1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to move to stick DJ Buck with our good 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: friend Bruce Feldman joining us. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Bruce. How you doing man, I'm doing well. Good to 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: be hon with you guys. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Appreciate you taking old time. It's you know, I feel 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: like every weekend it's been one or two games, you know, 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: mostly just one game and maybe one and a half 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: games that I get excited about on the college football slate. 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: But holy cow, this is the weekend where it kind 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: of gets cranked up. 13 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Man. 14 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: Is this matchups all over the place, all over the country, 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: all over the time slots. It's the best weekend of 16 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: the season so far. 17 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: It is. I mean, obviously there was a ton of 18 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: hype for week one because of it was Arch's big 19 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: starting debut, you know, when it was his team at 20 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Texas going to play Ohio State. Huge game. But to me, 21 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: I love the matchup in Happy Valley. There's going to 22 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: be white out at Penn State. Oregon's going in there, 23 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Dante more and the offense has looked fantastic. They haven't 24 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: really played anybody yet though, and this is a real 25 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: good test you obviously have Georgia Alabama. That's a huge one. 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: There's just so many, it's like it's a deep run 27 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: of games. But for me, it's just I'm really fascinated 28 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: to see what happens in Happy Valley. And not to 29 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: say that what happens in Georgia Alabama doesn't have playoff ramifications. 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: It certainly probably will, but you know, again, just because 31 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: like the other two teams, we've at least seen them 32 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: play somebody good, you know, and we've seen them have 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: some adversity. Alabama didn't really deal with it great. Obviously 34 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: Georgia did. But in this case, you know, what are 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: we getting? You know, as Drew Aller taken a big step? 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: What is Jim Knowles defense looks like in Happy Valley? 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, how does Dante More in a rebuilt offensive 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: line handle all that? I can't wait to find that 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 1: stuff out. 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's fiddy Bruce, because you took me right 41 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: to where I wanted to go. When it comes to 42 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: Penn State, the biggest difference to me in Penn State 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: is Jim Knowles. 44 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: What does it look like? How is it going there? Like? 45 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: What do you expect to see from Jim knowles taking 46 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: over the defense. You know, he's as good as there 47 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: is as a defensive mind in college football. And if 48 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: you look last year when they played he was at 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Obviously, when they played Oregon the first time, 50 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: I think Oregon averaged like well over seven yards of play. 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: They obviously won that game. The second meeting, they really 52 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: got after the Ducks. The Ducks went from like like 53 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: rushing for like one hundred or fifty or sixty yards 54 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: to like minus twenty and they averaged under four yards 55 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: of play. And obviously the Ohio State you know, really 56 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: took it to him on both sides of the ball. 57 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: I mean, he's really good. He also has a lot 58 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: to work with. I mean, there are a bunch of 59 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: freaky dudes on the Penn State defense, you know, Zane Durant. 60 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's Aaron Donald, but of 61 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: all the guys who are going to get compared to 62 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald in college football right now, this would be 63 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: that guy who's like super explosive, kind of undersize with 64 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: plays in the right scheme. Denied. Dennis Sutton is a menace. 65 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: You know, they always seem to have like an elite 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: edge rusher that guy right now, and there's a bunch 67 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: of other dudes around him. Tony Rojas can run as 68 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: fast as any linebacker and gets after people. You know, 69 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: and I think you have some interesting matchups here because 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Kenyan Sadik is probably one of the more unique chess 71 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: pieces in college football. Obviously, we just had a great 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: tight end at Georgia who's now playing for the Raiders 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: and Brock Bauers. Sadiq is faster and more explosive. I 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: don't know if he's, like I want to say, as 75 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: smooth as Bowers was. You know, Bowers was just like 76 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: almost like a running back at times, but Sadiq dominates 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: as an inline blocker at times, and you see what 78 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: a matchup problem he is. And Will Stein, the offensive 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: coordinator at Oregon, is really good at doing that because 80 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, as impressive as Oregon's been, remember they're like 81 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: best receiver supposedly coming into this year was Evan Stewart 82 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: and he got a knee injury in the summer and 83 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: he can't go. 84 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: So. 85 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just very to watch how these 86 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: things are kind of lining up, and I'm fascinated to 87 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: see what how the chess match of Knowles against Stein 88 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Goes Goes Saturday Night. 