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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, arm Strong and Getty, and

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Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Getty. Here's the pitch.

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Speaker 3: Swinging a fly ball to right field, pretty well hit

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Speaker 3: freelick back at the wall, he jumps.

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Speaker 2: It's gone hate hate.

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Speaker 1: That peyt Alonzo with the most.

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Speaker 2: Favorable home run of his career. Pups as fast as

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Speaker 2: he round second. He's a three run homer. He's given

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Speaker 2: the Mets a three to two lead.

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Speaker 4: They all pour out of the dugout.

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Speaker 3: So the Mets took out the Brewers and go into

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Speaker 3: the next round of the playoffs. Mets Phillies and is

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Speaker 3: a West Coast guy. That's going to be a highly

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Speaker 3: annoying series. In the amount of coverridge. It's going to

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Speaker 3: get in the in the news if it's the only

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Speaker 3: baseball teams that matter.

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Speaker 5: So when that home run was hit, the Mets were

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Speaker 5: trailing by two.

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Speaker 2: I believe in the ninth inning.

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Speaker 5: Down to their last out or close to it anyway,

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Speaker 5: I haven't checked, but yeah, dramatic home run by the

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Speaker 5: polar Bear, the hero Pete Alonzo.

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Speaker 3: All I know is if you got New York play

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Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. I already saw it this morning on the

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Speaker 3: cable news. It's going to be if you're a baseball

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Speaker 3: fan of any other team, it's I wanted to mention this.

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Speaker 5: Only slightly less annoying than New York Boston, but almost.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to mention this.

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Speaker 3: It turns out that sometimes cops beat a guide to

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Speaker 3: death just because it's something cops do, and it ain't

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Speaker 3: because white people are out hunting black people.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: I had forgotten until I saw the picture because they

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Speaker 3: didn't mention it. If I hadn't been looking at the TV,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known it that there's three black police

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Speaker 3: officers that beat that poor guy.

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Speaker 2: To death and got convicted yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Horrifying, horrifying, But it's it's not politically useful to tear

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Speaker 5: down civilization, so it's not getting much attention.

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Speaker 2: Can it be a racial thing? Obviously?

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Speaker 3: But is it automatically obviously a racial thing if the

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Speaker 3: cop is white and the guy is black who dies

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Speaker 3: or gets abused?

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Speaker 2: Uh? No, obviously not no. And if you're a libertarian thing,

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Speaker 2: sad case.

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Speaker 3: If you're a libertarian, it ain't good news either that

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Speaker 3: everyoneants to walk cops because I got such an attitude

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Speaker 3: about things, or willing to beat somebody to death because

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Speaker 3: they're just sick of dealing with crime or whatever happens.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, Yeah, if this had been white cops, obviously

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Speaker 3: it would be an endless, endless story. Could have been

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Speaker 3: exactly the same circumstances with the exact same motive in

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Speaker 3: their mind that made them do something awful. But it

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Speaker 3: would be the president to be talking about it. Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harrison'd be talking about it anyway, just because to Shell, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think you hear what we're laying down. You're picking

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Speaker 3: up on what we're putting down.

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Speaker 5: So Jack and I were talking about what we were going

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Speaker 5: to talk about this segment. It wasn't that, it was

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Speaker 5: what's to follow, and we realized, hey, come on, now,

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Speaker 5: it's a California's crumbling. You want to start with Adam

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Speaker 5: Yamagucci on CBS Evening News last night.

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Speaker 2: Sure, this is a good one.

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Speaker 4: Forty five thousand people experiencing homelessness in the city of

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles. Nearly half of all Americans living on the

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Speaker 4: streets are here in California. Whether it was roughly one

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Speaker 4: shelter bed for every three people who needed one last year.

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Speaker 4: Karen Bass, mayor of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: You don't solve anything by clearing an encampment and just

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Speaker 2: moving them to the next street. I remember when yeah

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you make that street or that park or that

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Speaker 2: You have absolutely accomplished something.

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Speaker 3: Well. First of all, I remember when it first started

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Speaker 3: saying half all the homeless people in California. We got

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Speaker 2: It's not true. Look at these statistics.

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Speaker 3: Now mainstream media is caught up to the fact that

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Speaker 3: it's just a fact half the homeless people in America

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Speaker 3: didn't used to be that way.

