifically we
Speaker 1: wrote pre pandemic. We write we wrote it like what
Speaker 1: was it in January? Was that January? No, we wrote
Speaker 1: this at the beach. Yeah, it was May of last
Speaker 1: May nineteen. This was like and you were supposed to
Speaker 1: go to just to go to Colorado in this writing trip,
Speaker 1: that's what. And um, we were gonna like go down
Speaker 1: and like have kind of like a I don't know
Speaker 1: if maybe it was April, we were gonna go ski
Speaker 1: and snowboard and like it always kind of helps to
Speaker 1: get away and like I don't know, stay somewhere for
Speaker 1: a few days and it helps, like it just helps
Speaker 1: switch up your whole your brain juices and stuff. But
Speaker 1: so with with the pandemic and stuff, we just ended
Speaker 1: up getting a house so we can kind of like
Speaker 1: keep it to our own crew that we been with.
Speaker 1: Were anything else that we wrote Everybody Dies, which is
Speaker 1: a track on this record, I guess, but I guess
Speaker 1: the track listing is now out because you can have
Speaker 1: you can order the records, so the track list was out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we wrote a song what Everybody Dies that same week
Speaker 1: that was like April and may get it your ways
Speaker 1: on there we were we were, we wrote we mean
Speaker 1: this week. There was a lot of that we got
Speaker 1: done during that during the pandemic. Yeah, I'd say as
Speaker 1: far as like how the record got written, it once
Speaker 1: we kind of booked those studio dates. We went down
Speaker 1: the middle of August and safe for months. It's like
Speaker 1: August and September, we've been right, I mean, we've been
Speaker 1: writing songs for so long being like oh, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be on the album. This will be on the album,
Speaker 1: like could We've been a band for six years now
Speaker 1: almost working towards this moment of getting to record our
Speaker 1: first like full length, self titled debut album like fourteen songs,
Speaker 1: and once we had those dates on the calendar of
Speaker 1: like whoa, this is when it's we're going. So it
Speaker 1: really put us into like hustle mode as far as
Speaker 1: like there were days we were writing like two songs
Speaker 1: a day, three songs a day over the summer, just
Speaker 1: like writing all we were right, like we couldn't stop.
Speaker 1: But it was a great feeling. It was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we have this date to like leave Nashville and go
Speaker 1: to the studio. It's like how many songs can we write?
Speaker 1: How can we get the best songs and how can
Speaker 1: we like and we kept just like writing more and
Speaker 1: more songs, and it came down to like a dropbox.
Speaker 1: We had so many songs, but it came down like
Speaker 1: a dropbox of maybe like fortysomething songs that were like
Speaker 1: we're trying to pick from to narrow down to like
Speaker 1: fifteen ish, and so we made we made a list
Speaker 1: of all the songs and it was like, I'll die
Speaker 1: for this song, I love this song, I like the
Speaker 1: song no. And we all went through and went through
Speaker 1: each song and listen to the demo and talked about it,
Speaker 1: and we all like put our check mark on the board,
Speaker 1: like I'll die for this. I died for way too many.
Speaker 1: I died for like more than we could even put
Speaker 1: on the record. But that that was the hardest part.
Speaker 1: It's like picking out the record because it's like this
Speaker 1: record could look so many different ways based on the
Speaker 1: songs that we wrote beforehand. With it was like before
Speaker 1: we moved to Nashville, it's like, Okay, we wrote these songs,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the studio and recorom. And now
Speaker 1: it's like we've kind of learned to turn on this
Speaker 1: collaborative creative just like write a song every day and
Speaker 1: like put ourselves in as many creative situations as possible,
Speaker 1: Like Spencer will go write a song with like some
Speaker 1: friends of his or some of the co writers who
Speaker 1: I'll write a song with it, and then we'll all
Speaker 1: three go write a song with a different track guy producer,
Speaker 1: and just like switch up the scenario every time and
Speaker 1: just keep keep flipping over stones and trying to get
Speaker 1: just as many different kind of angles as possible because
Speaker 1: you never know. Like this is one example, right before
Speaker 1: we left for the studio, when we were sitting down
Speaker 1: to pick this list of songs, Spencer was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I have this song I wrote yesterday with Jordan, our producer,
Speaker 1: and Jeff Warbert and the guy we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 1: and he we I had already made like our lists
Speaker 1: and stuff of what we all wanted to be on
Speaker 1: the record, and he played this demo and the song
Speaker 1: was one Last Cigarette and I've never even heard that song,
Speaker 1: and we were like about to pick all the songs
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh my god, not on we
Speaker 1: have to pick And that was like the second single.
