1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops of today's episode of 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Reality with the King, Let's get into this great episode. 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: It was good, by far, the best episode of the season. 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: It was so good. It was so good. It was 12 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: so good. Gretchen, Tamra, Katie, the like Shannon, it was. 13 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: This was the episode that we've all been waiting for 14 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: because remember when Tamera it was what this was around 15 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: like mid to late last year, when she tweeted pretty 16 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: much that she quit the show and we were all 17 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: like wondering, what happened? What honey, Bunny, pudding Pie. We 18 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: just found out what happened. So let's get into it. Liar, Liar, 19 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Katie's on fire. Oh Katie, why am I gonna deal 20 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: with you? Out of the whether to love you or 21 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: hate you or skin you like last year's versace. Shout 22 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: out to Dina Manzo. Yes, where do we begin? We're 23 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: do we begin? Okay? So this episode, like I said earlier, 24 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: is going to help us understand why Tamer quit. And 25 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: there was so much nuances in this episode. But let's 26 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: just do a quick recap and overview. So what we 27 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: know since episode one is that Katie is alive. Katie, look, 28 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this. You are the reason for 29 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: the season. I mean, you have done more in two 30 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: seasons than Heather has done. I'm just this is no shade. 31 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: It's no shade. I'm just saying what Katie has done 32 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: in two seasons. I mean, I'm low key intrigued. She 33 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: said a big bub But Katie is cooking Now if 34 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: this recent allegation is true, Katie, that I don't know 35 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: what to tell you. Besides, I may now understand why 36 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Gina said in an interview that if you were to 37 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: come back to the show she would have to really 38 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: consider it. Okay, because Gina quit her job at Chili's 39 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: and now that she's working for the Ottoman Group, you 40 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: know as the real estate Mogo, she doesn't need this 41 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: check anymore, baby, so let's send Gina is willing to 42 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: sacrifice her paycheck. Okay if that means being on the 43 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: same show as Katie Janella. Okay, so here we go. 44 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Since the beginning of the season, I mean literally, since 45 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, Katie has been accused of 46 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: talking to bloggers, befriending them, telling them stories so that 47 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: she's able to let's just say what it is to 48 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: pretty much have the bloggers on her side and you know, 49 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: allegedly paint these women in a bad life. Okay, here 50 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: we go now episode one, she you know, Katie allegedly 51 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: spoke to a blogger about Emily's and the nanny and 52 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: her daughter and then all this other stuff. Right, whether 53 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: or not she dmn this person, come to find out, 54 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: Katie after two business days remembered, because when you lie, 55 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: it takes you up to two business days to speak 56 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: to your husband, your children, your priest to come up 57 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: with the explanation that doesn't paint you as a liar 58 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: instead to paint you as a truth to who's able 59 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: to all of a sudden remember something as if you 60 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: were an actress on a soap opera. Who was killed 61 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: for the second time, but came back to life, and 62 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: now that the amnesia has gone off and the anesthesia, 63 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: your memory is now better. Okay, so that was lie 64 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: number one, got it? Lie number two? Katie recorded Shannon 65 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: having an outburst to production. Okay, she said, I did 66 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: not record her video recorded audio. Then she said she 67 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, did remember who she told, who she sipped 68 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: it to whatever? But then remember that, Okay, I did 69 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: record it, but it was audio only. Then she said, 70 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: watch What Happens Live that Alexis Blina is a liar too, 71 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: and Alexis Blino fri into the show, who was the 72 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: fifth in her strangely on my very own show, had 73 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: to hear that Katie pretty much called her a liar 74 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: now in this episode. Although I was on your side, Katie, 75 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, rain drops, can I 76 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: believe the first five minutes of this episode, I actually 77 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: felt bad for Katie. So Shannon disinvited Katie from going 78 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: with them to get benyats because that's exactly what a 79 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: woman does over sixty she ostracizes people from her group. 