WEBVTT - A Look Inside The 2026 Midterms | A Conversation with Garry Kasparov

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good evening, everybody, and welcome to this Wednesday edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Warning. The great pleasure and a privilege tonight

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to introduce all of you to Gary Kasparov,

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<v Speaker 1>the world chess Champion, the strategic grand Master, one of

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<v Speaker 1>humanity's great champions of freedom, freethinking, and apostle of human rights.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's said that in an average lifetime that

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<v Speaker 1>each of us, on average will meet ten thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what an average person in an average lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>will meet, ten thousand people. And so tonight a couple

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<v Speaker 1>thousand of us will be together, and a great privilege

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce one of the most exceptional people on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet and for us to be able to have a

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<v Speaker 1>discussion about this moment, about the crisis, about the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of the crisis, and about the strategy of how to

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<v Speaker 1>navigate through it. And so welcome Gary casper Off. And

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<v Speaker 1>let me start out by just asking you to explain

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<v Speaker 1>the mission of the next Move and to tell everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's listening where they can find you and what the

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<v Speaker 1>mission of that publication is, which I think is essential reading.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve, thank you very much for having me here and

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<v Speaker 2>for mentioning the Next Move is a subsec album that

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<v Speaker 2>I started with by organization the Renewed Democracy Initiative. The

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<v Speaker 2>bottom line is very simple. Idea of the Next Move

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<v Speaker 2>is to lay down the strategy, actually to discuss the strategy,

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<v Speaker 2>and the motto of our publication is stop whining, start winning.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to understand the nature of the crisis, why

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<v Speaker 2>we're in the midst of such a crisis, not just

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<v Speaker 2>domestic but international, and how.

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<v Speaker 3>We can get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just, you know it simply criticizing Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and Trump chronics, but understanding the nature of the threat,

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<v Speaker 2>which I believe is an existential threat to the American.

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<v Speaker 3>Republic and democracy worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>But also finding resources, I mean finding concepts and strategy,

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<v Speaker 2>how to you know, build something more adequate, how to

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<v Speaker 2>adjust American democracy, American Republic to the realities of the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into it straight away and talk about strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with what is strategy.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's very easy to make strategy and tactics.

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<v Speaker 2>So in one of my books How Life iMedia Chairs,

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to come up with something, you know, quite

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<v Speaker 2>unconventional as a tactics is knowing what to do when

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<v Speaker 2>there's something to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Strategy is knowing what to do when there's nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's it's kind of an exaggeration, but basically,

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<v Speaker 2>strategy is according to to to the thinkers, uh strategic thinkers,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's about the impact of your actions today, so

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<v Speaker 2>how the future will respond to your actions today. And

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<v Speaker 2>strategy is something that you know, you just have to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, lay down and then to use tactical tools

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<v Speaker 2>to support it. So again it's this from the times

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<v Speaker 2>of Zuo Zoo, so this is this is ancient China.

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<v Speaker 2>So the the the distinction between strategy and tactics was

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<v Speaker 2>a fundamental element of a successful decision maker because it's

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<v Speaker 2>so easy to call whatever you do strategy without actually

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<v Speaker 2>laying down a proper strategy that could improve, dramatically improve

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<v Speaker 2>your chance for success. And I think now we're at

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<v Speaker 2>the point where just instead of these tactical scourishes and saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong. We

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<v Speaker 2>have too many things that we can say, we concentrate

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<v Speaker 2>on something which is more strategic, because it's again it's

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<v Speaker 2>about winning, and winning doesn't mean that we can get

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<v Speaker 2>everything we want. Winning is let me use the chess analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically to solving the most important problem. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you're king in game of chess, it's under the threat

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<v Speaker 2>of being mated. You don't think about a long term impacts,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the endgame. So it's right now you

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<v Speaker 2>have to make sure that you defend your position and

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<v Speaker 2>build the foundation of future attack.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me lay out a couple of things. And

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<v Speaker 1>if there's any premise garbage and garbage out, any garbage

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<v Speaker 1>that I put into my premise, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>call call me out on it. But this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is how I see the situation, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>starts with being able to observe and orient to the

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<v Speaker 1>precise moment, this moment in time, in space, what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>and what is the meaning of it and what is

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<v Speaker 1>to be done about it? And so in any situation,

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<v Speaker 1>the aggressor, by nature of being the aggressor has first

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<v Speaker 1>move or advantage against the side of the proposition that

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<v Speaker 1>does not want to be in a fight, but has

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<v Speaker 1>had a fight brought to them that requires standing up

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<v Speaker 1>lest something very valuable valuabill be law. So in this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you assess the strategic situation. Do you agree

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump has the first mover advantage, has the aggressor

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<v Speaker 1>advantage that the opposition, such as it is, if it

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<v Speaker 1>exists at all, if it exists in a nascient state

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<v Speaker 1>and unformed state, there's certainly a lot of organic protests

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<v Speaker 1>going on out across the country. But on on Harness,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you assess this moment in the status of

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's aggression, which I imagine you consider to be increasing

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<v Speaker 1>and building on a constant basis on a daily basis

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<v Speaker 1>as we get deeper and deeper into this, that the

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<v Speaker 1>situation on a constant basis isn't static, it's deteriorating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I made differ with you here because I think

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of Trump being an aggressor and making the

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<v Speaker 2>first move again using just analogy, could apply to his

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<v Speaker 2>first term. But he is back. So I think we

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<v Speaker 2>should understand why the person with so many flaws and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to be diplomatic, with so many flaws that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was aware of, succeeded in rallying more than half

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<v Speaker 2>of Americans behind him second time. And actually his second

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<v Speaker 2>performance in elections wasn't even better than the first one,

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<v Speaker 2>so that tells us that the conditions you know, were

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<v Speaker 2>nearly perfect to him. And how come it means the

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<v Speaker 2>opposition actually that at that time not opposition, but those

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<v Speaker 2>who power created these conditions for him were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people. And with no doubt that Trump's core support

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<v Speaker 2>a maga support. I don't know you you are much

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<v Speaker 2>better experts on this field, but I would be very

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<v Speaker 2>surprised if with more than thirty percent, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people voted for Trump, because the rest was worse. So

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<v Speaker 2>we should take into the account that right now he's

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<v Speaker 2>there because many policies that he advocated, not intending to

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<v Speaker 2>carry through, but advocating for and being associated with, they

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<v Speaker 2>have been neglected by Democrats, by by Biden administration, by

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<v Speaker 2>by Harris's campaign, and by Democratic Party at large. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's very important for us to actually to analyze the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons of Trump's comeback and also to understand how we

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<v Speaker 2>can fight back by creating a coalition, a big tent.

