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Speaker 1: Oh time watch Steve plasterers do time. Well, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Here we go again, John Murphy, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: and Snowy Orchard partner yard. It is one goes live

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Speaker 1: from one bills Dride. We're right next door to new

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Speaker 1: air of field. And if you're watching on the MSG feed,

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Speaker 1: you see what we got just a little bit of snow.

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Speaker 1: Um you can. It's not two feet by the way

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Speaker 1: as was forecast. You can two inches. You can kind

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Speaker 1: kind of see the numbers on one side of the

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Speaker 1: field and maybe the charging buffalo in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field a little bit. But it's covered in snow,

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Speaker 1: covered in sun. Impressive nowhere near the forecast right where.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you see the forecast the other days? The kids

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Speaker 1: and the kids weren't even excited this morning when you

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Speaker 1: no chipper schools for snow day. No chance, no chance,

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Speaker 1: which is fine. We couldn't sleep last night. Now it's

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Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, Murph. A forecasted snowfall big enough

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Speaker 1: Then you get up, haven't slept well and got to

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Speaker 1: go to school because it didn't snow. Worst case scenario ever, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: worst case scenario for all the moms and dads. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not much. Unimpressive snow totals here, no, no, but all.

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Speaker 1: Like we talked about yesterday, all the coaches coaching slots

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Speaker 1: are falling. Adam Gay stays in the AFC East. He's

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Speaker 1: going to be the coach of the Dolphins. I want

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Speaker 1: to build. How Bills fans feel about that? Well, let's

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Speaker 1: ask hey, Bills fans, how do you feel about Adam

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Speaker 1: Gaze being coach at the doy I know how I feel.

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Speaker 1: Steve not speaking about impressive. Not impressed with that at all.

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Speaker 1: For a variety of reasons, Gays, I thought the last

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Speaker 1: get that, but um, you know, decided this past year

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Speaker 1: let go his best players and not never to do that,

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Speaker 1: and the culture changed. I guess, and he did not survive,

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Speaker 1: As you said, I I don't know. He's got the

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Speaker 1: reputation of being a quarterback guy, which is why some

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Speaker 1: people put him together down there with Sam darn Old

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Speaker 1: and say, well, good, now Darnold will have his quarterback guru. Really,

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Speaker 1: where is Adam Gays quarterback expert? See? Somebody tell me

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Speaker 1: who did he work with? Was it Ryan Tannehill? Does

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Speaker 1: he have a shining example in Ryan Tannehill? Was it

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Speaker 1: Jake Cutler with the Miami Dolphins? Was it perhaps going

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Speaker 1: all the way back to Peyton Manning with the Broncos. Look,

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Speaker 1: by the time Peyton Manning got to the Broncos, he

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Speaker 1: was a fully formed NFL quarterback. There was nothing that

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Speaker 1: Adam Gays or any other coach could do to make

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Speaker 1: him better or to improve by him. Peyton Manning was

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Speaker 1: his own quarterback coach and his own offensive coordinator. How

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Speaker 1: does Adam Gays get credit for that? Look, I'm happy

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Speaker 1: the guy's employed. I'm happy he works for the Jets

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Speaker 1: because I think they'll be spinning the wheels with this guy.

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Speaker 1: To me, Adam Gay, Steve, now you got me going.

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Speaker 1: Adam Gays is a guy who stares at his call

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Speaker 1: There's a role for that, and maybe the head coach

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Speaker 1: I don't I think. I don't think he has anything

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Speaker 1: is how we play. It's all about what's the right

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Speaker 1: nowhere near the sum total of what NFL coaching is there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me get that out, Steve, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: well done, well done, top notch Okay, you're right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: The guys. The guy who is being hired in Arizona

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Speaker 1: is the same story. Cliff Kingsbury, who has been and

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Speaker 1: And then they're holding their head coach who had the

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Speaker 1: it's a quarterback driven league, Murph, you gotta have a

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Speaker 1: a dysfunctional front office and trying to find another the

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Speaker 1: the next best thing. Who of a guy who can quarterback? Whisper?

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, who wrote the book Quarterback Whisper is rehired

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Speaker 1: defensive hiring there's still two coaching vacancies open, right, one

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Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchen stays on with Cleveland, he is one of them.

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals did with Cliff Kingsbury, right. The Jets interviewed him.

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury is friends with Sean McVeagh. He's friends well Okay,

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Speaker 1: his friends are. Sean mcvay's agent was quoted as saying,

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Speaker 1: that's the law. So McVay had success with the Rams

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Speaker 1: the Unbeaten, the Undefeated, and he wrote a piece two

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Speaker 1: years ago you want a great head coach or NFL team,

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Speaker 1: ditch the coaching merrick around and look for an Ufield CEO.

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Speaker 1: It still resonates with me. Two years later. We had

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Speaker 1: and I think Dominique Foxworth has given this some thought

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Speaker 1: We'll talk with Dominique Foxworth today. He's coming on the

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Speaker 1: show with us today at one o'clock. He is not

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Speaker 1: Adam Gase said, okay, I'll let you do it your way.

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Speaker 1: make it your way. In Denver they did the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak to run my offense because he'll be able

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. But if you think they accomplished something,

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Speaker 1: what do you think it was? What was their biggest accomplishment?

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Speaker 1: That's our Twitter question. You can vote on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. You can. We'd love it if you

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Speaker 1: call us up and explain what you think. Eight oh

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Speaker 1: up for about twenty five minutes. I don't know from

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Speaker 1: you what was the Bill's biggest accomplishment in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: We offer a couple of choices. Sixty four percent of

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Speaker 1: you say they drafted and then started to develop their

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, their potential franchise quarterback. Almost two thirds of

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Speaker 1: you say that's number one accomplishment. Twenty eight percent of

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Speaker 1: you say they bit the bullet on the salary cap

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Speaker 1: and they had to, right, they had to, and they

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Speaker 1: almost a third of you say they bit the bullet,

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Speaker 1: spent what they could and kind of saved for a

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Speaker 1: rainy day on the salary cap. Two percent of you,

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Speaker 1: that's all. I think that's a little low. But only

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Speaker 1: two percent cite the improvement on defense to go from

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Speaker 1: twenty six overall in the NFL to top ten is

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Speaker 1: Steve called about a year ago, up to number two

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Speaker 1: overall in the NFL. That's a pretty good accomplishment for

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Speaker 1: one year. I would think more than two percent than

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Speaker 1: think that's the biggest accomplishment. And six percent, and this

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Speaker 1: is fair if you believe this, six percent say the

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Speaker 1: Bills didn't accomplish much in twenty eighteen. They only won

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Speaker 1: six games. What do you think? What was the bills

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Speaker 1: biggest accomplishment in twenty eighteen? We got phone lines open

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty toll free from

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Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Or you can do it on Twitter and vote on

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll sending your tweets. We will read some

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Speaker 1: of them on the air. Here. We got Dominique Foxworth

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Speaker 1: from ESPN coming up at one o'clock to talk about

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Speaker 1: coaching changes. The Moose Darryl Johnston, western New York native,

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Speaker 1: one of the favorites of our show, Fox CBS, CBS,

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Speaker 1: Fox TV analyst on the NFL games, is also the

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Speaker 1: new general manager of the Alliance of American Football team

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Speaker 1: in San Antonio, the San Antonio Commanders. We'll talk without

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Speaker 1: Darrel Moose Johnson about that coming up at two o'clock today,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get a view from him on his team,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and their approach to the game against the

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Speaker 1: Rams coming up. But let's talk about the Bills in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. What was their biggest accomplishment in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with us first, Steve, I'll start, yeah, drafting

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Speaker 1: way back in April, and then taking big steps forward

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Speaker 1: and developing the rookie quarterback. I think it's pretty obvious

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Speaker 1: that was and is the Bill's biggest accomplishment in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Identifying what appears to be a bonified candidate for a

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback not easy. It's a task that has evaded

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Speaker 1: this team for a decade and a half or longer.

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Speaker 1: But it appears that Josh Allen has the wherewithal to

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Speaker 1: be the franchise quarterback they've been looking for for a

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Speaker 1: long time since Jim Kelly required and then he gets

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Speaker 1: in here, very raw, very talented, but very raw. He

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Speaker 1: comes in here, plays the first couple of games and

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Speaker 1: has ups and downs, mostly downs, and then returns after

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Speaker 1: his four weeks out with the elbow injury and gets

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Speaker 1: better on an almost weekly basis and shows pretty constant development.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's the number one accomplishment of the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen Buffalo Bills. I like what they did on defense.

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Speaker 1: I think that's significant to go from twenty six to two.

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Speaker 1: You saw it coming, You said they were gonna be

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Speaker 1: a top ten I didn't see that you saw it coming.

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Speaker 1: Like the fact that they have, you know, taken their

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Speaker 1: lumps with the salary capt this year and not been

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Speaker 1: able to spend a lot of money. I do think

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Speaker 1: there there was a lot of accomplished in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: for the Bills, But developing and directing the quarterback I

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Speaker 1: would put at the top of that list. What about you?

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Speaker 1: For me, it's I'm in the minority. I think it's

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Speaker 1: improving the defense, and one of the reasons is this

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Speaker 1: Now they got they got hamstrung on their offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the football this year is as we all know,

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Speaker 1: they had a couple of really quality players go away

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Speaker 1: without being able to prepare for it. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: They knew they had to get better defensively, and they

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Speaker 1: knew they could they put their minds to it. They

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Speaker 1: signed a couple of key free agents in starlotu Lele

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Speaker 1: Trent Murphy. They filled the gaps in the back end.

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Speaker 1: They found Taryn Johnson, they found some guys who could

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Speaker 1: play in the secondary with the three guys they already

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Speaker 1: had that were playing at an epic level. That the

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Speaker 1: effort and Tremaine Edmonds, mcmillano, all these guys that they

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Speaker 1: found and built on that side of the football while

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Speaker 1: they were kind of conjuring up the way to find

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Speaker 1: their quarterback, and it worked out that. I believe like

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Speaker 1: you do, that Josh Allen is the guy going forward.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a great quarterback, and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the I think it's nice to think about.

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Speaker 1: He could be the quarterback for this team for the

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Speaker 1: next ten years. That's how good I think he's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna be. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be Tom Brady or like

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I mean, you don't know whether he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in that spectrum. But I think he's he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the guy, right, He's gonna be the guy. So

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Speaker 1: they've got that taken care of. But I think here's why.

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Speaker 1: For me, players come and me more than anybody knows

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be a player. Players come and go.

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Speaker 1: The team has got to sustain when players come and go.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that when this front office and this

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Speaker 1: coaching staff put their mind to it, they picked some

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Speaker 1: really good players. And they didn't hit on a lot

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Speaker 1: of old guys, but they hit on a lot of

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Speaker 1: key guys. They have the ability to see guys and

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Speaker 1: pick the right guys. Josh Tremaine, Matt Milano, guys like that.

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Speaker 1: So I think here's the thing, the greatest accomplishment. When

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Speaker 1: they put their mind to it, they fixed the other

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Speaker 1: side of the football and did it in a big hurry.

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Speaker 1: When they turn their sights and try and fix the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball, I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do that as well. And I think by

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Speaker 1: showing that they could put together with whatever resources they had,

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Speaker 1: the guys to fix that side of the ball. I

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Speaker 1: think when they turn their sights on the offensive side,

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Speaker 1: with the cap money, with the draft picks, they're going

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Speaker 1: to be able to fix a lot of the holes

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Speaker 1: they have this year and bolster the other strengths that

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Speaker 1: they already have. I mean, they're gonna have to find

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Speaker 1: they gotta you know, they need an edge pass rusher

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Speaker 1: if in a perfect world they need a three or

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Speaker 1: four offensive lineman for both starting and depth. They need

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Speaker 1: some skill guys on the outside. And now they have

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Speaker 1: the tools to do it. But by fixing the defense

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Speaker 1: in the last twelve months or last fourteen months, they've

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Speaker 1: proven that when they when they look out for guys,

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Speaker 1: when they're looking for talent, they can find it. And

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Speaker 1: now they've got the resources to do it. And I

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Speaker 1: think by showing that by fixing the defense, it sets

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Speaker 1: them up, sets me up for some confidence that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it when they now that

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Speaker 1: they have the assets to do it. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear from our listeners, what do you think the Bill's

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Speaker 1: biggest accomplishment in the twenty eighteen season was drafting developing

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Was it improving the defense? Perhaps? Was it

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Speaker 1: biting the bullet on the salary cap. Maybe you have

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Speaker 1: something else in mine. Maybe I don't think they have

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Speaker 1: any significant accomplishments. Let us know, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: of good responses on the tweet sheet, and we got

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Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls. Teaed up. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to those in a moment. We're gonna take our break first, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I do want to mention this and this sad news

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Speaker 1: came across the desk today. Norm Pollam, who was one

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Speaker 1: of the all times scouts in Buffalo Bill's history, passed

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Speaker 1: away at his home in Palm Desert, California, on Monday

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Speaker 1: of this week. He was ninety three years old. Really

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Speaker 1: a super scout. He came here with Chuck Knox in

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Speaker 1: the late seventies, stayed on through about ten or twelve years,

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Speaker 1: became a national scout for the Bills. A guy whose

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Speaker 1: name you would always hear when people talked about the

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Speaker 1: architects of the Super Bowl team that you played on.

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Speaker 1: You get what a one year coinciding with him and

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Speaker 1: tells of year, want to put it in a context.

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Speaker 1: He was here when Bill Pollyan got here. He was

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Speaker 1: here and rose through the organization and then he was replaced,

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Speaker 1: and well, he wasn't replaced. He stepped a little bit

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Speaker 1: took over for him under Bill Pollian and that's where

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Speaker 1: John Butler became the assistant GM and then ultimately took

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Speaker 1: over for Bill when he came over. But that was

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Speaker 1: Norm Pollam was in that kind of foundational building block

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Speaker 1: of the early to mid eighties when they started putting

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Speaker 1: it together, and he stayed with the team after that.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Knox brought him on when Chuck Knox came here

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Speaker 1: from the Rams nineteen seventy eight, and the two of them,

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Speaker 1: and I give Pollum most of the credit assembled really

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Speaker 1: one of the great scouting staffs in the NFL at

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Speaker 1: the time. Chink Single, who was a great veteran scout,

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Speaker 1: Bob Bryan, Dave Smith, A J. Smith came under Norm Pollam.

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Speaker 1: He was really a great NFL talent evaluator and a

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Speaker 1: great guy to a really good guy. He went around

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Speaker 1: the team for a long time credited. He was here

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Speaker 1: when the Bills drafted Hall of famers like Jim Kelley,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Smith, Andre Reid, other great players, Daryl Talley, Jim Richard,

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Speaker 1: will Wolf or Jim Haslet, Fred Smerless, Joe Cribbs. Those

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Speaker 1: were Norm Pollam draft picks. I mean, the guy could

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Speaker 1: do it. He was good. They the thing they said

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Speaker 1: about him, and you read, you know, his bio and

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Speaker 1: things that he'd watch a guy for a few he

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Speaker 1: could tell you whether he could play or not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that's it. Not doesn't mean he would

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Speaker 1: fit into your team or was a you know, as

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Speaker 1: a guy the top guy you wanted, but he knew

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Speaker 1: by looking at a guy and watching him, said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that guy's NFL quality. You can get him and he'll play.

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Speaker 1: I just had a flashback. I had a great I

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Speaker 1: mean Norm Pollam would always talk great Tucker watching the

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Speaker 1: Bill's Friday practice once. He used to do this back

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Speaker 1: in the eighties. And Norman Pollam had just come back

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Speaker 1: from a West Coast trip and he said to me, John,

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Speaker 1: I just saw the greatest line And Norm Pollam was

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Speaker 1: a veteran back then, this had to be early mid eighties.

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Speaker 1: I just saw the greatest linebacker I've ever seen scouted.

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Speaker 1: I said, really, who's that and he goes the guy's

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Speaker 1: name is Junior, say out, but I'm telling you he

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Speaker 1: is great, and this say I was still a see

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Speaker 1: yeah and not a senior, right. Norm Pollam was on

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Speaker 1: him as a sophomore friend or a junior out at USC.

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Speaker 1: He told me Junior Sale was the greatest linebacker we

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Speaker 1: ever saw. Anyway, he'll be messed. A great guy passed

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Speaker 1: away in California earlier this week, ninety three years old.

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Speaker 1: We send our condolences to his wife, Bonnie, and all

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Speaker 1: of his friends, a million friends. Norman Pollam was was

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Speaker 1: really a special guy in a tremendous scout and helped

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Speaker 1: build the Super Bowl teams that you were a part of. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take a break. We're coming back.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the phones. We'll get to your

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Speaker 1: tweets about the Buffalo Bills, about the Bills and what

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Speaker 1: they accomplished in twenty eighteen. What do you think was

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Speaker 1: the biggest accomplishment of the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back to talk about that when we return. One

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio, Welcome Back, One Goes

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Speaker 1: Live from One Goes Drive, John Murphy Ce Tasker in

641
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Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio on a snowy day in Orchard Park.

