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Speaker 2: into it. Oh show the Rams beat the Saint. The

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Speaker 2: Saints Derek Carr Matthew Stafford both broke for three hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford twenty four thirty four three twenty eight two touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Rams running back Kyrin Williams end of the game with

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage time, for the second longest streak the season,

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Speaker 2: only behind ce Matt Christian McCaffrey seven. What did you

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Speaker 1: Listen? What I saw from the Rams is goddamn poo

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Speaker 1: pooking the cool Oh pooka pooker, goddamn pooking. The Coula

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Speaker 1: hoop a Cup and Brother Robinson. Yeah, listen, that trio.

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Speaker 1: That trio is something special. That trio is something special,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get We're gonna get to it a

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Speaker 1: little later on. With Pook and the Coop at having

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Speaker 1: the success that he's having. There's another topic of another

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Speaker 1: But obviously, you know, I always my leagues will always

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Speaker 1: What Pook and the Coup was able to do tonight,

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Speaker 1: the money. He's signing on him. He's signed man. Listen.

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Speaker 2: Right now. The forty nine Ers played them, I think

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Speaker 2: off the top of my head, o Jo, they have

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Speaker 2: the best record at eleven and three, so we don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yes, Niners who The Niners lost

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Speaker 2: go ahead and they don't lose them. But what's the Cowboys?

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys lost three games? Right, Cowboys lost to the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: And the funny thing about it is, usually when you

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Speaker 1: This is a happy it's the past happy league. It's

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Speaker 1: run the ball to open up the pass. Yes, And

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Speaker 2: If you look at the forty nine ers, they got

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Speaker 1: So, I mean question for you, where do the Saints

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Speaker 1: The remaining schedule is the Buccaneers and the Falcons, who

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Speaker 1: they've already lost too. Yeah, in the division already. So

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Speaker 1: what do the Saints do from here? Are they still

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Speaker 2: Now? Can Could they still win the division? They're gonna

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Speaker 1: That that division bad man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is. I mean probably eight nine, maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't see any of those because I think Tampa

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Speaker 2: seven and seven seventy Tampa seven and eight, No, seven

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Speaker 2: It's still it's still close.

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Speaker 1: So that that division, basically that's a toss up. It

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Speaker 1: based on what they can do.

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Speaker 3: In the dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, listen. I love pick, I love pick I

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ago we had Deontay Johnson not blocking. This

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Speaker 2: I disagree, and let me tell you why. If you

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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson has done this when they're winning. So you think, Sunday,

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Speaker 2: what's the first time that he chose not the block

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. I'm glad I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: Because, hello, but what's my favorite saying what's my favorite

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Speaker 1: Right right right, and listen, what they gotta do now

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Speaker 1: Don't be the problem, be the solution. You have a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: have to be on ten every single time. They got

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Speaker 2: Can ask your question, yes, sir, Well you called ten passes,

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Speaker 1: Ooh well over, wait if I got two hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: I don't need ten passes. Just give me about six

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Speaker 2: Ask your question. So you got six passes for two

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Speaker 2: When when you called three passes for twenty five yards,

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Speaker 2: You didn't get paid by the catch. You didn't get

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Speaker 2: doing what they're doing. You say they're frustrated because they're

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Speaker 2: not catch it. Their paycheck indicate they're getting paid the

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Speaker 1: What I like? I like that point. But you get paid, right,

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Speaker 1: You're getting paid right, Yes, you're getting paid to be utilized.

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Speaker 1: You're getting you're getting paid the catch balls. You're getting

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Speaker 2: Can you know why? You know why?

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Speaker 1: He you know? Wait, let me me plum my computer

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Speaker 2: But you see the problem because George Piggres and Deontay

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Speaker 1: So what aut You can't say that. You can't say that.

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Speaker 1: You can't Why didn't they do that? Why didn't they block?

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Speaker 1: Don't don't don't, don't don't put that on them? And

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Speaker 1: No, you can't say, I'm defending them. I said what

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Speaker 2: Right, I said. I said, they see their value as

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Speaker 1: Those specific plays where they didn't block? I can't answer that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I can't answer that. I can't I can answer because

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Speaker 1: Because say that, come out of here? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: What you mean you don't know? Wait?

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Speaker 1: I understand what he's saying. But what you can do

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Speaker 2: O Joe, you in the wrong business. If you worried

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Speaker 2: You can't say. You can't say, man, I'm afraid of

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Speaker 2: if you're scared of blood? How do you how do

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Speaker 2: you become a trauma surgeon if you're scared of blood? Okay,

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Speaker 2: how do you say I want to be a lifeguarding man? Damn,

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Speaker 2: i'ut of this water? You can't. So if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: O cho, right, I know it is.

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 1: Listen you you screaming at me. Like I said that,

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Speaker 1: I was just giving you maybe a reason on why

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not saying what he I'm not saying I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying what he did is right. The best thing

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Speaker 2: I get that. The best thing that I love about

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Speaker 2: And I remember you telling me that receivers go out there.

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Speaker 2: So if he got a job to do, what doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter whether or not he's catching passes. Right, I said that.

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Speaker 2: I said that when I first saw it.

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Speaker 1: I said that when I first start, I said, George, baby,

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Speaker 1: because you can't see me going if you got it down.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I said. I say words.

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Speaker 2: But he was frustrated. That's why he didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: You offered an explanation for why he did it. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just telling you why. I'm telling you why.

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Speaker 1: I know that body language, I know that, But I

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Speaker 2: The reasons that you're giving that he's not he's underutilized.

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Speaker 2: He's not getting the ball, the quarterback play. That's unimportant.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's unimportant. Right, But I'm giving you reasons on

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Speaker 2: Don't reason, so let me ask your question. So so

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Speaker 2: now so what if?

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Speaker 2: What if? Like the office Alivenement say, you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: So I'm a miss this blocking let the quarterback get

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Speaker 1: But no, I'm not cool with that. But you jump

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you why it happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm just just I'm just give you the A, B

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Speaker 1: That shit can be demoralizing and you can lose your

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it to it. I'm gonna take it

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Speaker 2: happening because Mike Tomlin has allowed it. There are two

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Speaker 1: Mike Thomas does not control grown men. He is not

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 1: Let's not put that on the coach.

431
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: You either coach. You either coach it or you condone it.

432
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: I'll give you about Antonio Brown, Chase Playpool, Deontay Johnson,

433
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: Mark Tavia's, Brian, George Pickens, Santonio Holmes. Why is it?

434
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: I just gave you six seven names and it's all

435
00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: one to Eli.

436
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: You can you gave me six good ones to now

437
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: you ain't give me no just give me no slouches.

438
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 1: You gave me the boys.

439
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: Think about it. Traded, Antonio Homes cut, Mark Tavius, Brian

440
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: Trade and Claypool cut your traders. Antonio Brown, do you

441
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: see a real current thing? You see a real current theme.

442
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: They tolerate you, said they can replace you. You see

443
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: your behavior? Now? You remember when Antonio Brown went live

444
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: on Facebook Live yes.

445
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: Lock him, yes, sir, And when it asked Mike Toma

446
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: with no no, with no ill intent. Now with no

447
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: ill intent, just room.

448
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 2: Is off limits? Oh Joe, you know damn well, come on,

449
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: don't do that now. I'm not finna let you pretend

450
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: like the locker room isn't off limits.

451
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: God damn, it's the careron that goddamn locker room after

452
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: every goddamn game. Now it's a cameraon that NFL film.

453
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: So let mess your question with Let mess your question

454
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: like I like, I like how you move a gold post.

455
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: No, so let me ask your question. Yes, sir, how

456
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: much you think Antonio Brown paid to do that? And

457
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: how much you think NFL film played you do that?

458
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: Oh?

459
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: The money?

460
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: No? No?

461
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: Oh the money?

462
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know you grease them. You agree, you grease,

463
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: You grease the right, prom you can do anything.

464
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: And when to ask Mike Tomlin, was he gonna not

465
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: was he gonna suspend Antonio Brown? He said no, you

466
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: see no, Well.

467
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: Look where ain't gonna get that guy there? Oh ship,

468
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my bad. Where you gonna get that production from?