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<v Speaker 2>So to recognize that we can't attack, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>on the whole front, so we have to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>the directions. They ideal is just you know, you find

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<v Speaker 2>the weakest spot in Trump's you know, called political armor,

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<v Speaker 2>his shield and we attack there. And I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is not about Trump's policies, though we may disagree with many.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the bite more likely about the tools

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<v Speaker 2>he has been using. That's where we can build a college,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's of defending constitution. The tools that Trump has

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<v Speaker 2>been using, the political machinations, they most of them are

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<v Speaker 2>partly unconstitutioned. So it's not you know, wasting our energy

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<v Speaker 2>or investing our energy, just apology debating what Dodge did

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<v Speaker 2>here and there, cut these funds or abolished another agency. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree with many things they have been doing, but

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<v Speaker 2>the key is that Dodge is unconstitutional. Let's not here

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<v Speaker 2>where we are in the agreement. It's let's not them

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<v Speaker 2>to dictate the narrative, because the moment you start debating

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<v Speaker 2>the policies, we are in a very slippery ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Because immigration, yes, a lot of people agree.

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<v Speaker 2>With cutting the buttyt yes, blow the bureaucracy. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>not debate things where we cannot build a coalition that

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<v Speaker 2>will force many hesitant Republicans to shift their sides or

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<v Speaker 2>to depart drump Let's consider on something where many people agree.

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<v Speaker 2>The actions of this administration in many instances simply unconstitutional

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<v Speaker 2>and defending constitution. I think we create a very powerful

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<v Speaker 2>thrust that we'll penetrate Trump's defense shield.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I want to I want to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>break apart the analysis. I want to play devil's advocate.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I listen to you, I agree with you

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<v Speaker 1>substantially and largely. But but if we're sitting around in

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<v Speaker 1>a room, there are going to be two arguments that

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<v Speaker 1>are put forward on the table, and I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to take them spot on right and and the first

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<v Speaker 1>one is that looking backwards and deeply understanding the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why Donald Trump won.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that we are where we are, and that for

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<v Speaker 1>me write this notion that each day is a new

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<v Speaker 1>episode of a reality show that's completely disconnected, severed from

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<v Speaker 1>the day before, is both delusional and nonsensical and part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason we have arrived at this at this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you say to the necessity of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for the loss? And I can explain it

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty seconds. And I have no hypocrisy on this

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<v Speaker 1>issue because I called for Biden to be a one

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<v Speaker 1>term president. I look clearly at what I saw and

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<v Speaker 1>say he's not capable of doing this. That there's a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>I said in twenty twenty two a rematch between the

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<v Speaker 1>two would be a national catastrophe. And what happened right

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<v Speaker 1>at the core level is Joe Biden used the threat

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<v Speaker 1>of Donald Trump to justify his candidacy at age seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm the only candidate who can beat him because

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<v Speaker 1>I beat him once before. In any talk of me

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<v Speaker 1>not running again is dangerous and it helps Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>when in fact, Donald Trump beat the only candidate who

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats nominated who could conceivably have lost to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Democratic Party lost on fundamental questions of honesty

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<v Speaker 1>to the most prolific liar in American history, honesty about

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<v Speaker 1>the economy, honesty about the border, honesty about Biden's fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody got in line with the lie rather than

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<v Speaker 1>speak truth to power against the interest of American people.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's essential to confront that because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to sever that that baggage, right, that dishonesty, cast

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<v Speaker 1>it into the deep dark ocean. Right, have a funeral

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<v Speaker 1>for it and move forward into the sunlight of a

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<v Speaker 1>new day. But you have to have the funeral first,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to acknowledge how it is you lost

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<v Speaker 1>a campaign to the greatest liar in American history, and

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<v Speaker 1>questions of honesty.

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<v Speaker 4>So just a strategic matter.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say to the people who say we

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<v Speaker 1>are wrong in looking back or right that say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>crazy for saying that this has to be addressed as

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<v Speaker 1>a fundamental issue moving forward.

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<v Speaker 4>That requires, in the end, what's a character.

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<v Speaker 1>Test for people who want to lead, to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>America people the truth even if it indicts the self

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<v Speaker 1>interest of their colleagues and friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Here when in total agreement, because okay, chess player is speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't lay down the strategy. You can't work it

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<v Speaker 2>out unless you understand why you lost, recognizing the your shortcomings,

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong moves you made in our cases, not our moves,

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<v Speaker 2>but the moves made by those who were leading on

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<v Speaker 2>our side. So it's absolutely fundamental, it's paramount to move

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<v Speaker 2>into the future. And again, it was Trump's second victory.

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<v Speaker 2>He was coming back, and you're absolutely right, Trump was

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<v Speaker 2>bidable And contrary to what Biden was trying to tell us,

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<v Speaker 2>or actually the cohorts surrounding him trying to tell us,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the opposite. Biden won because he was not Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, as a one term president, his only president,

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<v Speaker 2>the only real goal of his presidency was to save

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<v Speaker 2>us from Donald Trump, so to offer us normalization. So instead,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think he pushed too far to the left.

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<v Speaker 2>But the worst thing he did, actually he didn't, is

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<v Speaker 2>not to step down and let Democratic Party to have

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<v Speaker 2>normal primaries. Because I think that's why Trump won the

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<v Speaker 2>nomination because the best argument Nikki Haley could use against him,

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<v Speaker 2>she tried that Trump was not unelectable and he was

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<v Speaker 2>losing against any Democratic candidate but Biden and or just

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<v Speaker 2>in this case was Kamala Harris, same same story. So

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<v Speaker 2>he would have lost and he would be the very

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<v Speaker 2>weak position against against any Democrat who would go through

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<v Speaker 2>the normal primary process. But because of Biden's was standing there.

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<v Speaker 2>So actually was sitting there just you know, taking this spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump could you know, could resist this Ni Hayley's argument,

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<v Speaker 2>and it didn't work out because for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so but Biden was batable. And then of

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<v Speaker 2>course you know when Biden Biden, every knew Biden could run.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was another big mistake. I think Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>had no other choice but to go for open convention

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<v Speaker 2>because to fight Trump, they had to gain momentum, they

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<v Speaker 2>had to rally energy. It's whoever wins open convention. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's a chaotic, it's you can't predict it, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's how you show connections with American people. Trump was

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<v Speaker 2>very successful by presenting his connections with American people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as real, while the Democrats tried to do everything behind

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<v Speaker 2>closed doors. Of course we knew Trump was lying, but

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately the alternatives to Trump's lies was something very so unpacked,

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<v Speaker 2>so unconvincing that a lot of people scratch their heads

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<v Speaker 2>holding their nose. Let's say, okay, let's see Trump, what

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<v Speaker 2>could happen with Trump? Now, they are probably you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry for their choice. But unfortunately, back then in in November,

0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of them, you know, so the Democrats in