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Speaker 2: What changed?

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Speaker 3: And don't give me the rents high that's why people

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, here's the headline for you. Out of Beautiful LA.

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Speaker 5: After spending five hundred and fifty million dollars, over seventy

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Speaker 5: percent of La County's Project Home Key homeless rooms are vacant.

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Speaker 5: They are vacant, They're not being used when it comes

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Speaker 5: to getting people actually housed. They spend the money, but

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Speaker 5: they don't care about the people. That's because the point

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Speaker 5: is the money.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, for some people it's a money grab it

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Speaker 3: say it's to the homeless industrial complex. But for the

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Speaker 3: because I know people like this who feel this way,

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Speaker 3: why are you unwilling to accept that there is a

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Speaker 3: certain part of human nature. There are enough people that

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Speaker 3: given the opportunity to just be high and drunk and

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Speaker 3: live on the street, are willing to do it. Why

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Speaker 3: do you think some societal cause had to make them

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Speaker 3: do that? And you can't accept that there's certain chunk

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Speaker 3: of people that want to live that way. I don't

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Speaker 3: understand why that damages your psyche to accept that that

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Speaker 3: they seemed to need in the past because they couldn't, right,

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Speaker 3: because you'd starve to death or freeze to death.

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Speaker 2: You can't now because there's so many handouts.

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Speaker 5: Are we talking about the actually mentally ill, physically handicapped,

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Speaker 5: those who have had one medical build that wrecked them

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Speaker 5: that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: No, of course, not, absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: You've got to separate those different sorts of people out

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Speaker 5: to solve the problem instead of making it worse and

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Speaker 5: worse and worse. Gavin Newsom presiding over California, which is crumbling. Michael,

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Speaker 5: I got a cup your guitar. I should tell this

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Speaker 5: story before we move on to another version.

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Speaker 3: I was. I'll be vague about this, but I was

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Speaker 3: around a woman the other day who was telling the

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Speaker 2: Running the streets for a while.

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Speaker 3: And her thing was she'd hook up with a different

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Speaker 3: homeless girl. She couldn't have been very old, because you're

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Speaker 3: not very old now, but she was running the streets.

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Speaker 3: She'd hook up with different homeless guys to get booze

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Speaker 3: and drugs because they were they would supply it for her,

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Speaker 3: and she got beat up constantly, raped constantly, but for

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Speaker 3: the booze and drugs they would and they would just

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Speaker 3: panhandle in the morning until they got enough money and

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Speaker 3: then be drunk or high all day long. Why would

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Speaker 3: you ever hand money to these people who are living

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Speaker 3: this lifestyle? But so many of you do. I see

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to see a piece about a county

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Speaker 5: in Colorado. I don't remember the name of it, but

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Speaker 5: they launched one of those handouts don't help campaigns and

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Speaker 5: have completely reduced the number of panhandlers and beggars on

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Speaker 5: the streets. They got the word out. Look, these people

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Speaker 5: are junkies. They want drug money. That's what they're doing. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: California is crumbling. A couple of headlines worth take a

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Speaker 5: quick gander at Gavin Newsom's maximum deception on California's minimum wage.

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Speaker 5: These stats are out there, are undeniable. He's trying like

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Speaker 5: crazy to spin them by manipulating the statistics. But California

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Speaker 5: is down a net fifty four hundred fast food jobs

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Speaker 5: this year. President, employees are working fewer hours, Automation is growing.

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Speaker 5: It has done terrible damage to people who made money

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Speaker 5: doing that. Now I'm intentionally not using the term made

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Speaker 5: a living doing that because starter jobs have never been

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Speaker 5: intended to support a family or make quote unquote a living.

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Speaker 2: And the idea that.

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Speaker 5: You need a living wage that a father of three

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Speaker 5: can flip burgers and support his kids since when should.

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Speaker 3: Have made it clear or maybe it's obvious that if

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Speaker 3: you don't live in californ you one of the reasons

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Speaker 3: you should pay attention to this is one lots of

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Speaker 3: policies at start in California, go to your state. And

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Speaker 3: two the current person tied to be president of the

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Speaker 3: United States is from California, Senator from California, then vice

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Speaker 3: president and claims this is a model for the country.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Trump and Vance have done a good

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Speaker 3: enough job of tying California to Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 5: And let me do a little political math for you.

