WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 15

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Paps.

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<v Speaker 2>And good news, America. My Super Bowl pick is back on, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>The Rams beat the Giants.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, gutsy pick. You picking the Rams for the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody really went there. You stuck with them after the

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<v Speaker 3>tough times in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, most people bailed. I'm still with them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they delivered last night, Paul. What do we got

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<v Speaker 2>coming up?

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<v Speaker 4>A lot coming up today.

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<v Speaker 3>We got warm takes on Jim Harbaugh and Baker Mayfield

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<v Speaker 3>and naming rights. Someone's very upset about that. But Monday

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<v Speaker 3>Night Football, I was excited going in. And then Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>Dart got hurt. Yeah, well, listen, Jameis Winston came in.

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<v Speaker 2>Jameis Winston's had big moments in the NFL. Last night

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<v Speaker 2>was not one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was one of the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>The social media joke, is that World Cup correspondent Jameis

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<v Speaker 2>Winston playing football? He looked like he had not practiced

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<v Speaker 2>all summer. He played worse than I've ever seen him play.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen Jameis Winston a lot. Guy's got arm talent.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, his arm looked weak. He looked like he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know where to go. It was all bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that game set up, you know, there's Jackson Dart

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<v Speaker 3>hurt early, and it was not his fault. He just

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<v Speaker 3>stayed in the pocket and got kind of crunched with

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<v Speaker 3>a hyperextended knee. There was reports they tried to come

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<v Speaker 3>back in the game, but that took the air out

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<v Speaker 3>of the room because this felt like a night for

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<v Speaker 3>the Giants to make a national TV statement. John Harbaugh,

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Scadaboo, Malik Neighbors was healthy-ish for the game. And

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<v Speaker 3>once Dart goes down, it's like we're going uphill now.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though they got a couple turnovers, their defense

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<v Speaker 3>played well in the first half, Jameis Winston looked like

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<v Speaker 3>he forgot how to play the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you and Dan were also talking about the Giants'

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<v Speaker 2>complete failure to cover Devontae Adams. At what point did

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<v Speaker 2>you think, uh-oh, this number one wide receiver on the

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<v Speaker 2>Rams because Pukunuku is out, Devontae Adams, future Hall of Famer, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we double-team him?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's actually an easy one. It looked like they

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<v Speaker 3>were on his fan club or something. They were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to keep away from him like two magnets. Pukunuku is out.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, I don't even know what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>You see these fade patterns are a battle between the

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<v Speaker 3>defensive back. They got lost in the uniform. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>also a reminder game about how good Devontae Adams is.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a fantastic player at Green Bay. Three-time first-team All-Pro.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes to Las Vegas and kind of his career

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<v Speaker 3>cools a bit. Now he's right back in the thick

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eight catches, 195 yards, two TDs. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, DP show, was about is he a Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Famer. Dan said there's no debate. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>a question. I agree. Did anybody push back on that?

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<v Speaker 4>No, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he seems like he had a little break

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<v Speaker 3>in his career, but now he's going full blast.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get back to your Rams. You called them. Nobody

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<v Speaker 4>else did.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about the Rams today? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>all good clean up on aisle five?

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<v Speaker 2>It's beyond all good because Aaron Arnold did not do

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<v Speaker 2>much on the statue. Don't get me wrong. He drew,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a stat, 39% of the time he got

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<v Speaker 2>a double team. This is a guy who coming off

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<v Speaker 2>his couch, four out of every 10 snaps, they decided

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<v Speaker 2>to double team him, which meant the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>line looked tremendous. And there was no Miles Garrett. So

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<v Speaker 2>can you imagine when Miles Garrett gets back in a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks? This line is going to be probably the

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<v Speaker 2>best in the NFL, and that unit is good enough

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<v Speaker 2>to win games on its own. Forget the offense. I

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<v Speaker 2>think with Donald in the middle, once Myles Garrett gets back,

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<v Speaker 2>this defense is going to wreck games.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think the stat sheet doesn't do justice.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you said about Jalen Carter of the Eagles yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Donald looked fantastic last night. He was pushing into

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<v Speaker 3>the backfield right off the bat. If you get double teamed,

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<v Speaker 3>that's also a benefit for the entire defense. And without

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<v Speaker 3>Myles Garrett, think about when Myles Garrett's back in a month,

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<v Speaker 3>and Aaron Donald's much more into game speed.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Puka being out, not that big of a deal. The

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<v Speaker 3>running game was great. Matthew Stafford, no health issues. That

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<v Speaker 3>knee a couple years ago, the shoulder a couple years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't look like there's any issues with the Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, honestly, the only issue is that the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Niners also look amazing in the NFC West.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Seahawks. I'd say it's the biggest issue that

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<v Speaker 2>there's too much competition in the NFC. It's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the dream team scenario where they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go 16-1 and just storm straight to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in for a battle, but they look good.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you get into that thing where it's good to

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<v Speaker 4>have a loss?

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<v Speaker 3>Early in the season, a couple people on social media

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<v Speaker 3>and a couple media people said, You know, the Rams

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<v Speaker 3>could go 17-0, which is the biggest topic you want

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<v Speaker 3>to avoid if you're that coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you don't have to deal with that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the old Bill Belichick theory. I always thought

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<v Speaker 2>that around week three or four, Bill Belichick sort of

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<v Speaker 2>undercoached the team so he could work and yell at guys. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't buy that. I think that they honestly made

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake with Australia. I don't know if they win

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<v Speaker 2>that game anyway. You're seeing in San Francisco the team

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<v Speaker 2>they lost to, a fully constituted 49ers team with all

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<v Speaker 2>their stars healthy. I don't know how many games you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see San Francisco like that. But now that

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams are coming back, and the other thing about

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<v Speaker 2>last night, the game would have been a lot closer

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<v Speaker 2>if Jackson Dart had been healthy. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>was a bad team they beat up on last night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to tell. But I am confident. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams don't have a great home field advantage, but

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<v Speaker 2>they looked really comfortable last night. I am comfortable that

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<v Speaker 2>everything I thought about them preseason is true.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's look at the Giants angle of this because

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<v Speaker 3>it felt like there was some hope. And with Jackson Dart,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know how long he's out, but let's say

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<v Speaker 3>he's out for three weeks. Do you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>season as non-competitive, a ramp-up season, or could they get

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<v Speaker 3>it back?

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<v Speaker 4>If they were ever anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really worried. And it's health. Because it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson Dart. Malik Nabors came in and out of the lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>Toward the end of the game, Brian Burns, their star

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<v Speaker 2>pass rusher, hurts his lower ankle. Low ankle screen ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that better than high ankle?

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<v Speaker 2>That's definitely better than high ankle. And then their left tackle,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Thomas, got hurt with a groin. That really concerns me.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the O-line has been a consistent problem for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought they had it fixed this year. So I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it going to be one of those years where

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants just get beat up and beat up some more?

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<v Speaker 2>You obviously need Dart back in four or five weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>but already my expectations are falling.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've been pretty critical of Dart. Here's their

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<v Speaker 3>schedule coming up. Titans, you could pull out a win. Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 3>you could pull out a win. Washington, the Saints, it's

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<v Speaker 3>actually a pretty friendly month. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 3>can go into this month with Jameis Winston and think

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be a good thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think they'll go on the market at this point. But

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<v Speaker 3>without Jackson Dart, I've been critical of Jackson Dart because

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<v Speaker 3>of the way he took on contact last year. The

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<v Speaker 3>first two games, even though one game and five plays,

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't really do that. He got hurt, which is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of ironic, standing in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing. We've been talking a lot about the

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<v Speaker 2>concussions and the fact that he always gets in the

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<v Speaker 2>blue medical tent. I was glad that wasn't worse last night. Yeah. Scott,

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<v Speaker 2>our producer, said, thank God he was sort of jumping

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<v Speaker 2>up because if his foot was planted, he might have

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<v Speaker 2>tore his knee in half. He got the old Malachi crunch,

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<v Speaker 2>up high and up low.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice reference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I am worried about Jack Starr. I really like

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<v Speaker 2>him as a quarterback. I think I off-camera compared him

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<v Speaker 2>to Joe Burrow a little bit. I'm serious. He's top

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<v Speaker 2>10 talent. He is that good, I think, because he

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<v Speaker 2>can move. He's got an accurate arm. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he's ever going to be healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess that's the one good thing about the

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<v Speaker 3>Giants is maybe this year does not work out, but

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<v Speaker 3>you have John Harbaugh, and it feels like you have

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<v Speaker 3>your quarterback. And the Cam Scadaboo thing, it's a cute

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<v Speaker 3>story and it's nice. He's a nice player, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>Malik Neighbors. His health is, it's a team effort with Dart.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. And Neighbors looked good in week one, obviously wasn't himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to do game stickers, Paul?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do game stickers. You want to go first?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Okay. I've been thinking a lot about this game sticker.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many handouts. This is the Paps and Perloff

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<v Speaker 2>game stickers where You basically get a very ugly sticker.

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<v Speaker 4>Right on your helmet.

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<v Speaker 2>For a very pretty game. A lot of guys on

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams stood out, but I'm going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>tight end Terrence Ferguson. Second round pick in 2025. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, caught a touchdown. The reason I was impressed,

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<v Speaker 2>he had two drops early in the game, Paul. And

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Matthew Stafford kept coming back to him

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<v Speaker 2>and he delivered is a big deal. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>guy they had a lot of expectations for. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know the Rams love their tight ends. Yeah. Sean McVay

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<v Speaker 2>will go 12 personnel, 13 personnel, meaning two tight ends,

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<v Speaker 2>three tight ends. And Ferguson's a big part of what

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<v Speaker 2>they want to do, so he did not crumble after

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<v Speaker 2>a couple drops and had a big game.

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<v Speaker 3>And he doesn't get a lot of national attention because

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else soaks up all the attention.

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<v Speaker 4>Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald, you can go five down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, can you go even further now?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, here's my helmet sticker. For the first time

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<v Speaker 3>in show history, I'm bucking the trend and giving two

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<v Speaker 3>helmet stickers.

