Speaker 1: I'm Heather Durow and I'm Terry, and we're going to
Speaker 1: keep this between us, but not really.
Speaker 2: No, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good, I recovering.
Speaker 1: I am recovering as well. We have two graduations on
Speaker 1: separate coasts one day apart, and then we are taking trips.
Speaker 1: So we always do a trip at the end of
Speaker 1: the filming season for Housewives. That's like our thing, and
Speaker 1: we didn't have time because the twins were graduating, so
Speaker 1: we decided to take it afterwards. I have to say, I,
Speaker 1: at the end of filming season this season, you're.
Speaker 3: Blown out, destroyed more than you usually are.
Speaker 1: I stayed in bed the day after we wrapped the
Speaker 1: show this year, season twenty. I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: that the next day, I did not get out of
Speaker 1: bed till are you ready for it?
Speaker 2: Two pm?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was two.
Speaker 2: PM, and I'm telling you I was sleeping.
Speaker 1: I got up a little, I went back to there
Speaker 1: might have been a romantic moment, and then I went
Speaker 1: back to bed again and I was in bed until
Speaker 1: two was that TMI? I was in bed till two pm.
Speaker 1: I have not done that since college.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two pm.
Speaker 4: I've never seen you get blown out by a season
Speaker 4: the way you got blown out this season?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, I don't know why particularly I will
Speaker 1: talk about it as we go. By the way, are
Speaker 1: you guys following me on substack? Do you know what
Speaker 1: substack is?
Speaker 3: Not? Really, do you know what substeck is?
Speaker 2: Have you been following me?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Substack is like if Instagram and Twitter had a baby
Speaker 1: and pinterest Instagram, Twitter and Pinterest had.
Speaker 2: A baby, and it's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Like I used to have this newsletter that I love doing,
Speaker 1: and I would write it and like get all my
Speaker 1: links and do all my things. And then I got
Speaker 1: a little busy stopped doing it. And then I feel
Speaker 1: like people were just chat gpting newsletters, which irritated me,
Speaker 1: so I stopped doing it.
Speaker 2: But this substack thing is different.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like thought starters and conversations and and
Speaker 1: I I loving it.
Speaker 3: What is that called squirreling?
Speaker 4: When you start on one topic you immediately go to
Speaker 4: another's nothing?
Speaker 2: Why did I do?
Speaker 3: I remember? We started with the you were slept from
Speaker 3: the housewife things?
Speaker 1: See this is how tired I am. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I'm so blown out. But all right, I don't I
Speaker 1: honestly don't know why I squirreled out. Yes, yeah, well
Speaker 1: I don't know what I am. I was so tired,
Speaker 1: so blown out.
Speaker 4: By Yeah, and I was equally blown out by Mother's Day.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to say it.
Speaker 2: Why were you blown out by Mother's Day?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about what Terry Debrow did on Mother's Day?
Speaker 1: He got up at what time?
Speaker 2: Eleven?
Speaker 1: Yes, he got up at eleven am. Yes, he studied
Speaker 1: for a case. He's an expert witness on Yes, he
Speaker 1: came outside and hung out with me for thirty five minutes.
Speaker 3: Laid out the pool, got a little.
Speaker 2: Hey, hung out with me for thirty five minutes.
Speaker 3: Little pressure evening.
Speaker 2: Then he went to the gym, went to the.
Speaker 1: Gym, and then he got ready and he went out
Speaker 1: with me and the kids to dinner.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was what he did on Mother's Day.
Speaker 3: That was pretty good. And I got your present.
Speaker 2: He got me a present that I ordered you.
Speaker 4: Oh, actually you did not order it? Actually not true? No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I had no.
Speaker 3: Okay you think you did.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about this later. But you actually did. Okay,
Speaker 4: I know because I remember, Oh maybe you did.
Speaker 3: You don't have one? Did? She called me?
Speaker 4: She goes, remember that thing the Heather really wanted that
Speaker 4: I thought a year ago, I go, yeah, it's in.
Speaker 4: I go, awesome, Mother's Day, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that supposed to be my Birthday present though? And
Speaker 1: then it was going to be the Valentine's Day gift.
