1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I mean, this is uh you talk about outrage. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm insulted, offended, appalled by what we heard. It should 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: be a celebration, but unfortunately somebody had to ruin it 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: with some postgame commentary. We will get into all of 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: the controversy coming up here in just a couple of 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: moments from now. It is the Dan Patrick Show here 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Oh no, I'm Jonas Knox. He's 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: LaVar dramatic. That guy over there is Brady Quinn. You 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: cannot hang out with us as always on the iHeart 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Radio app and wherever you are making us a part 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: of your Monday morning. Happy Labor Day to you and yours. 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna take you all the way up until noon 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: Eastern time nine am Pacific, and LaVar before we you know, 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: just go ahead and I'll have a fun discussion here 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: and make light of a controversy that shouldn't be a controversy. 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Let's just go ahead and get this out of the way. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Here we go. It's a celebra ration time. Let's get 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: out of the way. There you go, Brady, there you go. 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Are gonna get them all fired up that Brady Quinn, 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Come on, Brady no Quinn, you you've got to play 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: both the Notre Dame and Penn stated we'll let you 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: have this on you guys big time. Well, I don't 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: know about a big way, right, Hue. I think I 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: think it was. If you're gonna have a game like that, mask, 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: it's best to come out on top of U. Well, 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: it was. It was a bigger loss for Florida State 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: than it was a big win for number nine ranked 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I mean, right, but but things at this point, 30 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you can throw them out the way outside 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: of Alabama, of Alabama shooting number one by floridaway right 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: now based on how they looked. Hey, but what's crazy 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: is is Florida State actually looked like Florida State last night. 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta be honest with me. Miss field goals, yes, yes, 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: that was good. They were good enough for a miss 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: field goal to matter. Um. I mean, if you really 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: think about they hooked, they pushed it wide left. It 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: usually historically it was white right, which I thought was 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: very peculiar that they did not even set it up 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: or high. They were so busy talking about Buddy's leg 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: and his leg and his need. They talked about it 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: for an entire the entire time he was in the game, 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: the entire time. Not not what plays he made, not 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: what it meant to the game or whatever. It's just 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: all about the kids. Leg. I thought it was going 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: to be interesting for them to parallel that moment of 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: the game to all of the like those you're talking about. 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: Notre Dame kept Florida State from winning national national title 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: off of some of these miss kicks right, and they 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: didn't say anything about it. The Miami Florida State games 51 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: were always wide right, wide left. It always said why 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: it came down to it, um, But that was that 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: was Notre Dame. Like they're a famous moment in time 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: where Florida State misses and loses the note. So they 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about Mackenzie Mountain's you know return to action. 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big moment of our I don't 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: know why you're so heartless about it. Why we need 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: to execute those people? Come on, people who did not 59 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: say that, They didn't say that there was a lack 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: of execution on that moment. It was a miss moment. 61 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: They needed to execute the people that didn't do it. 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you about that quote. Yes, 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: I was more offended by the fact that coach Kelly 64 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: used a quote from a USC head coach than I 65 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: was with what he said, Like that was more offensive. Look, 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I heard they didn't even take the plane back. They 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: didn't need to apparently the game, you know, I just 68 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, is this is this the world we live 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: in now? I understand we're all soft. Everyone's offended, but 70 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: come on, Like, if you don't know history, you don't 71 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: know the background of it, go educate yourself, you know, 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: go educate. And I think for most Notre Dame fans, 73 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: their perspective is we were up eighteen. We were up eighteen. 74 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Florida State did nothing, nothing to come back into that 75 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: football game. I hate to rain on their parade. There 76 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: was a lack of execution. There was a lack of 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: defensive play called LaVar. I know you watched the game. 