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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: it going. On a Wednesday, rain drops are falling on

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Speaker 1: But it's Chris Brown and Steve task You're here with

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Speaker 1: the players, but not for us and not for you.

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Speaker 1: We've got some work to do here and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: And there was one thing that I wanted to bring

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Speaker 1: being a father himself. When you are the father of

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Speaker 1: part and it just organically happens in terms of a

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Speaker 1: Why do we do it? Well? I get I could

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Speaker 1: too good to leave on your practice squad. So choices

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Speaker 1: are there for you. At one Bills Live, we gave

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Speaker 1: you some position choices where we believe there is some

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Speaker 1: surplus of talent that is probably NFL worthy, you know,

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Speaker 1: regular season roster worthy wide receiver, running back, defensive line,

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Speaker 1: or defensive back. So feel free to weigh in on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet or give us a call eight oh three,

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty Which position would you go heavier on at the

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Speaker 1: expense of another in getting the Bills roster down to

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Speaker 1: the required fifty three. I don't think there's any question, Steve,

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Speaker 1: that wide receiver is going to be a popular answer.

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Speaker 1: I think defensive line could very easily be a popular

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Speaker 1: answer because of the surplus they have at end and

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Speaker 1: even running back, because got two draft choices approven veteran

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Speaker 1: free agent in Brita, and then you got a young

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Speaker 1: up and coming kid and Antonio Williams, although he's been sidelined,

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Speaker 1: a special team's core player in Taiwan and Taiwan Jones, Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could do that. I tend to lean towards the

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Speaker 1: defensive line. I think they got enough guys there, they

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Speaker 1: rotate him. All those guys are going to contribute. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: they need to play. But if you've got ten guys

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Speaker 1: playing one position or four positions, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you need them to be versatile, not only moving in

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Speaker 1: and out on the defensive line, but also on special

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Speaker 1: teams and off special team I asked coach Frasier about

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Speaker 1: this in his press conference the other day. How do

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Speaker 1: you weigh the great deal of position flexibility that you

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Speaker 1: have in the defensive ends on this roster, knowing they

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Speaker 1: can kick inside and play in there pretty capably. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they're more than capable in pass rushing situations. But how

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Speaker 1: do you weigh the add into how the numbers work

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Speaker 1: out on the defensive line as a whole. And he said,

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Speaker 1: I don't consider it a problem, but it is a

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Speaker 1: challenge to weave your way through all of that, because

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Speaker 1: while it sounds exciting to have maybe five ends or

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Speaker 1: who knows, six ends, and five of them can kick

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Speaker 1: inside and play defensive tackle on passing downs when you

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Speaker 1: want to go with a turbo package or whatever, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to leave yourself vulnerable by not having enough

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Speaker 1: beefcakes in there to stop the run on the other downs.

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Speaker 1: And so there has to be this formula for making

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Speaker 1: sure that you've covered all your bases there so you're

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Speaker 1: not left shorthanded the last place you want to be shorthanded.

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Speaker 1: I know, I probably don't have to preach to you

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Speaker 1: on this, Steve, since you're a big proponent of it.

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Speaker 1: Starts up front, and this coaching staff believes it as well.

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Speaker 1: But the last thing you want to do is be

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Speaker 1: left shorthanded in the size department. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: button heads and mashing at the line of scrimmage. You

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Speaker 1: gotta win the line of scrimmage on both sides of

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Speaker 1: the ball. That's the that's the whole idea. Plus, you've

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Speaker 1: got this guy taking snaps who could be is in

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Speaker 1: the conversation for MVP. You got to protect him the outside.

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Speaker 1: Somebody will get open on the outside. He'll make sure

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Speaker 1: he can make enough time to get on the outside,

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Speaker 1: but you've got to give him. And if your offensive

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Speaker 1: line is winning the line of scrimmage, I means you

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Speaker 1: can run the ball better too, which makes it even

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Speaker 1: easier on the guy you're trying to protect. There's just

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Speaker 1: there's no two ways about it. Offensively, I think everything

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Speaker 1: starts up front, and if you're gonna go heavy someplace,

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Speaker 1: you either got to go O line or D line,

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Speaker 1: because if you can't win the line of scrimmage on

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Speaker 1: one side of the ball or the other, and you

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Speaker 1: can't hold your own, you're defenseless. Or yeah, you're defenseless

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball with you probably and

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying because we've seen Belichick coach teams

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Speaker 1: victimize this Bill's team before the current regime came in,

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Speaker 1: where the Bills in trying to stop all their passing

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Speaker 1: weapons go dime package pass rush, and the Patriots like,

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Speaker 1: oh you want to do that? Okay, you know, here

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Speaker 1: comes all of our running backs. We're gonna go up

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Speaker 1: tempos so you can't sub and we're gonna run over

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Speaker 1: your face for the next twelve plays and kick the

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Speaker 1: door in on your defense. And while you could get

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Speaker 1: caught in a position like that on a given series,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be left without answers with guys

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Speaker 1: that can stand in there and grind and literally hold

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Speaker 1: the line. So as much as as tantalizing as the

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Speaker 1: pass rushing talent is, and knowing a premium has been

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Speaker 1: put on improving the defense in that area, you got

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Speaker 1: to be disciplined in your roster choices so you don't

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Speaker 1: leave yourself vulnerable to one of the most basic tenants

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Speaker 1: of football. I think when this fifty three man list

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Speaker 1: comes out in two weeks, we're not going to be

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Speaker 1: that surprised at who makes it, but you'll be probably

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Speaker 1: little disappointed in guys who they had to let go

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Speaker 1: for one reason or other. I don't anticipate any trades

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Speaker 1: happening like safe. We've got so many good defensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: The Bills are going to trade a couple of them

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Speaker 1: or one of them. You don't think that would happen.

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Speaker 1: It could. I just don't think it will. I just wonder.

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Speaker 1: You know, somebody calls it says, hey, love it if

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Speaker 1: you can throw me, you know, give me defensive end X,

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Speaker 1: give me fa Obata and we'll give you a fifth.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, maybe I just don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're a team. It would come from a team like Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Could you know a team that's built Detroit feels like

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Speaker 1: they might have bottomed out team like the Giants. Their

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Speaker 1: offensive line is struggling right now. They could look for

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Speaker 1: they could be in the market for an offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: if somebody as well. I mean it could be any

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Speaker 1: of the teams you play in the preseason, but it

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Speaker 1: could be anybody. But those guys get a firsthand look

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Speaker 1: at your guys against their guys who they really know,

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Speaker 1: and it gives them a more accurate evaluation. So you

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Speaker 1: might get a call from one of those teams. I

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Speaker 1: just I think this is a personnel department that's highly

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Speaker 1: respected for their their eye for talent. And you know

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Speaker 1: that the other personnel departments in this league assign two

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Speaker 1: to three guys to specifically survey the landscape of talent

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Speaker 1: on the thirty one other teams knowing cut day is coming,

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Speaker 1: and if you want to beat teams to the punch,

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Speaker 1: maybe you offer something in a trade so it's not

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Speaker 1: free market. Twelve teams going after this one maybe veteran

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Speaker 1: defensive end that gets clipped from Team A. You maybe

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Speaker 1: jump the gun and say you call Team A and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're deciding here, but if you're interested,

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Speaker 1: we'd be willing to offer this for player X. And

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Speaker 1: it may be not only just player X. We know

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Speaker 1: you can't keep player X and player Y, so we'll

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Speaker 1: take whichever one you don't want, and we'll give you

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Speaker 1: this for him. Yeah, So I think that that exists.

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Speaker 1: Those phone calls will probably be made in the next

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Speaker 1: in the coming week, because after two preseason games, I

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Speaker 1: think most teams are going to have a pretty firm

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Speaker 1: grasp with what the back half of their roster looks

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Speaker 1: like and where they might be short on talent. The

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Speaker 1: Bills are not really short on talent anywhere on their roster.

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Speaker 1: And so when there are teams out there like that,

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Speaker 1: they're the ones that often get phone calls. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see if somebody can convince the Bills. Hey, it's worth

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Speaker 1: talking turkey over. We have to take a break here,

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Speaker 1: but open phone lines for you at eight oh three,

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Speaker 1: oh five, fifty one, eighty eight five, fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty Which position would you go heavier on at the

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Speaker 1: expense of another For the Bills fifty three man roster

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Speaker 1: choices are there for you at one Bills Live. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with your phone calls and or tweets next

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Speaker 1: Here on one Bills Live, presented by Kaloid of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, and we are back Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here with you on Wednesday, and so we

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Speaker 1: are discussing with you a position group on the Bill's

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Speaker 1: roster where you might carry an extra player at the

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Speaker 1: expense of carrying of one lesser player at another position.

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Speaker 1: When you have to get this roster down to fifty three,

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Speaker 1: where do you feel the talent is so great that

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Speaker 1: you would be willing to make such a move and

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Speaker 1: sacrifice at another position. We could see it this time around.

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Speaker 1: So here we go. We're gonna go to the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet here and my dang email won't open up. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to go to my telephone. Love it when

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Speaker 1: my email WI update, I love it, So Jim Jim

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Speaker 1: leads us off tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan

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Speaker 1: Moving System is the official equipment moving company in the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And Jim says, defensive line, there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of studs. Keep the boys fresh with rotation until

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Speaker 1: we find a rhythm. Now here's the thing, Steve, is

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Speaker 1: that a reason to carry an extra player on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line? Wait until you can find a rhythm. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of your aim in the preseason, he's I think

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Speaker 1: his point is that there's a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of really stud guys up there, and you don't want

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Speaker 1: to get rid of one. That's the thing, and then

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Speaker 1: just find the right comp nation of the most productive combination.

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Speaker 1: Once you do, I kind of and that's what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Because of the state of the roster and

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Speaker 1: the depth of the roster. You got wide receivers, you

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Speaker 1: got a ton of wide receivers that can play. You

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of defensive lineman that complain. You've got

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Speaker 1: some offensive lineman that can play. Although you know they

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Speaker 1: just released three guys in this first cut, you got

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Speaker 1: a ton of guys that can play at this level.

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Speaker 1: So if you're gonna if you want to keep as

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Speaker 1: many NFL players on your squad as you can, sometimes

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Speaker 1: it means you're gonna have to keep an extra guy

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Speaker 1: or two at a position where you just have to

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Speaker 1: have some happen to have some depth. So you don't

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Speaker 1: want to let good players go, particularly guys with elite traits,

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Speaker 1: because they go on and they come back and they

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Speaker 1: beat you sometime. You know. Um, yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I like the defensive line call. We didn't put offensive

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Speaker 1: line on there. But for me, everything starts up front,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's where I'd go. But we've been

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Speaker 1: talking a lot about wide receiver in this training camp,

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Speaker 1: and I can see that. But wide receiver is a position, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: that man, everybody's got a bunch of really good ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're not household names, but this last the last

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Speaker 1: three drafts have been necked deep in number one's right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm you know that. To me, I think you

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Speaker 1: can find guys who can actually you can line up

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Speaker 1: and win with, but big guys who can really play

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Speaker 1: and who fit your culture, those guys are hard to

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Speaker 1: come by, right. I think you can justify wide receiver

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Speaker 1: on this roster for one very large reason, and that

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Speaker 1: is the mode of offense that this group place. They

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Speaker 1: don't go four wide more than any other formation. It's

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Speaker 1: eleven personnel. That is their most popular formation, three wise

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Speaker 1: one type one back, which was three quarters at the time.

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Speaker 1: So at three quarters at the time on offense, they

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Speaker 1: had at least three receivers on the field. Another fourteen

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Speaker 1: percent of the time they had four receivers on the field,

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Speaker 1: and every week of the season last year they had

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Speaker 1: six receivers active. So I think all expectations, all assumptions

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Speaker 1: are the offense is still going to be putting it

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Speaker 1: in the air forty five times a game, maybe more. So,

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Speaker 1: I think you can at least justify carrying perhaps an

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Speaker 1: extra receiver a seventh if the coaching staff felt it

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Speaker 1: was necessary, and I don't think that would raise too

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Speaker 1: many eyebrows quite frankly. Now, that's where you have to

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Speaker 1: get into the decision though, as a coaching staff, well,

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Speaker 1: why are we carrying seven? Are we carrying seven because

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Speaker 1: we believe there are seven regular season roster worthy players

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Speaker 1: at that position, or are we carrying seven to insulate

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Speaker 1: ourselves in the case of an injury? Because if it's

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Speaker 1: the ladder, then one of those guys is going to

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Speaker 1: be inactive every single week. And are you really maximizing

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Speaker 1: the full breadth of your roster if that's what you're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The question also is about this, If you don't keep

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Speaker 1: an extra wide receiver, where's that spot go to? And

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Speaker 1: is the guy you're going to give it to really

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Speaker 1: worth it? That's the real question. Do you have Do

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Speaker 1: you have a fourth tight end or a fifth tight end?

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Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, you know what he might do it? No,

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Speaker 1: you know you don't. I don't think running back you

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Speaker 1: got Taiwan Jones is the fifth running back if you

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Speaker 1: carry four. But this isn't a day and age where

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Speaker 1: you carry a fullback, although what we've seen this summer

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Speaker 1: may make one think they're at least considering it. Gilliam

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00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: went back to use if Reggie Gilliam, Yeah, he can

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Speaker 1: play tight end. He played tight end fullback one year,

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Speaker 1: tight end the next, and now he's back to fullback.

