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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast loves the Counting Crows. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by New Era. My name is Dan Hansis and

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Speaker 1: I am joined the room filled with heroes. Yes, build,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey?

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Speaker 1: D two things there and I'll even though Greg welcome

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Speaker 1: back from vacation. I'll speak on behalf of Greg real quickly.

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Speaker 1: Not a fan of the count fan of West, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily a fan of uh count of Crows either. I

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Speaker 1: do like the Counting crews okay, but I think it

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Speaker 1: back it's sort of like best left in its era. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. What I was really

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Speaker 1: waiting for Mark was kind of like a ellipses of

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Speaker 1: sorts and then Money to drop some type of hammer.

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Speaker 1: But he does not editorialize with those openings. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know that Matt money Smith is not a Counting

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Speaker 1: Crows fan on any level either, but at this this show,

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Speaker 1: within the show, you and I have been to multiple

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Speaker 1: live Counting Crows concerts. I don't think you could drag

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Speaker 1: greg Or West to Accounting Crows concerple we West won't

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Speaker 1: go to any concert. We know that we're starting right there.

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Speaker 1: They were like one of those bands that like my

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Speaker 1: brother's friends really liked at the time, to not that

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Speaker 1: they were too, and it's just like that's your stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's another like sign I think of that we've been

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Speaker 1: doing this show perhaps too long. Is that I feel

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Speaker 1: like we've had this exact conversation right down to his

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Speaker 1: brother's friends. Yes, we're all back together for the first

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Speaker 1: time and probably what almost a month, four weeks or so,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been quite a bit. Greg. You were

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Speaker 1: back east. How was your vacation? People want to know.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic, Yeah, Massachusetts and then back here it's pretty

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Speaker 1: low key. Um. And this is our final week of

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Speaker 1: two shows in the week, So fans, you die hards

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Speaker 1: out there who we appreciate, we'll be happy to know

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Speaker 1: that we'll be going back to three shows. Next week

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Speaker 1: is training camps, uh kick off. And I'm just hint

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Speaker 1: perhaps more. That's all I say right now. I can't

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Speaker 1: say anything else. I thought a lot of plans been

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Speaker 1: cooking up while I was going, and I've heard about

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Speaker 1: so you know, something to look forward to, and and

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's a wrap on vacations, by the way,

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Speaker 1: so we're all back. We're all back three shows from

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Speaker 1: now until the end of time. In fact, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say Mark, there was kind of a running gag,

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Speaker 1: but it was also very true last season or four

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Speaker 1: months ago, where you're saying, oh, the season doesn't really

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Speaker 1: end at the end of football season. There's our season continues.

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Speaker 1: Is today or maybe Monday, a week from today the

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Speaker 1: start of the new season. I think it's I think

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Speaker 1: it's next week, but it's all for us because we're

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Speaker 1: all back and we're all locked in now for months

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Speaker 1: and months and months and many more months. I think

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Speaker 1: today fields, I think it's next It's like eight twenty

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Speaker 1: eight weeks season starting next week. Uh, so the grind

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Speaker 1: is on. Let's grind thirty, let's roll. I'm ready to grind. Um. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is yeah, and we can't really get into it

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Speaker 1: right now, but this is gonna be maybe the biggest

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Speaker 1: season ever for the Around the NFL podcast. I say

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Speaker 1: that with great excitement. Excitement. We're excited to share everything

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Speaker 1: that's coming up, but not yet for now though, Um,

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Speaker 1: we're going to dig into what's happening in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: A decent amount of stuff to talk about considering where

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Speaker 1: we are in the calendar. Whenever there's a golf pro

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Speaker 1: am of any kind, uh, and especially the Lake Tahoe

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Speaker 1: some uh some some things coming out of there, including

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Speaker 1: a big win for Tony Romo, whoa Romo is pretty

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Speaker 1: a pretty nice overall life right now. Yeah, things are

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Speaker 1: going nice for Tony. Ben McAdoo speaks. A prominent former

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Speaker 1: rushing champion retires. Uh. And then uh, we will talk

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Speaker 1: some running backs because Greg hits the ground running up

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Speaker 1: on the NFL dot com with a piece of breaking

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Speaker 1: down all the projected starting running backs where he puts

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Speaker 1: So it was just a wee people just coming by

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Speaker 1: you say, oh, here, shoot from ten feet in front

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Speaker 1: of the goal and just take a freebie. West's animosity

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Speaker 1: the big running back news that, of course, uh the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers and star half act Levan Bell unable to

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Speaker 1: Bell will play on a fourteen point five million dollar

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Speaker 1: anybody else tracking football. Um the final sentence from Rappaport

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Speaker 1: so there you go. Of course, Bell greg came very

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Speaker 1: The tone, though, I'm noticing, is different this year. As

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Speaker 1: Bell says in his his tweet that I'm sorry we

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Speaker 1: let you down, but two thousand and eighteen will be

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Speaker 1: He takes some time to get into synchronicity with with

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Speaker 1: wasn't there. So if he skips training camp again, is

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll come a little earlier. It came September one

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Speaker 1: five catches, six fifty five years. The reason his value

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Speaker 1: could be higher, Mark, though, is you'd have thirty one

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Speaker 1: not probably not, but you know what I mean. Other players,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have averaged more points without him in the

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Speaker 1: of Arizona. Patrick Peterson David Johnson has said that the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals we have the best offense in the league if

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford stays healthy. Christian Kirk the rookie wide receiver, said,

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Speaker 1: based on what the coaches have said throughout the offseason,

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford is going to be the starter. Steve Wilkes

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Speaker 1: told Adam Schefter a few months ago that they brought

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Speaker 1: in and Bradford specifically to direct the offense because quote,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the best in the business right now.