469
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: You just go where you're gonna get that production from.

470
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: And you just said you can replace They could they

471
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: tolerate you to they can replace you? They ain't replace

472
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: eighty four yet, Hey boy, that's boy, that's that might

473
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: be top five nigga, they ever played this goddamn game.

474
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: But you see what happens, you see but but you

475
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: see what those guys saw Tony Brown with that kind

476
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: of behavior.

477
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no no no no no no, no

478
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: no no. We're not gonna do that. We're not We're

479
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that. Everybody's

480
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: their own individual. We're not gonna say, oh, George Pickett

481
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: is only acting like this because of what Antonio Brown did.

482
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: That's a grown man. Many hold on, I got one

483
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: for you. I go on, I got one better for you.

484
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: When George did George picking do what he's doing now

485
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: at Georgia? Did he have any or was he was

486
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: he an angel? Was he a saint of Georgia?

487
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't know is

488
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: his I don't. Honestly, I don't know. I don't know what.

489
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: College coaches are a little different. It's a little bit

490
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: more eye and fisted. They run it. Nick Saban runs Alabama,

491
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart runs Georgia. They run your ass something if

492
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: you keep this kind of behavior. It's a lot different

493
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: than that an NFL program. But what I'm saying is

494
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: is that While've always tried to be mindful Ocho of

495
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: behaving a certain way because I know people was watching me,

496
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 2: and so what you don't want to have happened? When

497
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: they start enjoying a little success, they see o Cho

498
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: Senko bull driving, they see o Cho Senko not blocking.

499
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: They see Ocho showing up late for meeting. They see

500
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: Ocho showing up late for practice. There's a reason why

501
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 2: they say we try to get bad apples out of

502
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: the locker room. Because why Ocho influenced? There's a reason.

503
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: Why do you you say, oh, that's a grown man.

504
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: Do you see you follow politics a little bit? You

505
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: see what's I don't like it.

506
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't like politics.

507
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: Okay, religion, go ahead, religion the pastor he has it.

508
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: He said a certain thing, and they follow him, don't they.

509
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: That's why they listen to somebody else. That's what you're

510
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: talking about. Oh Joe, come on.

511
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: Matters, Hey listen. I like where you're going with it,

512
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: but I ain't buying it. I like where you're going

513
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: with I like the way you explained it, but I

514
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: ain't going with ain't going for that. George Picking is

515
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: his own man. George Picking is his own player. He

516
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: has his own style of play, he has a way

517
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: he's always acted since he was who knows since he's

518
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: even playing football. When you make it to the NFL,

519
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: you are yourself. Nobody else is going to dictate how

520
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: you act based on what you've seen them do.

521
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: That's not not true. That's not true. That's not true.

522
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: You don't think so let me ask your question. You

523
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: ever seen this go take place in New England? You

524
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: was there? Why did it take place in New England?

525
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 2: Why don't we see this kind of behavior on the field, behavior,

526
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: the holding, the false start pelosy, you're jump it outside,

527
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: the lack of David could play. Why don't we see

528
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: that in New England?

529
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: They don't play that ship up there.

530
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: But those are grown Mellian They could do it under

531
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 2: what you said. You you said, no, no, no, I

532
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: want you to listen. You said they are a grown

533
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: man and grown men are gonna do what they want

534
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 2: to do. Now I need you to explain to me

535
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: why grown men in New England behave as opposed to

536
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: grown men in Pittsburgh.

537
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: Listen, everybody in New England when I was there, it

538
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: is expendable. Boy, you hear me. Stay with me real quick, now,

539
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: stay with me. Let me talk to you. Everybody's let

540
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: me take my glasses off. Let me take my hat

541
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: off so you understand how serious I am. Everybody in

542
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: New England during my time there, during that era was

543
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: expendable except one centerpiece, and that was twelve. Your fuck

544
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: are damn a key cursed. I'm sorry you mess around

545
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: and you act up during that era, during that regime,

546
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: with the talent we had on the team, you're out

547
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: of there it man, man, let's it's different from top

548
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: to bottom. It's different from top to bottom the way

549
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: they run that ship over there, because we don't need

550
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: any of these pieces as long as we got that

551
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: centerpiece in twelve.

552
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: You see why. But see what he did is he

553
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: laid the foundation. Jimmy Johnson was the exact same way.

554
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: You see. You never reward negative behavior if someone if see,

555
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: a kid doesn't know, a child doesn't know the difference

556
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: between right and wrong, unless there's a correction for the room.

557
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: You see what happens. They started rewarding negative behavior. He said,

558
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: he said, George Pickens is too is too talented for

559
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: him to don't like any type of punishment. He said,

560
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: he can't bench it because he's too talented. You see,

561
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: you've rewarded my grandpa used to always say, boy, you

562
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: never reward negative behavior. If a child act up, why

563
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 2: would I give him my scream? Why would I give

564
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: him candy? Why would I take him to the beach,

565
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: Why would I take him to the zoo? Why would

566
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: I take him to the amusement park when he acts

567
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: an ass? Because I'm rewarding negative behavior. I'm telling him,

568
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: if you behave in this manner, this is the way

569
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: to get what you want. So must take repercussion for George.

570
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Technically, well technically in hindsight, the repercussions. He's feeling it

571
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: because he's not being utilized. He's not being utilized. He's

572
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: not putting up the numbers he should be. You told

573
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: on what I know he can do. Again, people in

574
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: the chat, I can't even see the chat right now.

575
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what he's doing is okay. I'm just

576
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: giving you the logical reasons. As a former receiver.

577
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: There is no reasons. Okay, there's no reason for not

578
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: doing your job. So you mean to tell me I

579
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: can come to my work and say, because I got

580
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: something on my mind, I tell you do my job

581
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: like I'm supposed to. If that what you're telling me,

582
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: A question.

583
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes it happened, Sometimes it happened. Listen, stay with me

584
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: real quick. You ever been in a relationship, right, yes,

585
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: you ever been in a relationship and you're get in

586
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: the argument. You're getting the argument at work and you

587
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: at work and affects you at work.

588
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: Talk I didn't talk about. I didn't talk about. I

589
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: didn't talk to my girlfriends at work. I'm at work

590
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: and I want and what did I tell you early on?

591
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: So you you just missed everything I just said. Sometimes

592
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: before you leave a house, okay, you get in the

593
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: argument and it affects you when you go to work.

594
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: It messes up your whole day. Everybody in the chat,

595
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: they know exactly what I'm talking about. And I know

596
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: y'all all of us done been through it. What did

597
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: I tell you to understand what you mean? But in

598
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: this case, you can't afford to do it. You can't

599
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: be you have a job to do. Cats block and

600
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: it scored touchdowns Ojo two two he does two other

601
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: three two of the three.

602
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: Remember I remember I told Yojo? Yeah, what did I

603
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: tell all my girlfriends? I can bring work home, but

604
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: I can never take you to work. If I got

605
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: to take you to work. I got to let you go.

606
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, stop right there, come on back, bring me,

607
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: bring that to me again.

608
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can bring work home, but I can never

609
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: take you to work because I got If I take

610
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: you to work, now, that's interfering with my ability to

611
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: do my job. Because at the end of the day,

612
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm paid to do a job. A man is paying

613
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: me a day's honor day's salary. I got to give

614
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: him an honor day's work. Free. My mind must be

615
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: free when you step on that field, your mind must

616
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: be free. I approach practice like a game because I

617
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: wanted to become second nature. I wanted everything to be

618
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: second nature, just like I wake up, I brush my teeth,

619
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: I put my clothes on, I tie my jews out

620
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: out the door. That's what practice led into the game.

621
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: I couldn't get it wrong because I had done it

622
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: right so many times. So that from that you have

623
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, and look, I understand, Ojo. Everybody does not

624
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: have the same mindset, and so that's why it's so hard.

625
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: All different.

626
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: That's why so hard to win a championship as a team.

627
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if you got if you got a forty

628
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: five talking Brady you're gonna win a lot of games.

629
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: But the problem is you don't and you must be

630
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: able to take the guys that really really want to

631
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: do it. Because I was talking together. If you notice, Ojo,

632
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: people that talk about each other, they do well together.