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<v Speaker 4>Scotty, permission? Permission granted.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyron Williams, the running back for the Rams, and Blake Corum,

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<v Speaker 3>the other running back for the Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>Two stud college running backs who are sharing time.

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<v Speaker 4>They each had 12 carries yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this tandem. These are two guys who can

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<v Speaker 3>catch the ball, run the ball. No one gets too

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<v Speaker 3>beat up. You don't spend too much on the running

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<v Speaker 3>back position, which I like that with the Rams. So

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<v Speaker 3>fiscal responsibility and good running game.

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<v Speaker 4>You know I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if we have enough stickers to

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<v Speaker 2>give it out to two guys, Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>I called the printing, and they're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. You know what, though? It's a bit of a system,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to admit, because the defense is so terrified

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<v Speaker 2>of Stafford. That's why McVay keeps on hitting them with run, run, run, run.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a winning formula.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, but I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I like protecting your quarterback with the running game as

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<v Speaker 3>much as the offensive line. And they have two nice

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<v Speaker 3>running backs. They don't have a Saquon Barkley. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a Derrick Henry, but they're also not paying that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of money.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, do you regret anything you said about

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams? Do you want to come clean after week

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<v Speaker 2>one in Australia? Did you give up on them at all?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't give up on them, but I also said

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<v Speaker 3>that the dream team thing, 17-0, it's the worst call

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, and it worked out that way.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, the Rams are a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about their uniforms in a little bit. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>what do we know after week two in the NFL?

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<v Speaker 3>Week two is in the books. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 3>those books are, but somewhere they're in the books. Week

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<v Speaker 3>two in the NFL, what do you know? What do

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<v Speaker 3>you feel great about, Pearl?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I feel great about saying the Cincinnati Bengals have

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot to fix their defense. We saw a

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<v Speaker 2>dominant performance against the Houston Texans. They had 27 pressures.

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<v Speaker 2>That's 43% of their dropbacks. They got a pressure on C.J.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud and the Texans. So that changed the game, only

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<v Speaker 2>let up six points. Week one, they looked good as well.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a defense that doesn't have to be great.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be okay. You have Joe Burrow and

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<v Speaker 2>Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, and they're more than okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you right now, their D-line dominated the game

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. They have eight sacks through two games. This

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<v Speaker 2>could be a really big deal. I thought about Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>as a Super Bowl pick. It did cross my mind, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>but now they have a defense, I think I should

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<v Speaker 2>have given more attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that's such an underrated offseason acquisition. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about Miles Garrett because he's a star.

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<v Speaker 3>Dexter Lawrence is is as good at what he does

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<v Speaker 3>as Miles Garrett is at what he does. But interior linemen,

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<v Speaker 3>as you brought again, your Jalen Carter take from yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>they cause havoc, and they cause havoc on every play.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need a sack with Dexter Lawrence. You just

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<v Speaker 3>need him to push up the middle. If the Bengals

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<v Speaker 3>could have a healthy wide receiver and a healthy quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>and a B-level defense, they can go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. And, you know, a lot of people rip that trade. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, ah, Dexter Lawrence didn't have a great year

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<v Speaker 2>last year. He's in his prime. Yeah, and also, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to draft a guy like Dexter Lawrence, so

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<v Speaker 2>a first-round pick might not mean that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think what the Bengals have seen in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>that they, you know, they bailed on Trey Hendrickson, and

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of didn't invest in their defense. They invested

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<v Speaker 3>in T. Higgins, invested in Jamar Chase, which you have

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<v Speaker 3>to do. But then, like, hey, just give them a

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<v Speaker 3>little to work with. All right, my what we know

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<v Speaker 3>after week two, I'm going to go with the Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 4>The Seahawks are all set.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's any problems with the Seahawks, which

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<v Speaker 3>is weird to say when your star quarterback, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even use the word star, your Super Bowl winning

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback is not on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>They got JSN right there. No problem. That's a burn,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a fantastic defense and they're not star laden.

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<v Speaker 3>They fixed their running back problem, which Darian Price. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's any problem. Drew Locke is just

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<v Speaker 3>cruising through teams. I think they're going to win 15 games.

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<v Speaker 2>No problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether they have Sam Darnold starting half of them or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I see them comfortably in the NFC title game. Because

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the NFC is the Bears, the Lions,

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<v Speaker 3>the Packers, the Eagles. Except the Rams and the Niners,

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<v Speaker 3>someone's got to go. So I think that the 49ers,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the Seahawks are on absolute cruise control

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a big yada yada, Paul. What about

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<v Speaker 2>the Niners and the Rams?

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<v Speaker 4>Sustainability.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're guaranteeing NFC title game. To me, those three

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<v Speaker 2>teams are about equal. I worry the Niners are going

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<v Speaker 2>to get hurt. So then you get into a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of who's healthier at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at 15 in that division, that means that

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<v Speaker 2>they beat the Rams and the Niners twice, not to

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<v Speaker 2>mention Arizona. Yeah, a couple there. Also, the Eagles, if

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles get a run game going, who knows? I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're a little premature of that. We can come

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<v Speaker 2>back to this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the wildest pick in the world to say

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<v Speaker 3>the Seahawks are in good shape, though. I can't say

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<v Speaker 3>it's the hottest take of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Sam Darnold is gone. It's a little hot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's warmish. We'll get into warm takes in a second, including...

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Harbaugh on the hot seat already?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul might go there. We'll get into that next. Not

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<v Speaker 2>so fast.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's Riley Green with his 1663 OPS in the City

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<v Speaker 5>Connect jerseys. And when your OPS in any category is

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<v Speaker 5>the same as the year when the Austro-Turkish War started,

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing well. That's 1663. Thanks, Andrew. Ground ball back

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<v Speaker 5>to the mound. Her is handled out number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Back on Not So Fast with Pabst and Perloff. That's

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Benetti, the popular NBC Sports and the Detroit Tigers

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<v Speaker 3>play-by-play man. And a great job by the director and

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<v Speaker 3>camera person saying geek after he had that reference. A

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<v Speaker 3>reference you probably knew, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course I knew that. But it's funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>think because we're in the industry and we know how

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<v Speaker 2>this works, the brilliance of that move cannot be understated.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a very good move by the director. Benetti,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to love that one. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for warm takes on Pabst and Perloff. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go first. Let's go to, here's one,

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Harbaugh. You know, it's not hot to say that

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<v Speaker 3>the Chargers are in a little bit of trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>You're 0-2.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a big schedule coming up. And I start

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<v Speaker 3>playing it out. What if the Chargers just don't get

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<v Speaker 3>it together and they don't make the playoffs? We're in

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<v Speaker 3>year three with Jim Harbaugh. I don't think he's in

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<v Speaker 3>danger of being fired. I don't think they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>make that type of decision after year three. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they would trust Harbaugh because of his coaching background. But

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<v Speaker 3>for a moment I said, well, you know, if he

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<v Speaker 3>does get fired, that's okay because colleges would just line

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<v Speaker 3>up to bring Jim Harbaugh back.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I remembered. Show cause.

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<v Speaker 3>For those that don't know the phrase show cause, that

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<v Speaker 3>means you can't coach here anymore. Jim Harbaugh has two

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<v Speaker 3>show causes or cause I against him from the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a four-year show cause and then a 10-year

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<v Speaker 3>show cause.

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<v Speaker 4>And I tried to double check yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they put them together. Is that concurrently, Perloff?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that the word I'm looking for?

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<v Speaker 4>Concurrently. So Jim Harbaugh, as of now, there.

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<v Speaker 3>Is an appeal process with show cause, as always with

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<v Speaker 3>college football and the NCAA. But if Jim Harbaugh somehow

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<v Speaker 3>was no longer the head coach, his options are another

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<v Speaker 3>NFL team, the broadcast booth, which is saucy, but he

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<v Speaker 3>can't go back and coach college football until, like.

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<v Speaker 4>2040 or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually, it is 2040 and that's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he can't appeal it. I wonder if the authorities

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<v Speaker 2>in college football, whoever that is, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>that is. That could be you for all I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Can they suspend the show cause because Jim Harbaugh draws

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ratings? Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a great thing. I was just about

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<v Speaker 3>to bring that up. For the good of the game,

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<v Speaker 3>I would un-show cause him if that's a phrase. Say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>no harm, no foul. jump on the Florida State team

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know how many years Kyle Whittingham wants

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<v Speaker 2>to coach at Michigan. If Michigan wants him back, they

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of power in the sport.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you're over show-causing there. You can't go back to Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you can't go back to Michigan?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can't even go. I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 3>go back to the Big Ten. You have to be

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<v Speaker 3>in a tropical state or out west.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back to Stanford, maybe? Maybe. It's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>waste of Jim Harbaugh. Stanford is not going to ever

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<v Speaker 2>be big ratings.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Clemson.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. For my warm take, let's talk about Matthew Stafford.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good quarterback. Last night, he passed Phillip Rivers for

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<v Speaker 2>six all-time in passing touchdowns. Now, if you've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>me do this take on Dan Patrick's show or anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in my career, get ready for it. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate system QB in this sense, Paul. In this sense.

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<v Speaker 2>If he didn't leave Detroit, Matthew Stafford would not be

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<v Speaker 2>in the Hall of Fame. He would be Phillip Rivers,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who has great stats but does not get

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<v Speaker 2>all the way. I think the fact that Matthew Stafford

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<v Speaker 2>left the Lions and got paired up with Sean McVay

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<v Speaker 2>is a major difference maker in his career, which proves

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<v Speaker 2>to me, Paul, being a quarterback is all about location, location, location.