80 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was so mean, and I'm 81 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: not a Katie fanatic. I'm not a Katie hater either. 82 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: I always believe right is right wrong as wrong. So 83 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: to ostra side somebody from getting vignette, I just thought 84 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: was rude. And to say I'm not going if she's there. 85 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: I did like that one bit, and I was actually 86 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: on Katie's side and I felt bad for Katie. I 87 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: really did. But child, that wore off and we're off. 88 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying a war off child. So this is 89 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: what's going on. Okay. They went to go see a 90 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: voodoo lady. So the Christians, Shannon, Tamra, and Gretchen were 91 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: feeling it. Okay, They're like, we believe in Jesus, you know, 92 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: we believe in Jesus junks, we do not believe in 93 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: a New Orleans woman practicing voodoo, although she's saying is 94 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: for positivity, okay, because I have never heard voodoo and 95 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: manifestation in the same sentence, but hey, what do I know? 96 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: So they felt uncomfortable, rightfully so, because I would as 97 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: well theym on any of the spirits, whether it was 98 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: positive or negative, to affect them. But this gag the 99 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: spirits followed y'all outside because it made Tamar reveal the 100 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: most shocking thing we have heard all season long, and 101 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: that revelation is that allegedly, okay, allegedly, Katie told Kei 102 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: Monique that Gretchen told her. Gretchen told Katie that Tamar 103 00:08:50,400 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: allegedly tried to roofy her. So this alleged accusation heard 104 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight with the infamous line of Naked Wasted, 105 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: where Gretchen was on the show as well as Vicki 106 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: and Tamra and Child. I can't tell you who the 107 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: rest was because those were the force multipliers. Child. That 108 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: show belonged to Vickie, Tamara, and Gretchen, So I can't 109 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: tell you who else was on back in two thousand 110 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: and eight. But what I can tell you is this, 111 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Tama dropped that bob because the spirits that she tried 112 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: to escape from the voodoo lady, That vooty lady said, look, bitch, 113 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna disrespect my institution okay, and cast a spell. Allegedly, Oh, Tamra, 114 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: I said, bitch, how about I'll set this up for 115 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: you said you want to leave my situation? Okay? Because 116 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: think about it, Tama's revelation affected who those three ladies, 117 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: Uh huh. The spirits for following allegedly. All right, So 118 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: Tamra then explains in her confessionals that back in two 119 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: thousand and eight when Gretchen was on the show, that 120 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Gretchen off pretty much on camera. That's they couldn't break 121 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: the fourth wall so much. But she pretty much was 122 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: saying that in quote unquote real life without the cameras, 123 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: Gretchen was a party, you know party, you know, God 124 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: used to get drunk, blah blah, blah blah. But that 125 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: on camera, essentially, you know, Gretcha was prim and proper. 126 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: So on the show that season, Tamra said that her 127 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: and Vickie wanted to reveal to the world the real 128 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: Gretchen and that's when they say, let's get her naked wasted, 129 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: And Tamra said, look, we did not want her to 130 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: get naked, you know, literally, we just it was a 131 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: wrong choice of words, right, But they just wanted the 132 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: world to see who they saw camera, which was Gretchen 133 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: being wasted. Okay, So that's how this all came about. 134 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: So what Katie allegedly is saying to Kikim Onnique, where 135 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: two journalists or bloggers contacted Tamra to tell her what 136 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: the rumor was that this is going to come out, 137 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: and Tamar said she heard this before they started filming 138 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: to show this season, but that she did not want 139 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: to bring it up because obviously that's such a gross 140 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: accusation that who wants that accusation to be a part 141 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: of his storyline? Nobody does. But Tamara brought it up 142 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: and she asked Gretchen. Gretchen looked visibly shocked. She broke 143 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: out in tears and then celebrating that she made the 144 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: right decision ostracizing Katie from getting a Begnet child. Okay, 145 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: and She's like, see see I told you look, yeah, 146 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: see see, I told you right. So that was Shannon 147 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Honey celebrating I'm in her Saint John. Uh huh. So 148 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: Shannon celebrating, like I told you, guys, Katie, you know 149 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: that's who she is. I don't want her around us. 150 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: I don't trust her. Tamra and Gretchen hug and I 151 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, this brought them together, and 152 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was very sweet, very nice, and I 153 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: love seeing that hug. Right. So I'm like, all right, 154 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: this shall be interesting. What is going to happen? Okay? Now, oh, 155 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: by the way, Gretchen shout out to you, because baby, 156 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: you ate you clocked it. Baby. Before I move on, 157 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: we have to give Gretchen who had the best moment 158 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: of his episode. When Shannon and her tears were complaining 159 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: about how Katie did something illegal, Gretchen said, well, Shannon, 160 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: with all due respect, no shade to you, you got 161 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: a dui which is also legal. Bitch. Gretchen, honey, you 162 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: ate all of that, all of that, all of that, 163 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: all of that, all of that, all of that that 164 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: you did that baby, you did that, you absolutely did that. 165 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: That was everything. And Shannon did what nothing, honey, but 166 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: ut exhale okay and said, okay, this bitch got me here, 167 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: all right, so let's move on. So the ladies then 168 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: returned to the hotel to get dressed, and Gretchen is 169 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: still really from the information she'd just been told. She 170 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: tells Jen what happened. Jen is shocked, and then Katie 171 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: comes in, like, what is going on? Slay spoke to Matt. 172 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: Matt is Katie's husband. Y'all. We don't see much of math, honey, 173 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: but that's Katie's husband, honey. So Katie says, what's going on? 174 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: You know, Slay spoke to Madden what's happening? And then 175 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: Gretchen tells her and listen, no shake. Katie looked shocked. 176 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: Like Katie looks shocked, although I was like with Carlos, 177 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: why did she look shocked? With Philly? Slade and Gretchen 178 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: spoke first. Gretchen told Slay what happened. Slave been called Matt, 179 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: Matt Been told Katie, and then Katie went to the MARYL. 180 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Street class online on YouTube and started studying her lines 181 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: of how she was going to act shocked. You know, 182 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Katie went down to the streets, took an improv class 183 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: so that she's able to perform like she was in 184 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: front of a theater on Broadway and forty second Street. 185 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: So Katie's acting skills came into place. She looked shocked. 186 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, the Matt told you what was said? Because 187 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Slade told Matt, because Gretchen told Slade. Again, it's a 188 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: game of telephone. This is reality with the King, and 189 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. So 190 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: Gretchen tune changed. Okay, She's like, well, you know, Tammer's 191 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: history with me is not the greatest, and you know 192 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Katie has never gave me any reason to not believe her. 193 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: So maybe Tamra did this or set me up. And 194 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: that's when I'm like, I think this is my opinion. 195 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: Of course, it's what pays my podcast. I think that 196 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: Slade got to Gretchen. I think Slade, let me tell 197 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: you out something. Pillow talk is a motherfucker. If you 198 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: are a married couple in a relationship polly or not, 199 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: singular or not, well, relationship is more than one person 200 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: cralos Okay, So if you are a relationship with one person, 201 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: two or five, pillow talk is a motherfucker because the 202 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: moment you tell your spouse about something, you are more 203 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: than likely going to side with the opinion of your spouse. 204 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's what Gretchen did. I strongly believed 205 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: in that moment Gretchen believed Tamara. I do. But when 206 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: she got back to her hotel, it called Slade. Slaye 207 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: had to remind her, well, remember Tamar is not the 208 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: most credible. Look what she did to you. Blah blah 209 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And that's why Slay took it 210 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: upon himself to call Matt so that Matt can get 211 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so that Mat can tell Katie so that 212 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: Katie can get in front of it. Okay, because they 213 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: did not want Tamar to win. That's my opinion. I believe, 214 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: deep down, Gretchen believed Tamar immediately until she spoke to Slade, 215 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: and then Matt gave Katie the play, and that's why 216 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: she came in with her slides and her scripts and 217 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: her memory to give the performance of episode. That's what happened. 