Speaker 1: So it's like, it's crazy because that one made the list.
Speaker 1: Like the day, the last experience, extremely last seconds, very
Speaker 1: uh indicative of me as personally, very procrastinator, last last minute,
Speaker 1: all my best works at the very last, And it
Speaker 1: also just goes to show We've always kind of said, like,
Speaker 1: you know, the best song wins, and and we write
Speaker 1: so much like the fact the fact of the matter
Speaker 1: is we have a surplus of songs. We can make
Speaker 1: two to three more records full links if we really
Speaker 1: wanted to. But like it's you know, are we all
Speaker 1: in on this? Like is every single song on this
Speaker 1: record something that we would all put our chips in for?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like that each of those
Speaker 1: songs are special to each of us for different reasons,
Speaker 1: but that's why they got chosen, and a lot of
Speaker 1: it did come down to, especially for that song, how
Speaker 1: is it going to come across live? Like, how are
Speaker 1: we gonna how is this going to perform? Is this
Speaker 1: gonna like affect people and hit people the same the
Speaker 1: way that we're kind of hoping our first record is
Speaker 1: going to do. It makes like a statement. Yeah, since
Speaker 1: it's a self titled record, we really want as close
Speaker 1: to who we are and right now, you know, as
Speaker 1: as caught as soon as possible. I mean you said earlier,
Speaker 1: writing two to three songs a day, I mean for
Speaker 1: someone like me who's never written a song in their life,
Speaker 1: that sounds like absolute madness. To me, and do you
Speaker 1: find that the best songs come quickly they just sort
Speaker 1: of fall out almost fully fleshed out, or is it
Speaker 1: different every time? Times? It's different almost every time. I
Speaker 1: feel like with one last cigarette, feel like I remember
Speaker 1: you saying like you they like wrote it and they
Speaker 1: were kind of it was kind of like they were
Speaker 1: all tired and like, yeah, it was like we had
Speaker 1: all been bailed on or like they had like a
Speaker 1: all right canceled and like everyone which just kind of
Speaker 1: not in like a bad mood, but just kind of
Speaker 1: in like a fuck it whatever kind of mood and
Speaker 1: like so and then yeah, Warburton had a like just
Speaker 1: a little acoustic star riff. We're like, I mean I
Speaker 1: guess or why not? And no, it all, no, it
Speaker 1: all is the same way like we were. We didn't
Speaker 1: even finish writing that song until we were in the
Speaker 1: studio recording it. Like we recorded all that. We pretty
Speaker 1: much had the instrumentation, but we were like still not
Speaker 1: super sold on all of the lyrics. We like, we're
Speaker 1: we spent a lot of we spent like multiple days
Speaker 1: rewriting you know it all a couple of times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because like we we kind of all had like our
Speaker 1: ten that we're like we'll die for it like these
Speaker 1: are and then like the last like four or five
Speaker 1: was like all this could be like a bunch of
Speaker 1: different combinations, and so we kind of got down to
Speaker 1: the studio and like, let's just try to start tracking
Speaker 1: the ones we know. We have this list of like
Speaker 1: eight that we want to pick like four or five
Speaker 1: from and we're gonna feel kind of feel out how
Speaker 1: it's going in there in the room and like so
Speaker 1: that no, it all was kind of one of those
