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Speaker 1: are all hands on deck meeting. Okay, the rest of y'all,

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Speaker 1: about to see is me and Derek kind of have

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Speaker 1: an emergency stay to the blackness meeting. We need to

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Speaker 1: show up at the beauty part of barbershop. We gotta

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Speaker 1: talk about things that like we just out here catch

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Speaker 1: its straights now. I recorded this. This is the second

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Speaker 1: time Derek and I have started something and then the

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Speaker 1: world completely changed by the time it came out. So

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Speaker 1: me and Derek recorded this two weeks ago. Derek is

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Speaker 1: in Derek Minor, who's like my real friend.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: He mixed and mastered all of my last four records,

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Speaker 1: all of the Terrorform albums. Like he's got a new

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Speaker 1: record out called Vigilanti right now. It's incredible him and

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Speaker 1: a hummy cannon. Derrek's one of the most talented brothers

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Speaker 1: I know. He is the epitome of Sophist the Ratchet

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Speaker 1: because that boy. Anyway, we did not know the first

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Speaker 1: time the world blew up was me and him were

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Speaker 1: planning on touring from an album that we made, y'all

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Speaker 1: hear my microwave, that's my lunch. An album we made

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen called Nothing but a Word, and we

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Speaker 1: were planning on a spring tour the spring of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and let you do the math.

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Speaker 1: So when we recorded this, Yo, your new little martyr,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was alive when we recorded this, so.

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Speaker 3: A lot has changed.

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Speaker 1: That's not it's funny. I'm not laughing at Charlie Kirk's death.

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Speaker 1: And just you gotta you gotta get these people disclaimers

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Speaker 1: for they get before they get really hurt, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's not not to one up y'all.

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Speaker 3: But y'all don't remember tray vonning.

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Speaker 1: As like a social media trend where you pretended like

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Speaker 1: you was dead on the ground with skittles and a

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Speaker 3: Y'all don't remember that, so anyway I remember it anyway, like.

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Speaker 1: George Zenneman wasn't on like a speaking towards signing the

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Speaker 1: gun he killed that young man with. But you mad

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Speaker 1: at us for acknowledging the words that came out of

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's mouth. Okay, we got it anyway, that had

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Speaker 1: not happened, Like so this assassination had not happened yet. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we just grossly overshot the time I mean of this thing.

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Speaker 1: But since Derek's one of one of my actual homies,

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Speaker 1: that's my ace boone coon, which I'm realizing is a

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Speaker 1: horrible phrase, so I'd rather say my man fifty grand.

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Speaker 1: We had some updates, right, So one of the updates

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Speaker 1: is like, how is HBCUs having their funding challenge? Why

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Speaker 1: are they having a shut down out of caution because

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Speaker 1: of the death threats coming too?

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Speaker 3: What we got to do with this? We did not.

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Speaker 3: It was almost like it with Derek was saying.

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Speaker 1: Derek was like, look man, it was almost like while

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Speaker 1: Trump and them was on Ice was on all the

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Speaker 1: immigrants ass, It's like when yo, mama's is whooping your

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Speaker 1: brother's ass. You know what I'm saying, He's staying in

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Speaker 1: Don't you start laughing over there, and you think, I

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Speaker 3: On some it was like we didn't even do anything well,

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Speaker 3: oh lord?

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Speaker 1: Then we were talking about Jimmy Kimmel and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: a special emergency Black meeting here. Oftentimes, emergency would mean

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Speaker 1: that there's a particular problem, and it's not so much

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually listening to myself of a lot right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm like, you want me tell you about

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Speaker 1: another civil right being removed from us? Like it did

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Speaker 1: Trump is putting federal agents in our streets. That's that's

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Speaker 1: citiest musicalist, hybridist friend on the pod Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: Derek Minor, what's up buddy?

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Speaker 4: And hell, what's had? I got the evil villain laugh

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Speaker 4: already know, but hey, let's get to it.

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Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways, you know, me

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Speaker 1: Derek is like equal parts Cashville and Detroit. So like

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, we we

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Speaker 1: Been more mature than all of us and deleted his

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Speaker 2: So I haven't deleted it, but I just I really have.

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Speaker 4: Like my reset on Instagram because for people to.

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Speaker 3: Please tell please tell me about this, this was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Right, So I had one hundred and thirty three thousand.

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Speaker 4: thousand on my original account, but man, it just the

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Speaker 4: like if you unfollow people, it creates this weird thing

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm so to start a new account because one,

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Speaker 4: I actually want to know who the heck actually cares

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Speaker 4: about what I'm doing. I don't care it's thirty people.