633
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: But if somebody doesn't want to talk about it, oh

634
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: he think he too good? Yeah, you see greatness. If

635
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: you look at great people, they hang together, they cool.

636
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: But average people don't like great people. Great people don't

637
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: like average people. And you know why you and I

638
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: have so much success because it's less crowded up here

639
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: because people are being average. See that's where it's crowded

640
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: at Ojoe. When it is up here on this smooth sailing,

641
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: all you gotta do is work. But people don't want

642
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: to work. They want X, Y and Z, but they're

643
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: not even willing to do RST. You see, that's why

644
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: I've been able to have the success. When people say

645
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: Shannon don't deserve Shallon don't deserve anything, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: Shannon earned it because there's an opportunity. Everybody has opportunity,

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Speaker 2: and so what I'm willing to do. Look at my

648
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: work schedule, O Joe, you know what it is Saturday,

649
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: we had a podcast. Sunday we had a podcast. Monday

650
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Speaker 2: I did esp Uh, then we had another podcast. When

651
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Speaker 2: did ESPN? Did ESPN on Tuesday? Had take Club shay Shape,

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Speaker 2: I did? Hey did podcast on Wednesday? Hey ESPN today.

653
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't take another podcast. Now I'm doing doing a

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Speaker 2: nightcap with you. Got esp and tomorrow you see that you, oh, Jo,

655
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Speaker 2: that's a price. I cannot ask God to give me something,

656
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Speaker 2: and the complaints that you gave me too much? He

657
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: said you ungrateful, you know what, and he knows how

658
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: much I hate ungrateful. So how can I be ungrateful

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Speaker 2: for someone that gave me something?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, You're right. Listen. I can't even argue

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00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: with you at that. After that sermon, that was good.

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00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 1: They said you you and your feelings right now, so

663
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Speaker 1: you very passionate about that. But again back to the

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Speaker 1: top of your hand. Yes, back at the topic, George.

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see this baby puld your head.

666
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Speaker 1: I know how you feel it, I know what you're

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Speaker 1: going through. I'm one of the few that can empathize

668
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Speaker 1: with how you feeling because I played the position. I

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670
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671
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Speaker 1: I can help, and not getting the opportunities that you

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Speaker 1: may feel you deserve. Keep playing, man, keep playing when

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Speaker 1: buddy running, whether it's Naja other young fellow of the

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Speaker 1: young boy. Man, you've got the block, wife, just block.

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Speaker 1: Your opportunities are gonna come. Man, I'm telling you better days,

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Speaker 1: o hed Man, lock in, baby, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Joe, you know how, how and why I've always been

678
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Speaker 2: able to go and stand in front of when I

679
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Speaker 2: was in high school or college, and once I got

680
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: to the league, I could stand in front of a

681
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Speaker 2: young man, older man, some older than I was, and

682
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Speaker 2: command their attention because every man that looked me in

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Speaker 2: my eye and heard my voice. No, I never asked

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Speaker 2: more than I was willing to give. Yeah, that's what

685
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Speaker 2: makes you a leader. They've got to know, if you're

686
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Speaker 2: asking me to do that, I believe Shanna Sharp would

687
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Speaker 2: do it. If I believe if Shannon's asked me to

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Speaker 2: stay here, say I ask in. He's in the way

689
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: he eats, the way he trains. You never ask more

690
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Speaker 2: than you're willing to give. You'll never have a problem, right,

691
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're born great

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Speaker 2: or had greatness thrust upon you. What are you going

693
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Speaker 2: to do with it? Yeah? Leader is something. You're a

694
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Speaker 2: born leader. But greatness some people are born great some

695
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Speaker 2: people have greatness thrust to pun them. What are you

696
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Speaker 2: going to do with that greatness? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I like that. Well you preach where you preaching today?

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Speaker 1: Well we just started where you warmed up? What who

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Speaker 1: got the offered plate?

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Speaker 2: That was? That was? That was?

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Speaker 1: That was nice? THEA I know George, George gonna see this,

702
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Speaker 1: and why watch the George gonna see this? But I

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Speaker 1: dog no more?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Uh Jay Avery said, come on, o Jo, you're

706
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Speaker 2: backtrack and stop broadcasting that. You aren't trying to be knowledgeable,

707
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Speaker 1: I don't even know he talking about. He must not

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710
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Speaker 1: I had already said it was wrong. So how you

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Speaker 1: even find something negative to say about what I'm talking about?

712
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: And I already said he was wrong. I was just

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Speaker 1: So what is he talking about? Going ahead?

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Speaker 3: He here?

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Speaker 2: Randy Moss was on Kevin Hart Show Cody Ball. He

742
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Speaker 2: said he's the goat receiver over Jerry Rice. He said

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Speaker 2: as a guest, though, he says Moss made the case

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Speaker 2: for his status. He says, hands down, I consider myself

745
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: the greatest wide receiver to ever play the game. That

746
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: wasn't a shot at Jerry. I still got respect and

747
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: love for Jerry. But I thought that way that I

748
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: changed the game. Oho I was. I was in the league.

749
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Speaker 2: I was in the league when when t O played.

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Speaker 2: I was in the league when Randy Paid played out

751
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 2: in the league with Jerry played, And I'm it ain't close.

752
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: You can debate a lot of their There there are

753
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: two positions, I think now there are three positions. You

754
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Speaker 2: mean close, it ain't close? WHOA which part close? That?

755
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Speaker 2: The close? What? Whatever metric? Whatever metric you want to use.

756
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Speaker 2: You want to use yards, you want to use touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: you want to use ketchup, you want to use ring,

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Speaker 2: you want to use all pros, you want to use

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Speaker 2: pro bowls, you want to use your longevity? What do

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Speaker 2: you want to use? What metric do you want to use?

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Speaker 1: You saw Randy Moss play right? I did you seen

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00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: t O play right?

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Speaker 2: Yes? That was my top three week? The your top three?

764
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: Yes? Jerry Rice? Yes, statistically is the greatest of all times. Yes,

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Speaker 1: based on the numbers that he was able to attain

766
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Speaker 1: over a very long period of time, very productive. Randy

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Speaker 1: Moss and t O are the greatest receivers to ever

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Speaker 1: play in the history of this game.

769
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Speaker 2: Based on what? What are you based on? What are

770
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Speaker 2: you basic on?

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Speaker 1: Just skill in dual being wide receivers, just wide receivers. FU,

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Speaker 1: excuse me? You know why do I keep cursing the day?

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00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: Forget the numbers? I don't care. I don't I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I don't care nothing about the numbers.

775
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what they did on the field. Jerry

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00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: the position?

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Speaker 2: Did you not see Jerry?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you seen Masson too?

779
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 2: Jerry has talk about Jarry has seven You've seen Mawson too.

780
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 2: Jerry has seven thousand more yards than Mass. He has

781
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: forty four more touchdowns been Mass. He has six hundred

782
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: more catches than Mass. He has six more All Pro

783
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: First Team, seven more than Mass he has seven eight,

784
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Speaker 2: he has seven more Pro bos.

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Speaker 1: You can't forget the numbers.

786
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Speaker 2: It's the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I hate. I hate this number game. I hate this

788
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: number game when it comes to talent and skill set

789
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Speaker 1: and and and how like Randy Moss and t o Clear,

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Speaker 1: every fucking body, everybody, I don't care nothing about no numbers.

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Speaker 1: I'm talent, you do you?

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00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 2: I mean? T o Oh Joe, do you understand how

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Speaker 2: ridiculous you sounding saying disregard to numbers when you play

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Speaker 2: with where you playing? You hold on right? So why

795
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: if catcher, why are you so if the numbers don't matter?

796
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: Why are you claiming for George Pickens to get catches

797
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: and touchdowns and yards it don't matter. You just said

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Speaker 2: they don't matter.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we're talking about I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about talent and skill and you know who else?

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Speaker 2: You know what you know?

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00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Listen's stay with me, baby, stay with me. Don't get frustrated.