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Speaker 1: That gives you some flexibility there, but still that could

659
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Speaker 1: be that's one roster spot for two positions that wouldn't

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00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: be carrot considered heavy going heavy at tight end or

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Speaker 1: heavy at running back if he was either one of

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Speaker 1: those because of his versatility. So I'm that's to me,

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Speaker 1: that's the real question if you're keeping that guy is

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Speaker 1: because your other options aren't good enough. But let's think

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Speaker 1: about this. The reason why I think Reggie Gilliam makes

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Speaker 1: the conversation so interesting is because of some of what

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Speaker 1: you just stated. A lot of times guys at the

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Speaker 1: back end of a position group make the roster because

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Speaker 1: of what they offer on special teams. You could make

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Speaker 1: the argument that Reggie Gilliam could offer you fullback and

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Speaker 1: tight end flexibility and addition to special teams, that's three

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Speaker 1: three roles in one. Does that make him more versatile

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Speaker 1: than maybe a Taiwan Jones in terms of what he

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00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: offers the roster. He might he might not be considered

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Speaker 1: as valuable as special teams player as Taiwan Jones, But

676
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Speaker 1: if he offers you stuff in two other areas, does

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Speaker 1: it tip the scale? Does it tip the scale? And

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Speaker 1: these are the decisions that this coaching staff is gonna

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00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: have to, you know, come to grips with Reggie Gilliam

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00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: could be the guy that allows you to go two back,

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Speaker 1: go fullback, running back in a given week. In a

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Speaker 1: given week, Right, you're not going to run the ball

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Speaker 1: to sixty percent of the time. And you're not even

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Speaker 1: gonna do that in a game where your game plan

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Speaker 1: is to run it. You're only gonna run half the time,

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Speaker 1: which is a whole other layer of the conversation. So, well,

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Speaker 1: we'd like to have this guy that can play fullback

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Speaker 1: in tight end. Well, how often are we really going

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Speaker 1: to use the fullback in a game plan in a

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Speaker 1: given week? What can what do we believe will come

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Speaker 1: to passing that? How many weeks do we really feel

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Speaker 1: we're gonna press that into action? And even when we do,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about? Are we talking five plays

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Speaker 1: in a game plan or are we talk forty? Right,

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00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: there's a difference there, a very big difference that pertains

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Speaker 1: to just this roster decision. Right, But if you do

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Speaker 1: have a guy that can can play fullback but also

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Speaker 1: play tight end in a three tight end set or

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Speaker 1: even a two tight end set. Yeah, goal line pack,

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Speaker 1: goal line package or something. And he covers kicks and

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Speaker 1: he's on the kick return teams. Then you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a guy that Yeah, he tips the scale a little bit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know what we've got. We've got knocks, We've got Hollister,

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Speaker 1: We've got Sweeney or Becker, whatever, whichever one you want,

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Speaker 1: and we can throw Gillian on top of that crew,

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Speaker 1: or replace one of those crew guys with Gilliam and

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Speaker 1: they'll have a we'll have a three tight end or

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Speaker 1: a four tight end group with a fullback included into

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Speaker 1: a running back group and a special teams player. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he makes it, you know what I'm saying. And you

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Speaker 1: can list him however you want. Tight end slash running

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Speaker 1: back slash fullback. Yeah, to me, running back is a

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Speaker 1: really difficult one to go heavy in. Not because we'll

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Speaker 1: think about this, how easy it would be replaced the guy.

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Speaker 1: There's like a thousand running backs on the market all

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Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, So yeah, everything get I'm telling you though,

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Speaker 1: everything gets better when the big guys are healthy. And

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Speaker 1: you know when when the guys up front are doing it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not debating that for a second, but I think

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Speaker 1: there are there are multi layered conversations at several positions

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Speaker 1: for the Bills because they do have such a great

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Speaker 1: depth of talent up and down the roster. So that's

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Speaker 1: why we pose the question today, which position would you

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Speaker 1: go heavier on at the expense of another for the

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Speaker 1: bills fifty three man roster. Not easy decisions to make,

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Speaker 1: but good dilemma to have when you have a roster

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Speaker 1: like this. Break time for Steve and I. More on

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Speaker 1: enough to be the winner of the sweepstakes contest. We

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Speaker 1: are talking obviously about the fifty three man roster. Decisions

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Speaker 1: have to be made in just under two weeks time,

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Speaker 1: and there are some positions on the Bills roster that

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Speaker 1: are flush with a surplus of talent. If you had

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Speaker 1: to pick, which position would you go heavier on in

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Speaker 1: formulating your fifty three man roster at the expense of

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Speaker 1: another There are some choices for you there at one

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Speaker 1: Bills live on Twitter, so you can pick from there,

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Speaker 1: five fifty one New NFL note to pass along. This

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Speaker 1: is from ESPN Jets beat reporter Rich Samini. Guard Alex

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Speaker 1: Lewis has decided to retire. According to a source, he

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Speaker 1: was eliminated from playing for any team in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one last week when the Jets placed him on the

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Speaker 1: reserved left squad list, so he could have a comeback

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two if he decided, but it looks

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Speaker 1: as though he is going to call it a career.

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Speaker 1: He was a starting guard for them last year. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line is seeing great turnover in New York

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Speaker 1: and we'll be talking to Leje Doozable in the third

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Speaker 1: hour of the program and we can probably ask him

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Speaker 1: about that situation as well. But that is new and

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Speaker 1: coming down. Steve, I don't know if you saw this

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Speaker 1: we didn't get this in our opening segment. Terall Owens,

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Speaker 1: did you see his comments on Good Morning Football? Did not?

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Speaker 1: I did not. I saw him. He was on Steve.

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Speaker 1: He was on Good Morning Football. No funny say, he's

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Speaker 1: now forty seven years old. He does He's not going

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Speaker 1: to come back. He's eleven years removed from his last

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Speaker 1: NFL snap. He's in the Hall of Fame. He still

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Speaker 1: wants to play. Direct quote from TiO, I can do

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Speaker 1: what people never expect. There's only one I can still play.

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Speaker 1: Who's to say what I can and can't do. You

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Speaker 1: can't speak for me. If anybody can do it, I

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00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: can do it. Terrell Owens still likes a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, Terrell Owens likes him some him. Yeah,

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00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: I listen. If anybody can do it, yeah, okay, but

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Speaker 1: nobody can. Yeah, that's it, right, That's the end of

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Speaker 1: the sentence. I seem to recall him running a forty

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Speaker 1: on some you know, high school field, and they had

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Speaker 1: a stop watch and they were filming it. He was

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Speaker 1: doing it against Tyree Hill. Yeah, and he ran like

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Speaker 1: a four four eight or something Tyreek Grant like a

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Speaker 1: four three three. They they literally would like two two

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Speaker 1: and a half steps apart, which I will say, at

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Speaker 1: forty six years of age, it's good. That's nothing to

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Speaker 1: sneeze at. Absolutely, and it's it's NFL worthy. But he's

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Speaker 1: forty seven. Yeah, he's not kicking field goals, Steve. He's

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Speaker 1: playing wide receiver. Yeah, oh yeah, that he has no shot.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's calling. There's a couple of reasons. One, at the

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Speaker 1: age of forty seven, he will be too fragile to

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Speaker 1: play and stay healthy enough to stay to stay on

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Speaker 1: the field. And two, it's not about running fast, as

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Speaker 1: we saw he can do. It's about stopping fast and

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Speaker 1: exploding fast and changing direction fast without breaking something in

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Speaker 1: your body. That is why he cannot play. So tell

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Speaker 1: me what happens to the body that makes fragility such

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Speaker 1: a concern at age forty seven. It loses its suppleness,

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Speaker 1: I mean elasticity, elasticity, its ability to rebound and recover

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Speaker 1: all of that. And certainly you can you know, you

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Speaker 1: can aid that with I don't know, supplements or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but in certainly nothing that's over the count or nothing

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Speaker 1: that's not on the list of banned substances. He's uh,

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Speaker 1: he was no doubt about it. A supremely gifted athlete,

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Speaker 1: one of a kind, and forget all the other whatever

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Speaker 1: other baggage he brought to the table. He was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was a singular talent. But at forty seven, we're

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Speaker 1: not talking like, we're not even talking like thirty eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not even talking for forty seven forty seven. So, Steve,

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Speaker 1: if we go back to your last season in the

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Speaker 1: league and how you felt every week at age thirty

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Speaker 1: five and then suddenly add twelve years to your life,

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Speaker 1: what what detrimental? Yeah? I mean I never on my

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Speaker 1: best day. I never looked like I could play anyway,

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Speaker 1: and certainly, but you can relate to what it felt

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Speaker 1: every week at age thirty five. I get it too,

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Speaker 1: and I'm in a you know, I'm in a different

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Speaker 1: world now. I mean, I've been out of the game

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Speaker 1: for twenty to whatever, twenty five years. It's it's to me.

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Speaker 1: I get it. And that's one of the reasons he

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Speaker 1: was so good. Terrell Owens was because he always wanted

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Speaker 1: to play. He wanted to be out there, he wanted

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Speaker 1: the ball in big moments. He wanted to train to

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Speaker 1: be out he wanted to be good. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: be involved in the offense, he wanted the ball coming

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Speaker 1: to him, all those things that help you overcome obstacles

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Speaker 1: and challenges and make you great. Obviously, listening to him

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Speaker 1: talk today, all that's still intact and good for him.

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Speaker 1: He still has the energy to want to do it.

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Speaker 1: He still wants to compete, he still wants to play football,

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Speaker 1: he still wants to be on a team. He still

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Speaker 1: wants to be the center of the offense. You know,

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. That's great, But it gives you

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Speaker 1: some insight as to why those guys are great and wives.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this meantimes on this show, the really

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Speaker 1: great one, all the really great ones I've ever been around,

850
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 1: in some aspect of their personality, they're certifiably insane. Yeah,

851
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: there's something not right about him, because that's what drives him. Yeah,

852
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes that insanity leads to irrational choices, like I

853
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: can still play at age forty seven, Right, Well, he

854
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: can't choose to play. He can choose to play. I

855
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna play. Four Well, one of our

856
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: listeners tweeted in, and I don't know the veracity of this,

857
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: so take it for what it's worth. But Rick tweeted

858
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: in and said Edmonton of the CFL offered him a

859
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: contract two years ago. Put up or shut up. He

860
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: declined because he knows he can't play. He just loves

861
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: the attention. Um, yeah, maybe, but he is an attention monger.

862
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, our MSG viewers just saw the clips of

863
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: him weightlifting in the driveway. You remember that when he

864
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: was with the Eagles. Drew Rosenhouse is standing there day

865
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: trying to make the best of a bad situation. Yeah, listen,

866
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: I get it. He's teos, was a phenomenal athlete, a

867
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: phenomenal football player. But yeah, it was over a long

868
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: time and it ain't coming back. Yeah, it ain't coming back.

869
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but when we return,

870
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: one of coach McDermott's mentors in the coaching profession has

871
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: revealed how much playing time his starters will get in

872
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: their preseason game this weekend, preseason game number two. Does

873
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: it provide us with any inkling as to what the

874
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Bills might do this weekend? They'll discuss next Here on

875
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo

876
00:51:52,520 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. At a Steve Tasker who has been all

877
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of

878
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: a dual role player for State. Steed a blimp. We're

879
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: not even in the strated here of normalcy. Here we

880
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: are for hour number two Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here

881
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: on a wednes Day. And as we mentioned before the break,

882
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: one of Sean McDermott's mentors in the coaching profession has

883
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: revealed how much his starters will play in their Friday

884
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: night preseason game later this week. Chiefs head coach Andy

885
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Reid says his chief starters Friday night at Arizona against

886
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. We'll go a half somewhere thereabout with the starters,

887
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: and then the twos and the threes will take the

888
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: second half. So Patrick Mahomes and company we'll get a

889
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: half of work on Friday night against Arizona. Arizona incidentally

890
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: will play Kyler Murray, so both starting quarterbacks expected to

891
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: see action in that game. Kansas City at Arizona interesting,

892
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: very I be interesting to see how long Mahomes and

893
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Kelsey and the offensive line. I'm sure

894
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: one of the things that things the Chiefs did this

895
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: last offseason was really take a close look at their

896
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: offensive line from my perspective a million miles away. They

897
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: got into trouble in the Super Bowl, and in the

898
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl because of their offensive line. I think that's

899
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: pretty obvious to everybody. But the problem was they lost

900
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: both tackles in the last week leading up to it.

901
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: So they lost. There's two started there, two starting tackles,

902
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: and so they wanted to get that back. Now a

903
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: couple of one of them was retired, fired, or one

904
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: of them left free agency or whatever. So I get it.

905
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: But they took a long, hard look at their offensive

906
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: line and fixed those guys or did their best to

907
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: bring in some talent and get those guys up to

908
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: snuff at the up front. They got caught at the

909
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: end of a very long season when they lived with

910
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: a target on their back. Every game was a huge

911
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: game for their opponent, and their offensive line were the

912
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: guys that really struggled, you know, to hang in there

913
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: through all seventeen weeks of the season. I think it's

914
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: smart to get those guys in there, but you got

915
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: a lot of valuable assets on the field that you

916
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: know need protecting, and unless you're one hundred percent sure

917
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: those guys. Pat Mahomes isn't somebody I would risk valid.