218 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: I believe that I do now Ki Kim Monique, in 219 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: case some of you guys may not know who she is. 220 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: I love Ki Kim Monique. Kikim Monique has a radio 221 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: show on Radio Andy. She has a show called Reality 222 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: Checked along with Derinda Medley, the the Icon Honey from 223 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of New York. Okay, So Katie Monique, 224 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: so this is where we're going. Katie Monique denies using 225 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: Katie for cloud Kei Kim Monique says in a recent interview, 226 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: I have screenshots and I'll pull them out. So here 227 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: we go. On Page six's Virtual Reality podcast, Katie took 228 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: a jab at Kikim Monique and she said, I quote, 229 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: I'll just say that I looking back shouldn't have trusted 230 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: so many people, and I made a lot of rookie 231 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: mistakes with trusting a lot of people. But I was 232 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: trying to let them get to know me because I 233 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: felt like last season, you didn't get to know me. Okay, 234 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: she continues, you got to see snippets of my life, 235 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: but not really who I was. And then at the 236 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: reunion you got to see a lot of who I 237 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: was in a very negative way. So I thought, if 238 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: you are doing social media content, if you are writing something, 239 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: if you have a podcast, if you know who I am, 240 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: then you'll get it. So I was overly kind to 241 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: people that I shouldn't and have been. She also said 242 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: she assumed Tamar and Kiki had a conversation. Okay now, 243 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: kikim Monique responded on her podcast, and she says, I 244 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: want to let you know. I have screenshots and I'll 245 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: put them out later. When anyone is announced as a 246 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: new housewife, I go and follow the new housewife because 247 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, who are they following? Ki? Kim on 248 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Nique insisted she had never heard of Katie prior to 249 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: her being announced as a housewife, and that when she 250 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: went to follow Katie, she realized that Katie was already 251 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: following her. Kikim mo o Nique said that Katie was 252 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: a fan of hers. She continues in my quote, So 253 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is you followed me before I followed you, 254 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: and then I get a message I am honored. So 255 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: you were a fan of mine before, for I was 256 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: supposedly a fan of yours that was looking for clout. 257 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: Kicky then noted that Katie quote, making it seem like 258 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing this. I need the cloud. I host a 259 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: show with one of the most iconic housewives in fucking history, 260 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: and if I wanted to have cloud, trust me, I'm 261 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: gonna use other people than Katie Janella from second season OC. 262 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: And that's all I'm gonna say about that. So kickim on. 263 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: Nique denies using Katie for cloud. Okay, now, with this information, 264 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: Tamra goes sees Shannon and Shannon later on the episode. 265 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna rewind it back a little bit. So 266 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: Tamar came in with a glass of water what she 267 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: said was water. Shannon in the late in the episode 268 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: said that it did not look like water and pretty 269 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: much insinuating that Tamar has been drinking and the reason 270 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: why that's important is because when Shannon, Gretchen, and Tamar 271 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: left the Voodoo Lady, Tamra said that to Gretchen, like, look, 272 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: I apologize for things I've done. I said some crazy 273 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: things in my life. That's why I try not to 274 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: have multiple drinks. I try to have one and then 275 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: I pretty much, you know, try to be good after that. 276 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: So they're trying to draw parallels in terms of was 277 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: Tamra drinking alcohol the moment she walked into Shannon's room. 278 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: And the reason why this is so important, it's because 279 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: it's sort of a place out when my swetter child. 280 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: It plays out heavily towards the end of the episode. Okay, 281 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: so the ladies leave the hotel, they go to the restaurant. 