803
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: I love you. You know who else is in that conversation

804
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: because we'll never see nothing like that again. Calvin Johnson

805
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: like it's it's something different. Jerry is great, Jerry is

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00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: great and all that he did, but it's something about

807
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: Mass and Teo and I can't even explain. I can't

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00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: even put in the words people in the chat. You

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Speaker 1: you would have to really love the game of football

810
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: coaches or or or or or or players from the

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Speaker 1: past to even understand what I mean, the fact that

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Speaker 1: I really want to get really passionate about it. But

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Speaker 1: I can't break it down the way I want I can't.

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Speaker 2: You know why you can't get passionate.

815
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Speaker 1: I can't break it down the way I want to

816
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: because everything, the focal point of everything is numbers.

817
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: Because players for it that numbers matter at times.

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Speaker 1: Numbers can't even tell the whole story based on Mass

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Speaker 1: saying he's the greatest to ever play the game. But listen,

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Speaker 1: but but what with with what he's saying, I'm putting

821
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Speaker 1: Randy one A, ti Yo one B or you can

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Speaker 1: flip off me either way. I love what Jerry did.

823
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Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. It will probably never be reached even

824
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Speaker 1: with the extended games and playing seventeen games. It's just

825
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: for me. For me, I understand what most means. I

826
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Speaker 1: understand what he means, and he didn't have to and

827
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Speaker 1: he didn't even have to go in death with the numbers.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have to go on death. He feels he's

829
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Speaker 1: the greatest because of.

830
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: Who. Feelings aren't facts.

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Speaker 1: Listen, it's hard to it's hard to explain. It's hard

832
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: to explain because everybody will debunk his case because of

833
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: the numbers. That's it, Oh Joe, I'm just telling you.

834
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Speaker 2: I'm listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain that I just said,

836
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm just telling you. I seen them

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00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: boys with my own eyes. Man, I seen them boys

838
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: up close with my own eyes. We ain't never seeing

839
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Speaker 1: nothing like that. Eighty one, neither one of them.

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Speaker 2: Eighty one You think you gonna see You just said

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00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: you would never see what Jerry did again, two hundred

842
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: and eight total touchdowns. So you tell me the person.

843
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: Who times are different now If.

844
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: You don't, I'm glad you said that because they didn't

845
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: throw the ball like they do now.

846
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: They didn't throw the ball, and Jerry's is shitting me.

847
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: That motherfucking West Coast offense. Jerry was in with god

848
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: damn Steve Young and they didn't what but you talk

849
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: about they ain't throw the ball. I didn't do that

850
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: you think they so you know they did was throw

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00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: the ball.

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00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: Now, this man gonna kill me. This man I was.

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: I was there. What you talking about?

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00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: How you mean how you was there? I was there.

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00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: I played the laws there too, O Joe. I played

856
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: the lion share of my career in the West Coast system.

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00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I know I was the ball boy. I was the

858
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: ball boy for the forty nine ers.

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00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: Hello, Harr's Jerry Rice. Jerry is a thirteen time Pro

860
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Speaker 2: bowl a, ten time All Pro, a three time Super

861
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: Bowl champion, got A, three a Super Bowl MVP, and

862
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: two time Offensive Player of the Year. Randy Moss is

863
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: a six time Pro Bowler, a four time All Pro.

864
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: No Super Bowls, no MVPs, no regular season MVPs. Okay, okay,

865
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: we didn't put to your y'all.

866
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: Y'all don't understand the people throwing out all them fucking numbers.

867
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: Just don't understand. Tell me what I understand. That will

868
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 1: never be another to Yr.

869
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: Moss, But there'll be another Jared Rice.

870
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: No, it's being possible. It will be impossible. Impossible, want

871
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: to be impossible. Listen to me, man, it will be

872
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: impossible because of the longevity, the longevity, the level of

873
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: talent and skill has increased. You're never yet, that's not

874
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: gonna happen again.

875
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: But you do realize that Jered have it? Hold on,

876
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: didn't Jerry have a thousand yards season at age forty?

877
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Pull that up? I just want to make sure. I

878
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: just want to make sure for context, because you say

879
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: you love for people to provide context the greatness of Jared.

880
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: Shoot, hey, I want to talk about the greatness of

881
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: Monthfuger Moss and to yo okay.

882
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. That's why, that's why I requested

883
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: this topic with.

884
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: Great I hate I hate what.

885
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Forty Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice at age forty had twelve

886
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: hundred and eleven yards. If I'm not mistake.

887
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Hey, with the Raiders, yes, with rich gannon.

888
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Give me, give me all. I think I think Randy's

889
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: last thousand yard season he might have been thirty. So

890
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: we are we gonna Are we gonna disregard Tennessee? Are

891
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: we gonna disregard that that return trip to Minnesota? Are

892
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: we gonna disregard the forty nine ers? What are we

893
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: doing about those stints? Yo? My name is Chad, got mean,

894
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: oh yoe?

895
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do about Listen, I know we look alike.

896
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: I know we're looking like. I got goto staff, I

897
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: got too stats up here. Also listen, hey, you heard me?

898
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: H thirty two? So his last five yards season was

899
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: at thirty two. Jerry's last five yard season was.

900
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: At fort at forty. Give me a hey, that's nice.

901
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: That that's that's that's real nice.

902
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: TiO was a sixth time Pro Bowl, a five time

903
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: All Pro. He's one of three men that's ever been

904
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: a first team All Pro on three different teams. TiO,

905
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: uh historic Ted Hendricks and won Our Good Friend Primetime.

906
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: Only three men have ever been first team All Pro

907
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: on three different teams.

908
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, TiO, Hey, yes, I have a question in life

909
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to what you like. We all have preferences, right, yeah, right, yes,

910
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: And so with those preferences, there's always context that goes

911
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: with those preferences based on why you like them. So

912
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: for me, Jerry Rice's numbers are great. What Jerry did

913
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: during this time was great. But for me, my preference

914
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: as a receiver, and I love them all. You know,

915
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't talk bad about nobody. You know that about me,

916
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: I don't talk bad about nobody. My preference based on

917
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: what I was able to see with my own eyes

918
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: up close on the field, shared a team with t

919
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: O to get a better understanding on his greatness. To me,

920
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: them two are my mount Rushmore of receivers. Now, I'm

921
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: not taking nothing away from what they did statistically, oh

922
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: my gosh, statistically, or what Jerry did statistically, because when

923
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: it comes to the great, yeah, when it comes to

924
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: the goat, that is what Jerry is. That's what he is.

925
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: But for me, I just said, based on the numbers,

926
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: you're not listening to me. You got to stay with

927
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: me that stuff. You're not listening. You hear what you

928
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: want to hear you.

929
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: Oh, Yoe, you just spent all this time saying Randy

930
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: was the greatest.

931
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Well you know, honestly, they all great.

932
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: That No, No, that is what we do, ojoeat what

933
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: we do.

934
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a question.

935
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Kobe, Lebron, Michael Jordan, Yeah, I got I got Bron.

936
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: They're all great. Yes, they're all great. Okay, I just

937
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: said that. You just agreed to me, and I just

938
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: said Randy, t O and Jerry are all great. But

939
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: I got Lebron has to go all that number all

940
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: that numbers are different.

941
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: I got to go. Everybody knows that I got Lebron

942
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: is to go.

943
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you have Lebron as a go, yes, and okay

944
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: you based on statistics, because that's what you would used

945
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: right now, if I would, if I, if I would

946
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: have tried to debunk the fact, right.

947
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, st But but see, here's the thing, O, Joe,

948
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: I believe, I believe in because here's the thing. In football,

949
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: it's hard for a skill position player other than the

950
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: quarterback and the running back to win the m v P. Right, So,

951
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 2: but Jerry does have two offensive Players of the Year.

952
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: He should actually he should have won. He should have

953
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: won the m v P and agen VP in eighty

954
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: seven the strikes the strike eighty should have won that, Yeah,

955
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: eighty seven. He should have won the m v P.

956
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: I think he lost it by one vote to John.

957
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: But when you if you, if I want people to go,

958
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: because we're gonna do a poll, who do we think

959
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: the greatest receiver of all time is Randy uh t

960
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: O or Jerry? If you go look at the numbers

961
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: and you see how far Jerry, I mean, there's nothing.

962
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if you see how far the numbers and

963
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 2: you see the the the accolades. I just don't know how.