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Speaker 4: then two I see it refreshed, and honestly, it was

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Speaker 2: At the beginning. I still get the ad and all

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Speaker 4: I see a lot more of the stuff from the

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Speaker 4: Probably was actually just following too many people. Probably it

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Speaker 4: was so I saw the old account. I use it

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Speaker 4: to just like post clips. But the Derek you want

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Speaker 4: to hear my thoughts is at RMG. But all of

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Speaker 4: much where I'm at right now, what it is. I'm

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Speaker 5: Of feces, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: space to be like, yeah, I don't have to. There's

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Speaker 1: like is that something you think about though?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Nah, So my thought process in that sense is

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Speaker 4: this because I did have that initial thought, like am

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Speaker 4: I quitting like this idea? Because people know me for activism.

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Speaker 4: People know me for like my voice, and it's like,

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Speaker 4: Like all right, get out of the conversation. And for me, no,

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Speaker 4: I didn't because I feel like it's actually made me

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Speaker 4: like a lot of times when you look at social media,

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Speaker 4: it's well crafted narratives by expert marketers. Yeah, and you can.

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Speaker 4: You have to be able to juggle. Is this an

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Speaker 2: I get all my dudes from the barbershop.

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Speaker 4: Now we're back on that.

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Speaker 1: We're back on that. Look here, so this is no yeah. See,

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Speaker 1: this is why we had to have a black meeting.

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Speaker 1: It's like, nigga, you just go back to the hood.

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Speaker 3: It's like literal local news.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna call this shows Like I get

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Speaker 4: Or you use hip hop to clean it up.

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Speaker 1: So both of us are in music, both of us,

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 1: H on this this the rise and Fall of Young Thug.

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Speaker 4: I got a couple thoughts. Okay, Number one, this is

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Speaker 3: Number one?

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Speaker 4: Because a lot of them are between him or so.

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard everything, but I've only heard a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was Savage recording the tapes?

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Speaker 4: And did his team drop them or did the Because

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Speaker 4: Because they don't got bro? No more like that's a

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Speaker 3: And the like. That was the other thing for me,

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Speaker 4: This not Ai.

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Speaker 3: This ain't no AI. Okay, that's the boys.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe. So the reason why I don't believe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like, I don't hear it.

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Speaker 4: You can't use effects to make it sound like this.

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Speaker 4: for what reason? What? Like why are you doing this?

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Speaker 4: That's number one, number two. I'm sitting here like twenty

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Speaker 4: one Savage is the adult in the room, the nigga

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Speaker 6: Niggas keep jumping the gun, keep jumping the gun. But

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, you damn.

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Speaker 3: Right, you can tell the London boy your tap.

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Speaker 4: He has really become the adult in the room of

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, man was on trial for murders.

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Speaker 4: No organizations the way worse things than lie. But it's

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Speaker 4: They take all your kids and make them niggas snitch

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Speaker 4: that is the little niggas get is that all your partners,

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Speaker 4: are here getting shot forward, you saying what what? What?

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Speaker 3: What the do?

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Speaker 4: Them niggas is snitching.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're I'm like, listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: If you ain't listen, white people watching like just the

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Speaker 1: You're gonna start singing. Yeah, yup, they gonna start singing

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Speaker 1: when there's a problem. I love it, man. I think

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Speaker 3: No one's really being.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Like you buy you buy them streams. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's bought and soul like, don't So if you're putting

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like, so when you see them like, oh they got

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Speaker 4: You're awaking some of you artists, Some artists are waking

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Speaker 4: like they go viral every week. You're posting every single day,

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Speaker 4: It's just money here? It's all yeah, it's just the

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Speaker 4: work in order for you to build air platform. They

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Speaker 4: work like the lottery now, So I don't care. I

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Speaker 4: Guys like we are in the lottery. So going to

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Speaker 4: So if you built the following, you can say I'm

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: It's people that probably love Don't She's music have zero

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Speaker 3: And what I was gonna say is that they just

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Speaker 4: out goes to a brand new group of people. It

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00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 4: hits your like super duper, super duper diehard fans, but

435
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: outside of that, it doesn't hit anyone else. So that's

436
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: the reason why we don't have a bunch of new

437
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 4: acts that are actually killing it. In the mid market range.

438
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: You have either people that are doing stadiums, Carbon D

439
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: the Weekend, Drake Right or in Jelly Row, or you

440
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: have the people that are doing the clubs. But that

441
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 4: when we were growing, it was like.

442
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: Middle like clubs, churches, theaters.

443
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: You know, it would go seven hundred seed five fifteen hundred.

444
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 4: That's dead. So you can't grow like an act like

445
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 4: Don't She She needs that time to develop and.

446
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: Beneath that you play that you play those you play

447
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: the ginormous festivals in hopes to come back to that

448
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: city and do the thousand seater and do that and

449
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: then and then that's your tour.