Speaker 3: We combined them.
Speaker 2: And then it was the Mother's Day.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was like a stew, a stew of presents.
Speaker 4: There's a little meat, and there's a carrot, and there's celery.
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't care about the gift. My
Speaker 1: one thing that I think you did not do well
Speaker 1: on Mother's.
Speaker 2: Day it was the card.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: It was a very nice card.
Speaker 1: But so on my Birthday you forgot to give me
Speaker 1: the card, and then on Valentine's Day you forgot to
Speaker 1: give me the card.
Speaker 3: And the card I didn't forget. I did not forget.
Speaker 4: Those cards were slightly apologetic because I had been maybe
Speaker 4: not so attentive leading up to it, so they were
Speaker 4: kind of apologetic, right, cards, And I thought, well, they
Speaker 4: just don't work anymore.
Speaker 1: Okay, But what you told me was at the time,
Speaker 1: so I was like, am I ever getting my cards?
Speaker 1: And what you said to me, was you know what,
Speaker 1: I really just want to say something different now.
Speaker 2: And it was really very loving the.
Speaker 1: Way he said it. Because we had had like a
Speaker 1: week or so where you know, we're getting along that well.
Speaker 1: So he wrote something. He said to me, you said
Speaker 1: to me in a very loving way. You were like,
Speaker 1: I just want to say something different.
Speaker 3: I did whatever.
Speaker 1: But that card never came. I got a very nice
Speaker 1: Mother's Day cards different. I never got that loving Birthday Valentines,
Speaker 1: I need to say more important things card. I got
Speaker 1: a really nice Mother's Day card, but it wasn't that card,
Speaker 1: and that's what I was expecting.
Speaker 2: Wow, do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: And I will consult chatchp T about that because CHATTPT
Speaker 4: wrote the card.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm not kidding. I thought that I wrote a
Speaker 3: great card. He did.
Speaker 1: It was a great Mother's Day card. But I was
Speaker 1: expecting the card that you pitched me.
Speaker 3: But I had moved.
Speaker 4: But honey, New Time, new season. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: who remembers what happened last season.
Speaker 1: Because it just goes by the wayside. But in any event,
Speaker 1: we had a lovely Mother's Day. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: with you, but I went to I went to Hot
Speaker 1: Matt Pilates with Nikki and Katah, which was great, and
Speaker 1: then we got a smoothie and then we came home
Speaker 1: and I saw Ace for a little bit, and then
Speaker 1: I went to the gym by myself and like I
Speaker 1: did like one of those long extended workouts, which I enjoyed,
Speaker 1: and then I sat.
Speaker 2: Outside by myself.
Speaker 1: I came down and then you came down for thirty
Speaker 1: five minutes, which was very left.
Speaker 3: That's why I was only there three.
Speaker 2: Nikki, because I was already down there an hour and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 3: You have judn't text me for okay, no one wants
Speaker 3: to hear this.
Speaker 2: And then Nicky came down and hung out anyway.
Speaker 3: And then what was the president? Everyone wants to know's?
Speaker 1: Oh he got me a really beautiful pair of earrings. Yes,
Speaker 1: gorgeous earrings. Yes that matched some other jewelry I have
Speaker 1: and they were stunning.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: So graduation is this weekend.
Speaker 1: So Mother's Day was great, and now this week there's
Speaker 1: so much going on. I'm like purging the kids rooms.
Speaker 1: I am I have to move storage stuff. I am
Speaker 1: setting up all the kids summers. Everyone is going I mean,
Speaker 1: the four of them are really going in different directions,
Speaker 1: and there's travel involved and and there's a lot.
Speaker 4: Are we getting specific about the plan because it's a
Speaker 4: very interesting graduation plan. Yeah, so Nicki's graduating, We're going
Speaker 4: right from Nicky's graduation ceremony to a plane.
Speaker 1: Yes, because Nicki is graduating in la on Saturday and
Speaker 1: Max's graduated. Like literally, Nickis graduation is over at one
Speaker 1: pm on Saturday and Max's begins at nine am on
Speaker 1: Sunday in Boston.