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the car shape or form were not not

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<v Speaker 2>a good alternative Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's talk about the other issue, right that people

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<v Speaker 1>would say around this table right about not really needing

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<v Speaker 1>to look back and to really be accountable, right for

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in twenty twenty four before, right about it

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward and talk about the economy, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the question of the economy, what what I believe is happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm convinced I'll be right, and you can dissuade

0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>me if you think I'm going to be wrong. But

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<v Speaker 1>what what Donald Trump has set in motion can can

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<v Speaker 1>no more be stopped than the slide down a California

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<v Speaker 1>mountain or an avalanche down a Himalayan peak. That the

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<v Speaker 1>consequences of everything have a gravity in a momentum, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will have a crushing effect on the middle class

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<v Speaker 1>American consumer. And so there will be this duality of

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<v Speaker 1>the Katari four hundred million dollar jet. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that somebody will will be donating a presidential yacht

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<v Speaker 1>of some stupendous dimensions. But the but the gift doors

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<v Speaker 1>or are open, the economy will be crushed. More and

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<v Speaker 1>more people who are crushed will find themselves with an

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<v Speaker 1>inability to even open a bank account. In America, the

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<v Speaker 1>real estate markets are at a very very stagnant level,

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<v Speaker 1>and so so across the broad dimensions of the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>right where you see prices go up, where you see

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<v Speaker 1>wages go down, and we're going to see a fundamentally

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<v Speaker 1>broken promise that was the core of the Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 1>which is that, hey, trust me, I'm competent, I'm successful,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing, and you're gonna have more, not less.

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<v Speaker 1>And by lived experience, that's gonna become true, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be felt beginning in an acute way, seven weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>eight weeks, ten weeks out right. So there's any be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of long haul truck drivers with nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>haul come to fall.

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<v Speaker 4>There's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of farmers with crops and nowhere to sell them.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's gonna be broken supply chains up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the broad breadth of the economy, and a tourism collapse

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<v Speaker 1>that's epic, worth tens and tens of billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to the American economy. And so some people say, well,

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that's coming, and it is, and that all we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do is just sit back and do nothing. And

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<v Speaker 1>people will say us, not them, because they'll be responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what the strategy should be. And you have

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of people that are on cable news stations

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<v Speaker 1>right that have been affiliated with winning presidential campaigns from

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<v Speaker 1>high to low levels, that are espousing this wisdom. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you say to that.

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<v Speaker 2>In theory, you're right but I think we're at a

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<v Speaker 2>point where people will not be simply satisfied, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>say oh that's bad. They're responsible for what's happening, and

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<v Speaker 2>very likely the scenario could be quite you know negative.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that diars you described, but definitely economy

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<v Speaker 2>will not be transfriends ad in twenty twenty six. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it enough for Democrats to win by default? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think so. I don't think so, because we still at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment where the approval rating of Democrats is probably

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<v Speaker 2>Lord and theratory Republicans. It's very low. There are too

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<v Speaker 2>many mistakes being made. You know, there's no trust, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no confidence. You have to come up with a new narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to abandon far left policies that alienated millions

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<v Speaker 2>and millions of Americans, and just you know, look at

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<v Speaker 2>the transpropaganda.

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<v Speaker 3>They always look at these policies.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to discuss something that gives Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just it's a better rating, like immigration or adi or

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<v Speaker 2>transgender issues. So it's time to stop, you know, concentrating

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<v Speaker 2>on on cultural wars or on some other issues that

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<v Speaker 2>we may you know believe, you know, that's that they

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<v Speaker 2>had to be somewhere as you know, on the front line.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not what we need.

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<v Speaker 2>Economy, absolutely, but I still believe the constitutional factors are

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<v Speaker 2>very very important. Next year twenty fifth anniversary of of

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<v Speaker 2>the the original independence, and it's very important for us

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 2>to point out that many fundamental things, many pillars of

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 2>American democracy, many pillars of this great republic, could be

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<v Speaker 2>in dangered. And for those who say, oh, it's will

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<v Speaker 2>still win it. Now, it's not just economy. It's not

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 2>just you know, the news about the economy or or

0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:03.479
<v Speaker 2>or foreign affairs or whatever. It's about the spin. And

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<v Speaker 2>don't forget, you know, the social media is very much

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, just now on the Trump thumb and you

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<v Speaker 2>have okay, Twitter x and and control by evil masks

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and and the I mean Fox is still the most

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 2>powerful news generator in the country. And a side of these,

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, of these obvious factors and their and their

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 2>ability to to to generate pro Trump energy, uh in

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:35.400
<v Speaker 2>social media. I mean, let's ask one question before all

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 2>these pundits that you mentioned say, oh, it's automatic. One

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 2>question I keep asking, if you know this is we

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<v Speaker 2>are really facing, you know, this is the kind of

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 2>existential moment, so faithful moment in the history of the Republic,

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and Trump knows it's about his survival. Palm Bondi, the

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 2>DJ Cash Patel, the head of LBI, will there follow

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's orders or defend the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid we all know the answer. We're just afraid

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<v Speaker 3>to ask this question.

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<v Speaker 2>And that may change all only equations. So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's twenty twenty sixth. Election is not automatic. Yes,

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 2>fundamentals be on the side of those who opposing Trump,

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 2>but we need to to have our eyes wide open

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 2>to understand the dangers. And also we need a strong

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 2>narrative that will not help Trump to use the witnesses

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>in the coalition and to portray this coalition as the

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<v Speaker 2>promoters of the far left Marxist you know theories, which

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 2>they do or they will do any time. But they

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 2>can call your Mimi Marxists, but that will not work

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 2>as effectively as if they call people who are promoting

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 2>this value. Yes, and of course exposing Trump's corruption.

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Is it's again, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's mandatory. We have to do it every day,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course he will be doing you know things

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 2>that will will will expose him. But again it's just

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 2>not enough because Trump is bad, Trump is a threat

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.080
<v Speaker 2>of democracy, Trump is a villain, Trump is morn Is

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<v Speaker 2>is not enough to bring back to our ransom files

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<v Speaker 2>those who departed the opposition last November.

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<v Speaker 1>So I agree that the constitutional issue is the core

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<v Speaker 1>and fundamental issue, though all of these other things are

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<v Speaker 1>happening at the same time, and at the core of everything, right,

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about is fundamentally a question of right

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<v Speaker 1>and wrong, and that is the divide between freedom and

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>its opposite, which I do think is a question that

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.719
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be dealing with at the ballot in

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. So we were talking earlier today and

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<v Speaker 1>you said to me in a way that caught my

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<v Speaker 1>attention that twenty twenty six, is it that this in

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<v Speaker 1>a sense election for there to be a national repudiation,

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a check on Trump. We have talked

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>about some of the problems, the lack of coherency and

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>a message, the lack of trust and credibility amongst the

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>leadership of the Democratic Party. So there is no presidential nominee, uh,

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>there is no sole point of leadership to gather around.