918
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: I think the follow up question, and maybe it was

919
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: a follow up question that was asked when coach Reid

920
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: revealed his playing time plans for his starters for their

921
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: Friday preseason game in Arizona. Will this be the dress

922
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: rehearsal game for your starters, meaning they're gonna play a

923
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: half Friday night? Does that mean they're not playing at

924
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: all next week in the final preseason game, which would

925
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: then in turn mean their starters won't be in a

926
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: live action setting for three weeks leading up to the opener. Yeah,

927
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: that's like I said, everybody, I don't know. Everybody's different,

928
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: and I don't know that a head coach even wants

929
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: to make a blanket statement about what he wants his

930
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, what he wants his starters to do. They're

931
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: all going to be in a different spot physically mentally

932
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: by the time they get there. So I'm you know,

933
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm what do we I don't know how much you

934
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: can say and to be definitively true about it, you know,

935
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs may want to play all their guys,

936
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: but what am I gonna do? You know, Pat? If listen,

937
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: if Pat Mahomes wakes up with hangnail. He's not gonna

938
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: play let alone. Uh, you know, play for a half

939
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: or three quarters of it. The Chiefs, you know, you

940
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: this year they start with Cleveland, Baltimore and the Chargers.

941
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: So they gotta be ready. They gotta be ready when

942
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: they show up for the regular season. So if you

943
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs are sitting there and Pat Mahomes hasn't

944
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: played in three weeks, and you're gonna play face the

945
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, the Baltimore Ravens, and the Chargers, and then

946
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I mean, that's a real to me,

947
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: that's a real concern. You're not starting out with Jacksonville.

948
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: It's hard to say you're gonna be sharp right out

949
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: of the shoot if you haven't played live game action

950
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: in three weeks. You got Cleveland at home, but still Cleveland,

951
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: how big a chip on the shoulders. Cleveland's gonna come

952
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: in there, do it. They're gonna be like, remember, oh

953
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: my gosh, you remember that fourth down BS play that

954
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback ran against us. We haven't forgotten it.

955
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna bust in there like an old western movie

956
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: in a saloon. Just bust open both swinging doors and like,

957
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 1: let's go both six shooters firing. You know, so it's

958
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Kevin Stefanski, Miles Garrett, all those guys, all

959
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: those jokers are gonna show up in Kansas City going, Man,

960
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: let's go. You're gonna show up like three weeks late.

961
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: That's the big that's the big unknown for this whole

962
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: preseason for every team. How good are you gonna have

963
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: to be on week one? And how good can you

964
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: get if you play like this weekend and then don't

965
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: see the field again for two more weekends before you

966
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: play on opening day? It seems and you know that

967
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna do that, right they might. It's

968
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: it's just it's a big unknown. It's a huge unknown. Well,

969
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: I think we also have to factor this in too, Steve,

970
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: because we've talked about this with the maturation of the Bills,

971
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: the program that has been groomed, developed and has now

972
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: I think most people would agree, matured. We heard coach

973
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: McDermott going into the AFC Championship game last year against

974
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs saying, we are in year four of our

975
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: development in building this program. The Chiefs are in like

976
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: year eight, right, so when you're in year eight, maybe

977
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: it is okay to kind of get one preseason game

978
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: in chill for three weeks and be ready for the

979
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: regular season. I don't know. They still might play in

980
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: the final preseason game. We don't know, but playing a

981
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: whole half in preseason game number two with your starters

982
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: at least lends to the possibility of them sitting completely

983
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: in the last one, Right, are you gonna go down

984
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: there or maybe they Yeah, because it seems crazy for

985
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: them to play, and this is unbelievable, and the regular season,

986
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: you're like, you're not even thinking about it. They're playing

987
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: every week and they're playing every snap. So when you

988
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: start early, it's like impossible to fathom they would play

989
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: two first halves in consecutive weeks in the preseason, two

990
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: entire first halves. Yeah, but you know, you think about it.

991
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems it's just I can't get that.

992
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: That's the thing that bothers me because I was a player.

993
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: I was like, if you're worried about me getting hurt,

994
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: why are you Why are you even suiting me up

995
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: week one? You know, if that's the thing, let's play,

996
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, let's play and It's different for a guy

997
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: like of the type I was, you know, kick cover

998
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: and all that, because I, you know, I it's easier

999
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: to stay healthy when you're the guy chasing people rather

1000
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: than getting chased with the ball in your hand. But

1001
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: if you want to get them ready, they got to play.

1002
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: To get ready, they gotta play. And proximity to the

1003
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: regular season is a factor to consider here in terms

1004
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: of maintaining their level of sharpness entering the games that count.

1005
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: Do you want it to be a two week layover

1006
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: or a three week layover. It's in the eyes of

1007
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: some coaches in this league that is a big difference

1008
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: in terms of maintaining a sharp level of execution and

1009
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: all that stuff, emotion, intensity of play. First game of

1010
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: the of the year, it's going to be there, naturally,

1011
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: it's organically going to be there, But what about the

1012
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: sharpness of the execution? How tightened up or buttoned down?

1013
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: Is this thing? On offense, defense and special teams? Think

1014
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: about this. You got James speed, right, you get to

1015
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: training camp and you're practicing, it's you know, and it's

1016
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: you go and you practice that first week, It's like, okay,

1017
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: we got our feet under this. Now, we're gonna go again.

1018
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna putting the pads on now, we're practicing.

1019
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: By the time you get to them and we heard this,

1020
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: you get to the first preseason game, all the guys

1021
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: are saying, man, I want to play against somebody else.

1022
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm tired of hit. You know, think about this now.

1023
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: If they didn't get to play that first preseason game

1024
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: and the first game was another week, that's what you're

1025
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: looking at. If they play in the preseason game and

1026
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: go three weeks without playing, they're gonna be going crazy.

1027
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a bad thing. Maybe maybe

1028
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: they'll be all wound up and it'll be a good thing. Right,

1029
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: They'll be so anxious to play they can't wait. Or

1030
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: maybe they pop a gasket before they even get there,

1031
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: and now they're in you know, they're they're in the

1032
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: shop before the game actually you know takes place. They

1033
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: get hurt anyway, But think about how long that is

1034
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: in in football season. In a football season, for players,

1035
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: three weeks, it's an eternity. Yeah, it's like your next birthday.

1036
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, you know, you're six months away,

1037
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: three weeks, three weeks. You could take time off well,

1038
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: and I think, as you mentioned, yes, and I tried

1039
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: to point this out, like the Chiefs are eight years

1040
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: into this program. It's like a well oiled machine in

1041
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: terms of how it functions and runs. But we know

1042
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: that there is turnover every year in this league on

1043
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: every single roster, so and most notably on this Chief's

1044
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: roster upfront with the offensive line. I mean, you're gonna

1045
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: have five new starters on their offensive line. Five Orlando Brown,

1046
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney, Creed Humphrey the rookie, Tray Smith the rookie,

1047
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: and Lucas Nyang. Okay, none of those guys started for

1048
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: that group last year. So are you only going one

1049
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: preseason game with him? Here's my theory. I believe this

1050
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: coach read is, as he said, going to play his

1051
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: starters for a half this weekend against Arizona. How that

1052
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: thing looks in the first half is largely going to

1053
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: determine how much, if at all, those starters are going

1054
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: to play in the third preseason game. If it looks,

1055
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, especially this offensive line, which is a brand

1056
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: new front five, I can't believe this hasn't gotten more attention,

1057
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, especially with the way the

1058
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: season ended for the Chiefs last year Super Bowl, to

1059
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: its starting tackles injured out, Tampa Bay feasts on them.

1060
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is running for his life the whole game

1061
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: on a bad foot and they lose the game. And

1062
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: now they appropriately addressed what was an obvious weakness for

1063
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: them and addressed it both in free agency via trade

1064
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: and the draft to make it better in front of

1065
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and sure, in time, this is a talent

1066
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: defensive line that should perform admirably. But if it doesn't

1067
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: look good or at least look consistent on Friday Night,

1068
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: I fully expect Andy Reid to play him again next week.

1069
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what you're thinking. But if it does look

1070
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: good against Wow, yeah, then foot off the gas and

1071
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,959
Speaker 1: let's just wait for the regular season. Fellas. Yeah, maybe

1072
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,959
Speaker 1: if it's that simple, But that's three weeks is forever

1073
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: the long stretch. It's forever just to be practicing and

1074
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: getting through it and doing all that. That's that's a

1075
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: long long time now. I mean I was thinking three

1076
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: weeks literally, you could get you could leave the country

1077
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: on a five day vacation, go to a beach and

1078
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: drink margar Reda's and come back and be ready to

1079
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: play after going through training camp. You could leave right

1080
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: after the third preseason game or the second preseason game,

1081
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: go on a vacation for five days, come back, and

1082
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: you'd be ready to play on opening day. That's how

1083
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: long that is in NFL days in NFL, you know, season,

1084
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: three weeks. That's that's forever. And just to be sitting

1085
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: just I mean, you'd be practicing and all that. But man,

1086
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: oh man, think about the complaining there is before the

1087
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: first preseason game. At least now we got to practic

1088
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: against somebody else. I'm sick of this. And that's two weeks.

1089
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: That's like fresh two weeks. That's not like two weeks

1090
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: on top of a season. That's like a fresh two

1091
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: weeks off a six month vacation. Yeah, I am so

1092
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: ready to go play against somebody else. And then add

1093
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: another add another week onto that. Yeah, oh my gosh,

1094
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: it's a that's like a European summer holiday. Isn't that

1095
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: what all the European people do in the summer. They

1096
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: take like three or four weeks off, they're they're gone

1097
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: and go to the beach like a month. You know,

1098
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: it is shut the lights out. Let's go. That's what

1099
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: you do. Be that would be really asking a lot. Yeah,

1100
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: to have sharp I think I think you do it

1101
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: just like you did. And or perhaps maybe we're maybe

1102
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: we're overthinking this, or maybe we're too timid because of

1103
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: what we've seen happen in the past. Maybe the play

1104
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: is to play your starters more, not less. You get

1105
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: them ready. If you lose, you're gonna lose them to injuries.

1106
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's just you know, just play them for

1107
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: half in the last two preseason games, get them really sharp,

1108
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: and then let them sit. Yeah, And that might be

1109
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: what the exercise is this week by the Chiefs. It

1110
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: could be any number of approaches, but with that offensive

1111
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: line as turned over as it is from last year,

1112
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: you don't have a choice. You gotta get that thing

1113
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: right because your franchise player and probably one of the

1114
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: two or three best players in the entire league, is

1115
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: standing back. They're trying to make plays for you, So

1116
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: you better have that thing right. And that's probably why

1117
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: he's playing them now. So if it doesn't look good

1118
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: on Friday against Arizona, we're doing it again boys the

1119
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: very next week, because we got to get this thing

1120
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: right for the regular season against a good Cleveland defense

1121
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: in Week one, Yeah, and maybe. And the other side

1122
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: of that coin is that you end up chasing your tail.

1123
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: It never looks perfect or how good does good look?

1124
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: You know? And he said, you know, well, wow, we

1125
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: had this guy. You know, this guy didn't play good.

1126
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: This guy did that kind of thing. You start to

1127
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: individualize how these guys, which is how they're evaluated, and

1128
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: you start saying, well, part of you played pretty good,

1129
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: but part of you played really good, but the overall

1130
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: effect wasn't that good, right, or just the opposite. Well,

1131
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: we won the game, but we played horrible. Yeah, what

1132
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? You know? I mean you start

1133
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: chasing your tail about what it means to quote unquote

1134
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: look good. Yeah, And I mean, let's just end the

1135
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: preseason game looks awful. Yeah, But I mean you look

1136
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: at the new makeup of their offensive line. Orlando Brown, Okay,

1137
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: that veteran guy knows what he's doing. Fine, maybe you

1138
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: limit his reps a little bit. Joe Tuney pro Bowl

1139
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: level guard. You would expect him to be quick on

1140
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: the uptake, but then at center and right guard. Right now,

1141
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 1: you've got two rookies that are in the driver's seat

1142
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: to land those starting jobs. And I'm not saying they're

1143
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: not ready, but they're certainly inexperienced. And those are two

1144
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna be working together a lot on plays,

1145
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: not to mention making all the line calls. So there's that,

1146
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: and then you still have a right tackle who's brand news.

1147
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: So from center to right tackle, you know, you got

1148
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: two rookies and a guy that doesn't have a boatload

1149
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: of starts in the NFL in Lucas Nyang. And then

1150
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 1: on the left side you've got two veterans, but they've

1151
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: not played together either. There's a lot of pieces to

1152
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: fit together there in the course of two more weeks

1153
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: of preseason before you get to real regular season football

1154
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: against the defense that is pretty darn good in Cleveland.

1155
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: And fans tend to get into this thing here too,

1156
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: Brownie like, and I've done it where you think, well,

1157
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: you don't want anything to happen Mahomes, you don't anything

1158
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: to happen to Kelsey, you don't want anything to happen

1159
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: to Tyreek Hill, all of these guys. Okay, just make

1160
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: sure those guys don't get hurt. The offensive line. They'll

1161
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: be our It's like you always kind of just wave

1162
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: a magic wand over the offensive line. Nah, they'll be

1163
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: all right. You know those guys that you know, you

1164
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: hardly ever see those guys get hurt, and it's just

1165
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: as big a risk for those guys. What are you

1166
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna do if you eaves Orlando Brown? You know, And

1167
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: my point being, well, let the offensive line get it

1168
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: together and play behind in front of Chad Henny and

1169
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: Billy Bag of Donuts and this other guy that's not

1170
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: going to make the team. You know, Let's put our

1171
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: first train offensive line in there and let them get

1172
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 1: their reps in. Well, they run just as big a

1173
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: risk as Hill, Kelsey and Mahomes. So it's not like

1174
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: you're get over. But if that's what you want, you know,

1175
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: that's the thing. If you want those guys to look

1176
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: good sooner or later, you gotta take the training wheels.

