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Speaker 2: a bottle or someone that you love. Let's jump right
Speaker 2: into it. Oh show the Rams beat the Saint. The
Speaker 2: Saints Derek Carr Matthew Stafford both broke for three hundred yards.
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford twenty four thirty four three twenty eight two touchdown.
Speaker 2: Rams running back Kyrin Williams end of the game with
Speaker 2: one hundred and four scrimmage yards, his sixth straight game
Speaker 2: in which Waves have posted at least one hundred yards
Speaker 2: of scrimmage time, for the second longest streak the season,
Speaker 2: only behind ce Matt Christian McCaffrey seven. What did you
Speaker 2: like about what you saw from the Rams tonight?
Speaker 1: Listen? What I saw from the Rams is goddamn poo
Speaker 1: pooking the cool Oh pooka pooker, goddamn pooking. The Coula
Speaker 1: hoop a Cup and Brother Robinson. Yeah, listen, that trio.
Speaker 1: That trio is something special. That trio is something special,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get We're gonna get to it a
Speaker 1: little later on. With Pook and the Coop at having
Speaker 1: the success that he's having. There's another topic of another
Speaker 1: receiver we're gonna talk about later on in the show.
Speaker 1: But obviously, you know, I always my leagues will always
Speaker 1: be to receivers when I see success, especially from the
Speaker 1: quarterback position, and when a team like that is winning.
Speaker 1: What Pook and the Coup was able to do tonight,
Speaker 1: especially as a rookie, which he's done all season long,
Speaker 1: is be consistent and his play is phenomenal. Stafford, Listen,
Speaker 1: he made some throws. He didn't even stepping, He didn't
Speaker 1: even step into some of the throws. And he on
Speaker 1: the money. He's signing on him. He's signed man. Listen.
Speaker 1: They look good, man. Even though they're seven and seven
Speaker 1: now eight and seven, the Rams are a team I
Speaker 1: think you don't want to see offensively when they get
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, that's the team that you don't want
Speaker 1: to see. That's hitting their stride at the right time
Speaker 1: and at the right moment.
Speaker 2: I think. I think the thing that really helps them
Speaker 2: is Kyrien Williams's ability to run the football, So now
Speaker 2: they can play action off of that and hit Cooper Cup,
Speaker 2: hit Robinson, hit Pook and the Coop Higbee. It was
Speaker 2: very solid tight end. They're they're they're they're very dangerous
Speaker 2: team offensively because of the multi dimensions of the multi faceteds,
Speaker 2: what they do running the football, play action off of that.
Speaker 2: Sean McVay is very creative. A lot of different sets,
Speaker 2: a lot of motion, get your eyes going, a lot
Speaker 2: of different directions on they're playing. They're playing extremely extremely well.
Speaker 2: Right now. The forty nine Ers played them, I think
Speaker 2: the last game to see I think the forty nine
Speaker 2: Ers play them. That could be a dangerous game for
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers because in the division opponent, they're
Speaker 2: very familiar with each other.
Speaker 1: So go ahead. I have a question for you. If
Speaker 1: they do play the forty nine ers, with it being
Speaker 1: the last game of the season, with the forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers obviously going to the playoffs, do the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers rest their starters?
Speaker 2: No, because they're gonna probably have to have that game
Speaker 2: to and now it all depends because they might need
Speaker 2: that game to make sure they secure home field advantage
Speaker 2: because they walk home field throughout the entirety of the playoffs. Now,
Speaker 2: if one of these teams loses again, let's say the
Speaker 2: Cowboys lose again, we'll see where it goes. Because right now,
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, o Jo, they have
Speaker 2: the best record at eleven and three, so we don't know.
Speaker 2: But if they lose another game, what is the conference
Speaker 2: record going to look like? We know Dallas has lost
Speaker 2: to the Eagles and they've lost to the forty nine
Speaker 2: Ers in the conference. We know that the Eagles have
Speaker 2: lost to the Cowboys and the forty nine Ers and
Speaker 2: the Seahawks in the conference. So that's three losses for
Speaker 2: the Eagles. That's two conference losses for the Cowboys. I
Speaker 2: think the forty nine ers have lost to I know
Speaker 2: they lost to Cleveland, which is an AFC team. Who
Speaker 2: are the other teams? They lost to the Vikings, which
Speaker 2: is an NFC team? Right that was a Monday night game,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yes, Niners who The Niners lost
Speaker 2: to the Bengals, so they theoretically could for the simple
Speaker 2: fact they lost to the Bengals. They've lost to the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, so that's too non not too non conference
Speaker 2: versus the one conference versus the two versus the three.
Speaker 2: And because they owned the head to head matchup against
Speaker 2: the Eagles and the Cowboys theoretically, as long as they
Speaker 2: go ahead and they don't lose them. But what's the Cowboys?
Speaker 2: The Cowboys lost three games? Right, Cowboys lost to the Eagles,
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, No, the cars. They so they're
Speaker 2: good as long as as long as they as long
Speaker 2: as they only have four losses, they're gonna be straight.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be straight because they own the head to
Speaker 2: head versus the Cowboys, head to head versus the Eagles.
Speaker 2: But I was very impressed with what I saw with
Speaker 2: the Rams tonight. And like I said, if you've seen
Speaker 2: the resurgence, it has come at the direct time that
Speaker 2: Karen Williams has started running the football a lot more effective. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about it is, usually when you
Speaker 1: think about today's today's game, you think about today's game.
Speaker 1: This is a happy it's the past happy league. It's
Speaker 1: a past happy league. Normally during my era, obviously your
Speaker 1: era too. One of the things that Marvin Lewis always
Speaker 1: harped on, is we're gonna run the ball. We're gonna
Speaker 1: run the ball to open up the pass. Yes, And
Speaker 1: when you think about in today's game, they throw the
Speaker 1: ball so goddamn much. Sometimes, you know, the running game,
Speaker 1: it really isn't effective, you know, to no point, but
Speaker 1: the fact that he can run the ball the way
Speaker 1: it can and it can help, excuse me, it can
Speaker 1: help offensively with play action drawing those linebackers in with
Speaker 1: him running the ball successfully as he did tonight. And
Speaker 1: that is why the receivers were able to get off
Speaker 1: because now you put the defense in the buying because
Speaker 1: they can hit you either way. Pick your poison. They
Speaker 1: can kill you on the run, or they can kill
Speaker 1: you with the pass when both have gone, well, shit,
Speaker 1: it's a goddamn toss up.
Speaker 2: If you look at the forty nine ers, they got
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, You see how you see how fluid that
Speaker 2: offense moves. Look at the Buffalo Bills since the emergence
Speaker 2: of James Cook. James Cook, look at the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 2: with a chain and mustard. You see teams that can
Speaker 2: run the football pose a threat to run the football.
Speaker 2: How it opens up the passing game as opposed to
Speaker 2: the teams that all they really do is struggle. I
Speaker 2: think that's what happened a lot to the Eagles. The
Speaker 2: Eagles can run the football nearly as well as they
Speaker 2: ran it last year, and I think DeAndre Swift is
Speaker 2: having a better season, can run the ball better than
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders. But for whatever the reason, the offense the
Speaker 2: offensive line is not as strong, especially at the point
Speaker 2: of attack, running the football like they were last year. Also,
Speaker 2: the turnovers, because when you turn the ball over, you
Speaker 2: take a possession away. If you turn it over first down,
Speaker 2: you don't get you don't get to see what you
Speaker 2: do on second or third down. You turn it over
Speaker 2: on second down, you don't see what you get to
Speaker 2: do on third down. And Jalen Hurst's double the interceptions
Speaker 2: and double the fumbles. He had eight total turnovers all
Speaker 2: of last year. He's at seventeen with three games to go,
Speaker 2: so that can tell That shows me a little of
Speaker 2: why the offense doesn't look quite like it did last year.
Speaker 2: Last year, plus I still think he's Dean. Most quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: unless they've had an injury, don't put a knee brace
Speaker 2: on in the middle of the season. I mean normally,
Speaker 2: if you start the season with a knee like Manning
Speaker 2: and Brady, a lot of those guys, they've had knee injuries,
Speaker 2: they feel comfortable wearing that knee brace. Normally, guys don't
Speaker 2: come out there with no knee brakes and then at
Speaker 2: some point in time during the season put one on
Speaker 2: if they're healthy, because they are restricted if you're not
Speaker 2: used to wearing it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, I mean question for you, where do the Saints
Speaker 1: go from here? Obviously they followed the seven and eight.
Speaker 1: The remaining schedule is the Buccaneers and the Falcons, who
Speaker 1: they've already lost too. Yeah, in the division already. So
Speaker 1: what do the Saints do from here? Are they still
Speaker 1: in contention that there'll be a wild card? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Now? Can Could they still win the division? They're gonna
Speaker 2: need some help though. Yeah?
Speaker 1: That that division bad man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is. I mean probably eight nine, maybe
Speaker 2: nine and eight, probably nine and eight to win that division.
Speaker 2: O Joe, Right, I don't I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see any of those because I think Tampa
Speaker 2: has the best record of the division. What are they
Speaker 2: seven and seven seventy Tampa seven and eight, No, seven
Speaker 2: and eight. Yeah, so yeah, I mean it's still close.
Speaker 2: It's still it's still close.
Speaker 1: So that that division, basically that's a toss up. It
Speaker 1: is as up based on the final stretch of the season,
Speaker 1: based on what they can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh most most you okay most. He has time
Speaker 2: for the most touchdowns with Christian McCaffrey with twenty total
Speaker 2: scrimmage touchdowns. Oh, Joe, you've got something that we got
Speaker 2: to talk about here. George whoa, whoa? What happened George Pickings?
Speaker 1: That's my guy, George picking baby.
Speaker 2: At medio to not wanting to block to avoid injury.
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren, the guy that he was supposed to be
Speaker 2: watching blocking for some people played the game different If
Speaker 2: I was in that position, I would have blocked for him,
Speaker 2: but we played differently. So I need you to say,
Speaker 2: in the words of Rick and Ricardo, like he's yeah, Lucy,
Speaker 2: somebody got some plan.