Speaker 1: ones that was like Okay, we we like, we like
Speaker 1: the song, but we want to tweak it, like I
Speaker 1: feel like it needs changes, it needs like the demo
Speaker 1: is a lot different than the final cut. It was
Speaker 1: cool because we got down there and we were just
Speaker 1: feeling the feeling the creativity and energy downe writing a
Speaker 1: way of like man, we're making our album, and like
Speaker 1: every all the ideas that were coming out, we're like
Speaker 1: they just felt like it felt right. It felt like
Speaker 1: they were there to stay. Yeah, but what but to
Speaker 1: speak to her what you're saying. A lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of them ended up they just came out. A
Speaker 1: lot of them were like two or three our rights
Speaker 1: which is pretty quick for for a right. But you know,
Speaker 1: once you get on a good idea and you're like
Speaker 1: have a good energy in the room and everyone's kind
Speaker 1: of vibe and it's a lot of the time they
Speaker 1: will just kind of fall out and everyone like, well,
Speaker 1: they'll stand the test of time. Yeah, So it's got,
Speaker 1: it's it's both, it's there there, it goes both wise,
Speaker 1: and I won't say writing two to three songs days
Speaker 1: something I hardly ever knew. It was like there was
Speaker 1: like a two week period right there before the end
Speaker 1: of the kind of the cut off period of like, okay,
Speaker 1: we need to start picking songs and like preprolling songs
Speaker 1: and figuring out how what we're gonna kind of the
Speaker 1: way we're gonna track it for the two weeks kind
Speaker 1: of before we leave, so like we need to we
Speaker 1: kind of need to cut off and at least make
Speaker 1: a pretty final list of what we're gonna do and
Speaker 1: I'll pass out. So it was like right before that
Speaker 1: cut off period, I feel like we were just dry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were. We were putting put in some work, but
Speaker 1: it was so fun. It was fun. Looking back on it,
Speaker 1: it's probably the best part because you're just like because yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't know when we'll be
Speaker 1: able to do that again, or like go spend a
Speaker 1: month at a recording studio or even be able to
Speaker 1: book a month at a recording studios continuously. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I And the fact that everything is
Speaker 1: sort of stopped or at least slowed down in the
Speaker 1: last year. Was that a blessing or a curse? Did
Speaker 1: that make it so that you you found yourself almost
Speaker 1: second guessing like every single part, like the bass part
Speaker 1: of the trump out, the guitar part, and really like
Speaker 1: because you have so much time to really go deep
Speaker 1: on every element of it. Or was it Was it
Speaker 1: more of a positive for you? Is it it really
Speaker 1: give you a chance to really polish it and make
Speaker 1: it exactly how you wanted it. Probably a little both,
Speaker 1: But I'd say, like as far as just the studio vibe,
Speaker 1: like a month sounds like a long time, But we
Speaker 1: we really like the way we tracked it. We just
Speaker 1: started off and we would try to finish the song
Speaker 1: a day just to track like the instrumentation from the top,
Speaker 1: So like the first two weeks was just like a
Speaker 1: song a day, just getting like the basic instrumentation down,
Speaker 1: and then like the second two weeks was like going
Speaker 1: back through and finishing and putting vocals and putting like finals.