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: There had to have been a point where Florida State 79 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: continually ran the ball down their throat and you're looking 80 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: at Notre Dame playing with a five man box, five 81 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: man around the line of scrimmage to stop the run. Well, 82 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: obviously they're gonna run the football down your throat if 83 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: that's your defensive game plan by Marcus Freeman. So there 84 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: was a lot of reasons. I think you could look 85 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: at that game and say Notre Dame gave a lot 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: of that away. The Michael Mayer drops early on a 87 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: third down late in the game too, where I would 88 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: have put them in position to end it in regulation. 89 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: There was a lot of things I think you could 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: look at and go there instances where Notre Dame could 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: have put that away and they didn't. The fact that 92 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Florida State hung in there. Credit to them, credits to 93 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: Mike Norvell. But I think I think both sides are 94 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: looking at that film today probably pretty disappointed some of 95 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: the execution. Yeah. Well, I'll say this. Out of everything 96 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: that I didn't remember from that game, Kyl Hamilton is 97 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: a name that I will remember from that name from 98 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: that game. I haven't seen a guy and I love 99 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: doing this because people get so upset when I do it. 100 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: It was Sean Taylor ESQ. Yeah, to go from one 101 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: like if you understand football, for a kid to have 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: the savvy, the awareness, the understanding, and then the athleticism 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: and the ability to do what that kid did on 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: that play where he was on the opposite hash. He 105 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: was oppos to safety and quarters. He was planning the 106 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: opposite HASH, red the quarterback all the way through, turned 107 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: the jets on because the quarterback was committed to doing 108 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: what he was gonna do, and got a pick on 109 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: the opposite side sideline and then took his helmet off. 110 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: It was so you wish it was so you wish 111 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: it was as you wish as it gets, and it 112 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: was in a Notre Dame uniform. But let me tell 113 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: you something. That kid is a guy. He is a guy. 114 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I was so impressed with him. Man, he just kept 115 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: showing up well, and he has since he got to 116 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I remember seeing him a couple of years 117 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: ago as a freshman and I told people then, I said, 118 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: he's gone, and enjoy him while you got him, because 119 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: he's gone in three years. He's he's got those natural 120 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: ball and stinks. And that's the funny thing. Is that 121 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: particular play he bailed out the cornerback on that side 122 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: of the field. Yes he did, because he'd undercut it. Yeah, 123 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: and it usually never happens like it never happens where 124 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: the backside safety is running across the field, like maybe 125 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: the safe field on that side of the field because 126 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: he's got his quarters deep. You know, this deep quadrant 127 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: of the field. You never see that. So the way 128 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: he played, honestly, I think, kind of build out Marcus 129 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: Freeman at times. You know, it really did. If you 130 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: look at that debut four Notre Dames defense, which I 131 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: think if you look at their old defensive coordinator Clark 132 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Lee went to Vanderbilt, they just lost to East Tennessee State, 133 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: I think so maybe wishes he could come back at 134 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: this point in time, But I just that game as 135 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: a Notre Dame fan as much as you're happy to 136 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: come away with a win, and there's some things to 137 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: build off of. Clearly Jack Cone, the way he played 138 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: the downfield passing game, what about Kevin Austin. What about 139 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: some of these receivers. They've gotten out that they can 140 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: stretch the field vertically, There's something to be said about that. 141 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: But concerns about the old line going into the game 142 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: still coming out of it defensively. All that, there's there's 143 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of things to work and I think for 144 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: a team that has aspirations to get back to the playoffs, 145 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I just love that they keep giving the acc that work. 146 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Just keep giving them the work. Just oh yeah, we'll 147 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: let you in for one year. Cool, we're in your 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: championship game and we beat Clemson last year, and then 149 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: they open up this year and they beat Florida State. 150 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: By the way, the bomb be Bowden fedor on the field. 151 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 1: Nice touch. That was awesome. Now you mentioned the Brian 152 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Kelly comments. So John McKay had a legendary quote years ago. 153 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: I think this is when he was the coach of 154 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when they were owing sixteen. They 155 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: were a winless football team, and John McKay said, they 156 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: asked him, so what do you think of your team's execution? 157 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: He said, I'm in favor of it? All right, So 158 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: one of one of the great all time coach lines 159 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: in history of football. But um, Brian Kelly afterwards spoke 160 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: with ABC and tried to give his version of it, 161 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: but it came out like this, I'm in favor of execution. 