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<v Speaker 2>If Tom Brady went to the Arizona Cardinals and not

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<v Speaker 2>the New England Patriots, then he is not the GOAT.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he's the other kind of GOAT. Matthew Stafford

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<v Speaker 2>is the ultimate proof that where you are drafted and

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<v Speaker 2>where you play makes all the difference. We've seen it

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<v Speaker 2>so many different times. Look at Sam Darner winning the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl. If he had stayed with the Jets, newsflash,

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<v Speaker 2>he was not going to win the Super Bowl. Now

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<v Speaker 2>Stafford is running up the charts. He now only trails

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<v Speaker 2>Brady Brees, Peyton Manning, and Brett Favre on the all-time

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown list. He's up there in yards and all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of stats. But I'm telling you right now, he only

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<v Speaker 2>had four winning seasons out of 12 in Detroit. If

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<v Speaker 2>he had not gotten to L.A., he would not be

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<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're not saying he's a system quarterback as much

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<v Speaker 3>as you're saying the system he joined changed his career arc.

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<v Speaker 2>Hence, system quarterback. I use system quarterback liberally. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 2>means the same thing. You have to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>right spot.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think sometimes people think system quarterback is almost

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<v Speaker 3>like a notch above game manager, not his talents. His

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<v Speaker 3>talents were being misused or mis-surrounded in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I mean, you can see the talent. Nobody throws

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<v Speaker 2>a ball like Matthew Stafford. It's an absolute canon. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone knew about the talent. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>that people were not into Matthew Stafford in Detroit. And

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<v Speaker 2>now legacy-wise, I think Orlovsky said he's top 10 all time.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at his career, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the inverse of Russell Wilson's career. Matthew Stafford struggled for

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<v Speaker 3>a decade. Not struggled, but he didn't win a lot

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<v Speaker 3>for a decade in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 4>Great numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he won, and he'll probably win another Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl if the odds are with him. Russell Wilson goes

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<v Speaker 3>to two and then his career kind of gets wonky

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<v Speaker 3>and he feels further from the Hall of Fame even

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<v Speaker 3>though I think Russell Wilson has nine Pro Bowls to

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<v Speaker 3>Matthew Stafford's two or three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Matthew Stafford, by the way, does have only

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<v Speaker 2>a 92.3 passer rating. Not great. I mean, part of

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<v Speaker 2>the reason Detroit didn't win is he wasn't always perfect. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>he's had Calvin Johnson and Puka Nakua and Devontae Adams,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's had some health. But again, congratulations for Stafford.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see if he gets up to the top three.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, for my next warm take, this one, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really kind of upset about this, sports upset about this one.

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<v Speaker 3>The Detroit Tigers have a new name for their ballpark,

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<v Speaker 3>a new sponsor, a new name. It's now called Hold

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<v Speaker 3>on to your seats. Fifth Third Bank Ballpark or Fifth

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<v Speaker 3>Third Ballpark.

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 4>Fifth Third Bank is the name of a bank. Fifth

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<v Speaker 4>Third Park.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dizzy.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to let you know I'm out. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>out on these naming rights. I'm out on calling things

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<v Speaker 3>what you tell me to call them.

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<v Speaker 4>Every few years.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll explain a little bit. The old name of the

0:18:26.820 --> 0:18:28.610
<v Speaker 3>Detroit Tigers ballpark was Comerica Park.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what we all grew up with, right?

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<v Speaker 3>We grew up, and I know that's also a corporate sponsor,

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<v Speaker 3>but Comerica sounds like America, which is easy to remember,

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<v Speaker 3>and we live here, and it sounds positive. Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to America Park. Yeah, that sounds awesome. I would

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<v Speaker 3>go to America Park and watch some baseball today.

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<v Speaker 4>But they got rid of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not going fifth, third bank at whatever field ballpark,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't think Tigers fans should either. I call

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<v Speaker 3>the place where the White Sox play Sox Park or

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<v Speaker 3>Comiskey Park. It was like the rate or the guaranteed rate.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care what it's called. The San Francisco Giants,

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<v Speaker 3>I still call it Candlestick, and they tore that thing down.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't keep up with the name changes there. In

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<v Speaker 3>the past 25 years, Candlestick Park has been, new building,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, Pac Bell Park, SBC Park, AT &amp; T Park,

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<v Speaker 3>and now Oracle Park. That's too many. I can't give

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<v Speaker 3>you four in 20 years. I can't do it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going back to Candlestick, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 3>Giants Park, great. It's a beautiful place. We've been there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>The Atlanta Braves now play at Truist Field. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know what product that is. I haven't bought any

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<v Speaker 3>Truist because of this. I'm not doing it. I'm sticking

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<v Speaker 3>with Fulton County Stadium.

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<v Speaker 4>Which was like a generation ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like Bob Horner and Dale Murphy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. And we love Dale Murphy here on this show.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll make you a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a sponsor that lasts for nine and

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<v Speaker 3>a half years, I will pivot and call it with

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<v Speaker 3>a sponsor.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the Trop or the Braves. Astros play?

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<v Speaker 2>The Trop.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds pretty cool. It's Tropicana Ballpark. But I can't

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<v Speaker 4>do this.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifth Third Park. I don't care if they offer me

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<v Speaker 3>free checking. I'm not calling it Fifth Third Bank Ballpark.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. That's very confusing. We're sports people.

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<v Speaker 3>We're C students.

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<v Speaker 4>Just simplify it for us. Fifth Third Bank Tigers. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>What about a cheat code where you go Invesco Field

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<v Speaker 2>at Mile High?

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<v Speaker 4>That's more confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>So they try and cheat in the old name, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're using the corporate name. It's way wordy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's confusing. Mile High.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>There's only one other thing Mile High could be, either

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<v Speaker 3>a football field or you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. That's a good one, Paul. I have to admit,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree with you, but I'm going to bring

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<v Speaker 2>back some real football analysis here. Let's get serious. The

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay Buccaneers overpaid Baker Mayfield. $ 55 million a year

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<v Speaker 2>for an aging quarterback. And I actually said it. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the problem with the Bucs. They are in the

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<v Speaker 2>division with the New Orleans Saints. And what are the

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<v Speaker 2>Saints paying Tyler Shuck, Paul? A lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Not at all. $ 2 million a year.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not paying him anything. So the key to winning

0:20:48.619 --> 0:20:50.760
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL is pay your quarterback nothing and build

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<v Speaker 2>talent around him. Not have an aging team and an

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<v Speaker 2>aging quarterback. And then you let your Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver, Mike Evans, go to San Francisco and Baker Mayfield,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was on the team with Evans, is 4-10

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<v Speaker 2>without Mike Evans on the field. And you have seen

0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.159
<v Speaker 2>him desperately miss him in the first two weeks. Had

0:21:08.510 --> 0:21:11.570
<v Speaker 2>big turnovers in week one, cost him the game, although

0:21:11.609 --> 0:21:13.649
<v Speaker 2>the defense was also bad. And then they lost to

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Browns. If you're the Bucs, you are so

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<v Speaker 2>miserable right now. Guess what, Paul? The extension he signed

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<v Speaker 2>this summer doesn't kick in the next year. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have salary cap ramifications. for the next three

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<v Speaker 2>or four years. So you've already put a rebuild, which

0:21:26.750 --> 0:21:29.189
<v Speaker 2>was necessary. You might not have wanted to admit it.

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<v Speaker 2>You put a rebuild on hold for three or four

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<v Speaker 2>years for Baker Mayfield. Now you're 0-2. You look bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You're struggling. This contract was a mistake. $ 55 million. Come on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I agree with your take on Baker Mayfield. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to take check you here and call it $ 20.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you saying, though, that when you have a great quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't pay them or just the mids? Like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 3>like the Bengals, when they had the contract with Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 3>you pay it and you gladly pay it?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. There's no way around it. Burrow's 26.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, 28. 28? Yeah, no, but Baker Mayfield and Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow are not in the same situation. Of course you're

0:22:03.700 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 2>going to pay Joe Burrow. But you're talking about maybe

0:22:06.380 --> 0:22:09.420
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks one through seven on the list. For most other quarterbacks,

0:22:09.740 --> 0:22:11.899
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Houston better be watching what's happening in

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:13.530
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay because if they're going to give C.J. Stroud

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<v Speaker 2>$ 55 million a year— They better be sure that he

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<v Speaker 2>is the man.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, before we break, there was some warm takes. There's

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<v Speaker 3>one topic that's been sticking in our craw a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the past two days, you saw Caleb Williams' injury,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, prayers for the injury, the hamstring injury. It

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<v Speaker 3>looked really bad during the Bears' loss to the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 3>But then, when it turns out it's just a grade

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<v Speaker 3>one hamstring, everyone on social media had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>fun with it. And social media was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>is he going to be okay? And they kind of

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<v Speaker 3>goofed on the injury. But some real people, some former

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<v Speaker 3>players and some media people, called Caleb Williams soft.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Where is the line for critiquing an injured athlete? Do

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<v Speaker 4>you have one?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you can't critique a real injury, but you can

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<v Speaker 2>critique a week-to-week hamstring guy. Yeah, he wasn't injured for real,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can critique him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think some people on social media and even

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.449
<v Speaker 3>real people that are on air in our industry were like, oh,

0:23:03.490 --> 0:23:06.380
<v Speaker 3>that is soft, a hamstring injury. I don't think that

0:23:06.500 --> 0:23:09.179
<v Speaker 3>kind of insinuates he was making up that scream or

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<v Speaker 3>making up the need for the cart or making up

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<v Speaker 3>those tears and was trying to be dramatic for attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a bigger picture with Cal Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you look at any feature on him. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a photo shoot before the season where he was

0:23:21.490 --> 0:23:25.190
<v Speaker 2>screwing around and making these silly poses. People have major

0:23:25.230 --> 0:23:27.770
<v Speaker 2>questions about his personality, and this adds to it. If

0:23:27.810 --> 0:23:30.129
<v Speaker 2>it was another quarterback, say Joe Burrow, who we were

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about, If he screamed and said, my hamstring hurts,

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<v Speaker 2>then we found out he's week to week, nobody would care.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is because of Caleb Williams. This is Caleb Williams'

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<v Speaker 3>specific criticism and poking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and maybe it's not fair. It's funny. People go

0:23:42.780 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 2>back and forth about the painted fingernails, about a USC

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.070
<v Speaker 2>when he was hugging his mom. I personally like him.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's a good quarterback. But it does sort

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<v Speaker 2>of fit the folklore of Caleb Williams that he's maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not the most serious quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Last thing before we wrap this.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about the difference between a media

0:23:59.190 --> 0:24:02.649
<v Speaker 3>person who's never played football before critiquing Caleb Williams' reaction

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<v Speaker 3>and a former player?