642
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Speaker 1: We can't get two feet. We didn't get two inches.

643
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get the forecasts on it. You

644
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Speaker 1: know what. I don't. I'm not saying they're wrong, but

645
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Speaker 1: you know what, they're not right very often. Maybe, I

646
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Speaker 1: don't know. Do you know anybody down south? They here

647
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Speaker 1: five outs south and there they're two feet. It must

648
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Speaker 1: be a lot, must be a lot harder than they're

649
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Speaker 1: making it look. Yeah. Yeah, don't stand up there all

650
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Speaker 1: smiley face and tell me you know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: You don't, Mike snow folks. That would be if I

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Speaker 1: were a weather forecaster. That's what I would say. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna snow at some point in the next month and

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Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, there you go. Hey, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: What was the biggest thing the Bills accomplished in twenty eighteen?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call, let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: Eight h three zero five fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You'd like to

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Speaker 1: discuss that? Jay on the line from Buffalo. Hello, Jay,

660
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Hey guys, how you doing very good? Um?

661
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Speaker 1: I really wanted to talk about the stadium and the

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00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: and the and the pole. Um yeah, I never saw

663
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: the pole, so I'm not qualified, but you can discuss it.

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Speaker 1: Never saw the Paul didn't see any of the questions.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't aware of it. I'm a seat and ticket older.

666
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: Didn't you get a questionnaire? But go ahead, we're your guys.

667
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jay. I saw it on like on Channel

668
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Speaker 1: two they had it and then they had to post

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Speaker 1: the other places too. I mean I didn't It wasn't

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Speaker 1: even then. I participated, but I certainly have an opinion.

671
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Speaker 1: And I mean I guess just bare Whitney and hear

672
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Speaker 1: me out. I mean, here's where we are looking. I mean,

673
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Speaker 1: I'm forty three years old. I've been following this team

674
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Speaker 1: since I was seven six, seven, eight years old. We

675
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Speaker 1: all enjoy going to the games. We all enjoy the

676
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Speaker 1: tailgating experience. At the end of the day, I'm forty three.

677
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: People get older. You want to see the game. I

678
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: want to bring my kids to the game. And I

679
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: know people are people are afraid that if if the

680
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: stadium were to move downtown or We're for the moves

681
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: wherever the case may be that we would lose that experience.

682
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Speaker 1: But guess what two thy and nineteen I think I

683
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: think the NFL is trying to get away from people

684
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: jumping on tables, setting things on fire, and squirting grown

685
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: men with catchup and mustard. Yeah, that doesn't go on everywhere.

686
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: I got to warn you, Jay, that's a Buffalo thing.

687
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: But go ahead, I know, and I get it up.

688
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Speaker 1: Been to other stadiums too. My thing is this, I

689
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: think that Pagoulas are way too smart business people to

690
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Speaker 1: miss out on an opportunity to put the stadium in

691
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Speaker 1: downtown Buffalo with all this other development that's taking place

692
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Speaker 1: right now, it really would be such a missed opportunity,

693
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: and it's really where it should have been to begin with. Now,

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Speaker 1: with that being said, what sense does it make to

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Speaker 1: six seventy five sixty seventy five percent of what you

696
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Speaker 1: would spend on a new build then to put that

697
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Speaker 1: into into new air field on something that the bones

698
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: are still going to be forty fifty sixty years old

699
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: as we continue to move forward. To me, that doesn't

700
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: make any sense. It really doesn't. And this idea that

701
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Speaker 1: well if they move downtown, what would you do with

702
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: the stadium in Orchard Park? Well, guess what, that's one

703
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: bill's drive. It's not going anywhere. You continue to practice there.

704
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Speaker 1: You could type half of it off and we could

705
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: play their games there and put their logos up in

706
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: the three hundred levels and whatever the case may be

707
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Speaker 1: on game day. Now you've got thirty five forty thousand

708
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Speaker 1: seats for their games as they continue to grow and

709
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: evolved their program. And guess what, you can have training

710
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: camp there. You know, it just doesn't it just doesn't

711
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: need to be as complicated as everyone is making it

712
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: out to be. And I think this idea that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna miss out in the tailgating experience and oh, the

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00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: ticket prices are gonna go up, Well, guess what, We've

715
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Speaker 1: had the luxury of having the cheapest ticket prices forever.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty nineteen. Let's move forward. If the ticket prices

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Speaker 1: are going to go out, and so be it all right?

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Speaker 1: You know what, Jay, I did not see the questionnaire,

719
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Speaker 1: don't know much about it, was not informed of anything

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Speaker 1: about it. So I'm probably not the right guy that

721
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Speaker 1: in comment on this. I have feelings about New stadium

722
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: and renovating this place here, But they have nothing to

723
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Speaker 1: do with that questionnaire, Steve your thoughts. I know that

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Speaker 1: everybody's been, uh, you know, wondering what's gonna happen with

725
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: the stadium, and I know that the team, I guess,

726
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: put it out there to say, you know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna renovate this one or are you gonna build

728
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Speaker 1: a new one? And where's it gonna be? And and

729
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of obviously, a lot of questions that's

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Speaker 1: surrounded I'm not as informed as anybody. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: more informed as right, I mean, on this particular questionnaire

732
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Speaker 1: thoughts about I heard the guys talking about it on

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Speaker 1: the way in this morning. But the simple fact of

734
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Speaker 1: the matter is they're gonna do what's best for the team,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna get as much help from the government

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Speaker 1: as they can get. And if they move it, it

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Speaker 1: means and I don't remove and I've heard this. I

738
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Speaker 1: wasn't here obviously when this happened, and a lot of

739
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Speaker 1: our listeners were when they opened up rich Stadium as

740
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: it was back then, when they opened up the stadium

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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park back in seventy two. It was a

742
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Speaker 1: nightmare for traffic, and the way they got it in

743
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: it took them forever. It took them a long while

744
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Speaker 1: to get it right. Right, okay, right, first think about

745
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Speaker 1: and I think about it now. Now it's it's gold.

746
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Speaker 1: I mean, you come in. You got the They got

747
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Speaker 1: the wide and twenty eight to get to the two nineteen.

748
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Speaker 1: They got Southwestern Boulevard, they got Abbott Road, they got

749
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Speaker 1: all all this stuff. We're out five coming up, So

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Speaker 1: everybody kind of knows their way in and out of

751
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Speaker 1: the stadium, plus the in the parking and the tail

752
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: getting experiences something that we all know and love, jumping

753
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: on flaming tables and supporting each other with ketchup. Hey,

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00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: that's that's our thing. Fine, No, it's not. Listen, how

755
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: does matter? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's a

756
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: bad luck jumping on flaming tables. I don't care. I

757
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: don't let people think what they want about us. It's

758
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: our stadium, it's our team, and it's our tailgate party.

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00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: You can stay at home anyway, no way, what ell

760
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: that's not I don't I don't be that as. It

761
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The point is this when wherever this stadium is,

762
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: your team's gonna be playing in it. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a new experience. It's gonna be a whole new generation

764
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: of people that are going to grow up with this

765
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: new stadium. And let me tell you this, I know

766
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Speaker 1: a lot of people enjoy going to the going to

767
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: a new air field. It's nice. And if you spend

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00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: a lot of money and you get into the clubs

769
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Speaker 1: and all that, it's all you've got, all the amenities

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Speaker 1: and all this. If they put a dome stadium downtown

771
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Speaker 1: or wherever, wherever it is, whatever the new stadium looks like,

772
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it because they're

773
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: gonna build it, so you love it. You're gonna it's

774
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: gonna be comfortable. It's gonna be if it's indoors, it's

775
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: going to be climate control. It's gonna change everything. It's

776
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be different, no question about it. But

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Speaker 1: don't think he won't love it just because it is different.

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Speaker 1: It may be better in a lot of respects. So

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do it right. Whatever it takes, whatever it would,

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00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: however long it takes, wherever they put it, eventually, and

781
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: of course eventually is the transition is going to be

782
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: a hard part about it. Wherever it's gonna go, you're

783
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: gonna love it because your team's gonna be playing in it,

784
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna be sitting there with a bunch of

785
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: fans of our your team, and it's gonna be a

786
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Speaker 1: whole generation of people who grow up in that stadium.

787
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Speaker 1: It's going to be their thing. So just like this

788
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Speaker 1: one was, so they not love the cost of it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where most people are gonna get

790
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: a hung up. And there is despite what the earlier

791
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Speaker 1: caller Jay said, there will be a significant difference in

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Speaker 1: cost between renovating what's here and building a new one downtown,

793
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: and that would be you know, it might even be prohibitive.

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00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: The cost might literally be prohibitive, like we can't afford

795
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Speaker 1: to build a new one, or more importantly, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to dedicate that amount of resource and by we,

797
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean taxpayers and people who live here and people

798
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: live in New York State. We do not want to

799
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Speaker 1: dedicate that amount of resources to build a new stadium.

800
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: Let's take a smaller bite and fix what's up, what's

801
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: already up, here and make this into a good place.

802
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: I think this is already a pretty good place to play.

803
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: It's definitely fallen behind in terms of some of the amenities.

804
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: But you know a lot of this too, Stevens. It's

805
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: a bigger question than what do we want. It's kind

806
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: of like what is required in the NFL these days,

807
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: and a lot of people think. We've had a couple

808
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: of people hint at it at this show. On this show,

809
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: the NFL is becoming more of a studio sport. The

810
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: stadiums aren't as important. The Los Angeles Chargers playing a

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Speaker 1: thirty five thousand seat soccer stadium. They're going to move

812
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: to a new stadium in a year or two. But

813
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: you can get by without a palace like they have

814
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: in Dallas and Minneapolis. I think you can get by,

815
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Speaker 1: And if you don't have the money to build a palace,

816
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: go ahead and get by with what you have. I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I guess what I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: I'm not committed to building a new stadium. There's obviously

819
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: some people out here who believe it, and we're talking

820
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: about the stadium thing, but I don't know that there's

821
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: obviously got to be a percentage of the the people who

822
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: hate where the stadium is now. They don't like it

823
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park, they don't like it. Away from the city,

824
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: they don't like it in the south towns, they don't

825
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Speaker 1: like I don't know, but because it's been here for

826
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: so long, that's kind of a minority. Now you're kind

827
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: of used to it. It's kind of like, oh, we're

828
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: going to the stadium. You know where it is. You know,

829
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: you've had high school games here, you've had events here, concerts,

830
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: you've been in. The traffic patterns are set. And for me,

831
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what you gain by a brand new

832
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: stadium in a different location than may may or may

833
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: not be better for some people and it's worse for others.

834
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Speaker 1: But also, if it's gonna be at the end of it,

835
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Speaker 1: if it's going to be a really nice place, even

836
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: if you renovate this one, why move it. You know,

837
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: if you can make this one great, we'll make this

838
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Speaker 1: one great. You don't have to. You don't have to,

839
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, reinvent it to make it great. But you're

840
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to spend some cash, no question about it.

841
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: And it's gonna have to be really significant. Where are

842
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: you going to play in the meantime if you do

843
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: have to shut the place down and you know, a

844
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Speaker 1: total overhaul, Yeah, you know. Here's marketing towna wan to Hello. Mark,

845
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Speaker 1: you're on the air, guys, thank you very much for

846
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Speaker 1: taking my Callum Steve. First of all, I want to

847
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: say that you are my favorite Bill. I'm in my

848
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: early fifties, I've been watching for quite some time, and

849
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Speaker 1: you have earned a gold jacket. You deserve a place

850
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Famer. Wait right away, please, I

851
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks, thank you, Thank you for everything you've

852
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: done for the area as well. A point or two

853
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: about the stadium, and a point or two about the

854
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: coaching changes, and then I'll hang up and listen to

855
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Speaker 1: your responses. Go ahead, Mark, what's the stadium? Is it

856
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: bottom line for the players, for the fans, or for

857
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: the corporate seatings. To me, it sounds like it's more

858
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: just for the corporate seatings, the money coming in for

859
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: that fifty to seventy thousand people show up every week,

860
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: even when they're not doing well. I'm fine with that.

861
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: As far as the coaching, please, it seems to be

862
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: as long as you have a proper vision, a proper plan,

863
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: you get the proper staff to work with. If you

864
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: got the talent on the field that can execute that plan,

865
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: that's all you need. It doesn't really matter who's got

866
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: the headset on. I don't think to a certain point.

867
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: As long as you have that proper vision and that

868
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: proper staff to help out with that, every coach eventually

869
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: gets fired. Look at Belichick, they're falling down a little

870
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: bit now. Is considered probably the best ever, maybe next

871
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: to oh I can't even think of his name now

872
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: from San Francisco. But when Seaford took over Walls che

873
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: group one like crazy your opinions on those topics, please

874
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: thank you, fellows, and I'll hang up. Yeah, you're right.

875
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: What what do you gain with the new stadium? What

876
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: are you gonna lose if you don't do anything at

877
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: all to this stadium? I don't know. De fans still

878
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: show up? Yeah, I think they do. They always have

879
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: and especially when the team wins, they show up in droves.

880
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: So what do you lose if you don't do anything

881
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: to the stadium? Okay, that's a good question, and so

882
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: why change it? Why do anything different? That's a good question,

883
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: and I don't know that I had the answer to that.

884
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: I don't have any answers about this. And because I

885
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: never saw this, the questionnaire, the survey, I'm curious. Did

886
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: the survey go out saying that we will follow the

887
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: mandate of the people on the survey. In other words,

888
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: if you say we need a new stadium, we'll get

889
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: a new stadium. I'm doubt that right. I don't know

890
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: what purpose this survey, this questionnaire, sir, Yeah, because again

891
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, wasn't aware of it until I

892
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: heard about it late yesterday. I'm curious as to what

893
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: the purpose of the survey is. Is it to provide direction?

894
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: Is it to provide an absolute mandate? Here's what we're

895
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: doing because the fans say this doubtful, but I don't know.

896
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah. And as and for the caller

897
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: mark his other question about coaching, listen, it's a symbiotic

898
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: relationship coaches. Great coaches make great players better, and they

899
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: make good coach players better. They make bad players in impassable.

900
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: You know, good players great players can win games for

901
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: bad coaches and vice versa. But if you want to

902
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: be truly great and sustain it, you've got to have both.

903
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: You've got to have both players and coaches. So you

904
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: can say these coaching changes, something's not working and the

905
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: organization becomes, for lack of a better word, the organization

906
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: becomes sick or ineffective anyway, and they changes need to

907
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: be made. And I think it's been evident in human

908
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: nature that the higher you go on the decision change,

909
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: the more change can be affected by that person that

910
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: you change out. The head coach is at the top

911
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: of the football food chain, is they're the ones that

912
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: actually have something to say about what goes on in

913
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: the field. Sometimes the general manager tries to dabble in

914
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: that and they say, hey, you should play this quarterback

915
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: or that guy or whatever. So the higher you go

916
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: in the food chain of the decision makers, the more

917
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: change you can affect. But also the longer it takes

918
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: that change to occur. The head coach seems to be able.

919
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: And we've been proven in the last few months, in

920
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: the last few years, that you change that guy out

921
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: and make it the right guy and something clicks, a

922
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: huge change could happen. And that's what all these teams

923
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: are trying to get break here. We're coming back with

924
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: the more. One goes Live from One Bill's Drive on

925
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live from One

926
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: Bill's Right, John Murphy's cheap Tasker in our One Buffalo Studio.

927
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: Our question today on Twitter has nothing to do with stadiums,

928
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: which maybe a fault of our question. It has more

929
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: to do with the twenty eighteen season. What do you

930
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: think the biggest accomplishment for the Bills in twenty eighteen

931
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: was on the tweet sheet? From Scott that's a good point,

932
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: he says, We've been trying to do this since Jim

933
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: Kelly retired. If we drafted and developed his replacement in eighteen,

934
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: and it looks pretty positive. This is the biggest accomplishment

935
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: of the decade. Go Bills. I'm inclined to agree it's big.

936
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: What happened here this year, six wins and all big.

937
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: The playing time that Josh Allen got, the decision to

938
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: draft him, to commit to him, and the playing time

939
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: that he got, the significant improvement we saw that I

940
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 1: do think is the most significant development of the the twenty

941
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: eighteen Yeah. Yeah. From Brian Greer, he says, obvious answer

942
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: would have been developing a quarterback, but technically that's still

943
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: up in the air, and for as great as Josh was,

944
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: there is room for improvement. I picked fixing the cap.

945
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Fixing the cap allows us the freedom to build around

946
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback and then we can get a true evaluation

947
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: on his talent. I think that's just off center. What

948
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: do you mean, listen, we know how talented he is.