1177
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: If you gotta play, you gotta turn them loose and

1178
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: tell them to play, because that's what the regular season is.

1179
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: You gotta get them ready, you gotta be interesting. And

1180
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: the Bills are in a similar boat here because you

1181
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: know you've got not in terms of their offensive line

1182
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: I'm just saying in terms of the value of the

1183
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: guy you've got a quarterback and how you handle that.

1184
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: Like the offensive starters for the Chiefs might play a half.

1185
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: Do we really think Patrick Mahomes is playing the whole half.

1186
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he is. He's maybe playing a quarter.

1187
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: So when the decision is made on what Josh is

1188
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: going to be doing in terms of playing time for

1189
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: this weekend at Chicago, I mean, it could be anything

1190
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: from a few series to a quarter at the most,

1191
01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: to not playing at all. There's far less turnover on

1192
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo's offensive line then they're experiencing in Kansas City, you know,

1193
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: but there's competition there. There's some guard competition, and as

1194
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: we know, Deon Dawkins is rounding back into form. I

1195
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he gets a little action if

1196
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: they deem the ramp up to the game enough time

1197
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: for Dawkins to get ready. He got more work in

1198
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: the team setting yesterday after being sprinkled in sparingly the

1199
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: day prior. I think it'll come down to where he's

1200
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 1: at physically and how he feels conditioning. You're talking, yeah,

1201
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: and plus you know, how how are you recovering from that, right,

1202
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: can you hold your own or you know you gaining

1203
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: the weight back that you lost? Are you are your

1204
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: symptoms completely gone? What about the aftermath of having COVID

1205
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: or you know, you still have trouble catching your breath

1206
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. If he feels like he's just out of

1207
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: shape and needs his work, then maybe that's a signal like, Okay,

1208
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: you can get a little few extra reps in this game.

1209
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: Will let you play for a while to get in

1210
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: shape back in the day, that's why they called a

1211
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: training camp. But certainly it's not because he doesn't know

1212
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: the plays or has trouble on the uptake or of

1213
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,879
Speaker 1: the offense, because it's you know, he's running the techniques.

1214
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: He's running very well for four years. So I'm it's

1215
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: going to be all about COVID as to whether he

1216
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: plays or not. Yeah, and then you know there are

1217
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: other considerations that need to be made here. Who did

1218
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: not get to play in the last preseason game that

1219
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: probably needs some reps this time around. Zach Moss is

1220
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Kind of got worked back into the

1221
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: practice setting this week after sitting out last week's game

1222
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: due to a strained hamstring. Was listed as day to

1223
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: day last week, is back in the practice fold. Now

1224
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: did he get enough time on the field here? And

1225
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: has he recovered to the point where he looks good

1226
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: and they feel good about getting him some reps in

1227
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: the preseason, something he undoubtedly wants to do. If you're

1228
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, going out with the ankle injury in the

1229
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: wild card game or I'm sorry in the yeah, in

1230
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: the wild card game in January against Indianapolis. I mean

1231
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't played since what was that January ninth? I think,

1232
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: so that's a heck of a layoff. You want to

1233
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: get some live reps and stuff and healthy enough to

1234
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: do so. So I would anticipate he gets some playing

1235
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: time just by virtue of the fact that he didn't

1236
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: get any last week. Right, So there are examples like

1237
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: that scattered on this roster. What do you do with

1238
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes. You know, Jerry's a grizzled veteran. Does he

1239
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: need preseason reps at all? Meanwhile, we hear Star Latula saying, well,

1240
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: I'd like to get some before I get to the

1241
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: regular season. I don't need an overload of them, but

1242
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: I would like to get some. Jerry Hughes is the

1243
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: kind of guy that I would anticipate wants to get

1244
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: some too. He's not a guy that likes to sit around.

1245
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: He gets antsy. He's all about putting in the work.

1246
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: I would I would expect him to be lobbying for

1247
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: some snaps as well, I think, And I don't you know,

1248
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: I don't have any insight at all. I haven't spoken

1249
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: to Sean McDermott or Brandon Bean or any of the

1250
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: coaches about what their philosophy is. But it seems to me,

1251
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: you've got two road games to start the preseason, one

1252
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: in Detroit, this one in Chicago, and in three or

1253
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: four days, and then you come back home for the

1254
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: only preseason game at home, and it's three weeks before,

1255
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: two weeks before your home opener, and that it seems

1256
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: to me it would be the perfect time to let

1257
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: your starters play a half at home where their family

1258
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: is going to be there, support systems are going to

1259
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: be there, the fans will be in attendance. You know,

1260
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: get let your starters feel that for a game, and

1261
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, just for that first half of that game,

1262
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: maybe into the third quarter, and then set them down.

1263
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: It seems to me that would be a perfect scenario.

1264
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: Let the bottom half of the roster play these road games,

1265
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: give the top of the roster the home game at

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Speaker 1: the first half, and then you know, and and set

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Speaker 1: him down. But what happens. But then there's that other

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Speaker 1: element we were talking about on the show yesterday, Steve,

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01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 1: does your offense need to get a road environment experience

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01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: to get used to the crowd noise? Again, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can replicate it in practice as much as you want.

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Speaker 1: It's not the same as being in a stadium full

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Speaker 1: of thirty forty thousand people at a preseason game, even right,

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01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: So that's there's something there. I mean, we know, I

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01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: just know that coach McDermott values those little details, So

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if he passes up that opportunity. A

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01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: good point, it's a really good point. I don't know

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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: if if you would or not. I know this, there

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01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 1: was a We've talked about at length. There's a theory

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01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: out there that one of the reasons that Josh Alben

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01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: was able to make the breakout leap that he made

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01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: last year with his play was the fact that he

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01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: didn't have the crowd either taking him to the sky

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: or dropping him in, you know, dropping him into the depths.

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean he was. It was silent there, The communication

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01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: was perfect. He didn't have the emotion of the crowd

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01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: to get him all out of whack. You know, you didn't.

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01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 1: You didn't get that sugar high Josh and didn't have

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: to peel him off the ceiling like you would if

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01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: the crowd was absolutely losing its mind at home or

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Speaker 1: on the road. So there's if that's the case. Yeah,

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01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: you do need to acclimate him to that. I think

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01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: he said it. The Chief's crowd in Kansas City was

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01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: rough last year after the seventeen thousand, right, and after

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01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: having not having any crowd at all on the road. Yeah,

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01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: it was an adjustment. So maybe that is in Sean

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: mcdermot's mind. Maybe they'll come into play break time here

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Speaker 1: for us when we come back. More of your thoughts

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01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. As we are asking you if

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01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: you had to make the fifty three man roster, where

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01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: is there a surplus a talent where you make carry

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: an extra player at a certain position group at the

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01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: expense of another choices are there for you at one

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01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: bills live on Twitter. We'll get to your comments on

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. Next, you're on one Bills Live presented

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: by Collid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Before we

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01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: get to your comments on a tweet sheet. More news

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Speaker 1: coming out of Chicago considering their quarterback situation. We already

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01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: told you that rookie Justin Fields is suffering from some

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01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: groin soreness. Did not practice today as probably got some

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01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: up in the air status. I guess for Saturday's game,

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01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: they probably won't risk it. If they think he could

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01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: make the situation worse, they probably won't play him. Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton today in a press conference with the Chicago media,

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: when asked on the battle between him and Justin Fields

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: at quarterback, he said, quote, Justin's going to have a

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01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: great career, But right now it's my time. You go

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01:17:52,280 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: big red Andy Dalton, the red rifle, the red rifle. Yeah, listen,

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01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: he's yea yeah, guy made. The guy was successful in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: What else do you need to say about him? Yeah,

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01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: he got them to the play at Cincinnati Bengals in

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01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: the playoffs four straight years. He was one and done

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01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: all four years. But that in and of itself puts

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Speaker 1: him in that's in achievement, That is a rad that's

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: rare air, rare air Cincinnati. H So yeah, how the

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Speaker 1: world turns in Shytown? I love it? Uh so yeah,

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01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: they'll We thought the biggest story it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubiscuit coming back to Chicago. Boy were we wrong

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01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: on that? Yeah, as the world turns in Chicago? Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Why does Andy? You know, why do

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01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 1: they think Andy Dalton's not gonna bring his A game?

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01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: Even if his A game is Andy Dalton a game? Yeah.

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's you know, he's he's played well in

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: this in this league. Bills fans love the guy well

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01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: for much different reasons. But yes, yeah, I don't know.

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01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: That's why. And they and I get it to anytime.

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01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: And that's why they do it because because of this

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01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: right here, because you and me and all this stuff attention.

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:27,480
Speaker 1: Once you say something that isn't the least bit confrontational, controversial,

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01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: like pound your chest, anytime you say something like that

1341
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: as a player, it is like goes. It's the top

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01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: of the news cycle, especially if you're a quarterback, and

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01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: that is that is just not worth it. It is

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01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: not worth it makes it interesting. But I'll say this though,

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01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: that's my time. Wow. Yeah, I like it. It's pretty good,

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01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 1: a pretty good line. I gotta imagine that teammates in

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01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: the locker room like, oh, okay, right, you know, I

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01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: kind of like it a little bit. Yeah, Big Red

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01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: can be heard from. So add another layer to the intrigue,

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01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: as much as intrigue can be built for a preseason game.

1351
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: There it is tons of quarterback news and notes going

1352
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: into the Bills Bears matchup on Saturday. We do want

1353
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: to get to the tweet sheet, though, where we are

1354
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: asking you which position would you go heavier on at

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01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: the expense of another in formulating the Bills fifty three

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: man roster, where is there a surplus of talent so

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01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: extreme you can't see going short at the position and

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01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: would sacrifice numbers at another position to keep the talent

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Speaker 1: chock full at another eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: to get on board one eight five fifty two five

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01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: fifty open line for you there, and we go the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet in the meantime, where John says, definitely defensive line.

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Speaker 1: It puts us in better position next year depending on

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01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: what happens with the older Vets. So John is of

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01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: the belief that while players like Mario Addison and Jerry

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01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: Hughes are expected to be here this year. Go heavy

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01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: at the defensive end position, so you don't part with

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01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: any younger talent that could get snatched away from you

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: and poached on another roster, and then next year, where

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Speaker 1: are you You got Jerry Hughes, turn is thirty two,

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Speaker 1: going to be thirty three, Mario thirty three. Now Mario

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Speaker 1: is going to be thirty four Stars thirty two. So

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01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: you have three guys who are big contributors and who

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01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: have been consistently big contributors over the last handful of years.

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Speaker 1: At that age, if you want to get some guys

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01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: acclimated into playing a bigger role, you need to keep

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01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 1: them around. And plus, if you got the guys that

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01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: are in their mid thirties, give them some rest, make

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01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: sure they're fresh for like the big moments, right Ye, So,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm totally on board with that. Defensive line

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Speaker 1: is the leading vote getter in our poll so far,

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Speaker 1: over forty five percent of the vote, and that's likely

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01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: rooted in the fact that people are excited about the

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01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: young talent on the Bill's roster at that position. I

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01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: just don't know if they completely trust it yet. So

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01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: you don't want to part with veterans and throw people

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01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: overboard until you know right, And that might be the

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01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: same wrestling match in their head that the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: is going to have to undertake here in about a

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Speaker 1: week and a half. So there's that that's on their plate.

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01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: Jack on the tweet sheet says, I bet they go

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01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 1: with six wide receivers because they have almost every year

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Speaker 1: with this staff. D line is where we can't seem

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: to make cuts that don't hurt four to five defensive tackles,

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01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 1: six to seven defensive ends depending on Bam Johnson. These

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01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 1: are very tough decisions. I think they can afford to

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01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: go nine offensive linemen this year, but I'd hate to

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01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: short change DBS. So there's Jack the numbers. He's all

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01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: twisted up already in a tweet. You imagine how the

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Speaker 1: coaches feel. That's hard. It's really hard. We always do

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Speaker 1: roster projections and numbers. You know, later on, maybe we

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Speaker 1: should pull that out at some point, Maybe we'll dig

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Speaker 1: down into the archives and where we were last year.

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01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: But um, it's it's that simple. You keep this many here,

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01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta jettison a really good player

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01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: on another spot. If you keep that really good player

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: in another spot. You gotta do the exact same thing

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01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: in a different spot fifty And it used to they

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01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: used to do this with like thirty six guys. Back

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Speaker 1: in the sixties and seventies. They used to walk out

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Speaker 1: on the field with like nobody and they and those

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01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: guys were playing all you know, they didn't have anybody

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Speaker 1: who went both ways, but they almost did. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's so now, and that's and half of him. We're

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Speaker 1: playing on special people. People talk to me like this

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Speaker 1: all the time, And I said, listen, I played in

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Speaker 1: an era that was the special team's golden era because

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Speaker 1: it was the rosters got big. They got up to

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Speaker 1: forty seven guys on game day, forty five guys on

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Speaker 1: game day. It was like nine spots more than when

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Speaker 1: it had been in the sixties. So you get forty

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Speaker 1: five guys on game day. You had guys who strictly

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Speaker 1: played special teams, right, and it evolved very quickly with

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01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: some of the really good teams that will wait a minute,

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01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: we're if this guy's a good linebacker, but he can't

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01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 1: play special teams, who we're not getting any quality snaps

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01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: out of him because he's a backup. So they started wrote,

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01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: they started evolving very quickly over to the fact that

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Speaker 1: they had professional special teams players, and that's what I was.