282 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: On the way to the restaurant, Tamar tells family Gina 283 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: Heather all about what she told Gretchen the girls on 284 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Shock Heather already knew. On the other side, Gretchen tells Katie, 285 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe you did not say it, 286 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: and for the rector, Gretchen denies ever saying anything like that. 287 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Gretchen denies saying that Tamra tried to Roofie her and 288 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: all the other ladies believe too, that Gretchen did not 289 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: say that, that it doesn't sound like something she would say, 290 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: and if she did believe that, she would have said 291 00:23:53,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: it sooner. All right, So they're at the dinner They're 292 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: at the dinner table, child, so is Tamra, Heather, Gretchen, 293 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: not Gretchen, Tamra, Heather, Emily, Gina, and Shannon, and they're 294 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: talking about Katie. Then Katie, Gretchen and Jim walk in 295 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: and it's the most awkward thing because they clearly know that, Okay, 296 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: we're being talked about, right, So they sit down. Tamra 297 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: asked Gretchen if she can talk outside of the restaurant. Okay, 298 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: they have a conversation. Tamra asked her, is it okay 299 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: if I bring it up? If I bring up tonight 300 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: at the table what I said to you earlier about 301 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: what Katie allegedly, you know, told and these boggers. Gretchen's like, 302 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: and Gretchen reveals, look, I pretty much told Katie what 303 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: you said. And Tama's like, oh my gosh, what did 304 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: she say? Well, she denied it, and Tama's kind of like, 305 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: if you believe her? And then Gretchen's like, well, I 306 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: kind of do, and that pisses Tamar off. She goes 307 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: back to the table. She tells the table, I'm sorry. 308 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: As they're talking, Katie comes out okay. So then Katie 309 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: joins Tamar and Gretchen, and Katie denies it to Tamara. 310 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: Gretchen pretty much tells Tamar she believes Katie. Tama gets mad, 311 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: leaves tells the rest of the ladies. Can y'all believe 312 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: that Gretchen believes Katie. They're shocked. Shannon's pissed because she's like, 313 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get her ice out. I'm trying to 314 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: get her off the show. Damn it, I'm trying to 315 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: get her off the show. She recorded me, Okay. The 316 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: ladies try to defend Gretchen, like, look, Gretchen and Katie 317 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: are friends, so it's going to be hard for Gretchen 318 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: just to believe that her friend would do something so horrible, 319 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: and Katie is pleading that she never said it. Shannon 320 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: obviously is taking control of this conversation because she is. 321 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, Shannon is yelling at Katie saying, 322 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: I can't stand you. I listen, I have seen Shannon 323 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: be around people, in my opinion, who has done worse 324 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: to her, who have done worse. I'm trying of looking 325 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: at Shannon a little bit sideways, like, look, I think 326 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: Katie is a liar, but you're being vicious and mean 327 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: to Katie and I listen. If you don't want to 328 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: be around her, that's fine. But I think Shanna is 329 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: being grossly vicious to Katie and it's making me uncomfortable 330 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: to see that. I'm just being real. She's disgusting to Katie. Now. 331 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: While I think Katie is a liar, liar pants on fire, 332 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: I I her recording audio of you having outbursts, of 333 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: you allegedly yelling at people. I mean, you did it. Sorry. 334 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say, Like, you did it, 335 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: you did it, own up to it. What was she 336 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: wrong for recording you? Yes? But shit, these other ladies 337 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: have done worse things to you, and you're able to 338 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: be around them? Is I don't. All I must say 339 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: is I'm looking at Shannon real sideways. Baby, I don't. 340 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: I don't like the way she's yelling, got got got 341 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: gay at Katie. I don't like it. Okay, moving on, 342 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: So Gretchen and Tamara kind of get into it because 343 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: Tamra's like, fie, you believe her all good? And Heather 344 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: is trying to talk to Tama, like, look, you gotta 345 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: see things from her point of view, and timas like 346 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: she talked about me, she called my husband, get this 347 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: is this is about Gretchen. She she talks it about me. 348 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: She commented on my daughter's polls, she called my husband gay, 349 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, baby Gina went in. Gina 350 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: went off on Tama. I said, I don't like what 351 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: you're doing. Respect the table, baby, this. Gina said, this 352 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: is my table, this is my dinner. Baby. Gina is 353 00:28:52,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: cashing chance, honey, auntman checks Ryan, her hat checks honey. Baby. 354 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: Gena said, you really respect me, honey if my thieves? Baby, 355 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: come on, Gina. Gina was on playing with the girl Sadie. 