162 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe our entire team needs to be executed after tonight, 163 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we just didn't execute very well. Just thinking 164 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: fell in love with trying to play on execute it. Look, 165 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: it's it's it's but there are gonna be people. He 166 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: looked into her eyes. He was trying to It was 167 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: really funny. He was really trying to like charm her 168 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: and shoot us out at her. And it was a 169 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: bad moment. It was like one of them Joe moment 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: he want to get looking up at her, Katie George 171 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: is tall man. Yeah, he was more like, look, he 172 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: was all looking up in her as like I just 173 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: want to kiss you. I just I just want to 174 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: kiss you in the face and the mouth not going 175 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: to go that far. I just think we've we've gotten 176 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: to a point where like you can't try to be funny, 177 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: you really can't, because everyone gets offended by something Like 178 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: I think in that instance, you just give credit to 179 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: the opponent and then you you compliment Mackenzie Milton. You know, 180 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: they knew what he was overcoming to come into that game, 181 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: and they knew that like that was gonna be something 182 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: that you know, even the opposing you know, coach should acknowledge, 183 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: you know what he overcame to give himself an opportunity 184 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: to play and then jump into that game and that 185 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: spot and play well. Like I think it's the interesting 186 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: thing moving forward for Florida State is if you win 187 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: the game, the decision next week for who your quarterback's 188 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: going to be for Jacksonville State. No, no, no if 189 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: if If Florida State won, I think it's easy. Yeah, 190 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: But because they lost, now I think you have to 191 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: look back and go all right. I mean, Jordan Travis 192 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: did help get us, yeah, and and Mackenzie Milton helped 193 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: as well. But regardless whoever starts next week, you know 194 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna ball like they're playing against a lesser opponent. 195 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna play well. So it's almost like 196 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: whatever decisions they make, they're gonna have to ride that 197 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: out for a little while because of who their opponent is. 198 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: I think how good that guy is going to look. 199 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: So I just think that would have been more of 200 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: the you know, give credit storyline everything else to it 201 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: to a team that played him tough and maybe the 202 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: spirit of Bobby Bowden was there. You know. It's funny 203 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: my mom hit me up before the game. I completely 204 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: forgot about this because we had talked about Bobby Bowden 205 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: before we played him my freshman year and we got 206 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: absolutely drummed. Back in two thousand and three, that came 207 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: to South Bend. What happened. Crafonso Thorpe I think set 208 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: a single game record for like receiving yards against US. 209 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: One of the bull Wears was doing like those backflip 210 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: things you linebackers do. I just actually, I'll never forget 211 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: in Blitz pick up one of our running backs. I 212 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: think it was Ryan Grant. He went to take on 213 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: a lineback and the dude just jumped over him. Like. 214 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: I was like you, I'd never seen anything like that before. Um. 215 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: But after the game, my film right here, you go, Yeah, 216 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: the same. You're right, You're right, you are right. But 217 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Bobby Bowden sent me a letter. H He had a 218 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: handwritten letter and just kind of told me to keep 219 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: my head up, keep working hard. You know, he could 220 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of see that, you know, the greatness and all that. 221 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: So it was it was just cool to be able 222 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: to Like, my mom helped me relive that. She's the 223 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: one who kept that note I completely forgot about. And 224 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: so before the game she called me and just we 225 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: had a quick conversation. She was kind of reading through 226 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: it and she was like, you know, what a special 227 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: man to be able to recognize that in another another 228 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: player on another team, Granted they won, so it's kind 229 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: of probably easy to write that letter. But that's what 230 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: I think should have been the conversation after the game, 231 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: at least for coach Kelly. Yeah, agree with that. I 232 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: think that's a great take on it. And you know, 233 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: for what it's worth, we could break down to x's 234 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: and those. We could talk about aspirations and and what 235 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: what's to come and what they need to work on. 236 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: But all in all, that was a win that wasn't 237 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: a tremendous win for college football. Man. Yeah, yeah, because that. 238 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, on a on a holiday 239 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: evening where you get to hang out and and do 240 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: different things. I mean, my house is all over the 241 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: place right Like, everybody started in front of TV watching football. 