Speaker 3: In the dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, listen. I love pick, I love pick I
Speaker 1: love George to death. I love the death And as
Speaker 1: a receiver, as a former receiver, what I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to do is I've always wanted to block for my
Speaker 1: running backs. Whether it be Rudy Johnson, whether it be
Speaker 1: Corey Dillon, whether it be Cedric Benson. Always Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not known as a blocker. I wasn't physically imposing. That's
Speaker 1: not what I did. But what I did do is
Speaker 1: I would get in somebody way and make sure and
Speaker 1: give my guy a two way go. You can go
Speaker 1: inside and go outside. Sometimes I didn't even have to
Speaker 1: touch nobody. I just run two people off. I just
Speaker 1: run two people off. In that situation with George Pickens,
Speaker 1: because they are losing, have a losing record, they're not
Speaker 1: having a good season. Based on the standard in which
Speaker 1: we hold the Steelers too, everything is magnified. Everything is magnified.
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago we had Deontay Johnson not blocking. This
Speaker 1: week we got George Pickens kind of loafing, Okay, loafing
Speaker 1: not blocking again. His reason for not blocking, we're similar
Speaker 1: to that of the reason how tang Dale got hurt
Speaker 1: being in a scrum a little bit and having people
Speaker 1: roll up on him. But there was no effort on
Speaker 1: that play. There was no effort at all on that plate. George,
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see this, baby. I love you
Speaker 1: to death, but you can't do that. I understand what
Speaker 1: he's going through right now. To me, how I view
Speaker 1: George Pickens, and I would hope how some of us
Speaker 1: view George Pickens coming out of college. That is a
Speaker 1: transcending talent, one of the best, if not the best,
Speaker 1: coming out in the draft that year. I don't think
Speaker 1: there was anybody better than him. I see him as
Speaker 1: a player that can change the dynamic of a franchise,
Speaker 1: especially offensively from the receiver position that does not I'm
Speaker 1: not saying what he did was okay, but I think
Speaker 1: for George Pickens, they have underutilized him to the point
Speaker 1: where it's become demoralizing. It has hampered his confidence and
Speaker 1: his want to to even be out there on the
Speaker 1: field and contributing as much as he can. And that
Speaker 1: is a result of what I think we saw.
Speaker 2: I disagree, and let me tell you why. If you
Speaker 2: think that was the first time that he had done that,
Speaker 2: he had done He done this when they were winning.
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson has done this when they're winning. So you think, Sunday,
Speaker 2: what's the first time that he chose not the block
Speaker 2: in the game.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. I'm glad I'm glad you
Speaker 1: said that. This is the first time. This is probably
Speaker 1: not the first time he chose not the block in
Speaker 1: the game, but this is the first time it's been
Speaker 1: brought to everyone's attention. It's been magnified on a higher
Speaker 1: scale where we all can see.
Speaker 2: Because, hello, but what's my favorite saying what's my favorite
Speaker 2: to court with you? You never accept anything in a win,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have lost. So this when you was winning
Speaker 2: and you accepted it. What's the problem now?
Speaker 1: Right right right, and listen, what they gotta do now
Speaker 1: is George has to figure out a way. Deontay Johnson
Speaker 1: has to figure out a way. Listen, we have a
Speaker 1: problem in Pittsburgh. We have a problem in Pittsburgh. The
Speaker 1: eye in the sky don't lie and everybody is watching.
Speaker 1: They're going to be critical and analytical of every little
Speaker 1: thing you do. So what in Georgia d'at need to do?
Speaker 1: Don't be the problem, be the solution. You have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback carousel, You have inconsistency play at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. That means Deontay Johnson and George Pickens
Speaker 1: have to be on ten every single time. They got
Speaker 1: to do everything right every single time, because every little
Speaker 1: thing is magnified because the season is not going as
Speaker 1: good as it should.
Speaker 2: Can ask your question, yes, sir, Well you called ten passes,
Speaker 2: huh for two hundred yards?
Speaker 1: Ooh well over, wait if I got two hundred yards,
Speaker 1: I don't need ten passes. Just give me about six
Speaker 1: six passes.
Speaker 2: Ask your question. So you got six passes for two
Speaker 2: hundred yards. Yeah, your paycheck was probably seventy five thousand.
Speaker 2: When when you called three passes for twenty five yards,
Speaker 2: your check with seventy five thousand. So what's the difference.
Speaker 2: You didn't get paid by the catch. You didn't get
Speaker 2: paid by the yard, right, right, So why these guys
Speaker 2: doing what they're doing. You say they're frustrated because they're
Speaker 2: not catch it. Their paycheck indicate they're getting paid the
Speaker 2: same regardless. Mm, you see.
Speaker 1: What I like? I like that point. But you get paid, right,
Speaker 1: You're getting paid right, Yes, you're getting paid to be utilized.
Speaker 1: You're getting you're getting paid the catch balls. You're getting
Speaker 1: paid to catch the catch touchdowns. Now, one thing I
Speaker 1: know about George Pickens. We see flashes of brilliance, we
Speaker 1: see flashes of a transcending it transcending talent that is
Speaker 1: being underutilized because every time I turn around, goddamn George
Speaker 1: just hit his head off the goddamn goal post. Yes,
Speaker 1: all the time, but they don't use him enough. This
Speaker 1: is me from the out the outs. This is from
Speaker 1: me from the outside looking in. I don't watch enough
Speaker 1: of the Steelers to be able to make a fair
Speaker 1: assessment on them. And it's totally I'm just saying from
Speaker 1: what I see.
Speaker 2: Can you know why? You know why?
Speaker 1: He you know? Wait, let me me plum my computer
Speaker 1: about to go dead. Hold on, baby, Oh, I'm in
Speaker 1: the game. Now, come on, well we go talk. We're
Speaker 1: finna be on here three hours at night. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: But you see the problem because George Piggres and Deontay
Speaker 2: Johnson only sees their worth and scoring touchdown. They don't
Speaker 2: see they add any value any other place other than scoring,
Speaker 2: other than catching pansses.
Speaker 1: So what aut You can't say that. You can't say that.
Speaker 1: You can't Why didn't they do that? Why didn't they block?
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't, don't don't put that on them? And
Speaker 1: I just said, you're defending them.
Speaker 2: Why didn't they block?
Speaker 1: No, you can't say, I'm defending them. I said what
Speaker 1: they did wasn't right. Why they did wasn't.
Speaker 2: Right, I said. I said, they see their value as
Speaker 2: catching passes scoring touchdown. They don't see adding value as
Speaker 2: blocking and the running back scoring touchdown. So again I
Speaker 2: reiterated you, why didn't they block on.
Speaker 1: Those specific plays where they didn't block? I can't answer that. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can't answer that. I can't I can answer because
Speaker 1: I'm not in their shoes. I just gave you because
Speaker 1: you didn't want to get h did you not hear him?
Speaker 1: Because say that, come out of here? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: y yeah kay?
Speaker 2: What you mean you don't know? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait then I gave you an example on what
Speaker 1: just happened not too long ago with one of the
Speaker 1: great ones over there in Houston getting rolled up on.
Speaker 1: I understand what he's saying. But what you can do
Speaker 1: is you could block and keep your feet moving. Keep
Speaker 1: your feet moving, keep him things chopping. If you feel
Speaker 1: something come up under you, you get up out of there.
Speaker 2: O Joe, you in the wrong business. If you worried
Speaker 2: about getting hurt playing professional football, you in the wrong sport.
Speaker 2: You can't say. You can't say, man, I'm afraid of
Speaker 2: getting throwed off and say I'm a I'm a professional
Speaker 2: bull rider. That's a part. That's a part of it.
Speaker 2: You can't say, man, how do you become a VET
Speaker 2: if you're scared of blood? How do you how do
Speaker 2: you become a trauma surgeon if you're scared of blood? Okay,
Speaker 2: how do you say I want to be a lifeguarding man? Damn,
Speaker 2: i'ut of this water? You can't. So if you're gonna
Speaker 2: play football, you can't say I'm afraid of injury. That's
Speaker 2: a part of it.
Speaker 1: O cho, right, I know it is.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 1: Listen you you screaming at me. Like I said that,
Speaker 1: I was just giving you maybe a reason on why
Speaker 1: I think he didn't block. He said what he said,
Speaker 1: and then I just add a little bit more context
Speaker 1: to it about the frustration that he might be feeling
Speaker 1: about not being able to be as productive as he
Speaker 1: thinks he should.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying what he I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: not saying what he did is right. The best thing
Speaker 1: about it, I'm not saying what he did is right.
Speaker 2: I get that. The best thing that I love about
Speaker 2: me is that I have this great thing called recall.
Speaker 2: And I remember you telling me that receivers go out there.
Speaker 2: You said, receiver was not supposed to care who the
Speaker 2: quarterback he is. You got an infant job to do.
Speaker 2: So if he got a job to do, what doesn't
Speaker 2: matter whether or not he's catching passes. Right, I said that.
Speaker 2: I said that when I first saw it.
Speaker 1: I said that when I first start, I said, George, baby,
Speaker 1: you got to go out there and play, no matter
Speaker 1: whether you're catching balls or not. You got the hold
Speaker 1: your head up. You got to pick your chin up
Speaker 1: because you can't see me going if you got it down.
Speaker 1: But that's what I said. I say words.
Speaker 2: But he was frustrated. That's why he didn't do it.
Speaker 2: You offered an explanation for why he did it. It's
Speaker 2: supposed to be offered without explanation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just telling you why. I'm telling you why.
Speaker 2: I'm so.
Speaker 1: I know that body language, I know that, But I
Speaker 1: tell you the reasons I'm not saying is right.
Speaker 2: The reasons that you're giving that he's not he's underutilized.
Speaker 2: He's not getting the ball, the quarterback play. That's unimportant.
Speaker 1: Oh it's unimportant. Right, But I'm giving you reasons on
Speaker 1: why it's probably happened.
Speaker 2: Don't reason, so let me ask your question. So so
Speaker 2: now so what if?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: What if? Like the office Alivenement say, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: running back said, man, man, ain't let me run the ball,
Speaker 2: So I'm a miss this blocking let the quarterback get
Speaker 2: hit in the back of the head.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm not cool with that. But you jump
Speaker 1: on me. I'm just giving your reasons on why it's
Speaker 1: probably happened. Again, I'm not saying it.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you why it happened.