Speaker 1: So it's really we kind of had like two days
Speaker 1: per song, which really isn't like that much time to
Speaker 1: like make a full song like the way that you
Speaker 1: want to put it out into the world. So like
Speaker 1: it still wasn't even that much time we were I
Speaker 1: felt like we were like burning the candle the whole
Speaker 1: time we were there, just like and kyd of just
Speaker 1: moving with it and trying to trust our first instincts
Speaker 1: instead of being like, oh, let's do this base part
Speaker 1: eighty nine times, it was like, no, that was sick
Speaker 1: what you played the first time, but that was it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's leave it. Like and that's where it's kind of
Speaker 1: nice to have a have a producer that we trust
Speaker 1: as well, Georgie Smith, like when he says he's really
Speaker 1: good at finishing project, like he's really getting staying like
Speaker 1: let's stop here, like that's that was great. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're gonna beat that. We can try this a
Speaker 1: hundred more times, but I don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the same. So that was it. It was good to
Speaker 1: have him there as well for that for that purpose,
Speaker 1: and I feel like the whole year, I mean, like
Speaker 1: Jeff was saying, it was, it's a little bit of both,
Speaker 1: because when we scheduled the studio dates, like a switch
Speaker 1: is flipped and everybody was just like, I on the prize,
Speaker 1: we're going there, We're doing that. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if when we picked a studio date,
Speaker 1: I second guest anything until maybe the last week of
Speaker 1: the of the studio time, where I was like, is
Speaker 1: that okay? Like is cool, because as soon as we
Speaker 1: got there, it was just balls to the wall. Everybody's
Speaker 1: just running and running and gunning, ready to go. So,
Speaker 1: like like Jeff is in, it is a little bit
Speaker 1: of both. But we were already like we we had
Speaker 1: been in quarantine for four months five and we had
Speaker 1: done pre production and stuff like that to try to
Speaker 1: get it all as styled before we went, Like obviously
Speaker 1: we wanted to leave some space for you for creations
Speaker 1: and stuff as well, but like we had made made
Speaker 1: a lot of decisions before we we even yeah, we'd
Speaker 1: even gone, So that was that was helpful as well.
Speaker 1: I love how the guitar is just front and center,
Speaker 1: especially on a track like like One Last Cigarette and
Speaker 1: I read this is total guitar nursery. There's a sim,
Speaker 1: a helix sim that you have that makes an electric
Speaker 1: guitar sound acoustic. I've never even heard of that. Can
Speaker 1: you tell me more about that? It sounds awesome. Did
Speaker 1: you see are the One Last Cigarette live? We did? Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: I did, yes, yes, Jimmy Kimbell. Yeah, and I'm playing
Speaker 1: I'm playing the telly and it sounds like the acoustic
Speaker 1: and it's crazy. It's a yeah, it's a helix passion.
Speaker 1: They just came out with a bunch of acoustic sims
Speaker 1: and like a lot of them are I think made
Speaker 1: for like running an acoustic through but if you run
Speaker 1: an electric through it, it sounds like we kind of
Speaker 1: had to tweak it a little bit, but like we
Speaker 1: got it pretty close. And like that that guitar on
Speaker 1: like on Kimmel is the electric and it's and like
Speaker 1: people are commenting like, oh, this is this sounds like
Speaker 1: this sounds like an acoustic and he's playing electric. This
Speaker 1: must be all tracks and like, yeah, there are there
Speaker 1: are backing tracks that we're playing along to that are
Speaker 1: given it beef, but like since and like under underlying stuff,
Speaker 1: but like that guitar is a lot and it's crazy
Speaker 1: that they can do that and make that sound like
Speaker 1: an acoustic technology. Yeah, I don't know how it works, man,
Speaker 1: but those guys, I know an interview gave you were
Speaker 1: talking about how your producer, Georgan Schmidt, he encourages you
Speaker 1: to go towards more unusual sounds. I want to ask
Speaker 1: you more about that. Like I'm thinking of like his
Speaker 1: you're his like being your George Martin figure in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, and like, well are natural. I think
Speaker 1: all of our natural dispositions is trying to to like
Speaker 1: try to find a really unique kind of thing. And
Speaker 1: Jeff is really like super into synths and loves like
Speaker 1: that sort of thing and pedals and all this different.