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Speaker 1: To me, everything coming out out of Arizona says this

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Speaker 1: is Bradford's job, not Rosen. He's he's starting Week one

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Speaker 1: if he's healthy, because he's just gonna know more and

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Speaker 1: know how to play quarterback at the NFL level more

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Speaker 1: than Josh Rosen. But him being healthy is is not

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Speaker 1: a complete certainly. I mean. Peterson's other point in this

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Speaker 1: interview was because I think we've been down on the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: We've been down on the Cardinals all off season. Could

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Speaker 1: surprise he had a pretty good offseat. You talked about

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Speaker 1: how how unlike their lack of health over as a

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Speaker 1: team over the last couple of seasons. Think about what

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Speaker 1: we thought of this team in December compared to where

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Speaker 1: they are now, Like it could have been a full

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Speaker 1: blown tear it down, rebuild it. Two thousand and eighteen

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Speaker 1: is going to be a year that nobody's gonna even

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Speaker 1: want to watch the Cardinals. And now, like, what did

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Speaker 1: surprise you? If they go nine and seven, ten and six,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me? No, what was that a gang? You're

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Speaker 1: going nine and seven, ten and six, FATA company. You're

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Speaker 1: asking pretty good because I was in the middle of

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Speaker 1: like handing Greg a piece of paper, and the pregnant

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Speaker 1: pause in the podcast was because I was reading something

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Speaker 1: Dan just handed. I think it could have been that,

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Speaker 1: but it also could have been like, I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure I pronounce this correctly. Sometimes that pregnant pauses

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Speaker 1: are a result of that. You're right, sometimes they are. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I liked it. Moving on, Oh yeah, oh yeah, Roquan Smith, Greg,

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Speaker 1: help me out with the pronunciation in the name during

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Speaker 1: that pregnant pause. So we take you behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: It's not just thought, let's just like roll through the news,

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Speaker 1: let's knock out another pod like our scast. No, that

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Speaker 1: is how the sausage gets made. How else with one pronounced?

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Speaker 1: But it's not that's how you would pronounce it. Most

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Speaker 1: people would not go I thought I had heard at

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Speaker 1: some point, and I'm not. I'm not. I don't follow

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Speaker 1: that the Dolphins linebacker who got hurt last year. There

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Speaker 1: is a raa Kwon McMillan here. Alright, I see why

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Speaker 1: you can confuse. Also the guy from Yes, Yeah, that guy,

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Speaker 1: he was in my head. That's right, Kuan, Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well you've built a steady mounting. Yeah. Anyway, Uh, what

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Speaker 1: does it again, ro Quan Smith? Of course the first

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Speaker 1: round pick. People are very high in this Love Love

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Speaker 1: quon on the cover of Bulletproof. While it's a ghost

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Speaker 1: face Kill album, just one of the all time album covers.

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Speaker 1: People check it out. Is this the Greg Likes rap interlude? Today?

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Speaker 1: I forgot to not coming up again? Maybe ever. I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the Greg Legs rap interludes. I missed them and

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Speaker 1: I'm happy they're back. Um anyway, ro Quan Smith. Uh,

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Speaker 1: rap sheet reports the first round linebacker is not what

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Speaker 1: the team is rookies report. Smith currently hasn't signed his

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Speaker 1: rookie contracts, staying away until a deal gets done. The

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Speaker 1: Bears are playing in that Hall of Fame game, which

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Speaker 1: is coming up in a couple of weeks. Uh So

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Speaker 1: the rookies reported to training camp today. Veterans not until Thursday.

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Speaker 1: You know, I I'm surprised this is still a thing

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Speaker 1: that's happening. I don't think Donald's deal got done yet either.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were out of this, but every once

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Speaker 1: in a while something pops up. It's July sixteenth. I

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Speaker 1: think that we should like check back in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks and then show concern at them come come

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Speaker 1: back to us with rookies reporting a week earlier like

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Speaker 1: that the Ravens rookies reported last week because that was

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Speaker 1: the earliest possible day. I'm not into the rookies reporting earlier.

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Speaker 1: That was give everyone, give everyone more time off. It's

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Speaker 1: like a false alarm where we start, Wait, should we

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Speaker 1: start covering this on inside training camp? The rookies are

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Speaker 1: reported now look unnecessary at best. Let them let the

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Speaker 1: record state. I am extremely nervous about the situation and

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Speaker 1: I am tracking it very closely. UH. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: another UH second round pick bust by the Jets. But

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Speaker 1: this one's not named Christian Hackenburg. This is Devon Smith,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver was taken in round two of the draft. UH.

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Speaker 1: ESPN reported on Monday that he's been cut loose. This

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Speaker 1: Devin Smith is supposed to be a guy that's supposed

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Speaker 1: to take the top off defenses, but he kept on

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Speaker 1: ripping up his knee, could not stay on the field,

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Speaker 1: ended up with only ten catches for a hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty five yards and one touchdown in three seasons. So

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Speaker 1: and if you're if you're tracking at home, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because the Jets have done very poor work taking second

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Speaker 1: making hey out of second round picks. David Harrison round

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Speaker 1: two of two thousand seven, very nice pick, had a

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Speaker 1: really nice career. But since then Vladukas, Stephen Hill, Gino Smith,

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Speaker 1: Jason Morrow, Devin Smith, it was just cut and hack,

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Speaker 1: So not a great track record. And when you're building

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Speaker 1: a roster, as we know, it's not just about the

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Speaker 1: first round pick. You gotta hit on those early draft picks.