0:24:04.910 --> 0:24:07.830
<v Speaker 2>A former player is more important, obviously. Yeah, that's legit.

0:24:08.109 --> 0:24:10.020
<v Speaker 2>A media person. But here's the thing. I think a

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:10.860
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are having fun.

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<v Speaker 4>That seems like trolling and baiting, though, if you're actually

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<v Speaker 4>calling himself.

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you think Caleb Williams himself can have fun with

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<v Speaker 2>this and maybe come back at a press conference next

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<v Speaker 2>week and say, OK, yeah, that looked bad, but I'm back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine. Have fun with it.

0:24:20.859 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 3>He's like in a body cast and rolls out and

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<v Speaker 3>just pops it off.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be a good move, Bears PR staff. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Nate Adkins covers the Rams for The Athletic. He was

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:30.899
<v Speaker 3>there last night and tells us all what's going on

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 3>with Puka, Miles Garrett, and much, much more.

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<v Speaker 4>Stick around. This is Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 7>We got the right people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think, you know, sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.

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<v Speaker 3>And, you know, sometimes you have a dumbass coach that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, makes travel plans that put you in a

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<v Speaker 3>bad spot.

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<v Speaker 7>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Not So Fast, Perloff and Paps.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean McVay, easy to do after a win, right, Paul?

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<v Speaker 3>Very easy to do, but he put a bow on

0:24:56.330 --> 0:24:59.490
<v Speaker 3>that story forever. He blamed himself, said, hey, that's on me.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a fun one. Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems like an Ivy League shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. You felt a little loose there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we need to talk about the Rams in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's bring in senior writer of The Athletic, covers the Rams,

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<v Speaker 2>Nate Atkins. Nate, so all is good in Rams land?

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<v Speaker 2>We're all adjusted to the new time zone and we

0:25:16.700 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about the Rams anymore? I guess so.

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<v Speaker 7>A little caught up on sleep after that trip to Australia.

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<v Speaker 7>Back to cracking jokes. Back to smiling at press conferences.

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<v Speaker 7>It was a strange week and a half, honestly, to

0:25:31.109 --> 0:25:34.210
<v Speaker 7>come back from Australia. These guys are just not used

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<v Speaker 7>to losing a game like that. I started on this

0:25:36.730 --> 0:25:38.990
<v Speaker 7>beat a year ago at this time, and I'd never

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<v Speaker 7>seen them lose by more than one score. They lost

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<v Speaker 7>by 20 there. I just had to eat the fact

0:25:45.020 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 7>that they came up with a unique travel plan and

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.149
<v Speaker 7>it blew up in their face, but I think we

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.170
<v Speaker 7>were finally able to at least put that part of

0:25:52.230 --> 0:25:55.250
<v Speaker 7>it to bed with Sean joking about the travel plans

0:25:55.290 --> 0:25:57.890
<v Speaker 7>being the reason and them getting back to looking like

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<v Speaker 7>the team that we thought they would look like this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Nate, let's get to Aaron Donald. He's been off for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple years. Clearly, he's let himself go. If you

0:26:05.570 --> 0:26:08.490
<v Speaker 3>saw him last night, my God, mixing a salad, my man.

0:26:09.109 --> 0:26:11.190
<v Speaker 3>The crowd went berserk when he came on the field.

0:26:11.230 --> 0:26:13.260
<v Speaker 3>I saw it in the pregame. He did not look

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.020
<v Speaker 3>like he's missed much. What did you think of his

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:16.740
<v Speaker 3>performance if you had to grade it out?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I thought he was impressive. It didn't necessarily stuff

0:26:21.470 --> 0:26:23.230
<v Speaker 7>the box score. He didn't have a sack. He didn't

0:26:23.260 --> 0:26:25.739
<v Speaker 7>have a quarterback hit, but he did the thing that

0:26:25.780 --> 0:26:27.820
<v Speaker 7>he did for many years here, which is create for

0:26:27.900 --> 0:26:31.859
<v Speaker 7>so many other players. So many double teams came his way,

0:26:32.100 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 7>and you saw that just spring everything else open. The

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 7>Rams ended up having a pressure rate of almost 60%

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.370
<v Speaker 7>for that game with eight quarterback hits, and I saw

0:26:41.710 --> 0:26:44.609
<v Speaker 7>Byron Young really teed off on the edge around Aaron

0:26:44.630 --> 0:26:46.890
<v Speaker 7>Thompson in those situations, one of them a third down

0:26:46.930 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 7>tackle for loss. So, you know, it was 32 snaps

0:26:50.540 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 7>last night, a little over half a game. I think

0:26:52.530 --> 0:26:54.949
<v Speaker 7>he's just going to continue to ramp that up. And

0:26:55.030 --> 0:26:57.629
<v Speaker 7>so I think you're encouraged about what he can do

0:26:57.670 --> 0:27:00.390
<v Speaker 7>in the interim without Myles Garrett. And then really once

0:27:00.470 --> 0:27:03.810
<v Speaker 7>they bring Myles Garrett back from injured reserve, I think

0:27:03.830 --> 0:27:06.090
<v Speaker 7>that's where it gets exciting because I saw a stat

0:27:06.150 --> 0:27:09.540
<v Speaker 7>on the NFL's next-gen stats that Aaron Donald was the

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 7>third fastest defensive tackle in the league this week. And

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<v Speaker 7>he's 35 years old.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:27:15.300 --> 0:27:17.580
<v Speaker 7>How he manages to do this, I'll never figure out.

0:27:17.660 --> 0:27:20.420
<v Speaker 7>I just turned 35 a month ago. I cannot move

0:27:20.460 --> 0:27:20.900
<v Speaker 7>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, we thought you could.

0:27:22.940 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 3>We thought you might be able to, just so you

0:27:24.460 --> 0:27:25.220
<v Speaker 3>know we had your back.

0:27:26.090 --> 0:27:27.990
<v Speaker 2>You know, by the way, on offense, we have a

0:27:28.050 --> 0:27:30.850
<v Speaker 2>similar dynamic here, Nate. Did you know that Devontae Adams

0:27:30.869 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>had an 8-catch, 195-yard game in him at 33? I know.

0:27:37.580 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 7>Last night was just a night for the older guys.

0:27:40.180 --> 0:27:43.220
<v Speaker 7>You had Matthew Stafford moving up the list of career

0:27:43.310 --> 0:27:47.110
<v Speaker 7>passing touchdowns with four more scores. Yeah, I think that

0:27:47.130 --> 0:27:50.989
<v Speaker 7>was the cathartic release of last night. The big takeaway

0:27:51.230 --> 0:27:53.350
<v Speaker 7>I saw from a lot of people after week one

0:27:53.369 --> 0:27:56.030
<v Speaker 7>was that the Rams looked old and that adding a

0:27:56.050 --> 0:27:59.050
<v Speaker 7>35-year-old Aaron Donald wasn't going to solve the fact that

0:27:59.090 --> 0:28:01.950
<v Speaker 7>they looked old and a step slow. And I think

0:28:02.020 --> 0:28:04.020
<v Speaker 7>last night was a reminder that, yeah, these guys are

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.750
<v Speaker 7>a little older. than most of the stars of the league,

0:28:06.810 --> 0:28:08.490
<v Speaker 7>but they're still stars for a reason.

0:28:08.570 --> 0:28:10.310
<v Speaker 3>Nate, I want to go back to Myles Garrett because

0:28:10.570 --> 0:28:11.670
<v Speaker 3>it's a little confusing to me.

0:28:11.710 --> 0:28:13.390
<v Speaker 4>You work there every day and you cover the team.

0:28:13.780 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Was that a Myles Garrett injury in preseason in the

0:28:16.900 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 3>game or was that like a car getting a checkup?

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.180
<v Speaker 4>It's just been building for years. Any details on that?

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:25.940
<v Speaker 7>That was an injury that popped up real early in

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.310
<v Speaker 7>training camp. I want to say it was July 29th.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.050
<v Speaker 7>He was supposed to talk to us in a press

0:28:31.070 --> 0:28:33.050
<v Speaker 7>conference and then he went to a trainer's room and

0:28:33.070 --> 0:28:35.750
<v Speaker 7>then that lasted an hour and a half. The problem

0:28:35.810 --> 0:28:37.930
<v Speaker 7>is that I don't think the Rams or Miles saw

0:28:37.970 --> 0:28:40.510
<v Speaker 7>it at the time as anything that serious. Miles was

0:28:40.570 --> 0:28:43.430
<v Speaker 7>joking about, you know, I just get sore sometimes. I'm

0:28:43.450 --> 0:28:47.110
<v Speaker 7>an older player. The Rams don't play their starters in preseason.

0:28:47.130 --> 0:28:49.470
<v Speaker 7>They were still a month away. And so I think

0:28:49.490 --> 0:28:51.810
<v Speaker 7>they just thought, you know, this guy doesn't need preseason.

0:28:51.850 --> 0:28:54.990
<v Speaker 7>This doesn't seem like a real big injury. This just

0:28:55.010 --> 0:28:58.530
<v Speaker 7>seems like soreness that we can use maintenance on. The

0:28:58.570 --> 0:29:01.350
<v Speaker 7>problem is that because they don't play him in the preseason,

0:29:01.390 --> 0:29:03.290
<v Speaker 7>they never got to see him in a live football

0:29:03.310 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 7>setting before. until week one in Melbourne. And then you

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.100
<v Speaker 7>add in the travel and trying to play that game

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.690
<v Speaker 7>with no preseason. Every player was affected by that, Miles

0:29:12.750 --> 0:29:15.290
<v Speaker 7>that much more. And they realize that for as prolific

0:29:15.350 --> 0:29:19.310
<v Speaker 7>as he is, he's still human. And then he can't

0:29:19.370 --> 0:29:21.250
<v Speaker 7>play at the level that he wants to play at

0:29:21.330 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 7>with this knee injury. And so I do think in hindsight,

0:29:24.740 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 7>they would have, if they knew all that, done something

0:29:28.140 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 7>different in the preseason and maybe get him a surgery then.