Speaker 1: I mean, we we all are. So we're all just
Speaker 1: looking for something that's gonna make it, and we just
Speaker 1: like to play when it comes down to it, especially
Speaker 1: when you go to a new place that has like
Speaker 1: new toys that you've never played with. Like we got
Speaker 1: to play with a whole bunch of new stuff that
Speaker 1: we had never synthesizer, Yeah, and I had like just
Speaker 1: got it. Got this synth called the Oaky one just
Speaker 1: like this little it's basically got a toy and I
Speaker 1: we brought it down there and that like that was
Speaker 1: pretty like a pretty prominent thing on on the throughout
Speaker 1: the record. So it was just he knows how to
Speaker 1: get the main sounds, like he's a whizar start making
Speaker 1: drowns drums sound good. Also helps up. We have a
Speaker 1: really insanely good drummer and he also played based on
Speaker 1: the record. I don't know if you said that yet,
Speaker 1: but so you know, it's nice to have a good
Speaker 1: basic sound and then you know, but it's like anybody
Speaker 1: can do that, but to put the little spice on
Speaker 1: top and to and to really figure out what you know,
Speaker 1: nobody else is going to do or say yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like too with Jordan's we have gotten really comfortable
Speaker 1: with him too. I mean not comfortable in a bad way,
Speaker 1: but comfortable is in the fact that we he was
Speaker 1: the first person we ever co wrote with and like
Speaker 1: let we let him like run the track and so
Speaker 1: like we just like have built this trust relationship with
Speaker 1: him and like because like when you have a producer,
Speaker 1: like your sound is in their hands, like they're pressing
Speaker 1: the buttons. They are obviously you're putting out all the
Speaker 1: ideas and playing the parts and stuff, but the way
Speaker 1: that it's sonically coming together is like he's touching the
Speaker 1: buttons and like there has to be trust on both
Speaker 1: ways that you know he and like, I think that's
Speaker 1: just grown over the past what three years, three years
Speaker 1: you and like we've been made. He's been making producing
Speaker 1: us since Daphne Bleue. I guess it was the first
Speaker 1: thing we put out with him, and like we just
Speaker 1: had this level of trust and where I think we're
Speaker 1: all He's having a lot of fun. He grew up
Speaker 1: doing pop punk bands and rock bands and like a
Speaker 1: scene guy and then eventually moved to Nashville and got
Speaker 1: into more pop and country, and like, I think he's
Speaker 1: having a lot of fun with us, like getting more experimental,
Speaker 1: because he's making a lot of like amazing like country
Speaker 1: music and like pop music that's like pretty pretty down
Speaker 1: the middle, not in like a bad way at all,
Speaker 1: but just like less experimental. I think that he can
Speaker 1: get with us, not that we're like super weird and stuff,
Speaker 1: but we do try to, like Spencer said, try to
Speaker 1: find weirder sounds and ways to make stuff sound a
Speaker 1: little different while still like being digestible. And I think
Speaker 1: Jordan has he has a good filter of like what's
Speaker 1: too far? Oh, we need to make this weirder, We
Speaker 1: need to make this less weird. Like I love that stuff.
Speaker 1: I love the gold, I love the old analog since
Speaker 1: like melotrons and style of phones and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, we used that, the Profit six profits. We
Speaker 1: have a couple different junos. Yeah, Profit six was like
Speaker 1: probably the he bought one after Yeah, I went home
Speaker 1: and we had to have it. So it's insane, So
Speaker 1: we used that, and then the OPI one, like he
Speaker 1: was saying, like really changes the whole dynamic of a
Speaker 1: lot of layers on a lot of songs because it's
Speaker 1: you can sample things in the room and like just
Speaker 1: make it like spit out little beats and percussom groups
Speaker 1: and synth lines and our arts and like just changes
Speaker 1: the thought process of things more than any things. I think.
Speaker 1: It just it just does a lot and you're like, well, oh,
Speaker 1: well what if I you know, what if you did
Speaker 1: this with it? Just put it puts you through some
Speaker 1: different neural pathways and it's it's really nice, kind of
Speaker 1: makes it fun to do music again. Well, speaking of
Speaker 1: of throwback analog technology that I love. You guys recently
Speaker 1: released a record for Record Store Day, four songs by
Speaker 1: your buds in the band Camino. I'm a huge vinyl nerd.
Speaker 1: I mean record Store Day for me is like practically
Speaker 1: a holiday. You guys, big grate divers like you got
Speaker 1: to record stores a lot and uh find any gems lately?