89 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: Bruce, I had a chance a couple of years ago. 90 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: It was the last year, two years, it all runs together, 91 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: but I had a chance to the Texas State championship game. 92 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: Just happened to be in Dallas when that was going on, 93 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: so I went and watched it. And that freshman receiver 94 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: for Oregon, like he looked he looked crazy fast on 95 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: a high school field, obviously, but I don't. He looks 96 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: like he's faster when everybody they're playing. So far, I know, 97 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: I haven't seen a ton of talented opposition, but I 98 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: mean I'm excited to see that kid on a big stage. 99 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really dynamic. I mean they had at one 100 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: point and their old receivers coach who's now with the Cowboys, 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: Junior Adams, had I think three, like legit five star guys. 102 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: No one of them ended up, you know, flipping and 103 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: going to Florida at the last second. But this kid 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: is super explosive and I think he's embraced the physicality 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: piece of it pretty quickly in Eugene, so they're excited 106 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: about him. They have a deep running back room, like 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us expected Makai Hughes the 108 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: transfer from Tulane to emerge as kind of I don't 109 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: see the bellcow because that's not really how Oregon plays, 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: but just to be that feature guy, and it's been 111 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys. We're averaging like eleven yards 112 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: of carry. But again, they haven't played anybody close to 113 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: what they're going to see and certainly nothing like that environment. 114 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Dante has looked fantastic, you know, everybody loves him, and 115 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: I talked to coaches who face them. You know, we 116 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: have a big story on the athletic it's kind of 117 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: what we're hearing that it'll go up Friday, and I 118 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: think so. You hear some of the people who've played 119 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: them just kind of gush about what they see. But again, 120 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: I think I'm not saying it's it's fool's gold, but 121 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: I just think we need to see it against you know, 122 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: like a relevantly relevant like class of athlete and class 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's just you know, there, I feel like 124 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: they were just kind of toying with people so far. 125 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: This will be a much different kind of test and 126 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: if they if they if they ace it the way 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: they've raced everything else. You know, we probably got a Heisman, 128 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: a legit Heisman candidate in Eugene. 129 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: You know, I kind of want to finish the conversation 130 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 3: off with Penn State and Oregon on the two head coaches. 131 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: James Franklin kitches a lot of flak for their inability 132 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: to knock off the top five team. Yeah, it's challenging 133 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: to do, but in Penn State, the expectation is that 134 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: he should be able to do it, and people kind 135 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 3: of view him as more recruiter than strategists or tactician. 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: Dan Lanning appears to kind of be the total package 137 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: when you think about head coach, not only a mass 138 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: for recruiter, motivator, has the exces and os from the 139 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: defense of the ball. Just talk about a comparing contrast 140 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: both head coaches in this matchup. 141 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for a little while, James Franklin, you know, 142 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: did an amazing job at Bandy, right, he got him 143 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: in the top twenty five a couple of years. Then 144 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: he really I think he ramped it up after. You know, 145 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien had a really tough role in trying to 146 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: get Penn State back off the you know, off the 147 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: scrap heat when it was when he got it, and 148 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: I think he did a really good job. He obviously 149 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: beat Urban Meyer, you know that that one time, and 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: then they played in the Rose Bowl when he had 151 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Saquon and Trace McSorley, and I think, you know, he 152 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: had a big role in making Penn State kind of 153 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: cool for kids wanting to go there. And they've recruited 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: well and gotten all these guys, but it's just been 155 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: one reason or another why they haven't been able to 156 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: beat whoever is the top teams that they face, whether 157 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: it's Ohio State or occasionally it's been Michigan, before it 158 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: was you know, it might have been it might have 159 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: been somebody else. And I think that, you know, I 160 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: think he probably, I don't want to say it gets 161 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: a gets a bad rap for this, because I think 162 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: he's one of the best coaches in college football because 163 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: you look, he consistently wins double digit games, it consistently 164 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: develops players. But it's been kind of figuring out the offense, 165 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, outside of when Joe Morehead was there running 166 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: the show, I feel like it's been kind of underwhelming 167 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: and they plug different, you know, guys in and for 168 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it has not worked now Andy Cotle Nicky 169 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: was a he came from Kansas. I think he did 170 