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Speaker 5: So you have Gavin who's a very bright guy. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he understands what's happening here. It can't possibly have escaped

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Speaker 5: him because it's so obvious. But he will lie to

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Speaker 5: the very people he's claiming to help, even though it

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Speaker 5: he can stay in power and continue the two way

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Speaker 5: hoes of money back and forth with the public employee unions.

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Speaker 5: So he is damaging the very people he claims to

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Speaker 5: help to get elected over and over again.

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Speaker 2: And it's evil. It's absolutely evil.

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Speaker 5: The most needy among us are the victims of his policies,

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Speaker 5: speaking of which is incredible lack of wisdom. God, there's

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Speaker 5: a picture of him. He just makes my skin crawl. Uugh,

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Speaker 5: I predicted this drill, baby drill in his hair. Partly

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Speaker 5: I predicted it, and I'm bringing this up to pat

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Speaker 5: myself on the back, but also because I just love it.

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Speaker 2: Love it, love it, love it, love it.

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Speaker 5: It took like two days for a federal judge to

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Speaker 5: block that new California law restricting the use of deep

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Speaker 5: fakes and deceptive humor or whatever the law said in California.

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Speaker 5: Newsom said, the other day, I just signed a bill

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Speaker 5: to make this illegal in the state of California. You

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Speaker 5: can no longer knowingly distribute an ad or other election

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Speaker 5: communications that contains materially deceptive content, including deep fakes. Immediately

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Speaker 5: labeled the anti parody law.

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Speaker 3: If that law was going to stand, would you apply

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Speaker 3: it to ads for props in the state of CALIFORNI

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Speaker 3: you are, which are incredibly deceptive?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the ballot propositions. Yeah, indeed. So I love this

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Speaker 5: from our friend Katie Grimes. Screw the first amendment, Newsom said,

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Speaker 5: as he signed Assemblyville twenty six fifty five. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 5: Not really, but he was probably thinking it. Am I

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Speaker 5: going to be arrested for making a joke about Newsom?

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Speaker 5: She asks, So there's immediately a lawsuit filed by the

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Speaker 5: Hamilton Lincoln Law Institute on behalf of Christopher Coles, known

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Speaker 5: as mister Reagan, the creator of fabulous satirical political videos,

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Speaker 5: and the judge essentially said, are you kidding me with

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Speaker 5: this crap?

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Speaker 2: No, that's a brief summary of the.

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Speaker 5: Decision, but yeah, as predicted, please, I can't you know what?

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Speaker 5: I wish I had the wording of the law in

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Speaker 5: front of me. I probably do. It's a bit of

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Speaker 5: a long piece here, because the law talks about deceptive

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Speaker 5: content that could mislead voters or help or hurt someone's

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Speaker 5: electoral prospects, so it clearly clearly covers humor.

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Speaker 2: That's the point of political humor.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, it was gratifying to see that he was

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Speaker 5: spanked and sent home to Mama immediately by the first

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Speaker 5: federal judged.

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Speaker 2: Even glance at the law unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Well, thanks to judges, California is crumbling less than it

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Speaker 5: would have been without them.

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Speaker 3: It's insane that half the homeless people in the entire

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Speaker 3: United States, a country of three hundred and thirty million people,

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Speaker 3: half the homeless people are in one state. We didn't

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Speaker 3: So this happened yesterday in California, Garth Brooks accused of

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Speaker 5: Hush money. No matter how much or how little, is

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Speaker 5: as he said in a statement, that she has repeatedly

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Speaker 3: Would you pay it or would you? Did you fight it?

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Speaker 3: Just on principle, I think you have to fight it.

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Speaker 3: I think you have to too, But I can see

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Speaker 3: how a lawyer would convince you. Look, you fight it,

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Speaker 2: And it's my cause this much more money my counter argument.

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Speaker 3: God, there's somebody I don't remember who, a high profile

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Speaker 5: Just the idea of you will make a tacit confession

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Speaker 2: I don't care what it costs me.

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Speaker 5: What I hope I am going to make clear what

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Speaker 3: What I hope didn't happen, which could come out, is

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Speaker 2: Yeah it happens. Oh god, dang it.