0:29:31.500 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 7>But It just worked out that they didn't realize that

0:29:34.140 --> 0:29:34.780
<v Speaker 7>until week one.

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.900
<v Speaker 2>All right, Nate, so we've seen two weeks in the

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.890
<v Speaker 2>NFC West. You got to see the Niners up close

0:29:38.930 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 2>in Australia. What's your impression of where the Rams stand

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:43.900
<v Speaker 2>in that division, in the NFC West?

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's still the best division in football, and the

0:29:48.500 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 7>Seahawks are just adding to that, even though they lost

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.740
<v Speaker 7>Sam Darnold, at least for the interim, but their defense

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 7>is so dominant that they're able to start 2-0. I

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.820
<v Speaker 7>think the 49ers put a lot of concerns in to

0:29:59.900 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 7>rest about kind of their aging roster, at least to

0:30:03.420 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 7>start the year, have come out really, really strong, especially

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.940
<v Speaker 7>on offense. And, you know, I think the Rams are

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.620
<v Speaker 7>going to be right in that mix. You know, the

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.980
<v Speaker 7>Rams have a few things they still have to prove

0:30:14.070 --> 0:30:16.890
<v Speaker 7>as far as can they keep these stars healthy with

0:30:16.950 --> 0:30:20.390
<v Speaker 7>Puka Nakua dealing with an injury, Myles Garrett on injured reserve,

0:30:20.430 --> 0:30:24.060
<v Speaker 7>and then Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford, Devontae Adams are not

0:30:24.100 --> 0:30:26.780
<v Speaker 7>exactly young, so I think they have to prove that

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 7>they can keep this together, but I do think they

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 7>showed they have a much better floor, and they still

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.700
<v Speaker 7>have some big-time superstar players last night, and so it's

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:36.850
<v Speaker 7>going to be a battle because these teams at the

0:30:36.890 --> 0:30:39.150
<v Speaker 7>top of the NFC West have one of the toughest,

0:30:39.750 --> 0:30:41.830
<v Speaker 7>three of the toughest schedules in the league for facing

0:30:41.870 --> 0:30:44.510
<v Speaker 7>each other, and some of the divisions they pulled in

0:30:45.230 --> 0:30:49.810
<v Speaker 7>across the league, like the AFC West, so it's going

0:30:49.830 --> 0:30:51.490
<v Speaker 7>to be a big challenge. But I think the Rams,

0:30:52.570 --> 0:30:55.170
<v Speaker 7>they need to try everything they can this year, unlike

0:30:55.210 --> 0:30:58.310
<v Speaker 7>last year, to win this division, get home field advantage

0:30:58.370 --> 0:31:01.410
<v Speaker 7>because they travel the second most miles of any team

0:31:01.450 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 7>behind the 49ers. And for an older team, for them

0:31:04.540 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 7>and for the 49ers, getting a week off in the playoffs,

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.700
<v Speaker 7>getting to play at home would be a big benefit.

0:31:10.180 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. I think another headline is Nate Atkins is back

0:31:13.020 --> 0:31:18.590
<v Speaker 2>after the Australia trip. You look good, ready to go. readjust.

0:31:18.610 --> 0:31:21.290
<v Speaker 7>I was sick for a couple days after that, so

0:31:21.310 --> 0:31:23.630
<v Speaker 7>believe me, it hit me like a train, too. So

0:31:24.110 --> 0:31:25.980
<v Speaker 7>I understand a little bit of why the Rams played

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 7>the way they did.

0:31:26.620 --> 0:31:27.300
<v Speaker 4>All right.

0:31:27.380 --> 0:31:30.260
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Nate. Talk to you soon. Wow. Thanks for

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>having me. It's amazing what one week, actually 10 days,

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.270
<v Speaker 2>can do. It felt like the Rams-Australia trip is already

0:31:36.290 --> 0:31:37.150
<v Speaker 2>in a rear view mirror.

0:31:37.250 --> 0:31:38.810
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there was a lot of star power there

0:31:38.850 --> 0:31:39.170
<v Speaker 4>last night.

0:31:39.210 --> 0:31:41.610
<v Speaker 3>It feels like the Rams are not taking some of

0:31:41.630 --> 0:31:43.810
<v Speaker 3>the star power in the crowd from the Lakers or

0:31:43.850 --> 0:31:45.900
<v Speaker 3>even the Dodgers, but This feels like a super team,

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 3>and you saw some of those suites last night, and

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 3>LeBron was there.

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.140
<v Speaker 2>Everybody was there. The one that had Russell Westbrook, the Gretzky's,

0:31:52.770 --> 0:31:55.510
<v Speaker 2>and somehow Pat McAfee, who was on his phone when

0:31:55.530 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the camera went to him.

0:31:56.410 --> 0:31:56.950
<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you something.

0:31:57.010 --> 0:31:59.590
<v Speaker 3>Are there two Pat McAfees? Because he seems like he's

0:31:59.670 --> 0:32:00.370
<v Speaker 3>everywhere these days.

0:32:00.410 --> 0:32:01.010
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

0:32:01.250 --> 0:32:02.830
<v Speaker 3>Before we wrap it up, I have a question for you.

0:32:02.850 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 3>You don't know this is coming. A little surprise question

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.700
<v Speaker 3>here on Not So Fast. Based off last night's game,

0:32:08.250 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 3>You can start your team, your franchise, with any current

0:32:11.820 --> 0:32:14.340
<v Speaker 3>Rams player. Knowing what you know about his career, you

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.620
<v Speaker 3>get his whole career healthy. Among the candidates, Matthew Stafford,

0:32:17.900 --> 0:32:23.220
<v Speaker 3>Devontae Adams, Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald, Puka Nakua, Trent McDuffie.

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.340
<v Speaker 4>You get their entire career healthy.

0:32:27.510 --> 0:32:30.710
<v Speaker 2>I go Matthew Stafford one because he's the quarterback.

0:32:31.130 --> 0:32:32.790
<v Speaker 4>So you're your default quarterback guy?

0:32:33.190 --> 0:32:35.110
<v Speaker 2>Of course. I mean, you want to be the quarterback

0:32:35.230 --> 0:32:37.370
<v Speaker 2>because the best player on that list is Aaron Donald.

0:32:37.410 --> 0:32:38.970
<v Speaker 4>And based off that, I'm taking him off the board.

0:32:39.010 --> 0:32:41.990
<v Speaker 4>That's a curveball. You can't do Aaron. No, I'm taking

0:32:42.030 --> 0:32:42.650
<v Speaker 4>Matthew Stafford.

0:32:42.690 --> 0:32:46.210
<v Speaker 2>It's Aaron Donald then. Aaron Donald is the historic player. Now,

0:32:46.230 --> 0:32:48.580
<v Speaker 2>I understand people think Miles Garrett might be the greatest

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.700
<v Speaker 2>pass rusher of all time. Aaron Donald, because of what

0:32:50.740 --> 0:32:53.020
<v Speaker 2>he did in the Super Bowl, is one of the

0:32:53.140 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 2>top Five or six NFL defensive players of all time.

0:32:56.180 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you.

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.830
<v Speaker 3>I go Aaron Donald. Those guys are impossible to find.

0:32:58.890 --> 0:33:01.150
<v Speaker 3>And you get first ballot Hall of Famer for whatever

0:33:01.210 --> 0:33:05.190
<v Speaker 3>many years. No Devontae Adams, Puka Nakua, sure thing, wide receiver.

0:33:05.210 --> 0:33:07.020
<v Speaker 2>Well, you get to be on offense, so that's fun.

0:33:07.060 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 2>But Puka Nakua has already hit a lot of speed

0:33:08.820 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 2>bumps in his career on and off the field, so

0:33:10.860 --> 0:33:13.700
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't pick Puka. You know what? How about if

0:33:13.740 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I give you a head coach, Sean McVay?

0:33:15.300 --> 0:33:16.620
<v Speaker 4>Oh, head coach over player?

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Sean McVay is in his 30s and already

0:33:19.260 --> 0:33:21.450
<v Speaker 2>has a Super Bowl and is featured on 60 Minutes

0:33:21.470 --> 0:33:21.850
<v Speaker 2>the other day.

0:33:21.870 --> 0:33:23.750
<v Speaker 4>That's a good call. You threw it right back at me.

0:33:23.930 --> 0:33:27.890
<v Speaker 2>All right. Florida is favored over Ole Miss this weekend,

0:33:27.930 --> 0:33:30.110
<v Speaker 2>but should they be? We'll hear from Florida head coach

0:33:30.170 --> 0:33:33.170
<v Speaker 2>John Summerall on the ClipJoy. That's next. Not so fast.

0:33:37.810 --> 0:33:39.170
<v Speaker 2>Devontae Adams, Hall of Famer.

0:33:40.310 --> 0:33:41.290
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, absolutely.

0:33:42.150 --> 0:33:43.590
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

0:33:43.690 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 6>When you go to three different teams and you lead

0:33:46.390 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 6>the league three different times in touchdowns on three different teams,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.260
<v Speaker 6>it takes me And he is. He's at a different place.

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.500
<v Speaker 9>I put him as a Hall of Famer, but I

0:34:01.140 --> 0:34:06.900
<v Speaker 9>liken him to a guy like Andre Johnson. See, he's

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 9>gone to three different teams, but he's been blessed with

0:34:09.860 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 9>some very good quarterbacks.

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.580
<v Speaker 6>But he's certainly a first ballot Hall of Famer for me.

0:34:15.900 --> 0:34:16.819
<v Speaker 8>First ballot Hall of Famer.

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Back on Not So Fast, Paps and Perloff, that was

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.500
<v Speaker 3>Michael Irvin, the playmaker earlier on the Dan Patrick Show

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 3>with DP, and he had no doubt about Devontae Adams.