Speaker 1: I'm just just I'm just give you the A, B
Speaker 1: and C. You know what this is how he's probably
Speaker 1: feeling his frustrations. He's lashed out, he's angry, he's upset.
Speaker 1: That shit can be demoralizing and you can lose your
Speaker 1: confidence based on being underutilized. Knowing that you can help.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it to it. I'm gonna take it
Speaker 2: a step for Let me tell you why it is
Speaker 2: happening because Mike Tomlin has allowed it. There are two
Speaker 2: things that play here. Either he's coaching that type of
Speaker 2: behavior or he's condoning that type of behavior. Now, whoa whoa,
Speaker 2: whoa whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas does not control grown men. He is not
Speaker 1: control grown men.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: Let's not put that on the coach.
Speaker 2: You either coach. You either coach it or you condone it.
Speaker 2: I'll give you about Antonio Brown, Chase Playpool, Deontay Johnson,
Speaker 2: Mark Tavia's, Brian, George Pickens, Santonio Holmes. Why is it?
Speaker 2: I just gave you six seven names and it's all
Speaker 2: one to Eli.
Speaker 1: You can you gave me six good ones to now
Speaker 1: you ain't give me no just give me no slouches.
Speaker 1: You gave me the boys.
Speaker 2: Think about it. Traded, Antonio Homes cut, Mark Tavius, Brian
Speaker 2: Trade and Claypool cut your traders. Antonio Brown, do you
Speaker 2: see a real current thing? You see a real current theme.
Speaker 2: They tolerate you, said they can replace you. You see
Speaker 2: your behavior? Now? You remember when Antonio Brown went live
Speaker 2: on Facebook Live yes.
Speaker 1: Lock him, yes, sir, And when it asked Mike Toma
Speaker 1: with no no, with no ill intent. Now with no
Speaker 1: ill intent, just room.
Speaker 2: Is off limits? Oh Joe, you know damn well, come on,
Speaker 2: don't do that now. I'm not finna let you pretend
Speaker 2: like the locker room isn't off limits.
Speaker 1: God damn, it's the careron that goddamn locker room after
Speaker 1: every goddamn game. Now it's a cameraon that NFL film.
Speaker 1: So let mess your question with Let mess your question
Speaker 1: like I like, I like how you move a gold post.
Speaker 2: No, so let me ask your question. Yes, sir, how
Speaker 2: much you think Antonio Brown paid to do that? And
Speaker 2: how much you think NFL film played you do that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: The money?
Speaker 1: No? No?
Speaker 2: Oh the money?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know you grease them. You agree, you grease,
Speaker 1: You grease the right, prom you can do anything.
Speaker 2: And when to ask Mike Tomlin, was he gonna not
Speaker 2: was he gonna suspend Antonio Brown? He said no, you
Speaker 2: see no, Well.
Speaker 1: Look where ain't gonna get that guy there? Oh ship,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my bad. Where you gonna get that production from?
Speaker 1: You just go where you're gonna get that production from.
Speaker 1: And you just said you can replace They could they
Speaker 1: tolerate you to they can replace you? They ain't replace
Speaker 1: eighty four yet, Hey boy, that's boy, that's that might
Speaker 1: be top five nigga, they ever played this goddamn game.
Speaker 2: But you see what happens, you see but but you
Speaker 2: see what those guys saw Tony Brown with that kind
Speaker 2: of behavior.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no no no no no no, no
Speaker 1: no no. We're not gonna do that. We're not We're
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that. Everybody's
Speaker 1: their own individual. We're not gonna say, oh, George Pickett
Speaker 1: is only acting like this because of what Antonio Brown did.
Speaker 1: That's a grown man. Many hold on, I got one
Speaker 1: for you. I go on, I got one better for you.
Speaker 1: When George did George picking do what he's doing now
Speaker 1: at Georgia? Did he have any or was he was
Speaker 1: he an angel? Was he a saint of Georgia?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't know is
Speaker 2: his I don't. Honestly, I don't know. I don't know what.
Speaker 2: College coaches are a little different. It's a little bit
Speaker 2: more eye and fisted. They run it. Nick Saban runs Alabama,
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart runs Georgia. They run your ass something if
Speaker 2: you keep this kind of behavior. It's a lot different
Speaker 2: than that an NFL program. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: is that While've always tried to be mindful Ocho of
Speaker 2: behaving a certain way because I know people was watching me,
Speaker 2: and so what you don't want to have happened? When
Speaker 2: they start enjoying a little success, they see o Cho
Speaker 2: Senko bull driving, they see o Cho Senko not blocking.
Speaker 2: They see Ocho showing up late for meeting. They see
Speaker 2: Ocho showing up late for practice. There's a reason why
Speaker 2: they say we try to get bad apples out of
Speaker 2: the locker room. Because why Ocho influenced? There's a reason.
Speaker 2: Why do you you say, oh, that's a grown man.
Speaker 2: Do you see you follow politics a little bit? You
Speaker 2: see what's I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like politics.
Speaker 2: Okay, religion, go ahead, religion the pastor he has it.
Speaker 2: He said a certain thing, and they follow him, don't they.
Speaker 2: That's why they listen to somebody else. That's what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. Oh Joe, come on.
Speaker 1: Matters, Hey listen. I like where you're going with it,
Speaker 1: but I ain't buying it. I like where you're going
Speaker 1: with I like the way you explained it, but I
Speaker 1: ain't going with ain't going for that. George Picking is
Speaker 1: his own man. George Picking is his own player. He
Speaker 1: has his own style of play, he has a way
Speaker 1: he's always acted since he was who knows since he's
Speaker 1: even playing football. When you make it to the NFL,
Speaker 1: you are yourself. Nobody else is going to dictate how
Speaker 1: you act based on what you've seen them do.
Speaker 2: That's not not true. That's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 2: You don't think so let me ask your question. You
Speaker 2: ever seen this go take place in New England? You
Speaker 2: was there? Why did it take place in New England?
Speaker 2: Why don't we see this kind of behavior on the field, behavior,
Speaker 2: the holding, the false start pelosy, you're jump it outside,
Speaker 2: the lack of David could play. Why don't we see
Speaker 2: that in New England?
Speaker 1: They don't play that ship up there.
Speaker 2: But those are grown Mellian They could do it under
Speaker 2: what you said. You you said, no, no, no, I
Speaker 2: want you to listen. You said they are a grown
Speaker 2: man and grown men are gonna do what they want
Speaker 2: to do. Now I need you to explain to me
Speaker 2: why grown men in New England behave as opposed to
Speaker 2: grown men in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Listen, everybody in New England when I was there, it
Speaker 1: is expendable. Boy, you hear me. Stay with me real quick, now,
Speaker 1: stay with me. Let me talk to you. Everybody's let
Speaker 1: me take my glasses off. Let me take my hat
Speaker 1: off so you understand how serious I am. Everybody in
Speaker 1: New England during my time there, during that era was
Speaker 1: expendable except one centerpiece, and that was twelve. Your fuck
Speaker 1: are damn a key cursed. I'm sorry you mess around
Speaker 1: and you act up during that era, during that regime,
Speaker 1: with the talent we had on the team, you're out
Speaker 1: of there it man, man, let's it's different from top
Speaker 1: to bottom. It's different from top to bottom the way
Speaker 1: they run that ship over there, because we don't need
Speaker 1: any of these pieces as long as we got that
Speaker 1: centerpiece in twelve.
Speaker 2: You see why. But see what he did is he
Speaker 2: laid the foundation. Jimmy Johnson was the exact same way.
Speaker 2: You see. You never reward negative behavior if someone if see,
Speaker 2: a kid doesn't know, a child doesn't know the difference
Speaker 2: between right and wrong, unless there's a correction for the room.
Speaker 2: You see what happens. They started rewarding negative behavior. He said,
Speaker 2: he said, George Pickens is too is too talented for
Speaker 2: him to don't like any type of punishment. He said,
Speaker 2: he can't bench it because he's too talented. You see,
Speaker 2: you've rewarded my grandpa used to always say, boy, you
Speaker 2: never reward negative behavior. If a child act up, why
Speaker 2: would I give him my scream? Why would I give
Speaker 2: him candy? Why would I take him to the beach,
Speaker 2: Why would I take him to the zoo? Why would
Speaker 2: I take him to the amusement park when he acts
Speaker 2: an ass? Because I'm rewarding negative behavior. I'm telling him,
Speaker 2: if you behave in this manner, this is the way
Speaker 2: to get what you want. So must take repercussion for George.
Speaker 1: Technically, well technically in hindsight, the repercussions. He's feeling it
Speaker 1: because he's not being utilized. He's not being utilized. He's
Speaker 1: not putting up the numbers he should be. You told
Speaker 1: on what I know he can do. Again, people in
Speaker 1: the chat, I can't even see the chat right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what he's doing is okay. I'm just
Speaker 1: giving you the logical reasons. As a former receiver.
Speaker 2: There is no reasons. Okay, there's no reason for not
Speaker 2: doing your job. So you mean to tell me I
Speaker 2: can come to my work and say, because I got
Speaker 2: something on my mind, I tell you do my job
Speaker 2: like I'm supposed to. If that what you're telling me,
Speaker 2: A question.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it happened, Sometimes it happened. Listen, stay with me
Speaker 1: real quick. You ever been in a relationship, right, yes,
Speaker 1: you ever been in a relationship and you're get in
Speaker 1: the argument. You're getting the argument at work and you
Speaker 1: at work and affects you at work.
Speaker 2: Talk I didn't talk about. I didn't talk about. I
Speaker 2: didn't talk to my girlfriends at work. I'm at work
Speaker 2: and I want and what did I tell you early on?
Speaker 1: So you you just missed everything I just said. Sometimes
Speaker 1: before you leave a house, okay, you get in the
Speaker 1: argument and it affects you when you go to work.
Speaker 1: It messes up your whole day. Everybody in the chat,
Speaker 1: they know exactly what I'm talking about. And I know
Speaker 1: y'all all of us done been through it. What did
Speaker 1: I tell you to understand what you mean? But in
Speaker 1: this case, you can't afford to do it. You can't
Speaker 1: be you have a job to do. Cats block and
Speaker 1: it scored touchdowns Ojo two two he does two other
Speaker 1: three two of the three.