Speaker 4: Right, so we're taking your aunt, your mom and the
Speaker 4: kids and the kids, popping on a plane and going
Speaker 4: right to Boston, Boston.
Speaker 1: With the time difference everything, even if we leave it too.
Speaker 1: We land at like eleven m.
Speaker 3: And then we go to Max's ceremony.
Speaker 1: So Max has two ceremonies. There's like Nicky's is just
Speaker 1: one big ceremony. Max they do like an all school event.
Speaker 1: Then there's a little two hour break and then there's
Speaker 1: her particular college.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you and I get on a plane.
Speaker 2: Well then we're having a dinner first, Oh, we're.
Speaker 4: Having dinner, and then we get on a plane and
Speaker 4: we fly away and we go on to st We're
Speaker 4: done with them and we're going on one of those
Speaker 4: fabulous trips with our best friends.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're going with Richard and Daisy. They're not meeting
Speaker 1: with us for the whole time, but part of the time.
Speaker 3: Richard and Daisy.
Speaker 2: You know what, that's one of my favorite rit things
Speaker 2: to do. I have to say. I love so Terry.
Speaker 1: And I have the best time alone. We could talk
Speaker 1: till the cows come home, like all the things. But
Speaker 1: there's something really fun about meeting up with another couple
Speaker 1: and doing you know, dinners and lunch, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: like having friend time with our besties yea, and then
Speaker 1: having and then we have a loan time too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Love that.
Speaker 4: And they're really amazing to travel with because the best
Speaker 4: they call, they go, you know, we don't want to
Speaker 4: do that today. We go, fine, well, see you later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've traveled with them. It's fun to have friends
Speaker 1: that you've traveled with so much. Yes, that you you
Speaker 1: get each other.
Speaker 2: You can like I.
Speaker 1: They know that I always make the reservations and the
Speaker 1: plans and everything. So I do that, by the way,
Speaker 1: on my substack. Now that I'm squirreled out on my
Speaker 1: sub stack, I'm going to go back to well I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you because everyone always wants to know
Speaker 1: how I pack and the places that we're going, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm we're not telling you where we're going
Speaker 1: right now, but when we come back, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: where we went, and then you can go see where
Speaker 1: we ate and what we did and yeah, all.
Speaker 4: Those fun anyway, So we're going to like one of
Speaker 4: the greatest places to go to vacation.
Speaker 2: It's so fun.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's the perfect blend of like rancho, relaxo and party.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because we had heard about this place
Speaker 4: our whole lives, never went there, and finally we went
Speaker 4: there and we thought, oh it. Actually it lives up
Speaker 4: Very few places live up to the hype. Paris lives
Speaker 4: up to the hype.
Speaker 1: We love Paris. We're going to Paris in September. Celine
Speaker 1: Dion is doing a handful of shows.
Speaker 2: And we are going.
Speaker 4: I think Manhattan lives up to the hype. Yes, you know,
Speaker 4: Oh my, it's the most amazing.
Speaker 3: It is the most being city. I love it. It's
Speaker 3: going to be fun. I'm looking forward to spending that
Speaker 3: time with you.
Speaker 4: We too, and here now officially between seasons, yeah, which
Speaker 4: is a really interesting place to be between seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe season twenty. Think about that.
Speaker 1: We started the show when our youngest was nine so old,
Speaker 1: and he is getting his permit in two weeks and
Speaker 1: he will be sixteen in December.
Speaker 2: It's just insane, that insane. Yeah, it's been a long
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 1: I think the bands are really going to love this season.
Speaker 1: It's very layered, nostalgic and fun.
Speaker 2: Those are the words I'm want to give it.
Speaker 4: What I'm looking most forward to about this graduation thing
Speaker 4: with Max and Nikky is.
Speaker 1: I know it's the it's the cheese store sandwiches that
Speaker 1: you're going to eat.
Speaker 2: On the plane.
Speaker 3: That's that's number two, number one Vincent.
Speaker 2: Oh, you get to see your grand You have to
Speaker 2: see Max's Okay, I don't think we're going to see him.
Speaker 3: What do you mean I'm not going to see him.