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I will say, though, one lesson about Devontae Adams, never

0:34:29.580 --> 0:34:32.650
<v Speaker 3>leave your quarterback. When he was in Green Bay, that

0:34:32.670 --> 0:34:35.250
<v Speaker 3>guy was cruising. His last three years in Green Bay,

0:34:35.310 --> 0:34:37.890
<v Speaker 3>he was first-team All-Pro. I think he led the league

0:34:37.910 --> 0:34:42.050
<v Speaker 3>in touchdown receptions a couple times. He wanted a new start.

0:34:42.110 --> 0:34:43.609
<v Speaker 3>He wanted to go to Las Vegas. I think he

0:34:43.660 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 3>played out there.

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Also, he went to college with Derek Carr. They were

0:34:47.380 --> 0:34:47.940
<v Speaker 2>good friends.

0:34:48.180 --> 0:34:49.540
<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of friends from college I'd like

0:34:49.580 --> 0:34:51.740
<v Speaker 3>to hang out with, but I'm not leaving Aaron Rodgers

0:34:51.780 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 3>in my prime, Aaron Rodgers' prime, to go to Derek Carr,

0:34:54.860 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 3>who's a very nice quarterback, and had one great year together.

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:02.100
<v Speaker 3>I thought that Devontae Adams was costing himself the Hall

0:35:02.140 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 3>of Fame when he went to the Raiders.

0:35:03.219 --> 0:35:06.660
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had the same thought, but... Lifestyle-wise, if you

0:35:06.700 --> 0:35:08.850
<v Speaker 2>saw there was a documentary on Netflix about wide receivers,

0:35:09.350 --> 0:35:10.870
<v Speaker 2>his house was a lot nicer in Vegas. I'm going

0:35:10.890 --> 0:35:12.270
<v Speaker 2>to tell you right now, his wife looked a lot

0:35:12.330 --> 0:35:15.390
<v Speaker 2>happier losing games in Vegas than winning games in Green Bay.

0:35:15.430 --> 0:35:17.259
<v Speaker 3>Are we doing the game, would you rather live in

0:35:17.300 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Green Bay, Wisconsin, or Las Vegas, Nevada? Because we haven't

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 3>done that one in a while. Just so you know,

0:35:21.500 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not being pandering, I would live in Green

0:35:23.980 --> 0:35:24.989
<v Speaker 3>Bay any day over Vegas.

0:35:25.260 --> 0:35:27.090
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Devontae Adams, one thing, he has a

0:35:27.110 --> 0:35:28.930
<v Speaker 2>Taco Bell in his house, if you recall. That's true.

0:35:28.950 --> 0:35:29.930
<v Speaker 2>So that's a little different.

0:35:29.950 --> 0:35:31.230
<v Speaker 4>That's not just a spot. That's true.

0:35:31.330 --> 0:35:33.819
<v Speaker 2>No, he absolutely has, and there's a guy back there.

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.220
<v Speaker 2>But Irvin nailed it, though. It doesn't matter. For Devontae Adams,

0:35:37.300 --> 0:35:39.819
<v Speaker 2>he made up for it because he got with Stafford later. Oh, yeah.

0:35:40.260 --> 0:35:42.569
<v Speaker 2>And I got to be honest, we're not talking about enough.

0:35:42.660 --> 0:35:44.529
<v Speaker 2>I'm shocked how good he was last night. It looked

0:35:44.550 --> 0:35:46.870
<v Speaker 2>like nothing had diminished even though he's 33.

0:35:46.870 --> 0:35:48.969
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people thought it was like Puka and

0:35:49.030 --> 0:35:50.830
<v Speaker 3>he was the B guy. And he's still a very

0:35:50.870 --> 0:35:52.850
<v Speaker 3>good B guy, but I don't think anyone saw that coming.

0:35:52.969 --> 0:35:54.710
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and who do you trust more talking about wide receivers,

0:35:54.870 --> 0:35:56.069
<v Speaker 2>Michael Irvin or us?

0:35:56.810 --> 0:35:58.310
<v Speaker 4>I think that's still up for debate. All right, coming

0:35:58.350 --> 0:36:01.730
<v Speaker 4>up next. Oh, this is very cool. Saints quarterback Tyler

0:36:01.790 --> 0:36:03.509
<v Speaker 4>Shuck was on the show. This is fantastic.

0:36:03.870 --> 0:36:05.779
<v Speaker 3>He's a great Saints quarterback. It's his first time on

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.500
<v Speaker 3>the Dan Patrick Show. And he talked about his childhood

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:09.980
<v Speaker 3>crush growing up at the quarterback position.

0:36:10.350 --> 0:36:10.930
<v Speaker 4>Here's how that went.

0:36:11.630 --> 0:36:14.570
<v Speaker 8>I'd say Matthew Stafford. Yeah, I would say Stafford was

0:36:15.170 --> 0:36:17.350
<v Speaker 8>kind of one of my favorites. My dad being from Michigan,

0:36:18.190 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 8>kind of watching him, his arm talent, his different angles,

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 8>his toughness, being able to kind of play against him earlier,

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:26.940
<v Speaker 8>you know, last year, and then being able to kind

0:36:26.980 --> 0:36:28.879
<v Speaker 8>of talk to him a couple times has been really

0:36:28.900 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 8>cool to be able to do so far.

0:36:31.860 --> 0:36:32.340
<v Speaker 2>Have you met him?

0:36:33.710 --> 0:36:35.149
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I got to talk to him a couple

0:36:35.190 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 8>times at the the NFL honors award show, and then, um,

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 8>you know, joint practices this, this year. Um, so it's, um,

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.490
<v Speaker 8>it's really cool being able to kind of learn, uh,

0:36:44.550 --> 0:36:46.750
<v Speaker 8>from him, you know, he's got some, so many years

0:36:46.790 --> 0:36:49.650
<v Speaker 8>of experience and, and, uh, you know, the level that

0:36:49.690 --> 0:36:53.009
<v Speaker 8>he's playing at, it's really encouraging, especially, um, just kind

0:36:53.050 --> 0:36:55.509
<v Speaker 8>of considering where he's at in his career as well.

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.660
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting. Dan mentioned after that clip that

0:36:59.700 --> 0:37:02.540
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people he talks to, young quarterbacks, worship

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.509
<v Speaker 2>Matthew Stafford. I get it. There's nobody who throws a

0:37:05.530 --> 0:37:06.010
<v Speaker 2>prettier pass.

0:37:06.050 --> 0:37:08.090
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the window of time because you go, Stafford

0:37:08.110 --> 0:37:10.810
<v Speaker 3>in college was a star. Big arm, number one draft pick.

0:37:11.050 --> 0:37:13.210
<v Speaker 3>And even though it didn't work out so well, he

0:37:13.250 --> 0:37:14.910
<v Speaker 3>still put up a lot of numbers in Detroit.

0:37:15.050 --> 0:37:16.690
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if you're a quarterback, I don't think you

0:37:16.730 --> 0:37:18.450
<v Speaker 2>care as much about who wins a game, who has

0:37:18.489 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>a better highlight. And I'll be honest, I'm not going

0:37:20.140 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 2>to call out youngsters, and Tyler Shuck's not even that young.

0:37:22.739 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Some of them just watch highlights, and they, you know,

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.899
<v Speaker 2>I have a nephew who's 13, shout out Parker. He

0:37:28.100 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 2>only watches five minutes of highlights. So if you look

0:37:30.260 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>at a Matthew Stafford highlight reel, it's spectacular. They don't

0:37:33.140 --> 0:37:34.690
<v Speaker 2>care if the Detroit won or lost.

0:37:34.830 --> 0:37:37.430
<v Speaker 3>You talked earlier about spending money on quarterbacks. Right now,

0:37:37.510 --> 0:37:40.529
<v Speaker 3>Tyler Shuck is making $ 2 million. $ 2 million next year,

0:37:40.530 --> 0:37:41.430
<v Speaker 3>$ 3 million the.

0:37:41.390 --> 0:37:41.890
<v Speaker 4>Year after that.

0:37:42.670 --> 0:37:45.430
<v Speaker 3>If he plays well, you're forced to pay him the

0:37:45.430 --> 0:37:48.940
<v Speaker 3>$ 300 million five- to six-year contract. But the first half

0:37:48.980 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 3>of his career, you basically got for free as far

0:37:51.180 --> 0:37:52.100
<v Speaker 3>as a quarterback is concerned.

0:37:52.140 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the Saints have to go for it right now

0:37:53.739 --> 0:37:55.620
<v Speaker 2>because he's good enough to go to a high level

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:56.730
<v Speaker 2>if he's got a great team around him.

0:37:56.739 --> 0:37:57.299
<v Speaker 4>And that division.

0:37:57.710 --> 0:37:59.810
<v Speaker 2>Also, what was the story? His dad was wearing a

0:37:59.850 --> 0:38:00.810
<v Speaker 2>DP Show t-shirt?

0:38:00.969 --> 0:38:03.570
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we made a shirt last year. Dan Patrick's

0:38:03.590 --> 0:38:04.509
<v Speaker 3>show made a shirt called.

0:38:06.420 --> 0:38:07.420
<v Speaker 2>Shuck around.

0:38:07.460 --> 0:38:08.460
<v Speaker 4>Shuck around and find out.

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:08.860 --> 0:38:09.660
<v Speaker 4>His dad bought one.

0:38:09.739 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we gave it to him for free,

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.140
<v Speaker 3>and he had a picture with a DP show fan

0:38:13.380 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 3>after our Saints game.

0:38:14.060 --> 0:38:16.299
<v Speaker 2>I know. That was funny. Tyler answered that. He seemed

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:19.180
<v Speaker 2>like a good dude. All right. Talking about a guy

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 2>on a high right now. Okay. Ole Miss are underdogs

0:38:22.940 --> 0:38:26.339
<v Speaker 2>to Florida this week, and Florida coach John Summerall tried

0:38:26.380 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>to sort of dampen the reaction. Here's Summerall.