964
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: And it's not I can see, Okay, you know you

965
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: know how.

966
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 1: You know you know how because I play I play

967
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: receiver and I've seen them boys up close, and I

968
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: know what they can do. And I've seen it. I've

969
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: seen it. I don't know how to put it in

970
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: the words. I don't know how to explain it. But

971
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: when if that ship, we ain't seeing nothing like that again? Man,

972
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: and God through Calvin Johnson and that motherfucker why I'm

973
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: cursing today, God forgive me, I said, I'm sorry.

974
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: Right now. We got three thousand votes. Jerry has fifty

975
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: six percent of the vote, Randy has thirty five, O

976
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: has nine percent. We'll check. We'll circle back with that later. Uh,

977
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: let's go. Simone Biles husband, you know what some Miles

978
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: is the gym Miss Samone Biles husband said he didn't

979
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: know who she was when they met. Says he's the catch. Sam.

980
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Come on, man, thank you man, thank you. Joe. He

981
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: appears he said what he to who he said? He's

982
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: the catch. Simon Boles and Jonathan Owens appeared on the

983
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: Pivot podcast this week, which is Ryan Ryan Clark of

984
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: fred Taylor and Channing Crowder's podcast, Guys do a great job.

985
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: I love you guys. You know I worked with Ryan.

986
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: I saw Freddy t and and chanting them at the

987
00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 2: at the fight right at the Bud Crawford and uh uh,

988
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: what's still the girl? Errol Arrow Aero Spencer Jr. And

989
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: I saw them and got an opportunity to really talk

990
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: to them. For this man to fix his mouth to

991
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: say he has he had no idea who some ow

992
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: bios was and supposedly they went in twenty twenty. Now

993
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: that was the time where the Olympics. Now the Olympics

994
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: got postponed a year, but she was the face. She

995
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: was the face of American gyp of Olympics.

996
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: Maybe he and here's the ojo.

997
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: And here's another thing. They're on this dating site for

998
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: famous people. Why the hell is he on there? I

999
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: get while she's on it.

1000
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: They got a dating safe for famous people.

1001
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: It's called writer, it's called rayah on that.

1002
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: They got INSTAGRAMM. They got Instagramm.

1003
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: But it offers a level of protection because she is

1004
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: some owe bios and you know, she just can't be,

1005
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: you know, talking to any weirdos. So I guess I

1006
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: guess they betted it. I have no I have no

1007
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: qualms or why she on that site? My question is

1008
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: why is he on it?

1009
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: Hold on?

1010
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: Hold on?

1011
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: What was that word you just said?

1012
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 2: What qualms?

1013
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Okay, let me write that down because I'm I'm gonna

1014
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: use that and I'm gonna use that in conversation right there.

1015
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: But I like that, bro, So that's my my thing.

1016
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: And for him to talk about he's the catch, right

1017
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: right kind of cat man, I hear it. I get

1018
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: it because look here, this is how you know you're

1019
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: not the catch when everybody refers to you as Simone

1020
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: Bile's husband instead of by your first name. Yeah, yeah,

1021
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: that's Samone Biles husband.

1022
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: And I think he I think he understands that. I

1023
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: mean he understands that. I think he knows. And I

1024
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: think Simona is allowing him to be the man and

1025
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: make it seem as if you know you you are

1026
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: the one, you know, but the rest of the world

1027
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: will always see him as Simon Bio's husband and that

1028
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: and that's that, know, no disrespect to him. He does

1029
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: this thing, you know with the packers. But Simoan Bows

1030
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: is a the global iconic figure, the global yes, iconic figure.

1031
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean the most accomplished gymnasts.

1032
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: She has.

1033
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: She has moves the biles they even did. She got

1034
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: moves that she can't even do in competition because nobody

1035
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: else can do the moves.

1036
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she is the she is the most decorated.

1037
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, as far as those, I mean,

1038
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: look how many times she's won the World championships. Look

1039
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: how many times she's won the US Championships. Uh, Larissa

1040
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: latinao the great Russian but Simons look yeah yeah, oh yo, yes, yeah,

1041
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: you got your used that you pauled like damn folk

1042
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: know everything?

1043
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I.

1044
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: Know about Yeah, I love about Larissa Latina, I know

1045
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: about Olga Corp, I know about not of your cominique.

1046
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, yes, yes, I know about the gymnastics. Now,

1047
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: don't don't do that. I used I used to work

1048
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: the balance being in high school. Yeah, I used to

1049
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: work the ballance being in high school. But I just

1050
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: hey that that would be an that would be a

1051
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: fun relationship. In the off season, though, what like competing

1052
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: against flipping them too, just just going at it, competing

1053
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: in different different things that have to coletic ability.

1054
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,479
Speaker 2: O Joe she's only four, she's only four foot tall.

1055
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: Maybe she weighs one hundred pounds. I don't think you

1056
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: weighed that much. But she to be able to you

1057
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: out understanding she you have to be able to how

1058
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: how wound, how tight.

1059
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: She's wound, wound right right right right.

1060
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: To be able to hit those moves and the tumble, yeah,

1061
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: and to locate and then to come down because a

1062
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: lot of those moves she's doing in reverse. Mm hmm

1063
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: when she.

1064
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: Whe Let me tell you something. Let me tell you

1065
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: something about tumbling. Back in the days, Scott projects in

1066
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: the eighties, the mattresses, you know, we had the two mattresses, right, yeah,

1067
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: you take the two mattresses. When your mama, mama, your

1068
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: mama make you change the mattresses, you know, talk about

1069
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: throw them away, put them on the put them on

1070
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: the put them on the pile. So then come pick

1071
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: them up. Man, we ain't put we ain't put the

1072
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: mattress on the pile. You get, you get two of them.

1073
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: You get your homeboy mattress, get your mattress. Boom. What

1074
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: do you think we out there doing?

1075
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: Flipping? Flipping?

1076
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: That's how we started. I know, you get Scott, Yeah,

1077
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: oh no, well we can flip. Now we can flip.

1078
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: So that was our that was our gymnastics. Scott projects

1079
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: me and Stupid minutes. You remember Marvel minutes, right, yes?

1080
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: Remember man? Listen man. We used to battle and who

1081
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: can flip? Who can flip the best? That that to me,

1082
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: that's an exciting relationship because if I was if I

1083
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: was him, I'd be challenging her every off.

1084
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: Season to do what lose?

1085
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: Nah, I'm just I'm just saying, like, put push the envelope,

1086
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: push the envelope. Let us let her let them. What'sh

1087
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: the on blow?

1088
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: That's like saying if you, if you was, if you

1089
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: dating Shakarrie Richards, say, come on, baby, I'm gonna I'm

1090
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: gonna blow the nose off you.

1091
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: Oh oh, we're gonna race. We're gonna do thirty thirty

1092
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: yard thirty meters, thirty meters.

1093
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: She gonna have your ham free. You'll grow. Oh.

1094
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: Now you know I'm in save baby, I'm in very

1095
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: good shape. But I said thirty meters because I know

1096
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: I can get I can get out. I know I

1097
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: could get out once. She but my drive phase is nice.

1098
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: You got to see my drive fame.

1099
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: Out because This is the difference between football speed and

1100
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: track speed, because I.

1101
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: Got I got track speed. Though I got track speed. Listen,

1102
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: it's three listen, stay with me, baby, it's three different

1103
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: phases and running. You got to drive face. You got

1104
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: to drive face.

1105
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: Yes, you feel me? Yeah?

1106
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what I am. I'm a driver.

1107
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm like Christian Coleman. You see, I had the fastest.

1108
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: I got the fastest five, ten, and twenty. That's why

1109
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: I made my money.

1110
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 2: There and a whole lot of they, and a whole

1111
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: lot of men that's not professional, not not fright stars

1112
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: that can carry richardson right.

1113
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, she'll be everybody I'm talking. She beat your

1114
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: ass too. That's why I only I said thirty meters.

1115
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to go no first embarrassed me.

1116
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's ten meters. Okay.