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Speaker 1: And the Jets, oh, by the way, haven't been to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs in about six or seven years. Devin Smith,

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Speaker 1: for me, will always be a reminder of why fan

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Speaker 1: is short for fanatic, a particularly zealous Jets fan and

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Speaker 1: in Smith rookie year, berated me on Twitter for not

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Speaker 1: acknowledging that he is that he is just as talented

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Speaker 1: as Odell Beckham, one of the most talented players ever

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Speaker 1: to set foot on a football field, Devin Smith is

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Speaker 1: just as talented as him, and I'm wrong for not

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Speaker 1: admitting it or acknowledging. So that person got the Look,

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Speaker 1: this is why blocks are necessary. I think you got

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Speaker 1: the last word on there. You lost if you need,

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Speaker 1: if you want to have discourse on your Twitter account,

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Speaker 1: you have to exclude all the people who just can't

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Speaker 1: don't have an eye at all for football. Just get

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Speaker 1: him out of it. The people who say Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: is overrated. Block him in faith in fairness to this guy,

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Speaker 1: I went back to look at the Rotor World post

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Speaker 1: when he got drafted at sometimes do that just feel

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Speaker 1: the field was at the time. Mike Mayock, as this

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Speaker 1: draft went on, said, Devin Smith tracks the deep ball

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Speaker 1: as well as any college wide out I've seen in years.

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Speaker 1: Some bad luck here. Well, he entered He entered the

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Speaker 1: league as a guy who would be a deep deep

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Speaker 1: asps not Odell Beckham. I just want to get that, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: But we have no idea also in you know, just

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Speaker 1: in general, that's one person, like an entire world that

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Speaker 1: thinks that. Oh there were a lot of Jets fans

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Speaker 1: that thought he was like not not not Odell, but

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Speaker 1: they thought he was going to be a great wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: This is not on Mike mccagney because it's an injury situation.

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Speaker 1: But Dan, I get that you were massively in love

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Speaker 1: with Sam Donald and he felt to them and they

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Speaker 1: took him and that could be great. But are you

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Speaker 1: concerned at all about mccagneen's track record drafting players? Of course, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he didn't take I don't. Did mccagnet take Devin Smith?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he did, He wasn't there yet.

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Speaker 1: Was that the glacier, the iceberg, the glacier? It would

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Speaker 1: have been. But are you concerned about the glaciers ability

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Speaker 1: to pick players? Then? I mean I did, I really did.

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Speaker 1: I did not like the Glaciers. But uh, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. Mark, Yeah, they need a good rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback can buy you many more years. We'll say, all right,

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Speaker 1: we've reached peak off season. We finally made it here.

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Speaker 1: There's always one story every year that runs on our

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Speaker 1: website that that you see it. You see the headline

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Speaker 1: and you say to yourself, oh yeah, peak. It always

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Speaker 1: happens right around this time too. You ready headline and

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Speaker 1: God bless Kevin Patrack who wrote that wrote this up

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Speaker 1: because hell, what else you gonna do right now? On

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Speaker 1: his first day back, I believe from his honey honeymoon

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Speaker 1: and a beautiful trip around the world. Congratulations to Kevin

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Speaker 1: pat for a week. But okay, but I mean, by

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Speaker 1: the way, this is the end of the honeymoon in

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Speaker 1: this article before we dip into that that is a

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Speaker 1: mi procagonal draft pick. It was the pressure is mounting.

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Speaker 1: It is that he's in trouble. All right here, we

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Speaker 1: are you ready? Thank you for the correction. Mark Todd Gurley.

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Speaker 1: Colin Lebron referring to the basketball star Lebron James coming

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Speaker 1: to l A referring to Lebron signing with Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: Lakers is quote motivation for Rams. Oh my god, hit

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Speaker 1: hit the alert. We've reached peak off season. Todd Gurley,

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Speaker 1: how is this motivations? You're probably curious, aren't you? How

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Speaker 1: the hell is this motivation for the Brown Okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: here's a curly told the La Times while at a

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Speaker 1: youth football camp at Santa Monica College. You know greatness

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Speaker 1: is coming and you want to be part of that.

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Speaker 1: It's like motivation. It kind of makes you want to

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Speaker 1: work harder and get to that point to where he is.

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Speaker 1: So what Todd Gurley saying Chris Westling is that the Rams,

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Speaker 1: despite making the playoffs and having a fine season last year,

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Speaker 1: despite everything that's built up around them. Uh and and

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Speaker 1: everyone's saying this could be a super bowliear No, No, no,

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Speaker 1: the real motivation and part of the motivation to be

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Speaker 1: successful this year is that Lebron James is now playing

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Speaker 1: basketball in the same city. Here's my take on this.

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley's comments are irrelevant. The story is irrelevant. The

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Speaker 1: only reason this gets written is so you can run

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Speaker 1: the headline. The story is totally irrelevant. You just want

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Speaker 1: to run the headline that has Lebron l A and

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Speaker 1: Rams and motivation in the title, and it probably people

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Speaker 1: probably read it. Well, of course they read it. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's certainly worked in Cleveland. Lebron brings a title

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Speaker 1: to that city in the Browns systematically go one in

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Speaker 1: thirty one. I mean, what is the If that's where

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Speaker 1: your motivation is coming from, you better find a better

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Speaker 1: In fairness, we're not impugning Todd Gurley at all. Hearing

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Speaker 1: he's donating his time to kids and was clearly asked

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Speaker 1: a question about the Christians, and then he has to

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Speaker 1: then he has to answer it. Right, it's the question

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Speaker 1: not impugning Kevin Patra, who is m v P and

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Speaker 1: works his butt off, and him writing stories like this

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Speaker 1: allows us to not have to write for not imputing

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Speaker 1: Santa Monica College. I mean everyone in this immunity tool there.