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: a pretty good job there, But they didn't have like 171 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: it was rare to see a team that had really 172 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: good skill talent but almost no receivers, you know, like 173 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: they had. They had Warren, they had the two elite 174 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: running backs, and the receivers were or like a non 175 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: factor in the game, you know. For them. Now they've 176 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: added three transfer portal guys who've all you know, been 177 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: pretty impressive so far, and I think you're getting an 178 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: element of contested catches. I think a lot of this 179 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: has got to be on you know, if Drew Aller's 180 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: the guy some people think he is as an NFL prospect, 181 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: we need to see him go out and win a 182 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: big game, and we need to see him live in 183 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: that moment. Trace McSorley actually could do something, you know, 184 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: like and he wasn't a prototype NFL size guy, but 185 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: it was a really good college quarterback. He obviously had Saquon. 186 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: They had some really good receivers back then. You guys, remember, 187 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: they're in the NFL now, and I just feel like 188 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: they need to see that part of it. In terms 189 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: of lanning, you see a guy who seems to be 190 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: in a sweet spot. You know, learned under Kirby, learned 191 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: under Sab and took a lot of different things from people. 192 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I think he's really confident in what he's doing. Whoever 193 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: he's put on his coaching staff seems like they have 194 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: been a good fit, whether it's finding a league Terry 195 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: to be the O line guy after he had Adrian 196 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Klem or plug it. You know, Tosh Lapoi has looked 197 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: good as a defensive coordinator here obviously went from Kenny 198 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: Dillingham as OC. He goes to be the head coach 199 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: at Arizona State, he grabs will Stein. Will Stein has 200 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: been as good a play caller, honestly in college football 201 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: as there's been the last couple of years. So daning 202 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Dan Lanning's got it right now. But I don't think, 203 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think for people to look at it 204 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: goes Jane Franklin can't win big games. I don't. I 205 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: don't buy that. I think he hasn't hasn't shown that 206 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: he can consistently do it. But we've seen at times. 207 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, it's been like one 208 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: thing or the other. I don't want to say, there's 209 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: no excuses for it if they don't win this game 210 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: on Saturday night. But I think everything points in the 211 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: direction they should win this game based on, you know, 212 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: the experience they have, the home field environment. I think 213 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: everything they that's lined up for them. If I was 214 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: a Penn State fan and they don't win, I'd really 215 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: be resigned to maybe this is not work. It gonna work. 216 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: But you can't put everything on one game. But we 217 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: have enough of a track record where you can start 218 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: to be a little skeptical. 219 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Aler is going to get all the credit, 220 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: all the blame, no matter what happens, because that seems 221 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: to be the that's the sport on social media. I 222 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: remember the Ohio State game last year. I mean, he 223 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: throws a fade ball, it should be a touchdown and 224 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: the receiver didn't fight for it, gets ripped out of 225 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: his hands and kind of change the whole dynamic of 226 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: that that entire game. And you mentioned the lack of 227 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: receivers last year. They didn't have any like that when 228 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: they that's why they're trying to generate offense and putting 229 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: Warren as a wildcat quarterback. Just whatever we got to do. 230 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: He's the best playmaker we have. Let's just try and 231 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: put the ball in his hands. So I have not 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: watched him yet this year. I'm anxious to see what 233 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: this this new receiving court looks like and see what 234 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: our does on a big stage, to kind of get 235 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: the taste of that last game we all saw him 236 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: in on the big stage last year. Get that out 237 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: of there, they get that taste out of their mouth. 238 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: We've got two other ones I want to hit you 239 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: on because LSU ol miss is gonna be a great 240 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: matchup too. But Bama Bama Georgia, Georgia doesn't lose at home, 241 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: and then you've got Bama who I don't know. As 242 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: it has it calmed down a little bit, I think 243 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: with the quarterback playing better, I think that's taken a 244 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: little bit of the heat off of the board. But 245 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: that's uh, that's still I feel like a fan base 246 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: in Tuscaloosa is sitting on the edge of their seat 247 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: waiting to see something they don't like. 248 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the last time Georgia lost at 249 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: home on a on a night game there in Athens, 250 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: I worked at ESPN, Budcky was playing DVA. You have 251 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: probably you were probably at app Stat or in Louisiana 252 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: playing