0:38:29.700 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 10>Who's got his favorite against these guys?

0:38:33.420 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Do they?

0:38:34.620 --> 0:38:39.910
<v Speaker 10>There's a lot of good drugs out there, huh? I mean, yeah.

0:38:41.469 --> 0:38:43.890
<v Speaker 10>I did talk to our team about rankings in week

0:38:43.930 --> 0:38:49.670
<v Speaker 10>four mean nothing. Nobody posts anything up in the building

0:38:50.390 --> 0:38:52.589
<v Speaker 10>about this year's team where you're ranked in week four.

0:38:53.430 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 10>Nobody cares. And the same pats in the back you're getting,

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:58.620
<v Speaker 10>if you go out and lay an egg, you're going

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 10>to be the same hands hitting you in the back

0:39:01.020 --> 0:39:02.020
<v Speaker 10>and there's going to be a knife in it.

0:39:02.969 --> 0:39:04.089
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot to chop up here.

0:39:04.210 --> 0:39:07.109
<v Speaker 3>John Summerall, the former Tulane coach, is really rolling in Florida.

0:39:07.130 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 3>It's September, but he's rolling. And Florida fans, you've been

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:11.700
<v Speaker 3>wanting to roll for a while now.

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 4>A couple things.

0:39:12.820 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I was surprised as well that Ole Miss is not

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.100
<v Speaker 3>favored in that game. It's almost like Vegas is saying

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 3>they shot their shot last week, and this will be

0:39:19.420 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 3>a letdown game. Also, John Summerall doesn't blink. I watched

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.670
<v Speaker 3>that video. I counted no blinks in the entire video.

0:39:24.670 --> 0:39:24.910
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

0:39:25.010 --> 0:39:26.149
<v Speaker 4>He's too busy coaching to blink.

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>So an interesting debate about John Summerall. Is that performative?

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Is he playing the role of a college football coach

0:39:31.300 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 2>because he wants to fire up the team, wants to

0:39:33.219 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>be good on camera because he's one of those guys

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:36.859
<v Speaker 2>who's we're clipping him every week.

0:39:37.060 --> 0:39:38.989
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think some of these guys are like that.

0:39:39.270 --> 0:39:42.469
<v Speaker 3>I think he's being an enhanced version of himself. He's

0:39:42.489 --> 0:39:44.890
<v Speaker 3>trying to sell a program and brand himself. He was

0:39:44.950 --> 0:39:47.710
<v Speaker 3>at Tulane, not a household name. If he wins and

0:39:47.750 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 3>is a character, we'll buy into him. We're buying into

0:39:49.860 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 3>him today on the show. It's like Mike McDaniel. When

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 3>he was the offensive coordinator out in San Francisco, he

0:39:55.060 --> 0:39:55.660
<v Speaker 3>would do interviews.

0:39:55.700 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 4>He was a character.

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.770
<v Speaker 3>Then he goes down to the Miami Dolphins. I think

0:39:58.810 --> 0:40:00.570
<v Speaker 3>he's an accentuated version of himself.

0:40:00.730 --> 0:40:02.270
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got to tell you, I agree with Summerall.

0:40:02.310 --> 0:40:05.190
<v Speaker 2>The rankings now are totally useless. Even Ole Miss, you

0:40:05.210 --> 0:40:07.490
<v Speaker 2>saw in the second half, they totally fell apart against Louisville,

0:40:07.770 --> 0:40:10.109
<v Speaker 2>and then they fell apart against LSU in the second half.

0:40:10.570 --> 0:40:12.569
<v Speaker 2>I have questions about that team. I have questions about

0:40:12.590 --> 0:40:14.419
<v Speaker 2>the whole SEC, but I think a lot of people

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>are anointing Ole Miss. I think Summerall knows, hey, we

0:40:18.020 --> 0:40:19.819
<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity to really make a splash here.

0:40:20.140 --> 0:40:22.219
<v Speaker 4>It really will be. It'll be a national stage for him.

0:40:22.260 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be a great weekend.

0:40:23.140 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 3>We have something we do every week on this show.

0:40:25.300 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 3>When I say every week, this is week two. It's

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.910
<v Speaker 3>called the College Football Play of the Season, and it's

0:40:30.130 --> 0:40:32.210
<v Speaker 3>kind of a King of the Hill type thing. What

0:40:32.250 --> 0:40:34.310
<v Speaker 3>was the best one last week? What was the best

0:40:34.390 --> 0:40:36.870
<v Speaker 3>one this week? And can it be toppled? Let's start

0:40:36.910 --> 0:40:40.760
<v Speaker 3>with week one was Drew Mestermaker, the quarterback of Oklahoma State,

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:42.779
<v Speaker 3>doing the old John Elway spin.

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 4>This was great. Big win for Oklahoma State.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Glorious in the air. Slow motion and fast. That is

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.180
<v Speaker 3>tough to top. And they won the game, which is

0:40:52.219 --> 0:40:52.990
<v Speaker 3>a big kicker, right, Pearl?

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.350
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Drew Mestermaker made himself a likely top 10 pick

0:40:56.370 --> 0:40:57.529
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL draft for that game.

0:40:57.590 --> 0:41:00.210
<v Speaker 3>Now, my concern for Mr. Mestermaker, which is hard to say,

0:41:00.469 --> 0:41:03.330
<v Speaker 3>is that may be one week only. Because NC State,

0:41:03.450 --> 0:41:06.980
<v Speaker 3>the fumble, and the Vandy walk-off is.

0:41:08.300 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Unbelievable.

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 3>It still looks like one of those things you made

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:12.980
<v Speaker 3>up in a TV show or a movie about football

0:41:13.020 --> 0:41:13.879
<v Speaker 3>that can't actually happen.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.779
<v Speaker 2>I know. But we don't know, I mean... we might know,

0:41:17.020 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 2>the names of the players involved.

0:41:19.100 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't think we know their names.

0:41:20.219 --> 0:41:26.450
<v Speaker 3>It's just the bandy game? The fumble, the non-safety, the blooper.

0:41:26.530 --> 0:41:28.860
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what this play is called, but It.

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.980
<v Speaker 2>Could also be called the worst play of the year.

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Can it be the best play and the worst play simultaneously?

0:41:33.739 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 4>But here's the thing.

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I checked my notes. It's the college football play of

0:41:36.660 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 3>the season. Does it have to be inherently positive?

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.630
<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, all positive plays are negative for somebody. So

0:41:43.230 --> 0:41:45.290
<v Speaker 2>I think it wins, Paul. I think Vanity is at

0:41:45.330 --> 0:41:46.009
<v Speaker 2>the top of the heap.

0:41:46.150 --> 0:41:46.630
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you.

0:41:46.690 --> 0:41:48.509
<v Speaker 3>I just want to be able to watch this every week.

0:41:48.550 --> 0:41:50.649
<v Speaker 3>And Scotty says that if we give them the win,

0:41:50.710 --> 0:41:53.170
<v Speaker 3>we get to see it every week. So NC State...

0:41:53.570 --> 0:41:56.550
<v Speaker 3>Immortality stays with you. You are now the college football

0:41:56.570 --> 0:41:57.750
<v Speaker 3>play of the week on Not So Fast.

0:41:57.850 --> 0:42:00.310
<v Speaker 2>Wow. It was tough enough to lose the game. Now

0:42:00.410 --> 0:42:01.370
<v Speaker 2>NC State has to deal with it.

0:42:01.370 --> 0:42:02.310
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you thought you may not.

0:42:02.350 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Drew Mestermaker. We'll keep an eye on what's going

0:42:04.219 --> 0:42:06.260
<v Speaker 3>on with you. All right, coming up next, we have

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.860
<v Speaker 3>constructive criticism. that feel good, and much, much more. A

0:42:09.860 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 3>little more Rams talk as well.

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:12.500
<v Speaker 4>Stick around. This is Not So Fast.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.410
<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back. Not So Fast, Paps and Perloff,

0:42:15.469 --> 0:42:18.130
<v Speaker 2>NBC Sports Now and Peacock. So every week we're going

0:42:18.150 --> 0:42:20.770
<v Speaker 2>to do the college football play of the season, and

0:42:20.890 --> 0:42:23.330
<v Speaker 2>now we're going to do the NFL play of the season,

0:42:23.370 --> 0:42:25.790
<v Speaker 2>sort of a king of the mountain thing. Last week

0:42:25.830 --> 0:42:27.450
<v Speaker 2>it was T.J. Watt, Paul.

0:42:27.489 --> 0:42:28.350
<v Speaker 4>That great interception.

0:42:28.410 --> 0:42:32.890
<v Speaker 2>Yes, great interception against Atlanta. I believe this was his

0:42:32.969 --> 0:42:34.430
<v Speaker 2>first touchdown in his career.

0:42:35.469 --> 0:42:37.950
<v Speaker 3>Does this seem less impressive now because of the Atlanta

0:42:37.989 --> 0:42:38.930
<v Speaker 3>quarterback play?

0:42:40.590 --> 0:42:42.210
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely.

0:42:42.310 --> 0:42:43.009
<v Speaker 4>No, sorry, TJ.

0:42:43.340 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>TJ probably had a better play week, too. No, this

0:42:45.780 --> 0:42:49.460
<v Speaker 2>week we have some strong competition, though, Paul. This play

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.380
<v Speaker 2>you talked about on yesterday is not so fast.

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 4>Jamar Chase.

0:42:52.140 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Jamar Chase. I mean, sorry, TJ, but I don't know

0:42:56.300 --> 0:42:58.900
<v Speaker 2>how you can't make this Jamar Chase catch against the Texans.

0:42:58.980 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Now, speaking for TJ, he's supposed to make catches like this.

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 3>TJ Watt's not supposed to make catches like this.

0:43:04.980 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Nobody is supposed to be able to turn like that

0:43:07.550 --> 0:43:10.230
<v Speaker 2>with the best cornerback in the league, arguably, and Derek

0:43:10.270 --> 0:43:13.330
<v Speaker 2>Stigley on you and pinpoint the ball and keep your

0:43:13.370 --> 0:43:15.190
<v Speaker 2>feet inbounds. Pretty incredible.