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Speaker 3: What a horrible situation speaking predatory that whole dock workers strike.

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Speaker 6: McDonald's announced today it will begin offering the chicken Big Mac.

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Speaker 3: It's like the original Big Mac and contains roughly the

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Speaker 3: I like a big Mac, but it doesn't taste anything

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Speaker 6: I'm a huge fan of this idea because I used

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh was this formerly big Katie Green? Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: I could slam some mcchickens. You know, do you only

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Speaker 3: know you as thin hot Katie? So sorry I shouldn't

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Speaker 3: you file the lawsuit but uh, I'm practically Garth Brooks.

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Speaker 6: I just really enjoyed Big Max, and I really enjoyed

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Speaker 3: a way you could put that in a bowl or something?

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Speaker 5: They probably should have They should have hired you and

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Speaker 5: clearly clearly well, speaking of big business, this guy won.

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Speaker 1: Now I have the president screaming at me. I'm putting

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Speaker 1: Well, go one from thirty moves an now and maybe

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Speaker 1: here in the long run, You're better off sitting down

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Speaker 1: and let's get a contract and.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on with this world. And could today's world.

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Speaker 2: I'll cripple you. I will cripple you. And you have

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Speaker 2: no idea what that means.

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Speaker 2: But you would say that out loud, that oh, we're.

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Speaker 2: We'll cripple you. You have no power over. He's saying

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Speaker 3: no deductible starting day one.

443
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was just amazing.

444
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Speaker 5: Wow, it's too bad you've got good teeth. I mean,

445
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Speaker 5: you really could have taken advantage.

446
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Speaker 2: I was young and healthy, and I didn't take advantage

447
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 2: of any of that stuff. Yeah, that's terrible anyway.

448
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 5: So with that much money and power flowing through the

449
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 5: trucking industry back in the day, it attracted organized crime

450
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 5: because there was so much money flowing there, and so

451
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 5: the teamsters was completely mobbed with the trucking industry in

452
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 5: general was completely mobbed up during that period, and everybody

453
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Speaker 5: knows it. Asked Jimmy Hoff if you can find his bones.

454
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Speaker 5: But anyway, this Long Sherman's Union fight bones is very

455
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 5: much the same. All of this commerce is flowing through

456
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Speaker 5: on the East Coast at least it's like fifty thousand people,

457
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 5: and the West coast has a different union. But anyway,

458
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 5: a couple of respectives I thought were just terrific. Rich

459
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Speaker 5: Lowry in the National Review, it's the processing gate that

460
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 5: shook the US economy. Eight PM terminals in the Portomobile

461
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Speaker 5: Alabama use a semi automated gate to process trucks without

462
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Speaker 5: union labor. And this supposed outrage is one of the

463
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Speaker 5: reasons the International Longshoreman's Association went on strike. Never mind

464
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Speaker 5: that the gate has been in operation for years and

465
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Speaker 5: is more efficient and safer to checking admit trucks than

466
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Speaker 5: a human. The strike is a war on automation as

467
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Speaker 5: much as a push for higher wages.

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Speaker 3: That is what the media missed completely because they only

469
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Speaker 3: talked about the hourly wage, and the point was there.

470
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Speaker 3: The long shoremun in trying to stop automation from happening,

471
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Speaker 3: which is bad for all.

472
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Speaker 2: Of us, right right.

473
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Speaker 5: Machines don't pay taxes, said the president of the local

474
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Speaker 5: union in Mobile. Yeah, well, neither do wheelbarrows or iPhones.

475
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Speaker 5: We still use them as tools to make any number

476
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Speaker 5: of tasks easier and less time consuming. Harold Daggett, the

477
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Speaker 5: president of the union, is pledged to wage an unceasing

478
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Speaker 5: war on automation, famously makes a million dollars, lives in

479
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Speaker 5: a New Jersey mansion, giant yacht, et cetera. No word

480
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Speaker 5: on whether he insists that he and his family hand

481
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Speaker 5: wash their clothes and dishes or employ a laundress and

482
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Speaker 5: personal dishwasher in order to foreswear.

483
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Speaker 2: Reliance on labor saving devices. Good one.

484
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it just talks about how technology is constantly changing.

485
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Speaker 2: You have to embrace it.