Speaker 2: Remember I remember I told Yojo? Yeah, what did I
Speaker 2: tell all my girlfriends? I can bring work home, but
Speaker 2: I can never take you to work. If I got
Speaker 2: to take you to work. I got to let you go.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, stop right there, come on back, bring me,
Speaker 1: bring that to me again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can bring work home, but I can never
Speaker 2: take you to work because I got If I take
Speaker 2: you to work, now, that's interfering with my ability to
Speaker 2: do my job. Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: I'm paid to do a job. A man is paying
Speaker 2: me a day's honor day's salary. I got to give
Speaker 2: him an honor day's work. Free. My mind must be
Speaker 2: free when you step on that field, your mind must
Speaker 2: be free. I approach practice like a game because I
Speaker 2: wanted to become second nature. I wanted everything to be
Speaker 2: second nature, just like I wake up, I brush my teeth,
Speaker 2: I put my clothes on, I tie my jews out
Speaker 2: out the door. That's what practice led into the game.
Speaker 2: I couldn't get it wrong because I had done it
Speaker 2: right so many times. So that from that you have
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, and look, I understand, Ojo. Everybody does not
Speaker 2: have the same mindset, and so that's why it's so hard.
Speaker 1: All different.
Speaker 2: That's why so hard to win a championship as a team.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you got if you got a forty
Speaker 2: five talking Brady you're gonna win a lot of games.
Speaker 2: But the problem is you don't and you must be
Speaker 2: able to take the guys that really really want to
Speaker 2: do it. Because I was talking together. If you notice, Ojo,
Speaker 2: people that talk about each other, they do well together.
Speaker 2: But if somebody doesn't want to talk about it, oh
Speaker 2: he think he too good? Yeah, you see greatness. If
Speaker 2: you look at great people, they hang together, they cool.
Speaker 2: But average people don't like great people. Great people don't
Speaker 2: like average people. And you know why you and I
Speaker 2: have so much success because it's less crowded up here
Speaker 2: because people are being average. See that's where it's crowded
Speaker 2: at Ojoe. When it is up here on this smooth sailing,
Speaker 2: all you gotta do is work. But people don't want
Speaker 2: to work. They want X, Y and Z, but they're
Speaker 2: not even willing to do RST. You see, that's why
Speaker 2: I've been able to have the success. When people say
Speaker 2: Shannon don't deserve Shallon don't deserve anything, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Shannon earned it because there's an opportunity. Everybody has opportunity,
Speaker 2: and so what I'm willing to do. Look at my
Speaker 2: work schedule, O Joe, you know what it is Saturday,
Speaker 2: we had a podcast. Sunday we had a podcast. Monday
Speaker 2: I did esp Uh, then we had another podcast. When
Speaker 2: did ESPN? Did ESPN on Tuesday? Had take Club shay Shape,
Speaker 2: I did? Hey did podcast on Wednesday? Hey ESPN today.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take another podcast. Now I'm doing doing a
Speaker 2: nightcap with you. Got esp and tomorrow you see that you, oh, Jo,
Speaker 2: that's a price. I cannot ask God to give me something,
Speaker 2: and the complaints that you gave me too much? He
Speaker 2: said you ungrateful, you know what, and he knows how
Speaker 2: much I hate ungrateful. So how can I be ungrateful
Speaker 2: for someone that gave me something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, You're right. Listen. I can't even argue
Speaker 1: with you at that. After that sermon, that was good.
Speaker 1: They said you you and your feelings right now, so
Speaker 1: you very passionate about that. But again back to the
Speaker 1: top of your hand. Yes, back at the topic, George.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see this baby puld your head.
Speaker 1: I know how you feel it, I know what you're
Speaker 1: going through. I'm one of the few that can empathize
Speaker 1: with how you feeling because I played the position. I
Speaker 1: know what it's like to be struggling. I know what it's
Speaker 1: like to be losing and knowing I can contribute, knowing
Speaker 1: I can help, and not getting the opportunities that you
Speaker 1: may feel you deserve. Keep playing, man, keep playing when
Speaker 1: buddy running, whether it's Naja other young fellow of the
Speaker 1: young boy. Man, you've got the block, wife, just block.
Speaker 1: Your opportunities are gonna come. Man, I'm telling you better days,
Speaker 1: o hed Man, lock in, baby, Oh.
Speaker 2: Joe, you know how, how and why I've always been
Speaker 2: able to go and stand in front of when I
Speaker 2: was in high school or college, and once I got
Speaker 2: to the league, I could stand in front of a
Speaker 2: young man, older man, some older than I was, and
Speaker 2: command their attention because every man that looked me in
Speaker 2: my eye and heard my voice. No, I never asked
Speaker 2: more than I was willing to give. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: makes you a leader. They've got to know, if you're
Speaker 2: asking me to do that, I believe Shanna Sharp would
Speaker 2: do it. If I believe if Shannon's asked me to
Speaker 2: stay here, say I ask in. He's in the way
Speaker 2: he eats, the way he trains. You never ask more
Speaker 2: than you're willing to give. You'll never have a problem, right,
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're born great
Speaker 2: or had greatness thrust upon you. What are you going
Speaker 2: to do with it? Yeah? Leader is something. You're a
Speaker 2: born leader. But greatness some people are born great some
Speaker 2: people have greatness thrust to pun them. What are you
Speaker 2: going to do with that greatness? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like that. Well you preach where you preaching today?
Speaker 1: Well we just started where you warmed up? What who
Speaker 1: got the offered plate?
Speaker 2: That was? That was? That was?
Speaker 1: That was nice? THEA I know George, George gonna see this,
Speaker 1: and why watch the George gonna see this? But I
Speaker 1: bet you don't have no goddamn problems out of my
Speaker 1: dog no more?
Speaker 2: Hello? Uh Jay Avery said, come on, o Jo, you're
Speaker 2: backtrack and stop broadcasting that. You aren't trying to be knowledgeable,
Speaker 2: admitted to being unprepared. You started your scattering like parsons.
Speaker 1: I don't even know he talking about. He must not
Speaker 1: be listening here and what he want to hear because
Speaker 1: I had already said it was wrong. So how you
Speaker 1: even find something negative to say about what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: And I already said he was wrong. I was just
Speaker 1: giving reasons on why he might be feeling the way
Speaker 1: he does based on the fact that I played the
Speaker 1: position for a long time at a very goddamn high level.
Speaker 1: So what is he talking about? Going ahead?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: He here?
Speaker 2: What do he want to hear?
Speaker 1: Man?
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Speaker 2: Randy Moss was on Kevin Hart Show Cody Ball. He
Speaker 2: said he's the goat receiver over Jerry Rice. He said
Speaker 2: as a guest, though, he says Moss made the case
Speaker 2: for his status. He says, hands down, I consider myself
Speaker 2: the greatest wide receiver to ever play the game. That
Speaker 2: wasn't a shot at Jerry. I still got respect and
Speaker 2: love for Jerry. But I thought that way that I
Speaker 2: changed the game. Oho I was. I was in the league.
Speaker 2: I was in the league when when t O played.
Speaker 2: I was in the league when Randy Paid played out
Speaker 2: in the league with Jerry played, And I'm it ain't close.
Speaker 2: You can debate a lot of their There there are
Speaker 2: two positions, I think now there are three positions. You
Speaker 2: mean close, it ain't close? WHOA which part close? That?
Speaker 2: The close? What? Whatever metric? Whatever metric you want to use.
Speaker 2: You want to use yards, you want to use touchdowns,
Speaker 2: you want to use ketchup, you want to use ring,
Speaker 2: you want to use all pros, you want to use
Speaker 2: pro bowls, you want to use your longevity? What do
Speaker 2: you want to use? What metric do you want to use?
Speaker 1: You saw Randy Moss play right? I did you seen
Speaker 1: t O play right?
Speaker 2: Yes? That was my top three week? The your top three?
Speaker 1: Yes? Jerry Rice? Yes, statistically is the greatest of all times. Yes,
Speaker 1: based on the numbers that he was able to attain
Speaker 1: over a very long period of time, very productive. Randy
Speaker 1: Moss and t O are the greatest receivers to ever
Speaker 1: play in the history of this game.
Speaker 2: Based on what? What are you based on? What are
Speaker 2: you basic on?
Speaker 1: Just skill in dual being wide receivers, just wide receivers. FU,
Speaker 1: excuse me? You know why do I keep cursing the day?
Speaker 1: Forget the numbers? I don't care. I don't I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I don't care nothing about the numbers.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what they did on the field. Jerry
Speaker 1: the position?
Speaker 2: Did you not see Jerry?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you seen Masson too?
Speaker 2: Jerry has talk about Jarry has seven You've seen Mawson too.
Speaker 2: Jerry has seven thousand more yards than Mass. He has
Speaker 2: forty four more touchdowns been Mass. He has six hundred
Speaker 2: more catches than Mass. He has six more All Pro
Speaker 2: First Team, seven more than Mass he has seven eight,
Speaker 2: he has seven more Pro bos.
Speaker 1: You can't forget the numbers.
Speaker 2: It's the numbers.
Speaker 1: I hate. I hate this number game. I hate this
Speaker 1: number game when it comes to talent and skill set
Speaker 1: and and and how like Randy Moss and t o Clear,
Speaker 1: every fucking body, everybody, I don't care nothing about no numbers.
Speaker 1: I'm talent, you do you?
Speaker 2: I mean? T o Oh Joe, do you understand how
Speaker 2: ridiculous you sounding saying disregard to numbers when you play
Speaker 2: with where you playing? You hold on right? So why
Speaker 2: if catcher, why are you so if the numbers don't matter?
Speaker 2: Why are you claiming for George Pickens to get catches
Speaker 2: and touchdowns and yards it don't matter. You just said
Speaker 2: they don't matter.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we're talking about I'm talking about
Speaker 1: I'm talking about talent and skill and you know who else?
Speaker 2: You know what you know?
Speaker 1: Listen's stay with me, baby, stay with me. Don't get frustrated.