0:43:15.430 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's look at this play. TJ Watt versus Jamar Chase.

0:43:18.940 --> 0:43:19.460
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.380
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go with Jamar Chase because almost slowing

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 3>that down takes away from it. When you look at it,

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.590
<v Speaker 3>there's a certain point where the ball is here. And

0:43:27.630 --> 0:43:29.890
<v Speaker 3>he's here, and he twists his body. It does not

0:43:29.930 --> 0:43:30.810
<v Speaker 3>look physically possible.

0:43:30.870 --> 0:43:32.649
<v Speaker 2>No, that's so hard to do, to track the ball

0:43:32.670 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 2>and keep your balance. And, again, he got his feet

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:36.450
<v Speaker 2>in balance. I don't know how he did it. I

0:43:36.450 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 2>have a feeling Jamar Chase himself will challenge us because

0:43:38.860 --> 0:43:39.259
<v Speaker 2>he makes a.

0:43:39.340 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 4>Lot of spectacular— Can he beat himself is what you're asking.

0:43:41.780 --> 0:43:44.620
<v Speaker 2>All right, Paul. We have some news that I'm not

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 2>happy about. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm

0:43:46.180 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 2>a little bummed about this.

0:43:47.100 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 4>I know it's coming.

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 8>Okay.

0:43:48.989 --> 0:43:52.130
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota quarterback Kyler Murray is out of the concussion protocol.

0:43:52.190 --> 0:43:54.650
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy about that part. That's great. What I'm not

0:43:54.690 --> 0:43:57.240
<v Speaker 2>happy about is they're immediately going back to him against

0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:01.410
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay this week. Bye-bye Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz is 2-0.

0:44:01.900 --> 0:44:03.900
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray did not look good when he was out

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.460
<v Speaker 2>there in week one. Why are they so certain that

0:44:06.500 --> 0:44:08.390
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray is the guy to lead this team?

0:44:08.530 --> 0:44:10.750
<v Speaker 3>I think Wentz is a safe and smart pick here,

0:44:10.790 --> 0:44:12.870
<v Speaker 3>but I think this might be, look at Carson Wentz

0:44:12.890 --> 0:44:13.569
<v Speaker 3>doing good work.

0:44:13.850 --> 0:44:15.509
<v Speaker 2>And that was in the driving rain. Of course he

0:44:15.550 --> 0:44:17.430
<v Speaker 2>did nothing against the Bears. Nobody could do anything.

0:44:17.489 --> 0:44:19.010
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say he beat the Bears, but he definitely

0:44:19.030 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't lose to the Bears. He played better than them.

0:44:21.420 --> 0:44:23.940
<v Speaker 4>I would say this. I think this is a management decision.

0:44:24.100 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 3>I think their head coach is being encouraged to start

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:31.230
<v Speaker 3>Kyler Murray because that was the offseason direction. Let's see

0:44:31.270 --> 0:44:32.950
<v Speaker 3>if Kyler Murray could take us to heights. I don't

0:44:32.989 --> 0:44:36.170
<v Speaker 3>think they see heights with Carson Wentz. They think he can, like,

0:44:36.550 --> 0:44:38.589
<v Speaker 3>As they say, keep things afloat. That's the big term

0:44:38.610 --> 0:44:41.060
<v Speaker 3>these days when backup quarterbacks keep things afloat. I think

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:43.819
<v Speaker 3>they want to give Kyler Murray half the season to

0:44:43.860 --> 0:44:46.549
<v Speaker 3>see if he could work himself into Kyler Murray four

0:44:46.570 --> 0:44:46.830
<v Speaker 3>years ago.

0:44:47.290 --> 0:44:48.950
<v Speaker 2>Part of me thinks the Vikings don't know what they're doing.

0:44:49.010 --> 0:44:51.660
<v Speaker 2>Based on this, there was Kyler Murray and J.J. McCarthy

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 2>battling all August to see who gets the starting job.

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Carson Wentz only worked out with the third team. What

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.339
<v Speaker 2>happens in week one? Kyler Murray gets hurt. Carson Wentz

0:44:59.380 --> 0:45:01.020
<v Speaker 2>is right in there with the first team. Took him

0:45:01.060 --> 0:45:04.150
<v Speaker 2>a few quarters, but he adjusted. I think he deserves

0:45:04.190 --> 0:45:06.070
<v Speaker 2>this spot. And honestly, I think he's the best quarterback

0:45:06.130 --> 0:45:07.170
<v Speaker 2>out of those three quarterbacks.

0:45:07.190 --> 0:45:08.930
<v Speaker 4>And I think Justin Jefferson, if he had a vote,

0:45:08.950 --> 0:45:09.770
<v Speaker 4>would go with Carson Wentz.

0:45:09.950 --> 0:45:12.230
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. How hard is it to be the Vikings quarterback?

0:45:12.350 --> 0:45:14.310
<v Speaker 2>Find Justin Jefferson on every play.

0:45:14.350 --> 0:45:15.029
<v Speaker 4>And don't run.

0:45:15.050 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, coming up, here we have constructive criticism. Your feedback, questions, comments.

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 3>What is the color of the shirt?

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:21.940
<v Speaker 4>We don't know.

0:45:22.739 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

0:45:23.140 --> 0:45:24.779
<v Speaker 4>Constructive criticism. First one, Pearl.

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:29.020
<v Speaker 3>When celebrating your birthday, do you go cake or pie?

0:45:29.060 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I prefer cherry pie.

0:45:29.980 --> 0:45:32.180
<v Speaker 4>This is Nick in Texas. Big fan of Not So Fast.

0:45:32.260 --> 0:45:35.700
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. You notice his Twitter handle is ThePerloffs. He

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.390
<v Speaker 2>used to run the Perloff Fan Club. Oh, yes.

0:45:38.430 --> 0:45:39.330
<v Speaker 4>I subscribe to that page.

0:45:39.370 --> 0:45:42.989
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it wasn't huge, but it's growing. Happy birthday, Nick.

0:45:43.630 --> 0:45:46.130
<v Speaker 2>I found this very, very different. Like, he's from a

0:45:46.130 --> 0:45:48.530
<v Speaker 2>different part of the country. People go pie on their birthday?

0:45:48.650 --> 0:45:51.910
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I'm into it. Apple pie, pumpkin pie,

0:45:51.950 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 3>blueberry pie. I think I may do that this year

0:45:54.620 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 3>just to support our fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you stick a candle in a piece of pie?

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<v Speaker 4>I think you can comfortably.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be dangerous, Paul, from a fire safety angle.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop, drop, and roll. That's what my mom taught me.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>The next one, constructive criticism. These yellow jerseys that the

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<v Speaker 3>Rams look like practice jersey shelf jerseys. Okay, can we

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<v Speaker 3>just go back to the classic looks for each team?

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<v Speaker 3>And also, Rams uniform, ouch. We are the home of

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<v Speaker 3>uniform criticism on TV. I was not offended by these.

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<v Speaker 3>The yellow is too much for me. It also looks

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like see-through, which I don't really want to

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<v Speaker 3>do that with football players.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe my wife I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the stripes. I like the pants stripes. But

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams have so many better options in their history.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's bothersome to people. They have great uniforms in

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<v Speaker 3>their past. Just pick one and stick with it, for

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<v Speaker 3>God's sake.

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<v Speaker 2>The best one is all white and then a white

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<v Speaker 2>helmet with a blue stripe. Now, they went halfway there

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<v Speaker 2>by bringing the white helmet back. If they bring that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of Deacon Jones white look, that would be amazing. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny, too. Todd Fritz showed up at the Dan

0:46:54.860 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Show wearing that unusual Rams color. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how he had that actual color in his wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see anything see-through on him. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>last one, constructive criticism.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's one.

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<v Speaker 3>Duke deserves more love from Michael Manker, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>fun name to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, here's Duke football. They're pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>They're much more competitive than the past decade. And you

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:16.060
<v Speaker 3>have UNC next month and then Miami on November 14th.

0:47:16.540 --> 0:47:19.060
<v Speaker 3>If Duke beats Miami on November 14th, you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get all the love you ever needed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not happening. Listen, Darian Mensah was still at Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we could have that conversation. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they have a chance. Miami didn't look great against Wake, though.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Duke, you're on the clock. All right, here

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<v Speaker 4>we go.

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<v Speaker 2>The feel-good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for the feel-good on Not So Fast. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is an extra, extra special one, I'm being told.

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco Giants rookie Bo Davidson, good baseball name. His

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<v Speaker 3>first career at-bat, his first career hit, and look at

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<v Speaker 3>the family in the stands at Pac Bell, AT &amp; T,

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<v Speaker 3>Oracle Park, whatever it's called.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. So he's a September call-up. There's nothing better

0:47:57.010 --> 0:47:59.170
<v Speaker 2>than a September call-up making some noise. That's one of

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<v Speaker 2>my fantasies. I don't fantasize about starting first baseman for

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<v Speaker 2>the Phillies. I'm a September call-up guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think if your team is not in

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs and not really playing for anything, if you

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<v Speaker 3>get a first hit in front of your family, just

0:48:09.870 --> 0:48:11.270
<v Speaker 3>invite them on the field to celebrate with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Have mom be a pinch runner. Why not?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just run in the stands, jump around, and see

0:48:16.590 --> 0:48:16.989
<v Speaker 4>what you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it's funny. Baseball, we're getting towards the end, Paul.

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Just a couple games left, a couple playoff races.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the AL West is in flux, but who knows.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, that was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Rams game last night, not so good for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll keep an eye on injuries all week here on

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<v Speaker 3>Not So Fast. Jane Daniels, Kayla Williams, and Jackson Dart.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man, I hope they're no more.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, tune in tomorrow at the Dan Patrick Show,

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<v Speaker 3>9 to noon Eastern, right here on Peacock.

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<v Speaker 4>Stick around for us right afterwards. Talk to you later.