486
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Speaker 5: We're getting whooped by China, the Netherlands, Singapore, Essentially everybody

487
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Speaker 5: who began automating in the early nineteen nineties, and how

488
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Speaker 5: this is such a choke point on everybody else in

489
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Speaker 5: the economy.

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Speaker 3: Well, right, if you're gonna go with the logic of

491
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Speaker 3: you pay a human a lot of money to do

492
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Speaker 3: a job that a computer could do, so the human

493
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Speaker 3: does not need it at all, well, then how do

494
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Speaker 3: you not extend it to just.

495
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Speaker 2: Making up jobs?

496
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Speaker 3: You have a person outside the building who you know

497
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Speaker 3: writes down the color of people's shoes every day and

498
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Speaker 3: gets eighty dollars an hour.

499
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Speaker 5: Well, except they don't actually have to write down the

500
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Speaker 5: color of the shoes, as I'll get to in a moment.

501
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: But a couple of other perspectives, this time from the

502
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Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal. President Biden had threatened the US Maritime

503
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Speaker 5: Alliance with legal action this week if they didn't give

504
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Speaker 5: in to further union demands. My administration will be monitoring

505
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 5: for any price couching activity that benefits foreign ocean carriers.

506
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Speaker 2: He said in a statement.

507
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Speaker 5: It was a direct threat to Maersk and other ocean

508
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Speaker 5: carriers if they added a surcharge because of the disruptions

509
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Speaker 5: and expenses from the ILA strike.

510
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Speaker 2: So one myth.

511
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Speaker 5: Exposed by the strike is that unions need more economic

512
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 5: and political power because they help the working man the

513
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 5: union behind the strike. The ISLA helps some workers at

514
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Speaker 5: the expense of countless others. Starting with the astounding fact

515
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 5: that there were fifty thousand or so ISLA strikers but

516
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 5: only twenty five thousand or so port jobs. Once again,

517
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Speaker 5: there are fifty thousand strikers, there are only twenty five

518
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 5: thousand jobs.

519
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: Wow, that's right.

520
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 5: Only about half of the union members are obliged to

521
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 5: show up to work each day. The rest sit at

522
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 5: home collecting container royalties negotiated in previous ILA contracts intended

523
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 5: to protect against job losses that result from yes innovation.

524
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Speaker 2: So this strike only lasted what four days?

525
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Speaker 3: But how bad a job did the mainstream media do

526
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Speaker 3: of covering this since they really only talked about the

527
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 3: hourly wage?

528
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 5: Right, Well, they run everything through the filter of a

529
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: ideology and b the upcoming presidential election. You know, you'd

530
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 5: be a lot better at your job if you'd stop

531
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: that in particularly all right, but there's more. You should know,

532
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 5: what a deal for those favorite few who do show

533
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 5: up to work. The twenty nineteen to twenty report of

534
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 5: the Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor laid out the

535
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: reality and I quote the absolute control of the International

536
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 5: Longshoreman's Association over hiring the port for over sixty years

537
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 5: has not only led to a lack of diversity and

538
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: inclusion in waterfront employment, but also the prepare situation of

539
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: criminality and corruption. Residents near the ports can't get hired

540
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 5: because the union control quote. Meanwhile, those are who are

541
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 5: connected to union leadership or organized crime figures are rewarded

542
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 5: with high paying, low show or no work special compensation packages.

543
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: Again, this is the.

544
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 5: Commission of the New York Harbor in a report that

545
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 5: came out just a few years ago.

546
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: More than five.

547
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 5: Hundred and ninety individuals continue to receive over one hundred

548
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 5: and forty seven million dollars in outside salaries not required

549
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: by the industry's collective bargaining agreement for hours they do

550
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 5: not even have to be here at the port. Such

551
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: positions were overwhelmingly given to folks connected to organized crime

552
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: figures or union leadership, and particularly.

553
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Speaker 3: The history of organized labor is so much of this,

554
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: where the wages are insane, the benefits, no show jobs,

555
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff, and you can't get the

556
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 3: job unless you're connected somehow, you know a family member

557
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: or a friend or whatever. So it's not like it's

558
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: open to everyone to even get these jobs.

559
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: Right right.