949
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: You got to develop him. Certainly, putting putting people around

950
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: him is going to be tantamount to the thing going forward.

951
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: Uh but I don't think listen, Yeah, I just don't

952
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: think that's exactly accurate. I think they know how talented

953
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: he is. They've got to develop and put people around him.

954
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: But they found their guy. I don't think there's any

955
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: question about that. And yeah, I don't think there's any

956
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: people have questions about that. I don't think they should.

957
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: That's where that's that's where I think that's off center.

958
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: Right there. I guess all right, here we go number

959
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: from Ralph Fincher. I know, I know, I ain't got

960
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: time for that today. Somewhere Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Josh Allen. Also,

961
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: they did a nice job uncovering and developing some developing

962
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: some hidden gems. That will be salary cap friendly contributors

963
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: in the coming seasons, like Robert Foster and Levi Wallace

964
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: and that and that's so yeah, I see, that's I

965
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen is the guy going forward. And and

966
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: when I said fix the defense, that gives me confidence

967
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: and listen, this is this is what I think their

968
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: accomplishment was. It's because it affects my opinion. I got

969
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence now that they can fix things

970
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: they put their mind to fixing and have the resources

971
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: to fix. I don't know, I wasn't all that sure

972
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: about that in years past, whether if they even if

973
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know if they could pick the right guys.

974
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, they certain you know, they could pick talented guys.

975
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: They could pick Marcel Darius and Sammy Watkins and they

976
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: could pick guys like that. But you could pick Marshawn Lynch,

977
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: they could pick Willis mcgahees. They could pick guys who

978
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: were really talented, but they weren't right guys. Those guys

979
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: wanted out of here. Um. So this club, this this

980
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: group seems to me have proven to me. And that's

981
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: their accomplishment, winning my trust that they can pick the

982
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 1: right guys who want to be here, and we're gonna

983
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: play well and they can keep long term. Here's a

984
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: tweet on the tweet sheet from Anthony Domenico. Improving the

985
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: defense was the biggest accomplishment because is now they can

986
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: put more focus on the offense this year as opposed

987
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: to filling in a bunch of holes everywhere. Good point, Yeah,

988
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: the defense is better. They've narrowed the scope, yeah, of

989
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: their holes and their roster, which everybody's got. I mean,

990
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: I told you this last week. Everybody's got problems. Every

991
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: team in the NFL's got problems. Don't kid yourself, even

992
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: those like New Orleans. They'll go you go into their

993
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: staff rooms and they're telling you how this guy don't

994
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: know about, this guy don't know about We need some

995
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: help here and there. Even though they're winning all these games,

996
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: they're still guys that think, you know, we do I

997
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: wish we had a stronger All these teams have holes

998
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: to fill. And the fact that the Bills have narrowed

999
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: their scope of how many holes they have to fill,

1000
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: I think says a lot for where they're at. All. Right,

1001
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: what do you think what was the Bill's biggest biggest accomplishment?

1002
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen. Give us a call. We'll discuss Coming

1003
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: up also in the next hour, we're going to talk

1004
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: about the coaching hiring process, how it works, what's wrong

1005
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: about it, maybe what's right about it. Dominique Foxworth, longtime

1006
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: NFL cornerback who writes for The Undefeated dot Com, will

1007
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: join us with his thoughts. He's got some good ones.

1008
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: That's coming up in the next hour. One Bill's Live

1009
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

1010
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radiolo Hills Radio Network. Sports Up Date got

1011
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Drive. Nothing going on here.

1012
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: Very quiet at One Bill's Drive. The rest of the

1013
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: league busy hiring coaches. Adam Gase expected to be hired

1014
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: as the next head coach of the New York Jets,

1015
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: the former Dolphins coach. When former Cleveland Brown's interim head

1016
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: coach Greg Williams under consideration to be the Jets defensive coordinator,

1017
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: the Jets reached out to Gas after he was fired

1018
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins back on New Year's Eve. He was

1019
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: only twenty three wins twenty five losses in three seasons,

1020
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: but he did one against the Jets, winning five of

1021
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: six times. Adam Gase the next head coach of the

1022
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: New York Jets. Then announcement expected to be made official

1023
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: later today. Mike McCarthy says his options this year were

1024
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: New York or nothing. The former PA coach says he

1025
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: plans on coaching in the NFL again, just not this season.

1026
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: McCarthy's fifty five years old. He will sit out twenty nineteen.

1027
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: He pursued only one job, the Jets head coach team position,

1028
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: but now that it's going to Adam Gas, McCarthy says

1029
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: he is out. He'll stay home and be with his

1030
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: family in twenty nineteen. The baseball's Oakland A's expect Oklahoma

1031
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: quarterback Hyler Murray to declare now for the twenty NFL

1032
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: Draft before Monday's deadline. That's according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

1033
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: Murray chose him by the A's with the ninth pick

1034
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: of the Major League Baseball Draft, signed a deal in

1035
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: June with the A's. He led Oklahoma to a twelve

1036
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: and two record and a spot in the college football playoffs,

1037
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: won the Heisman Trophy, and now he's expected to declare

1038
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: that he's emigable for the NFL. Draft draft ector as

1039
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: say Murray could be a first round pick. ESPN's Chris

1040
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: Mortenson said Murray was getting first round feedback. Surrounding the NFL.

1041
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers have signed a kickoff specialist, Nick Rose,

1042
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: the handle kickoff duties in Sunday's wildcard playoff game against

1043
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Their kicking game, the Chargers kicking

1044
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: game allowed the most returns in the NFL during the

1045
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: regular season. Rose kicked in two games for the Chargers.

1046
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: At the end of the twenty seventeen season, Pro Bowl

1047
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: outside linebacker Thomas Davis says he plans to play at

1048
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: least one more season. It will not be with the

1049
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. He announced yesterday that the Panthers told him

1050
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: they're going in a different direction and the sabers off tonight.

1051
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: Back in action tomorrow night in Carolina against the Hurricanes.

1052
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: And that's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy

1053
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: seemed tasker in our One Buffalo Studio spent a lot

1054
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: of time over the last couple of days talking about

1055
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: coaching vacancies, coaching the hires. We're going to talk to

1056
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: a guy who's done a little bit of work on

1057
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: this actually a lot of work and a lot of meaningful,

1058
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: thoughtful writing on this topic. Dominique Foxworth, former NFL cornerback,

1059
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: has written about coaching hires for The Undefeated dot com.

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00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: Dominique Foxworth a former Pro Bowl cornerback Harvard, NBA in

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00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: his resume and he joins us right now in the

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00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: Subway Fresh Stay huntline. Dominique, John Murphy, and Steve Tasker

1063
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. We appreciate coming on with us today.

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00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Oh yeah, it's been a long

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00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: time since I've been on with you guys. Yeah, you

1066
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: know what it was. It was two years ago and

1067
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: you wrote a really good piece too. Yeah, we were

1068
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: thinking about I was thinking about it yesterday because when

1069
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are in the process of interw interviewing coaches,

1070
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: they eventually hired Sean McDermott. You wrote a great piece

1071
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: about how to hire a great NFL coach for your team,

1072
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: and basically it said, look for a CEO, not necessarily

1073
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: one of these coordinators. Right. Did you talk about that

1074
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: and what you had in mind back then when you

1075
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: wrote that. Sure, No, I just think that the idea

1076
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: and it's it was somewhat a novel thought back then.

1077
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: But the idea that the logic behind the way we

1078
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: hired coaches is a little flawed in that we try

1079
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: to find the coordinator who was the best, But the

1080
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: skills that are required to be a good coordinator are

1081
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: not the skills that are required to be a good

1082
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: head coach. So I mean a lot of this information

1083
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: or this opinion of mine comes from playing for John

1084
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: Harboo was the best head coach I play for, and

1085
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: what he was a special teams coach. He wasn't an

1086
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: offensive ordin for the coordinator and his special sings are good,

1087
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: but he wasn't even highly cuted for that. But that's fine.

1088
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: You hire a special teams coordinator, do your special team

1089
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who offense beach the coordinator to do to

1090
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 1: the defense. The head coach is the only person who

1091
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: can impact and cultivate a culture, and I think that

1092
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: is all the soft skills that we don't really think

1093
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: are that important. But building relationships and building bridges between

1094
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players, and building bridges between the

1095
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: players and each other and the team and the fans

1096
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: like those things are the things that I think drive

1097
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: teams to work harder. Than other teams and prepare better

1098
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: than other teams in one games. And that's how you

1099
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: have stain success in his league with a coach like that.

1100
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,479
Speaker 1: We've been talking about these coaching changes, and there's eight

1101
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: opening or there were eight openings at the end of

1102
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: the season, and most of those changes, the reasons for

1103
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: them were self evident. The one that kind of got

1104
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: to me was the one with Steve Wilkes in Arizona.

1105
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: They gave him like one season. They had a general

1106
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: manager who was shaky at best, has already had already

1107
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: used some bad judgment am he had DUI problems and

1108
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: two of them and he was suspended for six so

1109
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: he had a whole kinds of problem. They gave him

1110
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: one season with what. Now at the end of the

1111
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: season you can look back and say, was probably the

1112
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: worst roster in football or a rookie quarterback there, I mean,

1113
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: and he loses his Steve Wilson gets fired. Now, okay,

1114
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: he didn't win games, but there had to be I

1115
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: mean almost like, well, what are they not saying? I mean,

1116
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: was there something else going on there? And I guess

1117
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: maybe they'll tell you. You know, nobody wants to, you know,

1118
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: drag a guy through the mud after he's gone, but

1119
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: by the same token on the surface that looks that

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00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: looks untenable. What's going on in Arizona. Yeah, I have

1121
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: no idea. I'm with you. So I think these last

1122
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: few weeks for them have been quite embarrassing and poorly managed,

1123
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: because we're in the wake of what many have been

1124
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: calling the Blackest Monday, where we our league went from

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00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: having at least this season the beginning of season eight

1126
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: minority coaches to having two, and whether you think that's

1127
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: a problem or not, it is a narrative that is

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00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: out there. And then with that stuff looming around they

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00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: they fired their coach was the only one that you

1130
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: could really make a case for was wrong. All the

1131
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: other coaches, like you could understand why they were fired,

1132
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: which doesn't necessarily say that my coaches in the league

1133
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: is not a problem, but you could understand why those

1134
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: all were fired. But there is no real explanation for

1135
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: why Steve Wilps was fired. You could argue that there

1136
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: wasn't a great explanation to hire him in the first place.

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00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: He was a coordinator for one year, a Stevens coordinator

1138
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: for one year, and it wasn't even like it was

1139
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: a world feeding defense. But then they hired him. But

1140
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: that's fine, and they ran them out there, and I'm

1141
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: with you, I'm not in the building, so I'm going

1142
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: to try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

1143
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: Just assume that whatever was happening there was just so

1144
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: untenable that you can't bring him back but only win

1145
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: in three games with a bad roster, Like do they

1146
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: think he underachieved? And the roster was good because they

1147
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: kept Steve Kyme, the guy you mentioned before who had

1148
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: was the restaurant suspicion of DUI. Just none of it

1149
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: adds up, and then they go from that to hiring,

1150
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: which I wrote about it for The Undefeated today. I

1151
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: don't understand there is no logical explanation for why you

1152
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: hire um clips kings right. All the justifications they crumble

1153
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: under the pressure of two or three follow up questions,

1154
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: like he's not an offensive gurguru, He's not he's not

1155
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: an offensive gourguru. He's not a quarterback whisperer, Like that's

1156
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: just not in his truck. Right. The reputation is there,

1157
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: but he hasn't really done anything to prove that. I

1158
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: would say he was close to Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes

1159
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: awesome while he was in college, but guess what, Patrick

1160
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: Holmes is even better in NFL. So maybe he was

1161
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: just good. And it's not as though he he kind

1162
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: of with Johnny Manzell and the shave. Johnny Manziel was

1163
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: playing kind of parking lot football and he went to

1164
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: the NFL and did the same thing. The only point

1165
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: you could point to is maybe case Keenam down in Houston,

1166
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: where Kase Keenam was a decent NFL quarterback, but a

1167
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: Houston he was a world leader in conference essay. So

1168
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: it really just doesn't make any sense. And he's a

1169
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: head coach, so he's going to have to hire a

1170
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: defensive staff, and there's no indication that he knows anybody

1171
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: that knows anything about defense because he's never been on

1172
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: a team with any defense. So I could go on

1173
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: and on them, sorry to good kind of dominate. It

1174
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense about is there a way to

1175
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: get in there to think maybe the interview process and

1176
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: I know what you have to do it you gotta

1177
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: get these guys in and look at them. But maybe

1178
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: the interview process itself is flawed these guys come in

1179
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: and they can knock it dead and hit a home

1180
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: run in an interview, but once they get out of

1181
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: that room, the answers to all of their questions kind

1182
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: of fall apart. I mean, they don't have the answers

1183
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: to the questions that a head coach gets asked, but

1184
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: a candidate they have all the answers. I mean, maybe

1185
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: that system is flawed. I think you're right, but I

1186
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: don't think they know what they're looking for. And like

1187
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: I have a theory on what it takes to be

1188
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: a head coach and NFL it doesn't mean my theory

1189
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: is right, and lots of other people have theories but

1190
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't. But there is no kind of definitive factor.

1191
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: And I think the same is true for scouting players.

1192
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: We've gotten a lot better at scouting players. But the problem,

1193
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: I think is what scouting players. You have metrics that

1194
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: you can point to and say, well, this forty time matters.

1195
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: We can say definitive elites that it's forty times will

1196
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: matter on the field. It may not mean this person's

1197
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: going to be a Hall of Famer, but it will matter.

1198
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: There's no metrics like that for them. The point too

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00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: there's nothing they can get a gage on because no

1200
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: one has done this job before. It goes back to

1201
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: the point of it's a different job. Like coaching is

1202
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: coaching all the way up until you become an NFL

1203
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: head coach, and then no longer becomes coaching, and it's

1204
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: about delegation and management and public relations like these are

1205
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: the jobs of coaching, and nobody, frankly, no one has

1206
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: been prepared for it. I don't think anybody knows how

1207
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: to interview or test for it. And sometimes you get

1208
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: lucky and find a guy who does it well, or

1209
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: find a team. Frankly, that's another thing is the NFL

1210
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: staff is more important, I think than in many cases

1211
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: than the head coach, and find a guys. Just get

1212
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: lucky and find a team that can do it and

1213
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: do it well, and then everyone looks at you like

1214
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: you figured it out. But I'm not sure that people

1215
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: are even hiring for the right reason. So Flip Kingsburn

1216
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: could turn out to be a great head coach, but

1217
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: everything I've heard, he's got pretty good people skills. But

1218
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: they hired him because there was another young, handsome offensive

1219
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: mine who would have success in their division. And they're like,

1220
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: let's do that right exactly. Dominy Foxworth with us, a

1221
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: long time NFL Corner writer for The Undefeated and the

1222
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: host of the Morning Rose podcast on ESPN The Dominicant.

1223
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: You mentioned about Harbaugh and John Harba, what you thought

1224
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: he was the best coach you had? What did you

1225
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: see in Harbor that led you to that conclusion? What

1226
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: traits did you see in him as a head coach

1227
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: that made you think he's the best He's the best

1228
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: one I've had. I don't think I noticed it at

1229
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: the time. I didn't know what he was doing at

1230
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: the time, but these things stand out to me. When

1231
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: I first signed there, my first meeting, I had my

1232
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: phone in my hand and I just put it down

1233
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: before we started talking. In the screen, flavory thing was

1234
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: still up and it was a globe, and so he

1235
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: used that as a conversation starter and said, so your

1236
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: worldly and you think about these things. And he tried

1237
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: to have a real big conversation about existential issues with me,

1238
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: and then I was like, no, well, it was the

1239
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: default that came with the phone, so he missed on that,

1240
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: but he was trying to try again. Then I tore

1241
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: my acl I was in the training round and I

1242
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: was reading a book. He came in and had a

1243
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: forty five minute conversation with me in the middle of

1244
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: a game week the game I wasn't playing in because

1245
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: I was out for the season, at a forty five

1246
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: minute conversation with me about the book that I was reading,

1247
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: because he had happened to have read it when he

1248
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: was in school. So I think that matters, and I

1249
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: think that that building those bridges is something that matters

1250
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: to building a culture on a team. And so often

1251
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: I think coaches believe that they and the front offices

1252
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: also believed like, all right, we're going to hire somebody

1253
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: from the Belizet treat because they will come and install

1254
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: that Patriot's Way culture here. You can't just install a

1255
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 1: culture like it has to be cultivated, and it's something

1256
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: that you have to There is a culture out of

1257
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: organization when you get there. So in order to change

1258
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: that culture, it requires a slow process. It's not just

1259
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: walking and games and saw I think you see that

1260
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: kind of backlash happening in Detroit right now on that

1261
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: Patrician Heyday. We had a conversation on our show a

1262
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: couple of months ago in the middle of the Bill

1263
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: season about that topic culture, Sean McDermott. What did he say,

1264
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: See he said culture Trump's strategy or something. Yeah. Back

1265
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: in the offseason he had said that, Yeah, do you

1266
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: believe that culture is more important than X IS and

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Speaker 1: oas Absolutely. I think I think that they are hard

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01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: ways to compete in this league, and there are ways

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01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: that you can no longer compete. So there was a

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Speaker 1: time when I think that you could compete based on

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Speaker 1: being fit, like whoever worked out the hardest, But we're not.