Speaker 3: I don't think we'll be seeing isn't she staying in
Speaker 3: the hotel with us? No, he's staying in in her apartment.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to get to see him.
Speaker 2: We're there for such a short period of time.
Speaker 4: You know what I find the most interesting weirdest, are
Speaker 4: you kidding me? Thing going on right now? What Spencer Pratt?
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: So Heidi montag is going to be the first lady
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles?
Speaker 4: It's is that such a thing as the first lady
Speaker 4: is the Mayor's wife is the first lady?
Speaker 1: Not well the mayor s as they say on Ginny
Speaker 1: and Georgia.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I just think, first of all, have you
Speaker 4: seen his ads, his ai, his use of ai?
Speaker 1: Yes, because when you're up at two am you watch them.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the most brilliant thing I've ever seen ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So, so Spencer was a villain.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: What's interesting to me is that I sort of Spencer obviously.
Speaker 1: When the fires happened and we saw that Spencer and
Speaker 1: Heidie's house burn down, they made big news and he
Speaker 1: was everywhere and he was fighting for rights and insurance,
Speaker 1: I believe, and all kinds of things, which was really impressive.
Speaker 1: And a friend of mine, Scott King. Scott was working
Speaker 1: with Heidi on music videos for her new songs or
Speaker 1: her repurposing her old songs and all this kind of things.
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden we started talking about Spencer
Speaker 1: and Heidi and we were talking about them all the time,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's running for mayor.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: It's funny because when you listen to him, because I listened,
Speaker 4: I go, Okay, what's this bencer Prant guys a moron.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I never listened to him, and I listened to my go.
Speaker 4: Everything he's saying makes makes sense. Everything he says mixes
Speaker 4: what does meaning that he's the guy that but I
Speaker 4: don't you know, if it's the same people doing it
Speaker 4: over again, it's not going to work.
Speaker 2: We definitely need a new regime here.
Speaker 1: I think that when you have someone that is so
Speaker 1: invested in this city and this community.
Speaker 2: And understands can't get any worse.
Speaker 1: Not only can't get it worse, but maybe with someone
Speaker 1: at the helm that actually cares about what about the
Speaker 1: fact that this is the best city ever and it's
Speaker 1: and ruined and it's ruined, and you know what.
Speaker 3: Do you vote for him?
Speaker 2: I would?
Speaker 3: I weirdly would too.
Speaker 4: But the way he's doing the most powerful podcasts there
Speaker 4: are right now, he's doing all in. He's I mean,
Speaker 4: everybody's interested in Spencer Pratt.
Speaker 1: I think he has something to say and I think
Speaker 1: all I hope. And I think this is true from
Speaker 1: things I hear about him and from him, is that
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to know what he doesn't know and
Speaker 1: will surround himself with those people that are smart enough
Speaker 1: to actually know those things. But maybe the guy leading
Speaker 1: the charge, who's so you know, passionate, is the best.
Speaker 3: I'm in the shower, truth be told.
Speaker 2: Did you try singing again?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm in the shower, and I'm thinking, Wow, Spencer
Speaker 4: Pratt probably maybe will be mayor. And then I thought,
Speaker 4: it's amazing. You can go from being a mid level
Speaker 4: or his case, low level reality star.
Speaker 2: Does this mean you're going to rull for a governor?
Speaker 4: This is where I'm going to something so significant. I thought,
Speaker 4: if Spencer Pratt can be mayor of Los Angeles, what
Speaker 4: are you going to be?
Speaker 3: What can Terry Dubrouke.
Speaker 2: Well, what could you be? Honey? What do you want
Speaker 2: to be?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to be mayor because that's
Speaker 4: Spencer Pratt. I mean, you know, he's.
Speaker 2: Got to got to go higher.
Speaker 3: I thought, governor? Could I be governor? Could I be
Speaker 3: a senator?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Terry debrou Yeah, But then I got to be your
Speaker 1: first whatever, and then my life is like following you around.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. Yes, I say no,
Speaker 2: I will buy you a plaque.