Speaker 1: I love you. You know who else is in that conversation
Speaker 1: because we'll never see nothing like that again. Calvin Johnson
Speaker 1: like it's it's something different. Jerry is great, Jerry is
Speaker 1: great and all that he did, but it's something about
Speaker 1: Mass and Teo and I can't even explain. I can't
Speaker 1: even put in the words people in the chat. You
Speaker 1: you would have to really love the game of football
Speaker 1: coaches or or or or or or players from the
Speaker 1: past to even understand what I mean, the fact that
Speaker 1: I really want to get really passionate about it. But
Speaker 1: I can't break it down the way I want I can't.
Speaker 2: You know why you can't get passionate.
Speaker 1: I can't break it down the way I want to
Speaker 1: because everything, the focal point of everything is numbers.
Speaker 2: Because players for it that numbers matter at times.
Speaker 1: Numbers can't even tell the whole story based on Mass
Speaker 1: saying he's the greatest to ever play the game. But listen,
Speaker 1: but but what with with what he's saying, I'm putting
Speaker 1: Randy one A, ti Yo one B or you can
Speaker 1: flip off me either way. I love what Jerry did.
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. It will probably never be reached even
Speaker 1: with the extended games and playing seventeen games. It's just
Speaker 1: for me. For me, I understand what most means. I
Speaker 1: understand what he means, and he didn't have to and
Speaker 1: he didn't even have to go in death with the numbers.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to go on death. He feels he's
Speaker 1: the greatest because of.
Speaker 2: Who. Feelings aren't facts.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's hard to it's hard to explain. It's hard
Speaker 1: to explain because everybody will debunk his case because of
Speaker 1: the numbers. That's it, Oh Joe, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2: I'm listen.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain that I just said,
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm just telling you. I seen them
Speaker 1: boys with my own eyes. Man, I seen them boys
Speaker 1: up close with my own eyes. We ain't never seeing
Speaker 1: nothing like that. Eighty one, neither one of them.
Speaker 2: Eighty one You think you gonna see You just said
Speaker 2: you would never see what Jerry did again, two hundred
Speaker 2: and eight total touchdowns. So you tell me the person.
Speaker 1: Who times are different now If.
Speaker 2: You don't, I'm glad you said that because they didn't
Speaker 2: throw the ball like they do now.
Speaker 1: They didn't throw the ball, and Jerry's is shitting me.
Speaker 1: That motherfucking West Coast offense. Jerry was in with god
Speaker 1: damn Steve Young and they didn't what but you talk
Speaker 1: about they ain't throw the ball. I didn't do that
Speaker 1: you think they so you know they did was throw
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 2: Now, this man gonna kill me. This man I was.
Speaker 1: I was there. What you talking about?
Speaker 2: How you mean how you was there? I was there.
Speaker 2: I played the laws there too, O Joe. I played
Speaker 2: the lion share of my career in the West Coast system.
Speaker 1: I know I was the ball boy. I was the
Speaker 1: ball boy for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Hello, Harr's Jerry Rice. Jerry is a thirteen time Pro
Speaker 2: bowl a, ten time All Pro, a three time Super
Speaker 2: Bowl champion, got A, three a Super Bowl MVP, and
Speaker 2: two time Offensive Player of the Year. Randy Moss is
Speaker 2: a six time Pro Bowler, a four time All Pro.
Speaker 2: No Super Bowls, no MVPs, no regular season MVPs. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: we didn't put to your y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't understand the people throwing out all them fucking numbers.
Speaker 1: Just don't understand. Tell me what I understand. That will
Speaker 1: never be another to Yr.
Speaker 2: Moss, But there'll be another Jared Rice.
Speaker 1: No, it's being possible. It will be impossible. Impossible, want
Speaker 1: to be impossible. Listen to me, man, it will be
Speaker 1: impossible because of the longevity, the longevity, the level of
Speaker 1: talent and skill has increased. You're never yet, that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen again.
Speaker 2: But you do realize that Jered have it? Hold on,
Speaker 2: didn't Jerry have a thousand yards season at age forty?
Speaker 2: Pull that up? I just want to make sure. I
Speaker 2: just want to make sure for context, because you say
Speaker 2: you love for people to provide context the greatness of Jared.
Speaker 1: Shoot, hey, I want to talk about the greatness of
Speaker 1: Monthfuger Moss and to yo okay.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. That's why, that's why I requested
Speaker 2: this topic with.
Speaker 1: Great I hate I hate what.
Speaker 2: Forty Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice at age forty had twelve
Speaker 2: hundred and eleven yards. If I'm not mistake.
Speaker 1: Hey, with the Raiders, yes, with rich gannon.
Speaker 2: Give me, give me all. I think I think Randy's
Speaker 2: last thousand yard season he might have been thirty. So
Speaker 2: we are we gonna Are we gonna disregard Tennessee? Are
Speaker 2: we gonna disregard that that return trip to Minnesota? Are
Speaker 2: we gonna disregard the forty nine ers? What are we
Speaker 2: doing about those stints? Yo? My name is Chad, got mean,
Speaker 2: oh yoe?
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do about Listen, I know we look alike.
Speaker 1: I know we're looking like. I got goto staff, I
Speaker 1: got too stats up here. Also listen, hey, you heard me?
Speaker 2: H thirty two? So his last five yards season was
Speaker 2: at thirty two. Jerry's last five yard season was.
Speaker 1: At fort at forty. Give me a hey, that's nice.
Speaker 1: That that's that's that's real nice.
Speaker 2: TiO was a sixth time Pro Bowl, a five time
Speaker 2: All Pro. He's one of three men that's ever been
Speaker 2: a first team All Pro on three different teams. TiO,
Speaker 2: uh historic Ted Hendricks and won Our Good Friend Primetime.
Speaker 2: Only three men have ever been first team All Pro
Speaker 2: on three different teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, TiO, Hey, yes, I have a question in life
Speaker 1: when it comes to what you like. We all have preferences, right, yeah, right, yes,
Speaker 1: And so with those preferences, there's always context that goes
Speaker 1: with those preferences based on why you like them. So
Speaker 1: for me, Jerry Rice's numbers are great. What Jerry did
Speaker 1: during this time was great. But for me, my preference
Speaker 1: as a receiver, and I love them all. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't talk bad about nobody. You know that about me,
Speaker 1: I don't talk bad about nobody. My preference based on
Speaker 1: what I was able to see with my own eyes
Speaker 1: up close on the field, shared a team with t
Speaker 1: O to get a better understanding on his greatness. To me,
Speaker 1: them two are my mount Rushmore of receivers. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking nothing away from what they did statistically, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, statistically, or what Jerry did statistically, because when
Speaker 1: it comes to the great, yeah, when it comes to
Speaker 1: the goat, that is what Jerry is. That's what he is.
Speaker 1: But for me, I just said, based on the numbers,
Speaker 1: you're not listening to me. You got to stay with
Speaker 1: me that stuff. You're not listening. You hear what you
Speaker 1: want to hear you.
Speaker 2: Oh, Yoe, you just spent all this time saying Randy
Speaker 2: was the greatest.
Speaker 1: Well you know, honestly, they all great.
Speaker 2: That No, No, that is what we do, ojoeat what
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a question.
Speaker 2: Yes, Kobe, Lebron, Michael Jordan, Yeah, I got I got Bron.
Speaker 1: They're all great. Yes, they're all great. Okay, I just
Speaker 1: said that. You just agreed to me, and I just
Speaker 1: said Randy, t O and Jerry are all great. But
Speaker 1: I got Lebron has to go all that number all
Speaker 1: that numbers are different.
Speaker 2: I got to go. Everybody knows that I got Lebron
Speaker 2: is to go.
Speaker 1: Okay, you have Lebron as a go, yes, and okay
Speaker 1: you based on statistics, because that's what you would used
Speaker 1: right now, if I would, if I, if I would
Speaker 1: have tried to debunk the fact, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, st But but see, here's the thing, O, Joe,
Speaker 2: I believe, I believe in because here's the thing. In football,
Speaker 2: it's hard for a skill position player other than the
Speaker 2: quarterback and the running back to win the m v P. Right, So,
Speaker 2: but Jerry does have two offensive Players of the Year.
Speaker 2: He should actually he should have won. He should have
Speaker 2: won the m v P and agen VP in eighty
Speaker 2: seven the strikes the strike eighty should have won that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: eighty seven. He should have won the m v P.
Speaker 2: I think he lost it by one vote to John.
Speaker 2: But when you if you, if I want people to go,
Speaker 2: because we're gonna do a poll, who do we think
Speaker 2: the greatest receiver of all time is Randy uh t
Speaker 2: O or Jerry? If you go look at the numbers
Speaker 2: and you see how far Jerry, I mean, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you see how far the numbers and
Speaker 2: you see the the the accolades. I just don't know how.
Speaker 2: And it's not I can see, Okay, you know you
Speaker 2: know how.
Speaker 1: You know you know how because I play I play
Speaker 1: receiver and I've seen them boys up close, and I
Speaker 1: know what they can do. And I've seen it. I've
Speaker 1: seen it. I don't know how to put it in
Speaker 1: the words. I don't know how to explain it. But
Speaker 1: when if that ship, we ain't seeing nothing like that again? Man,
Speaker 1: and God through Calvin Johnson and that motherfucker why I'm
Speaker 1: cursing today, God forgive me, I said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Right now. We got three thousand votes. Jerry has fifty
Speaker 2: six percent of the vote, Randy has thirty five, O
Speaker 2: has nine percent. We'll check. We'll circle back with that later. Uh,
Speaker 2: let's go. Simone Biles husband, you know what some Miles
Speaker 2: is the gym Miss Samone Biles husband said he didn't
Speaker 2: know who she was when they met. Says he's the catch. Sam.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, thank you man, thank you. Joe. He
Speaker 2: appears he said what he to who he said? He's
Speaker 2: the catch. Simon Boles and Jonathan Owens appeared on the
Speaker 2: Pivot podcast this week, which is Ryan Ryan Clark of
Speaker 2: fred Taylor and Channing Crowder's podcast, Guys do a great job.
Speaker 2: I love you guys. You know I worked with Ryan.
Speaker 2: I saw Freddy t and and chanting them at the
Speaker 2: at the fight right at the Bud Crawford and uh uh,
Speaker 2: what's still the girl? Errol Arrow Aero Spencer Jr. And
Speaker 2: I saw them and got an opportunity to really talk
Speaker 2: to them. For this man to fix his mouth to
Speaker 2: say he has he had no idea who some ow
Speaker 2: bios was and supposedly they went in twenty twenty. Now
Speaker 2: that was the time where the Olympics. Now the Olympics
Speaker 2: got postponed a year, but she was the face. She
Speaker 2: was the face of American gyp of Olympics.