450
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can't get to them.

451
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, like, I definitely like resented

452
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: the idea that like she was a meetiate, she was

453
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: like an industry plan. I resented that idea. I don't

454
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: believe that's true about her. Of course there's bots, you know,

455
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: it's botching everybody's things, but it's it's the reality of that.

456
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: Like I am still of the belief that there is

457
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: no substitute for getting in a van and getting in

458
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: front of people like you just you just have to

459
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: do the shows, you know what I'm saying, you have

460
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: to do. You have to make your rounds and there's

461
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: no shortcuts, you know what I'm saying. You have to

462
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: make the rounds. And I'm not saying she hasn't. I'm

463
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: just saying, you can't go from the coffee shop to

464
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: the stadium like without, like you said, a trillion dollar budget.

465
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I hate to admit this because I know

466
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: we're on hood politics and we're talking about the blacknet.

467
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: But the person that did it was for his frank

468
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: he did it correctly.

469
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, for those of you that don't know, he's the

470
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: biggest Christian artist out right now. But I was talking

471
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: to his booking agent. We were on a retreat, and

472
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: I know is a person that's over his agency, and

473
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 4: they intentionally on his first tour, he had a viral moment.

474
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: Let's take viral moment.

475
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: That good Day song that was on every every movie.

476
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah to be a good Day.

477
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy viral moment. Right they knew.

478
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: They were like, I think we could probably do bigger venues.

479
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: We're gonna put him in seven, seven hundred to fifteen

480
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 4: hundred cap rooms and we're going to smoke this market.

481
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: And that's what happened was those tickets gold out pretty easy.

482
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 4: I'm sure DOCI can put seven hundred people.

483
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: You can put seven hundred people in the room.

484
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: It's certain rooms. But when you've had such big moments,

485
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: sometimes you're like, oh, that's too little for me.

486
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna it's gonna be an embarrassment.

487
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: But same thing happened with Tyler over in Africa, like

488
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: South Africa's same situation, Like she had a big viral moment,

489
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: but rather than build that story, that case study, gather

490
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: that data those core people. Sometimes we think that the

491
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 4: Internet is real life, and it's these moments like this

492
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: that lets us.

493
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: Know it's not not real life.

494
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: It's not as it's not as connected as real life.

495
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm very happy though, to see like even the moment

496
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: that she is having that like, you know, the dark

497
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: skins are back. You know, that's always a plus. It's

498
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: always a plus for brothers like you and me.

499
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 4: She the truth. I love you.

500
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: She's incredible.

501
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of black women, it's with the next thing in

502
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: the state of the blackness situation is in the reality

503
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: that black women have been like shining in in tennis

504
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: for a very long time.

505
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: But this this current yo yup, yup, yup.

506
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: H so so Taylor Townsend just recently had had a

507
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: viral moment when this Lavia tennis player Jelenna I'm not

508
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: even gonna try her last name, was caught on camera

509
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: like you know, screaming and pointing and being real like

510
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: aggressive towards towards her.

511
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

512
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Speaker 1: And then at the end of it that the the

513
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: when she was the commentators were interviewing her and they

514
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: were asking her like yo, like what was she saying

515
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: to you, and she was saying, oh, she was saying

516
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I had no class and that she could never beat me,

517
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: and you know, or I can never beat her, and

518
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens when you go international. But she

519
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: was just being very incredibly out of pocket, like incredibly

520
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: out of pocket. So I'm gonna read from this quote

521
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: from w or from twenty five BWB dot org, which

522
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: is like Black Women of Beauty twenty five Black Women

523
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: of Beauty dot org. She said, watching Lafia tennis player Jelena,

524
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try her last name scream at Taylor Townsend,

525
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: a black woman from Smyra, Smyrna, Georgia, was triggering the

526
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: vitriol in her eyes, the finger pointing, the anger. Without

527
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: knowing what was actually said, one could dismiss this as

528
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: a competitive, child like tantrum that have come to define

529
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: the world of tennis. But when you realize what was

530
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: actually being said that in that childlike outburst, you realize

531
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: it was very serious, very serious. You have no class, Wow,

532
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: you have no education? Say what now wait to see

533
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: what happens when you get outside of US security. Time

534
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: and time again, black women are targeted and harmed for

535
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: simply defending themselves for walking with their heads up high

536
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: for us to have the audacity to move with dignity,

537
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: and enough is enough.

538
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: So let me ask, Okay, did was they were playing

539
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: tennis against each other?

540
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? They were done and and Taylor won. Yep, Okay,

541
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: this all sound like a black and white thing. This

542
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: sounds like you got your ass whooped and you can't

543
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: accept the whooping thing.