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So across a fragmented opposition, across a republic with an officious,

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>aggressive regime that is asserting its antipathy towards the Constitution

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<v Speaker 1>in big ways and small, or how should we think

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<v Speaker 1>about the project of defense? And before we get into that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about something very specific that happened

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>today that you may or may not have seen, and

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that's Christine Noam appearing before the House Committee with Eric

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Swalwell and Eric Swalwell Congressman. Swalwell has a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>Raoul Obrego and the airbrush MS thirteen that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the Oval office, and he simply asked,

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Christine Noam, do you see the picture? Do you acknowledge

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>this image as obviously airbrushed? And I think that this

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>is an important question to ask. She's outrageously impertinent, disrespectful,

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>refuses to answer the question, refuses like a child even

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<v Speaker 1>to cast her gaze on the picture, but finally concedes

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<v Speaker 1>after a farcical five minutes that yeah, the image is concocted.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I look at that, my question is, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the next congressman who goes after Swallowell, who's a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>I never really see any of them, say well, let

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<v Speaker 1>me pick up where he left off, right, is the

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>picture on the knuckles airbrushed or not? And to dig

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<v Speaker 1>in and to hold the line on something that's I

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<v Speaker 1>think an existential question of reality, because something's got to

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>give when the when the truth of the line meet

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<v Speaker 1>in the meet in the ether.

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<v Speaker 4>And so when you think about that exchange, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You think about the farcical nature of it, how do

0:28:59.920 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you think about that as a political engagement where the

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<v Speaker 1>truth and the lie need in the context of that

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>broader question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually I saw it, and I think it's very

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>important that you mentioned it because that's a clear demonstration

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>how strategy and tactics can work together. Because what he

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 2>did today it pushed Secretary nom it's to acknowledge this

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 2>fake image used by President Trump. That's a good tactics,

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.479
<v Speaker 2>but it has an element of strategy using the levels

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>of power that are still available to us, and that's

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the United States Congress, those houses in the Senate. Yes,

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Republicans are in charge there, but we cannot abandon them.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's why the goal is to take at least

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 2>one of them, most likely the House, back into the

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 2>hands of those who will use these mechanisms before they

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>become redundant, a very very precarious moment in American history

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>where the true oligar in in I said, true, it's

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>in the real meaning of this world, when there's no

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>distinction anymore between power and money. Rockefeller was not an

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>oligard in it cures a term of this world, or

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>or JP Morgan or Carnegie, or even Vessels or.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Zuckerberg, elol Musk is Donald Trump is.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 2>So that's those who controlled both the money and directly directly,

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 2>not through buying influence, but directly controls levels of power.

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 3>We have to make sure that some of these levels

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 3>of power will be taken away from them.

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<v Speaker 2>And the one the first one is the United States Congress,

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the House, and it's not not much so we have

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>three need three Republicans to shift site, or you need

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 2>win these three or more or more seats. It's doable,

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's very important to to to raise

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the temperature to put more pressure on Republicans. They have

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 2>to feel that, you know, that's eventually they will have

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.959
<v Speaker 2>to make a choice between loyal to Trump and their voters.

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why everything that is happening on the floor of

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the House or on the floor of the Senate. It's

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 2>absolutely it's it's the most important action now. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm very reluctant.

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<v Speaker 4>How to.

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<v Speaker 2>Suggest that the Democrats should look for a new for

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<v Speaker 2>a candidate for twenty twenty eight. You cannot jump over

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>because looking for a leader for twenty twenty eight means division.

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Now we need unity because we have to again take

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the levels of power in twenty twenty six. If Donald

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Trump controls the House after twenty twenty six elections, mitermal elections,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can forget about twenty twenty eight. They

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>will never ratify whatever result is. So keys twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our project, and it's a project of guaranteeing

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>that America will enjoy, will have a privilege of having

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>free and fare elections. And I can tell you that

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>they will do absolutely everything to control the process in

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. That's why now we have to build

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the momentum. And every time the Democrats, like Congressans Law

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>or others expose these lies, demonstrate that the members of

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Trump administration is a nominees prefer loyalty, you know, blund

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>loyalty to Trump, to facts, to truths, to the interest

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>of American people that's gold.

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's really important that there be an

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>organization that lifts up what I would say, or the

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>fighting Democrats. And I'll give you a couple of names

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of people that I think are are important in this moment.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Chris Murphy from Connecticut in the United States in it Uh,

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Cory Booker uh from the United States Senate. There's a

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>governor candidate in New Jersey who I think will be elected,

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Mikey Sheryl Abigail Spanberger in Virginia, Joscelyn Benson in Michigan.

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 4>You have Jason Crow born to Colorado.

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>You have Jake Auchincloss from the state of Massachusetts. Uh.

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 4>You have a wide.

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Range of younger candidates and members of Congress. AOC is

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>out there, but right you know to what you were

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>saying earlier, you know, to I see a person saying AOC, yes,

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>a leader. But if you have a huge rally where

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>there's huge cheers that go up when the Palestinian flag

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>is thrown over the American flag, I'm not on board

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>with that, everybody, and I'm not getting in line. And

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you can have ten thousand people or one hundred and

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand people at that rally, shouting me down and

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>shouting a lot of people in the country down, which

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is one of the lessons from four years ago, when

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>people tried to talk about the obvious but got shouted down,

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>shouted down on the cable news show, shouted down in

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the congressional caucuses, shouted down everywhere. So all the people

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>who were great at shouting down, I would suggest that

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Gary Kasparov is right about that that listening right is

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>an important skill in politics. More listening, less talking. And

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>so in a coalition right that's gonna come together in

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, it means winning seats in places like

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Montana that may not be up for the agenda of

0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Socialists who were popular in Brookes.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 4>In the Bronx.

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>And the problem is that you have a fair number

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>of people that want to impose what is someone's belief

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>here but doesn't really fit over here. And there's a

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>word for that, and the word is intolerance.

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 4>And so the.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party has an intolerance problem for a broad perspective

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of American opinion that can agree that we want to

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>live in a free country under the US Constitution. And

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>so that's the coalition that's got to come together. But

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>my question is, how do you give expression to the

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>voices of millions? Right when the leadership of the Democratic Party,

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>with all of their power, walks into a room and

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>points at Chuck Schumer and it says, that's our guy, because

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>for example, he doesn't inspire me, and I don't want

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>to follow him anywhere, and I don't want to burn

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>any money giving him more more of it to misspend

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>on an election. So what what do we do? What's

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the nature of the problem is we think about in

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>opposition that can be meaningful in twenty six.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Look, one of the Trump's problems is is age. How

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 2>can you go after Trump with his age if you

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>have Schumer and Pelosia around. So, for God's sake, I

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 2>grew up in the Soviet Union, and we had so

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>many jokes about our Polyburo, But the average age of

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 2>Brezlu's Polyburo.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Was under sixty eight years.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>When Gorricho was was elected Polyburo, he was just forty nine.