Speaker 1: What kind of plaque that says like Governor Dubreu, Senator Dubreu. Yes,
Speaker 1: put it on your desk. I'll call you that sometimes
Speaker 1: at night, if you And.
Speaker 4: Then, by the way, not to make this all to
Speaker 4: finish this with being all about me.
Speaker 3: I was listed.
Speaker 2: Why would we stop?
Speaker 3: One hundred and.
Speaker 4: Five year old doctor just died recently, one hundred and
Speaker 4: five hundred and five Wow. And he you know, he
Speaker 4: had his like top five suggestions secrets to living along?
Speaker 2: Yea, what was on there?
Speaker 4: One of them was, you know, always be interested, always
Speaker 4: keep your mind working. He went to law school wait
Speaker 4: for it, at age sixty seven.
Speaker 3: He did, really he did.
Speaker 1: I keep telling you should go to law school. The
Speaker 1: only problem is you want to go to law school
Speaker 1: with our daughter Max. I do, and she does not
Speaker 1: want to go with you.
Speaker 4: But if you called her right now and ask her
Speaker 4: if she if she'd want me to go to.
Speaker 3: Law school, probably would she was. She'd love me to
Speaker 3: be interesting.
Speaker 2: What she needs to make friends and do your own thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take care of Vincent. So yeah, so I
Speaker 4: might go to law school, I might run for senator.
Speaker 4: Yeah what about you? What if you weren't doing what
Speaker 4: you're doing right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that well.
Speaker 1: First of all, and I have not been quiet about this,
Speaker 1: but I really would love to do scripted, yes again
Speaker 1: in some capacity. I don't know what that looks like,
Speaker 1: but I would love to do that. And I am
Speaker 1: I know this sounds so like I'm I'm working on
Speaker 1: things because I you know, it's just like, don't talk
Speaker 1: about it, let it happen. But over the last several years,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always like developing something, pitching something, you know,
Speaker 1: we have a game show, or pitching it out.
Speaker 2: We have this, we have that.
Speaker 1: So there are some scripted things circling. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they'll come to first or not. I do like
Speaker 1: working on those things. I also enjoyed producing, and I
Speaker 1: have some things in that lane that I'm working on
Speaker 1: with producing partners that I'm excited about. So I think
Speaker 1: I would like to continue down that path. I would
Speaker 1: like to do scripted, more scripted and producing. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: things I really enjoy doing.
Speaker 2: Stand up was the scariest.
Speaker 1: I just did it for research for a musical I
Speaker 1: was doing, and it was really fun and really scary.
Speaker 3: Dandas going to be the horror of the hardest.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what the thing is. It's like you
Speaker 2: can't like.
Speaker 1: I had a cute act, right, it was fine, no
Speaker 1: one heckled be I was cute whatever.
Speaker 2: But when you work with real stand ups and.
Speaker 1: You see what they do, it is just it is
Speaker 1: a skill set. You are just naked on that stage.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I wouldn't mind singing again, like
Speaker 1: I would love to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I miss singing. I'd like to do that again.
Speaker 3: Funny.
Speaker 4: My favorite music right now is AI generated music. I know,
Speaker 4: it's the weirdest thing. You know why. They know exactly
Speaker 4: what people like. They know what all the hit songs
Speaker 4: have been in history, and they can sort of make
Speaker 4: a song that is based on what people have loved.
Speaker 4: And every time you hear it, the first time you
Speaker 4: hear it, it's as if you've heard it a million times.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't agree with you.
Speaker 3: I love AI music.
Speaker 1: I would say that for me, and I'm sure AI
Speaker 1: will catch up eventually, But for me, the best stories
Speaker 1: come from people's like trauma. Whether it's funny, drama or
Speaker 1: sad or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Those stories become.
Speaker 1: The best movies and the best songs and all personal experience.
Speaker 1: And I think without personal experience, it's a little shallow
Speaker 1: and hollow.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3: I love a music. I know you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just want to tell you how proud
Speaker 4: I am of you of getting through another season of
Speaker 4: Real Housewives. How I think you were brave. I think
Speaker 4: you showed a lot of sort of fortitude and courage,
Speaker 4: and you didn't get I don't think you got ted.