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Speaker 1: I was there a couple of times. May I ask

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Speaker 1: who is being impuned? Nobody? Everyone's great. Um, I would

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Speaker 1: like to see metrics in this building that would allow

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Speaker 1: us to say, whenever we encounter an article, no, that's

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Speaker 1: too much headline versus story. Well, I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: more story the editors. The editor is making an us

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Speaker 1: to run this story. So ultimately, David and then I

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Speaker 1: think was on vacation. Well, okay, he's in charge of

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Speaker 1: the aggregation machine. A bit impugned here as well? Yes,

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Speaker 1: absolutely we I think aggregation came along Tim fifteen years

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Speaker 1: ago in this industry. As far as Twitter and RSS,

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Speaker 1: all that should be out the window. Now let's go

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Speaker 1: to a new form of news writing. Wow, I'd say this.

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Speaker 1: David really, who is my supervisor, was on vacation, clean

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Speaker 1: an excellent job every single day from the minuty checks

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Speaker 1: into the minute he goes home. Update on the best

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Speaker 1: man Grace. Look, we're gonna keep doing this, but he

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Speaker 1: really put himself behind the eight ball for not the

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Speaker 1: first time in his adult life wearing a romper and

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Speaker 1: putting on social media. My best man is not going

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Speaker 1: to be a romper clad man. Dave, Dave, the mistakes

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Speaker 1: he makes just driving me nuts. All right, maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: and he was gonna accomplish very little, and that tomorrow

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Speaker 1: he'd start taking in people assignment that work above Dave

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Speaker 1: as well. Before we let out some of this information,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I often the same thing, so I find

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a fair strang too. They don't listen, we'recovered,

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Speaker 1: We're covered. Also in the news, Aaron Rodgers add him

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Speaker 1: to the club of famous quarterbacks who would like to

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Speaker 1: play to forty. But Rogers a little different in terms

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Speaker 1: of whether this is something worth talking about, because he

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Speaker 1: expands on a little bit in an interesting way. This

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Speaker 1: uh to Peter King and the King's debut Calm for

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Speaker 1: Football Morning in America with editor Dom Banas, formerly of

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Speaker 1: Yeah and formerly of m MQB. It's like Pete Peter's

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Speaker 1: guy travels with him everywhere along bond veto. I believe

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Speaker 1: you nailed that that pronounce association. Here's what Rogers had

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Speaker 1: to say. I'd love to play to forty. I just

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00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: think that number means a lot. Obviously, Tom is kind

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Speaker 1: of rewriting the book. Brett had a good season when

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Speaker 1: he turned forty. My goal is to be able to

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Speaker 1: move like I do or close to how I do,

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Speaker 1: and still be able to do that at forty, just

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Speaker 1: because nobody's ever been able to do that and still

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Speaker 1: move around the same. Steve Young's career was cut short

667
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Speaker 1: in his late thirties. John the same. He didn't really

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Speaker 1: move the same as when he was younger, So to

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Speaker 1: be able to move the same way at thirty eight

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Speaker 1: forty would be cool. That's my aim. My question of

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Speaker 1: Greg would be um not many The reason why you

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Speaker 1: don't see that and these guys trained, and they take

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Speaker 1: care of themselves better than ever. The reason you don't

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Speaker 1: see that is when these guys get into their late thirties,

675
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Speaker 1: their bodies get ky. It just the clock runs and

676
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: they get beat up and they get injured. Uh. I

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00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: wonder if he's not moving as well, if he'll change

678
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: his mindset and be like well, as long as I

679
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Speaker 1: could still sling it and read defenses. Because what he's

680
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Speaker 1: saying right now, we'll see if his body cooperates with that.

681
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Speaker 1: The hope would be like to like Tom Brady, that

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Speaker 1: he is moving as well or better. You know, at

683
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Speaker 1: that age it's a it's a new error. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is moving better now than he than he was.

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Speaker 1: That was never his game, but just the way he

686
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Speaker 1: can slide and move his body in the pocket, it

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Speaker 1: has been better at it was. Rogers is a different

688
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Speaker 1: type of it is. But I guess I'm saying maybe

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Speaker 1: the technology and that all the work that goes into

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Speaker 1: it and the health, Uh, maybe Rogers can take all

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Speaker 1: those lessons and keep his game. He hasn't gone on

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Speaker 1: Scade though he suffered, you know, a series of injuries

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Speaker 1: in his career, and it's why he is right about

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Speaker 1: far that in two thousand and nine season age forty

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Speaker 1: for Brett farve I I understand that the mid nineties

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Speaker 1: action was peake Brett farve but like, I honestly think

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Speaker 1: that two thousand nine and was one of the most fanned,

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Speaker 1: like amazing quarterback seasons I've ever watched, But then a

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Speaker 1: calendar year later he was an ultra disaster also far

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Speaker 1: I feel like people of our generation mark we know

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Speaker 1: that he was not youtwo. Well, there is a divide

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00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: on Brett Farvee's career where people about Dan and Gregg's