quarterback. It's been a long time. The things that 253 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: I want to see in this game is Ken jam 254 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: Miller is going to get back. That's the Alabama's best 255 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: running back. Can he give them a run game to 256 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: really compliment what you have in Ty Simpson, who's played fantastic. Right, 257 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: Both the receivers have been really good. Jeremy Bernard has 258 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: really stepped up to be the other guy with the 259 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: dynamic Ryan Williams. The offensive line has been very inconsistent, right, 260 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: And I think from a from a big picture sence, 261 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Grubb is a very good offensive mind. We saw 262 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: he was with Klein de Bor when they had Penix 263 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: at Washington they played for the national title. Really dynamic 264 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: offense that had three elite receivers with a great quarterback. 265 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: You wonder like, how committed does he want to be 266 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: to running the football. That was kind of the knock 267 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: with him with Mike McDonald last year in Seattle when 268 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: he was the OC there. You know, will they do 269 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: that against Georgia. Now we saw Tennessee attack them like 270 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago in Knoxville. Chris Brasel went 271 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: off against them, you know, and I think Georgia Georgia 272 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: is vulnerable to some of the same stuff that that 273 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: Alabama can attack them with. By the way, Calen Debora 274 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: off a bye week. He's won a lot of games, 275 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: including his last five games, and four of them have 276 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: been against ranked opponents. So I feel like they will 277 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: have some stuff up their sleeve. It also helps. It's 278 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: really helps the tide. Then other get jam Miller back, 279 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: they get Tim Keenan, who's probably their best d line 280 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: and he's definitely their best leader on defense. He's missed 281 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: most of the season. He probably could have played last week, 282 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: but he's ready to go. I think that helps them 283 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: because you know, when you look at Georgia, you know, 284 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: I thought gunder Stockton aced the first big test. He 285 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: rallied them, and you know, the people I talked to 286 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: inside the Georgia program were very confident in him before 287 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: the game, and I think he backed up that confidence 288 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: of why they're confident in him. I still don't think 289 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: this is the Georgia caliber or team that we saw 290 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: that annihilated TCU and so far for the national title 291 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: game or was winning national titles. I think they're really good. 292 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I if I buy that they 293 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: are at that level where they are the class of 294 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: the SEC. I think they're one of the best teams 295 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: in the SEC, but I don't know if I think 296 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: they're look at them and go, oh yeah, this is 297 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: a team that to me is one that you check 298 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: the box off that they're you know that they're the 299 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: team to be. I think they have flaws, just like 300 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: you know the other maybe four best teams in the SEC, 301 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: and I would include Alabama in that group right now. 302 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny when you talk about it, because 303 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: to me, you talk about kiddin the board being so 304 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: good off by weeks in those things, it's still hard 305 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: to look at Alabama and not compare them to what 306 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: Alabama looked like under statement, and I'm just talking about 307 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: talent or whatever, but I'll talk about discipline and attention 308 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: to detail in those things, knowing which you know about 309 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: Kidden debor. 310 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: How different is this programmed than the program did Nick 311 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: saban ring. I think it's very different. I mean, I 312 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: don't know how to say it beyond like this calender 313 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: Boor is a genuinely nice guy, and I think there's 314 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: one part that I think was frustrating. If you watched 315 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: them play Florida State, was the fight was not there, 316 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean you got pushed around. The effort 317 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: wasn't there either, The effort was not there. That was 318 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: the part that was like Florida State looked hungrier, they 319 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: look like they were tougher, and I don't know, you know, 320 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know that goes 321 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: on Kaylen de boor as much as it goes on 322 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: any players. I mean, I know what you guys, you 323 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: know what you guys you know, do you know occupation 324 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: wise is you know, evaluate players and how much they 325 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: love football, how how how tough are they all those 326 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: intangible things. But at the end of the day that 327 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's on the that's on the coaches, which 328 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: is anything and the player and so you know, there's 329 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: some really good players in there. And I remember you 330 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: could see bits and pieces where it's like, why did 331 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: this guy give up on this play? I thought this 332 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: guy's better than this. You know, this doesn't seem like 333 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: this guy and you just kind of wonder, Okay, what 334 