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 2>So Breziev died, you know, at seventy five. And it says,

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>so it's it's and we again we were making jokes,

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, that says, look at these people. That's ald.

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, of course medicine is better now it's American

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 2>and Soviet Union. But still, you know, it's just if

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.399
<v Speaker 2>we want to expose Trump, so we have to bring

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.240
<v Speaker 2>new people in. So yes, we Chack Schumer and Nancy Pilosi,

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, just just okay now for us is not

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 2>officially a leader, but we know who's calling the show.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>So we need new names, new faces, fresh blood. You

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 2>mentioned many of them, they're just you know, just some

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>of them under fifty. Some of them does over fifty.

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>But that's what's needed. The Democratic Party has to go

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>through also renewal. And it's it's too slow. It says

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to go away. So it's this, it's wrong.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 2>It is wrong. And again it's it's you can't convince people,

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 2>but if you have the same faces around, you have

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 2>to show that it's a new party, whether this two

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>party system is still functioning properly. It's it's a big

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>open question or right now, we don't have time to

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 2>build a third party. But Democrats must recognize that, you know,

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>just it's it's their last chance to rebuild. It's you know,

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>it's the whole structure and to and to come up

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 2>with a big coalition. And also just if you look

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>at the most successful Democratic presidents, so just you know,

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 2>uh back, so that's in the twentieth century. You have

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>two governors, Okay, Obama is a separate story, but Clinton

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 2>and Corto, so there's two two Democrats who are who

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 2>are governors in the Red States. So you just have

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>to look for different kind of a candidate. And again

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 2>is it possible. Yes, absolutely. You can mention Shapiro, you

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>can mention Bishar. I mean you have a lot of people.

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 2>You can look for, some top you know, military brass

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 2>so like Admiral mccraven, some great people that could inspire confidence.

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:35.280
<v Speaker 2>And also to be patriotic, we should not let Donald

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Trump and and and his chron is to run on

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 2>the campaign of American patrioges. It's not America first, it's

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump first. But in order to expose it, just

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>to show that it's it's it's just words and nothing

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 2>behind it, we need to offer a proper alternative that

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 2>will inspire people and will make Trump look bad.

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 4>So there are.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Two institutions right that have outsized impoortance that the American

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>people get a vote on. One is in the US Senate,

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>one is the US House, and in a perfect world,

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>both of them are held by Democratic control. Part of

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the problem is that in the US Senate, Democrats have

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>disinvested over forty years from eighty percent of the landmass

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>of the country. And the consequence of that is that

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>we have states that the Democratic Party relates to as

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>if they're not part of the United States, like, for example, Iowa,

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>where Jony Ernst, for one hundred and fifty seven different reasons,

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>should be a very eminently beatable candidate because of her

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>many hypocrisies. But put her aside for a second. That

0:39:55.320 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>as a strategic matter, right, if there's one lifeboat and

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you can only save the House or the Senate, all.

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 4>The senators are going to drown. And we're going to.

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Try to save the House because that is the more

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>inviting hill to climb and to take and to seize.

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And the House right, which has a very narrow MAGA majority,

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.399
<v Speaker 1>is vulnerable to falling. And so when you look at

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the when you look at the House right in taking

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>it in twenty twenty six, the campaign committee that will

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>control the majority of the funding and the strategy is

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>run by the same people who've run it every year

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and are the architects at a disaster in Washington, DC.

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>So when you think about the strategy, the moment which

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>seems to me is that you need people right to

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 1>run in these districts. Is either Democrats right or independence right?

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>And I say Democrats because we have a two party system,

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and that's a vehicle, like a car.

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 4>It's better to be in the car than the horse

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 4>and buggy.

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But could run as an independent in some of them

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>as well, but that there has to be a grassroots

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>movement that gives weight and support or creates a counterweight

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>to these Washington DC committees to support ordinary people who

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>will go to Washington to set things right. Because if

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that, I don't know how you create

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the critical mass right to have an alternative that offers

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.959
<v Speaker 1>better because in the end, right the election of two

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:44.720
<v Speaker 1>rival gangs in a competitive cycle of retribution against one another,

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 1>only it creates to the benefit of the fascist in

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>this case, which is the stronger and dominant genetic side

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 1>of the American character in this debate. We'll never have

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a dictatorship of the far left in the United States.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>We'll have a fascist government, right in response to the

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>fear of a far left dictatorship, which is part of

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the understanding of Trump's propaganda that's probably missing in a

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of the media.

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's let you said many things and I just

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 2>let you start, you know, just taking one by one,

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 2>because some of the things are very, very important, and

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 2>they're strategically important, they're historically important. Let's start with what

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you said about Magia majority. There is no Magi majority.

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Maga never never has majority of the country have I

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know, thirty thirty five percent. But the arrest of

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>the majority for GOP comes from people who believe this

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 2>is a lesser evil because if we look at the

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 2>history and again.

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 3>You made historical reference.

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:54.240
<v Speaker 2>So Maga fascism, I mean far right populism, authoritarianism always

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>came after the left as the.

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.479
<v Speaker 3>Response to this threat from the latter.

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 2>First communists, then fast but historically the fastest.

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Fraction of the society was always bigger. It's easier for people.

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 2>They say, law in order so that the communism is

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>too many fantasies. So Maga Vogue is about the same

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the same correlations as Nazi communists in the Environment Republic.

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 2>So Maggie is thirty percent, Vocu is fifteen percent. Mad

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 2>always wins bits vog, but Maddy is not a majority.

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 2>It's very important for us not to let Mother.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Use vogue to get to majority.

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 2>So when we look at at the composition of the

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 2>House or the Senate, Mody is not there, just dominating.

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Maggie is terrorizing the rest. And they, okay, they're covers.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 2>They don't know how to grow the spine. But senators

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>that you mentioned, I mean, I'm sure Errands she tried

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>to or she said she would maybe vote against hexas,

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 2>but they're terrorized. When Elon Mask says I would spend

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 2>ten million dollars for the primary, and because of Jerrymindering,

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 2>we know that primary in many states, in many congressional districts,

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 2>they simply decide the outcome of the elections. So they're terrorists.

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 2>They don't know how to fight against. So we have

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:14.760
<v Speaker 2>various options, actually two strategies here. What is we could say, okay, fine,

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 2>so let's you know, let's create you know, an organization

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that could protect the vulnerable Republicans, saying if Mask raises

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.320
<v Speaker 2>ten million, we can match it with and we'll bring money.