703
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: generation feel like he's overrated a different generation now. I

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00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: love it. People your age feel like he's overrated. They

705
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: talked about him too much during games. They praised him

706
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: too much. He was a pocket quarter No, he was

707
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: an improvisational wizard and one of the best mobile quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in history. I mean we were in high school when

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Speaker 1: he won the three straight m v ps. That was

710
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: that was really what you're talking about, which has never

711
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Speaker 1: been done before. Maybe it'll never be quite liked Brett

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Speaker 1: Farves game. I feel like I've never heard complaints about

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Speaker 1: him until people your age started complaining, like we hear

714
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: too much about people got sick of the coverage. He

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Speaker 1: was talked about in reverential tones because he was that

716
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Speaker 1: damn good. But but Mark is right that season he

717
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: came back when he destroyed the Packers two straight times. Uh,

718
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Speaker 1: one of which I believe was on Monday Night football.

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Speaker 1: It felt like a holiday and like I've never don't

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Speaker 1: I didn't have that much invested in him, but it

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Speaker 1: was just like awesome to see it was uh And

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Speaker 1: finally in the news. Uh. This comes from Joe Thisman,

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Speaker 1: a former uh quarterback for the Redskins. I believe it's

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. He's in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: of awful announcment. Okay, well, he's a very well known

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning quarterback. And Joe had this tweet over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. You can get a little music to a

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Speaker 1: company of this, lindsay, pit Bull is a concert you

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Speaker 1: can't miss. So Mark, Joe Thisman, former Redskins quarterback, defines

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Speaker 1: pit Bull as a must see live experience. As someone

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Speaker 1: who on occasion we'll tweet something out when the bloodstream

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Speaker 1: may have some alcohol in it and other things, I

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Speaker 1: feel like this might have been that kind of a

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Speaker 1: tweet from Joe tips, not accusing him of that just

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Speaker 1: seems like did we check the time step? It also

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Speaker 1: just uses you the letter instead of y oh. It's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a messy tweet all around. I'm familiar

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Speaker 1: with pit Bull only because before cancer, several people had

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Speaker 1: tweeted me saying I looked like this character. No you

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Speaker 1: do um? So I asked Kesha to play a few

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Speaker 1: songs for me so I would know what to say.

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Speaker 1: And all I can say is music sounds like the

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Speaker 1: background to an awful bos Lorman movie. Well let's listen

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Speaker 1: to what pit Bull kind of sounds like? The cowboys? Well, no,

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00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: that's not actually who wrote these lyrics. This is one

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Speaker 1: of the cases where the house music basically the same.

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Speaker 1: It's it is similar to uh Lindsay alerted me today,

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Speaker 1: which I was kind of fascinated by. That actually in

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Speaker 1: our in our music library that we could use although

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Speaker 1: the fact that we're talking about pit Bull fair use covers.

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00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: We could play a little pit Bull, but the powers

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Speaker 1: that be in this building have foolishly decided that we

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Speaker 1: cannot do anything like that, So we have to do

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Speaker 1: this music. But when you do a search uses a defense,

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Speaker 1: it's not a policy. I don't want to hear the

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Speaker 1: the that's that's not from Lindsay, that's from upstairs. Um.

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00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: But if you search in our system, you could search

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Speaker 1: an artist to hear fake artist music from that artist.

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Speaker 1: It kind of makes my head spin a little bit. Wait,

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Speaker 1: Dave author have the fake So if you do a

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Speaker 1: search for pit Bull, yeah, it will bring up what lindsay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll like music and it's just interesting to me. And

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Speaker 1: one other note, if you're if you're broadcast, if your

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Speaker 1: podcast is completely clamped down by corporate rules, here's an

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Speaker 1: out for you, right right. Pitpo had a great run though.

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Speaker 1: I think there's about a four year run where he

767
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: actually closed out every awards show. It's just like all right,

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Speaker 1: and to take us out pit Ball and it's like

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Speaker 1: just two things. Pit Bull has never said no to anything,

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Speaker 1: and that that could be make you successful and busy too.

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Speaker 1: I actually can say that I saw pit Bull this

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Speaker 1: year at a Super Bowl party, and while I won't

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Speaker 1: go as far as Joe Eisman, that he's a like

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Speaker 1: a musty experience for a live music fan. Yeah, he

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00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: puts on a night show. Yeah, he had to take

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00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: several songs that I was like, Oh, that's a big hit.

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Speaker 1: You're like, if you had to choose between him and

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Speaker 1: Sting and Shaggy playing together before, you might have to

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Speaker 1: go pitball. They gotta go. Pit Bull got his party music.

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Speaker 1: That was That was a bit of a struggle. That's

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Speaker 1: back to the show. Barry Sanders turned fifty. How about that?

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Speaker 1: How about the passage of time? Speaking of uh M

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Speaker 1: vps in the nineties, he split one of those awards

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Speaker 1: with Brett for Barry Sanders one of the great running

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Speaker 1: the point. We're gonna talk about running backs in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. Uh, and Greg, great timing because you

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Speaker 1: nfl dot com ranking the top thirty two. So let's

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Speaker 1: kind of go through Greg's list and then uh talk

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Speaker 1: about maybe some guys that aren't on the list, or

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Speaker 1: maybe Greg, you should have put them high or lower.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I want to start with number one. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we just start right there? Because Uh, I

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Speaker 1: guess I was a little bit surprised. Ezekiel Elliott your

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Speaker 1: number one running back? What is your thinking behind that?