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: happened there? And I think only the people inside the 335 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: program really know the answer to those things, but it 336 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: is a long season. We learned that from Ohio State 337 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: last year if we didn't already know it. And I 338 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: think if you're if you're Alabama, if you're Kalin debor 339 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: if you're Kane Wamack the defensive coordinator, I think it's like, hey, 340 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: you guys got embarrassed by Diego, Pavia and Vandy last year. 341 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: He gave up forty points. Now, some of those players 342 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: probably were not the same players in different roles, you know, 343 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: like honestly, guys, Like there's a bunch of guys in 344 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: the secondary who came from like where you know where 345 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: DJ lives. Right, there's a bunch of like either Orange 346 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: County or San Diego kids who are really talented who 347 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, now, are you guys ready to be 348 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: those guys? Because obviously they lost, you know, a bunch 349 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: of corners and a great safety some to the NFL. 350 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: And obviously the Caleb Downs went to Ohio State. But 351 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: I felt like they lost a lot of key pieces 352 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: and it's you wonder who's going to step up and 353 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: take ownership inside the locker room of that because obviously 354 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: there's some accountability issues. This is a good test if 355 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: you thought Florida State was going to man handle you, 356 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: what do you think Georgia is gonna do? What do 357 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: you think Krbie Smart wants to do? So, like, I'm 358 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: interested to see how does how does calein de boor 359 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: make sure that doesn't happen Saturday night in Athens. 360 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: Bruce, just because you know we'll catch up as we 361 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: get closer to the draft and I'll get a chance 362 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: to jump in on these guys as well, Bucky. But 363 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: if I was just going to ask you these four 364 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: teams playing these two games, Bama, Georgia, LSU, Old Miss, 365 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 2: who is I'll just ask you for one and four. 366 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: We're not worry about two and three. Who is the 367 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: most talent? Not the best team, just the most talent. 368 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: Who's the most talented of those four teams? And who's 369 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 2: the least talented of those four teams? 370 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: I would say probably Old Miss is the least talented 371 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: of those teams. You know, almost lost a lot of 372 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: good players on the defense last year, lost a terrific 373 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: receiver who's now with the Chargers, and obviously lost to 374 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: a terrific quarterback who's now with the Giants, and the 375 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: whole day line. Yeah, I mean, like Walter and Olam, 376 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: you go down the list, they lost really good players. 377 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: They have like a couple of guys back in the 378 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: front seven who I think were good players. But I 379 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: feel like Old Miss is probably and it's not shouldn't 380 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: be shocking, like you know, typically that would be the 381 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: least of those groups. I don't you know. LSU is 382 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: the wild card of this group because they have a 383 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: ton of speed. They could put a track team out 384 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: with just their receiver room. I love some of the 385 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: additions they have in the portal mansor delayne is A 386 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: is a great college cornerback in how he great the 387 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: game too. It is came from Virginia Tech. Has has 388 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: been his fantastic addition. I think Blake Baker, the defense coordinator, 389 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: has done a really good job. I feel like they 390 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: are playing a lot of confidence on that side of 391 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: the ball. You got Wit Weeks, and the Weeks got 392 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: Week's brothers or nine of them. It feels like it 393 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: if I saw I. 394 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: Watched one get hurt and one get kicked out, and 395 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: there was another one just waiting in the way. 396 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: How many of these dudes are there? I know they're 397 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: a little bit like the old schwartz Maker movie where 398 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: you know where it's the terminator where one part comes 399 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: off and they just kind of regenerate. It looks a 400 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: little different because I watched the Netflix thing on them. 401 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: They don't like wit looks a certain way. The youngest 402 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: brother really doesn't look like them as much, you know, 403 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: But it's just they have all the same heart and 404 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a confidence there. There's also Harold Perkins, 405 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: who is who's like, I don't know if this is 406 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Harold Perkins three point zero because he was a fantastic playmaker, 407 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: is a true freshman, and then they kind of struggle 408 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: to figure out how to use him, and I don't 409 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 1: know if he was lost in there a little bit. 410 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but you watched him earlier 411 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: this year, and he is making a lot of plays 412 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: because he is so twitchy, and it's kind of a 413 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: unique also a unique chess piece for them. I think 414 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: the part that is puzzling about Lsu is, as I said, 415 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: a ton of speeder