Speaker 1: Hey, that folks.
Speaker 2: It is Monday, May fourth, and America's mayor is in
Speaker 2: a Florida hospital and in critical condition.
Speaker 1: This morning.
Speaker 2: With that, we welcome you to this episode of Amy
Speaker 2: and TJ getting up to this news rogues. A lot
Speaker 2: of people might have missed overnight, but Rudi Giuliani apparently
Speaker 2: he's in pretty bad shape in the hospital, and we
Speaker 2: don't exactly know why.
Speaker 3: We don't exactly know why.
Speaker 4: There's no official word on what sent him to the hospital.
Speaker 4: We only have word that he is in critical but
Speaker 4: stable condition. And if you look at the headlines and
Speaker 4: you start to see the reaction from folks who are
Speaker 4: already putting out statements, it almost appears as though we're
Speaker 4: witnessing someone dying. I mean, that is the tone that
Speaker 4: you're hearing from folks. It's almost like people are printing
Speaker 4: his obituary already just because and I shouldn't say just because.
Speaker 4: I mean, he is in the hospital, possibly fighting for
Speaker 4: his life right now. But this seems to be fairly
Speaker 4: significant and scary.
Speaker 2: Look, this is the guy we have seen for the
Speaker 2: past several years, and every time we see him publicly,
Speaker 2: be honest, he doesn't look like he is in the
Speaker 2: best of health. Still, he's an eighty one year old
Speaker 2: man who has been through it has certainly been through
Speaker 2: a lot over the past several years.
Speaker 1: That's just period. We understand.
Speaker 2: What comes with this robes is when you hear an
Speaker 2: eighty one year old man is in critical condition in
Speaker 2: the hospital. You don't know when he went in the hospital.
Speaker 2: You don't know why he win the hospital. So it
Speaker 2: leaves a lot of questions. I know a spokesperson put
Speaker 2: out a statement in rob of this, I guess kind
Speaker 2: of said what needed to be said, but it didn't
Speaker 2: give us a whole lot one way or another, did it.
Speaker 4: No, we didn't get a lot of details. I'll go
Speaker 4: ahead and read it for you right now. This came
Speaker 4: from his spookesperson late on Sunday. He said, Mayor Rudy
Speaker 4: Giuliani is currently in the hospital where he remains in
Speaker 4: critical but stable condition. Mayor Giuliani is a fighter who
Speaker 4: has faced every challenge in his life with unwavering strength,
Speaker 4: and he is fighting with that same level of strength
Speaker 4: as we speak. We do ask that you join us
Speaker 4: in prayer for America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and.
Speaker 2: Do I have right we don't have any indication. We
Speaker 2: just got a word he's in the hospital in critical condition,
Speaker 2: but was there any indication of when how long he
Speaker 2: might have been in the hospital.
Speaker 3: Here's what we know.
Speaker 4: His last show on X was on Friday, so I
Speaker 4: didn't realize. He is a very busy former mayor. Not
Speaker 4: only does he have a role in Homeland security, he
Speaker 4: has a streaming show called The Rudy Giuliani Show, and
Speaker 4: he has America's Mayor Live on X and so he
Speaker 4: did a show on Friday, and you could hear in
Speaker 4: his voice that it was really raspy, and so he
Speaker 4: even said, my voice is a little under the weather,
Speaker 4: so I won't be able to speak as loudly as
Speaker 4: I usually do. And if you listen to his broadcast,
Speaker 4: he's coughing throughout the broadcast. Now, he streamed his The
Speaker 4: Rudy Giuliani Show that's on Lyndel TV on Wednesday, but
Speaker 4: it was noted he's missed several episodes in April and
Speaker 4: the last time he worked a five day week was March.
Speaker 4: So it appears as though he had some sort of
Speaker 4: respiratory virus, some sort of illness that.
Speaker 3: Was dogging him in.
Speaker 4: The month of April, and he still was able to
Speaker 4: go on and do his shows periodically, but not as
Speaker 4: regularly as he had been doing them.
Speaker 3: And on Friday he sounded like he was in tough shape.
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe this had maybe this had been coming
Speaker 2: he finally got into the hospital. Now, Robesy, you helped
Speaker 2: me with some clarity here as well. Most of the
Speaker 2: headlines I saw said critical, did he? And then of
Speaker 2: course I saw an update to a critical butt stable?
Speaker 2: Was it always critical but stable? I couldn't tell if
Speaker 2: his condition changed from just critical to critical but stable.
Speaker 3: Something doesn't sound like it changed. It changed, Okay, I
Speaker 3: think it.
Speaker 4: Was always when he got in there, he was in
Speaker 4: critical condition. And look, when you have an eighty one
Speaker 4: year old man who has had some of the health
Speaker 4: issues he's had, and certainly the emotional mental issues, I'm
Speaker 4: sure that he's been dealing with a lot of legal
Speaker 4: troubles in addition to his workload.
Speaker 3: As an eighty one year old.
Speaker 4: When you have an eighty one year old having respiratory issues,
Speaker 4: that can be life threatening for sure, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the guy you mentioned. Other I
Speaker 2: can't recall the other health issues but I do remember,
Speaker 2: I mean everybody recalls and remembers and saw the hell
Speaker 2: all almost his life has been since twenty twenty and
Speaker 2: a particular election that he got caught up in and
Speaker 2: caught up ines Besides President Trump, is there anyone who
Speaker 2: was louder who was screaming louder publicly that that election
Speaker 2: was rigged and stolen than Rudy Giuliani.
Speaker 4: No, it was President Trump first and Rudy Giuliani second,
Speaker 4: and so yes, I didn't realize, so I knew that
Speaker 4: charges against him in Georgia were dropped to election subversion,
Speaker 4: but he is still facing criminal charges in the state
Speaker 4: of Arizona, which he's pleaded not guilty. To remember the
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty eight million dollar defamation lawsuit that
Speaker 4: he lost to those Georgia election workers who they have
Speaker 4: been trying for the past several years to get paid
Speaker 4: in some way, And he's had to sell things, and
Speaker 4: he was trying to hide things according to them, like cars, a.
Speaker 1: Car involved a car from an actress or something.
Speaker 3: You want to give it up.
Speaker 4: But I think he ended up actually able to keep that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so he's been going through all of those
Speaker 4: legal woes he was disbarred in July of twenty twenty
Speaker 4: four because of his efforts to challenge the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: election results. And he was hospitalized in August after he
Speaker 4: had a pretty serious car accident in New Hampshire where
Speaker 4: three others they were all sent to the hospital. So
Speaker 4: he was still recovering from. Look, when you're eighty years
Speaker 4: old in a massive car accident, that does a number
Speaker 4: to your body. And then I hadn't realized. I asked
Speaker 4: you if you had known this seither that Trump appointed
Speaker 4: him in June to an advisory council role inside the
Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security, So he still has a role
Speaker 4: within the government, and he's got these shows that he's
Speaker 4: putting on at least he tries to do five days
Speaker 4: a week while he's battling some pretty significant legal challenges.
Speaker 4: And again we mentioned his age, so he has a
Speaker 4: lot on his plate and he's now yes, severely ill.
Speaker 3: We just don't know what actually sent him to the hospital.
Speaker 1: And it's.
Speaker 2: People feel all kinds of way about this guy. But
Speaker 2: this guy could do no wrong, and it's.
Speaker 1: Too bad.
Speaker 2: It's difficult that the conversation around this guy who was
Speaker 2: Robes was He not the hero political hero of nine
Speaker 2: to eleven, if I know, there's not supposed to be
Speaker 2: victors or somebody that's trying to win, but Robes even
Speaker 2: George W. Bush and some compliments he got for how
Speaker 2: he handled we could still see him with that bullhorn
Speaker 2: down there right at ground zero. But Mayor Giuliani performed
Speaker 2: pretty admirably. By that's a consensus opinion almost about him
Speaker 2: after nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: He was the strength that not only New York City needed,
Speaker 4: but I think that the entire country needed and looked to.
Speaker 3: I wasn't living in New York at the time. I
Speaker 3: was in DC. Where were you on nine to eleven?
Speaker 1: I was in le Rock, Arkansas?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: And still did you not feel so connected to the
Speaker 4: city of New York, and specifically connected to the mayor
Speaker 4: of that city, Rudy Giuliani. When he spoke and he
Speaker 4: got in front of those cameras, I felt a little safer.
Speaker 4: I felt like we were going to be okay, that
Speaker 4: New York was going to rise again under his leadership,
Speaker 4: and certainly did.
Speaker 3: Crime was down.
Speaker 4: I mean, he had a unbelievable track record as mayor
Speaker 4: from nineteen ninety four to two thousand and one. He
Speaker 4: really did clean up the city streets and made New
Speaker 4: York City a place people wanted to live with their
Speaker 4: families in.
Speaker 2: And again, no one is saying that this guy was
Speaker 2: perfect or didn't do anything wrong. He's a politician, so
Speaker 2: people take plenty of issues with plenty of what he did.
Speaker 2: But there's a reason he was called America's mayor. There's
Speaker 2: a reason for that. And he did perform in a
Speaker 2: way that we have seen rarely people step up in
Speaker 2: times of that kind of catastrophe.
Speaker 1: Robes.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm mentioning all this because of the high,
Speaker 2: of the incredible high that he had.
Speaker 1: Roase he ran for president. Yes, a lot of people
Speaker 1: thought he could have easily been president.
Speaker 3: Right, I think a lot of people were hoping he
Speaker 3: would be president.
Speaker 2: This was the guy he even if folks don't remember this, Robes,
Speaker 2: he was the legendary prosecutor who prosecuted the mob in
Speaker 2: New York, right, bringing down this guy. So he had
Speaker 2: everything going for him there, Robes, until for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: his president Trumpet reputation took a turn.
Speaker 1: Depending on Yeah, Robes who you hang with, and it.
Speaker 2: Has hurt his reputation in such a way that people
Speaker 2: almost forget that he was America's mayor.
Speaker 4: And I think that that's a good point. You and
Speaker 4: I have had this conversation, We've even said, what has
Speaker 4: happened to Rudy Giuliani. He truly was somebody that, regardless
Speaker 4: of your political affiliation, up until I believe, really to
Speaker 4: a certain point recently, people could look at him and say,
Speaker 4: you know what, politics aside. He was a good mayor,
Speaker 4: he was a good politician, he was a good man.
Speaker 4: And then just in the last six years, it has
Speaker 4: all gone to hell. His reputation has I don't even
Speaker 4: know how to describe it, but it has been a
Speaker 4: disastrous and steady decline.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure some he has his supporters, and he
Speaker 2: has people on the rights and Republicans who will been
Speaker 2: to him to the end for what he has done,
Speaker 2: what he said, and will even say they believe as
Speaker 2: well that the twenty twenty election was rigged and stolen. Well,
Speaker 2: Rugiani has been taken to court countless times over making
Speaker 2: that false claim. It's that serious, and he has continued
Speaker 2: and continued and continued robes and not let that go,
Speaker 2: that defamation case, because you see these two little black
Speaker 2: ladies down there just trying to do their poleworking, and
Speaker 2: America's mayor is telling us they are the biggest criminals
Speaker 2: that need to be hauled off to jail because they're
Speaker 2: responsible for rigging the damn election. This okay, if you
Speaker 2: believe that, you believe that, but overwhelmingly most people did not.
Speaker 2: And Robes those types of stories. That's all it's been
Speaker 2: about him in another courtroom, out of a courtroom, he
Speaker 2: had lawyer issues. He was stretching out the defamation case.
Speaker 2: He remember, It's just it hasn't been a positive headline
Speaker 2: and everything flies in the face of what he was
Speaker 2: to us. He helped the public, he uplifted the public.
Speaker 2: He was on the side of the people, and he
Speaker 2: has aligned himself with a guy who doesn't always get
Speaker 2: that same reputation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a very nice way to n Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 4: he was disbarred in twenty twenty four. That is just
Speaker 4: that that speaks volumes. All right, when we come back,
Speaker 4: we will tell you what President Trump and what the
Speaker 4: former mayor of New York had to say about Rudy Giuliani.
Speaker 4: Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ,
Speaker 4: where we are watching and waiting to hear word about
Speaker 4: what is happening with Rudy Giuliani. He has been listed
Speaker 4: in critical but stable condition. He was hospitalized on yesterday. Yesterday,
Speaker 4: excuse me. We heard from his spokesperson describing his condition
Speaker 4: and asking America for prayers for America's mayor. And we
Speaker 4: also heard from President Trump, who put this out on
Speaker 4: True Social upon word that Rudy Giuliani was hospitalized, saying,
Speaker 4: our don't.
Speaker 1: Want to preface it. You don't want to preface it.
Speaker 3: I had him preface it.
Speaker 1: This is typical Trump.
Speaker 2: Typical Trump has taken advantage of a moment and a
Speaker 2: situation that maybe people are paying attention to to make
Speaker 2: once again a claim that has been debunked and debunked
Speaker 2: into that he inserted this robes into this moment.
Speaker 3: It's not shocking, it's not shocking.
Speaker 4: And then, as we were talking about before break, the
Speaker 4: moment he inserted is the moment that has led to
Speaker 4: the absolute and complete catastrophic downfall of Rudy Giuliani's career
Speaker 4: and reputation.
Speaker 2: I just felt that at the bare minimum, before you
Speaker 2: read this, I felt we should at least say, y'all
Speaker 2: got to hear this.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know what, I appreciate that. Thank you for
Speaker 4: that preface. That was duly needed. So I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: That was that was that was good for folks to
Speaker 4: have that. Going into the statement, all right, here's ed
Speaker 4: President Trump. Our fabulous Rudy Giuliani, a true warrior and
Speaker 4: the best mayor in the history of New York City
Speaker 4: by far, has been hospitalized and is in critical condition.
Speaker 4: What a tragedy that he was treated so badly by
Speaker 4: the radical left, lunatics democrats all and he was right
Speaker 4: about everything that's in all caps. They cheated on the elections,
Speaker 4: fabricated hundreds of stories, did anything possible to destroy our nation.
Speaker 4: And now look at Rudy so sad exclamation point.
Speaker 3: President Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 1: Does that suggest that Democrats killed him?
Speaker 4: It does seem as though he is pointing his finger
Speaker 4: at the lunatic left for creating, Yes, the condition that
Speaker 4: Rudy Giuliani finds himself in. Now, some people would point
Speaker 4: the finger directly at President Trump and say he's the
Speaker 4: reason why Rudy Giuliani is in not just the physical
Speaker 4: condition he's in, but the financial situation he's in as well.
Speaker 2: I was listening to him, not looking at it, But
Speaker 2: what percentage of that was spent talking about something other
Speaker 2: than Rudy Giuliani. It's and I get it, and it's fine,
Speaker 2: and people might support it and say yes, miss Trump
Speaker 2: and the in favor and it's just typical Trump.
Speaker 1: That's no reason to be trying to break that down.
Speaker 4: We should end on a more positive note because the
Speaker 4: former mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, actually did
Speaker 4: put out something very kind about Juliani.
Speaker 3: He wished Giuliani strength.
Speaker 2: Another former mayor who was also once facing federal indictment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did he have to say? You know, you
Speaker 4: should preface every statement. It's good because we need the
Speaker 4: context every time. Sorry for folks who don't know Eric Adams, Yes,
Speaker 4: he was Giuliani strength, good health, and a full recovery,
Speaker 4: saying that this moment rises above politics, which I would
Speaker 4: concur We would hope that people could do that despite
Speaker 4: how they might feel about Giuliani personally. He is struggling
Speaker 4: right now significantly. Eric Adams went on to say, from
Speaker 4: his years as a federal prosecutor to leading New York
Speaker 4: City through its darkest day on nine to eleven, he
Speaker 4: stood with this city when it needed him.
Speaker 3: Most.
Speaker 4: Public service at that level demands sacrifice, resilience.
Speaker 3: And an unwavering commitment to the people you serve.
Speaker 4: So he's just lauding what Giuliani did for the City
Speaker 4: of New York and asking for folks to put politics
Speaker 4: aside and join him, and and praying for the mayor's health.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me say first, Mayor Eric Adams has not
Speaker 2: been convicted of anything and that indictment, that case was dropped.
Speaker 2: Let me say that first. Second, I will say, well done, Robes.
Speaker 2: That was the right tone. That's the tone we're supposed
Speaker 2: to hear from. Yes, the highest office in the land.
Speaker 2: But Robes, that was the exact right tone. No matter what,
Speaker 2: this is a human being. He has a family around
Speaker 2: him and they're hurting. That's just a part of just Robe.
Speaker 2: That's a human being. You should your heart should go out.
Speaker 2: Other part of that, Robes, A little bit of us
Speaker 2: should also be upset because this guy did mean a
Speaker 2: lot to this country in a very important time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we have to give him credit for that. If
Speaker 2: you want to discuss other things in this moment, fine,
Speaker 2: and that's up to you. But I think Eric Adams
Speaker 2: hit it right. This moment is above politics, and let's
Speaker 2: just acknowledge that we hope this guy is going to
Speaker 2: be okay.
Speaker 4: Yes, and we all certainly hope for his quick and
Speaker 4: speedy recovery. We'll, of course keep our eye on this
Speaker 4: developing story, but we always appreciate you listening to us.
Speaker 3: Everyone. I'm Amy Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes, and we will
Speaker 3: talk to you soon