1117
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: See, you're doing me wrong. You're doing me wrong. I

1118
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: just told you my start, Joe, Christian comman O, Joe,

1119
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: you're not used to be in in no blocks? How

1120
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: you to? I trained with Fred Curly. Ain't gonna tell

1121
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: me I used to be in no blocks. You know what.

1122
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I will get on when

1123
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: I've done here, I'm gonna get on the front with

1124
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: Curly and I'm gonna call me, call.

1125
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: Fred and ask Fred if we don't train together at

1126
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: Tropical Park, I trained with Fred. Okay, I get yeah,

1127
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: and listen, Me and Fred do block work together. We

1128
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: do two fifties three hundreds, Like I'm like that.

1129
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you doing them two fifties and

1130
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: three hundred ain't gonna help you in those thirty meters,

1131
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: So keep on. I know I was.

1132
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: I was helping train and talking shit in his heal,

1133
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: just to getting prepared for a meet.

1134
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: Samonn bows Is thirty times. She won thirty world medals,

1135
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: twenty three goal six, six time world all around titles.

1136
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: She's the first woman to win six all around titles

1137
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen to fifteen, eighteen to nineteen, and she did

1138
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: it again and twenty twenty three, and she was just

1139
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: awarded the presidential Biden Awarded Medal of Freedom. But you know,

1140
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: let's just let's just say for the sake of argument,

1141
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody in their right mind think

1142
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: he does it. He didn't know who she was. Let's

1143
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: just say that. But to try to fix that mouth

1144
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: and try to Oh I'm the catch, bro you not

1145
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: broy you not you listen.

1146
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe what if it was a good thing, Maybe

1147
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: they had the dynamic in the relationship where she's allowing

1148
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: him to have fun. Sometimes women, sometimes women play that game.

1149
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: You know what, I know who I am, I know

1150
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: what if I've accomplished, but I don't want to make

1151
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: it seemed like I am bigger than my man.

1152
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: So it's okay, But oh Joe, you under Oh Joe,

1153
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: unless you are Jay Z and you married Beyonce, Who

1154
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: in the hell else can Beyonce be with that? She's

1155
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: not gonna be bigger than And look, I don't want

1156
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: to start in the room, but Lebron James, I mean,

1157
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 2: you gotta get something thinking about it. More times than not,

1158
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: they're only about probably about five men in the world,

1159
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 2: in the world that Beyonce could be with that, She's

1160
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: not gonna be bigger than.

1161
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: You know what, I ain't. I ain't even touching that.

1162
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: That's I'm just saying that's Beyondes Taylor Swift.

1163
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: But that there are there you know that there are

1164
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: billionaires that we don't know about that are that.

1165
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: But that's the point. Don't nobody know about him. That's

1166
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: why they want their own professional team so that you

1167
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: can know about him. That's my point, Taylor Swift. How

1168
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: many men in the world right now is that they

1169
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 2: that Taylor Swift ain't gonna get top billy boy. Listen.

1170
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are very few people that have that type

1171
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: of I call it that, that type of aura life changes,

1172
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: life changing. If they're attached to you, it will change

1173
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: your life, which is why normally you can't even tell

1174
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: people like that to date up. Where the fun you going?

1175
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: Yes, where are you going?

1176
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: Jesus God, you already you already at the top. Yeah,

1177
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's that's dope. When you think about it,

1178
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: that's crazy. That's crazy.

1179
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: By Oprah. How many people get man, it is what

1180
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: it is. And you know, and you know, when you

1181
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: date somebody like that or you married somebody like that,

1182
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: you've got to be real secure in yourself because they

1183
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: gonna get top billy.

1184
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right by that.

1185
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: And when I think about it, when I think about

1186
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: their dynamic, you know, beautiful couple. But that's similar to

1187
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: that of Oprah and Steedman. You know, maybe he could

1188
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: just play. You can just play the back. You just

1189
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: play the background, like the way Stepmen does. He let

1190
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: let's simone take all the all the shine, all the glory.

1191
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: What she gonna do anyway, because of who she is,

1192
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: she's an iconic figure. And I think he understands that, right.

1193
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: Think about it? Uh, she said in an interview, in

1194
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: a couple of years, nobody is going to be calling

1195
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: him Simon Bio's husband. They're going to call me Jonathan

1196
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: Owen's wife. That it's gonna happen, baby, that it gonna happen.

1197
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: That's what that's that's a wife.

1198
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: You hear that? Yes, But think about it. I mean,

1199
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: she's already fourteen, so she has to even shrink herself

1200
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: even more. M It's okay for one spouse to be

1201
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: bigger than the other. It's okay for the female to

1202
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: be top billy.

1203
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: You know what?

1204
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: You know what you're getting yourself into?

1205
01:00:58,880 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1206
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I but it's I mean, look, I could

1207
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: be totally wrong, but it sounds like to me she's

1208
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: saying that because I think in her profile she got

1209
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 2: Jonathan Owens's wife, Am I correct? I think I think

1210
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: she wants to make him feel better because unless he

1211
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: unless he turned the air read I don't do it

1212
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: to Tevin or Dion. Is he gonna turn in the pride?

1213
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: Listen, John Johnathan Owen is A is A is a

1214
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: very very good player. I love him to death.

1215
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: She got she got in her profile. She got a

1216
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: ring wife at jay Owens. That's the first thing she got. This,

1217
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: she got Olympic gold medalist. This, she got Margarita and

1218
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: Mimosa's lover. This, she got dog mom, This, she got Houston,

1219
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: then she got snapchatsm On Biles.

1220
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: Listen, what's the first thing she got. What's the first

1221
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: thing in her profile?

1222
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: Again, a ring wife at jay Owens. There we go.

1223
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: That's all that matter right there. Yeah, that's all that's

1224
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: That's that's all that matter right there, brother Ja.

1225
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: But held on. This is what he got on his athlete,

1226
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: just a kid from Saint Louis wife at Simone Biles.

1227
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: You notice the difference what he got first?

1228
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: What he got first? Yeah? Okay, oh yeah, okay. I'm

1229
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: just making sure you gotta behaved.

1230
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm just just putting that out there because you told

1231
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: me you like context, and I wander to provide. You

1232
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: wanna make sure I'm provided.

1233
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.

1234
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: That was.

1235
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: That was a good context.

1236
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it.

1237
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: They are a cute couple. Cute couple.

1238
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, a Florida man catches a gator in a

1239
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: garbage being. I don't know if you see this, Ojo,

1240
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: Hey what Florida? Yeah?

1241
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: Gators? Yeah, man, man, we had them things that when

1242
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: we were Shorty's.

1243
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: Now you ain't had no bligators with that far from

1244
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: Liberty City, but in open.

1245
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: Locker man on in the canal for the gators right there.

1246
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: That ain't nothing new.

1247
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, go then and finished. So he called him, He

1248
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: called him in a garbage bandy, I saw that you

1249
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: ever had it running with a gator?

1250
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: No, I'm in the hood. You know they did not

1251
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: to the hood. If they are in the hood, well listen,

1252
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: let me tell you when they are in the hood

1253
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: in which I saw. They were very frequent back back

1254
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: in the day we talk about early early late late eighties,

1255
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: early nineties. Yes, for some reason out of the D

1256
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the D word. The D

1257
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: boys here where I'm going. Yeah, a few of them

1258
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: had urgently had gators. When they got a little too big,

1259
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,439
Speaker 1: they let him go in the canal, but I don't

1260
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: know what it was. My homeboy, remember Darnell Dockett, Yeah,

1261
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: Darnell Dockett had him with goddamn gator. I'm not sure

1262
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: what he did with him, but obviously when they get

1263
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: to a certain size, you gotta let him go. But

1264
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,479
Speaker 1: for some reason, there was a fad at some point

1265
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: in Florida, in Liberty City probably other places as well,

1266
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: where people had god damn gators. You go to the

1267
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: games at Miami Dad Community College, you got dudes in

1268
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: there off the ave off sixty first. You owned about

1269
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: sixty first. But anyway, they had they had little gators

1270
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: with him, and they had tape round them out.

1271
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what, because they don't want you to

1272
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 2: buy them because all the pressure is closing down.

1273
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: You can't understand that. But I'm saying, why would you

1274
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: have gators at the game with the leash and the

1275
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: collar and all.