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: We're past that point. Everyone is in the same condition,

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01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: Like you can't outwork your opponent at this point, we're

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: all running and lifting the same amount. And I think

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: the same is true for scheme, Like I don't think

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01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: you can out skiing opponents, Like that's not sustainable. Everyone

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01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: has good coaches, smart coaches. You might give it edg

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01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: this week, but the next team is going to figure

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: that out, and I don't think that's gonna I mean,

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01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: the league legislates talent in a way that it's hard

1281
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: to with the salary cap and with the draft order,

1282
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: and it's hard to just have more talent than anybody else.

1283
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: But I do think that your preparation matters, and your preparation.

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: I think it was completely tied in with the culture

1285
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: of the organization, which in my mind of like culture

1286
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: is one of those words that means so many things

1287
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: to a bunch of people, but in my mind is

1288
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: like the expected or the accepted, like activities and practices

1289
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: and processes. That is what the culture is. It's the

1290
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: things that people are expected to do and that they

1291
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: expect from each other and hold each other accountable for.

1292
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: And I think that that matter that helps the teams

1293
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: be more prepared. That that is how you come up

1294
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: with more innovative strategies because you have a culture that

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01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: is conducive for that. And I think the Patriots culture

1296
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: is frankly, I think it is based on flexibility. And

1297
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: see why how they draft and who they pay and

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01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: what their roster looks like. They want flexible guys that

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01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: can change strategy and can run the ball, catch the ball,

1300
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: play rush play, pass coverage like that is what the

1301
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: things like they're optimizing for. And not all teams can

1302
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: do that. But I do think you need to develop

1303
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: a culture that fits in directly with the resources as

1304
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: you have and the players that you have. And I

1305
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: think it's soft and it's not fun. It's a lot

1306
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: more fun to say, hey, we got this new don't

1307
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: read thing. No one will be able to stop that.

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: Some people figure it out right, Dominique, I want to

1309
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: ask you a little bit about the games coming up

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01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: this weekend. Dak Prescott and the Cowboys headed into La

1311
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: Rams and for me and you don't have to speak

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01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 1: to this, I think the NFC games are a little

1313
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: bit out look to be a little bit lopsided, more

1314
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: so than the AFC games. But do you think Dak

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: Prescott and the Cowboys are maybe a super Bowl caliber team?

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01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: I think so. I think they could. I certainly think

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01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: they could win this week um turning out a super

1318
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: Bowl favorite. But I think that with DA's very short

1319
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: playoff history has been incredibly impressive. Like you think back

1320
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: to the divisional game his rookie year. He went toe

1321
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: to toe with Aaron Rodgers and they were down by

1322
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: fifteen headed into the fourth quarter and Dak scored a

1323
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: touchdown on the first drive, sored a touchdown on the

1324
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: second drive, got the two point in version. Then Aaron

1325
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers went back and led them to a field goal.

1326
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: Dak answered and took him down and led him to

1327
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: a field goal than Aaron Rodgers had that crazy, ridiculous

1328
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: throw like that was his, that was him as a

1329
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: rook he made He had three fourth quarter drives, needed

1330
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: to scoring all of him and he did. And then

1331
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: we saw similar things against um Russell Wilsons and the

1332
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks last week like he played well and all the

1333
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: criticisms that Lenahan is getting in Jason Garrett, I've been

1334
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: one that's been defending them, and it seemed like it

1335
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: came to fruition this weekend for last weekend because they

1336
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: had plays remember that a Mari throwback, Like, they had

1337
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: well designed plays that they pulled out in the second

1338
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: half at opportunity moments and it worked out. So I

1339
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it'll be a close game. I

1340
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: don't think that home feel advantage of pattern and last

1341
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: under Elders, it will be half Dallas Tis, which would

1342
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: be helpful because if you noticed, Dak is one of

1343
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: the most active guys under center Pree snap like he

1344
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: seems to be making changes every single play before every snap,

1345
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: and being on the road makes it more difficult, but

1346
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: not if you're in a stadium that's half full of

1347
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: La saying or of M Dallas. So I like, yeah,

1348
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: I like Dallas. This weekend in that running game, while

1349
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: I was watching playoff football last week, I came across

1350
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: the television ad with Vantage Davis explaining about, you know,

1351
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: his motivation for leaving the Bills at halftime of the

1352
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: home opener and now AMA was a commercial for fantasy football.

1353
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: You talked to Vante Davis shortly after his departure from Buffalo.

1354
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: What did you take from that? And I read that

1355
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: I reread your post today I'm the undefeated. You didn't

1356
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: defend him, but you certainly felt like he had an

1357
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: argument to make for his decision to leave at halftime

1358
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: of the of the Bills home opener. What did you

1359
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: take from that? Yeah? No, I mean I feel like

1360
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: it was a waste of energy to bash him at

1361
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: that point, like the reasons why you could be disappointed

1362
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: at him or set at him, Uh, we're obvious. I

1363
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: thought was more interesting was talking to him and figuring

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01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: out like how could we be hympathetic? How could we

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: understand that? And I I had never done anything like that,

1366
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: And I can't say that I wouldn't do anything like

1367
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: that because I've never felt what he felt. And I

1368
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: don't know what it feels like to walk into a

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01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: locker room and well, let me correct it. I know

1370
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: what I like, do not want to play football. I retired.

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: I didn't want to play anymore. And I was on

1372
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: the sideline watching games and thinking, you've watching the game

1373
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: like there's no way, like what type of maniacs do

1374
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: There's there's no way that I could go out there

1375
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: and do that. And so the best thing I could

1376
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,479
Speaker 1: do to like to empathize with Vonte was imagine if

1377
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: I was in the locker room when that moment hit,

1378
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: if I had a helmet in my hand and shoulder

1379
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: pads on when I when that moment here. But I

1380
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: don't know what always is. I might have might have

1381
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: done a similar thing. It might have faked an injury

1382
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: like I really gave it them thought like what I

1383
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: do or I might have done I think gone through

1384
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: the motion. But if your heart's not in it, that's

1385
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: something that our coaches tell us all the time. He

1386
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: used to tell us all the time, and maybe it

1387
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: was just lip service, but they say, we don't want

1388
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: anybody here who doesn't want to be here. When you

1389
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: start getting the slower practice. I'm sure. I'm sure that

1390
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: Steve and other players would could attest to hearing something

1391
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: like that from coaching at some point where it's like,

1392
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be here, then we don't

1393
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: want you here. So he didn't want to be there,

1394
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: so he laughed. It seems like he made the right

1395
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: decision for everyone. I know that it's difficult for people

1396
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: to let their minds well, it was the timing, nothing

1397
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: less bothermin what about the timing of it halftime? Make

1398
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: that decision on Monday after the game. There is no

1399
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: defense of the timing like we live in and I

1400
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: feel like such buying at times or you have to

1401
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: either say something was one hundred percent right or something

1402
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: one hundred percent run, where I a hundred percent of

1403
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: this version, Like there was no defense for the timing

1404
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: like that was awful. I mean it was well his teammates,

1405
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: in fact, for the players. But at the same time,

1406
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: I can say that I understand where it was coming from,

1407
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: Like I can both understand him and defend him and

1408
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: say that what you did was well. Dominic, I know

1409
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: this too, and I listen. It was his call to

1410
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: make I get it. He had every right to do

1411
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: what he did. But do you think he understood the

1412
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: gravity of the future ramifications of what he was doing

1413
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: at the time he made that decision. No, I mean

1414
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: it was usually emotional decision. I think that decision was

1415
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: by emotion. I don't think that he rashly thought him

1416
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: through what to do. And I mean, and I'll be

1417
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm not sure that I understand the

1418
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: long term. Let me explain that to me, because I

1419
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: don't understand what the long term revlication, only ramication or

1420
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: anything that came to mind with me was it's tougher

1421
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: on his teammates, because on his coaches, because there's one

1422
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: year play out there. But that happens from time to

1423
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: time when someone gets injured. So it didn't seem like

1424
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: it was that like the ramifications were that. Yeah. The

1425
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: only thing, the only ramification that I'm referring to is

1426
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: the fact that no matter what he has done in

1427
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: his career, there's only one thing that's going on his

1428
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: bio for the rest for the rest of his for

1429
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. I mean, his whole career

1430
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: gets washed away in regard to the last thing that

1431
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: he did as a player, and that's I don't know

1432
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: that he thought about that. I don't even know if

1433
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: anybody could have really anticipated it. It seems obvious now,

1434
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: but there's no question that for the rest of his life,

1435
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: this is his career. Yeah, he got an endorsement deal

1436
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: from it too. I guess in some ways that's like

1437
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: the poetic inappropriate we have. It seems like we all

1438
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: are concerned about how it's going to impact your team,

1439
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: makes some players, but really the person who is most

1440
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 1: effectively impacted for a long time as him. Oh yeah,

1441
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: it almost seems fair. It was interesting your conversation with him.

1442
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: All your stuff is interesting, Dominicque. I hope we can

1443
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: get you on the show again a little bit more

1444
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: often down the road and talk about some of these issues.

1445
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us here today. How many Foxworth

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: rights for the Undefeated dot com. He is also a

1447
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: host of the Morning Roast podcast on ESPN. Does a

1448
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: lot of work with the ESPN these Days. Played seven

1449
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: years in the NFL as a cornerback. Dominique Fokworth. Dominique

1450
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: Foxworth joined us on the Subway Fresh Tack kline, presented

1451
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: by Subway restaurants, probably locally owned and operated. He lays

1452
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: out the way to hire a head coach better than

1453
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: anybody ever heard in the last couple of years. And again,

1454
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: the post that he wrote two years ago for The

1455
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 1: Undefeated was right around the time the Bills were interviewing

1456
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. You know, we spent a lot of time yesterday,

1457
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: see you talking about young offensive coordinators. That's kind of

1458
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: the coin of the realm. It appeared yesterday anyway, Foxworth writes,

1459
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: some coordinators who are hired sometimes they go the other

1460
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: way completely. Instead of being the CEO, they abandoned their

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01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: past as a coordinator and focus on their responsibilities as

1462
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: a head coach. In this scenario, the organization is paying

1463
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: the coach more to do what he is good at less.

1464
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: Often makes a good point. You know you're hiring these

1465
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: coordinators and a couple of teams have done it this

1466
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: offseason who are good coordinators but have no experience as

1467
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: a head coach, no experiences the CEO, no experience creating

1468
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: a culture. And so then if they turn to that,

1469
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 1: they've abandoned what they were good at, calling plays, designing offenses.

1470
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: It just seems like a backwards way to do it

1471
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: for me. Yep I think he's totally And let's face

1472
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 1: it too, things have changed and they're they're ever changing

1473
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: the league. What it takes to be a head coach

1474
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: National Football League now is way different than it was

1475
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: when Levy took over for the Buffalo Bills and when

1476
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: all those old Don when Don Shula took over in

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins in the nineteen sixties, and the league has

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Speaker 1: evolved so fast, and it really is you're running what

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Speaker 1: is now multi billion dollar industry in house. I mean

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Speaker 1: that it's big responsibility and there's a lot of irons

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Speaker 1: in the fire. You've got analytics, you've got people who

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Speaker 1: are college scouting, pro scouting, you've got self scouting. You've

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01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: got counterintelligence where you're finding out everything you can about

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: your upcoming opponents on and off the field. You're trying

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01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: to do in game adjustments on the fly, which is

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01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: as hot a topic in the NFL right now as

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Speaker 1: anything else, and your ability to do that is being

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Speaker 1: tested every week and different, and you have to come

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01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,480
Speaker 1: up with the techniques and the protocols for your organization

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Speaker 1: to do all of that. It's an enormously executive level job.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about it the way I just

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01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: did it almost forgets that they're xs and os and

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01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,879
Speaker 1: strategies and involved and more so than any other industry

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01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: that has all that same stuff going on. It's emotions,

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01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 1: it's emotional content of your guys on the field bringing

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Speaker 1: a level of commitment and aggression on any given play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about covering all the bases of

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Speaker 1: human emotion and activity and intellect and strategy. An NFL

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01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: head coach has to do all of that. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know that just because you can call plays off

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: a play sheet qualifies you. I agree, you got to

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: look for so much more stuff. Yeah, so, hey, we

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: can talk more about this what constitutes a good coaching

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01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: higher they're being hired left and right in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Got phones open for that. Our Twitter poll today deals

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Speaker 1: with the Bills in twenty eighteen. What was their biggest

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Speaker 1: accomplishment in twenty eighteen? The Buffalo Bills got a couple

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Speaker 1: of suggestions for you up on the Twitter poll. The

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Speaker 1: Bill's biggest accomplishment in twenty eighteen drafting and developing the

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Speaker 1: potential future quarterback. Sixty four percent of you say yes,

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Speaker 1: that's it. Twenty six percent of you say they bit

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Speaker 1: the bullet on the salary camp, that's the biggest accomplishment.

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: Seven percent of you say, you know what, They didn't

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01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: accomplish much with only six wins three percent. Only three

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Speaker 1: percent say the improvement in the defense was their biggest accomplishment.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call full Night's

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Speaker 1: open eight three five fifty, toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty, or send it a tweet.

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01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: We might read it on the tweet sheet. Come on

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Speaker 1: back a lot more to talk about whatever's on your

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Speaker 1: mind eight three five fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. It is One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Collatta Health from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live

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01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive. John Murphy's Seve Tasker were presented

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01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: by Collatda Health. Coming to you from our one Buffalo

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Speaker 1: studio in Orchard Park, Chilly. Yeah. I just took a

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01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: look outside, Steve. Not not much snow, not two feet snow,

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: that's for sure, not even close. It's cold now, a

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Speaker 1: little snowy. Thanks for tuning in today on this Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Playoffs coming up interesting tactic. I want to We're going

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Speaker 1: to get back to our Twitter poll in a second here,

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Speaker 1: and you take your phone calls on that. What was

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01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: the Bill's biggest accomplishment in twenty eighteen. Many teams still

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01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: out there trying to accomplish, trying to finish this season strong,

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01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 1: including the New Orleans Saints. Steve and I've lost the article,

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01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: but it was a pretty good one about Oh here

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Speaker 1: to Sean Payton. Did you see what Sean Payton did

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01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: Monday this week in the New Orleans Saints awesome? He uh.

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01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: As the players returned for work this Monday, getting ready

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01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: to host the Philadelphia in the Sunday NFC Divisional playoff game,

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01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: Sean Payton brought three armed guards, a stack of more

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,520
Speaker 1: than two hundred thousand dollars in the Vince Lombardi Trophy,

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl ring into the team meeting room

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01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: to get the attention of the players. Stacked right, they

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01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: had two hundred and fifty grand stacked right here, the

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01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi Trophy and a super Bowl ring at the

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: Saints have already won back in years past, so he

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: had all three of those things sitting there along with like,

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01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, four or three or four armed guards in

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01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: the room, right yeah, And he said, do you want this?

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01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: So win three games? The place erupted. I mean, the

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01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: guys were going crazy because that's you know that. Hey,

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01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: that stuff works, man? Does it? Every coach do that before?

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01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: Not like that? What have they done? I don't know,

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: let me you know. No, we never had anything like that.

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01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: Peyton did it before the two thousand and nine Saints

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01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. Only three of his current players were

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01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: around for that. Mark Ingram said, you know, guys make

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: good money here, but you don't often see two under

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01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars cash. And the Lombardi Trophy is sitting

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: right there in front of it, and the rings sitting

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01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: right next to it. M Sheldon Rankin's defensive tackle. His quote,

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: if you saw all that money in front of you,

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01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: anybody would get excited about that, And I'm right along

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01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: with them. Motivational tactic. I bet it. I bet that works.

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: Here's the money, here's the trophy, here's the ring. You

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01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: want it? Listen? Yeah, and you can say that. I mean, listen,

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01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: everybody has their own motivation for playing football and for

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: why they want to win, and their competitive spirit and

1571
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: all that, but you know, you do play. We do

1572
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: live in a world where there are tangible rewards for

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01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: what you're doing on a football field. In the United States.