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Speaker 1: It was a last minute switch, but the ranking was

835
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Speaker 1: supposed to be who I'd want this season? And so

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Speaker 1: between Zeke Levan, Bell, Todd Gurley, and David Johnson. I

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00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 1: don't think there's a ton of room between those those four.

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Speaker 1: I think Bell, for what he's done, had the respect.

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Speaker 1: He was sort of in my top two. But I

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Speaker 1: think Zeke has just shown he's maybe the best natural

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00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: runner there is in football already, and he's only twenty

842
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: two years old, and you don't get the sense that

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00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: he's really hit his top gear in between that and

844
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line helps, but this is supposed to really

845
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Speaker 1: just be the running back. I think he is ready

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Speaker 1: to go up another level. And his power, I guess,

847
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Speaker 1: is what kind of put him over the top over Bell,

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Speaker 1: because he can still catch it. They're all great on

849
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: all downs, but his power and his just natural running

850
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: ability is unique. So he's my number one. I like

851
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: this call um he is the best pure runner in league.

852
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: I I totally agree with it, and Levon Bell would

853
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: have been the safe pick, but I think it's a

854
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: little inspired to put Zeke in there. I like it.

855
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: I also think when you do these lists, and invariably

856
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna retweet that they're gonna put this out in

857
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: multiple ways, and they don't. They won't include this line.

858
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: These are the players I most wanted my roster for

859
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: this season. That that's the key to why why. I

860
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: think that Also, even we talked up with Bell when

861
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: he hits the ground in September or something, is Zukul

862
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: Elliott is a massive after what was a troubling season

863
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: fom last year, we're gonna get the best version of

864
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: him exactly. I think also he's coming he's gonna be fresh,

865
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: But I also think he's coming into a season where

866
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: we are going to get his best. We're gonna get

867
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: his most motivated Ezekiel Elliott. He showed up the camp

868
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: out of shape the last couple of years, are not

869
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: in great shape, and still led the league in rushing

870
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: yards per game, right, and he still played great. I'm

871
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: just I just think between him getting a little more

872
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: mature and the heat that was on him last year,

873
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be even better. And even if he's not,

874
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: he should still be at the very top of this list.

875
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's how I mean. If he stays healthy,

876
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: there's almost no way he doesn't finish with over like

877
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: six hundred yards. Yeah total, He's that type of star. Um.

878
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, did you do this exercise last year? No?

879
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: Who would you have had going into last year is

880
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: number one Bell, So he's still a number two. The

881
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: guy that I know probably moved up because, uh, he

882
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: had a tremendous season last year. Todd Gurley. Uh is

883
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: he a guy you were attempted to even put a

884
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: little higher than three? No, just because of the other

885
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: the other two. If we had done this a year ago,

886
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: I would have been so stupid, because I was talking

887
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: about on this podcast, like I'm not sure if I

888
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: who do we like better, Melvin Gordon or Todd Gurley?

889
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, I mean that Todd Gurley's another great example

890
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: of what Chris said of of trying to separate player

891
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: from the team around him, And it was exact. It

892
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: was difficult two years ago, and I think he bore

893
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: some of the blame of of his two thousand and

894
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: sixteen season, but you saw last year what what he

895
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: can do. Players can fall into bad habits when it

896
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: was surrounded by poor talent and poor coaching. But David

897
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: Johnson to me at number four, this is this is

898
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: kind of why if you had tears, I think it

899
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: would be fair to say David Johnson is closer to

900
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: number one than number five. Yeah, when I went to

901
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: I went to West for some feedback, and he he

902
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: didn't like see and his boy David Johnson at number

903
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: who I am a scientist. You were on vacation. In fairness,

904
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: it was the like literally vacation the last couple of days.

905
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: One thing you did miss while you're on vacation was

906
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: that West had a little and uh insinuated or outright

907
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: stated that it was your call, Greg, to keep Mark

908
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: out of the lab. Yeah, which is troubling. I clarified

909
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: that I was purely joking, right, but not the way.

910
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm not in the lab, so something's happening. Yeah.

911
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: So now, Greg, I think it's only fair that the

912
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: floor is yours to respond to that allegation. West says

913
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: it says it was a joke, But what's his face

914
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: after he made the comment was one of those faces

915
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: where you said something that you knew you shouldn't have

916
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: said and then you have to quickly quickly spin That's

917
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: how I read that. I think you read that correctly

918
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: on the show. So Greg, you could clarify the situation

919
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: well as as a as a scientist and as all

920
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: great scientists know what we're really after and I believe

921
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: it was best said by the doctor in the movie Concussion.

922
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: We want the truth. We just we're looking for the truth.

923
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: I want Cessler down No, no, no, want Cessler down there.

924
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: We're just trying to look for the right answers. We're

925
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: searching for knowledge and Mark can help us. Did you

926
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: just like name drop? Uh? Concussion? And then do was

927
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: that Will Smith's accent and concussion? I don't know. It's

928
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: been a while, it's been forever. So I'm in now.

929
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: You can't hold that over. He's in the lab. You

930
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: can come down. See they kind of hangover. I'm not

931
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna We're not going to be exclusion. There has been

932
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: cheering loudly about this decision. Oh no, I encourage you

933
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: to come. And being a scientist is all about peer review.

934
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: You can put out your work and then we review

935
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: it for you. I think I think everyone it's what

936
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: you put into it is what you're going to get

937
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: out of it. Let me say certain people in this

938
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: room maybe are a little rusty about how to really

939
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: have a bit play out beautifully because right now there's

940
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: nothing else to play out. Now everybody's in, Well, it's left.