544
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. But what I'm trying, that's exactly

545
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: what happened.

546
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: She beat your ass, right, she beat your ass.

547
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: It's very obvious, right, But I think the point she's

548
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: trying to make is, like you take her.

549
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: Do you think it like Ruby Bridges?

550
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: You think about like you think of the vitriol that

551
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: Serena Williams got for just crip walking at the Super Bowl,

552
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: like where it's just like y'all always expect black women

553
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: to take the high road.

554
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: And she's praised about this.

555
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: I talked to Alma about this, who she's just like,

556
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: She's like, I wonder if it's like the the MLK

557
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: of it all, Like we as a country just like.

558
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: He like MLK.

559
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: Got the got the uh got the holiday, but ain't no,

560
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: ain't no Fred Hampton holiday, man. You know what I'm saying,

561
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: Ain't no holiday for people that stand up for themselves

562
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: like that.

563
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: You feel me.

564
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: So it's just like she's just like why can't she

565
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: get because like you said, like we look at that

566
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: white lady and say, oh, you just got your ass kicked,

567
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: and like, I mean, it is what it is. You

568
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: threw a tantrum for that, but I get it. You

569
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: you know you were You're competitive. It's an important moment,

570
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. Like, but it seemed like

571
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: black women don't get that benefit of the doubt often

572
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: mm hmm.

573
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: You know, if you asked me this question probably maybe

574
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: even last year, or or if we talked about this

575
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: maybe last year, two three years ago, I had a

576
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: different answer. But you know the thing that I realized,

577
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 4: like with this situation, this lady just showed that she

578
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: was just just showing the reflection of herself. Yeah, like

579
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: she was projecting what she doesn't have. Class. You didn't

580
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 4: lose with class, Like you didn't lose with class. You

581
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: were being belligerent, women, uneducated. You said all these different things,

582
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 4: and that woman did nothing but just beat you in

583
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: a sport by the rules. Like, so to me, when

584
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: I look at that situation, I'm glad that Taylor didn't

585
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: come down to her level because that's where she's at,

586
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: that's her emotions. Like I think black people, we're gonna

587
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: have to stop prioritizing white emotions and like it's like

588
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: that's them, the kukus Klan, that the problem. It's only

589
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: becomes my problem. So when you come over on this

590
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: side and then I have to deal with it. But

591
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: how you think about me, how you feel about me,

592
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: your emotional state towards me, it has zero to do

593
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 4: with me, but it has everything to do with you.

594
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: And it's the same thing with I say the same

595
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: thing for a black person, like white people don't want

596
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: to do this.

597
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: White people don't. It's like you we have to, Like

598
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: I've just learned.

599
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: I've just found out with myself that much of my

600
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: torment was internal. And this woman that God on Taylor

601
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: in this way, it's clear that she has self confidence issues.

602
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: Why because somebody that had real confidence knows that I

603
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: might have lost. But if I see her again, I'm

604
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: a trainer, I'm probably gonna be there next time. That's

605
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: what my mindset goes to when I lose, that's confidence.

606
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: This woman is insecure, and if Taylor was to, I

607
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 4: think this shows how powerful Taylor actually is because she

608
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: did let her insecurity rock her. She's like, well, you

609
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: have an adult temperotentium, you can have it. Go ahead

610
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: and have your adult temper potentium. Now she got to

611
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: get online and apologize to you, She got.

612
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: To get out of here and look like the fool

613
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: that she is.

614
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: Like and she and maybe she's a great woman, Maybe

615
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: she's a great person. Maybe this was just a moment

616
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: she let her ego overrun her. And I'm just like,

617
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: I don't have time for people's egos black, yellow, pink, purple.

618
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: If an alien has egos, I don't have time for

619
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: superman egos, Like I don't have any.

620
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 3: Time for Yeah, no, I totally agree.

621
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: I think I think the point though that they're making

622
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: in this in the is a is more of a

623
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: systemic discussion, because you're right, the reality is she ain't

624
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: got The reality is that the why they ain't got

625
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: no class, Like you don't have no class. That's why

626
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: you're saying that about this person, because you're behaving. You

627
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: had a classless moment, you understand what I'm saying so,

628
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: which is like, I guess, like I said, but the

629
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: pushback is like, why isn't that the story? Like why

630
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: is the story about the black woman and not about

631
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: this lady not having a classless moment?

632
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: And what is the story about the story is?

633
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the whole story, But like all the

634
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: interviews at least that are maybe it's because of my algorithm,

635
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: are about how she was able to hold her peace

636
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: in this situation. I flashed back to Dylan Ruth shooting

637
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: up the church in Charleston, and the story was about

638
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: how these old black people at this church was still

639
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: forgiving to them, and everybody was inspired about how forgiving

640
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: they were to them.