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 2>But you have to But On one condition. You vote

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>for a conscience, not for the country, not for the part.

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Again that's questionable. Second Onaleleage, make sure that they own it.

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>You go after them. Yes, Iowa is not a.

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Blue state, it's not even a purple state.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 2>But Erranst is vulnerable and of course, you know the economy,

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, could be a factor. But make sure

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 2>that people in the states, whether it's Iowa Ernst she

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 2>is running for.

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 3>The actions twenty twenty sixth, whether.

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 2>It is still is North Carolina, that's much closer that purpose.

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 2>What is cornin in Texas? It's also not to one side.

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 2>It's fifty three forty seven. Typically they split there. It's

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 2>not red state yet. So make sure that people know

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 2>that those are not Trump tariffs, but airth stariffs, kill

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Is stariffs, Hornon tariffs. Every time you have a scandal,

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 2>it's not oh Donald Trump nominated and a point and

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 2>pushed through hexcess who are just you know, as a

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>joke as ahead of the od Errs voted for him,

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 2>kill Is voted for him, Hordon voted for him. Let

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>make them own it. And of course you can do

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the same with members of the House. And then maybe

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>at one point they'll start scratching their heads and just thinking, oh,

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 2>God knows, you have little mask and Trump on one side,

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 2>but you have voters on the other side. So it's

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>about combined pressure. As of today, I don't see any

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 2>any any strategy that could lead to to forcing these Republicans,

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable Republicans to reconsider their bland load to Trump, which

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>is very much based on on on terror and and

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and their fear and lack of you know, of civil

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:05.720
<v Speaker 2>pacific courage to defend the country against the narrow party interest.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that there's two lines that that matter

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>in this to be right, and most of the attention

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:18.399
<v Speaker 1>is on the line to the front, which is that

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>place where Maga meets the rest of us and and

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and in front of us right is the Democratic Congress

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>led by led by Chuck Schumer, And I think there

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 1>has to be a line drawn behind them that is

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>reminiscent of Marshall Stylin's order uh as Stalingrad, which is

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>not one more step backwards or nine two. Yes, there's

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and so I mean this in the sense that there's

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a lack of fear of Democrats by the Democratic leaders

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>at the expense of the fear they feel towards MAGA

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and and that's how to be inversed and the expectation

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 1>reset that there's an expectation that you don't give an

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>inch here. And so from a strategic perspective, right, Wait,

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>if you were to walk in a room and talk

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>to these people, I think the first thing to express.

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 4>To them, right and I want to talk about how it?

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 4>How it?

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.879
<v Speaker 1>What's the best way to communicate this? Right, because there's

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 1>there's platforms that can aggregate many millions of us.

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 4>This yours, and it's and it's and it's.

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>This is that the moment requires a maximalist response in

0:47:56.719 --> 0:48:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the use of the Article one paw hours of the Constitution,

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 1>which is a coequal branch of government to say no.

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 4>And to stop and.

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>To assert all powers twenty four hours a day, seven

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 1>days a week, make every second of every minute of

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 1>every hour as painful as it is possible to make

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>it to get anything done, while simultaneously demanding demanding the

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 1>immediate accounting for all of our data which has been seized, stolen, hijacked,

0:48:53.280 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and sold to whom and where God knows, but a

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 1>demand that this happened and the use of power righteously asserted,

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:13.239
<v Speaker 1>to demand that these things happen, and to put it

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 1>before the voters, and to put everything under a frame

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of right and wrong, and to insist that in this

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>country then we follow the constitution right. And I think

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't make that argument without accompanying it with the

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>maximalist approach, because Trump is heading to a place where

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 1>he will assert the powers of the state against the

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>right of dissent before very much longer.

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, but you have to understand that this is an

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 2>existential threat. The existential threat. And I think a lot

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 2>of people we just just talked about it thirty minutes ago,

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 2>they think that, okay, twenty twenty six will somehow they

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 2>will regulate the balance and the voters will see it

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.879
<v Speaker 2>and they will shift, you know, from Drum back to Democrats. Ah,

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be automatic. So we have to

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 2>fight every day. And unfortunately, you know, looking at Schumer

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 2>or just other Democrats, they don't inspire confidence. So they're

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 2>not fighting there. They just play the same games. This

0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 2>is not the same game. This is not about you know,

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 2>making concessions here negotiating. You don't negotiate with those who

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 2>want to abandon the Constitution and whatever the hiding gigs is.

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 2>The Congress now just under definitely the House under leadership

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 2>of Johnson, I don't know, cannot call leadership. So it's

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 2>now turned into just into an extension of executive office

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.879
<v Speaker 2>and Center Tune also shows very little sign of independence.

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.280
<v Speaker 2>So we just have to demand that you know, it's

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 2>an equal branch of power of the government. Actually it's

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 2>a it's an Article one of the Constitution. You have

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:07.280
<v Speaker 2>to remind them every day. Just made them feel uncomfortable.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 2>That's what Trump has been doing. And he was very

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 2>good at that. He's still good at that. And they

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.320
<v Speaker 2>put pressure all the time, all the time. And the

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 2>another side again it says, yeah, maybe it's thought wrongs forget,

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's THEMN wrong. You know, it's a corruption, it's

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:25.800
<v Speaker 2>a blatant corruption. Yes, absolutely, it's very important to find

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>courage to say yes. Unfortunately, we had previous administration that

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>was not clear on these issues, neither on moral issues

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 2>nor on con corruption. But again it's it's it's in

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the past, yes, guilty, as has charged, but look at

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 2>here and what's happening those who are shouting about hunter.

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 2>Biden received fifty thousand dollars a months from Ukrainian company. Okay, fine,

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 2>you got it. How about Jared Kushta receiving two billion dollars.

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about those who are in power today. Yeah, absolutely,

0:51:57.640 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 2>as it says, yes, I see him by a big

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 2>r now going around. Now, how about you know the

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong you know with Trump receiving this this mega jet,

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you know of one hundred million dollars, while many American

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 2>universities who are known for their aunt Israeli, you know,

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Proma's position, received tons of money from Qatar. The answer

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 2>is the institute. These institutions, these colleges, they're private. I

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 2>disagree with what they're doing. I think it's wrong to

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 2>one of Qatar, but they cannot tax me, you me others.

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.840
<v Speaker 2>They cannot you know, subsidize, They cannot, you know, interfere

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 2>with our lives. If I don't want my kid to

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 2>go there, just to Harvard, it can go to Colombia

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. So we still have a choice in this country.

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 2>But we don't have a choice if we have a

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>government that is openly receiving bribes from foreign powers, and

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 2>it is this government has power over our lives, whether

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>it's taxes, whether it's a lot, I mean just it's

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a very long list, especially with those like Pambondi and

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 2>cash Ptel are very prevalent with with with the law

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>and application of the one.