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01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are rich, they're paid handsomely for

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01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: their skills as an athlete. But to see tangibly what

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01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: they'll get if they if they go out there, if

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01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: you tangibly to see a carrot on the end of

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01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,879
Speaker 1: that stick and what it looks like, it's it's pretty stark.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really Sean Payton is a really

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01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: sharp coach. And you know he's taking criticism and deservedly

1581
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: so over the years. He was responding, you know, for

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01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 1: the bounty gate thing a few years ago. He survived.

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: It was suspended for an entire year and this and

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: the organization hung in there with him, and you know,

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: to see that him whether that and come back. He

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01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: is one of those coaches. And I said it yesterday.

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: He is what Sean McVay. He's what Cliff Kingsbury, what

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01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur would all these young hot shot coordinators want

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01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: to be. He's the guy. He's the guy. He's been

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01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 1: in New Orleans for a long time. He owns the city,

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01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean the guy. The guy's a city, citywide treasure.

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Speaker 1: He's won a Super Bowl, has been with the same

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Speaker 1: quarterback for all those years. He is what all these

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01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: young players want to be, these young head coaches, these

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01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: young handsome offensive coordinators, head coaches. He's what they want

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01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: to be. And to have him, you know, say hey, guys,

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: here's what you're playing for. It's pretty cool. Yeah he's, um,

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: you know, not my favorite, but certainly he is well respecting.

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01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, they're They're going to the Super Bowl, Steve.

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01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna. I think they're gonna succeed. Listen,

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: not just because of the stunt with the trophies and

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01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: the cash, but I think they've got the talent and um,

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, they gotta believe like they were kind of

1604
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: short circuited last year, losing the way they did in

1605
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, right, and that tremendous finish to

1606
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: that game in Minnesota. I believe that they're gone. I

1607
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: think they're going to the SUPERO this year. I think, well,

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01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: they're the NFC. He is a guy who has who

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01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: is one of those hot coordinators who turned out to

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01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: be the right guy, not just a guy who can

1611
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: call plays, He handles that entire organization. He weathered an

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01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: enormous storm of their own making no question, and has

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01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: continued to coach really well. You know, he's one of

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01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: those guys when he gets on the sidelines of head

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01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't waste timeouts, he doesn't mismanage the clock at

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01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: the end of the games, he doesn't go conservative in

1617
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: a game that he's got to win. He doesn't do

1618
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: any of that stuff that all these other guys are

1619
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: criticized for. He seems to be razors sharp every time

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01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: he steps on the sidelines, and his team's one of

1621
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: the favorites to go to the Super Bowl as a result. Again,

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01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: Bills in twenty eighteen, what did they accomplished? Give us

1623
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: a call, let's discuss or from the tweet sheet a

1624
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: couple of tweets the Bill's biggest accomplishments in twenty eighteen,

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01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: Amy tweets in it's obviously Josh, she says, But add

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01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: that to the fact that they also got out of

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01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: salary cap hell and got Tremaine Edmonds a good twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen all right, I like that, Robert Lewis tweet. I

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01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: think the biggest accomplishment was McDermott continuing to build his

1630
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: culture and the team buying in. Boy. That's an important point,

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01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: especially in light of our conversation a minute ago with

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Speaker 1: Dominique Foxworth. There are those team and we've heard him

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: and I listened to him, but there are those who

1634
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: say culture doesn't matter, winds matter, Talent matters. McDermott, we

1635
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: got a whole show out of it. Back in the fall,

1636
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: he said, culture Trump's strategy, right. Robert Lewis, tweeting in,

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01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: said the biggest accomplishment was that McDermott continued to build

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Speaker 1: his culture. I would listen to that argument. I wouldn't

1639
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 1: dismiss that offhand. I don't know if it's the biggest accomplishment,

1640
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: but he certainly the culture that they started to build

1641
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen took firm route here in twenty eighteen,

1642
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: and I think that bodes well for the future. I

1643
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: think there's a certain level of given in the NFL.

1644
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: You're when you reach the NFL, the XS and os

1645
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: to a certain extent are a given. You're gonna be

1646
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: sound in your defense, and now certainly you can team

1647
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: and give your guys the best chance to win, get matchups.

1648
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: But even deep into that, down that road or a

1649
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: lot of it is a given. At the NFL level,

1650
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: You've got a ton of coaches who are strategists who

1651
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: put together their game plans with xs and os, and

1652
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: your players understand the schemes at the XS and os

1653
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: to a higher degree than any other level of football.

1654
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 1: So there is a level of it that it goes

1655
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 1: beyond running and stopping the run. You've got to have

1656
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: pass rush and you gotta get turnovers kind of thing.

1657
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: And when you get to a culture, a lot of

1658
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: what you know, certainly you're going to have a sound

1659
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: game plan in place to go into a game. But

1660
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: when you've got a team that it has a culture

1661
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: of expectation, and that culture is one that the expectation

1662
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: within your locker room has your players, the old players,

1663
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: young players alike, studying hard to prepare themselves mentally for

1664
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday and holding each other accountable and

1665
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: making sure there each other are sharp and know what

1666
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: they're doing. That culture trumps the game plan because it

1667
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: means that your players are going to be more prepared,

1668
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: they're going to be better able to adjust, they're going

1669
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: to be more more ready to make decisions on the

1670
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: fly that are in concert with one another during a game.

1671
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: That to me is culture, not excess and os, and

1672
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: I think it does Trump's strategy. Let's go to a

1673
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 1: call here, Hank in West Seneca. Hello, Hank, you're on

1674
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 1: the air with us. Listen. Years ago, I was working

1675
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: at I worked on it original stadium, rich Stadium, And

1676
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: at one time they talked about Covernant with a dome,

1677
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: and they talked about they'd have to put the columns

1678
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: like thirty to fifty feet away from the existing building

1679
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't interfere with any other thing. And I'm

1680
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: just wondering what would cost today as opposed to building

1681
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: a whole new stadium in the city. No idea, Yeah,

1682
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: no idea. And that's a yeah, yeah, Hank. I don't know.

1683
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: We've um asked me in ten years what they're gonna do,

1684
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: because that's what it's you, that's what you're gonna be

1685
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: talking about. It's gonna be it's gonna be a decade

1686
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: before any of this is decided. And the only, yeah, listen,

1687
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: the only poll that's gonna matter in the end is

1688
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: the one that goes around a conference table uh, and

1689
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be about probably eight or ten

1690
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: people in the room, and they're all gonna be people

1691
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: other than Murphinine, So we won't even know the right

1692
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: that pole is going to trump the pole that we've

1693
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: all taken over the last week or two. So you know,

1694
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: you take the poll. I I don't even know. You

1695
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: gotta take it. It's pretty fun, so huh why do

1696
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: I have to take it? And I don't know if

1697
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: it matters? Does it matter? No, it doesn't, not, not

1698
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: for not for the time being. Listen, I listen. You

1699
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: and I both think that this stadium issue, this question,

1700
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: this is this is a dot on the horizon. If

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01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: I get I would be I'll be surprised, rised. Maybe

1702
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if in a decade any of us

1703
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: are sitting in a new stadium in Buffalo. Now nine

1704
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: years okay maybe now it's kind of it's like it's

1705
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: a half a dozen years away. Yeah, at least before

1706
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: they even break ground. My guess is they will try

1707
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: to renovate what they have here. But I don't know

1708
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 1: that nobody knows that they've done it like five times. Yeah,

1709
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: do it again? Yeah, you know, you got a stadium

1710
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: built in the ground, and that part of it I

1711
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: think is pretty solid. And do what you have to

1712
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: do up top. But again, our opinions don't matter. It's

1713
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: amazing because at least we have on the radio somebody

1714
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: can call in and ask us our opinion, because that

1715
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: person who calls is the only one who cares. Right,

1716
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: we gotta break here. We're gonna come back to sure

1717
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: nobody cares in my own house what my opinion is about.

1718
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can attend, not about the stadium. Yeah.

1719
01:23:54,439 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: One do's live from One's driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1720
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: Coming up at two o'clock today, a couple of minutes away.

1721
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: Moose Johnston, Darryl Moose Johnston. We'll talk with him about

1722
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys as they get set to head to Los

1723
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: Angeles to play the Rams. Eight fifteen on Saturday, you're

1724
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 1: gonna watch all four playoff games this week? Seven? Yep?

1725
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: Are you really? I'm gonna be You did not last week? Right, nobody?

1726
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: I'm going to be reclined. And how do you feel

1727
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: about that? At seven forty five pm on Sunday, I'll

1728
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: feel like I've wasted the day. Today's I'll feel like

1729
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: a total total right, Yes, so what can we do?

1730
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: That's what we really need. We need advice for people

1731
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: who want to keep up on these games, but don't

1732
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: want to just plant themselves on the couch for seven

1733
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: hours Saturday, seven Saturday thing, eight hours the Saturday thing.

1734
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,879
Speaker 1: The four thirty five Chiefs gamed in the eight fifteen

1735
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys RAMS game. That's perfect because by you know, you

1736
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: can like do whatever you want all the way U

1737
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: until four o'clock. Let's face it here, at six five

1738
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: forty five, it'll be dark. Yeah, I'll be ready to

1739
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: shut it down on Saturday, right Sunday. However, I mean, now,

1740
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: what do I do if I have hockey tickets on Saturday?

1741
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 1: Which I do? You gotta go to the hockey go

1742
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: hockey game, hockey game, the Cowboys RAM games. We had

1743
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: Dominic Foxworth on and he thinks the Cowboys could go

1744
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: into LA and win. I think he's I think he's drunk, delusional. Yeah,

1745
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he's. There's no way, and I'm I

1746
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: got a lot of respect, a lot of respect for

1747
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: dominating he. But he thinks the Cowboys and Dak Prescott

1748
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 1: are clutch. And I have seen that listen, the Rams

1749
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: are tough, and it will be a Cowboys friendly stadium

1750
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: out there in LA. But man, oh man, gotta be

1751
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: a strategy. I gotta figure this out. I got basketball

1752
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: tickets on Sunday, two o'clock hockey tickets on Saturdays, basketball

1753
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: tickets on Sunday, and four games to watch. There's just

1754
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: not enough for me to go around. Really, I got

1755
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: to be a spectator for like thirty hours this week.

1756
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 1: You got things, you got things you can do. Yeah,

1757
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: you got things you gotta watch. Yeah right, I don't

1758
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: know how to do it. I gotta figure it out,

1759
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: I guess I. And people say take the game once

1760
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: or later. Well, then now you've devoted more time to

1761
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: just sitting on your butt watching. Do you have the

1762
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: do you have the game pass and all that? Yeah? Okay,

1763
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: see so that helps. So I can watch the condensed. Yeah,

1764
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: you can go down and watch the condensed for forty

1765
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: five minutes. For those people who don't know what that is,

1766
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: you need to find out what that is, because that's

1767
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: a lifesaver for people like Murph and I. Yeah, you

1768
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: can watch an NFL game in like thirty five forty minutes. Now,

1769
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: what I typically do is prioritize. So which game am

1770
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: I at least interested in this weekend? It's Thursday, I

1771
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: should started thinking about this. Um, Dallas and the Rams

1772
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: would be the game that I think I would be

1773
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: most inclined to miss. That's the eight o'clock on Saturday,

1774
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: eight fifteen pm on Saturday. Seconds most so you can

1775
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: go to the hockey game, right you catch up on

1776
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: keep up on it? Yeah, second, I'm ranking them now.

1777
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like all three of the others.

1778
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: I want to see the Colts in the Chiefs. I

1779
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: certainly want to see the Chargers in New England. And

1780
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and New Orleans shouldn't be probably see you know

1781
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, Well you you got basketball taket? What time Sunday?

1782
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Uh two? I'll see. That's a crusher. I know I

1783
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: might not make it to that. That's a crusher. I know.

1784
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Plus Sunday night, Michigan's on TV at the seven o'clock

1785
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: in the end of the Philadelphia was catching the last

1786
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: two thirds today? Right? Yeah, I need a little help

1787
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: with this schedule. You know, it's tough to be you,

1788
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: Murph Michigan's on tonight. You you sound like you're interested

1789
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: in watching Michigan basketball tonight. You printed out a schedule

1790
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: that was only because I got to have a conversation

1791
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: with you, and I can't. All I said was, hey,

1792
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Michigan's on TV. If I want to get if you

1793
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: want to get Murph to listen to you, sprinkling tour,

1794
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: Michigan basketball, even doesn't matter what you're talking about. And

1795
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: then we'll get to the point that fifteen second we'll

1796
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 1: snap around and start talking. He'll start listening to you.

1797
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,799
Speaker 1: When will if you if Michigan basketball, what no, fifteen

1798
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 1: and even yeah, even your even your lovely bride would

1799
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: tell you that she'll need you get something from the store.

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01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: She'll start with Michigan basketball, and by the time it's over,

1801
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna be bringing home a local bread and a

1802
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: band a dozen bags. I said last night, at least

1803
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: she'll listen last night, nothing old on that's really on TV.

1804
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: I said, hey, Michigan basketball tomornight into her credit this

1805
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: why we're married, thirty tigars. He goes, oh, really good,

1806
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: perfect answer. Now will she watch? You'll watch a little

1807
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: and wander around. But that was the right answer. The

1808
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: crucial thing is that that gives you the green light

1809
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 1: to just park it and just yeah, yeah, Michigan because

1810
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: she's yeah, she understands Michigan night tonight. So you're not

1811
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: watch a good place. You mentioned you watched Kansas last night.

1812
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: So that's what I couldn't watch. I couldn't watch. I

1813
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: couldn't watch. I'm not there yet. I'm still neck deep

1814
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: in the football thing and I just can't do it. Okay,

1815
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm hockey. I'm you know, I see. I'm

1816
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: in the football thing. Now. Is when I lose football

1817
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: and I still have the hockey, then maybe I'll get

1818
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: into the basketball. Okay, all right, we'll sort it out.

1819
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: But you're in a good place with the Michigan. They're

1820
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: fifteen and all. We're gonna break. We got Darryl moose

1821
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 1: Johnson coming up when we return. Come on back. One

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01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Collatia Health. From One Bill's Drive.

1823
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:15,440
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network Stories.

1824
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: The update from One Bill's Drive. Adam Gase is going

1825
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: to be hired as the Jets head coach. That should

1826
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: happen at anytime now. The Jets hiring the former Dolphins

1827
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: coach as their head coach. Former Brown's interim head coach

1828
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: Greg Williams under consideration for defensive coordinator with the New

1829
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: York Jets. Former Broncos coach Ban Joseph Vance. Joseph, who

1830
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 1: was Gaze's defensive coordinator in twenty sixteen in Miami, also

1831
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: a candidate for the DC job with the New York Jets.

1832
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: Jets reached out to Gays soon after he was fired

1833
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 1: by the Miami Dolphins last week. He was only twenty

1834
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: three and twenty five and three seasons, but against the

1835
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: Jets he won five of the six times they played.

1836
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: Adam Gase being hired as the new head coach of

1837
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Former Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy

1838
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: got an interview with the Jets, but now he says

1839
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 1: he plans to coach in the NFL next season. It

1840
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 1: will not be in twenty nineteen. McCarthy said he will

1841
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: sit out the twenty nineteen season. The only job he

1842
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: pursued was the Jets vacancy. He did not get it,

1843
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: so he's ready to step to the sidelines. Oakland A

1844
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: is a Major League baseball expect Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray

1845
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: to declare now for the twenty nineteen NFL Draft before

1846
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 1: the deadline next Monday. That's according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

1847
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was a two sports star at Oklahoma. Chose

1848
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: him by the A's with the ninth pick of the

1849
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball Draft in twenty eighteen. Signed a deal

1850
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: back in June that included a signing BOTUS of four

1851
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: point seven million dollars. Ready to walk away from that

1852
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: to go into the NFL draft. Draft experts like mel

1853
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: Kiper and Todd mcchay say Murray could be a first

1854
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: round pick. ESPN's Chris Morton. Mortenson says Murray was getting

1855
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 1: first round feedback. Regarding the National Football League, The Los

1856
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers are signing kickoff specialist Nick Rose to handle

1857
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: kickoff duties in their wildcard game against New England on Sunday.

1858
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: They've had trouble with the kickoffs. They've allowed the most

1859
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: returns in the NFL during the regular season. Nick ro

1860
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: was kicked in two games for the Chargers. At the

1861
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: end of the twenty seventeen regular season. Pro Bowl. Outside

1862
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: linebacker Thomas Davis says he'll play at least one more season.

1863
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: It will not be with the Carolina Panthers. He announced

1864
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: last night. The Panthers hold him, they're moving on, and

1865
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: the Savers, practicing today head out to Raleigh. North Carolina

1866
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: played the Hurricanes in Carolina tomorrow night before returning home

1867
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: on Saturday. John Murphy Steve Tasker in our One Buffalo studio.