Speaker 1: If you do? Do you not as much as I should? Man,
Speaker 1: I have I have some little rector here's like some
Speaker 1: Huey Lewis and some random things like I don't have
Speaker 1: a record player right now. I used to have like
Speaker 1: a kind of a shitty one, but like I used
Speaker 1: to when we were back in Memphis a little bit,
Speaker 1: but not not so much since we've been in town,
Speaker 1: which I feel like they would have some really like
Speaker 1: sick like say stuff. Probably you can probably find some
Speaker 1: stuff pretty usy out here. But yeah, it's not that
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. It's that I don't
Speaker 1: do that, like I definitely would if I if I
Speaker 1: if I tried. But I'm sure we'll we'll all become
Speaker 1: collectors eventually. We've you know, we've as we've been putting
Speaker 1: out our music. It's you know, we're kind of creating
Speaker 1: our own collection for ourselves at least giving ourselves a
Speaker 1: starting point. But but the record store day thing was
Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah, it was really cool to be a
Speaker 1: part of that. Our records and actual record stores was
Speaker 1: really cool. Are there any musical influences that really tie
Speaker 1: three you guys together, Like any all shared people that
Speaker 1: you all listened to when you're first starting out. There's
Speaker 1: like a lot. It's probably like a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff you would expect, but like I think bands, like
Speaker 1: a lot of bands like I feel like ties together,
Speaker 1: cold Play, the Killers, Kings of Leon, and then like
Speaker 1: John Mayer, just like the classic incredible bands that nobody
Speaker 1: will ever be able to replicate. That's what Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Eagles was a big one too. We all kind of
Speaker 1: came from different backgrounds and different approaches to music, which
Speaker 1: I think helps us kind of cover a lot of
Speaker 1: basses and it gives our sound kind of like I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's definitely very three sided because we all
Speaker 1: kind of look at it a different way. And I
Speaker 1: feel like I always approached music like I have videos
Speaker 1: of me as a little kid, like singing songs before
Speaker 1: I could play like an instrument with them and just
Speaker 1: like singing song looking at a notebook and like singing
Speaker 1: a song to my dad, like I couldn't play an instrument,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I want to write songs, and Spencer,
Speaker 1: like I feel like comes from like how does it
Speaker 1: make you feel? How does this groove and like be
Speaker 1: make you feel? I don't know, you like it's kind
Speaker 1: of like more not like not zoomed out, but more
Speaker 1: of like a less specific I don't know, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: just the way that it feels like vibe. We call
Speaker 1: him the vibe raider because he raped the vibes, like
Speaker 1: he's the vibe curator. I feel like I've always said
Speaker 1: that Spencer like he has like the coolest taste out
Speaker 1: of all of us. He shows me the most music
Speaker 1: that's like, hey, like listen to this song, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: listen to this song. You should listen to this band,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, whoa, I've never heard of this band.
Speaker 1: I feel like Spencer is very much the quality control
Speaker 1: of the group because you know, like we're we're all
Speaker 1: we're all throwing ship at the wall and uh if
Speaker 1: we if if we throw something down and we look
Speaker 1: at Spencer and he's like, it's not it, Chief, it's
Speaker 1: not it. You gotta you gotta make something that Spencer
Speaker 1: thinks is cool. And then it's And then at least
Speaker 1: I'm nicer about it than I think I was originally.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's the case that you gotta have
Speaker 1: the no guy. And then Garrison. Garrison's just the player
Speaker 1: like because he's the one that can do anything. He
Speaker 1: approaches it from the technical like he plays like every
Speaker 1: instrument and like he has he has the parts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we kind of have like it's it's all yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we all kind of grew up listening to
Speaker 1: different stuff too, like just like Garrison, what like Rush
Speaker 1: and then no, not Rush like a jazz guy. Where
Speaker 1: don't you ge? Yeah, so I agree with Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Rush. I just want to
Speaker 1: make it clear I didn't. That's not like yeah, Journey
Speaker 1: is the yeah, way different, significantly different. I'll get into
Speaker 1: that later, but no, Um, so I grew up. My
Speaker 1: dad is a guitar player. He's played since he was
Speaker 1: like ten years old. He's fifty four right now. Shredder
Speaker 1: Terry B for the Win. He's on the record. By
Speaker 1: the way, he did play some guitar in one of
Speaker 1: the demos we did Awesome, and I noticed it when
Speaker 1: we were listening down to our our masters. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's my dad, guys, that's my dad. Really he never
Speaker 1: ever noticed that. We never noticed it made it into
Speaker 1: the track like super Qui. But yeah, you're you're right.
