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Speaker 1: that's one concern in the mid term that you know

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Speaker 1: your parties for you, but your opponents are more energized

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Speaker 1: against you. But then you look at those independents, right,

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Speaker 1: people who self identify not as either party, and he

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Speaker 1: is not only below, he's below among independents. And that's

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Speaker 1: the double whammy. Your party is not as energized and

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Speaker 1: independence are looking to throw you out of office, right,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty difficult to democrat out of office, absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: not in not in that state. Of course. Then again,

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Speaker 1: we remember him crawling out of the primary. It was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be his exit interview when I spoke with

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Speaker 1: him that of course, then South Carolina happened, don't thee

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Speaker 1: It's great to tell, do you. Let's stay in touch

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Speaker 1: as we make our way to November. Political science professor

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Speaker 1: at the University of New Hampshire. Hey, we may have

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Speaker 1: news on the mask mandate. The White House gonna sue

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Speaker 1: over this. We'll reassemble the panel next on sound On.

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with

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Speaker 1: Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Don't burn your masks yet,

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Speaker 1: how you did already? As the Secretary of Health and

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Speaker 1: Human Services indicates that the administration may well appeal the

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Speaker 1: ruling on the mask mandate airplanes, trains, planes, trains, and automobiles.

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Speaker 1: Secretary but Sarah as I read in the tweet from

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Collins of CNN, says the Biden administration will likely

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Speaker 1: appeal the decision overturning the mandate. Quote. We are right

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Speaker 1: now in the process of deciding, and we will likely

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Speaker 1: appeal that ruling. Stay tuned. Unquote, as I mentioned to

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Speaker 1: you reporters in the air today air Force one on

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Speaker 1: the way to New Hampshire, where Press Secretary Jensaki gaggled,

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Speaker 1: as we do use on a verb on this program

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Speaker 1: when not the White House here she is next steps

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Speaker 1: including the Department of Justice. Traditionally following court decision, that

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Speaker 1: can take a couple of days. So not yet, but

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Speaker 1: stay tuned. They were clearly caught a bit off guard

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Speaker 1: by this ruling yesterday, and they're still putting the pieces

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Speaker 1: together as we reassemble our panel with Bloomberg Politics contributors

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Speaker 1: Rick Davis and Jennie Chanzano. Genie, the first thing I

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Speaker 1: think when I hear appeal is number one, the political

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Speaker 1: risk that will come with this in a midterm election year.

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Speaker 1: I realized standing by principle, But we saw images, We

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Speaker 1: saw a video of people cheering on airplanes on the

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Speaker 1: announcement was made. They cheered, they smile, they took selfies.

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Speaker 1: Imagine being on the plane when the announcement is made

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Speaker 1: that the and date is back on. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 1: know that it's fascinating because the White House, they were

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Speaker 1: caught flat footed. But you have to step back and say,

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Speaker 1: how this wasn't you know something that dropped from heaven.

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Speaker 1: It was a court case. We all knew it was coming.

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Speaker 1: There was a decision that was going to be made.

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Speaker 1: It was made, and I tried to be patient yesterday

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Speaker 1: as they said they will provide an update soon. Well,

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Speaker 1: now we're twenty four hours later. As you mentioned, people

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Speaker 1: cheering as masks are removed, and they still are thinking.

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Speaker 1: You've got a Health and Human Service as Secretary say,

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Speaker 1: there's likely to be appeal. Joe Biden is out there

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Speaker 1: saying it's up to us to decide what to do.

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Speaker 1: Chaos rains. I'm in New York, where on public transportation

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Speaker 1: you need your masks, other places you don't. This is

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Speaker 1: no way to make public policy. And I appreciate a

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Speaker 1: judge made a decision here, but the White House could

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Speaker 1: have issued a stay or ask court to issue a

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Speaker 1: day rather or appealed right away. We are now twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours later. How do you pull back from that

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Speaker 1: at this point? You can't. You can't. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: what does this say about the c d C in

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Speaker 1: the future, How does it combat the spread of disease

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Speaker 1: when they're legitimacy hasn't been under mind blight this, and

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Speaker 1: the White House isn't standing up for them, Rick, what's

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Speaker 1: the White House concerned about other than you know, people

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Speaker 1: getting sick. I realized this is what it comes down

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Speaker 1: to with COVID. But you know, the idea that they