receiver. You got Garrett nus Meyer, 416 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: who I know he's been a little banged up, but 417 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: he is He's as good a quarterback as there is 418 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: in college football, I think, but you wonder how committed 419 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: are they to the run game. It's like, can they 420 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: run the football or will they run the football? Started 421 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: to become like two different questions. They had to replace 422 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: four starters on the old line, including Will Campbell. I 423 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: think all four of those linemen, by the way, it's 424 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: not just they lost them. Those guys are all like 425 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Those are like pretty good players. And 426 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: so I think there's a lot of uncertainty about LSU, 427 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: even the win they had, which I thought was a 428 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: really good look, good looking win Week one, because they 429 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: went to Clemson and beat a team with a lot 430 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: of dudes on it. But Clemson doesn't look very good 431 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: right though, you know, so to me, they're the wild card. 432 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: You know, my default answer to this, in a long 433 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: winded way would be Georgia's the most talented team, because 434 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: I think they have more guys that are ready in 435 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: the front seven than Alabama does. But I don't know 436 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: about that, you know, Like I mean, the answer to 437 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: the probably is Texas as better guys on the defense 438 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: than any of them do. But I know Texas isn't 439 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: in this conversation for this point. But I don't know like, 440 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: I feel like of this of those four teams, the 441 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: one I have the most confidence and in quarterback is 442 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: probably nuss Meyer. The one I have the most confidence 443 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: in the trenches probably is Georgia. And then you know, 444 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: I honestly I would take the two receivers Georgia Alabama 445 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: has over anybody Georgia has. I know like Branch is 446 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: a dangerous return guy and gadget guy, but I feel 447 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: like Ryan Williams is different. I see what Jeremy Bernard 448 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: is doing. I feel like Jeremy Bernard is like a 449 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: go to guy, and I think Ty Simpson cool story. 450 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: I think he's playing with a ton of confidence. And 451 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: you're seeing a guy who's much better athlete than people 452 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: gave him credit for. And he could be he could 453 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: have of this weekend in the sec of these four 454 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: of these, you know, four teams, I think he has 455 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: a chance to be the guy people come away talking about, going, WHOA, 456 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: He's way better than we thought. That's interesting, Yeah, it 457 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: is interesting, I'll sell you. 458 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: What's interesting to me is watching Brian Kelly down at LSU. 459 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: Have to watching him for years and Notre Dame and 460 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: it's just me and I'm a Brian Kelly fan, but 461 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: it just doesn't seem like a great mess in terms 462 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: of personality and players and program and those things like 463 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: thirty thousand view, Like what is that connection like between 464 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: BK the football program and the players, because it just 465 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it's a great fit. 466 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, last year I did a story with my colleague 467 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Ralf Russo about the fit. Because he's obviously a terrific coach. 468 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: You don't do what he did for as long as 469 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: he did a Notre Dame if you're not really good. 470 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: In addition to the other jobs he's hadn't done well at. 471 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't want to put it as 472 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: bluntly as this, but LS you you're you're coaching in 473 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: the Deep South. You're coaching different kinds of kids than 474 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: you're getting at Notre Dame. And I think how he's 475 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: connected to him or not. You know, one of the 476 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: one of the people we talked to for that story 477 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: was was his former starting center at LSU had been there. 478 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: You know, he was a holdover from the old staff 479 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: and you know he started for a couple of years 480 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: for Brian Kelly and he was like, I just didn't 481 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: have any personal relationship with him, Like this guy was 482 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: on the record just basically talking about that. Like he'd 483 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: say hi to me and that's it. But it wasn't 484 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: like you felt like you had any connection to him. 485 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: And I think one of the mistakes Brian Kelly made 486 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: early on was the staff he put together. Like Cory 487 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Raymond has produced as many DB's probably for the NFL 488 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: in the last decade as anybody in college football. He 489 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: clearly knows what he's doing. They got got rid of him, 490 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: they ended up bringing him back, you know, because they 491 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: were crazy for LSU to be bad in the secondary. 492 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: They were really bad in the secondary, so they brought 493 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: him back. Blake Baker, Louisiana guy. He was the linebacker 494 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: coach on the old ozer On staff. He's now the 495 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. That was a really good move. I think 496 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: a lot of those things is how do you supplement 497 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: it to make it fit? Sometimes I feel like LSU. 498 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to say they're winning in spite of 499 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, but it's just it is a weird fit, 500 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, everything there. I think it helps that he 501 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: has a really experienced quarterback who wants to be there. 