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 1>The most egregious person who appears before the Congress is Christy.

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 4>Know and i've i've i've h I'm an alumni of

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 4>the staff.

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 3>But I think this is a very tough competition.

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 5>Right right, There's there's a bunch of them right that

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 5>are all competing for the podium and and I and

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to conclude this last couple of minutes to

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 5>role play with.

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 1>You a little bit and imagine this scenario, uh that

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>we are special government employees of the Committee's staff, and

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 1>we're we're walking back into the chambers in the back

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>of the committee room, right in the privates space is

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk about what's just just went on. And honestly,

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been there, I've I've had these experiences in my

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 1>in my career, and typically I don't find myself at

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a at a loss of words to say, but when

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:20.439
<v Speaker 1>it when it comes to Christy Nome, I'm genuinely at

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a loss of words. And I and I would begin

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. I said, well, Gary, what what do we

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 1>what do we ask her on the next round here?

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Because obviously right, I asked her what the color blue

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 1>looks like? Right? And I hold up right blue dot,

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>red dot. She's gonna tell me to go fuck myself

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 1>in in so many words, and Trump loves it. And right,

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I have a uh statuary responsibility, constitutional responsibility, right, and

0:54:56.520 --> 0:55:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and I have the power to to over cite her.

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 1>And she refuses, right to answer a question, refuses to

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 1>show any respect to the elected representatives of the American people,

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 1>just full on uh impersonator right of of either a

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 1>cult follower or think of her as what what do

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you do?

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 1>And the next questioning with somebody who brings in the

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:41.200
<v Speaker 1>attitude of a cash patel, who brings in the attitude

0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of a of a Christie numb I mean, she's involved

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>romantically with Corey Lewandowski.

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 4>It's an open affair. It's an open secret.

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 1>It's been reported in dozens of media around the world.

0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>They live across from each other, of course, taxpayers or

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 1>subsidizing that. I would ask her about that, right for

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 1>five minutes. But but there has to be an approach, right,

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that confronts the animus with the appropriate level of reciprocal something.

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>How do you think about that confrontation, Because the meaning

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of these confrontations is going to increase as the level

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 1>of confrontation and aggression of the administration increases, right, so

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 1>she will only be strengthened right in the service of

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the lie as this as this goes, as this goes forward.

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm yeah.

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 3>The let's say that the Steve.

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Every administration before Trump also could be caught on a

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 2>line whether a lies and lies. But this it's not

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:04.320
<v Speaker 2>just about lies, about contempt. They just you know, they lie,

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 2>They know that we know they're lying, and they take

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 2>prid of it because it's not about responding to American people.

0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So in this case to representsive American people, which means

0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 2>talking to the nation that elected uh uh uh uh

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:23.439
<v Speaker 2>this representatives. But it's it's it's a show for one

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 2>man only to show loyalty and is arrogant. So they

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 2>also want to be very arrogant. So and they believe

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.920
<v Speaker 2>they can stop answering questions, they can show the contempt,

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:36.920
<v Speaker 2>they can just you know, laugh, you know, just at

0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 2>our faces. Even if they've been caught with with with

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 2>with their lies. I mean, for instance, Cash Pattel, I

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 2>mean we know he was a special consultant for Qatar,

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 2>for the governor of Qatar. We still don't know how

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 2>much money he got from Qatar and what he has

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 2>been doing with Katar. So it's this is it's an

0:57:55.920 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 2>every director is it's it's known for being a consultant

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:03.320
<v Speaker 2>for mainsponts of terrorism and we don't.

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Agent somehow everything goes to Qatar.

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 2>So but you know, it's this.

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 3>We don't have power to force them to answer.

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 2>And again it's about levers of power the Republicans, they

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 2>control the House. Yes, it's only three three three votes,

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 2>but so far I don't see we're going to get

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 2>three votes. I believe that psychologically, knowing these kind of people,

0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:28.680
<v Speaker 2>there will be no three Republican shifting sites. They will

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:32.600
<v Speaker 2>be thirty or or none. So's it's not three four.

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 2>They should be a big bunch of them. And now,

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 2>following what you have you just said ten minutes ago,

0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 2>you have to put pressure on them. They have to

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 2>know that the oldest that every lie that is being

0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:45.920
<v Speaker 2>said there it's part of them and and them you know,

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 2>being covers not you know, not fulfilling their responsibilities, escaping,

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, or just running away from the town halls,

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 2>it will harm them. They'll pay the price for it.

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 2>So they have to know that not far away, very soon,

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 2>they have to make a choice between blind loaded to

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump and American voters that will remember them. But

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 2>it has to be campaigned, should be on a daily basis.

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:15.200
<v Speaker 2>It should have energy. Energy is very important. That's that's

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 2>how Trump and Advance fan because they had energy, and

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 2>looking at Harris and Voltz there was no energy. So

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 2>it's very important that we show that this energy to

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 2>fight for what is right, and you don't get it

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 2>with Sugar Colossi and the rest.

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:39.280
<v Speaker 1>So I think that when you look ahead, how do

0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you see the summer unfurling? Take us into the future here,

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's always that day.

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:51.400
<v Speaker 4>In the fall.

0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Comes in late September October, where you know, summer is

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>over right, the autumn here we be in autumn as

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a country.

1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Look, Trump is in office for less than four months,

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 2>less than four months, so that's why we are not

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:12.600
<v Speaker 2>talking about years.

1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:13.680
<v Speaker 3>We're not talking about months.

1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:16.840
<v Speaker 2>We're talking about every week, if not every day, that

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:23.480
<v Speaker 2>can change the uh, the evaluations and Donald Trump shows

1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:27.000
<v Speaker 2>no sign of slowing down. So's let's he's doubling down

1:00:27.080 --> 1:00:31.960
<v Speaker 2>every day, every week. So what do I expect is

1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:36.280
<v Speaker 2>that it's very likely that Supreme Court will tell hard

1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:38.360
<v Speaker 2>now to Trump on one of the issues. I guess

1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:41.160
<v Speaker 2>there are many cases, dozens and dozens of casesrey there.