941
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: Here's no because I actually don't really feel that invited,

942
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, so in that case, you don't just

943
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: go because you're kind of Oh, I forgot to invite you,

944
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: but please come over, please come to It was the

945
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: it's maybe the you know, the start of the end

946
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: of that bit, but the beginning of will Smith concussion everything,

947
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: and there's always something new and I want the truth?

948
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: But what was that? What it was? Was that the

949
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: exactly lie? I'm trying to remember what because it was

950
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: every commercial uh leading into that, but it wasn't you

951
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: can't handle the truth because that would have been a

952
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: few good men that have been a weird accent for

953
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: a few good minutes, tweeted Dan with the actual line.

954
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: Please it was tell the truth, Tell the truth. That

955
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: was it? Yeah, okay, anyway, you have Al Kamar at

956
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: number five, who's gonna who's gonna deny you? There? You

957
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: have Shady McCoy at six, and obviously, given his current

958
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: um issues and we again don't know if he actually

959
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: has legalitial issues on the way, but there's a lot

960
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: of speculation around him right now. This could take him

961
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: out of the mix entirely. But it's a good reminder

962
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: how good Shady McCoy is, and how Lashawn McCoy's presence

963
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: on the field separates the Bills from being okay to

964
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: being terrible. Yeah this was written before all the off

965
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: field stuff happened. But I was just thinking about McCoy

966
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: reminded of like remember earlier in his career, he was

967
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: like a third down back that people thought couldn't handle more,

968
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: and now he's turned out to be the total opposite,

969
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: which is basically the most durable running back of his

970
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: generation and in terms of staying healthy getting the touches

971
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: a year after year. One thing on Alvin Kamara. I

972
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: like this line. Kamara has a flow so sick it

973
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: makes you want to throw your food up. Oh yeah,

974
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Greg wrote this like four weeks.

975
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: I well, I did. I did something in I read

976
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: this piece from end to end. By the way, I

977
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: did something in that ranking just to amuse myself. I wrote,

978
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, since you bring it up, his whole are

979
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: with a variety of different little wayne. Okay, that was

980
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: that was gonna be my guests, and I would that

981
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: would not have caught it gotten my radar. So interesting.

982
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta you gotta just you gotta just

983
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: keep keep yourself fresh. I think I have the word

984
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: no ceiling popped up naturally, and then I just just

985
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: went with us the start of your veering away from

986
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: sports writing into a new genre, the combined sports writing

987
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: with art. What is the I figured, no one's really

988
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: gonna notice, maybe like three people. I'm curious, what's the

989
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: end game there? What would deem that a success? Like?

990
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: How many tweet mentions? Oh, it's just to him it was,

991
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: it's already been deemed the success. I enjoyed it, while okay,

992
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: really all I was searching. Sometimes you have to keep

993
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: yourself entertainment. The rest of the top ten, Uh, Devanta

994
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: Freeman at seven, Cream Hunt at eight, Leonard four Net

995
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: at nine, marketing him at ten. If you're curious the

996
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: bottom of the list like that, and then we could

997
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: jump in with any other thoughts. Uh, these are the bottom,

998
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: the bottom five according to Greg Rosenthal. To be clear,

999
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: these were just the top thirty two running backs in leagues,

1000
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: so it wasn't necessarily one from every team. There you go,

1001
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch at seven, so Greg not buying Lynch continuing

1002
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: to thrive and deeper into his thirties. Isaiah Crowel of

1003
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Odritic of the Lines twenty nine, Chris

1004
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: Thompson of the Redskins thirty, Aaron Jones and the Packers

1005
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: thirty one, and James White. You gotta have like thirty

1006
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: seven catches in the Super Bowl a year and a

1007
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: half ago. Uh two? Why why at the bottom of

1008
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: the list is that just a little little joke? Doesn't

1009
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: even run little joke, no little joke. I don't know.

1010
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: He's a great like a compliment player from Yeah, I

1011
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: thought it was giving him some love to put him

1012
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: on the list at all. I mean, he's a guy

1013
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: that only had forty three carries last year, so he's

1014
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: a little more one dimensional. Like pretty much the top

1015
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: twenty guys on this list were guys that can play

1016
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: all three downs, and he's not necessarily a guy you're

1017
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: trusting for that I got you can we jump around

1018
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: a little joke. I one guy that that I loved

1019
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: last offseason and the idea of him, I think there

1020
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: were moments in games where you saw everything everyone had

1021
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: talked about was Joe Mixon. But but ultimately, like I

1022
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: was pretty underwhelmed by his rookie season, not his athleticism,

1023
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: but really just maybe it's maybe again that's part of

1024
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: being in that offense. What was going on with that

1025
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: offense last year that was missing parts and had a

1026
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: terrible offensive line. They played a lot of good run defenses.

1027
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, is that someone at number eleven that

1028
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: I feel like he could he could really go higher

1029
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: up or I mean after this season, he could pick

1030
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: a big jump or he could tumble. I know West

1031
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: loves Yeah. You mentioned during the DeMarco Murray discussion about

1032
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: how hard he runs in his effort level. I think

1033
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is a lot like that, and he's I

1034
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: don't think you can evaluate him behind that offensive last year.