560
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Speaker 5: You know, I left out the fact that Kamala Harris

561
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 5: also made unmistakable noises about I'm on the side of

562
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 5: the union and I will hurt you if you don't

563
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 5: give into their demands, and they more or less split

564
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: the difference between the fifty percent offered pay raise in

565
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 5: the seventy seven percent that was demanded.

566
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like he long Sherman won this, Oh.

567
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean they the deal they have now

568
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 5: is completely mobbed up and based on how much power

569
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: very very few people have over the nation's commerce in

570
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 5: a way that is utterly unpalatable in a free market.

571
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: And they got a better deal than the one they

572
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 5: have now, which is ridiculous.

573
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Speaker 3: Our ports are operating at the technology of the fifties.

574
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Speaker 3: Listening to a transportation expert who was on MSNBC yesterday,

575
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Speaker 3: This was an MSNBC expert they had on, said, we're

576
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: working or running our ports basically the technology the fifties.

577
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: We're the slowest of unloading of any docks anywhere in

578
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: the world. With your big countries and we're falling further

579
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: behind and this isn't going to fix it.

580
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: Obviously.

581
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 5: Now, as a kid, I knew through my teenage hears

582
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Speaker 5: I guess a guy who was mobbed up in Chicago,

583
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: Liand I didn't know it at the time, but in

584
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 5: retrospect is so obvious. He you know, he had name

585
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 5: straight out of the Sopranos, and he had a what

586
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 5: is clear to me now a no show job more

587
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 5: or less on the waterfront of Chicago. I'll be a

588
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 5: little vague about it, but I spent a fair amount

589
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 5: of time around him and his circle and some family

590
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 5: type relationships, and I could never figure out exactly what

591
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: he did for a living, and he never seemed to

592
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: be at work, and he had plenty of walking around

593
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 5: money and was a little.

594
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: On the flashy side.

595
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 5: He was also a hell of a likable guy, very happy,

596
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: go lucky, I mean, a lovable guy. But as a teenager,

597
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 5: I was mystified at exactly what was going on there,

598
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 5: And now in retrospect it's so obvious. But yeah, so yeah,

599
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: these guys, they don't they don't have to work most

600
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 5: of the time. They make a hell of a lot

601
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Speaker 5: of money.

602
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: And and America begs on its knees to please let

603
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Speaker 3: up the rest of us. The other three hundred and

604
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Speaker 3: forty million of us continue to make a living and

605
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Speaker 3: buy products that at amounts, you know, prices we can afford,

606
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Speaker 3: and please don't cripple us. Because you said you will

607
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: cripple us.

608
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: I will give you.

609
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Speaker 5: This is not a story of the brave working man

610
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Speaker 5: standing up for his rights people.

611
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: That's why I don't get why all of the media,

612
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: both sides.

613
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: Trump and kamalav Fox and the other channels want to

614
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: be super sympathetic to the hard working man just trying to,

615
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: you know, do his job and his family. Why don't

616
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: they get into the details you just gave us and say, look,

617
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: we're all getting screwed by this. Anybody else got a

618
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: job where you make this kind of money for showing

619
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: up half the time?

620
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: No, you don't.

621
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of money and a lot of votes

622
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: in heaving union support and it is invaluable.

623
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: Apparently, man boy, anybody who thought that this sort of

624
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: thing was of the past, I guess we got a

625
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: lesson this week, didn't we? In particularly in particularly we

626
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: did is right? Seventy six foot yacht. That's gotta be

627
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: a nice yacht. Oh my god, that's a huge boat.

628
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: What's our buddy Dave's boat? Is that like forty five?

629
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: I think?

630
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, he lives on it. Yeah, so it's like another

631
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: one of those.

632
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: Wow, he'll probably text me as soon as we get

633
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: done with this.

634
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: We got a lot more on the way to day

635
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: with us.

636
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: Oh boy, we got something good for next hour.

637
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: Joe Biden just asked about the govern's response to uh,

638
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: the storm of North Carolina. Compare his answer with some

639
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: of the people who live in North Carolina and what

640
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: they're saying. Oh boy, Also today we'll get to that

641
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: hour three.