356 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: Gina is yelling at Tamra, and what was crazy to me? 357 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, did y'all edit something out? So rain Jaws 358 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: watched this scene again. If you've seen it already, If 359 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, watch it closely. Right before Gina 360 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: yells at Tamera, it's a weird at it. I'm like, 361 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: it's like they cut out something, something that warrants Gina 362 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: for yelling. Watch it again. Gina's yelling comes out of nowhere, 363 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: and then she pretty much scorns and chest hides his tamera. 364 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Something was cut out. Let me tell y'all something I've 365 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: seen it. This is when child listen to me. Something 366 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: was edited out. Something happened that was edited out. Because 367 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: the way Gina yelled at Tamra did not match to me. 368 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: It did I match. And they're accusing Tamara being drunk. 369 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: They're flashing back to Tamra in Shannon's room. They showed 370 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: the glass. It does have a little tent to it. 371 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's you know, water from the faucet. 372 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a Seltzer tequila baka. I 373 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Okay, but baby, They got 374 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: a close up shot of the glass and then Gina saying, 375 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: your eyes are my eyes open? The other eyes closed? 376 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: She said, you slouched, accusing Tamar being on xanax. I mean, 377 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: these accusations were flying across the room. Everybody, Shannon, Heather, Emily, 378 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: They're all like, even Jen, like, Tamra, you're not being yourself, 379 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: are you okay? What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong? Are 380 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: you drunk? Like, what's going on here? And maybe Tamar 381 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: had enough and left and said I'm going home. Then 382 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: Heather tries to go out and talk to Tamarra. Tama's like, 383 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: go be with them, leave me alone. I'm gonna go home. 384 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: She walks down the flight of stairs, honey, her boots 385 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: and her denim dress. By the way, that was a 386 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: cute off for Tamar. So Tamar her dinum honey, cowboy Tamra, Honey. 387 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: She walks down the flight of stairs to a boy Heather. 388 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: She sits down on her phone. She talked to the 389 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: production are y'all calling me an uber? Am I calling 390 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: myself uber? Are y'all calling me your cardey? Because I 391 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: am the og this motherfucker I deserve some respect. By 392 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: b Tamra texts Gina fuck off. Oh my god, this 393 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: episode was fantastic. So then Tamar gets in her uber 394 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: hoody maybe what's a lift and she's at the backseat 395 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: and she's like, I need to be here. Then she 396 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: posts on Instagram how her reality is real. Fuck this shit, 397 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: and she's out peace, I'm out, and the girls are 398 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: gagging and Carlos King was gagging, so now we know 399 00:32:54,200 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: why she did that post. This episode was epic. This 400 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: I love this show so much. OC is just fantastic. 401 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: It's all the housewives should watch OC. Miami's having a 402 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: good season two though. But the thing about OC is 403 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they tried to hold each 404 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: other accountable amongst the friend group, and I believe in 405 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: real life their friends and I believe they actually like 406 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: each other. That's what makes it great to me. I 407 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. I thought it was a 408 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: spectacular episode. We're gonna get more into this next week 409 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: because I felt like this is the episode that's gonna 410 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: kick off a lot of allegations that we have been 411 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: seeing on social media before the premiere. This episode was 412 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: a ten out of ten, ten out of a ten, Katie, 413 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: I'll out of the girl. I've kind of warped it 414 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: up to you. Ge Gandy, I ever liked you because 415 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: this episode bade me was the gift that kept on giving. 416 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by Me Carlos King, 417 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with The Lack 418 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube 419 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: channel at the Carlos King Underscore