Speaker 1: Maybe he and here's the ojo.
Speaker 2: And here's another thing. They're on this dating site for
Speaker 2: famous people. Why the hell is he on there? I
Speaker 2: get while she's on it.
Speaker 1: They got a dating safe for famous people.
Speaker 2: It's called writer, it's called rayah on that.
Speaker 1: They got INSTAGRAMM. They got Instagramm.
Speaker 2: But it offers a level of protection because she is
Speaker 2: some owe bios and you know, she just can't be,
Speaker 2: you know, talking to any weirdos. So I guess I
Speaker 2: guess they betted it. I have no I have no
Speaker 2: qualms or why she on that site? My question is
Speaker 2: why is he on it?
Speaker 1: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 1: What was that word you just said?
Speaker 2: What qualms?
Speaker 1: Okay, let me write that down because I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use that and I'm gonna use that in conversation right there.
Speaker 2: But I like that, bro, So that's my my thing.
Speaker 2: And for him to talk about he's the catch, right
Speaker 2: right kind of cat man, I hear it. I get
Speaker 2: it because look here, this is how you know you're
Speaker 2: not the catch when everybody refers to you as Simone
Speaker 2: Bile's husband instead of by your first name. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's Samone Biles husband.
Speaker 1: And I think he I think he understands that. I
Speaker 1: mean he understands that. I think he knows. And I
Speaker 1: think Simona is allowing him to be the man and
Speaker 1: make it seem as if you know you you are
Speaker 1: the one, you know, but the rest of the world
Speaker 1: will always see him as Simon Bio's husband and that
Speaker 1: and that's that, know, no disrespect to him. He does
Speaker 1: this thing, you know with the packers. But Simoan Bows
Speaker 1: is a the global iconic figure, the global yes, iconic figure.
Speaker 2: I mean the most accomplished gymnasts.
Speaker 1: She has.
Speaker 2: She has moves the biles they even did. She got
Speaker 2: moves that she can't even do in competition because nobody
Speaker 2: else can do the moves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she is the she is the most decorated.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, as far as those, I mean,
Speaker 2: look how many times she's won the World championships. Look
Speaker 2: how many times she's won the US Championships. Uh, Larissa
Speaker 2: latinao the great Russian but Simons look yeah yeah, oh yo, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got your used that you pauled like damn folk
Speaker 2: know everything?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Know about Yeah, I love about Larissa Latina, I know
Speaker 2: about Olga Corp, I know about not of your cominique.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, yes, yes, I know about the gymnastics. Now,
Speaker 1: don't don't do that. I used I used to work
Speaker 1: the balance being in high school. Yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: work the ballance being in high school. But I just
Speaker 1: hey that that would be an that would be a
Speaker 1: fun relationship. In the off season, though, what like competing
Speaker 1: against flipping them too, just just going at it, competing
Speaker 1: in different different things that have to coletic ability.
Speaker 2: O Joe she's only four, she's only four foot tall.
Speaker 2: Maybe she weighs one hundred pounds. I don't think you
Speaker 2: weighed that much. But she to be able to you
Speaker 2: out understanding she you have to be able to how
Speaker 2: how wound, how tight.
Speaker 1: She's wound, wound right right right right.
Speaker 2: To be able to hit those moves and the tumble, yeah,
Speaker 2: and to locate and then to come down because a
Speaker 2: lot of those moves she's doing in reverse. Mm hmm
Speaker 2: when she.
Speaker 1: Whe Let me tell you something. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: something about tumbling. Back in the days, Scott projects in
Speaker 1: the eighties, the mattresses, you know, we had the two mattresses, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you take the two mattresses. When your mama, mama, your
Speaker 1: mama make you change the mattresses, you know, talk about
Speaker 1: throw them away, put them on the put them on
Speaker 1: the put them on the pile. So then come pick
Speaker 1: them up. Man, we ain't put we ain't put the
Speaker 1: mattress on the pile. You get, you get two of them.
Speaker 1: You get your homeboy mattress, get your mattress. Boom. What
Speaker 1: do you think we out there doing?
Speaker 2: Flipping? Flipping?
Speaker 1: That's how we started. I know, you get Scott, Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh no, well we can flip. Now we can flip.
Speaker 1: So that was our that was our gymnastics. Scott projects
Speaker 1: me and Stupid minutes. You remember Marvel minutes, right, yes?
Speaker 1: Remember man? Listen man. We used to battle and who
Speaker 1: can flip? Who can flip the best? That that to me,
Speaker 1: that's an exciting relationship because if I was if I
Speaker 1: was him, I'd be challenging her every off.
Speaker 2: Season to do what lose?
Speaker 1: Nah, I'm just I'm just saying, like, put push the envelope,
Speaker 1: push the envelope. Let us let her let them. What'sh
Speaker 1: the on blow?
Speaker 2: That's like saying if you, if you was, if you
Speaker 2: dating Shakarrie Richards, say, come on, baby, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna blow the nose off you.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, we're gonna race. We're gonna do thirty thirty
Speaker 1: yard thirty meters, thirty meters.
Speaker 2: She gonna have your ham free. You'll grow. Oh.
Speaker 1: Now you know I'm in save baby, I'm in very
Speaker 1: good shape. But I said thirty meters because I know
Speaker 1: I can get I can get out. I know I
Speaker 1: could get out once. She but my drive phase is nice.
Speaker 1: You got to see my drive fame.
Speaker 2: Out because This is the difference between football speed and
Speaker 2: track speed, because I.
Speaker 1: Got I got track speed. Though I got track speed. Listen,
Speaker 1: it's three listen, stay with me, baby, it's three different
Speaker 1: phases and running. You got to drive face. You got
Speaker 1: to drive face.
Speaker 2: Yes, you feel me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what I am. I'm a driver.
Speaker 1: I'm like Christian Coleman. You see, I had the fastest.
Speaker 1: I got the fastest five, ten, and twenty. That's why
Speaker 1: I made my money.
Speaker 2: There and a whole lot of they, and a whole
Speaker 2: lot of men that's not professional, not not fright stars
Speaker 2: that can carry richardson right.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, she'll be everybody I'm talking. She beat your
Speaker 1: ass too. That's why I only I said thirty meters.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go no first embarrassed me.
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's ten meters. Okay.
Speaker 1: See, you're doing me wrong. You're doing me wrong. I
Speaker 1: just told you my start, Joe, Christian comman O, Joe,
Speaker 1: you're not used to be in in no blocks? How
Speaker 1: you to? I trained with Fred Curly. Ain't gonna tell
Speaker 1: me I used to be in no blocks. You know what.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I will get on when
Speaker 2: I've done here, I'm gonna get on the front with
Speaker 2: Curly and I'm gonna call me, call.
Speaker 1: Fred and ask Fred if we don't train together at
Speaker 1: Tropical Park, I trained with Fred. Okay, I get yeah,
Speaker 1: and listen, Me and Fred do block work together. We
Speaker 1: do two fifties three hundreds, Like I'm like that.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you doing them two fifties and
Speaker 2: three hundred ain't gonna help you in those thirty meters,
Speaker 2: So keep on. I know I was.
Speaker 1: I was helping train and talking shit in his heal,
Speaker 1: just to getting prepared for a meet.
Speaker 2: Samonn bows Is thirty times. She won thirty world medals,
Speaker 2: twenty three goal six, six time world all around titles.
Speaker 2: She's the first woman to win six all around titles
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen to fifteen, eighteen to nineteen, and she did
Speaker 2: it again and twenty twenty three, and she was just
Speaker 2: awarded the presidential Biden Awarded Medal of Freedom. But you know,
Speaker 2: let's just let's just say for the sake of argument,
Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody in their right mind think
Speaker 2: he does it. He didn't know who she was. Let's
Speaker 2: just say that. But to try to fix that mouth
Speaker 2: and try to Oh I'm the catch, bro you not
Speaker 2: broy you not you listen.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe what if it was a good thing, Maybe
Speaker 1: they had the dynamic in the relationship where she's allowing
Speaker 1: him to have fun. Sometimes women, sometimes women play that game.
Speaker 1: You know what, I know who I am, I know
Speaker 1: what if I've accomplished, but I don't want to make
Speaker 1: it seemed like I am bigger than my man.
Speaker 2: So it's okay, But oh Joe, you under Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: unless you are Jay Z and you married Beyonce, Who
Speaker 2: in the hell else can Beyonce be with that? She's
Speaker 2: not gonna be bigger than And look, I don't want
Speaker 2: to start in the room, but Lebron James, I mean,
Speaker 2: you gotta get something thinking about it. More times than not,
Speaker 2: they're only about probably about five men in the world,
Speaker 2: in the world that Beyonce could be with that, She's
Speaker 2: not gonna be bigger than.
Speaker 1: You know what, I ain't. I ain't even touching that.
Speaker 2: That's I'm just saying that's Beyondes Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: But that there are there you know that there are
Speaker 1: billionaires that we don't know about that are that.
Speaker 2: But that's the point. Don't nobody know about him. That's
Speaker 2: why they want their own professional team so that you
Speaker 2: can know about him. That's my point, Taylor Swift. How
Speaker 2: many men in the world right now is that they
Speaker 2: that Taylor Swift ain't gonna get top billy boy. Listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are very few people that have that type
Speaker 1: of I call it that, that type of aura life changes,
Speaker 1: life changing. If they're attached to you, it will change
Speaker 1: your life, which is why normally you can't even tell
Speaker 1: people like that to date up. Where the fun you going?
Speaker 2: Yes, where are you going?
Speaker 1: Jesus God, you already you already at the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's that's dope. When you think about it,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: By Oprah. How many people get man, it is what
Speaker 2: it is. And you know, and you know, when you
Speaker 2: date somebody like that or you married somebody like that,
Speaker 2: you've got to be real secure in yourself because they
Speaker 2: gonna get top billy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right by that.