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Speaker 1: somehow turned away from science. My god, the chaos that

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Speaker 1: will ensue. You're gonna have forget what flight attendants have

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Speaker 1: gone through until now. This is gonna be like a

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Speaker 1: war in the skies with half the plane refusing to

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Speaker 1: wear a mask. Yeah. Look, I mean this, This judge

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Speaker 1: has really scrambled the eggs for this administration, and only

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Speaker 1: two weeks to go before this, this mandate was going

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Speaker 1: to expire anyway, and so it does really catch the

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Speaker 1: administration with their pants down. And and I think Jenie's

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Speaker 1: right is that they've been really slow to respond. Look

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Speaker 1: how quickly the airlines responded, Okay, no mask for a

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Speaker 1: plane's taken off within an extens You've got all the

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Speaker 1: major barriers have respond and track they're done. Uber is done.

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Speaker 1: I realized the m t A is not in this case, Genie,

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Speaker 1: But Rick, I mean this could be this could be

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Speaker 1: a major security problem trying to put the toothpaste back

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Speaker 1: in the tube. Yeah, I don't think it's I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say it's a security problem. Nobody would be in their

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Speaker 1: right mind if at this point, with with the federal

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Speaker 1: case that's already been decided in CDC preparing to probably

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Speaker 1: lift this mandate, nobody's gonna break their pick on a

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Speaker 1: mass mandate at this point, right, how'd you like to

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Speaker 1: be the last guy to serve time at opposing a

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Speaker 1: mass mandate? That's true, and so so I think this

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Speaker 1: is what the White House is grappling with guarantee. Their

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Speaker 1: phone calls are into the CDC saying, look, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna extend this deadline past May three, you need to

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Speaker 1: tell us now because we can't be caught with appealing

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Speaker 1: this thing in a week later, you guys withdrawing the mandate.

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Speaker 1: And so this administration, this is exactly what happened with

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Speaker 1: Title pretty two. The CDC pulled that thing from them,

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Speaker 1: they spent a couple of days trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: what to say about it, and at this point they've

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Speaker 1: done nothing to try and improve that situation. And this

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Speaker 1: is the same thing. I mean this administration is letting

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Speaker 1: its government run the business of government, and they are

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Speaker 1: seemingly the victims more than the managers. Secretary of Sarah

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Speaker 1: was at a news conference and we made that remark

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Speaker 1: today urging people to continue to wear their masks nonetheless.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the kind of confusion we're talking about here.

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Speaker 1: I would not want to have to be the person

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Speaker 1: leading that hearing. I wouldn't want to have to be

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Speaker 1: the airline either, having to turn on a dime after

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Speaker 1: telling everybody that the age of masks is over. I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you both on the panel here about

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Speaker 1: article three of the fourteenth Amendments. I know that this

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Speaker 1: may not be typical conversation, but it's in the news

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Speaker 1: as Bloomberg Law carries the byline. Taylor Green insurrection challenge

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Speaker 1: cleared by US judge pretty remarkable and could be precedent

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Speaker 1: setting for others who have faced similar accusations. This is

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Speaker 1: a voter challenge to none other than Representative Marjorie Taylor Green.

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Speaker 1: Her eligibility to seek reelection can continue, according to a

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Speaker 1: federal judge, potentially giving Georgia state officials access to information

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Speaker 1: and testimony about the January six attack on the Capitol

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Speaker 1: that has eluded members of the panel investigating it. Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Green, reacting to this, talk to Tucker Cralson on

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Speaker 1: Fox about it last night. Here she is, I have

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Speaker 1: to protect myself. I have to go to court on

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Speaker 1: Friday and actually be questioned about something I've never been

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Speaker 1: charged with and something I was completely against. And so

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Speaker 1: this is how far it's going. These leftists, these progressives

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Speaker 1: who would rather want they'd rather have the judge or

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Speaker 1: bureaucrats making decisions instead of voters. They want to hand

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Speaker 1: that over to them and not let the people in

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Speaker 1: my district to even have the right to vote for me.

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Speaker 1: But no, the Republican Party needs to fight harder, Tucker,

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you the judge denied Green's request for

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Speaker 1: an injunction here would have blocked the judge from holding

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Speaker 1: a hearing to determine whether Green took part in an insurrection. UH.