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01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Every team had him. Now you got those guys, games

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01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 1: and championships have been won because of them. Well, now

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01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna like throw those back away all

1433
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: of a sudden and let the guy who can't play

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01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: back somebody up. I don't think so. The reason these

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Speaker 1: roster spots, like the fifty let's just say this, the

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Speaker 1: out of the fifty, three and three of them are

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Speaker 1: the special teams. So you got fifty guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: the next the last six or seven guys of that roster.

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01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: Those guys are valuable because on a game day, they

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01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: give you quality snaps wherever you need them, and the

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01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: coaching staffs have cut it to such fine hairs with

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01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: analytics and all of that. They know how many snaps

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01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: and how many quality reps each guy on the roster

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01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: has given them. So it's like some teams are gonna

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01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: play with thirty five meaningful guys taking snaps. Other teams

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01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: are gonna play with forty two meaningful guys taking snaps.

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01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: And the more you production, you get out of those

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01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: guys the better. So every roster spot has risen in

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01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: value over the decades because teams are figuring out how

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01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: to maximize them on game day. And it's through special teams.

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01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,480
Speaker 1: It's through personnel packages, it's through sub packages, both offensively

1452
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 1: and defensively, sub packages on your special teams. You know,

1453
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: different returns, different guys in on different returns. It's all

1454
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: of that. So you get down to these and you think,

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01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, is it gonna be six wide receivers or

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01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: seven or what? It makes a difference. There's gonna be

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01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: some point in a game where you're gonna get a

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01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: snap out of a guy and you'll make the play. Bang,

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01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: you're ten and six, not nine and seven. And this

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Speaker 1: guy we're here, boom, Now you're eleven and five not

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01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 1: ten and six because of a couple of snaps he

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01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: gave you and made a play or two across the

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01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, the spectrum of place, and you're really splitting hairs.

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Speaker 1: But that's exactly what your job is, right, So these

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01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: roster spot, these guys agonize over and you got assistant

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01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,799
Speaker 1: coaches jumping up on the table going, wait a minute,

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01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: you cut that guy, what about us? You yeah, you're crazy, right.

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01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: You get guys that go to bat for players. Yeah,

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01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's how this works. It boils

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Speaker 1: down to it. But you know that fifty three is

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Speaker 1: a magic number. Magic, yeah, because you got to pull

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff out of that to make it happen. Sometimes,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills might be in that very boat with

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Speaker 1: as deep as their roster is. People always fall back on, well,

1475
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: we got the practice squad, he can do it. Yeah.

1476
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: That you know what that practice squad is. That's everybody's

1477
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: practice squad. Yeah, your practice squad is the Cincinnati Bengals,

1478
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Rams, the Cardinals, that's their practice squad. Two.

1479
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: Because they can grease you over and they go, you

1480
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: know what, I like that guy. He's on our team now,

1481
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: on our active roster. He's we're gonna activate him. We

1482
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: like him, bring him over here, and you lose him.

1483
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: The guy's gone anyway. That stinks, right, And that's why

1484
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: the gravity of these decisions carry so much weight. We

1485
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: have to take a break here. But when we come back,

1486
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: what the heck is Madden doing with player likenesses? Good lord,

1487
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: it's a train wreck, and we're going to take a

1488
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: closer look at it. We'll do our best to describe

1489
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: the situation to our radio listeners. Our viewers on MSG

1490
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: will get the full breadth of what we're talking about.

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01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

1492
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. The people on social media

1493
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: who are hardcore gamers are up in arms about the

1494
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 1: player likenesses that exist on the newest edition of mad

1495
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: in NFL, and one Bills fan in particular was saying

1496
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:53,839
Speaker 1: fire everyone involved with designing the Bills in Madden twenty

1497
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: two eight sapp all caps, and he proceeded to put

1498
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 1: up some examples as to why he believes that should happen.

1499
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: So my favorite is okay. So one of the examples

1500
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: he put up, just so our radio listeners can follow

1501
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 1: along here was that of Dawson Knox, who anyone is

1502
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: seeing Dawson Knox without a helmet on. He has very tight,

1503
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: curly hair, almost reminiscent of Sideshow Bob from The Simpsons.

1504
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that tight and curly um, and it's

1505
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: it's got somebody to it. Yeah, it's it's got a

1506
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 1: life of its own. The Dawson Knox put forth on

1507
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 1: Matt in twenty two. When they give you his you know,

1508
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: photo headshot or whatever, he either came right out of

1509
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 1: the shower, because this hair is just draped all over

1510
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: his head, you know, like wet noodles. Right, it's not

1511
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: standing out no at all. Headband, he's got not to

1512
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: mention that band. It doesn't look like his face at all. Um. Yeah,

1513
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:59,839
Speaker 1: that's it's it's quite frankly a bad look. What picture

1514
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: they get that from to make him look like? I

1515
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: don't think I think it's a stock photo. Now if

1516
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: we move along to I mean, here's a side by

1517
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 1: side shot with our head thing. You got to put

1518
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: that on him? Man, what are you doing? And where

1519
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: the hell is the beard? Yeah? Um, I mean, even

1520
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: if you have only stock images that you can use,

1521
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure you got a head with a beard on it, right, Like,

1522
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: let's at least try here a little bit. Okay. So

1523
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: that's example number one. Example number two, aj epinessa. This

1524
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: one's out of left field here. And the reason I

1525
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: say that is because, first of all, the likeness just

1526
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: isn't there. That's number one. Second of all, as one

1527
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,879
Speaker 1: of the follow up tweeters pointed out, well that's Harrison Phillips.

1528
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 1: That go back one, So, um, Harrison Phillips looks more

1529
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: like Justin Zimber. Look look at the aj epinessa here

1530
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: like really that looks like that looks more like Jerry.

1531
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: I would be less upset if they told me that

1532
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: was Jerry Hughes right now. Here's where it gets really

1533
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: interesting because a subsequent tweeter said, if you go through

1534
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: the entire Bill's roster on Madden AJP and S's headshot

1535
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: looks just like Gabriel Davis but without eye black. And

1536
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: if you Gabriel David's shot and it's the exact same

1537
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: face without EyeBlack on it. So what we have come

1538
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 1: to understand is based on name, image and likeness, there

1539
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: are only a certain amount of players that get their

1540
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 1: own actual likeness. Everyone else is just a pick of

1541
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: one of their eighty or so pre selected faces. So

1542
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a name, image and likeness

1543
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: rights at work here where a player has to sign

1544
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: off on it. I do know that existed for the

1545
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: coaches in previous versions of the game, because Belichick would

1546
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: never allow his likeness right or image to be used

1547
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 1: in a maddening game and so anytime they cut to

1548
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: the sidelines. God, look at this, Dion Dawkins, are you

1549
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: kidding me? Come on, man, you gotta do better. And

1550
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: again facial hair noticeably appsent you gotta do better, huh like,

1551
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,839
Speaker 1: at least give the guy some facial Yeah, yeah, I mean, okay,

1552
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: well that's too bad. We can't to wait for the technology. Well,

1553
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: the thing, Wait a minute, the thing is apps that'll

1554
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: make your face into a cart too. Why can't they

1555
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: just use one of those and put that would look

1556
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: more like that? Yeah, you know, sign him up with

1557
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 1: bit Moja or somebody something even. Yeah, Harrison Phillips. That

1558
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: looks more like Justin Zimmer than Harrison Phillips, right, doesn't it? Yes,

1559
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: it does? It does? It looks? Yeah, it looks a

1560
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: lot like like Justin's er. I mean, if you're telling

1561
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: me that was Justin Zimmer, you know, I'd be oh, yeah, okay,

1562
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: I could get there. It's not exact, but it's close

1563
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: closer than Harrison Phillips, Yeah it is. Yeah. I don't

1564
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: know what's going on. I'm trying to think back. What

1565
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: would would I have been upset a little bit? Yeah?

1566
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 1: You know, who would have been upset? Well, my kids like,

1567
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: uh yeah, Justin Zimmer's Justin Zimmer his headshot and there

1568
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: because the haircuts the same. Yeah, I mean, this is

1569
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 1: just see Justin Zimmer next to Harrison Phillips. Madden emoji

1570
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: is the thing that almost spot on right. So the

1571
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: thing that bothers me is the people at mad Like

1572
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 1: they do so much to get all the details nailed

1573
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: down in so many different areas of the game. This

1574
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: is like a giant swing and a miss at a

1575
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: meat ball of a pitch. Think about this though, Um,

1576
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: I guess it's a sports, right, I believe that. Yeah,

1577
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: So think about what we're talking about with that, and

1578
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: I get it to you know that we're talking about them,

1579
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: so they must be successful. But we're talking about the

1580
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: way the face of the players look inside their helmets

1581
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: and outside their helmets and their headshots and all that

1582
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: as supposed they look in real life. The game. That's

1583
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 1: that's how far they've come. That game has come light

1584
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:33,799
Speaker 1: years ahead of you know, I mean, think about Techno

1585
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Bowl and all those old video games. Think about how

1586
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 1: they have come in this because you you got now

1587
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: it's like a sport. It's like for money pro sport.

1588
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: This to me, is like a giant step backwards. It

1589
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 1: really is, really you got it? Yeah, not having these

1590
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: likenesses right, I don't know. I think I know there's

1591
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: a lot of players in the league, and you can't

1592
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 1: probably get everybody to sign off on it, or you

1593
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: certainly don't want to pay everybody to sign off on

1594
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: using their likeness or image. But if you're purported to be,

1595
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 1: you know, the upper echelon the end game of all

1596
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: football games, I think you got to take that step. Yeah,

1597
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: but I'll say this this, and my point is, if

1598
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about this step, they've got a lot of

1599
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: steps right getting to this point, you know what I mean. Well, yeah,

1600
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 1: but this is a misstep as far as I'm concerned.

1601
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: I think so too. They need to get deeper. They

1602
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: need to go deeper in the details. The first endless

1603
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: face of the details or what makes it pretty amazing. Yeah,

1604
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 1: that's what makes it. That's the whole thing. Break time

1605
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: for us here. When we come back, we're gonna begin

1606
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: our trip around the AFC East to check in on

1607
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: the division rivals of the Bills and what's going on

1608
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 1: in their training camps and their preseason plans. And we

1609
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: begin with the Jets and former Bills and Jets defensive

1610
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 1: lineman Lee Jay Douzable is gonna help us with that

1611
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 1: as he does pre and post game for the Jets

1612
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 1: radio network. We'll talk with him when we return here

1613
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo

1614
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. At a Steve Tasker who has been all

1615
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: over the field. Kind of unique. He was kind of

1616
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp.

1617
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: We're not even in the threaded fear of normalcy. All right.

1618
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: There we go our number three on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

1619
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you when we begin our tour around

1620
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: the AFC East to see how the division rivals are

1621
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: faring in their respective training camps in preseason and here

1622
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,759
Speaker 1: to help us kick it off. Is a familiar face

1623
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 1: for an NFL defensive end with the Bills in twenty sixteen,

1624
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, and one of the co

1625
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 1: hosts of the ever popular segment on this very show

1626
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: called Dues and Don'ts contribute to snyse coverage of the

1627
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: Jets as he is a Jets and NFL analyst. It

1628
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 1: is one Liege Dooza Ball joining us here on the show.

1629
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: Welcome back, leje How you doing man, I'm doing good.

1630
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 1: It's good to be back on with you guys. You know,

1631
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: Steve and Chris has been a minute man, how you

1632
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: guys been. We're no good? Yeah, can't complain, can't complain.

1633
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,799
Speaker 1: So we need the four one one on the Jets here. Obviously,

1634
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, Zach Wilson gets a lot of the attention,

1635
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: and understandably so. I think the addition that I'm most

1636
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 1: impressed with this offseason by the Jets though, is Robert

1637
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: Sala the new head coach. I think, for the first

1638
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:50,759
Speaker 1: time in a long time, the Jets made a very

1639
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: good hire. I think he could be the best head

1640
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: coach the Jets have had since Herman Edwards. He just

1641
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: seems to have everything buttoned up in terms of how

1642
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: he wants things to operate on a daily basis. He

1643
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: says all the right things with a very difficult media.

1644
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm just curious your initial impressions with how he has

1645
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 1: handled this job since he's been on the job. Well, Chris,

1646
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, I don't believe that was

1647
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 1: anybody more excited for this higher than myself. Actually played

1648
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 1: for Robert solid of the year. After I left the

1649
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in twenty seventeen, I went to the San

1650
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,480
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers and he was my defensive coordinator.

1651
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: And this guy brings energy every single day and this infectious.

1652
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 1: You hear players talk about it. They want to play

1653
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 1: for this guy. And this guy's a great teacher on

1654
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: the football field, like you're gonna know exactly what you

1655
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: need to do from a schematic point when you're on

1656
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: that football field. And he's just a great leader of men.