Speaker 1: And when I think about it, when I think about
Speaker 1: their dynamic, you know, beautiful couple. But that's similar to
Speaker 1: that of Oprah and Steedman. You know, maybe he could
Speaker 1: just play. You can just play the back. You just
Speaker 1: play the background, like the way Stepmen does. He let
Speaker 1: let's simone take all the all the shine, all the glory.
Speaker 1: What she gonna do anyway, because of who she is,
Speaker 1: she's an iconic figure. And I think he understands that, right.
Speaker 2: Think about it? Uh, she said in an interview, in
Speaker 2: a couple of years, nobody is going to be calling
Speaker 2: him Simon Bio's husband. They're going to call me Jonathan
Speaker 2: Owen's wife. That it's gonna happen, baby, that it gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's what that's that's a wife.
Speaker 2: You hear that? Yes, But think about it. I mean,
Speaker 2: she's already fourteen, so she has to even shrink herself
Speaker 2: even more. M It's okay for one spouse to be
Speaker 2: bigger than the other. It's okay for the female to
Speaker 2: be top billy.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: You know what you're getting yourself into?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I but it's I mean, look, I could
Speaker 2: be totally wrong, but it sounds like to me she's
Speaker 2: saying that because I think in her profile she got
Speaker 2: Jonathan Owens's wife, Am I correct? I think I think
Speaker 2: she wants to make him feel better because unless he
Speaker 2: unless he turned the air read I don't do it
Speaker 2: to Tevin or Dion. Is he gonna turn in the pride?
Speaker 1: Listen, John Johnathan Owen is A is A is a
Speaker 1: very very good player. I love him to death.
Speaker 2: She got she got in her profile. She got a
Speaker 2: ring wife at jay Owens. That's the first thing she got. This,
Speaker 2: she got Olympic gold medalist. This, she got Margarita and
Speaker 2: Mimosa's lover. This, she got dog mom, This, she got Houston,
Speaker 2: then she got snapchatsm On Biles.
Speaker 1: Listen, what's the first thing she got. What's the first
Speaker 1: thing in her profile?
Speaker 2: Again, a ring wife at jay Owens. There we go.
Speaker 1: That's all that matter right there. Yeah, that's all that's
Speaker 1: That's that's all that matter right there, brother Ja.
Speaker 2: But held on. This is what he got on his athlete,
Speaker 2: just a kid from Saint Louis wife at Simone Biles.
Speaker 2: You notice the difference what he got first?
Speaker 1: What he got first? Yeah? Okay, oh yeah, okay. I'm
Speaker 1: just making sure you gotta behaved.
Speaker 2: I'm just just putting that out there because you told
Speaker 2: me you like context, and I wander to provide. You
Speaker 2: wanna make sure I'm provided.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 1: That was a good context.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1: They are a cute couple. Cute couple.
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, a Florida man catches a gator in a
Speaker 2: garbage being. I don't know if you see this, Ojo,
Speaker 2: Hey what Florida? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Gators? Yeah, man, man, we had them things that when
Speaker 1: we were Shorty's.
Speaker 2: Now you ain't had no bligators with that far from
Speaker 2: Liberty City, but in open.
Speaker 1: Locker man on in the canal for the gators right there.
Speaker 1: That ain't nothing new.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go then and finished. So he called him, He
Speaker 2: called him in a garbage bandy, I saw that you
Speaker 2: ever had it running with a gator?
Speaker 1: No, I'm in the hood. You know they did not
Speaker 1: to the hood. If they are in the hood, well listen,
Speaker 1: let me tell you when they are in the hood
Speaker 1: in which I saw. They were very frequent back back
Speaker 1: in the day we talk about early early late late eighties,
Speaker 1: early nineties. Yes, for some reason out of the D
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the D word. The D
Speaker 1: boys here where I'm going. Yeah, a few of them
Speaker 1: had urgently had gators. When they got a little too big,
Speaker 1: they let him go in the canal, but I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was. My homeboy, remember Darnell Dockett, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Darnell Dockett had him with goddamn gator. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what he did with him, but obviously when they get
Speaker 1: to a certain size, you gotta let him go. But
Speaker 1: for some reason, there was a fad at some point
Speaker 1: in Florida, in Liberty City probably other places as well,
Speaker 1: where people had god damn gators. You go to the
Speaker 1: games at Miami Dad Community College, you got dudes in
Speaker 1: there off the ave off sixty first. You owned about
Speaker 1: sixty first. But anyway, they had they had little gators
Speaker 1: with him, and they had tape round them out.
Speaker 2: I don't know what, because they don't want you to
Speaker 2: buy them because all the pressure is closing down.
Speaker 1: You can't understand that. But I'm saying, why would you
Speaker 1: have gators at the game with the leash and the
Speaker 1: collar and all.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the same thing you get these pythons.
Speaker 2: They get these snakes that they gonna know they're gonna
Speaker 2: go too big for you to handle them. They release
Speaker 2: them in the wild, they have no natural predator, and
Speaker 2: now they just run through. Now they run through the
Speaker 2: habitat and get big. Yeah, it's huge because if you
Speaker 2: don't have an if you don't have a natural predator,
Speaker 2: they just grow and grow and grow and so not multiply.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so you don't want you like snakes?
Speaker 2: No, I don't like snakes. I'm so.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you scared of?
Speaker 2: Like hell out of them?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna do to yoo because I had them. Look,
Speaker 2: we was growing up the country. I'm from the country,
Speaker 2: and I ain't have no problem, but we had them.
Speaker 2: I mean we had a rat, snakes, chicken snakes. If
Speaker 2: you have rat, you would have snakes, right, if it's
Speaker 2: simple as that. And my grandma would be cooking and
Speaker 2: have the three and that's the boy. Here come one
Speaker 2: trying to come into the house. Come get it. Me
Speaker 2: and my brother go down there and breaking our real
Speaker 2: proper We break about real proper.
Speaker 1: Is it is there animal? If you came in contact
Speaker 1: with that, you would be scared of.
Speaker 2: With just my just my naked hands, just my bare hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just yeah, just.
Speaker 2: Hypothetically yeah yeah yeah, sure, like not a fox. I'm
Speaker 2: not scared. I'm not a rabbit. Fox already. They so
Speaker 2: little they should they tear your hands up though. A fox,
Speaker 2: yeah with.
Speaker 1: The bushy tail.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They not aggressive, though, are they.
Speaker 2: Not normally not normally not normally but probably like a
Speaker 2: bob you know, a cougar, mountain lion, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call them, stuff like that. But you know, when
Speaker 2: we grew up, you know, we saw bobcasts and we stuff.
Speaker 2: They normally they're they're as afraid of you as you
Speaker 2: are them. Same thing with a snake. I mean obviously
Speaker 2: you know snake that if they got anything that has babies,
Speaker 2: they're gonna protect their babies. Oh yeah, so you just
Speaker 2: have to be careful, like you know snake has you know,
Speaker 2: they're gonna protect those. Uh like a courch whip. Now
Speaker 2: they're aggressive, but you know we a courch whip. They popular,
Speaker 2: they tell you know, I ain't never heard that. That's
Speaker 2: the first time I never heard that. Yeah. My grandma,
Speaker 2: my great grandma, my grandmother's granny's mom got stumbled across
Speaker 2: one and she got two clock. I guess she had
Speaker 2: had a nest somewhere my grandma has started. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: but nah, but I don't really I don't really fear
Speaker 2: a whole lot of animals, Uh, I mean, I respect them.
Speaker 2: I don't really just like for me like snakes, because
Speaker 2: I knew snakes. The snakes that we were killing was
Speaker 2: trying to eat my grandmother's chickens, not not not per
Speaker 2: se the chickens, but the biggest and if I shot
Speaker 2: and we shot something like a possum or rad coolers,
Speaker 2: they were trying to eat my grandmother's chicken. And so
Speaker 2: that was a no no. There were those like even
Speaker 2: though we really didn't eat the chickens, after we got
Speaker 2: to a certain point, my grandmother would go buy the chickens.
Speaker 2: She just liked to have a mout there. And so
Speaker 2: anything you like, boil something after them chicken. Me and
Speaker 2: my brother get up, get the flashlight. See what it is.
Speaker 2: We start blasting.
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: What about? Okay, animal you're scared of? What about your favorite?
Speaker 1: Your favorite animal? I'm assuming as a dog because you
Speaker 1: all love.
Speaker 2: But if I can get, if I can give another animal,
Speaker 2: I want to pat raccoon so bad. There are several
Speaker 2: things I want to pet.
Speaker 1: Can you domesticate? Can you domesticate a racord?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? A many whoror a mini cow, a mini donkey.
Speaker 1: I'm a donkey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they be gonna just be.
Speaker 1: That's as big as they get.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So I can see I can see you. I can
Speaker 1: see you doing all that. When you retire and you
Speaker 1: hang everything up, you go get you some nice lands.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, have all them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite, my favorite animal obviously for those people
Speaker 1: that have been following me over the years, my entire
Speaker 1: right side of my leg from the waist all the
Speaker 1: way to the ankle is killer whales. You know, I
Speaker 1: love killer whales. I have a fascination and love huh wales.
Speaker 2: What wolves of the sea.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wolves of the sea.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're the only thing that they'll attack. They'll
Speaker 2: attack anything. They're so smart anything anything. There's not a
Speaker 2: there's not a whale that they I mean other whales
Speaker 2: that I mean, sperm whale, hump back gray.
Speaker 1: Well, you know they got they got they got different
Speaker 1: types of They got different types of orcas, some of
Speaker 1: them trans transient orcas. Resident orcas. Transient orcas are more
Speaker 1: prone to attack seals, dolphins and other orcas like that.
Speaker 1: And dude, I have this. If I didn't make it
Speaker 1: to the NFL. If I didn't make it to the NFL,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I play around a lot, and
Speaker 1: obviously can tell based on my tone and delivery. I'm
Speaker 1: being serious. I wanted to be a marine biologist and
Speaker 1: study killer whales. It was it was, it was it
Speaker 1: was that or veterinarian. Yeah, something something about killer whales
Speaker 1: that they My grandma took me a long time ago
Speaker 1: to sea World leader passed away recently, and I didn't
Speaker 1: understand how bad it was for killer whales being held up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: until until I saw Blackfish. Did you see the documentary
Speaker 1: Black Yeah? So until I saw that, then I got
Speaker 1: a better understanding and and never went and never went
Speaker 1: anymore and just did my my my love for him
Speaker 1: now is I'm waiting to go to nowhere in New Zealand.