641
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I just I think I

642
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: think what.

643
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm hearing hearing in this pushback is like we seem

644
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: to be as a culture Black people are rewarded when

645
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: we're docile, and I don't want to and I don't

646
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: know if docile is the right word I'm being using

647
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: as a triggering word, but just more like when we're calm,

648
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Like when we're calm, you know what I'm saying, we're

649
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: applauded and that we took the high road, you know

650
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And then when those that are being

651
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: out of pocket with us lose, they're cool, They're they're

652
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: given the benefit of the doubt, Like you just had

653
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: like a moment, you know, you know what I'm saying.

654
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I think I think that the

655
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: idea is like when when are we ever allowed to

656
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: just have a moment?

657
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

658
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: It's dope that she did, you know, the more mature thing,

659
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: but like, but what if she didn't, Like why can't

660
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: we give her the reality to be like, yeah, she

661
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: was in your face, you said, yeah, clap back, Like

662
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you're allowed to have

663
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: that too. I think that that's that's that's a question

664
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: that I often because you know, like the quick answer,

665
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: at least culturally, is like, well, we might die, like

666
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: if we have a moment, you know what I'm saying,

667
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to like the police, we might die,

668
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: you feel me?

669
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: But like, why are we never allowed?

670
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: I just thought that was an interesting thing, And I'm

671
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: just like what you're saying, Like I said, what you're

672
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: saying is correct, you feel me?

673
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: I think I guess the point I'm making is everybody

674
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: knows I'm a Christian. So yeah, when I'm talking about faith,

675
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: is like God says that we know him in the

676
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: fellowship of suffering. And I think that that's why black

677
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 4: people know. That's why you see black people always talk

678
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: about God and everything his niggas. That's selling dope right now.

679
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: That's like listening to Fred Hammond.

680
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, God got me no weapon

681
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: for it, against.

682
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 4: Me, against me, prosper crazy. And the thing I'm saying is,

683
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: I think with us we have to come to grips

684
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 4: with the fact that we've just been called to a

685
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: greater standard. And I don't think that standard is by

686
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: white people. I honestly think that standard is by our

687
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: ancestors and by ourselves. Like I think that this is

688
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: a culmination of who we are as a people. Is

689
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 4: that when we get out of when we get out

690
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 4: of pocket, because think about it, the world goes as

691
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: we go. Think about culture, no facts, we leave the culture,

692
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 4: see the culture. So I look at it almost I

693
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 4: used to look at it and think, like dang man,

694
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: we can't never get no moment or every time something

695
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 4: happened we're always the ones that's the center of attention.

696
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: But that cost of being the center of attention, of

697
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 4: being elite culture is that people expect for you to

698
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: operate at such a higher level. And we've constantly done that.

699
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: That's the thing. The thing is, we've excelled at that,

700
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, we've been sailed at. Not

701
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 4: that we've excelled at giving being given half of what

702
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: someone else has been given, but but doing.

703
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: Double do you know what I'm saying, Like we said

704
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: that Plainton on the show, we've been the moral compass

705
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: of the country.

706
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: It's what it is. It's what it is. So when

707
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 4: if that's the case, then this is no different. We're

708
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 4: not going to get the moment where everybody's like, oh,

709
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: he crashed out, he should have crashed out, you know

710
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I think or I would say,

711
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: we have had those moments like during those George Floyd riots,

712
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: people knew, people knew. Listen, man, we do push these

713
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: black folks to the limit. And there's people that was

714
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: trying to say stuff on the other side, but majority

715
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: wise it was a reason why everybody got together and

716
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 4: said this has to stop, because they like, you know,

717
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: black people, y'all, don't push them to the limit. This

718
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: is beyond Yeah.

719
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too far.

720
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: Speaking of too far and being pushed, Like, I think

721
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: that there's a connection here with like the federal agents.

722
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: In d C.

723
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the ice raids in California. And I believe

724
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: it or not, I had Thistle on the show, uh

725
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: to talk about saying, Lewis, the fans are coming to

726
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Saint Louis next, you know, they talking about Chicago. I

727
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: think it's very interesting that Trump keeps targeting cities ran

728
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: by black people.

729
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: There's that you know what I'm saying.

730
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: Come on, we know what it is. You know what

731
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: it is.

732
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: We already know what it is. Right, he talking about

733
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: going to Baltimore. Baltimore's at a fifty year low of crime.

734
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because it ran by black people.

735
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?

736
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: Like so obvious, right, Uh.

737
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: But I think that there was this interesting conversation happening

738
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: here in LA about I remember what the no Kings

739
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: like rallies. You know what I'm saying, Like a lot

740
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: of black people was like, look, man, we told y'all

741
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: not to vote with this man, you you are. The

742
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: Christian version is like, you know, God is not mocked

743
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: whatever a man.