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01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: Welcome to our number three of one Bills Live from

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01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. A lot to talk about. Our Twitter

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01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: poll today deals with the Bills. What was their major

1871
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: accomplishment in twenty eighteen. We're getting pretty interesting feedback on this.

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01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: What's the biggest thing they accomplished? On the Twitter poll?

1873
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 1: We give you a couple of options. Could it be,

1874
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: in fact the development and drafting of Josh Allen. A

1875
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: lot of people think that's the number one accomplishment the

1876
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Bills had in twenty eighteen. Was it, in fact the

1877
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 1: fact that the defense went from twenty six in the

1878
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: National Football League all the way up to second in

1879
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 1: the National Football League? Was it the fact that the

1880
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 1: Bills bit the bullet on the salary cap? Twenty six

1881
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,839
Speaker 1: percent of you say yes, that's it. Seven percent earnestly

1882
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: and honestly say, you know, those didn't accomplish much the

1883
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,799
Speaker 1: only one six games. What do you think the biggest

1884
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: accomplishment for the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills. Let's talk about it.

1885
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three five fifty and

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01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 1: fifty or on Twitter on the tweet sheet. What do

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01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: you got there, Steve Yes. From Derek Tesh, he says,

1889
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: I think it's not only developing Josh Allen, but also

1890
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: developing Edmunds Milano and possible diamonds in the rough, Foster

1891
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 1: and Levi Wallace as possible starters. A lot of people

1892
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 1: have pointed to that this coaching staff's ability to get

1893
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: the most out of guys who weren't highly touted coming

1894
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: out of college. Also from Nick Blake, he says, that's

1895
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: got to be the salary cap. I'm extremely happy about Allen,

1896
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: but being able to rebuild the offense at will this

1897
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: offseason is huge. Top D plus A, top oz AFC

1898
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: East Champs next season. So obviously, and we've been living

1899
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,799
Speaker 1: through this the last couple of weeks. Optimism runs high

1900
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 1: after the way they finished Josh Allen, and you think

1901
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this last night, the way he

1902
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: ended the season, and one of the things I heard

1903
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: of from him after the season was telling I thought,

1904
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 1: I hope that they it's telling. They asked him about

1905
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: being able to complete sixty percent of his passes in

1906
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins game, and he says, they said, because you're

1907
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: a you know, or you're a fifty two percent completion guy,

1908
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: how'd you get sixty percent completions? He said, you know,

1909
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 1: I just uh just was going to take the completions.

1910
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, we decided that was the game plan.

1911
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: I just want to get completions. And to have him

1912
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: say that and to think, well, gosh, you mean all

1913
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: these you know guys have been doing right, I mean right,

1914
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 1: So he goes. He just you get this feeling when

1915
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: you watch him play. He wants to win every place,

1916
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: so he wants to press the ball down the field.

1917
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: He wants to snap off big chunks of yards and

1918
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: to have day ball and probably the other guys in

1919
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback room sit down and saying, you know what,

1920
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: how about this, Josh, Let's just take the completion that's

1921
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: there this week. See how that goes. And it turns

1922
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: into a forty point forty two point outing right through

1923
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 1: a couple of he threw a couple interceptions, one for

1924
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: a pick six, but by the same token as well.

1925
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: It was it was a forty two point explosion and

1926
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: beating a team that that you couldn't get beat a

1927
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: week three weeks before that, Plus you complete sixty percent

1928
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: of your passes and pressed change, So it seems that easy. Yeah,

1929
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: I was. I had to read that twice when when

1930
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: I heard it, you know, and that to me is

1931
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: really really promising. Yeah, you know what, it says a

1932
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: lot to me about Josh Obviously, he says a lot

1933
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: to me about the coaching that he's been getting and

1934
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: the faith and trust that he has in his coach

1935
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: is David Culley, the quarterbacks coach in particular, and of course,

1936
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: um the offensive coordinator Brian day Ball thank you. I mean,

1937
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 1: he obviously trusts what they tell him. He does what

1938
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 1: they tell him, I would think, and I think that

1939
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: says a lot about the group that they have working there, like, hey,

1940
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: let's go for a few more completions this week. Okay,

1941
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: let's see what we can do right. The cycle is

1942
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: that and that Yeah, the fact that you know, he

1943
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: attributed it to just a conscious decision and a game

1944
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: plan says a lot about what he's capable of when

1945
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: he makes a decision about his game and how fast

1946
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: you can improve. Interesting stuff and more. From the tweet sheet.

1947
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 1: On the Bill's biggest accomplishment in twenty eighteen, Nick Blake says,

1948
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: got to be the salary cap. I'm extremely happy about Alan,

1949
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: but being able to rebuild the offense at will this

1950
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: offseason is huge. Top D plus top offense. Oh, you

1951
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: already read that one. Did that AFC's champs next season,

1952
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: So I was gonna let you go. Sorry, the part

1953
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: of the AC champsc's champs. It catches your eye, doesn't it. Yes,

1954
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: let's see, it's been a while sipping the kool a

1955
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: the top. You didn't read this one. I didn't. The

1956
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: top two choices make this a very tough question. I

1957
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: think that being able to bite the bullet and develop

1958
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: johnsh Allen at the same time is magical. I would

1959
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 1: be willing to bet that if you ask this question

1960
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: after the free agency signing period, handling the cap may

1961
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: get more votes. A really good point, really good point.

1962
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 1: They're gonna have some resources to use during salary cap

1963
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: one that comes up in March, Because are they going

1964
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: to use them all. I don't know. I doubt that

1965
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna spend ninety million bucks because I don't think

1966
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 1: there's that much good guy, that many good guys out there,

1967
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: And you don't want to overspend. That's the one thing

1968
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: that I think, and I hope that this coaching staff

1969
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: and Brandon being in front office will stay disciplined. You

1970
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 1: don't want to overpay. You don't want to just spend

1971
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 1: it to spend it. You want to get the right guys.

1972
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: And that includes the draft picks as well. And you

1973
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 1: certainly don't want to go out there and with big

1974
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: right and you don't want to go out there and

1975
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,640
Speaker 1: well like the Jacksonville Jaguars, did you go out and

1976
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: you and you pay Marcel Daris, you'd take over that

1977
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: huge contract. You know, you find out he took it

1978
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: out of gear, you know. I mean, so now you're

1979
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: getting a guys playing half speed and you're paying him

1980
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: like an elite player, and that's that's not good. So

1981
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: the Bills have got to figure out a way to pick,

1982
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, the right guys, not just talented guys,

1983
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: but get value for the money that they're spending. And

1984
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: that's that's to me is huge and so I we'll see.

1985
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: But right now, I think for all of us. Yeah,

1986
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 1: ninety million, that's a number. I don't know who that

1987
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 1: is yet. Right, let's see some I'll get excited, right,

1988
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 1: I'll get excited when they signed two guys that are

1989
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 1: gonna play as well as Jordan and micro Hid. Right,

1990
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: when they get two guys at whatever position, right, two

1991
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: wide receivers that are going to play their positions as

1992
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: well as Jordan Poyor and Micah Hyde play, there's I'll

1993
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: get excited, right, yep, that will be that will spell

1994
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: good things for the bill's future. Let's take a phone

1995
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: call here, Ken in Batavia. Hello, Ken, go ahead, you're

1996
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: on the air with this. Yeah, this is can I.

1997
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think the biggest accomplishment was clearly saving

1998
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: a cap space. You know, it's such a big need

1999
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 1: for us, you know, the ability to bring a new talent.

2000
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: It's huge. Um, I think cutting Calvin Benjamin was critical. No,

2001
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: it's more than just a salary cap cut. We're setting

2002
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: the president showing that his effort is unacceptable to the

2003
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: rest of the room. Thank you all, hang off on list. Okay, Yeah,

2004
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: I know if that was a huge accomplishment cutting Calvin Benjamin,

2005
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 1: one might look at that and say, why was he

2006
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, here in the first place, and why did

2007
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 1: that turn out the way it did. It wasn't that

2008
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: much of a cap. He wasn't cut because of the

2009
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: salary cap. I think you're right about that. He was

2010
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 1: cut because they wanted to move on and let's other

2011
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 1: guys playing see what they had there wasn't producing. Yeah,

2012
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: and I think too it does send a message on

2013
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: some level, particularly if the message in the locker room

2014
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: was received as we perceive it outside the locker room,

2015
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: and you know out here in the general public. If

2016
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 1: if the message was hey, he wasn't getting it done,

2017
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't given a full effort, or he wasn't in

2018
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 1: the right spot mentally, He's done. If that's the reason,

2019
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: and that's the message that got through, I'm sure that

2020
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. The only thing is that message

2021
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: may have been sent earlier than it was right when

2022
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: was Calvin cutting too? Oh yeah? If you want to

2023
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: send a message and use him as as the guy

2024
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 1: to send that message, you might have done that sooner

2025
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:41,759
Speaker 1: than they did. I don't think they were willing to

2026
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: live with the void in their roster until until Robert

2027
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: Foster emerged. He didn't really emerge until after Benjamin was cut.

2028
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: But when they got to the point where they knew

2029
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: what Robert Foster was before they cut Benjamin. As soon

2030
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: as they realized what Foster could be or was gonna

2031
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: be or could give them, I think that's probably when

2032
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: they made Kevin was released with four games left to

2033
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: go before the Jets game. The home Jets can that.

2034
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, that's twelve games into the year, right, that's

2035
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 1: also like a couple of weeks after Robert Foster had

2036
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: that Jet game, right, Yeah, so I'm thinking, Okay, they're thinking, okay,

2037
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: can he do it every week? Let's see one more week.

2038
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 1: If he can give it to us one more week,

2039
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: then Kelvin Benjamin's done. And it's not only that did

2040
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: to Kelvin Benjamin, it was Andre Holmes as well. So

2041
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: they cleared the decks four games to go, they right

2042
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 1: said goodbye to the veteran receivers. Right, let's go with

2043
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 1: the young guys. Here's a call from Sean and Niagara Falls. Hello, Sean, welcome,

2044
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 1: how's it going, John, Steve? Great guys, Thanks se I'm

2045
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 1: good to talk with you. Good. I work well quickly

2046
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: To piggyback on what Steve said, I also agree that

2047
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 1: the willingness to also give um undrafted people like Foster Um,

2048
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: even like McCleod, even though he didn't produce, their ability

2049
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: to want to get on the field, and that hunger

2050
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 1: to want to get on the field and produce they

2051
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 1: want NFL contract, as opposed to Benjamin at Holmes who

2052
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 1: weren't producing. I also think that was a great tell

2053
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: on how this coaching stamp wants to work. But the

2054
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: reason for my call is I wanted to see what

2055
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 1: you guys thought in your take was on the optics

2056
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: of the NFL. If New England happened to lose to

2057
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: the Chargers this week and the Colds, who I will

2058
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 1: be rooting for, to also win, that leaves the AFC

2059
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: Championship game in LA in the thirty thousand. Wondering what

2060
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 1: you guys take is on that. Well, how the NFL

2061
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: perceives this, because I would assume secretly they're rooting for

2062
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: New England or Kansas City to win. Well, that's the thing.

2063
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Sean, here's what you gotta know. Certainly,

2064
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: there's no question that in certain situations, not only does

2065
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 1: it look bad like to have the Chargers in their

2066
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 1: stadium with twenty five or thirty thousand seats and having

2067
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: it be mostly having it be mostly whoever would be

2068
01:40:55,720 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: Indianapolis fans. Uh, it looks bad for a minute. The

2069
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 1: thing they're really were they wish was the case. They

2070
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: wish They wish that the Chargers were in a three

2071
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 1: hundred thousand seat stadium selling big money tickets to about

2072
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: a gazillion people who want to get in the stadium. Yeah,

2073
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 1: it's about money. That's the only That's what it's about.

2074
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 1: The league. And plus I'll tell you this, I know

2075
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: fans and conspiracy theorists and me too. I mean when

2076
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: I put my tinfoil hat on, I kind of do

2077
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: this once in a while too. When you think there's

2078
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: some big grand scheme to make orchestrate how these games go,

2079
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: there is not. There is not. These games are competitive,

2080
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: they are for real. They run the league, make sure

2081
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: they stay as fair and even keel on in every

2082
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: respects as humanly possible. They do not. Now they may

2083
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 1: know that they're going to get a financial winfall if

2084
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: the game is in New England rather than La Charger

2085
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: in StubHub. You know, but they are never gonna do

2086
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 1: anything to alter how that goes. They can, they can

2087
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: acknowledge the bottom line difference, but man oh man, they

2088
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 1: they don't care. But Sean, you're not suggesting that they're

2089
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: not gonna try to influence. Okay, thanks, Okay, he's not

2090
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 1: suggesting that will say this. You know what's number one

2091
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 1: on the end? I mean the image conscious NFL. Number

2092
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 1: one on their list is TV ratings? Which game will

2093
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: give us the best TV ratings? Yeah? Um? And number

2094
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: two if the game should happen to be in La,

2095
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game StubHub Center, you can bet your

2096
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,719
Speaker 1: bottom dollar there's going to be plenty of promos and

2097
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: coming back from breaks. What do you guys calling into

2098
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 1: the TV business where all they show you are pictures

2099
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 1: and video billboards of the construction of the new stadiums. Right,

2100
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 1: this is where the Chargers are going, the Charges and Rams.

2101
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 1: Take a look at this. It's going to be spectacular.

2102
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 1: They will hammer that home on that broadcast. Sure, so

2103
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: that you know that this is just a temporary setup.

2104
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: Now I gotta say this too, and we've talked about this.

2105
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: I loved the game that we did. It wasn't a

2106
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 1: good game for the Bills, but I love the vibe

2107
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere at StubHub Center. I really did. I

2108
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,640
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of a paired down, you know,

2109
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 1: get rid of all of the bologna and here's just

2110
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: a football game and a thirty five thousand seat stadium

2111
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 1: with people who are into it. I kind of liked it.

2112
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: I think it might be a cool atmosphere. But you're right,

2113
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: it will be filled with Colts fans. It will. And

2114
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation as well when we were talking

2115
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: about the television ratings and the and the revenue streams

2116
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 1: that the NFL enjoys. The percentage of revenue that comes

2117
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: from ticket sales is getting smaller and smaller percentage wise.

2118
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: Certainly the numbers are still remaining same, if not growing,

2119
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: because everything's growing exponentially, but the percentage of revenue that

2120
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 1: is caused by people actually sitting in the stadium is

2121
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 1: getting to be less and less a picture or less

2122
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 1: and less a piece of the pie. Attendance is less

2123
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: important maybe than it. And you're nice, and you and

2124
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: I theorize that new stadiums will be perhaps even smaller

2125
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 1: than currently so that you can make smaller stadium but

2126
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 1: higher priced tickets, more amenities. So you're actually like you're

2127
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: a guest of the teams rather than you're going to

2128
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what I mean, I know

2129
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: exactly what you mean. And when we had discussions earlier,

2130
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: this this show about the new Buffalo set up, whatever

2131
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: it is, renovated stadium, new stadium, don't be surprised if

2132
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 1: it's significantly smaller venue for the very reason you talk

2133
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 1: about it's a more exclusive ticket. You don't need seventy

2134
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 1: threat you can't get in, Yeah, how much you want

2135
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 1: to pay for that? And you know there's always that

2136
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 1: the people like, you know you can't get in They said, well,

2137
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 1: yeah I got in because I paid the money, or

2138
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 1: I you know, jumped through these hoops, or I did

2139
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 1: this or that or the other. You know, you have

2140
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 1: we have all these epic stories about even my family

2141
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: has epic stories about getting to, you know, the stadium

2142
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: for the old playoff games when we were playing and when.

2143
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: So for instance, it's a if it's a downtown stadium,

2144
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: the next one, what if it's only fifty five thousand seats,

2145
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: but you're sitting in a recliner. You know, people are like,

2146
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: oh okay, and you've got you know, you've got an

2147
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: open bar. Right, I mean, what's gonna happen? I mean,

2148
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 1: how much? How many amenities are we talking about? Certainly

2149
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 1: those are going to be that's a different kind of experience,

2150
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: but it could be better experience either. Right. It might

2151
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 1: not be a better experience, it might not be a

2152
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:07,640
Speaker 1: better as good an atmosphere, but certainly there's something in

2153
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: there where it says, you know what, if I'm paying

2154
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: this kind of money, I want to get taken care of,

2155
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: and the league is and the league of the teams

2156
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: are gonna say, okay, maybe, but we're only gonna have like,

2157
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, fifty thousand seats available or you know, or whatever.

2158
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:21,759
Speaker 1: Maybe like a stubbub, it's only gonna be thirty thousand seats.