1035
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean eleven, to me, there was a kind of

1036
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: a clear line of demarcation mark Ingram was ten, for

1037
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: Net was nine, and that was kind of the the

1038
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: top backs and there was a pretty decent drop and

1039
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: it was who I'd want to have. And I think

1040
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: Mixon is gonna be much better. And I think if

1041
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: you watched the last couple of games, really the last month,

1042
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: but especially the last two games. Early in the year,

1043
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: he was trying to make every play a big run,

1044
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: but later in the year he was kind of being

1045
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: a little more trusting his blocks, taking two to three yards.

1046
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: His numbers were pretty good at the end of the year,

1047
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: and he looked really good in that in that Week

1048
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: seventeen game. Again you know to pull him off the

1049
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: field on third ten. He's a great pass catcher. Two

1050
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: one guy that jumps out to me and you have,

1051
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: I think in a good spot, kind of right in

1052
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: the middle of the list. Christian McCaffrey, who had a

1053
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting rookie year, kind of a hard

1054
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: to discern what direction he's going. Of course, he was

1055
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: drafted to be a superstar. He was I think eighth

1056
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: overall pick in sixteen, and he was obviously very good

1057
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, but as a runner left a

1058
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: lot to be desired. I'm wondering if kind of what

1059
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: we saw in year one is basically who the guy is,

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Speaker 1: or if there's room to grow. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you that I would definitely take him above

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Speaker 1: the guy who's number fourteen on the list, Kenyan Drake,

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Speaker 1: and Drake was the one to me that I would

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Speaker 1: move down about five spots of anybody on this list,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely. I think it's disrespectful to Jordan Howard

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Speaker 1: to put him below took a lot of your advice,

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Speaker 1: Havin Coleman. There's no question I'd rather have him than

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Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake for this year. Um, Dion Lewis, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have than Kenyan Drake and Christian McCaffrey. So I went

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Speaker 1: back and watched Kenton and Drake's like last month of

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Speaker 1: the season, and he's elusive. He has a suddenness. I

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Speaker 1: would not call him explosive in any way. Um, And

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Speaker 1: I think he works best out of shotguns spread. I'm

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Speaker 1: just not I've seen too many Jerome Harrison's and Sam

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Speaker 1: Kangato's and Mike Bell's and Jonas Grays have great Bryce Brown,

1076
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Speaker 1: all these guys who have great decembers, Jonas Gray. Jonas

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Speaker 1: Gray didn't lead the league in rushing for five straight weeks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kenyan Drake's was the leader, the leader in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and rushing Jerome Harris and Sam Yes, Bryce

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Speaker 1: Brown had two games better than anything Kenyan Drake ever did.

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00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: And Jerome Harrison had rushed for two or ninety yards

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Speaker 1: in a game I think, or something like that for

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Speaker 1: the Brown Welcome to the Lab. I'm just saying, like

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Speaker 1: these late season flurries. You haven't proven that you can

1085
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: handle a work with a small sample size. But you're right.

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00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm I'm putting my I'm putting my neck out that

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00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make the leap. Like if we

1088
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: did an individual players making the lap, Kenyan Drake would

1089
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: have been one of my top two or three spots.

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00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: Like you want you put him in? That puts him

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Speaker 1: at nineteen, where j Ji is the player they got

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00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: rid of in favor of Kenyan Drake's fine. My other

1093
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: quibble would be Isaiah Croel does not need to be

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: on this list, but c J and c J Anderson does,

1095
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: and Adrian Peterson does. Sometimes sometimes NFL personnel guys get

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00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: it wrong, and Adrian Peterson's an example. He can still

1097
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: play c J. Anderson might get a chance to to

1098
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: play quite a bit. Where would you put Peterson? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you consider? Like I didn't even think of. I

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Speaker 1: would put right around twenty one before you get into

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Speaker 1: the passing down specialists. There you go, Mark Greg, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Rosenthal, do you have a vanity

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Speaker 1: or all? Where's the respect? Every piece should have a vanity?

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Speaker 1: Euro when Greg's names attached to it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the vanity l really does forth, but we talked

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Speaker 1: about it a lot. Um. Remember everyone that we are

1107
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: trying to um beat the system. Hashtag let's get crooked. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast nominated for the Podcast Awards

1109
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Speaker 1: the Listener Podcast Awards, which I guess is a thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't even know what it is.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't I've been to the site. It is a

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Speaker 1: real thing and where we better be doing well. So

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Speaker 1: just head to podcast Awards dot com and nominate Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL in the quote sports category. We'd appreciate. We

1115
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Speaker 1: got a lot of feedback from people and have done that.

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Speaker 1: So let's stuff the ballot, let's get crooked, and we'll

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Speaker 1: fly and keep in mind everyone eggs piece up. Okay, Mark,

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Speaker 1: it's coming up later this week. Five reasons why the

1119
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: Patriots will make the play So keep your by the

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Speaker 1: way tomorrow. Five reasons the Bills will make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And you talk about having to get creative, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be your best work of a little bit of creative

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Speaker 1: on that one. Great Bradberry over there. All right, We'll

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Speaker 1: be back on Thursday with our second show. The week

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Speaker 1: so Mixture Check it Out would also of course be

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Speaker 1: a video show presented by New Era. So that's fun.

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Speaker 1: Biman eat picture like thigsman with like glow sticks, completely

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Speaker 1: out of his mind, just sweating profusely at the in

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Speaker 1: the front row. Anyway, so we'll be back Thursday's stand.

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Speaker 1: Hands is signing off for a quiet storm, the mail Man,

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Speaker 1: the Old Boss and Lindsay Paulton behind the glass till Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Take it away, fake football girl, I can say, I'll

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Speaker 1: by the way you dress and take a cowboy handed

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Speaker 1: with