744
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: So with all he also.

745
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: Reap yourself said, you know the street shit was like

746
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: nigg okay, look fuck around, find out man.

747
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: In a find out phase.

748
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: We done told y'all, ass, you know what I'm saying, Like,

749
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: that's y'all you asked for this, you know what I'm saying.

750
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: But then when the ice rates started happening, there was

751
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: like obviously out here just the Black and Latino Committee,

752
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: obviously something that's like the black and brown unity, something

753
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: is very personal for me, but also coming from like

754
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: a black panther like sort of understanding of like how

755
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: institutional oppression affects us. All, there was still talk with

756
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: among black people about like that this ice shit, this

757
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: immigration shit may not necessarily be our fight and to

758
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: be like, look said this one now, this is not

759
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: our issue, you know. I My initial thought was like, okay,

760
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: so you've never seen a Central American black person, like

761
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: you're telling me that Africans don't immigrate, you know what

762
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But but there was talk around that that

763
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: they were like look, man, like seventy percent of Latinos

764
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: voted for him, like y'all chose this We tried to

765
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: tell you this man was a price album, you know

766
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

767
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: And y'all got anti blackness in y'all's culture too.

768
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: Like we try to tell you, I don't wonder I'm

769
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: wondering if you had any thoughts around that too.

770
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I kinda I'm in the middle, okay, because

771
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 5: I understand the system of brou We told y'all y'all side, like.

772
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: You know, fuck around and find out I'm on that side.

773
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: But then I'm also on the side of It starts

774
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: with the people. It starts with one group.

775
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: Of people, then it hits another group of yep, hits

776
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: another group of people.

777
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 4: But the hard part, I think the hard part for

778
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: black people is we're constantly brought in to help everybody.

779
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: Then when we're asking for help or when we're sounding

780
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: the alarm, some of those same people they don't want.

781
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: To jump and I struggle with us, I'm saying.

782
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: So it's one of the things where I understand how

783
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: black people was Like, all right, Latino brothers and sisters,

784
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 4: we stand up for y'all all the time. Y'all ain't

785
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: want to stand tall for us, so hey.

786
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: We're just gonna yeah, you told us what it was.

787
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: But and the same thing with the Asian community sometimes,

788
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: same thing with the Arabic community. I think black just

789
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: being honest. I think Black people are just tired or

790
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: you got to fake. We with George Floyd, We with

791
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: riots of police brutality, like tons of those joints, tons

792
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: of those joints, I mean. And and the thing is this,

793
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: that's like version three or four, because we had Detroit

794
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: Rias before that. You got the l A Rights, you

795
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: got the Civil Rights movement, you got the all the

796
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 4: riots after MLK. I think just black people have collectively

797
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: got to a place where they're just exhausted of activism

798
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 4: at the And I'm not saying and I'm not saying

799
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: that that's right. I'm not saying we should be exhausted. Yeah,

800
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: when I talk to the people that I talked to

801
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: in my community, they're like, yeah, I'm just trying to

802
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 4: get my bread.

803
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: Bro, and just exhausted.

804
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: But what you don't realize is if you run out

805
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: of steam and you get exhausted, you're not gonna be

806
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: able to get your bread, because it's gonna be the

807
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: wrong people in office, and they're going to make it

808
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: exponentially harder for you to just put your head down

809
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: and get your bread. Like we're all in this together,

810
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 4: and that's white people included, white.

811
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: People, your thing, toy.

812
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 4: What you think you think they're not.

813
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: Gonna thank you, not next yet, not gonna.

814
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: Drive the joints to the trainer park too, like I guess.

815
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: And not only that, like these people you they telling

816
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: you they're getting rid of these people so you can

817
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: have these jobs. First of all, you don't want these jobs,

818
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: and they still not gonna give them to you because

819
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: you would charge too much.

820
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: So they're gonna put it, gonna build tech, they build

821
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: a robots to do it.

822
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: These are not for you, right, so number one, and

823
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: and then lastly, like I to your point, like my

824
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: thing was, like you have to remember your oppressor. Don't

825
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: see y'all any different. You're all the same to your

826
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: pressor like black, Latino, Asian, Arab, you're all the same

827
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: to them. So like it's only us that sees the difference.