2159
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a theater where you can put

2160
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 1: your feet up, you know. Yeah, I mean I don't

2161
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 1: think that's where it's going. I think I think there's

2162
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: a long way away from that. But you know, you

2163
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 1: kind of start to think about stuff like that. Gary Myers,

2164
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 1: you know him a new York sports writer. He tweets

2165
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 1: this out about a game in LA this weekend, the

2166
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 1: LA Coliseum on Saturday night, eight fifteen, the home of

2167
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Rams game. This is his tweet. I think

2168
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 1: there might be some exaggeration here, but Gary Myers says

2169
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 1: the La Colisseum seats ninety three thousand, six hundred, and

2170
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: I think this is him saying this. At least fifty

2171
01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 1: thousand will be Cowboys fans Saturday night. Fifty thousand of

2172
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 1: the ninety three thousand, he says, when the Rams were

2173
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis for two decades, a whole generation of

2174
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: fans in the LA area attended Cowboys training camp and Oxnard.

2175
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: Why are they America's team? Read my book. It's a

2176
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: promo for his book. But more than half of the

2177
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 1: fans Saturday night in LA are going to be Cowboys fans.

2178
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: Does that sound right? Maybe not because of training camp? Right?

2179
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: Just they are. As much as it makes me want

2180
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: to vomit National French, they are America's team. They might

2181
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 1: have fifty thousand. I don't know about more than half,

2182
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,600
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a lot of Cowboys fans in

2183
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 1: the Collseum on Saturday night. Yeah, and it's been that way,

2184
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: not just for the Rams, but obviously for the charge Chargers. Yeah,

2185
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 1: I mean both those. They went out there and it's

2186
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: a quintessential. You can call away you want. I don't

2187
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 1: want to get ugly, but it's a it's a money grab.

2188
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 1: They knew it's a huge market for television. You can

2189
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: jack up the prices because everything's expensive out there, people

2190
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 1: expect to pay it. You can have a whole spectrum

2191
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 1: of everything from a two dollars seat to a two

2192
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: thousand dollars seat or more twenty thousand dollars seat, and

2193
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: you can and you can have your franchise enjoy the

2194
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: benefits of it. And now they've got two franchises there.

2195
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing to see how that franchise

2196
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 1: does when local people have to support it, when it's

2197
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: not that big a deal to go out there anymore,

2198
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 1: when it's not the destination that StubHub Center is. You

2199
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I don't know. I I know

2200
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 1: that the players and the and the coaches and you

2201
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 1: feel it, you go, I mean, you've seen highlights. The

2202
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 1: Chargers in StubHub Field is the most amazing spectacle and

2203
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: it's it is an absolute consequence of a poorly run

2204
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: franchise making poor business decisions, with a poor relationship with

2205
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 1: the city that they were since they were their inception,

2206
01:47:56,520 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 1: ending up in a small soccer stadium with eighty five

2207
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 1: percent of there the people in the stands are for

2208
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 1: the other team and a home game. I mean, it's

2209
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,600
Speaker 1: it's a total chain of consequences that have happened to

2210
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers that are now the LA Chargers.

2211
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 1: That is makes you look at it and go, what

2212
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: the heck man? They will tell you, and I don't

2213
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 1: necessarily agree with this, they will tell you that it's

2214
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: all gonna be worth it when they get in that

2215
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: new play pain. So it's all gonna be worth it

2216
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 1: for three people that the members got Fanos family. We're

2217
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: worth it for three people. And they like one of

2218
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: the analysts, and it's it's it's easy to say. You

2219
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: go out there and one of the analysts doing one

2220
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 1: of the Charger game goes, maw, where's all the where's

2221
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 1: all the Charger fans? And they're in San Diego. You're right,

2222
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:42,839
Speaker 1: They're not in LA. They're in San Diego. Yep. Uh

2223
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's just here's Mike and Oakfill

2224
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: with some thoughts on this. Mike, Okfill Ontario. Go ahead, Mike,

2225
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 1: Hello guys, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure well

2226
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: before I start, Murph, I love how objective you are

2227
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to the bills in the NFL, and

2228
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: I just want to add my vote mister Tasker in

2229
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Okay, got your Mike. Wait minute,

2230
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: Mike gear in Ontario. I don't think we count Canadian vote.

2231
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: You're not registered to vote. I'm gonna find that offensive.

2232
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, min Go ahead. My brother lives in Long

2233
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: Island and Tasker's kid plays in hail him, So I

2234
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 1: guess all right. You know what, with the exchange, we'll

2235
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: give you like two thirds of a vote. You're the

2236
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 1: ugly American two thirds of a vote. Sorry, my partner,

2237
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: the ugly American. Go ahead. I don't take offense. My

2238
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 1: brother is the same way, but now American, so he's

2239
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 1: an Americans. Anyways, back back to the Chargers do win

2240
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game, could they not host the game

2241
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 1: at Ella Coliseum or another college stadium? No, I don't, well,

2242
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,880
Speaker 1: I guess I guess there's a chance for that. That's

2243
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: a good question, and if the league wanted to step in.

2244
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question that the Chargers have no

2245
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: historical allegiance to stub Hub, and there's no question that

2246
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 1: they could go to another venue if the league could

2247
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:04,639
Speaker 1: make it happen. I mean, let's face it, the league's

2248
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 1: the eight hundred pound goerrilla. If they wanted to flex

2249
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 1: their muscle. I mean, they got a game in Detroit.

2250
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: They got a Buffalo home game in Detroit in the

2251
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 1: matter of forty eight hours. But you know what, I

2252
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 1: think that I'm wondering what stee things. I don't think

2253
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: it matters to the league how many people will be there.

2254
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 1: I really don't. It's about TV ratings. It's about who's

2255
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: gonna If you ask the powers that be and Park

2256
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 1: having NFL officers right now, what are you looking for

2257
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: this Sunday from these matchups, They're gonna say, we're looking

2258
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: for this game because this will have the biggest TV ratings.

2259
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 1: And you know what, if you if you ask, if

2260
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 1: you ask the owners of the Charters, they wouldn't have

2261
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: any issues of going into LA Coliseum because it's more seats, unless, yeah,

2262
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: it might be more seats. But in the LA Coliseum.

2263
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 1: Think about this, for thirty five thousand seats, you could

2264
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: charge a thousand dollars a ticket for an AFC championship game,

2265
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: and in the Coliseum it's only thirty bucks a seat.

2266
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: You might get the same bumping revenue by staying in

2267
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 1: StubHub and just jacking the prices up because somebody's gonna

2268
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: pay it. Yeah. No, you're right, Steve, such a good point.

2269
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they can charge whatever they want for those

2270
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: seats because it's not a set in stone thing yet,

2271
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Listen, guys,

2272
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to listen. Thank you, Mike. We

2273
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 1: appreciate it, even though I insulted his country of origin twice.

2274
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Well you didn't, you were, You were good natured, just

2275
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: just right. It's my middle name. Nothing nothing, there's nothing

2276
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 1: sinister about Phil on the line from Rochester. Hello, Phil,

2277
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, how are you doing today? Great? I don't

2278
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: know what they accomplished? Must this year last year playoff? Yeah? Yeah, Phil?

2279
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 1: Do you think this team this year would have beaten

2280
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: last year's team if they played. I'm not sore real either.

2281
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this. I think they would.

2282
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 1: I think they might. I think it might. I think

2283
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: they would. Actually, Actually, what else did you have, Phil?

2284
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 1: That was just about it? Everybody? I hope they do well, Yeah,

2285
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 1: well I don't. How did you say that where they no,

2286
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: that's legitimate, felt it's true. The bottom line, Yes, they

2287
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 1: didn't win as many games they did a year ago,

2288
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 1: and then and they're they're six and ten team because

2289
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 1: that's what they earned. So you can you certainly were

2290
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: not here saying, hey, the greatest franchise ever, you know,

2291
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 1: and they've now they're proving it. They were six and ten.

2292
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 1: But they did do things that are necessary I think

2293
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: for a lot of people moving forward, to move away

2294
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 1: from a seventeen year drought in the playoffs, from a

2295
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: team that is continuously washed through coaches who did were

2296
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:38,759
Speaker 1: not successful, to a franchise that looks like not only

2297
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: would it be a franchise that has a chance to

2298
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: be competitive every year, but be a playoff team most

2299
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 1: years and also um be one that year in year

2300
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 1: out has a lot of optimism both moving forward and

2301
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: then the current in the current season. So I think

2302
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 1: they did lay the foundation for a lot of things

2303
01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 1: going forward, even though on the field they were just

2304
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Speaker 1: a six win team. Thanks for your call. Let's go

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01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 1: to Bob and cheek the waga. Hello Bob, you're on

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01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: the air afternoon, gentlemen, hi U. Two things to start

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01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: where I'd like to put Steve in the hall without

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01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: it out And I didn't do't look at me. I

2309
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't bring this up. You look at me. I didn't.

2310
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,560
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Bob. He's looking at me like we're gonna

2311
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 1: this vote thing for We're gonna take that off. Go ahead, Bob.

2312
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 1: And and i'd also like to see Kyle Williams on

2313
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 1: the Wall of Fame. We can start that. My big

2314
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 1: thing is h the stadium issue. As long as they

2315
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 1: keep the politicians out of it, they're fine. Steve won't remember,

2316
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: but I'm sure Murph World. The years ago, I think

2317
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 1: Contrell was going to build the stadium on his own Yeah,

2318
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 1: his own money, Lancaster, yep. And the politicians turned it

2319
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 1: down and we up giving any control sixty three million

2320
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 1: dollars anyway in a last room, that's right, because they yeah,

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01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 1: they signed a deal that wasn't done. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

2322
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: So it's ridiculous, and to put it downtown is absolutely insane.

2323
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get downtown in the good weather,

2324
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 1: But how you're going to do in the bad weather?

2325
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 1: You can get downtown. Come on, Bob, you can get downtown.

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01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: Where do you live? Get anywhere you want. You can

2327
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 1: keep the walk, Come on, Bob, you can get from

2328
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: You can get from Orchard Park to Tonawanda in thirty

2329
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah. Look, they got the stadium survey out there.

2330
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. You took a look at it.

2331
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what it says. I don't know what

2332
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,879
Speaker 1: it means. I don't know what impact it has. Everybody's

2333
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: got an opinion about the stadium. You can't keep the

2334
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: politicians out of it, Bob, because you're gonna need some

2335
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: some public money, and they're the people who control the

2336
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 1: public purse drink. So I think, look, survey or not,

2337
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: the community is going to have to come to some

2338
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 1: sort of consensus, right, this is what we want, this

2339
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 1: is where we want it, This what we're willing to spend.

2340
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: Does that survey move that down the road a little

2341
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 1: bit in those in that regard? I don't know. I

2342
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 1: don't know what they do with the results. I don't

2343
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 1: know where they go as they said, I haven't seen

2344
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 1: the survey. I think it's got to be a public decision,

2345
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: but all elements of the public, right, including politicians, the

2346
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 1: people who determine where the public money. Well, here's the thing.

2347
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: I think the poll that they're out there with this

2348
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 1: that they're putting out, they're gonna try and find out

2349
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 1: how much money fans are gonna be willing to spend

2350
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:34,879
Speaker 1: week to week, year to year on tickets and therefore

2351
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 1: get an idea of how much debt they can put

2352
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 1: into this stadium and pay off without dipping into other

2353
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 1: parts of the of the revenue. So they're going to

2354
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 1: find out how big a stadium they can build given

2355
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 1: what their revenue streams are going to be, and how

2356
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: much they can pay off and how long it's going

2357
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 1: to take. It's just like building a house. What are

2358
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 1: your monthly payments going to be? How are you going

2359
01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: to pay for him? Are you going to be able

2360
01:55:58,200 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: to do it? And this is how big a house

2361
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 1: you can afford? And that may be as big a

2362
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 1: question um as there is right now. There's certainly other

2363
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: a million other questions they're gonna pop up, but they're

2364
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: just right now they're trying to find out how much

2365
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: what kind of payments they can make on a new house.

2366
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:16,640
Speaker 1: And they're finding trying to find out whether it's best

2367
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: to fix this house and live with it already paid for,

2368
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 1: or to build a new one that's all a lot,

2369
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot nicer and hopefully make the payments on it.

2370
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 1: And that's that's where they're at. I'm gonna take a break.

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01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaid of Health from

2372
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Right

2373
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: that went nowhere. We just talked for five minutes and

2374
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 1: went absolutely nowhere. Michael, this is the life we've chosen.

2375
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: Last five minutes gone. We'll we forget those five minutes back.

2376
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Taskier here until three. We apologize us. Johnston,

2377
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 1: who is busy, I would think as the general manager

2378
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: of the San Diego um Common Commanders San Antonio, Commanders

2379
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: of the all the Alliance of American Football, unable to

2380
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 1: be with us today. We'll trying to get them up

2381
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 1: some other time. The show can't take five minutes for us.

2382
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: I think that's cool. I really think in It starts

2383
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: February nights. I think the Alliance of American football. I

2384
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 1: think we're all gonna be watching that. I think it's

2385
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 1: gonna be really compelling. Yeah, because it sounds like they

2386
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: got it together, you know what I mean. Yeah, it

2387
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 1: sounds like they're kind of you know, the people who

2388
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: were running it. They got it together. Yeah, they're they

2389
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 1: they're really on it. And plus they they're doing it

2390
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 1: with the full blessings of the NFL. They're doing it

2391
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 1: with with a schedule that coincides with the NFL for

2392
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 1: the express purpose of developing players for the NFL. That

2393
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 1: in and of itself is something different than any other

2394
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 1: sports league has ever had. You know, it's a minor

2395
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: league football, and it's doing it on a professional level.

2396
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 1: And all those guys are getting paid a good buck

2397
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 1: to give it a shot, and they're getting you know,

2398
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 1: they're getting paid for their time and for their risk

2399
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 1: and for their careers and for the chance. And for them,

2400
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity, a big opportunity to play at a

2401
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 1: higher level in a different environment that is more like

2402
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 1: the NFL that gives him a chance. So I think

2403
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 1: in February ninth, it's going to be a lot of

2404
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 1: fun to see eight teams and they're going, Hey, UM,

2405
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 1: let's take a couple of phone calls here as we

2406
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 1: make our way up towards the top of the hour,

2407
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 1: we'll go to Tim and Tonawana, Hello, Tim, Welcome to

2408
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:34,760
Speaker 1: the show. You're on the air. Hi, guys, how are

2409
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: we doing today? Okay? Good? I thought the biggest accomplishment

2410
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 1: on the offense for the Bills was Josh Allen being

2411
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: able to run the ball like he did. Um. The

2412
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:48,880
Speaker 1: only part is, I don't think we want finish our

2413
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: biggest accomplishment. I think I understand double edged sword. Yeah,

2414
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: you're right. It's not ideal having your quarterback lead you

2415
01:58:56,200 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: in rushing, correct, Tim, exactly, Yeah, it's not ideal, but

2416
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 1: you know what, it's nice to have in your pocket.

2417
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: I still think this, I've said this before. Josh Allen

2418
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 1: is the closest thing I've seen to a guy like

2419
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 1: Cam Newton in the league coming into the league. Certainly,

2420
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 1: he's got a lot to learn as a pocket passer

2421
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton did when he came in. But even now,

2422
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's a much better pocket passer because you just

2423
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 1: as a running quarterback and Josh Allen, you'll say, is

2424
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 1: the same way they get tired of getting hit. They'd

2425
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 1: much rather stand in the pocket and make throws than

2426
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 1: run around and take shots. And I think Josh Allen

2427
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 1: will learn that as well. But I do know this,

2428
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 1: Cam Newton at his best is and Josh Allen as well,

2429
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 1: the two of them, they are the best short yardage

2430
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 1: goal line running backs in the National Football League because

2431
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 1: they can drop back and throw it and the defense

2432
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 1: has to respect it, and that leaves them space to

2433
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 1: jump forward and get a half a yard in a

2434
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 1: spot where they really need it. So it's a great

2435
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 1: thing to have in your back pocket. But you're right, Tim,

2436
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 1: it's not ideal. How many people do you think Josh

2437
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 1: Allen will run into this offseason, maybe early in the

2438
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 1: off season, before they come back here in April. How

2439
02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: many people do you think they'll run into? And let's

2440
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 1: say to him, dude, you don't want to run like

2441
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: that anymore that year. I saw what you did. Great year, congratulations,

2442
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 1: but you won't be around. I bet. I bet that's

2443
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 1: a question for him when they come back, and a

2444
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: lot are gonna tell him, dude, don't do that. I

2445
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 1: see what you did. He'll get so sick of it.

2446
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,520
Speaker 1: But they make a point, and there maybe people who

2447
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:31,840
Speaker 1: care about him, former coaches, former teammates, friends, family members. Dude,

2448
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 1: don't run that much next year, do me a favor. Right,

2449
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 1: they'll hear that a lot. Yeah. Do you really think

2450
02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 1: he needs to hear it? Do you think he knows it? Yeah? Okay,

2451
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 1: why did you run so much yet? Because he doesn't?