242 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, you got people out on the 243 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: on the back playing Monopoly. You got people over here 244 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: playing you know, video games. You got people over here, 245 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, eating food. Yeah, I got that many people. 246 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for the invite here that Brady. It's a little 247 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: little harder for me to get there. Yeah. I did 248 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: some really really nice chicken. I made some nice chicken. 249 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: I baked it first, and then you know, I Honey 250 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: did Honey barbecue did up with my special honey barbecue mixture, 251 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: and then I let it sit in the refrigerator for 252 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: about twenty five minutes, and then I then I grilled 253 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: it up and I put it on some rice. So 254 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: it was like it was really good. Uh. But but 255 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: I digressed. The point of the matter is is that 256 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: there were so many different things that could have took 257 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: place after you had an entire slate of games that 258 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: were exciting. That Georgia game, Georgia Clemson game exciting. There 259 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: were so many exciting football games that had taken place, 260 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, the day before heading into a Sunday game, 261 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: and you get inundated with thinking that, oh, there's no 262 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: NFL on, you know, like I'll find something else simple 263 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: to do. Ditta die blaise blah. A couple of games. 264 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: Come on. You're watching this game, and you watched all 265 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: four quarters. Yea. And that's why you even had the 266 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: chance to even get upset at hearing Chip Kelly the 267 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: hair coach Kelly here, Well he's not upset at all. Uh, 268 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: But to even hear those quotes to begin with, Like, 269 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: let's take a step back and let's just look at 270 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: the fact that Florida State and Notre Dame being in 271 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: a competitive game and a prime time slot delivered. Yes, 272 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: it was a delivery. I mean it would have been 273 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: nice if it would have delivered. You know, minus seven 274 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: and a half would have would have been that would 275 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: have been always come back to betting with Yeah, that 276 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: would have been sweet, wouldn't it. That's the frustration for 277 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: all those laid the seven points or seven a half. 278 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: You know where you were is when they were up eighteen. Yeah, 279 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: you were beside yourself with the defense with just I 280 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: mean it was just like listen, I understand the humidity. 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: Michael Mayer looked like his pants were no longer gold 282 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: like like it looked like that. That's one of those 283 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: days where you could just go ahead and let it 284 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: go like you had to go to that's the secret. 285 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: That's the secret, Leavar. Like a lot of those guys 286 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: when they were out there in those gold Aunt's baby, 287 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: they just let it go. Yeah, Leavar, Man, that tells 288 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: why you go to Notre Dame, hold on to be 289 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: able to just go man, it's safe. Hey if so, 290 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: let me ask you this because I had a number 291 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: of bets out. If you and me are betting between 292 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: Penn State, Notre Dame playing one another, obviously one side's 293 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: gonna be favored. Are you betting straight up or you 294 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: giving points? Oh that's a good one because a bunch 295 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: of these Florida State guys were like, no, I want 296 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: the points. I was like, so you're going that straight up? 297 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: Anytime I would bet anybody, Like, oh, you're talking like 298 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: if we're boys and we're betting. Yeah, yeah, No, I'm 299 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: betting straight up. I'm not giving you no points because 300 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: like that, to give points is to qualify that we're 301 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,119 Speaker 1: better or you're better, and I want the points. Like, nah, 302 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm betting you like we're gonna beat you. So Brian 303 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: McFadden Danny Knell, both Florida State of lums, we had 304 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: separate bets and they both want to points. And I'm like, man, 305 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: that really sits well with you, like you winning a 306 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: bet even though your team loss. Yeah. Good. So we 307 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: had two separate bets. There was a bet on the 308 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: point spread and there was a bet straight up. And 309 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: so the bet straight up is those guys have to 310 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: wear my jersey doing some TV hits coming up here 311 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: the next week or so. I gotta find a way 312 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: of getting my jersey to both of them, but we'll 313 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: figure it out. It is the Dan Patrick Show, LeVar Arrington, 314 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: Rady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here on a Fox 315 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. You can hang out with us as always 316 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. But coming up next, let's not 317 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: bury the lead here. This is one of the great 318 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: moments in recent sports history. We are going to get 319 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: into all of that for you. It's next here on 320 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan 321 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 322 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine 323 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 324 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot Com, 325 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 326 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream us live on 327 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. So the dominance continues, It continues, and 328 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: it apparently is not anywhere close to being over. We 329 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: will get into all of that here coming up in 330 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: just a couple of moments from now. It is the 331 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show here Fox Sports Radio. He's LaVar Arrington, 332 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: that guy's Brady Quinn, I'm Jonas Knox. She can hang 333 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: out with us as always on the iHeartRadio app and 334 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: wherever you are making us a part of your Monday morning. 335 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Happy Labor Day to you and yours, and we will 336 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: take you all the way up until noon Eastern time, 337 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: nine am Pacific. Here on Fox Sports Radio, a couple 338 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: of fired up D one superstars LeVar Arrington's Penn State 339 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: Nitney Lyons go into Camp Randall and get it done. 340 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn's Notre Dame Fighting Irish get it done against 341 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: Florida State. You guys got to be in a hell 342 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: of a mood coming into this week and this week here. Huh. 343 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: Fired up? Yeah, I wish I feel a little better 344 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, if it would have been one 345 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: of those deals where they came back to win, I 346 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: would have felt better about it. I think giving up 347 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: the lead that they did it was frustrating, especially as 348 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: when you're a touchdown favor, you're expecting to win, so 349 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: that's the hard thing for me. I would have really 350 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: liked to see them cover for some of the bets 351 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: that I had out there. Yeah, well, listen, I mean 352 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: that that's all right. I mean, but you did the 353 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: straight up bet um, and I like how you were 354 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: able to talk people into doing a straight up bet 355 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: and getting Florida State fans and not accept the seven 356 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: and a half points. I do like how you you 357 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: swindled them into making sure that you did a straight 358 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: up bed because you know, if they were smart asking 359 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: for the points. I mean that that was a smart 360 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: play by them, but you refuse to just give them 361 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: the points, and so you got them to do a 362 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: straight up bed and that's why they've got to wear 363 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: your jersey. I think that's a good move. Yeah, it's 364 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: kind of It's kind of pathetic though, that you could 365 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: brag about winning a bet even though your team lost. Yeah, 366 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: like that, That's where I draw the line around, Like, yeah, 367 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't make the bet. If if if my 368 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: team was like a twenty point underdog, I just you know, 369 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't make the bet. I wouldn't say I'm gonna 370 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: bet straight up. I just I'd be like, yeah, I'm 371 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: not gonna make the bet. I don't feel too good 372 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: about this. Um well, speaking of blowouts, Um, when's Alabama 373 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: not gonna be good? Like? Is that ever gonna happen? 374 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: Is Alabama? Yeah? Like this, it's it's unbelieving to fall 375 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: off the face of the planet. When Nick Saban leaves. 376 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: But until then, get used to it. They're unbelievable man. 377 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: And and look, you gotta give Brady Quinn credit. He 378 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: was on the air, Um I thought he was, well, 379 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: I listen, I'll be honest with you. I thought, man, 380 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: you gotta get a life. He actually sat and watched 381 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: the Alabama spring game and came on the air afterwards, 382 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: this true story. It came on the air afterwards when 383 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: we were working radio together on Fox Sports Radio and said, listen, 384 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: I know I watched the spring game. I know, I 385 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: know news gonna get his balls broken. But came out 386 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: and said, Bryce Young's gonna be the Heisman Trophy winner. 387 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Said Bryce Young, I'm telling you he's the next big, 388 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: next star quarterback in college football. And we are one 389 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: game into the season, Brady, and he looks legit like 390 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: the real deal. So round of applause because you actually 391 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: called that, you called your shot. I gotta give you credit, man, 392 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, hold on now, hold on, hold on weekend. 393 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: Brady is a super brilliant mind, no doubt about it. 394 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: But dude, Bryce Young has been lighting it up for 395 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: a while. Yes, in high school football, not just high 396 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: school football, on a national schedule in high school football. 