502 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: We know that because nuss Meyer was one of the 503 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: rare guys who could have left when he waited behind 504 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels and waited and waited, and you know, it's 505 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: like he's a leader there. I think they probably have 506 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: good leaders in the locker room. Sure seems like what 507 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: Weeks is one of them, you know, And I think, 508 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: but the fit is weird, no doubt. And I know 509 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: this like the only thing three guys he followed as 510 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: head coaches there, Nick saban Less, Miles and Ed Ozeron. 511 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: The only thing they have in common is they all 512 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: won national titles in their first four years at LSU. 513 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: It's a year four. This is they spent like three 514 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: times as much money on their roster as they did 515 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: the year before. So clearly they're invested. You know, go 516 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 1: at least be a playoff team. I don't think they 517 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: have to win the national title to keep his job, 518 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: but I think given the experience, given who your quarterback 519 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: is and his experience, I think you got to prove 520 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: it and be a playoff team. I think there's really 521 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: no excuses for not and there's no excuses for LSU 522 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: not to be able to run the ball better than 523 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: it's doing right now. 524 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: Oh, that's great stuff, Bruce. Last one then I'm gonna 525 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: let you run here. You've been gracious with your time 526 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: as always. But you mentioned you know that job likely 527 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: isn't going to come open. The one that is looking 528 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: like it could come open is Florida. We'll see if 529 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: unless Napier can really recover against just a brutal schedule 530 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: that they have, But not just that job, the other 531 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: jobs that potentially could become available. After last year was 532 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: such a light movement year, it looks like we could 533 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: see more movement this year. So just early on off, 534 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: you know, for candidates that maybe are a little off 535 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: the radar, I'd love to know. Can you give me 536 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 2: a couple of names, non Power four coaches that you 537 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: that you think have an opportunity to ascend and be good, 538 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, power for guys. 539 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's already three three Power four jobs that are open. Obviously, 540 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: Mike Gundy got got blown out of Oklahoma State this week, 541 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: and you had Deshaun Foster at u c l A. 542 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: You had Virgia Tech and Brent pry Uh you know 543 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: they fire. Stanford's open too, Yeah, that's right, Stanford is 544 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: open and go you know, go work for Andrew Luck 545 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: and try to get players in academically right, so and 546 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: play in a league that you know, it's just the 547 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: worst geographical, geographical lot. But that's yeah, that's that's four jobs. 548 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: There will be more. I think what's different this year 549 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: for billion napier than was last year is a d 550 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: Scott Strickland. You know, like last year he was on 551 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: a lot of thin ice. Well, what happened between this 552 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: year last year, in addition to Billy and Aper going 553 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: on a run at the end of the year, was 554 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: the basketball coach he hired, Todd Golden, won a national title. 555 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, now Scott Strickland's kind of 556 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: separated a little bit from his from you know, if 557 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: if this football coach gets fired, I may lose my 558 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: job too. That's not going to happen, at least the 559 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: latter is not. So the guys I think to keep 560 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: an eye on, especially maybe watch Virginia Tech. That job is. 561 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: There's I think there's four or five very good group 562 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: of five head coaches out there. One of them is 563 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: John Sumrall. He is the coach a lot in the s. 564 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: He really good coach. I think John Sumrall would win anywhere. 565 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: Anybody who's talked to him, and I know a lot 566 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: of you know, your brethren who do scouting probably talked 567 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: to John Sumrall a lot. He's just got it. He's 568 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: super sharp. He's at Tulane, done a did a really 569 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: good job first to Troy and then there. You know 570 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: whether if Elaine ever left Ole Miss, which if the 571 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: Florida job comes open, who knows how that plays out, right, 572 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: But you know, I could see some role at Old Miss. 573 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: I could see him at at Auburn. He's you know, 574 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: from Alabama. He's a guy that I think will be 575 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: in much demand. Ryan Silverfield just beat just beat Arkansas. 