642
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 5: North Carolina, of course an American state full of decent people,

643
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 5: and we care about it for those reasons. But it's

644
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: also a swing state, and all of the undecided voters

645
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: in the swing states are getting the focus of zillions

646
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 5: of dollars worth of politics and political ads and attention

647
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: and speeches and the rest of it. And I came

648
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 5: across this bit of humor the other day about the

649
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 5: undecided voter.

650
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: Nancy, I'm so thirsty. Should I drink water? Guzzle the

651
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: gasoline straight out of the nozzle. I'm so thirsty, and

652
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: I haven't had a liquid in four days. Okay.

653
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: Google says that one ounce of gasoline is fatal to children.

654
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: I'm not a child.

655
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Speaker 1: Is that something I should take into account?

656
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: The GPAs says that you're left, should.

657
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: Do that or go off the bridge.

658
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: Don't do that. I did you ever go off the

659
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: breed before? Maybe it's a quicker ring. What's wrong with you?

660
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: My doctor's call? Hello, I'll need more time to think.

661
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: Nay.

662
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: Should I have them give me a massive breast and plant?

663
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: Or should I have them cut off both my arms?

664
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Speaker 2: Is that something they offer? There's no Hi, what can

665
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Speaker 2: I get for you?

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Speaker 5: Because she's at a fast food drive and it turns

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Speaker 5: with terror to her passenger.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to order. The undecided voter.

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Speaker 3: Now, that's funny that we would have this today, because

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Speaker 3: I've always felt that way about the undecided voter, just

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Speaker 3: like you must be bone stupid.

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Speaker 2: No, I disagree, But I was listened to.

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Speaker 3: Uh uh, what do they call focus group thing yesterday

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Speaker 3: on a zoom call with a whole bunch of political analysts,

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Speaker 3: and they had undecided voters on and that's not what

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Speaker 3: they sound like, And like, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't quite understand them.

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Speaker 3: But they all came off as perfectly capable, reasonable people.

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Speaker 2: Just for some reason.

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Speaker 3: And like I said, I can't quite figure out the

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Speaker 3: psychology of it. But for some reason, they aren't locked

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Speaker 3: into an ideology, which sounds like a good thing, but

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Speaker 3: they haven't crafted a worldview. They've managed to become like

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Speaker 3: a forty year old mom or you know, a fifty

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Speaker 3: two year old guy or whatever, it's succeeding in the world,

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Speaker 3: smart enough, enough candlepower, but they just haven't crafted a worldview,

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Speaker 3: which again escapes me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it seems very odd.

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Speaker 3: I try to understand it, but it's not they're not

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Speaker 3: lacking information that It didn't seem like they were lacking

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Speaker 3: information or like I said, intelligence, They just don't have

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Speaker 3: a if we had more of this in America would

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Speaker 3: be better or less of this in America. Mu, they

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Speaker 3: just haven't done that, pardon it for some reason, And

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know what that is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've run into various stripes of it, and

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Speaker 5: I could accept. You know, if you're busy with the

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Speaker 5: other parts of your life and you're not paying attention

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Speaker 5: to politics, and in fact, you don't really pay that

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Speaker 5: much attention to what government schemes work in which don't,

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Speaker 5: And you've kind of accumulated a worldview, as Jack said,

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Speaker 5: or kind of a mental scorecard of Oh, I've heard

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Speaker 5: that promise before.

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Speaker 2: It seems very foreign to me. But obviously those people exist.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't one of them. And I've been calling on

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Speaker 3: decided voters morons for years. How do you feel now

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Speaker 3: you believe there wasn't one of them that I would

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Speaker 3: have described as obviously dumb or even I wouldn't even

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Speaker 3: have called them low information. They seemed like they had

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Speaker 3: plenty of information. They they're just weighing everything without like

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Speaker 3: again a framework of the past or anything for some

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Speaker 3: reason right there.

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Speaker 5: And we've discussed this in a variety of contexts in

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Speaker 5: recent months especially, but there's a disconnect between elections and

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Speaker 5: policy and results in people's minds.

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Speaker 3: They don't connect those things. They act as if they're independent.

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Speaker 3: You're right, that is what it is. They don't connect

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Speaker 3: the policy to results, and so it's just wide open

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Speaker 3: to them who they and they still haven't made up

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Speaker 3: their mind.

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Speaker 2: They need to hear more. What's more likable, what

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty