WEBVTT - "America's Mayor" In Critical Condition

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Monday, May fourth, and America's mayor is in

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<v Speaker 2>a Florida hospital and in critical condition.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning.

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<v Speaker 2>With that, we welcome you to this episode of Amy

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<v Speaker 2>and TJ getting up to this news rogues. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people might have missed overnight, but Rudi Giuliani apparently

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<v Speaker 2>he's in pretty bad shape in the hospital, and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't exactly know why.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't exactly know why.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no official word on what sent him to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>We only have word that he is in critical but

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<v Speaker 4>stable condition. And if you look at the headlines and

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<v Speaker 4>you start to see the reaction from folks who are

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<v Speaker 4>already putting out statements, it almost appears as though we're

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<v Speaker 4>witnessing someone dying. I mean, that is the tone that

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<v Speaker 4>you're hearing from folks. It's almost like people are printing

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<v Speaker 4>his obituary already just because and I shouldn't say just because.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he is in the hospital, possibly fighting for

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<v Speaker 4>his life right now. But this seems to be fairly

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<v Speaker 4>significant and scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, this is the guy we have seen for the

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<v Speaker 2>past several years, and every time we see him publicly,

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, he doesn't look like he is in the

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<v Speaker 2>best of health. Still, he's an eighty one year old

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<v Speaker 2>man who has been through it has certainly been through

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<v Speaker 2>a lot over the past several years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just period. We understand.

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<v Speaker 2>What comes with this robes is when you hear an

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one year old man is in critical condition in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital. You don't know when he went in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know why he win the hospital. So it

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<v Speaker 2>leaves a lot of questions. I know a spokesperson put

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<v Speaker 2>out a statement in rob of this, I guess kind

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<v Speaker 2>of said what needed to be said, but it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>give us a whole lot one way or another, did it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, we didn't get a lot of details. I'll go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and read it for you right now. This came

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<v Speaker 4>from his spookesperson late on Sunday. He said, Mayor Rudy

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<v Speaker 4>Giuliani is currently in the hospital where he remains in

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<v Speaker 4>critical but stable condition. Mayor Giuliani is a fighter who

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<v Speaker 4>has faced every challenge in his life with unwavering strength,

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<v Speaker 4>and he is fighting with that same level of strength

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<v Speaker 4>as we speak. We do ask that you join us

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<v Speaker 4>in prayer for America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have right we don't have any indication. We

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<v Speaker 2>just got a word he's in the hospital in critical condition,

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<v Speaker 2>but was there any indication of when how long he

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<v Speaker 2>might have been in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what we know.

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<v Speaker 4>His last show on X was on Friday, so I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't realize. He is a very busy former mayor. Not

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<v Speaker 4>only does he have a role in Homeland security, he

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<v Speaker 4>has a streaming show called The Rudy Giuliani Show, and

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<v Speaker 4>he has America's Mayor Live on X and so he

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<v Speaker 4>did a show on Friday, and you could hear in

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<v Speaker 4>his voice that it was really raspy, and so he

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<v Speaker 4>even said, my voice is a little under the weather,

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<v Speaker 4>so I won't be able to speak as loudly as

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<v Speaker 4>I usually do. And if you listen to his broadcast,

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<v Speaker 4>he's coughing throughout the broadcast. Now, he streamed his The

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<v Speaker 4>Rudy Giuliani Show that's on Lyndel TV on Wednesday, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was noted he's missed several episodes in April and

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<v Speaker 4>the last time he worked a five day week was March.

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<v Speaker 4>So it appears as though he had some sort of

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<v Speaker 4>respiratory virus, some sort of illness that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was dogging him in.

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<v Speaker 4>The month of April, and he still was able to

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<v Speaker 4>go on and do his shows periodically, but not as

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<v Speaker 4>regularly as he had been doing them.

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<v Speaker 3>And on Friday he sounded like he was in tough shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so maybe this had maybe this had been coming

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<v Speaker 2>he finally got into the hospital. Now, Robesy, you helped

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<v Speaker 2>me with some clarity here as well. Most of the

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<v Speaker 2>headlines I saw said critical, did he? And then of

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<v Speaker 2>course I saw an update to a critical butt stable?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it always critical but stable? I couldn't tell if

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<v Speaker 2>his condition changed from just critical to critical but stable.

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<v Speaker 3>Something doesn't sound like it changed. It changed, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was always when he got in there, he was in

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<v Speaker 4>critical condition. And look, when you have an eighty one

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<v Speaker 4>year old man who has had some of the health

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<v Speaker 4>issues he's had, and certainly the emotional mental issues, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure that he's been dealing with a lot of legal

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<v Speaker 4>troubles in addition to his workload.

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<v Speaker 3>As an eighty one year old.

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<v Speaker 4>When you have an eighty one year old having respiratory issues,

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<v Speaker 4>that can be life threatening for sure, Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is the guy you mentioned. Other I

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<v Speaker 2>can't recall the other health issues but I do remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean everybody recalls and remembers and saw the hell

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<v Speaker 2>all almost his life has been since twenty twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>a particular election that he got caught up in and

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<v Speaker 2>caught up ines Besides President Trump, is there anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>was louder who was screaming louder publicly that that election

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<v Speaker 2>was rigged and stolen than Rudy Giuliani.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was President Trump first and Rudy Giuliani second,

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<v Speaker 4>and so yes, I didn't realize, so I knew that

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<v Speaker 4>charges against him in Georgia were dropped to election subversion,

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<v Speaker 4>but he is still facing criminal charges in the state

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<v Speaker 4>of Arizona, which he's pleaded not guilty. To remember the

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and forty eight million dollar defamation lawsuit that

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<v Speaker 4>he lost to those Georgia election workers who they have

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<v Speaker 4>been trying for the past several years to get paid

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<v Speaker 4>in some way, And he's had to sell things, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was trying to hide things according to them, like cars, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Car involved a car from an actress or something.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to give it up.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think he ended up actually able to keep that.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so he's been going through all of those

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<v Speaker 4>legal woes he was disbarred in July of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four because of his efforts to challenge the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>election results. And he was hospitalized in August after he

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<v Speaker 4>had a pretty serious car accident in New Hampshire where

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<v Speaker 4>three others they were all sent to the hospital. So

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<v Speaker 4>he was still recovering from. Look, when you're eighty years

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<v Speaker 4>old in a massive car accident, that does a number

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<v Speaker 4>to your body. And then I hadn't realized. I asked

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<v Speaker 4>you if you had known this seither that Trump appointed

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<v Speaker 4>him in June to an advisory council role inside the

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<v Speaker 4>Department of Homeland Security, So he still has a role

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<v Speaker 4>within the government, and he's got these shows that he's

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<v Speaker 4>putting on at least he tries to do five days

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<v Speaker 4>a week while he's battling some pretty significant legal challenges.

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<v Speaker 4>And again we mentioned his age, so he has a

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<v Speaker 4>lot on his plate and he's now yes, severely ill.

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<v Speaker 3>We just don't know what actually sent him to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's.

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<v Speaker 2>People feel all kinds of way about this guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>this guy could do no wrong, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Too bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's difficult that the conversation around this guy who was

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<v Speaker 2>Robes was He not the hero political hero of nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven, if I know, there's not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>victors or somebody that's trying to win, but Robes even

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<v Speaker 2>George W. Bush and some compliments he got for how

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<v Speaker 2>he handled we could still see him with that bullhorn

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<v Speaker 2>down there right at ground zero. But Mayor Giuliani performed

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<v Speaker 2>pretty admirably. By that's a consensus opinion almost about him

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<v Speaker 2>after nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the strength that not only New York City needed,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think that the entire country needed and looked to.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't living in New York at the time. I

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<v Speaker 3>was in DC. Where were you on nine to eleven?

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<v Speaker 1>I was in le Rock, Arkansas?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>And still did you not feel so connected to the

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<v Speaker 4>city of New York, and specifically connected to the mayor

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<v Speaker 4>of that city, Rudy Giuliani. When he spoke and he

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<v Speaker 4>got in front of those cameras, I felt a little safer.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like we were going to be okay, that

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<v Speaker 4>New York was going to rise again under his leadership,

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<v Speaker 4>and certainly did.

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<v Speaker 3>Crime was down.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he had a unbelievable track record as mayor

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<v Speaker 4>from nineteen ninety four to two thousand and one. He

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<v Speaker 4>really did clean up the city streets and made New

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<v Speaker 4>York City a place people wanted to live with their

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<v Speaker 4>families in.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, no one is saying that this guy was

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<v Speaker 2>perfect or didn't do anything wrong. He's a politician, so

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<v Speaker 2>people take plenty of issues with plenty of what he did.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a reason he was called America's mayor. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason for that. And he did perform in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that we have seen rarely people step up in

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<v Speaker 2>times of that kind of catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I'm mentioning all this because of the high,

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<v Speaker 2>of the incredible high that he had.

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<v Speaker 1>Roase he ran for president. Yes, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>thought he could have easily been president.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I think a lot of people were hoping he

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<v Speaker 3>would be president.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the guy he even if folks don't remember this, Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the legendary prosecutor who prosecuted the mob in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, right, bringing down this guy. So he had

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<v Speaker 2>everything going for him there, Robes, until for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>his president Trumpet reputation took a turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on Yeah, Robes who you hang with, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Has hurt his reputation in such a way that people

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<v Speaker 2>almost forget that he was America's mayor.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that that's a good point. You and

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<v Speaker 4>I have had this conversation, We've even said, what has

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<v Speaker 4>happened to Rudy Giuliani. He truly was somebody that, regardless

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<v Speaker 4>of your political affiliation, up until I believe, really to

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<v Speaker 4>a certain point recently, people could look at him and say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, politics aside. He was a good mayor,

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<v Speaker 4>he was a good politician, he was a good man.

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<v Speaker 4>And then just in the last six years, it has

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<v Speaker 4>all gone to hell. His reputation has I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know how to describe it, but it has been a

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<v Speaker 4>disastrous and steady decline.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure some he has his supporters, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has people on the rights and Republicans who will been

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<v Speaker 2>to him to the end for what he has done,

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<v Speaker 2>what he said, and will even say they believe as

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<v Speaker 2>well that the twenty twenty election was rigged and stolen. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Rugiani has been taken to court countless times over making

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<v Speaker 2>that false claim. It's that serious, and he has continued

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<v Speaker 2>and continued and continued robes and not let that go,

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<v Speaker 2>that defamation case, because you see these two little black

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<v Speaker 2>ladies down there just trying to do their poleworking, and

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<v Speaker 2>America's mayor is telling us they are the biggest criminals

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<v Speaker 2>that need to be hauled off to jail because they're

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for rigging the damn election. This okay, if you

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<v Speaker 2>believe that, you believe that, but overwhelmingly most people did not.

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<v Speaker 2>And Robes those types of stories. That's all it's been

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<v Speaker 2>about him in another courtroom, out of a courtroom, he

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<v Speaker 2>had lawyer issues. He was stretching out the defamation case.

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<v Speaker 2>He remember, It's just it hasn't been a positive headline

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<v Speaker 2>and everything flies in the face of what he was

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<v Speaker 2>to us. He helped the public, he uplifted the public.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on the side of the people, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has aligned himself with a guy who doesn't always get

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<v Speaker 2>that same reputation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a very nice way to n Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he was disbarred in twenty twenty four. That is just

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<v Speaker 4>that that speaks volumes. All right, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 4>we will tell you what President Trump and what the

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<v Speaker 4>former mayor of New York had to say about Rudy Giuliani.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ,

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<v Speaker 4>where we are watching and waiting to hear word about

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<v Speaker 4>what is happening with Rudy Giuliani. He has been listed

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<v Speaker 4>in critical but stable condition. He was hospitalized on yesterday. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>excuse me. We heard from his spokesperson describing his condition

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<v Speaker 4>and asking America for prayers for America's mayor. And we

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<v Speaker 4>also heard from President Trump, who put this out on

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<v Speaker 4>True Social upon word that Rudy Giuliani was hospitalized, saying,

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<v Speaker 4>our don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to preface it. You don't want to preface it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had him preface it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is typical Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Typical Trump has taken advantage of a moment and a

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<v Speaker 2>situation that maybe people are paying attention to to make

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<v Speaker 2>once again a claim that has been debunked and debunked

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<v Speaker 2>into that he inserted this robes into this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not shocking, it's not shocking.

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<v Speaker 4>And then, as we were talking about before break, the

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<v Speaker 4>moment he inserted is the moment that has led to

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<v Speaker 4>the absolute and complete catastrophic downfall of Rudy Giuliani's career

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<v Speaker 4>and reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt that at the bare minimum, before you

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<v Speaker 2>read this, I felt we should at least say, y'all

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<v Speaker 2>got to hear this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know what, I appreciate that. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 4>that preface. That was duly needed. So I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 4>That was that was that was good for folks to

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<v Speaker 4>have that. Going into the statement, all right, here's ed

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump. Our fabulous Rudy Giuliani, a true warrior and

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<v Speaker 4>the best mayor in the history of New York City

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<v Speaker 4>by far, has been hospitalized and is in critical condition.

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<v Speaker 4>What a tragedy that he was treated so badly by

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<v Speaker 4>the radical left, lunatics democrats all and he was right

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<v Speaker 4>about everything that's in all caps. They cheated on the elections,

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<v Speaker 4>fabricated hundreds of stories, did anything possible to destroy our nation.

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<v Speaker 4>And now look at Rudy so sad exclamation point.

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<v Speaker 3>President Donald J. Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that suggest that Democrats killed him?

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<v Speaker 4>It does seem as though he is pointing his finger

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<v Speaker 4>at the lunatic left for creating, Yes, the condition that

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<v Speaker 4>Rudy Giuliani finds himself in. Now, some people would point

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<v Speaker 4>the finger directly at President Trump and say he's the

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<v Speaker 4>reason why Rudy Giuliani is in not just the physical

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<v Speaker 4>condition he's in, but the financial situation he's in as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to him, not looking at it, But

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<v Speaker 2>what percentage of that was spent talking about something other

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<v Speaker 2>than Rudy Giuliani. It's and I get it, and it's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>and people might support it and say yes, miss Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and the in favor and it's just typical Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>That's no reason to be trying to break that down.

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<v Speaker 4>We should end on a more positive note because the

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<v Speaker 4>former mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, actually did

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<v Speaker 4>put out something very kind about Juliani.

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<v Speaker 3>He wished Giuliani strength.

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<v Speaker 2>Another former mayor who was also once facing federal indictment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what did he have to say? You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>should preface every statement. It's good because we need the

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<v Speaker 4>context every time. Sorry for folks who don't know Eric Adams, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>he was Giuliani strength, good health, and a full recovery,

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<v Speaker 4>saying that this moment rises above politics, which I would

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<v Speaker 4>concur We would hope that people could do that despite

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<v Speaker 4>how they might feel about Giuliani personally. He is struggling

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<v Speaker 4>right now significantly. Eric Adams went on to say, from

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<v Speaker 4>his years as a federal prosecutor to leading New York

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<v Speaker 4>City through its darkest day on nine to eleven, he

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<v Speaker 4>stood with this city when it needed him.

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<v Speaker 3>Most.

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<v Speaker 4>Public service at that level demands sacrifice, resilience.

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<v Speaker 3>And an unwavering commitment to the people you serve.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's just lauding what Giuliani did for the City

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<v Speaker 4>of New York and asking for folks to put politics

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<v Speaker 4>aside and join him, and and praying for the mayor's health.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me say first, Mayor Eric Adams has not

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<v Speaker 2>been convicted of anything and that indictment, that case was dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me say that first. Second, I will say, well done, Robes.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the right tone. That's the tone we're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from. Yes, the highest office in the land.

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<v Speaker 2>But Robes, that was the exact right tone. No matter what,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a human being. He has a family around

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<v Speaker 2>him and they're hurting. That's just a part of just Robe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a human being. You should your heart should go out.

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<v Speaker 2>Other part of that, Robes, A little bit of us

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<v Speaker 2>should also be upset because this guy did mean a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to this country in a very important time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to give him credit for that. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to discuss other things in this moment, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's up to you. But I think Eric Adams

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<v Speaker 2>hit it right. This moment is above politics, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>just acknowledge that we hope this guy is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and we all certainly hope for his quick and

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<v Speaker 4>speedy recovery. We'll, of course keep our eye on this

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<v Speaker 4>developing story, but we always appreciate you listening to us.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone. I'm Amy Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes, and we will

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<v Speaker 3>talk to you soon