1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:43.680
<v Speaker 2>They will not look at all of them, but lay'll

1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 2>take a few of them, and maybe on the burths

1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:52.640
<v Speaker 2>rights citizens burst rights. Maybe on some other cases there

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:56.880
<v Speaker 2>will be no Now the moment Trump faces Supreme Court

1:00:56.960 --> 1:01:01.680
<v Speaker 2>an quivocable no he what he will do. Likely he'll

1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:05.520
<v Speaker 2>tell go to hell. It's again, it's maybe. But if

1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:08.600
<v Speaker 2>the moment comes when Trump defies open Supreme Court, which

1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's I don't know likely, call it fifty

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:16.360
<v Speaker 2>to fifty, then we are going just straight into the

1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:20.040
<v Speaker 2>depths of the constitutional crisis, because Supreme Court has to

1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:24.480
<v Speaker 2>ask Congress, the House, and the Senate to respond. And

1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I believe in this case, Johnson and June will run

1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to the White House begging Trump to reconsider, and there's

1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:32.680
<v Speaker 2>a good chance Trump will tell and also go to help,

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:37.840
<v Speaker 2>and then we are, you know, just it's digging deeper

1:01:37.880 --> 1:01:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and deeper in the constitutional Crisis Insurrection Act. Trump contemplated

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<v Speaker 2>it back in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>with sexes in charge, Cash, Battel, and Bondy, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know or no him who will stop him from

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<v Speaker 2>doing such things. And don't forget Trump has few international

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<v Speaker 2>claims Greenland, Panama, maybe in Mexico. He already mentioned that

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<v Speaker 2>you could go off the Cortels. Uh, okay, let's set

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<v Speaker 2>aside Canada for a moment. Greenland, Panama and potential person

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<v Speaker 2>as Cortels, those things that might be very much on

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's agenda in the next three four months. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I think the summer could be very, very hot.

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<v Speaker 2>And if economy is not improving, though I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it will be as as tragic as you describe. So

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<v Speaker 2>we may see some serious clashes. And again I think

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<v Speaker 2>this year might be you know, a very a very

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<v Speaker 2>important one, not decisive one, but definitely next year, next year,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that should be all goal we have to have.

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<v Speaker 2>An our aim is to make sure that by the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of next year they will be powerful coalition that

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<v Speaker 2>will send a clear message, a very distinct message to.

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<v Speaker 3>Every Republican in the House.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh in a in the Senate, I said, every GP member,

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<v Speaker 2>not not the sell the mugget, but those who still

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have roomful when you that they have to choose,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they make a wrong choice, they will be

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<v Speaker 2>kicked out, not by Master Donald Trump, but American voters.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to have to be a powerful coalition that

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<v Speaker 1>comes together that can project real strength, real power, raise

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred million dollars with low dollar donations, where people

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<v Speaker 1>can come together, draw a hard line and reach across

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<v Speaker 1>the country and elect people to put a stop to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the insanity. I just want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining to having a conversation that just

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<v Speaker 1>reading the comments, I think so many people fascinated to

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<v Speaker 1>hear you talk and really get to see how you

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<v Speaker 1>see the world, such an honest voice and experienced and

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<v Speaker 1>having seen this before. One of the things that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>conclude is that we are in the two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fiftieth anniversary year of the founding of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America, and it's an extraordinary story. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>day that passes between this and July fourth of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six that does not have meaning. Right that was

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<v Speaker 1>not existential, when everything that was to come after wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just really moments away from being extinguished, when what they

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<v Speaker 1>called the cause is hopeless. And one of the one

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<v Speaker 1>of the stories that is commensurate to this moment is

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<v Speaker 1>the two hundredth anniversary of the Mark Key. The Lafayette's

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<v Speaker 1>farewell tour of the United States is he travels the

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<v Speaker 1>country and there's a real crisis in the country. Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson may or may not concede the election, which he

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<v Speaker 1>does in front of Lafayette. In New York City, Lafayette

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<v Speaker 1>visits the Harlem Free School, where his friend Alexander Hamilton

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<v Speaker 1>has played a key role in the founding. He execrates slavery,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lafayette travels the country. He really reawakens a spirit

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<v Speaker 1>in the people of gratitude, and he sails home and

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<v Speaker 1>the ship is re christened the Brandywine after the battle

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<v Speaker 1>that he bled at for America's independence, and off to

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<v Speaker 1>France Lafayette goes and on the two hundred and fiftieth

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the country will be two hundred years away

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<v Speaker 1>right from this moment. On the fiftieth anniversary of the

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<v Speaker 1>country that Adams and Jefferson who were the best of

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<v Speaker 1>friends and closest to partners in the cause, whose relationship

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<v Speaker 1>is torn apart by politics and difference, are reconciled in

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<v Speaker 1>the end, and they die hours apart on July fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, eighteen twenty six. In the aftermath, right,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred years on will be twenty twenty six. And

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<v Speaker 1>the American people look at this event with alle right

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<v Speaker 1>that this can't conceivably be a coincidence. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the country and you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, we have to consider, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility that a new king has not appeared suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>and without accident.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, A proposition that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a new one is being tested again, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is what happens when when people get power. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so all of this is academic, and then one

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<v Speaker 1>day you get a Carolyn Levitt who gets a taste

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<v Speaker 1>of power, and you see the zealotry in the eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see the gleam. Right, you see it in

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<v Speaker 1>all of their eyes, and you see the arrogance, and

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<v Speaker 1>you see the taking, and you can appreciate a new

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<v Speaker 1>All of the warnings that have been passed down and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the wisdom that's been accumulated, as we see

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<v Speaker 1>clearly what's clearly in front of us, and and what's

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<v Speaker 1>in in front of us is certainly very clear. And

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<v Speaker 1>Gary kaspar Off helped make it clearer tonight, and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. And Gary, I just want to hand it

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<v Speaker 1>over you to take us home and say good night

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody, and close it out with any wisdom you

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<v Speaker 1>might have as we move forward into another day in America,

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<v Speaker 1>as the sun breaks over the Cadillac Mountain off the

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<v Speaker 1>coast of Maine, and we have a new day ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, you mentioned the great experiment started two hudred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years ago. And it's not only in this country

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<v Speaker 2>that people kept this day. Or I grew up on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of arm courtin and always looked at

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<v Speaker 2>America as a beacon of hope and a fortress of freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>And still even was Donald from and all the wrongdoings

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<v Speaker 2>here in America today, still hundreds of millions, likely billions

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<v Speaker 2>of people still viewing America as the best hope for freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>So as a defender is the guardian of freedom against

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<v Speaker 2>tyranny in this never ending battle. And so we just

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<v Speaker 2>you know we have responsibility of defending it, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I can remind listeners about the motto of my substack,

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<v Speaker 2>the next move. Stop whinning, start winning, and the winning

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<v Speaker 2>starts with strategy. Let's discuss it, let's find it the

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<v Speaker 2>best optimal strategy, and let's implement it.

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<v Speaker 3>And to make sure that we'll be with victorious next year.

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<v Speaker 1>The next move, Gary casper Off, thank you very much,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you to all of you for joining. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Schmidt. This is the morning I invite you to

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<v Speaker 1>join this community where I promise to be honest, blunt

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<v Speaker 1>and direct about what is happening in this country. America

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<v Speaker 1>is in crisis. Follow and subscribe to this channel and

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you