1276
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the same thing you get these pythons.

1277
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: They get these snakes that they gonna know they're gonna

1278
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: go too big for you to handle them. They release

1279
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: them in the wild, they have no natural predator, and

1280
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: now they just run through. Now they run through the

1281
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: habitat and get big. Yeah, it's huge because if you

1282
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: don't have an if you don't have a natural predator,

1283
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: they just grow and grow and grow and so not multiply.

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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so you don't want you like snakes?

1285
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't like snakes. I'm so.

1286
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean, are you scared of?

1287
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: Like hell out of them?

1288
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: Now?

1289
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna do to yoo because I had them. Look,

1290
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: we was growing up the country. I'm from the country,

1291
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: and I ain't have no problem, but we had them.

1292
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: I mean we had a rat, snakes, chicken snakes. If

1293
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: you have rat, you would have snakes, right, if it's

1294
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: simple as that. And my grandma would be cooking and

1295
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: have the three and that's the boy. Here come one

1296
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: trying to come into the house. Come get it. Me

1297
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: and my brother go down there and breaking our real

1298
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 2: proper We break about real proper.

1299
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: Is it is there animal? If you came in contact

1300
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: with that, you would be scared of.

1301
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: With just my just my naked hands, just my bare hands.

1302
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, just yeah, just.

1303
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: Hypothetically yeah yeah yeah, sure, like not a fox. I'm

1304
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: not scared. I'm not a rabbit. Fox already. They so

1305
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: little they should they tear your hands up though. A fox,

1306
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: yeah with.

1307
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 1: The bushy tail.

1308
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1309
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 1: They not aggressive, though, are they.

1310
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: Not normally not normally not normally but probably like a

1311
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: bob you know, a cougar, mountain lion, whatever you want

1312
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: to call them, stuff like that. But you know, when

1313
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: we grew up, you know, we saw bobcasts and we stuff.

1314
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: They normally they're they're as afraid of you as you

1315
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: are them. Same thing with a snake. I mean obviously

1316
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: you know snake that if they got anything that has babies,

1317
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna protect their babies. Oh yeah, so you just

1318
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: have to be careful, like you know snake has you know,

1319
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna protect those. Uh like a courch whip. Now

1320
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: they're aggressive, but you know we a courch whip. They popular,

1321
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: they tell you know, I ain't never heard that. That's

1322
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: the first time I never heard that. Yeah. My grandma,

1323
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: my great grandma, my grandmother's granny's mom got stumbled across

1324
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: one and she got two clock. I guess she had

1325
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: had a nest somewhere my grandma has started. Yeah yeah,

1326
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: but nah, but I don't really I don't really fear

1327
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: a whole lot of animals, Uh, I mean, I respect them.

1328
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't really just like for me like snakes, because

1329
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 2: I knew snakes. The snakes that we were killing was

1330
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: trying to eat my grandmother's chickens, not not not per

1331
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 2: se the chickens, but the biggest and if I shot

1332
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: and we shot something like a possum or rad coolers,

1333
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 2: they were trying to eat my grandmother's chicken. And so

1334
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: that was a no no. There were those like even

1335
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: though we really didn't eat the chickens, after we got

1336
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: to a certain point, my grandmother would go buy the chickens.

1337
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: She just liked to have a mout there. And so

1338
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: anything you like, boil something after them chicken. Me and

1339
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: my brother get up, get the flashlight. See what it is.

1340
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: We start blasting.

1341
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy.

1342
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: You know what?

1343
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: What about? Okay, animal you're scared of? What about your favorite?

1344
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: Your favorite animal? I'm assuming as a dog because you

1345
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: all love.

1346
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: But if I can get, if I can give another animal,

1347
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: I want to pat raccoon so bad. There are several

1348
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: things I want to pet.

1349
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: Can you domesticate? Can you domesticate a racord?

1350
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely? A many whoror a mini cow, a mini donkey.

1351
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm a donkey.

1352
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they be gonna just be.

1353
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: That's as big as they get.

1354
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

1355
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: So I can see I can see you. I can

1356
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: see you doing all that. When you retire and you

1357
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: hang everything up, you go get you some nice lands.

1358
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: Well yeah, have all them.

1359
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite, my favorite animal obviously for those people

1360
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 1: that have been following me over the years, my entire

1361
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: right side of my leg from the waist all the

1362
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: way to the ankle is killer whales. You know, I

1363
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: love killer whales. I have a fascination and love huh wales.

1364
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: What wolves of the sea.

1365
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wolves of the sea.

1366
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're the only thing that they'll attack. They'll

1367
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: attack anything. They're so smart anything anything. There's not a

1368
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 2: there's not a whale that they I mean other whales

1369
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: that I mean, sperm whale, hump back gray.

1370
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: Well, you know they got they got they got different

1371
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: types of They got different types of orcas, some of

1372
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: them trans transient orcas. Resident orcas. Transient orcas are more

1373
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: prone to attack seals, dolphins and other orcas like that.

1374
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: And dude, I have this. If I didn't make it

1375
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: to the NFL. If I didn't make it to the NFL,

1376
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I play around a lot, and

1377
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: obviously can tell based on my tone and delivery. I'm

1378
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: being serious. I wanted to be a marine biologist and

1379
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 1: study killer whales. It was it was, it was it

1380
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: was that or veterinarian. Yeah, something something about killer whales

1381
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: that they My grandma took me a long time ago

1382
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: to sea World leader passed away recently, and I didn't

1383
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: understand how bad it was for killer whales being held up. Yeah, yeah,

1384
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 1: until until I saw Blackfish. Did you see the documentary

1385
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: Black Yeah? So until I saw that, then I got

1386
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: a better understanding and and never went and never went

1387
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: anymore and just did my my my love for him

1388
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 1: now is I'm waiting to go to nowhere in New Zealand.

1389
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: You know they have Oh you go out there and

1390
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: track them and you can find them in the natural habitat.

1391
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get you can get in the water though. No,

1392
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm just telling you. I'm telling I'm

1393
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: taking real with me. I don't think real honey get

1394
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: in the water. But I'm gonna get in the water

1395
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 1: and snorkel with him. I can't wait for that. I

1396
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: can't wait for that.

1397
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just I mean growing up in

1398
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: the country and you're around, you're around. I mean my

1399
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: grandfather had hall so that's what he mainly had, and

1400
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: he had we had dogs. Obviously. My grandmother ended up

1401
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: getting a cat from she founded at the nursing home

1402
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: and brought it home and had one cat the next thing,

1403
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 2: you know, Tiger Gal. My grandmother named the tiger Gally.

1404
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: We had twenty five cats. But yeah, man, they made

1405
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: But you know when you have when you you grow

1406
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: up on a farm, you just have a just like man,

1407
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: you just I mean, like I said, we had hogs,

1408
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: We had names. We had a Hampshire which is a

1409
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: black and white named Sonny. He was the biggest one

1410
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: we had. He probably weighed five hundred pounds. We had

1411
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: a deu rock male named Kelly that didn't play didn't

1412
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: play the fiddle. Uh he tear. So we had one

1413
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: named Bill. We had a h I think Bill was

1414
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: a probably a Yorkshire bill and Marvin big white males,

1415
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: but had we had to keep him separated. But Sonny,

1416
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: Sonny was was I was our favorite. My grandfather was like,

1417
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: once my uncles and I everybody start having kids, they

1418
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 2: weren't around and so he felt that he might have

1419
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: attack him. But he had tusts, he had tuss like this,

1420
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: Me and my brother could let him out and walking

1421
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: around the yard like he was a dog. Go hoe

1422
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 2: rubb him on his side. That fire hundre pound joke.

1423
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 2: We just rolled over and with a boy putting that

1424
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 2: hog back up.

1425
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: So hogs, hogs aggressive and dangerous, ain't it. That's what hogs.

1426
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: That's now. The females, especially if they have if they

1427
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: have a litter, they have piglets, they light you up.