Speaker 4: I don't know what rains to be seen because I
Speaker 4: wasn't there for most of it. But I'm really proud
Speaker 4: of how you got through another season and interacted with
Speaker 4: everybody and you're still standing.
Speaker 3: So I love you. Graduation.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You know what I find so interesting, It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we have four kids, but our twins are the oldest,
Speaker 1: so whatever they do is our first time experiencing that thing, right, right,
Speaker 1: So these are this is the first time we've had
Speaker 1: kids graduate college, and I sort of gave them both
Speaker 1: this speech. It's a little different for Max because she's
Speaker 1: going to law school. But for Nikki, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: when you graduate college, it's the first time in your
Speaker 1: life that you and your peers are not all on
Speaker 1: the same page. You're not all doing the same thing,
Speaker 1: because from birth till then you're all told you you know,
Speaker 1: you go to school, you do your sports, you have
Speaker 1: your summer camps. You know, you do the thing, and
Speaker 1: you go to college and you graduate and then people scatter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it can be very I think depressing, It
Speaker 1: can be.
Speaker 2: Very scary, and you know.
Speaker 1: And then people succeed at different times. People get married
Speaker 1: young sometimes, or they start having families, or they find
Speaker 1: their you know, their job, they're raison de etra their passion,
Speaker 1: their thing, or they don't find it till later. But
Speaker 1: not everyone's on different paths.
Speaker 2: Then it's a.
Speaker 1: Very very peculiar point in a person's life. And so
Speaker 1: especially with Nikki, I was like, I want you to
Speaker 1: prep for this a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's going to be you know, it's an adjustment.
Speaker 4: Yes, in other words, go get a job quickly. Yes,
Speaker 4: get off the doll wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 3: Point?
Speaker 4: In my generation at eighteen, it was out by you
Speaker 4: pay everything on your own right, now they want to
Speaker 4: stay home till they're forty.
Speaker 1: When our kids were little, people would tell us our
Speaker 1: friends in Newport Beach. They'd be like, oh, the kids
Speaker 1: never leave there till they're thirty years old.
Speaker 2: And we're like, oh please, And now we're going. So
Speaker 2: they're twenty two, they're doing college. I know, the only
Speaker 2: eight years.
Speaker 4: I think this is the toughest time in the history
Speaker 4: of humankind to be young, go out and get a
Speaker 4: job and compete with all the things that are unfolding.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm excited for our kids. I think
Speaker 1: Max is going to have the best time in law school.
Speaker 1: Nikki very entrepreneurially is lots of lots of irons in
Speaker 1: the fire, an opportunity right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the nice things about going
Speaker 4: to professional school because you didn't have to worry about it.
Speaker 4: You knew three years and five days from today, I
Speaker 4: know exactly what I'm going to be doing.
Speaker 1: See, it was scary. I thought that I was going
Speaker 1: to go to New York after college. I graduated Syracuse
Speaker 1: Visual Performing Arts musical theater, right, and I was going
Speaker 1: to go try to do Broadway. And so me and
Speaker 1: my friend Jill were looking for apartments whatever, and I
Speaker 1: got passed on this court shoe. Two episodes did that
Speaker 1: in Florida. They flew me out to la to audition
Speaker 1: for this other thing that didn't end up going, but
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, let's try it out, and me
Speaker 1: and my sister packed it up and moved to LA.
Speaker 2: I had no job.
Speaker 1: It was like, it was such an odd time, and
Speaker 1: I remember even living with my sister, it was like lonely.
Speaker 1: And then I started singing at Disneyland. I mean, like obviously,
Speaker 1: like things then started happening. I had banned a fourteen
Speaker 1: piece big band we put together, started performing with them
Speaker 1: and all that. But that first year it was like,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's like to graduate college and
Speaker 1: go to professional school and you're.
Speaker 2: Still on a track.
Speaker 3: It's easy, it's nice, you know.
Speaker 1: I moved out with all these a lot of other
Speaker 1: kids that went to Syracuse, not actors, like all different
Speaker 1: you know, career paths and majors in college.