Speaker 1: I grew up playing jazz music. I mean it all
Speaker 1: started at a very young age. I started playing piano.
Speaker 1: I played that for four years. And in Bentonville, where
Speaker 1: I'm from, if you were going to be a middle
Speaker 1: school like percussionist, you had to have two years of
Speaker 1: private piano and struction because they wanted to weed out,
Speaker 1: you know, the kids that we're just gonna go and
Speaker 1: dick around. And so I stuck it out for four years.
Speaker 1: And then on my tenth birthday, I ran upstairs and
Speaker 1: there was my drum kit that I've been waiting for forever,
Speaker 1: and um so I've been playing ever since. And my
Speaker 1: dad was very much that like driving force of like, hey,
Speaker 1: here's some weird instrumental guitar music that I love to
Speaker 1: listen to, Like you should learn that, and all the
Speaker 1: drum parts are crazy, and that stuff like Steve By,
Speaker 1: you know, even even like Eric Clapton. You know, his
Speaker 1: drummer is so tasteful, and you know it's it's not
Speaker 1: it's not all about shreds. But it's really cool to
Speaker 1: get both perspectives of Okay, how do I swing and
Speaker 1: also shred you know, like how do you make all
Speaker 1: these things happen? And so that's how I grew up
Speaker 1: a lot of church music too. I grew up in
Speaker 1: church and uh did a lot of CCM stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: but that was kind of my upbringing. Was just an
Speaker 1: eclectic group of things that that made me want to
Speaker 1: keep playing drums. We all have that collective X worship
Speaker 1: pastor swag going on you we'll share that tattoos the show,
Speaker 1: you know, we have a past. Um. We're interesting in quirky.
Speaker 1: Please like us. But are there any other favorite tracks
Speaker 1: on the on the record that aren't out as singles
Speaker 1: that that you can tell us about the ones that
Speaker 1: are just standouts to you that I realized, like keep
Speaker 1: an ear out for when when the records out. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's one called Underneath My Skin, which is really fun.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a mid two thousands throwback. It's
Speaker 1: very much like a like a third eye blind kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah. Um, And then we've got some like
Speaker 1: pop stuff. There's one called who do You Think You Are?
Speaker 1: That's really sick that we're like kind of like on
Speaker 1: the John Bellion type side, so it's kind of all
Speaker 1: that kind of way. And then we've got like this
Speaker 1: one called I Think I Like You just like a
Speaker 1: like a disc seventies disco throwback, it's really like. And
Speaker 1: then we've got some really hart felt stuff. It's pretty
Speaker 1: eclectic acoustic stuff and it's all there. But anything you
Speaker 1: want is on the record. Exactly happen for everyone. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are like, what kind
Speaker 1: of music is it. We're like, it's I don't know band.
Speaker 1: You said, like live instruments, and I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, I mean, yeah, everyone's still
Speaker 1: playing instruments. But as far as how records are sounding,
Speaker 1: it's like you can make a record in in a
Speaker 1: bedroom on a laptop now, but we went to like
Speaker 1: a real studio and recorded real drums in a big
Speaker 1: room and guitars through like vintage amps and like that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, because it's there's something cool to that
Speaker 1: and like you can tell a difference regardless of what
Speaker 1: people say, you can tell a different Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: it is different. It's just like a different energy, really is.
Speaker 1: The record sounds just like live. It sounds like, you know,
Speaker 1: some dudes playing instruments, modern book, classic band band, band band,
Speaker 1: speaking of some guys playing instruments live in the Fall.