2452
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 1: You don't know what else to do. You got the

2453
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 1: ball in your hand. You got the ball in your

2454
02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 1: hand and there's no place to throw it. That's what

2455
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 1: you do. If you were his uncle, wouldn't you say

2456
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 1: it to him? I say it once? Okay, that's all.

2457
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:57,480
Speaker 1: That's all I'll take. But he don't need to hear

2458
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 1: it from Charlie six Pack and Joey Bag of Donuts.

2459
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 1: Hear it. Whether I know it's gonna be, it's probably

2460
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a thousand times too many. The only person

2461
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 1: he needs to hear it from is Brian Dable and

2462
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson and Matt Barkley. But there might be people

2463
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 1: who tell them that that it registers after a while.

2464
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 1: That's all, and that's just said. That's what I'm saying.

2465
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 1: Those three guys that are probably registered with him. There

2466
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 1: might be others and you think, and you don't think teammates,

2467
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:27,800
Speaker 1: you don't think somebody was telling him that after the

2468
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 1: Charger game, the first start of his professional career. Yeah,

2469
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:37,840
Speaker 1: so that's enough. That's enough. Patrick and Los Angeles. Hello, Patrick,

2470
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey guys, how's it going? Okay? Hey,

2471
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 1: I just wanted to address the point that is he

2472
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 1: brought up earlier. I usually always agree with Steve. Of

2473
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 1: course you do. Why wouldn't you yet not get to

2474
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 1: why you really called Patrick? I love the exclusivity as Subhub.

2475
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 1: I went to. I went to the Peterman game last

2476
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 1: it's known now as the Peterman game. That is awesome.

2477
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 1: That is Oh Patrick, I'm sorry that I was there

2478
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:17,200
Speaker 1: at the Peterman game. Oh all right, go ahead, Patrick.

2479
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 1: What do you remember about the exclusivity of StubHub. I sat,

2480
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, I was sixteen rows up on the you know,

2481
02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 1: on the Bills side. I sat right behind O'Leary's family,

2482
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 1: who are great people. I had awesome seats. It was

2483
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:36,000
Speaker 1: an amazing experience. Um, but this with the team winning,

2484
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 1: you're not you know, you're not getting thick of anymore

2485
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 1: not happening. So what they did was they created exclusivity

2486
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 1: to make it very marketable. And that what I'm saying

2487
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 1: is is like we got to the stadium. It was

2488
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars to part whoa, oh yeah,

2489
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:58,440
Speaker 1: there you go. How many cars could you get in

2490
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 1: there for a hundred fifty just one? Did one? Parking? Wow?

2491
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 1: What we do is my son and I turned around

2492
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:07,600
Speaker 1: and left and we parked and we ubered in for

2493
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 1: six dollars. There you go. Yeah, there you go. Listen.

2494
02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm all with you, Patrick, and I listen. You go.

2495
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 1: You go to uh Foxborough and it's it's you know,

2496
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 1: it's not hundred and fifty, no, but it's seventy five.

2497
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 1: It's fifty to seventy five bucks to park there, and

2498
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:25,040
Speaker 1: you're still a mile and a half away. As it's

2499
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 1: it's big money. Go ahead, Patrick, what else in the

2500
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere? Still too? I've been to Boston and

2501
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:32,520
Speaker 1: I've stayed in the hotel where all the players end

2502
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 1: up staying out there like I traveled for a living,

2503
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 1: and um, it's it's just to me, is that if

2504
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 1: we can downsize things. Buffalo has lost some population, and

2505
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,520
Speaker 1: if we can downsize the stadium to sixty thousand and

2506
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 1: fifty five thousand and make it a more intimate and

2507
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 1: raucous experience and raise the level, like I'm not talking

2508
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:55,360
Speaker 1: about the pagoulas raising the prices to make it, you know,

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02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 1: an unachievable dream to go to a game. What I'm

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Speaker 1: saying is, it's just like, if we need to eliminate

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Speaker 1: a couple of the upper rows, let's do it might happen.

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02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. And again there's no plan on paper

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02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:09,560
Speaker 1: yet for that to happen, but it might happen. I

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02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: think that's a logical um way for that to proceed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Pet if they need to make it

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02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 1: a more raucous experience, it's pretty raucous as it is, right,

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02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:22,520
Speaker 1: I want to go down that road. I was gonna

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02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:25,400
Speaker 1: bring up the flaming tables, but yeah, yeah, I mean

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02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:30,120
Speaker 1: it is. I am totally it is. It is a

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02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 1: it is a unique experience even now uh here and

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02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:37,720
Speaker 1: it and it's because of the tradition and history and

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02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, and the nostalgic part of being a Bills

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02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 1: fan here in Buffalo, growing up in this city and

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02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 1: being here and is part of the heritage and a

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02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 1: lot of people they do the same thing that they

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02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 1: do because their parents brought them here, their families brought

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02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:55,160
Speaker 1: their friends and their buddies. Started when they were kids,

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02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 1: and they've grown into it. It's their place, it's a

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02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 1: it's a it's a public tradure to be out here

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02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:05,480
Speaker 1: and in this stadium, no question about it. But for

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02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:08,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people, not everybody, and some people we've

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02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 1: had and here's the problem with We've already had people

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02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 1: called in the show say you can't put the stadium downtown,

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02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: it'd be catastrophic, and then other people say it's got

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02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:24,400
Speaker 1: to be downtown, that's where it belongs. So who are

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02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:28,280
Speaker 1: you going to listen to? You know, I mean, I

2537
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:30,680
Speaker 1: don't know. That's it's just crazy. And I get this thing,

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02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 1: and I'm totally into it. Having it be a more

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02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:38,920
Speaker 1: difficult ticket to attain, where all of a sudden in

2540
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo you've got a string of two hundred sellouts because

2541
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 1: you can't get a ticket. You know, it seems backward,

2542
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:50,440
Speaker 1: but you know, look at lambeau Field. They sell out

2543
02:05:50,480 --> 02:05:52,800
Speaker 1: every field in every game in that stadium, and they've

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02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 1: added seats over the years, and it's a different venue

2545
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: than it was when it first started. So I don't

2546
02:05:58,200 --> 02:06:00,920
Speaker 1: know where the happy medium is. But how big is

2547
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: how big is too big? And how small is too small?

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02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 1: Time now for NFL True and Falls, brought to you

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02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 1: by Yankees Fancy New York's artists in Geez, here we

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02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:11,320
Speaker 1: go a couple of NFL issues. Number one two or falls.

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02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 1: Chargers have road field advantage Los Angeles seven and one

2552
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 1: on the road this year. They want at Baltimore last Sunday.

2553
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:19,720
Speaker 1: They're going across the country again this Sunday to play

2554
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots on Sunday at one oh five pm Eastern time.

2555
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 1: Chargers have road field advantage true Falls, I'll say true,

2556
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 1: they're pretty good on the road. They're a veteran team

2557
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,120
Speaker 1: that it does not get a big home field advantage,

2558
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 1: as we've just got done talking about. I do think

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02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 1: they're a good road team that gives them a bit

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02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:40,280
Speaker 1: of an edge, at least somewhat of an edge this

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02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:43,200
Speaker 1: Sunday in New England. Yes, absolutely, they are very They're

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02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:45,760
Speaker 1: the best road team in the NFL this year for

2563
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:48,280
Speaker 1: good reason. I think I don't know how much of

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02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:52,200
Speaker 1: it you can attribute to their their poor facility at home,

2565
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:56,920
Speaker 1: but certainly on the road they are good. They win

2566
02:06:57,080 --> 02:07:00,120
Speaker 1: games and they go on the road, it doesn't scare them.

2567
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:03,760
Speaker 1: They went into Seattle and won there this year, another

2568
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 1: playoff team. They're tough to beat. Good teams always travel

2569
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 1: better than bad teams, and defensive teams usually travel better.

2570
02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 1: But when you've got a veteran quarterback who's gifted like

2571
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is, and they got both sides of the

2572
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 1: ball playing, well, hey, they don't lose on the road.

2573
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 1: They are they haven't lost thus far this year, and

2574
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: you got to give him the advantage. There's something to

2575
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 1: see this year. This is their year. I think they're

2576
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 1: gonna If they're ever gonna win one under the current

2577
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 1: conditions of the league, this is the year they could

2578
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:36,520
Speaker 1: do it. Part two, NFL True or false. The Cardinals

2579
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 1: will trade Josh Rosen and draft Kyler Murray number one.

2580
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:41,800
Speaker 1: A lot of this came as a result of a

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02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 1: piece of video from last fall. I believe it was

2582
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 1: with Cliff Kingsbury talking about if he were in position

2583
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 1: to do so, he would certainly draft Kyler Murray, the

2584
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 1: quarterback from Oregon, number one. Now he is in position Oklahoma, Yeah,

2585
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:58,200
Speaker 1: now he is in a position to do that, and

2586
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:01,000
Speaker 1: people are throwing that right back in his face. Now, well,

2587
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:04,040
Speaker 1: there you are. But the Cardinals will trade Josh Rosen

2588
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:06,920
Speaker 1: and draft Kyler Murray number one. I say false. In fact,

2589
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:08,920
Speaker 1: I saw it. I'm not gonna be able to find

2590
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,400
Speaker 1: it here, but I did see a tweet or somebody

2591
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:16,600
Speaker 1: talked to the Chargers people and or the Cardinals people

2592
02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:18,840
Speaker 1: rather and they say, no, we're not trading. Uh. Josh

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02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 1: Rosen is not? Is he not a better prospect than

2594
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? Rosen had a rough year, but overall, isn't

2595
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 1: he a much better quarterback prospect than Kyler Murray? I

2596
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,600
Speaker 1: think he is despite his rough year. That's false. Yeah,

2597
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 1: I think it's false as well. I think Josh Rosen

2598
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 1: is still a really good pro prospect. He's going to

2599
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 1: get some help around him. Kyler Murray, while he is

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02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:42,440
Speaker 1: a great athlete and really good college quarterback, he's five ten.

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02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 1: I think that gives him some limitations. And take it

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02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 1: from a guy who's five to nine. It's tough to

2603
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 1: play in in a giant man's game, and it's and

2604
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it can't be done. Doug Flutie was

2605
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 1: about that height. He's a little taller than me, but

2606
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:03,080
Speaker 1: he was it can probably can be done, will be

2607
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 1: done in the future, and never say never. But I

2608
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:07,120
Speaker 1: don't think Kyler Murray is the guy that's gonna do it.

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02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they're they're trading Josh Rosen at all.

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02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:11,760
Speaker 1: There's no way. Ian Rappidport less than an hour ago

2611
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 1: tweet checked with a high ranking Arizona cardinal source who

2612
02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 1: called this notion of trading quarterback Josh Rosen quote ludicrous,

2613
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 1: not happening. I don't think it's happening. I think he's crazy.

2614
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:23,840
Speaker 1: He's a good prospect, it's crazy. He's got a lot

2615
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:26,800
Speaker 1: of talent. He's an okay talent. He's an ok prospect.

2616
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. No, no, no, oh, yeah, he's bets a

2617
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 1: better prospect than Kyler Murray for sure. Josh Rosen is

2618
02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:35,000
Speaker 1: still a good pro prospect, and he's a pro player,

2619
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:37,480
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of upside. He hasn't played

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02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 1: well yet, but I don't think they're anywhere close to

2621
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 1: giving up on him in Arizona after the kind of

2622
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 1: season they put together. All Right, there you go. NFL

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02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:47,680
Speaker 1: True or False brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New

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02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 1: York's artists and Cheese, Steve and I coming back for more.

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02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, One Bill's Live from One Bill's

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02:09:52,160 --> 02:10:09,680
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Well, what have we learned

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02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 1: my favorite guests, joined us. He is a columnist now

2632
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 1: for The Undefeated dot com. He appears on ESPN. Played

2633
02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:30,959
Speaker 1: seven years in the league as a defensive back. Dominique

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02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:32,640
Speaker 1: Foxworth thrown to a story a couple of months or

2635
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:35,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago about what should go into

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02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 1: hiring a head coach in the NFL, particularly a proposed

2637
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:40,440
Speaker 1: this week. With all the coaching moves made this week,

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02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:44,040
Speaker 1: Dominique Foxworth has some specific thoughts on what makes a

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02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:48,160
Speaker 1: good head coach in the NFL. The logic behind the

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02:10:48,160 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 1: way we hired coaches is a little flawed in that

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02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 1: we try to find a coordinator who was the best,

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02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:55,200
Speaker 1: but the skills that are required to be a good

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02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:57,560
Speaker 1: coordinator are not the skills that are required to be

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02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:00,840
Speaker 1: a good head coach, so they coach is the only

2645
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:04,080
Speaker 1: person who can impact and cultivate a culture. And I

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02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:06,240
Speaker 1: think that is all the soft skills that we don't

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02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 1: really think are that important. But building relationships and building

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02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 1: bridges between the coaches and the players, and building bridges

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02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:15,320
Speaker 1: between the players and each other and the team and

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02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:17,880
Speaker 1: the fans, like those things are the things that I

2651
02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: think drive teams to work harder than other teams and

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02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:24,200
Speaker 1: prepare better than other teams and win games. And that's

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02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:26,280
Speaker 1: how you have the same success in his league with

2654
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 1: a coach like that. He's right, He's absolutely right, Dominique Foxworth. Again,

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02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 1: schemes are somewhat important, but being the head coach means

2656
02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 1: you are in church of everything. See, you were an

2657
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 1: agreement on this, and I think the Bills are well

2658
02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:42,600
Speaker 1: positioned here. Looked at the trend in the league over

2659
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 1: the last two days now has been hire the hot

2660
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:47,880
Speaker 1: young offensive coordinator. Okay, go ahead, you might get lucky,

2661
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:50,160
Speaker 1: you might be a good head coach. And I understand

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02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:53,400
Speaker 1: why teams do that because that's the talent pool available.

2663
02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:56,040
Speaker 1: But that's not what makes it a head coach successful,

2664
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:58,400
Speaker 1: and it's being a hot young coordinator of all plays.

2665
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:00,840
Speaker 1: It is a coordinate a quarterback in league, no question

2666
02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:02,600
Speaker 1: about it. And you gotta have a guy to handle it.

2667
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:04,680
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean only an offensive guy can coach

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02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: him up. Yeah, and there's a lot. John Harbaugh is

2669
02:12:08,440 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 1: a great coach. He's a special teams coordinator. There's Bill

2670
02:12:11,200 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 1: Belichick was a defensive coordinator who can argue with his success.

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02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:19,160
Speaker 1: John Fox, who who was with Denver, with Chicago, with

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02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:22,360
Speaker 1: Carolina got Carolina to a Super Bowl, was a great coach.

2673
02:12:22,360 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 1: He was a defensive coach. There's exceptions to everything. So

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02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:30,520
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think we're well positioned. Sean

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02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:33,080
Speaker 1: McDermott has handled this staff and this culture and their

2676
02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:36,960
Speaker 1: development I think in an outstanding way. And there are

2677
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:39,600
Speaker 1: examples all over the league. You don't have to be

2678
02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:43,280
Speaker 1: a young quarterback whisperer to be a successful head coach.

2679
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:46,280
Speaker 1: And earlier this week he'd appeared that that was whatever

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02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:49,480
Speaker 1: everybody was doing. You couldn't you couldn't hire anybody who

2681
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:53,080
Speaker 1: was not that. Yeah, yeah, that's nuts. Heym on Twitter today,

2682
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:55,280
Speaker 1: we asked the question, and on the phone lines, we

2683
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 1: asked the question about the Bills. What was their biggest

2684
02:12:57,200 --> 02:13:00,760
Speaker 1: accomplishment in two eighteen the two thousand in eighteen season

2685
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 1: your responses, Most of you thought that The Bill's biggest

2686
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:08,720
Speaker 1: accomplishment this year was drafting and developing their potential franchise quarterback.

2687
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 1: In fact, sixty four percent said that, twenty six percent

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02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:14,000
Speaker 1: said they bit the bullet on the salary cap that

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02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:16,920
Speaker 1: was big, seven percent saying, you know they didn't accomplish

2690
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:21,080
Speaker 1: that much. Three percent said said that improving the defense.

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Speaker 1: All right, tomorrow show looks like it'll be pretty good. J. P.

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Speaker 1: Lassman's going to join us talk about the National Championship game.

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02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 1: He had a role to play in Clemson's victory. Believe

2694
02:13:28,640 --> 02:13:32,280
Speaker 1: it or Not. Talk with JP tomorrow. Production assistants George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Coltnick Thomas Honalder, Kelly Rude, JJ Turino, Kevin Krgis,

2696
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Speaker 1: James robol Our, producer Jay Harris. We will see you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at twelve noon with the Friday edition of One

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