1428
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: Oh yo, Okay. They don't play. They don't play, they

1429
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: don't pay, they don't play about their babies. And so

1430
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: you have to be you have to be very very

1431
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: careful because yeah, because we had a couple of them

1432
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 2: that would dial some damage to our dogs. That the

1433
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 2: dogs got too close to him and I'm took a

1434
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: hundred stitches to close him up. She didn't play. She

1435
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: cut him everywhere, she cut him everywhere but loose. Yeah,

1436
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: we had to go. We had we had killed him

1437
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 2: and we didn't get in there. Chet killed him. Yeah yeah,

1438
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: so uh that's yeah, So that's that's my thing. Uh,

1439
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: horse we got off the grid, said Jerry played. Jerry

1440
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: played bok of his career with Hall of Famers. Randy didn't.

1441
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even Hey, I don't even want to all. Yeah,

1442
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: we have moved on. I love Randy and t O

1443
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: that ain't never gonna move the needle. For me. I

1444
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: love what Jerry did, no disrespect to him. I love

1445
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: the numbers. I've watched this film. I've studied this film.

1446
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: I've tried to copy some of the things he did

1447
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: when he played. He was someone that I studied and admired.

1448
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: But for me, my preference all the fellas in the chat,

1449
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: all the women in the chat. You guys have preferences

1450
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to other things outside of this. I

1451
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,839
Speaker 1: know we base everything on numbers when it comes to sports,

1452
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: but for me, I'm excluding the numbers based on what

1453
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: I what I saw with my own eyes, and who

1454
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: I prefer. That's all.

1455
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: Donielle Thompson said. Jerry is like Brady. He's the most accomplished,

1456
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: but not the greatest receiver. Shanon, you can understand that, No,

1457
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,919
Speaker 2: Brady is Brady is the greatest quarterback.

1458
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: Hey, I like the way he broke that down. No,

1459
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't say it, but you he just

1460
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: said it. For me, let me ask your question.

1461
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: Name the quarterback better than Brady?

1462
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: Huh?

1463
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: Named the quarterback better than Brady? Nick name the quarterback.

1464
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: Name the quarterback that played in the one hundred and

1465
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: three year history of the NFL. That's better than Tom Brady.

1466
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: Name the quarterback. Split Tom Brady in career. You could

1467
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: take Tom. I can make the case. So now I'm

1468
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 2: an advocate. Tom Brady's come to me, and I'm representing

1469
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: pro bono. I can split Tom Brady's career in half

1470
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 2: and make him the greatest. Stop playing with me. So now,

1471
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: if you've added in his totality, you mean to tell

1472
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: me that you said that there's another quarterback. Now, if

1473
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: you want to argue, say the greatest football player for

1474
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: me is Jerry and lt. Okay, fine, But if you're

1475
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: talking about a quarterback, ain't no quarterback better than Tom?

1476
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on people. If you talk about

1477
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: a comp you're talking about yards. You talking about what

1478
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 2: he was able to accomplish, game winning drives. What metric

1479
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 2: do you want to use.

1480
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to argue. I don't want to argue.

1481
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: I just the way he just broke that down is

1482
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say. I just couldn't put

1483
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: it in the words, but he put in.

1484
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:19,839
Speaker 2: But he flowed.

1485
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: He's flowed because he said, Jerry is like Brady.

1486
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: You won't give me and Darnelle chime back in, tell

1487
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: me the quarterback that's better than Tom.

1488
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm not good with quarterbacks. No, I'm not good for.

1489
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: Jerry is like Brady, the most accomplished. I'm asking him

1490
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: to give me a quarterback that's better than Brady Oh

1491
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: in order for his in order for his argument to

1492
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: carry water to whole weight, he's gonna have to give

1493
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 2: me a quarterback that's better than Brady Oh Jore under

1494
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: the same premise, ironically, Sterling should be considered top five

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 2: because of outside of injury. No wide receiver put up

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 2: Sterling's number first year of first seven years of productivity

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01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame under the Gael Sales rule. I agree,

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01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: but hey, it is what it is. Blone Covery says,

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Speaker 2: it's funny you found someone to raise your blood pressure

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01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: other than someone to break your blood pressure. Yeah, he

1501
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: does raise my blood pressure, he absolutely does. Blone Covery

1502
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: he liked the little brother that you gotta take everywhere,

1503
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: you gotta take somewhere with you everywhere you go or

1504
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: your mom not gonna let you go and you gotta

1505
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,839
Speaker 2: take it with you and you annoying?

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01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah who me? Yeah, yeah, Well I'm waiting. I'm waiting

1507
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: on you to take me the first take. Pretend I'm

1508
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: not little brother, and bring me on bring bring bring

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 1: me on down there. Hey baby, hey baby, I see you,

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01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: I see you, I see you. Yeah real, rare, you're real.

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01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: Watching said, we.

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01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 2: Need to start having a conversation by pooking the core

1513
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: being offensive. Rookie of the Year c J. Stroud has

1514
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: missed two games and that has to count from something. Absolutely,

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: it absolutely does, because when you look at Pookah's number,

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01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 2: O cho, he gonna be probably fifty what is pooking

1517
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 2: the pooking the coolest number?

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01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: He probably gonna fifty fifteen sixty on he didn't crossed

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01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: the thousand already, be well one thousand, yeah, yeah, he

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01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: way over a thousand. Yeah, like what one seventy sixth

1521
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: night one sixty something he.

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: Had one sixty four. I think woo whoa he got

1523
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: about thirteen fourteen hundred huh okay, so dang, we're gonna

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01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 2: get back to that.

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01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: I put wife and I put wife onto your highlight tape,

1527
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 2: she said, the Hug Holgan flex after score, the touchdown

1528
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: lack creativity. Aside from the Hall of Fame, Hall of

1529
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 2: the oh Cho, Hall of Fame, jacket celebration, what's your

1530
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 2: favorite TV celebration? Man, I think TV the pom Poms

1531
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: with TV, I mean with t O t O.

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01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: Hey, that was classic. The U the Sharpie, that was classic. Yeah.

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01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you had the uh the golf, that tiger

1534
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: Wood where you put it with the pilog.

1535
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: He had just won. He had just won some Saturday

1536
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: and I did it. I did it the next day.

1537
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, who else? Man? That They've been some There've

1538
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: been some good ones, man. You know what, man, Tyreek

1539
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: backflip celebration with the phone.

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: Hey, that was live, hear me? That might that might

1541
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: have been top that might have been top five right

1542
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: there all time. Just the fact that you in the

1543
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: middle of a game, Yes, you take somebody's phone and

1544
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: record yourself flipping and get the whole thing. That was live.

1545
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: That's only got eleven teacher. Yeah, he might be over

1546
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred right now, o Joe.

1547
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: Thirteen Yeah, wait Tyrek at wait Tyreek at fifteen hundred.

1548
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 2: Ye, only two hundred behind. But you gotta realize, Tyreek

1549
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: gotta play Sunday. Tyreek missed the game. Okay, Tyreek missed

1550
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: the game, right. Hey, that's a good game.

1551
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: Hey, that Cowboy game gonna be nice, a great game.

1552
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: God Ward and Blano had their hands full.

1553
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: Boy. If Tyreek can play, Oh, he playing? He playing.

1554
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: I gave I gave him the remedy.

1555
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Well, the thing is, Miami's gonna have to

1556
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 2: run the football because you can't get in a situation

1557
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: where you let dallads pin the ears back. You see how?

1558
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: You see how?

1559
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: What did the Bills do? What did the Cardinals do?

1560
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: Run the football? What did forty nine ers do? Run

1561
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 2: the football? Again? Thank you for joining us for another

1562
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite sports on Shannon Sharp,

1563
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 2: He's your favorite number eighty five, Chad o Jo Senko Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning again tonight. We'll see you again

1565
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: Saturday night, again Sunday night, and again Monday night. So

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01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: our goal is to try to hear fifty thousand in

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01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 2: the chat. We love to do it three nights in

1568
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 2: the row, but we got the help us. So tell

1569
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 2: a family tell a friend to get in this chat,

1570
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: pitch the question, and we're gonna get to as many

1571
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: questions we possibly can. We got some great games lined

1572
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Speaker 2: up this weekend, so we'll have a lot of storylines

1573
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 2: and a lot more stories to tell. Thank you, and

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01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 2: good night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love y'all.

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01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Hey baby, good night baby,