828
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: They don't see no difference. Y'all are in the way

829
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: of the bread. So like to me, it's like I

830
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: need to take this serious because like I said, they're

831
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: not They're not making a distinction between us. So that's

832
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: that's that's that's very But like I think, yeah, that

833
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: deep exhaustion resonated to me. I felt like this is

834
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: me personally, is like we don't need to collectively lead this, yeah,

835
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but we we better be outside with y'all,

836
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: like in the same way that like during the George

837
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: Floyd thing. To me, I was like, let us lead this,

838
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But I want to be

839
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: able to look behind me on the second row and

840
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: see y'all back there. You know what I'm saying, to

841
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: know that you understand that this affects you too, you

842
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: feel me, So like that sort of like solidarity, I.

843
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: Think is is beautiful.

844
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: I think again, like being again a you know, coming

845
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: up under the Fred Hampton of it all, like Palestine

846
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: was always a part of the Black Panther discussion too.

847
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: It's like as they go as out we go, like

848
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: we're absolutely we're experiencing the same thing, you know. So

849
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: I think that, Yeah, I think that I think that

850
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: that's a good point though, is like sometimes the truth

851
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: is I'm.

852
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 4: Tired, That's what I'm saying. And here's the thing. I

853
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: get tired. Here's what I don't and I condemn and

854
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all are wrong for this, Like it's terrible

855
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 4: to make videos making fun of people's plight and saying

856
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: I have the energy to help, but I'm not gonna

857
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: help because I want to let y'all suffer, but I don't.

858
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: That's the thing that I'm like, come on, man, Like

859
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: if you just like man, I ain't going to the rallies,

860
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: I ain't going to the marches, that's cool. But if

861
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 4: you're getting it online making videos about man, I ain't

862
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: got time to worry about guys. I ain't got to

863
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: you are op?

864
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 3: That's yeah, Yeah, that's behavior.

865
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's not like, Man, I'm tired. Man, I

866
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 4: can't do another one of these. I'm just getting my money.

867
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 4: That is, I want to I want to be commended

868
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: by oppression, like becoming an oppressor in a different way

869
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: like that. To me, that's what made me pissed, Like

870
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: Ice Ray and then we're doing black people doing content

871
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: around Ice Rays cracking jokes about hispanics.

872
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, that's our behavior. That's the best way

873
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: to say behavior.

874
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 4: Game.

875
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

876
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: Behavior.

877
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good way to put it, all right.

878
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: So the last one would be about Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia

879
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: Eagles superstar, incredible quarterback. Is good to see another black quarterback.

880
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 1: A few things about him in spart especially about getting

881
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: them money, is that, like it's widely known that, like,

882
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: after having a two hundred and fifty five million dollar contract,

883
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: a man lives in a house for two k a month,

884
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: which is like love it, yes, double claps standing ovation.

885
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: And it was also rumored that he turned down an

886
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: either ten million or twelve million dollar investment for some

887
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: luxury homes in Philly because it was going to displace

888
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of like low income families that he was like,

889
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: not all money is good money. Now there's an asterisk

890
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: next to this because the only source I've been able

891
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: to find was like social media was like Facebook and

892
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: a few the Internet barbershop, the Internet barbershop, and a

893
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: few black enterprise accounts.

894
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying now, So I cannot verify

895
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 3: that this happened.

896
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I've been trying all morning to try to verify this,

897
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: but I've been hearing this story for a while. Uh,

898
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: if it's true, I'm like, we need more brothers like this.

899
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: You say what you said, right, if it's not true?

900
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: How come black people be falling from false information so easily.

901
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: Because they be true?

902
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: Because that's why we fall for conspiracies.

903
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: Bro, sometimes it be true. We just can't. You just

904
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: can't fall for all of them though, Like that's the

905
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 4: that's the problem. Sometimes you can't. You will fall for

906
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 4: all of them. Like it's like, bro, you can't fall

907
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: for all the conspiracy.

908
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: I feel like.

909
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: So the thing is like I feel like it's like

910
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: people say that niggas don't read.

911
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 3: Niggas read. Niggas read a lot.

912
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: It's just I don't think niggas know how to cross reference.

913
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Like that's the issue.

914
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: Is like a nigga come out of jail and be like, yo,

915
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't read all seventeen of these books, but without

916
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: ever like going okay, since you didn't have to write

917
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: argumentative essays in high school, you, since you didn't go

918
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: to college to be able to be like, well, let

919
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: me check this source, Let me find consenting voices. Let

920
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: me look to see who else is saying this. Is

921
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: this information verified? Where is this all they're from? What

922
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: are they doing you know what I'm saying. I just

923
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: think like a lot of times that sort of like

924
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: media literacy. What I find is like a lot of

925
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: times was missing from our culture. So niggas are like, no,

926
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: I understand exactly what this book said, but I'll be

927
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: like my nigga, like who wrote it?

928
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: Like who is this person? Like yo' saying like why.

929
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 4: The source of it? Yeah?

930
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 3: Where are you getting this from?