397 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean to come out of the Monarchs program, how 398 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: to modern day is highly touted. They were saying that 399 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: he basically is probably the best quarterback to ever leave 400 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: modern day. And you get some time to go Google 401 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: or Wikipedia quarterbacks from modern day. They got a pretty 402 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: good good stable of guys. So going to to Alabama, 403 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: going to Alabama, what what did we say? They have? 404 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: How many? How many years of the top number? What 405 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: did you say? It was, Brady, it's nine of the 406 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: last eleven and the two years they weren't they were 407 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: second and fifth. And actually it actually gets worse if 408 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: you go back even further. I think through fourteen years 409 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: they've never been outside the top five. They weren't number one. 410 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: As far as recruiting class, yes, yes, let me last 411 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: year's class was the highest ever since they've been ranking 412 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: these recruiting classes. Let me give you, like an example, 413 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: like let me give you a visual. Right, that's like 414 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: being in pitch black darkness, right, and every other team 415 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: you're jumping off of the roof of a home and 416 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: you're you're hoping that you land in a hot tub. Right, 417 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: You want to land in the hot tub, not get 418 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: jacked up. Not miss the hot tub, right, Yes, this 419 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: is like jumping off of a roof and there's an 420 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: entire deep sea ocean beneath you. You you're not going 421 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: to miss. You jump. I know I'm hitting water. You jump. 422 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: Some of these other programs, you might hit concrete, right, 423 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: you are not. Alabama is a can't miss program at 424 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: this point in time. It's not about what Alabama's gonna do. 425 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: It's about what other players are going to do when 426 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: they realize they're never going to play for Alabama. That's 427 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: that's to me, that's more of the storyline that's surrounding 428 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: Alabama because all of these kids can't play, Brady. You 429 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: ever hear the story You ever hear this? This this 430 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: theory that coaches will recruit and get high draft or 431 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: HI high recruiting classes, star kids, and some of them 432 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: they have no intentions of playing. They just get them 433 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: on the team so that they don't have to play 434 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: against them. Did you ever hear that theory? They stash them, 435 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: they stay right, of course, It isn't that the craziest thing, Like, 436 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I have no intentions of playing all of these guys, 437 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get as many of them as I can, 438 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: because I don't want them to go somewhere else and 439 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: develop at a rival at a rival school, competitive school. Well, 440 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: and it works for Alabama because you Showcad Jalen Hurts, 441 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: Mac Jones and Twa Tonga Voloa. Yeah, and because obviously 442 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback position is the most important. And I think 443 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: if you could convince guys to say, look, you don't 444 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: need to come here and play more than one year 445 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: in order to be a first round pick and in 446 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: order to be a starter week one in the NFL 447 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: as a rookie, because Mac Jones is doing it. You know, 448 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: Ta Tonga Vloa was able to play through injuries and 449 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: go and do it. I mean, they've got every recruiting 450 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: pitch you could imagine. And oh, by the way, we've 451 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: won six to the last twelve national championships, so that 452 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: kind of plays a factor too. But here's the reality 453 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: is the comments I made about Bryce Young had nothing 454 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: to do with modern day. There's plenty of kids who 455 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: have been highly recruited. I mean, Spencer Ratler's the betting favorite. 456 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: Djuenge Lay was the second favorite. Bryce Young is he's 457 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: the third. As far as odds are for the highest 458 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: in the least before one, and that had more to 459 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: do with what you're saying about Alabama than anything we've 460 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: seen from Bryce Young, because I would say this like 461 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: if you were watching college football this year, and I 462 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: think a lot of people would say this on social media, 463 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: which I hate to reference that, but there was some 464 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: truth to this. We built up a lot of quarterbacks 465 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: in the offseason and they did not look very good 466 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: in Week one, and then the truth is that's okay, 467 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: that's okay. But if this is where this young man, 468 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: if this is his starting point, what we saw him 469 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: do versus Miami, then it's scary to think what's to 470 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: come later on this season. I mean, they play Mercer 471 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: this weekend. Lord have mercy on Mercy, because that is 472 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: I don't know that Bryce Young will play more than 473 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: a quarter. I would be shocked if he played into 474 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: the into the second half at all, maybe even in 475 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: the second quarter, like it might look like he goes 476 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: thirteen for fourteen with three touchdowns. I mean literally in 477 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: the first quarter, and that's it. Get the next guy 478 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: in there so you don't potentially get him hurt. But 479 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: I just you know, there's something about this kid. I 480 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: said it on TV. He reminds me of Russell Wilson. 