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Speaker 1: Article three of the fourteenth Amendment bars from any office

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Speaker 1: any official who swore to protect the Constitution and then

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Speaker 1: engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same. Rick Davis,

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Speaker 1: could this be precedent setting for others who have been

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Speaker 1: wrapped up who have been called to testify and accused

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Speaker 1: of similar offenses by members and specifically the Gen six Committee.

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Speaker 1: Sure watch this space when the January six Committee reports out,

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Speaker 1: uh their their findings, which should come soon. Uh, it

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Speaker 1: might raise the question on a number of existing members

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Speaker 1: of Congress who supported an insurrection. And if according to

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Speaker 1: as you say, Article three of the fourteenth Amendment to

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Speaker 1: the Constitution, UH, if you support an insurrection, you you

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Speaker 1: can't be a member of Congress. And and that's the

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Speaker 1: problem that Marjorie her Green finds. You know, she's dug

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Speaker 1: herself a hole for the last you know, year, talking

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Speaker 1: about this and defending it as a peaceful protests and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But the bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: you know, she could wind up off the ballot. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to make a difference in whether a Republican

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Speaker 1: represents that district. It's a seventy Republican district. But but

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Speaker 1: she can fall prey to an existing statute in the

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Speaker 1: Constitution that that from what I can tell, she's done

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Speaker 1: everything she could to try and violate. Of course, she's

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Speaker 1: been scripts of her committee assignments. Genie. This provision has

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Speaker 1: not been invoked since nine I read on the Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Congress that you refuse to see the member convicted of

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Speaker 1: spying for Germany. This is the level uh that we're

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Speaker 1: talking here. Could this end careers? It absolutely can? And

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Speaker 1: and you know, hallelujah for the resurrection of the Clause

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Speaker 1: three of the fourteenth Amendment that nobody talks about until

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Speaker 1: who knew. Um, you know, let's just reflect the one

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Speaker 1: what she had to a last night on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: She's talking about voters, you know, not being able to vote. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's not let's not forget. What happened was voters who

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Speaker 1: are eligible to vote in Georgia are the ones who

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Speaker 1: challenged They raised the challenge. That's what Georgia law allows,

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Speaker 1: and they are allowed to do this. And what she

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Speaker 1: was asking for is relief so she doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: go to court on Friday. I'm curious to see what

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Speaker 1: they find on Friday, whether they find indeed that this

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Speaker 1: is something that has you know, the meat that would

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Speaker 1: require moving forward on this. They may not, but it's

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Speaker 1: absolutely the voters of Georgia who have been heard on

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Speaker 1: this who are challenging her ability to hold this seat.

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Speaker 1: So that is I think the judge was right on

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Speaker 1: that score, they have the right to be heard. She

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Speaker 1: couldn't prove this was such a burden on her that

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Speaker 1: she couldn't show up on Friday. Yeah, so Friday is

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Speaker 1: the hearing, Rick, This is the This is the way

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Speaker 1: with politics cuts both ways. If you want to be

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Speaker 1: a political celebrity, in this case, an infamous, I guess

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Speaker 1: I don't have political villain to some but but buy

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Speaker 1: a household name like like Marjorie Taylor Green to the

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Speaker 1: point where people call you MTG. You have a hearing

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Speaker 1: on a Friday like that, it's gonna make news. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it's exactly what you describe. I mean, she thinks

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Speaker 1: of herself as a celebrity more than I think a

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Speaker 1: member of Congress, and and so the things she does

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Speaker 1: are to try and make press and got an impact

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Speaker 1: in the media, and and she's done so many outrageous things.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't even have any support within her own caucus

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Speaker 1: in the House of Representatives. So there won't be a

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Speaker 1: there won't be a tear shed on Friday if she

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Speaker 1: winds up getting put through the grinder on this. But look,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big deal to take somebody off

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Speaker 1: a ballot. It would be a long shot to think

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Speaker 1: that this is gonna work for her, But at least

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Speaker 1: she's being held accountable for some of the things she

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Speaker 1: said and done since the January six attack on the Capitol,

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Speaker 1: and it will generate some journalism here. Is it a

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Speaker 1: long shot have her off the ballot, Genie, I do

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Speaker 1: think it's a long shot, and you know, quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: I would rather have it go through Congress. One of

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Speaker 1: Congress's powers, they control their members. They could take her

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