1657
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 1: He does a great job getting guys to buy into

1658
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 1: a system, getting guys to play hard like that was

1659
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 1: a big issue last year with the coaching staff with

1660
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. It seemed like guys were just

1661
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: not They were out there and they weren't really laying

1662
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 1: it on the line and they didn't have that motivation

1663
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: to play for their coach. But you can already hear

1664
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 1: it from the players. They really enjoy playing first Sala

1665
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 1: because he brings that juice every day. To this day,

1666
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 1: still the only coach that I know that whereas cleats

1667
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: out to the practice field because he's running up and

1668
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: down the field faster than the players, and in every pregame,

1669
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 1: his pregame ritual. This guy is running stadium stairs around

1670
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 1: the stadium. So if guys see this guy putting in

1671
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: that much effort and energy, it's infectious. You want to

1672
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: play for a guy like that, and then it's gonna

1673
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, trickle down to the locker room and also

1674
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 1: on the football field. How long do you expect for

1675
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:39,679
Speaker 1: him to totally get one hundred percent of his roster,

1676
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: his guys on I certainly some of the guys that

1677
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,919
Speaker 1: were there worthy of that. They're gonna buy into everything

1678
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: he does, and some of them will want to buy

1679
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: in won't be good enough to you know what I'm saying.

1680
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: How how long is this gonna be? Is it going

1681
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 1: to be? I'm certainly maybe not in one year, although

1682
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 1: I would say he's probably gonna be ahead of schedule.

1683
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,719
Speaker 1: But you know, how long is it gonna be before

1684
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 1: this becomes Robert Sala's Jets as he wants them to look. Yeah,

1685
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,799
Speaker 1: Jet Nations should definitely understand it. This is a process.

1686
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: This is not gonna be all done in one year.

1687
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the two to three year process. And

1688
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,679
Speaker 1: you already stated it's Steve, he might be a little

1689
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve because he's already come out and

1690
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: said he's gonna really depend on a lot of these

1691
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: rookies that played. Maybe up to eight rookies will get

1692
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: significant playing time on this team this year, Steve and Chris.

1693
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: And it's all about changing the culture, right. The culture

1694
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 1: last year was not good at all. Guys weren't really

1695
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: you know. It was a lack of effort on the field.

1696
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 1: And with this new coach staving with Robert Slid, that

1697
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: won't be an issue. Like, guys are gonna want to

1698
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: play for him. Guys are gonna want to go out there.

1699
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 1: It's infectious and you saw it already in the first

1700
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 1: preseason game, but defense looked really fast. I'll be a

1701
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 1: preseason the defense was flying around and I'm not just

1702
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 1: talking about the one defense. I'm talking about the twos,

1703
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: the threes. Everybody out there was flying around with their

1704
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 1: hair on fire getting to the football. And that's what

1705
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: he has to do first, right, he has to change

1706
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 1: that culture. Then guys will buy in, and then also

1707
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 1: more guys that want to come and play for our

1708
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 1: coach like that because they see it on the table

1709
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: and they also hear you know some of their friends

1710
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: that are current Jets right now, Like, trust me, man,

1711
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 1: you want to come and play for this guy. He's

1712
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: gonna put you in the right position to make plays

1713
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: and it's fun. I love coming to work like the

1714
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,759
Speaker 1: one thing you don't want to do as a players

1715
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: dread coming to work, like you want to be able

1716
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: to like, no, I always have to, you know, like

1717
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: the guy that you is your head coach, but you

1718
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 1: want to respect that guy and be able to come

1719
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: in and be like, I'm willing to play for this

1720
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 1: guy whether I like him or not, because we might

1721
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: have some differences, but I respect this guy and I

1722
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: love the way he's coaching us and what he brings

1723
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: to the table. So I want to come in and

1724
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,799
Speaker 1: play for this guy. So we know that the Jets

1725
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: got on a plane flew up to Green Bay early

1726
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 1: this week to get some joint practices in with the

1727
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 1: Packers in advance of their preseason game this weekend. This

1728
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: is obviously something that's of enormous value to a roster

1729
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 1: that's very much in the development stage, just like that

1730
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,759
Speaker 1: of the Jets. Mike Laflour and Sala very good friends.

1731
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 1: I think Salo was even the best man in his wedding. Uh.

1732
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: These two guys are tight from their time together or

1733
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Matt Yeah, sorry, Um? And so the relationship there because

1734
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: for Green Bay, a team that's been to two straight

1735
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: NFC title games. While there might be value and joint practices,

1736
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,879
Speaker 1: that's a team that's pretty far along in their development.

1737
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: Is this just an example of La Flour doing a

1738
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: solid for Salah here? I mean you can write it

1739
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: up maybe, is that, Chris? But I really love it

1740
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: for the Jets, right, you just stated it. This is

1741
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 1: a team, the Green Bay Packers, that have been to

1742
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: two NFC Championship games two years in a row. This

1743
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: is a team that has a trajectory to try to

1744
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: win another Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers. And what better

1745
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: way to get to work, right, You're not just getting

1746
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: a preseason game against these guys. You're going against them

1747
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: during the week of practice. You're gonna be seeing Aaron Rodgers.

1748
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna see DeVante Adams on the outside, Aaron Jones

1749
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 1: at running back, and then this veteran offensive line that

1750
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:00,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay has. This could not be immensely good for

1751
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 1: the New York Jets than any other team because they're

1752
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna be getting work against a championship caliber team. And

1753
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,719
Speaker 1: this is how you kind of, you know, weigh yourself

1754
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL to see where we're at, where do

1755
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 1: we need to go, where do we need to develop,

1756
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: and where do we need to get better. So, yeah,

1757
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: it might have been a solid by Matt Lafloor, but

1758
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: you have to love that, you know, the Jets for

1759
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 1: giving this opportunity to go in training camp and practice

1760
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 1: against a team like the Green Bay Packers. When you

1761
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: see him when even in the first game against the

1762
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: Giants they played last weekend and this game coming up

1763
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: against the Packers, who do you anticipate? What are the

1764
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 1: what is the strongest position group for the Jets, both

1765
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 1: on either side of the ball or both. Yeah, without

1766
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: a doubt, it's the defensive line, Steve. And the thing

1767
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: about Robert Sala's defense is predicated off the defensive line

1768
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 1: creating having This is a young defensive line, but they

1769
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 1: have some dogs on this defensive line. If you look

1770
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: at Carl Lost and I know you guys have probably

1771
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: heard it, he has been killing and training camp, he's

1772
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: been almost unblockable. And the thing is in a Cincinnati

1773
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 1: he was in the low market. He also didn't have

1774
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: the defensive tackles that the Jets have right now. And

1775
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: as far as his sack numbers not being gott he

1776
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:06,759
Speaker 1: only having five and a half, I believe he'll double

1777
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 1: those because of what the Jets have in the interior.

1778
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: If you look at a young emerging star in quinnin Williams,

1779
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,600
Speaker 1: you look at a guy like John Franklin Myers, a

1780
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: guy that can play outside and inside, the most versatile

1781
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: guy on that defensive line. He'll probably kick inside on

1782
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: third down to help with that pass rush. Then also

1783
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 1: they brought in Sheldon Rankins from the New Orleans Saints.

1784
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: A Gutta has three technique pass rush ability, and you

1785
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 1: saw some of that in the first week versus Giants game.

1786
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: I believe on the second player of the game getting

1787
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 1: into the backfield, creating havoc and hitting the quarterback. But

1788
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: a young guy that I'm also really giddy about it

1789
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 1: is this young kid, Bryce Huff who was the undrafted

1790
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 1: free agent from Memphis two years ago. I believe he

1791
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 1: starts opposite of Carl Lawson and all obvious passing downs

1792
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: and on the first third down of the game versus Giants.

1793
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: He showed early right versus that starting the line, got

1794
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 1: into the backfield, made a sack real quick, had two

1795
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: sex in that game. This guy is a potential star.

1796
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: He actually had I believe two would be sacks again

1797
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 1: the package to day in practice. So this defensive line

1798
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 1: is deep. And also we got the veteran Vinny Curry

1799
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: who hasn't even suited it up yet. He's coming back

1800
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: from injury. So this defensive line is going to be

1801
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: about seven or eight deep. Foley Fadakowski is a grown

1802
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 1: man in the middle in that run game. So to me,

1803
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: undoubtedly the defensive line is the strongest group on this team.

1804
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: And if you want to go to the offensive side

1805
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: of the ball, I would have to say it's probably

1806
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: the receiver group. I can't remember the last time talking

1807
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: about a New York Jets receiving group group being this deep. Right,

1808
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: We bringing Corey Davis who had almost a thousand yards

1809
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans last year. He's gonna be the

1810
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: number one receiver. Elijah Moore has been a superstar in

1811
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: training camp. He falls to pick thirty four, that you

1812
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: know the Jets jump on him. He's not just a

1813
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 1: slot guy. This guy can play all three positions, has

1814
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 1: some punt return ability. He's actually injured right now, but

1815
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 1: they expect him to be back very soon. And then

1816
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 1: Keelan Cole is a guy that's underrated. He was a

1817
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,799
Speaker 1: guy that I was really excited about that they draft.

1818
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 1: They got in free agency from the Jacksonville Jaguars. This

1819
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 1: is a guy that was under usual a lot you

1820
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: underutilize in Jacksonville. Also has some punt return ability. He's

1821
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna be able to move the sticks

1822
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: on third down, those intermediate routes, getting in and out

1823
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 1: of breaks. And then Jamison crowded to me, is one

1824
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 1: of the best slot receivers in all the football. He

1825
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: comes back to Denzel Mims as a young kid, big

1826
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: six foot one six ft two, two hundred and fifteen

1827
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 1: pounds a Blazer at fourty three. He showed really well.

1828
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: He had kind of slipped down on the depth charp,

1829
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: but he showed really well in that first Pieceason game

1830
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 1: versus Giants, showing the type of anger he can run

1831
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 1: with after he catches the ball, converting on a third

1832
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: and eighteen getting twenty yards and had another big play

1833
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: of fifteen yards. So This receiving group is the deepest

1834
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: I've ever seen it on the New York Jets team. So,

1835
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: lej what about the Jets offensive line. They've made a

1836
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 1: lot of investment in making it better. You know, two

1837
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,560
Speaker 1: first round picks in each of the last couple of

1838
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: years here with Beckton and Vera Tucker, and they added

1839
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 1: Morgan Moses Laid in free agency. A lot of pieces

1840
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 1: to put together, and we know that can take time

1841
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 1: for offense of lines. So what are the early returns

1842
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 1: on that blend? Yeah, I think they're a lot better.

1843
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 1: And you can't when you when you talk about the

1844
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 1: officive line in the two first round picks, you have

1845
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 1: to throw in Van Rotten and McGovern in there too,

1846
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 1: who Joe Douglas brought in last year. And I think

1847
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 1: they've been rejuvenated and refreshed by this new offensive scheme

1848
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 1: with Michael Lafloor, I think they'll show a lot better.

1849
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: And also George frant the left tackle they brought over

1850
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 1: from Seattle, he'll show a lot better in this offensive scheme.

1851
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 1: And this is the first time the New York Jets

1852
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 1: office line actually has some depth. Right. It hurt us

1853
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 1: when Alex Lewis decided to retire. But as far as having,

1854
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, two right tackles that potentially started, George frant

1855
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,679
Speaker 1: and Morgan Moses. And then if you look at left

1856
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 1: tackle McKay back, then there's a nun another young emerging

1857
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 1: star and left tackle, a guy that will get after

1858
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: you in the run game and has good feet for

1859
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 1: his size. And then Elijah Elijah vera Tucker. He's been

1860
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 1: beat up a little bit in camp with the peck.

1861
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: He did do some individual today, so I expect him

1862
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 1: to come back this week. If not playing in the

1863
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 1: game this preseason this week, but next week, I think

1864
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 1: he'll play in the preseason game. That left side is

1865
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna be strong for six or seven years down the road,

1866
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be road graders and they will run the

1867
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 1: ball to that left side. So this offensive line is

1868
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: significantly better than it was last year and the years before.

1869
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: Who's gonna back up Zach Wilson. Well, right now, it

1870
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 1: looks like the air apparent is Mike Right. I know

1871
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: there's a I have a lot of faith in James

1872
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 1: Morgan and his arm talent, but he has had some

1873
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 1: accuracy issues. But Mike Right, to me is the quarterback

1874
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,680
Speaker 1: at the backup position that has looked the best out

1875
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: of all the quarterbacks so far in training camp as

1876
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: far as matriculating the ball down the field, getting the

1877
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, and hitting open receivers. Now, I

1878
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: know it scares a lot of Jet fans because he

1879
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,600
Speaker 1: really hasn't played at all. Neither has James Morgan. They

1880
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 1: brought in the veteran Josh Johnson, and he'll get more

1881
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 1: reps this week, but it seems like to me right now,

1882
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,560
Speaker 1: Mike Wright will be the backup quarterback. Now, don't be surprised,

1883
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, towards the end of training camp if they

1884
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 1: decide to maybe try to trade for a guy, you know,

1885
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo could be out there. Nick Foles could you know,

1886
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 1: potentially be traded for. I do see them maybe bringing

1887
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: in the veteran later on. But Robert Sala came out

1888
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: and said he really wanted to get these young guys

1889
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: some reps, and he felt like if he brought a

1890
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: veteran m that had a big name, that they were

1891
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 1: going to automatically side him in to the number two spot.

1892
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 1: That some of these younger guys like Mike White, right,

1893
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 1: and also James Morgan would lose a lot of reps

1894
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: and hurt with their development. So I give a kudos

1895
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 1: to him for letting these young guys actually go out there,

1896
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 1: duke it out, get some reps, and help develop these

1897
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: young guys. So potentially down the road, if something does

1898
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: happen to Zach Wilson, that these guys have gotten the reps,

1899
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 1: they know what to do, they know where to throw

1900
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 1: the ball, how to get the ball out of their hands,

1901
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: get it to their playmakers, and then the train keeps rolling.

1902
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's gonna be as good as

1903
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, of course not. But maybe these guys can

1904
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: come in and do a good enough job that Wilson

1905
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 1: ever got hurt for a game or two and help

1906
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 1: supplement him. So, just to be clear, Sala hasn't closed

1907
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 1: the door on adding a veteran quarterback if he fears,

1908
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,679
Speaker 1: if he feels there's value you needed there behind Wilson.

1909
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: And the only reason I asked that is because, as

1910
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: we saw here in Buffalo, the Bills surrounded Josh Allen

1911
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: with veteran quarterbacks behind him to kind of mentor him

1912
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,679
Speaker 1: help him in the film room. So he could see

1913
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:16,679
Speaker 1: what he was looking at or maybe get some tips

1914
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 1: in that regard, and not really seeing that until Josh

1915
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: Johnson kind of came on board there. I was just

1916
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 1: wondering what the philosophy was on the part of Salah. Yeah,

1917
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 1: I would say he's not against that later on, but

1918
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 1: I know his philosophy was he wanted to get these

1919
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: young guys as much reps as possible and help develop

1920
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: these young guys because if he ultimately brought a veteran

1921
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 1: in right away, they would kind of be what left

1922
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 1: by the wayside and wouldn't get as many reps as

1923
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: they're getting right now. But he's definitely he has not

1924
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 1: closed the door on definitely bringing in a veteran to

1925
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: back up Zach Wilson. Two years ago, Opening Day, the

1926
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 1: Bills played in the Jets in New York and the

1927
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 1: guy that dominated the game and really was gonna win

1928
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 1: it for the Jets was C. J. Mosley, the guy

1929
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 1: they brought in off free agent. He hurt him. He

1930
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: got hurt in that game and even from since then,

1931
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 1: it has never been the same for him. He was

1932
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 1: and when he came out of that game, everything changed

1933
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 1: for the Jets and the Bills managed to win that

1934
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: game on opening day. C J. Mosley has come out

1935
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 1: and said he loves the feel of this Jet team,

1936
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 1: the way the vibe is and how good they had

1937
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 1: could be this year. What difference could he make? Does

1938
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 1: he still have gas in the tank after missing almost well,

1939
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: after missing a year with injury and then of course

1940
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 1: the opt out year. Yeah, Steve, I'm glad that you

1941
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 1: brought that up because people tend to forget he was

1942
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,759
Speaker 1: the best player on the field that day versus the Bills,

1943
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 1: not just on the defense. Yeah, Like the Bills started

1944
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 1: making play as soon as he got hurt and came

1945
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 1: out of the game, and it changed the game. Right,

1946
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 1: the Jets had the league, but as soon as c J.

1947
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,560
Speaker 1: Mosley went out the game, you know, everything changed, And

1948
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 1: I think people tend to forget, right. It's kind of

1949
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 1: like the Janet Jackson song, what have you done for Me? Lately?

1950
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: Like he's been removed from football for two years, but

1951
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 1: people forget this was a consummate pro bowler year end

1952
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: and year out. He's dropped some late, He's like really

1953
01:51:58,280 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: good in training camp. He's kind of looking like the

1954
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: old c J. Moseley, And I really like what they

1955
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 1: did was also bringing in Jerry Davis to be his

1956
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 1: linebacker mate in the middle of that defense. I think,

1957
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, as any player, right you have a lot

1958
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 1: of pride about the work you put in and everything.

1959
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 1: So when teams are quote unquote, you know, sleeping on you,

1960
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 1: you take it as a sign of disrespect. So I

1961
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 1: understand why he's saying that. And then I happened to

1962
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 1: be on the skyline doing the Green and White scrimmage

1963
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 1: and one of the fans was kind of heckling them.

1964
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 1: He was like, don't forget I am a dog. But

1965
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,879
Speaker 1: he didn't use those exact words. You use some other words.

1966
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 1: And like I said, people tend to forget how good

1967
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 1: you are as a player, or good you were because

1968
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: you've been out for a couple of years. But he's

1969
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 1: been rejuvenated, I think after missing two years, and this

1970
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: guy is playing at a high level right now. So

1971
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 1: leg I know you've already told us that the defensive

1972
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 1: line is probably the deepest group on this Jets roster.

1973
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to be really good to help some

1974
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 1: of these young corners on the back end who are

1975
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: going to get literally thrown into the fire. It appears

1976
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: anyway from the outside looking in in a league that

1977
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 1: throws as much as this league does. Now, that looks

1978
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 1: like a really weak spot for the Jets. How do

1979
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: they cover that up effectively? At least until these guys

1980
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 1: get their feet wet and a little more seasoning on

1981
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, the thing about Robert Sala's defense is

1982
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 1: he not going to ask these young corners to go

1983
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 1: man coverage fifty percent of the game. I played for

1984
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:25,560
Speaker 1: him in twenty seventeen with the forty nine Ers. It

1985
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 1: has followed them the last couple of years. If you

1986
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,759
Speaker 1: look at the forty nine ers corners, besides Richard Sherman,

1987
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 1: they didn't really have big name corners. They had guys

1988
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,839
Speaker 1: that you know, were good players and competed longer corners

1989
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: kind of like the Jets half. And that's because in

1990
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: Robert sala scheme, you're gonna be playing cover three, Cover four,

1991
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 1: a lot of zone coverage. He'll ask you to go

1992
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: man to man coverage probably seven or eight snaps a game,

1993
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,839
Speaker 1: and he does expect you to win in those instances.

1994
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 1: But if you look at what San Francisco had as

1995
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 1: far as their D line and them creating have it

1996
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's comparable to what the Jets have

1997
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: right now. I believe this Jets D line is better

1998
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 1: than the forty nine D line last year, especially when

1999
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: Boza went down. But that Super Bowl, you know, team

2000
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: that went to the Super Bowl in twenty nineteen, it

2001
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 1: was predicated off that defensive line creating havoc that way,

2002
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks aren't allowed to hold the ball that long. And

2003
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: I think that's something that Robert sala will bring over

2004
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 1: from the forty nine is with his defensive line. The

2005
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 1: defensive line that he has right now, he has a

2006
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: nice rotation. He's gonna get after guys with that front

2007
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 1: flo that way, you know, it's not so much pressure

2008
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: on that back end. Like you talked about, Chris, it's

2009
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 1: a young group, right, and Robert Salas scheme right, it

2010
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: doesn't take it doesn't take, you know, all the onus

2011
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 1: off the secondary, but it takes some pressure off of them,

2012
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: so they won't have to be going man coverage, you know,

2013
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the game as you know some other

2014
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: defensive schemes would do. Because he's gonna have them in

2015
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 1: zone coverage. And yes, they're gonna have to compete in

2016
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: those zones, but he's really predicating everything off that defensive

2017
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: line getting there and creating havoc. That way, that secondary

2018
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 1: won't have to hold up as long as they would

2019
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: for other teams. What the last one for me, is

2020
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 1: there a surprise rook that's come into jet training camp

2021
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: and said and everybody's like, hey, wow, where this guy

2022
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: come from? I know, Vera Tucker, top round draft pick.

2023
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: There's some expectations attached to him, like there is everybody,

2024
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: but there is there any other rookie that's off the

2025
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: radar that has put himself in the middle of things. Yeah,

2026
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 1: so off the radar guy. I know everybody would say

2027
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 1: Elijah Morihad, But to me, he's not off the radar.

2028
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: He was the second round pick. But Isaiah Dunn has

2029
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 1: done a great job. Undrafted free agent corner he has

2030
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: been competing at the cornerback position. I know you just

2031
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 1: talked about that, Chris worried about the young secondary, but

2032
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: this guy has competed at a high level. I would

2033
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 1: say him and Brandon Echos, the guy that they took

2034
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 1: from the University of Kentucky. These two corners have been

2035
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: feisty when it comes to man coverage and competing with

2036
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 1: the ball in the air. Have done a really good

2037
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 1: job as far as coming in learning the system and

2038
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 1: also you know, applying it on the field as far

2039
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 1: as not allowing a lot of catches, a lot of

2040
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 1: PBUs and just being feisty at the line of scrimmage.

2041
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 1: And especially both of those guys playing in the nickel position,

2042
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 1: that's something that you gotta do, like you have to

2043
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: be able to get into the severs face. You got

2044
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 1: to be able to cover in short areas, especially in

2045
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: that slot position. These two guys have done a great job,

2046
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: but Brandon Eagles has done a really good job playing

2047
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: outside too, not just in the inside. So those are

2048
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 1: the two, you know, rookie guys that I've been looking

2049
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 1: at and been impressed with the most. Outside of Elijah Mario.

2050
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: Vera Tucker has been banged up, he hasn't really practiced

2051
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 1: that much. And then also Hasawi nasural Dean. He was

2052
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 1: a guy that played safety at Florida State. They converted

2053
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 1: him to linebacker because in Robert Sala's defense, those linebackers

2054
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: got to be able to run, they got to be

2055
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 1: able to cover those tight ends down the seam, and

2056
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: this guy would have went a lot higher than the

2057
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 1: sixth round if he hadn't had the injury at Florida State.

2058
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 1: This guy will come up and hit you in the mouth,

2059
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 1: and he has crazy speed from sideline to sideline. He's

2060
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 1: the guy right now that's penciled in to potentially start

2061
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 1: and the will linebacker in this defense. And this is

2062
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 1: a guy that has also had some highlight riels in

2063
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: the preseason game he had to force fumble, has had

2064
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 1: some pretty good tackles in the open field, and also

2065
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 1: showed really well in special teams. Jet. Thanks very much

2066
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: for bringing us up to speed on this. We'll keep

2067
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 1: a careful eye on the Jets this weekend up in

2068
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay. See how much playing time that young quarterback

2069
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: gets this time around. Thanks for the time and keeping

2070
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: us informed. Appreciate you man, of course. Man, thanks for

2071
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 1: having me on again. All right. That's Leger douzable contributor

2072
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: to SNYSE coverage of the Jets. It's made numerous appearances

2073
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 1: on ESPN and NFL Network, including Good Morning Football, Current Jets,

2074
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 1: and NFL Analyst. Yeah, Elijah Moore is an interesting guy

2075
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 1: slot receiver, but can play all the spots, as Jay mentioned,

2076
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 1: because they have Jamison Crowder, I mean a veteran slot

2077
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 1: receiver who led the team I think with eighty two

2078
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: catches last year. Crowder is a good player, yeah, but

2079
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 1: more it was lighting it up before he went down

2080
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 1: with an injury. Kids quick as a hiccup. He's kind

2081
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 1: of like an Isaiah mackenzie type, a little more thickly

2082
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: built and another product out of Old miss which has

2083
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 1: been pumping out receivers the last couple of years. Yeah.

2084
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I, like I said, told Liege and alluded to,

2085
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 1: you think when you get the right guy, and you

2086
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: and I both think I have a lot of respect

2087
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 1: for Robert Sala And it's like Sean McDermott coming into

2088
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo now going on five years ago. When you get

2089
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 1: the right guy, things jump a little faster than maybe

2090
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 1: people were giving it credit for because you're going into

2091
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 1: a franchise that was down a little bit, obviously because

2092
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 1: he made a head coaching change. And you know, Sean

2093
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 1: McDermott comes to Buffalo, goes to the playoffs his first

2094
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 1: year with a gutted roster. Sala I think it's I'm

2095
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: not calling him there a playoff team or anything like that,

2096
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 1: but they I think they're gonna be better with him

2097
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 1: at head coach, and they're gonna win some games. And

2098
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 1: nobody at this point, from this end of the season,

2099
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 1: nobody thinks they can win down the line. I think

2100
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna win a couple of those games. I think

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Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna be a better football team. And

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Speaker 1: the division just got tougher when they hired him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: break time for us here when Steve and I returned

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Speaker 1: some of your final thoughts on the tweet sheet, and

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Speaker 1: a little time for some NFL true false. It's all

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Speaker 1: coming your way next here on One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Cloud of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Chris Browns a chaster with you as we're discussing which

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Speaker 1: position would you go heavier on at the expense of

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Speaker 1: another to put together the bills fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: JT says, I say something else linebacker because of what

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Speaker 1: happened last season when Milano missed time and Dodson went

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Speaker 1: down a week later. Then Kleine jumped in and handled

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Speaker 1: business until Milano returned. We need to go heavier at linebacker. Also,

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Speaker 1: Trubisky puts up three hundred on the Bears. So somebody's

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Speaker 1: on your train, Steve with Mitchell Trubisky facing man, we're

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Speaker 1: doing the game on TV, and you want to see

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01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: it so bad, you've it's hurting you. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to see. I don't know where we'll be doing the

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Speaker 1: game from. It's a one o'clock game on Saturday, East Coast.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be noon local time in Chicago, and I

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Speaker 1: think it'll be probably somewhere around one one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty three degrees on the field, something like it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be smoking hot. Just I just I just want him

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Speaker 1: to light him on fire, just absolutely dows him and

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Speaker 1: gas match on him. That okay, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: why why he's our boy? Now, okay, he's our guy.