Speaker 2: They had no idea what they were doing. It was terrifying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's I mean I pretty much knew what
Speaker 4: I was going to do seven years after graduating college.
Speaker 1: About it crazy, Yeah, that's pretty lucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's lucky. It's a lot of work.
Speaker 1: Well, what I will say to everyone out there if
Speaker 1: you have graduates, all the graduates have different you know,
Speaker 1: things like the eighth grade and the high school and
Speaker 1: the college. But whoever your graduate is, By the way,
Speaker 1: if you live in California, buy them alay.
Speaker 2: Here's your official reminder, because it's a thing.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: Yes, everyone gets a lay and if you don't know that,
Speaker 1: get them alay. Even if they say they don't want it,
Speaker 1: get it because sometimes everyone else has one.
Speaker 2: Always get the lay. So you got to get them alay.
Speaker 4: And the obvious joke, obviously is what don't get laid?
Speaker 3: No, everyone you know I got laid.
Speaker 2: Where are we going with this?
Speaker 3: When you graduate, you want to make sure you get laid.
Speaker 2: It depends what grade you're in.
Speaker 1: But no, but I just want to say, like to
Speaker 1: the moms and dad's out their life.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm going to get emotional, but it's like you
Speaker 2: only get this one time. Yeah, it's just one time.
Speaker 2: And like when the kids, I remember when they graduated.
Speaker 1: They've all graduated eighth grade now, all of our kids, right,
Speaker 1: and there's just like I mean, I always say this,
Speaker 1: but middle school is just a cesspool. It's just the worst.
Speaker 1: And so that is such a huge milestone. And then
Speaker 1: when they graduate high school, no matter where they're going, college,
Speaker 1: professional school, the military, they have worked so hard to
Speaker 1: get through that and so many trials and tribulations that
Speaker 1: that's such an important, important moment. And then graduating college
Speaker 1: or professional school even you know, all those all those
Speaker 1: moments are such huge rights of passage.
Speaker 2: And even though we didn't do it.
Speaker 1: For them, you know, watching them, encouraging them, being their cheerleaders.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it's like it's an emotional
Speaker 1: moment for everyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it's like ecstasy. They're one year closer
Speaker 4: to being out of the house forever more.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited about that. See ya.
Speaker 2: No, I mean that's fine, but you can have a real.
Speaker 3: Moment too, by the way, that is real.
Speaker 2: That is how you feel, all right.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's very exciting to have them.
Speaker 2: Uh see, I think this is the mars Biness thing.
Speaker 2: I just think you.
Speaker 3: Don't want to be an empty nester admitted.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying is to me,
Speaker 1: when I think about each of our children, and watching
Speaker 1: their journey and who they these little baby kids who
Speaker 1: you know, I slept all over them place to their
Speaker 1: classes in school and the things and the homework and
Speaker 1: the whatever, and all these things through all these years
Speaker 1: and watching them become less dependent on me and you
Speaker 1: and more independent, and the kind of young humans that
Speaker 1: they've all become, and how different they all are, and
Speaker 1: I find it so fascinating. I know there's so many
Speaker 1: parents out there that are like, oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: them to go to college, and I don't want them
Speaker 1: to leave the house, and I don't want them to
Speaker 1: leave our home, and I don't want to be an
Speaker 1: empty nester. Like I love it because I have found
Speaker 1: that each stage watching them sore, first of all shows,
Speaker 1: I think, what a great job we've done. And also
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to watch them fly. And I also
Speaker 1: love our relationships. I've loved every stage, but this is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite. Is having them be young adults
Speaker 1: and be like our Mother's Day dinner was fantastic.
Speaker 3: I like this stage the best.
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone has something interesting to say, and there's
Speaker 1: funny conversations going on, and there's you know, a little
Speaker 1: ribbing joking, but it's all in good front and there's
Speaker 1: respect and there's I love.
Speaker 2: It, yea, So I say, I know it's sad.
Speaker 1: I know i'm gonna cry when they graduate because it's
Speaker 1: like this next step, but I just love it. I
Speaker 1: think everyone out there should just be so appreciative of
Speaker 1: the time we get with them, and it will change,
Speaker 1: but it's still so good.