Speaker 2: You know they have Oh you go out there and
Speaker 2: track them and you can find them in the natural habitat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get you can get in the water though. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm just telling you. I'm telling I'm
Speaker 1: taking real with me. I don't think real honey get
Speaker 1: in the water. But I'm gonna get in the water
Speaker 1: and snorkel with him. I can't wait for that. I
Speaker 1: can't wait for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just I mean growing up in
Speaker 2: the country and you're around, you're around. I mean my
Speaker 2: grandfather had hall so that's what he mainly had, and
Speaker 2: he had we had dogs. Obviously. My grandmother ended up
Speaker 2: getting a cat from she founded at the nursing home
Speaker 2: and brought it home and had one cat the next thing,
Speaker 2: you know, Tiger Gal. My grandmother named the tiger Gally.
Speaker 2: We had twenty five cats. But yeah, man, they made
Speaker 2: But you know when you have when you you grow
Speaker 2: up on a farm, you just have a just like man,
Speaker 2: you just I mean, like I said, we had hogs,
Speaker 2: We had names. We had a Hampshire which is a
Speaker 2: black and white named Sonny. He was the biggest one
Speaker 2: we had. He probably weighed five hundred pounds. We had
Speaker 2: a deu rock male named Kelly that didn't play didn't
Speaker 2: play the fiddle. Uh he tear. So we had one
Speaker 2: named Bill. We had a h I think Bill was
Speaker 2: a probably a Yorkshire bill and Marvin big white males,
Speaker 2: but had we had to keep him separated. But Sonny,
Speaker 2: Sonny was was I was our favorite. My grandfather was like,
Speaker 2: once my uncles and I everybody start having kids, they
Speaker 2: weren't around and so he felt that he might have
Speaker 2: attack him. But he had tusts, he had tuss like this,
Speaker 2: Me and my brother could let him out and walking
Speaker 2: around the yard like he was a dog. Go hoe
Speaker 2: rubb him on his side. That fire hundre pound joke.
Speaker 2: We just rolled over and with a boy putting that
Speaker 2: hog back up.
Speaker 1: So hogs, hogs aggressive and dangerous, ain't it. That's what hogs.
Speaker 2: That's now. The females, especially if they have if they
Speaker 2: have a litter, they have piglets, they light you up.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, Okay. They don't play. They don't play, they
Speaker 2: don't pay, they don't play about their babies. And so
Speaker 2: you have to be you have to be very very
Speaker 2: careful because yeah, because we had a couple of them
Speaker 2: that would dial some damage to our dogs. That the
Speaker 2: dogs got too close to him and I'm took a
Speaker 2: hundred stitches to close him up. She didn't play. She
Speaker 2: cut him everywhere, she cut him everywhere but loose. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we had to go. We had we had killed him
Speaker 2: and we didn't get in there. Chet killed him. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: so uh that's yeah, So that's that's my thing. Uh,
Speaker 2: horse we got off the grid, said Jerry played. Jerry
Speaker 2: played bok of his career with Hall of Famers. Randy didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even Hey, I don't even want to all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have moved on. I love Randy and t O
Speaker 1: that ain't never gonna move the needle. For me. I
Speaker 1: love what Jerry did, no disrespect to him. I love
Speaker 1: the numbers. I've watched this film. I've studied this film.
Speaker 1: I've tried to copy some of the things he did
Speaker 1: when he played. He was someone that I studied and admired.
Speaker 1: But for me, my preference all the fellas in the chat,
Speaker 1: all the women in the chat. You guys have preferences
Speaker 1: when it comes to other things outside of this. I
Speaker 1: know we base everything on numbers when it comes to sports,
Speaker 1: but for me, I'm excluding the numbers based on what
Speaker 1: I what I saw with my own eyes, and who
Speaker 1: I prefer. That's all.
Speaker 2: Donielle Thompson said. Jerry is like Brady. He's the most accomplished,
Speaker 2: but not the greatest receiver. Shanon, you can understand that, No,
Speaker 2: Brady is Brady is the greatest quarterback.
Speaker 1: Hey, I like the way he broke that down. No,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't say it, but you he just
Speaker 1: said it. For me, let me ask your question.
Speaker 2: Name the quarterback better than Brady?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: Named the quarterback better than Brady? Nick name the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Name the quarterback that played in the one hundred and
Speaker 2: three year history of the NFL. That's better than Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Name the quarterback. Split Tom Brady in career. You could
Speaker 2: take Tom. I can make the case. So now I'm
Speaker 2: an advocate. Tom Brady's come to me, and I'm representing
Speaker 2: pro bono. I can split Tom Brady's career in half
Speaker 2: and make him the greatest. Stop playing with me. So now,
Speaker 2: if you've added in his totality, you mean to tell
Speaker 2: me that you said that there's another quarterback. Now, if
Speaker 2: you want to argue, say the greatest football player for
Speaker 2: me is Jerry and lt. Okay, fine, But if you're
Speaker 2: talking about a quarterback, ain't no quarterback better than Tom?
Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on people. If you talk about
Speaker 2: a comp you're talking about yards. You talking about what
Speaker 2: he was able to accomplish, game winning drives. What metric
Speaker 2: do you want to use.
Speaker 1: I don't want to argue. I don't want to argue.
Speaker 1: I just the way he just broke that down is
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say. I just couldn't put
Speaker 1: it in the words, but he put in.
Speaker 2: But he flowed.
Speaker 1: He's flowed because he said, Jerry is like Brady.
Speaker 2: You won't give me and Darnelle chime back in, tell
Speaker 2: me the quarterback that's better than Tom.
Speaker 1: I'm not good with quarterbacks. No, I'm not good for.
Speaker 2: Jerry is like Brady, the most accomplished. I'm asking him
Speaker 2: to give me a quarterback that's better than Brady Oh
Speaker 2: in order for his in order for his argument to
Speaker 2: carry water to whole weight, he's gonna have to give
Speaker 2: me a quarterback that's better than Brady Oh Jore under
Speaker 2: the same premise, ironically, Sterling should be considered top five
Speaker 2: because of outside of injury. No wide receiver put up
Speaker 2: Sterling's number first year of first seven years of productivity
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame under the Gael Sales rule. I agree,
Speaker 2: but hey, it is what it is. Blone Covery says,
Speaker 2: it's funny you found someone to raise your blood pressure
Speaker 2: other than someone to break your blood pressure. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: does raise my blood pressure, he absolutely does. Blone Covery
Speaker 2: he liked the little brother that you gotta take everywhere,
Speaker 2: you gotta take somewhere with you everywhere you go or
Speaker 2: your mom not gonna let you go and you gotta
Speaker 2: take it with you and you annoying?
Speaker 1: Yeah who me? Yeah, yeah, Well I'm waiting. I'm waiting
Speaker 1: on you to take me the first take. Pretend I'm
Speaker 1: not little brother, and bring me on bring bring bring
Speaker 1: me on down there. Hey baby, hey baby, I see you,
Speaker 1: I see you, I see you. Yeah real, rare, you're real.
Speaker 1: Watching said, we.
Speaker 2: Need to start having a conversation by pooking the core
Speaker 2: being offensive. Rookie of the Year c J. Stroud has
Speaker 2: missed two games and that has to count from something. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: it absolutely does, because when you look at Pookah's number,
Speaker 2: O cho, he gonna be probably fifty what is pooking
Speaker 2: the pooking the coolest number?
Speaker 1: He probably gonna fifty fifteen sixty on he didn't crossed
Speaker 1: the thousand already, be well one thousand, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: way over a thousand. Yeah, like what one seventy sixth
Speaker 1: night one sixty something he.
Speaker 2: Had one sixty four. I think woo whoa he got
Speaker 2: about thirteen fourteen hundred huh okay, so dang, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get back to that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I put wife and I put wife onto your highlight tape,
Speaker 2: she said, the Hug Holgan flex after score, the touchdown
Speaker 2: lack creativity. Aside from the Hall of Fame, Hall of
Speaker 2: the oh Cho, Hall of Fame, jacket celebration, what's your
Speaker 2: favorite TV celebration? Man, I think TV the pom Poms
Speaker 2: with TV, I mean with t O t O.
Speaker 1: Hey, that was classic. The U the Sharpie, that was classic. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you had the uh the golf, that tiger
Speaker 2: Wood where you put it with the pilog.
Speaker 1: He had just won. He had just won some Saturday
Speaker 1: and I did it. I did it the next day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, who else? Man? That They've been some There've
Speaker 2: been some good ones, man. You know what, man, Tyreek
Speaker 2: backflip celebration with the phone.
Speaker 1: Hey, that was live, hear me? That might that might
Speaker 1: have been top that might have been top five right
Speaker 1: there all time. Just the fact that you in the
Speaker 1: middle of a game, Yes, you take somebody's phone and
Speaker 1: record yourself flipping and get the whole thing. That was live.
Speaker 2: That's only got eleven teacher. Yeah, he might be over
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred right now, o Joe.
Speaker 1: Thirteen Yeah, wait Tyrek at wait Tyreek at fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2: Ye, only two hundred behind. But you gotta realize, Tyreek
Speaker 2: gotta play Sunday. Tyreek missed the game. Okay, Tyreek missed
Speaker 2: the game, right. Hey, that's a good game.
Speaker 1: Hey, that Cowboy game gonna be nice, a great game.
Speaker 1: God Ward and Blano had their hands full.
Speaker 2: Boy. If Tyreek can play, Oh, he playing? He playing.
Speaker 1: I gave I gave him the remedy.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Well, the thing is, Miami's gonna have to
Speaker 2: run the football because you can't get in a situation
Speaker 2: where you let dallads pin the ears back. You see how?
Speaker 2: You see how?
Speaker 1: What did the Bills do? What did the Cardinals do?
Speaker 2: Run the football? What did forty nine ers do? Run
Speaker 2: the football? Again? Thank you for joining us for another
Speaker 2: episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite sports on Shannon Sharp,
Speaker 2: He's your favorite number eighty five, Chad o Jo Senko Johnson.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love y'all.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Hey baby, good night baby,