576 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: He's the head coach at Memphis. Has done a very 577 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: good job there, consistently has won. The one thing that's 578 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of like a quirky thing, you know, with him 579 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: in this dynamic is Virginia Tack's open. Virginia Tech hired 580 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: Justin fuent Day to replace Frank Beemer. Did a pretty 581 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: good job at the beginning, then really tailed off. They 582 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: hired him from Memphis. I don't know if they would 583 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: they we can't hire another Memphis coach. I don't think 584 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: he and Ryan Silverfield are very similar in any way, 585 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: but they both have coached at Memphis and maybe that'll 586 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: be a question mark. Then Bob Chesney who's at James Madison, 587 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, who's at holy Cross, won a lot of games, 588 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: been a long time head coach, even though he's in 589 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: his mid forties. He's one to watch. Alex Golish, who 590 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: is a hypol protege who's at USF. He's got to 591 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: win record. It's not like he has an amazing record 592 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: in three years, but he did beat Florida this year. 593 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: He blew out Boyse State and they were like four 594 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: and twenty nine at USF before he showed up. The 595 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: other thing that's that's worth noting with him is of 596 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: all the guys I mentioned, he's the only one who 597 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: worked at Oklahoma State before he was a GA for 598 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: gun Beach two thousand and eight, so he does have 599 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: a connection. Who runs the warp speed offense. He's a 600 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: good coach. And then the other guy I would put 601 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: in there is Charles Huff who's now at Southern Mish 602 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: one ten games last year at Marshall. I mean I 603 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: could see Virginia Tech being tempted by him because he 604 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: went to college in that state. He's from Maryland. You know, 605 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: he coached for James Franklin at Penn State. He coached 606 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: for Saban at Alabama. You know, he knows what he's doing. 607 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: So those guys are the ones I think that are 608 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: the most I would say upwardly mobile, you know, in 609 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: terms of like, I think maybe all of them, if not, 610 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 1: you know, half of them will probably end up at 611 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: bigger jobs come this winter. And then you have a 612 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: cluster of really good offensive coordinators who I think will 613 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: get long looks, certainly at the at the Oklahoma State job. 614 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what UCLA is going to do because 615 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: UCLA is a unique kind of mess, and they, you 616 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: know they, I think that they have to be careful 617 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: hiring somebody who's never been a head coach after what 618 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: just happened with Deshaun Roster. He just seemed like he 619 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: was really spinning his wheels there. And you don't have 620 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: a ton of support inside the athletic program there. 621 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: Well, free advice, if will Stein's listening, you have a 622 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: better job as the offensive coordinator at Oregon than being 623 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: the head. 624 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: Coach at UCLA. 625 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: So I would I would not jump with that one. 626 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: I would hold off and see what else outh until 627 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: they get stuff figured out there in Westwood. Hey, Bruce, 628 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: you're the best buddy. We kept you a little long. 629 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time. Look forward to doing this again soon. 630 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Man. Always a pleasure. Guys, good seeing you all right, Buck. 631 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: Great to have our buddy Bruce Feldman. If you don't 632 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: know Bruce, then you probably aren't watching a lot of 633 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: college football. But you'll see him on Fox each and 634 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: every set. Also does incredible work at the Athletic. Has 635 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: a great article up on Ryan Williams, by the way, 636 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: I just read that this morning, the receiver we were 637 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: talking about from Alabama and kind of his upbringing and 638 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: some of the adversity that he's faced. But Bruce has 639 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: dialed in as anybody and always always love it when 640 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: we get a chance to have him on. 641 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 642 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: Look, he knows a lot about everything in the college 643 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: football landscape, and it was great to have his insights 644 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: not only on the things that are happening on the field, 645 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: but man, the coaching stuff. At such a fascinating time 646 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: when you think about college football, the jobs that are available, 647 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: but dealing with the news landscape, you know what I'm 648 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: saying the portal, the money, the boosters, revenue share, whatever. 649 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: Life I say now is more challenging than ever. To 650 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: be ahead of a program is more a whole lot 651 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: more involved. 652 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: Yep. 653 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: You better have hopefully a general manager that you can 654 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: partner with, that can that you can trust. It can 655 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: take a lot of that stuff off of your plate. 656 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: But anyways, we'll have Bruce on again, trying to get 657 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: him on about once a month. Look forward to those conversations. 658 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys with us. 659 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: Tomorrow we will preview some of the big NFL weekend 660 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: games we have in front of us. We'll check that 661 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: out tomorrow right here on, Move the sticks.