931
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah? Where's their context behind their thoughts? Because some stuff

932
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: sounds just oh they wrote it, it sounds very scientific.

933
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: Butt's Oh, then you find out that this guy believed

934
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 4: that black people or monkeys, So it's like.

935
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: Yes, that we came from another Yeah, we came from

936
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: another planet. And then white people were just there are science, experience, experience.

937
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 4: Maybe we might need to scrutinize.

938
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: This nigga come out of jail and argue you with

939
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: numbers and physics about how the Earth is flat, because

940
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: all this nigga did in jail was read and it's

941
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: like I'd be I'll be exhausted because he's still like

942
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: gang ganging on you.

943
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: No, gang listen, You're like, my nigga.

944
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: You don't let that, you don't let that white school

945
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: tell you what information is.

946
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 4: And see, that's why I was gonna say that, right

947
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: there is the reason why conspiracy we fall into it,

948
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 4: and it's because that the institutions that are supposed to

949
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 4: be benign are actually malignant. Yeah, they're constant programming us.

950
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 4: So I always say this, the ven diagram of country,

951
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: white people and hood niggas is not Yeah, it's the same.

952
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: It's just the ones that's.

953
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: Racist the opposite.

954
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: It's out. Everything else is the same because because we

955
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: all are dealing with some of the same exact issues,

956
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: and most of it is the programming from elites who

957
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 4: actually have the information, but they take it, it's stew

958
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: it in a way that's trustworthy. So then when that

959
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: information is finally comes to light, when you see the

960
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 4: full picture, you like, see, I knew y'all was lying.

961
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 4: I knew something was off about that. You know what

962
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Now, Now we out here and they're saying

963
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: the comment coming in November is that's about to take

964
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 4: over everything, NBA, young boy, Because that's the thing I

965
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: love about black people, bro. I don't care if it's

966
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 4: the end of the world, bro, Like, we're all gonna crack.

967
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: A joke we're gonna crack a joke.

968
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

969
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 4: I saw a video of this old spaceship. They took

970
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 4: a clip from Independence Day and they had audio of

971
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 4: like rid wave in the background. We're the speakers going

972
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: crazy laugh. It was like this one. It's like this,

973
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: what the alien is gonna be with us?

974
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 3: Oh Lord, We're gonna be like, oh ship.

975
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: Oh the aliens are are seven foot tall and dark skinned.

976
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: So now all the black women is like, oh work,

977
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 4: you've been looking for you content at the concept of

978
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 4: just that. I'm like, you know what, We're gonna laugh, laugh,

979
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna laugh. Conspiracy theory, that's what we're gonna don't

980
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: believe one, that's what it's gonna be.

981
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 3: Oh man, man, Derek, thank you for your time.

982
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: Please plug whatever you need to plug right now and

983
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: tell everybody what's going on with you.

984
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: I'm dropping a new album September nineteenth called Vigilante. Definitely

985
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 4: go pre saved. The link is in the bio, but

986
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 4: y'all already knew that that's the only place they let

987
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 4: us put links anyway, And uh yeah, that's it. That's

988
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 4: all I got got new music. We I mastered that

989
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 4: prop album, so if it sounds bad.

990
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, but yo, no, I can't thank you enough.

991
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: Probably all of the Terrorform stuff Derek mixed and mastered.

992
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: You know this new project, Derek uh mastered it. Man

993
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: so him and Matt you know Matt how Souski killing

994
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: the beat. Saucy Who's made all the music on this

995
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: episode is it's a diffredible dude, yeah man so yeah,

996
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: So thank you for your time. You know you stepped

997
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: away from the grill. You're gonna get back on that grill.

998
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 4: I wish I was.

999
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: There because listen, Derek, Derek turned into your uncle, your

1000
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: uncle pleats man.

1001
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 3: He got leather sandals.

1002
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 4: When you get on that grill, boyd. All right, y'all uslug.

1003
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.

1004
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: You better listen to these credits. I need you to

1005
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay,

1006
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Speaker 1: so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded

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Speaker 1: Check out his website Mattosofski dot com.

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Speaker 3: I'm a spell it for you because I know m

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Speaker 3: A T.

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Speaker 1: T O s O W s Ki dot com Matthawsowski

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Speaker 1: dot com. He got more music and stuff like that

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Speaker 1: on there, so gonna check out. The heat Politics is

1019
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Speaker 1: a member of cool Zone Media, executive produced by Sophie Lichterman,

1020
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Speaker 1: part of the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your theme music and

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Speaker 1: scoring is also by the one and nobly Mattawsowski. Still

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Speaker 1: killing the beat softly, So listen, don't let nobody lie

1023
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Speaker 1: to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics.

1024
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Speaker 1: These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all

1025
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Speaker 1: next week.