Speaker 1: You're going out on the road finally, but not only
Speaker 1: going on the road, You're going out with Dan and
Speaker 1: Shay on the arena tour. How does that feel? Let's
Speaker 1: go crazy. It's it's an insane opportunity. We're like, I mean,
Speaker 1: the fact that we were able were we were going
Speaker 1: to do it last year and it kind of like
Speaker 1: got to not taken away from us, but everyone everyone
Speaker 1: had had a hard year last year. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: unless you're like Jeff Bassis or something, but yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just you know, we don't we don't have much
Speaker 1: to complaint about. But we're really lucky too that we
Speaker 1: got the opportunity to get back out there again and
Speaker 1: and we get to go on more shows this time.
Speaker 1: So it's the last the last time it was going
Speaker 1: to only be half but this time we get to
Speaker 1: do the Madison Square Garden and like all the shows
Speaker 1: we weren't going to do United, now we get to
Speaker 1: do them, so honestly kind of a blessing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that way, I definitely was very awesome. But we didn't
Speaker 1: know for a long time, and we didn't know if
Speaker 1: we were even gonna be playing in the fall, and
Speaker 1: people were starting to say it's not going to be
Speaker 1: in fault until fall of next year that people are
Speaker 1: going to go out, and so it was it was
Speaker 1: scary there for a minute, and just like how up
Speaker 1: in the air it was. It was. It was a
Speaker 1: little disconcerting. But it's also weird that we've just been
Speaker 1: at home for like over a year and then in
Speaker 1: like two months we're gonna play it like fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: people a night. It's gonna be really weird. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen like over like twenty people at a time since
Speaker 1: like in a year and until like a week ago
Speaker 1: when like should started opening back up, but like I
Speaker 1: haven't been around more than like ten people, you know,
Speaker 1: like at all. And we're gonna walk into an arena
Speaker 1: like that's filled. This is gonna be like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be It's gonna be a crazy feeling it's gonna be insane.
Speaker 1: We're definitely ready. You got to right, Yeah, Yeah, basically
Speaker 1: the hometown. Yeah, it's like second or third show back.
Speaker 1: We have a couple little festivals doing some like random stuff.
Speaker 1: I think we're doing one that's not announced yet still
Speaker 1: before that possibly maybe um and then we're doing a
Speaker 1: festival in Columbus and those they're kind of all like
Speaker 1: they'll be cool, but bonitaries like the first like really big.
Speaker 1: It's and it's like forty five minutes from Nashville, kind
Speaker 1: of like it's a hometown. A lot of people that
Speaker 1: we know and friends and like Nashville music industry peers
Speaker 1: and friends will be out there. It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna camp out. Well, we we leave like three
Speaker 1: days later to start the Danny Shade tour, so we
Speaker 1: might go a day early and camp was. We'll have
Speaker 1: the bus, which is like the glamp side we've gone
Speaker 1: the past two years since we've lived here. Like I
Speaker 1: was the last battery, but we camped out the whole time.
Speaker 1: Had did like the whole thing and so shout Out
Speaker 1: Calliope play until seven in the morning. Yeah, we we
Speaker 1: we had a time and like so it's gonna be
Speaker 1: cool going back and playing after just like having like
Speaker 1: it was one of the best, one of the best
Speaker 1: weekends in my life and being there and camping out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a great experience to be there in general.
Speaker 1: So the fact that we actually get to play and
Speaker 1: it's like we've got a cool spot and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it's gonna be sick, man, It's gonna be sick.
Speaker 1: I hope lots of people lose their minds. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they will. And also I love that in September
Speaker 1: because it might be it might be a little cooler usually.
Speaker 1: So like I feel like Labor Day weekend is like
Speaker 1: the perfect weekend for bart because people aren't going to
Speaker 1: work on Monday after bonning, like unless you're unless you're
Speaker 1: an iron man, I don't really or you just hydrated
Speaker 1: all weekend. But congratulations on getting back out there on
Speaker 1: the album. It has been so awesome talking to Thank Comino.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time today. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thanks and you had a pleasure appreciate it.
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