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Speaker 1: I get it. You know how much caution do you

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Speaker 1: throw to the wind to let a guy get his

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Speaker 1: get his rocks off on his former employer in a

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Speaker 1: game that doesn't mean anything as far as you have

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Speaker 1: to really, why not? What are you talking about? You

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Speaker 1: don't have to give him extra players, You don't have

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Speaker 1: to give him Steph Diggs and you know all those guys.

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Speaker 1: But give him some plays, some play calls or one

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Speaker 1: or the other or give him the number one offensive line,

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Speaker 1: give him Beasley for a series or two, give him

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, give him Emmanuel Sanders and Devin Singletary and

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Speaker 1: the number one offensive line, and then just run the

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Speaker 1: vanilla plays. Say hey, let's see it. You know, all right,

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02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 1: either either give him plays to run or give him

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Speaker 1: guys to run vanilla plays. But give him something and

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Speaker 1: turn him loose, even if it's a limited And also

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Speaker 1: from day ball, I mean he came out, he ran

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02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: the ball ten straight times against De Troy. Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Pick him apart, you find, you know, pick some plays. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if it happens. I just you know, just

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Speaker 1: come on, man, please. So j T is of the

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Speaker 1: belief that linebacker is where the team should go heavier.

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Speaker 1: And you and I have discussed this a lot. Because

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Speaker 1: they only play two. They were in nickel ninety one

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Speaker 1: percent of the defensive snaps last year and that's probably

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Speaker 1: not going to change a lot. It may come down

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Well, they led the league in nickel

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Speaker 1: based defense. It may go up. I mean it was,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was ninety one percent. Because the Bills

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Speaker 1: were hanging thirty points on a game on people and

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Speaker 1: in some cases forty points, in one case fifty. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you're you know, JT is only I think facing

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Speaker 1: a passing offense, whether the passing offense or not. I

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Speaker 1: think JT is only of this opinion because he's a

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Speaker 1: little gun shy after he saw the injuries that took

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Speaker 1: place last year. Edmonds and Milano go out the same time,

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Speaker 1: neither can play against Miami in Week two, and you've

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Speaker 1: got Tyrell Dotson making his first NFL start along with

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Speaker 1: AJ Klein, who was putting a role that wasn't beneficial

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Speaker 1: to his skill set. He was never meant to play,

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Speaker 1: and it didn't go so well. They won the game

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Speaker 1: thanks to the offense, but the defense was a little

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Speaker 1: bit in a scramble mode at the second level. Dotson

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Speaker 1: goes out and then yeah it even Dotson gets tweaked

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Speaker 1: with a I think it was a hamstring strain or something.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it left them shorthanded on experience. But I

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Speaker 1: think you also have to look at how linebackers are

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Speaker 1: utilized in this defense where there are only two on

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Speaker 1: the field, unless the other team starts going with power

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Speaker 1: formations like you know, twenty one personnel or twelve personnel.

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Speaker 1: Then you might go to base defense and put three

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Speaker 1: linebackers on the field. That doesn't happen very often across

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Speaker 1: the league, might happen against New England. But even with that,

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Speaker 1: and with special teams to think about, could here's a

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Speaker 1: question for you, could the roster get away with five linebackers?

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Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. I would five to me,

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Speaker 1: because that might be the position you sacrifice to carry.

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Speaker 1: An extra would be heavy heavy. You need four, one

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Speaker 1: at each and then the ones behind can play either

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Speaker 1: inside or week Yeah, you know, Milana or Edmond spot.

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Speaker 1: But if you can do if you can do that,

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Speaker 1: but five, yes, I think five is the number. Six

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Speaker 1: you're talking going three deep on your base defense. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I think what factors in there is how many

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Speaker 1: core special teamers of yours are quote unquote linebackers? Andre

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Speaker 1: Smith probably one of them. Yeah, right, here's the thing too,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Manakavitch probably one of them. Absolutely. So I mean

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Speaker 1: that's two right there, Edmonds, Milano, you're at four. One

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Speaker 1: more to get to five and then then you're done.

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Speaker 1: Probably six is a big number. So now you're talking

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Speaker 1: Dodson or Joe Giles Harris, you go six linebackers. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're up to six then okay, so let me I'm

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Speaker 1: saying six linebackers. Say what Let's say they go ten

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Speaker 1: D linemen we've been talking about. That's sixteen guys you

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Speaker 1: can't go. And then you've got sixteen got you got

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Speaker 1: nine guys to get to twenty five defenders, which means

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Speaker 1: they're all defensive backs, right, and nine dbs might even

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Speaker 1: be perceived as a little light and go. I mean

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Speaker 1: you probably want at least four safeties. So that's where

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Speaker 1: it comes down to you at least five squeeze a

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Speaker 1: lineback around and go five, or do you squeeze a

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Speaker 1: D lineman and go nine D lineman and get ten dbs? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the and the whole other element of this conversation

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Speaker 1: is the anticipated expanded practice squad of sixteen, in which

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Speaker 1: four protected and six players with unlimited NFL experience allowed

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Speaker 1: to be on there as well. So you could put it.

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Speaker 1: You could put Joe Giles Harris on the practice squad

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to. I don't think that's ideal him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Or you put Tyrell Dotson on the practice squad too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can't protect everybody, No, you can protect four of them,

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Speaker 1: and I think you're each week. I think on the game,

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Speaker 1: I think on the roster, you go nine d lineman,

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Speaker 1: five linebackers, and you go ten dbs. That's twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Gives you an extra spot on the offense where you

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Speaker 1: could go an extra whatever whatever offensive lineman eight or nine, right,

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Speaker 1: so then you could then you've got that. Lets see, Yeah, nice,

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Speaker 1: it's an exercise. I hate doing this because the public

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Speaker 1: math is gonna make me look like an idiot because

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Speaker 1: I can't even add up to twenty five right now

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Speaker 1: when you start getting in. That'st with three position groups. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ray says defensive line because of the need to rotate

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Speaker 1: them and the pounding that they take. Second choice would

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Speaker 1: be wide receiver, but you can always stash a couple

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Speaker 1: of them on the practice squad. He is right about that.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have made a habit of putting a couple

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Speaker 1: of extra receivers Duke Williams on the practice squad. Duke

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Speaker 1: william lives on the practice squad, and Kumro did two

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Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, last year, Isaiah Hodgens on IR

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Speaker 1: but you know he's eligible for that. Those three right there,

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Speaker 1: the ones you're talking about because you're not gonna do

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Speaker 1: anything with I think the top on the roster. I

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Speaker 1: think he's done enough to be there already. You know what,

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Speaker 1: because of special teams last year. He covers kicks. He's

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Speaker 1: a big body, so yeah he can run. Okay, there's five.

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Speaker 1: There's no that's not even including Mackenzie. I'm founding right there,

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Speaker 1: there's your there's your game day. Now you're talking Hodgens

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad, um and Duke Williams. Maybe Lances

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Speaker 1: had a nice camp. Yeah that's there's a and Stevenson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing with speedy? Yeah you might have

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Speaker 1: three receivers on the practice squad, right, and with a

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Speaker 1: sick team player practice squad, you can afford to do that. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I think where you're not compromising the depth of another position, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're you're not compromising it, but you're also risking it

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Speaker 1: as well. I mean Stevenson, you know, he's a draft pick.

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Speaker 1: You could lose him, Lancelin, or you could lose him,

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Speaker 1: you know. Kumarro. Kumarro is like the Kato Kaylin of

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Speaker 1: the NFL, the most famous guest ever. Wow, right, Steve

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Speaker 1: coming off the top row, He's like if Kato came

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Speaker 1: Jake Kumero went from nobody under thirty knows what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Jake Kumero went from who is that guy?

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Speaker 1: To oh my gosh, I wish we had him. Guy

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Speaker 1: faster than anybody since Cato Klin Crow. I was not

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Speaker 1: expecting that at all. Wow, think about it. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: over my shoulder right now. Where did that come from?

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Speaker 1: That's where the guy is. Okumero went from who is

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Speaker 1: that guy? To you know, Wow, I'm glad we got him.

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Speaker 1: He's had a great camp. I had a great camp.

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Speaker 1: He's had a notable camp. It's like a gazelle running

2266
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Speaker 1: out there. Touchdown, Jesus. He's sixs three, he's big. He

2267
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Speaker 1: plays special teams, he catches it. The quarterbacks love the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a great team player. He contributes on game day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there you go. I mean, you know, Josh

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Speaker 1: was kind of laughing about Yeah, Josh was laughing about

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Speaker 1: it to day. He's one for one, one catch, one touchdown.

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Speaker 1: I love the ratio. But you know, that's what the

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Speaker 1: guy does. He's and he's a game. Josh calls him

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Speaker 1: a gamer. So yeah, so we put you throw him on.

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Speaker 1: How does you know, that's the beauty of it. He's twenty,

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Speaker 1: he's twenty eight nine, he's twenty nine, and he's like

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Speaker 1: what he like dropped out of the sky. He's hard

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Speaker 1: to this. Yeah, it's a big felt like one of them.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what it's called. One of those

2280
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,200
Speaker 1: flowers that blooms overnight. You didn't know it was there.

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Speaker 1: It's like, where did that come from? It's like a

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Speaker 1: fully formed you know, the guy's a fully formed veteran

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Speaker 1: receiver and he's we've never seen him before. So I

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Speaker 1: just want to reset the table here because as far

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Speaker 1: as analogies go, Steve has just covered the spectrum. The

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Speaker 1: span of two minutes. He went from comparing Jake Kumero

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Speaker 1: to kto'kalin and now he has compared him to a

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Speaker 1: fully formed flower in the span of twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: Ones that bloom overnight. You don't get this anywhere people.

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Speaker 1: You get it here. One Bill's Live. Okay, we have

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Speaker 1: to take a break, but when we come back, we

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Speaker 1: will close up shop. We'll see if Steve has another

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Speaker 1: analogy in his back pocket to wow us again. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back here on One Bill's Live. Presented by Klatta Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned? Brought to

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. I almost got it out smoothly. My

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Speaker 1: apologies to sky Works through good people. What we learned

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Speaker 1: today is the Jets may finally be on the right

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Speaker 1: track with a head coach that has a clear vision

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Speaker 1: and plan going forward for maybe the first time since

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Speaker 1: Herm Edwards. Yeah. I suggested this is Elij Doozable our

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Speaker 1: guests who covers the Jets as their analyst for us

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Speaker 1: and ye, and I suggested that maybe when you hire

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Speaker 1: the right guy thinks at the beginning goalil ahead of schedule,

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Speaker 1: like they did with Sean McDermott here going to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs in his first season. And he agreed with that.

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Speaker 1: He thought Robert Slow was really going to bring some

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Speaker 1: quick turnaround, some signs of a quick turnaround in New York.

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Speaker 1: He's got some guys that are really going to jump

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Speaker 1: in with him. He's got a you know, a solid plan,

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Speaker 1: and let's face it, I think the time to really

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Speaker 1: instill what you really want to do from a coaching

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Speaker 1: standpoint is when the owner is kind of all on

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Speaker 1: board with him, wants you to do well. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a it's a bold move by Slid to do

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that he's doing in New York.

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Speaker 1: Leaving Zach Wilson as the only option at quarterback is

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Speaker 1: a smart move to me, despite the fact that he

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Speaker 1: may get heard twist and ankle one and then you've got,

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Speaker 1: you know, these guys behind him that really have are

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Speaker 1: less qualified than he is as a rookie. I think

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Speaker 1: he's done a lot of the right things. He certainly

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Speaker 1: said all the right things. He's the right kind of guys,

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Speaker 1: as Leger told us during the interview, And like I

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Speaker 1: said at the end of that segment, I think there's

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Speaker 1: no question the Jets when they hired him, made this

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Speaker 1: the AFC East a lot more competitive division. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's shaping up where. I mean, the Bills are

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Speaker 1: still ahead of the pack right now, but they're they're

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Speaker 1: trying to gain ground by making the right decisions. I

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Speaker 1: think the Jets, un characteristically have made a few good decisions.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if they're all good, but some of them are.

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Speaker 1: I still think that Wilson could have benefited from having

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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback in the room right from the jump. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this in New York. I think it's different

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. I would say, Yeah, in New York,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to start that debate. Well, maybe you

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Speaker 1: win more games with the old guy that kind of

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Speaker 1: stuffed that out right away just by addressing it head on.

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Speaker 1: He is here to help Wilson, So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just think it would benefit him in the quarterback room.

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Speaker 1: You as a coach deal with the press. Is it

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Speaker 1: a headache? Maybe at times? But Wilson's the kid, he's playing.

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Speaker 1: This guy's here to help mentor him. That's it. Dune deal, Lucille.

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Speaker 1: And if the media can't handle that or they want

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Speaker 1: to stir stuff up, put him in their place again.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just me though, I grew up

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Speaker 1: with Red. Yeah, but the Jess bear watching. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be difficult for the Bills to do it. But they

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Speaker 1: swept the division last year. But now they're be a

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Speaker 1: tougher Rodoh, they got a target on him. Be a

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Speaker 1: tougher Rodah this time round. Steve and I back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: for more Bills talk. Make sure you join us we'll

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Speaker 1: see you at noon.