481 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: It's his poise, his accuracy, and he's not very tall 482 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: and obviously he's young, so he can fill out some. 483 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: But it's the way he maneuvers the pocket and his 484 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: feel for windows and everything else. He's like a weird 485 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: combination of I think what Russell was as a quarterback 486 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: and then a little bit of twa as far as 487 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: what he can do create, you know, creatively, to make 488 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: things happen if they're not there. But I don't again, 489 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna need to with the 490 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: talent that he's got out around him. The one thing 491 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: about Alabama is they consistently have created mismatches up front. 492 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, their offensive line is so dominant every single year. 493 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: It's never it's never truly ever that I can recall 494 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: been in questioning. Their defensive line always shows up and 495 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: you always have some round one, round round twos on 496 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: their defensive front. And we all know the games are 497 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: one in the trenches, and Alabama has done such an 498 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: amazing job of making sure that they're stockpiling the type 499 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: of guys and they get going early. Man, they get 500 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: them going early. I do. I do an eighth grade 501 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: all star game, and one of the kids that was 502 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: in our game was six three three quarters very brief force. 503 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: He's pushing six four, three hundred and twenty pounds and 504 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: he was yoked Jesus in the eighth grade. And he 505 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: had already been offered to Alabama. So he's fourteen years old. 506 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Probably he was fourteen at the time. He's a senior 507 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: this year sixty three. And how much here about him? 508 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: His name is Jaheim Otis. Look him up. But they 509 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: get these kids and they find them early. They find 510 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: them early. Man six three two three three twenty three 511 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: thirty in the seventh grade. Eighth grade in the eighth 512 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: grade was when I had him, and he would and 513 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean he was a pitcher. He was a I 514 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: want to say it was like a three a swing 515 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: three playing basketball kids an athlete, like like not six 516 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: three two or three twenty three thirty sloppy. I'm talking 517 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: like where, like like what you said when you saw 518 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: a K. Brady, Like where did you come from? I 519 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: need your birth certificate, your backup. I mean, I wasn't 520 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: trying to make any accusation. I need your driver's license 521 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: by and I was like, man, he looks like a 522 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: more grown ass. Man I do three kids over here? 523 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at him going and I don't 524 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: want any piece of that. Hey that kids in the 525 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: eighth grade. I say, look, we need your driver's licenses, 526 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: we need your birth certificates, the original copye, we need 527 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: your passport, we need everything that shows that you're over sixteen. 528 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: Kill It's uh, but this was not sixties, So what 529 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: is it? Just area scouting? Is that what this comes 530 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 1: down to. They've just got area scouts. That what it 531 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: comes down to is people seek you out when you're 532 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: the best. People want to be surrounded with the best. 533 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: And I don't want to win. And if Alabama is 534 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: not recruiting you, you look at yourself and go, what 535 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: am I doing wrong? So the minute they start recruiting you, 536 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: or somebody tells you, like like in this kid in Mississippi, like, 537 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: think about this fellas you think about blue chips. Right 538 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: when the way they found leon Neon Badot, Remember when 539 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: they found take a boat across that little cheers, make 540 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: a left where the second cow is that's eating near 541 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: the gate and all that, and then you'll see this 542 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: red barn he'll be in there. That's jaheemod like he 543 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: When we got him in the game, no one could 544 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: get a hold of the kid. He did no camps, 545 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: he made no public appearances. The only the only content 546 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: that you could see or find on him was him 547 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: with UH coach Saban. That was the only content you 548 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: could find on him. And we found him and we 549 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: got him to come to the game. I had him 550 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: at Penn State. We didn't get him. I think the 551 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: other thing about baman recruiting is it's validation. So if 552 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: you're if you're that high school head coach and you're 553 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: you could brag about it like, yeah, yeah, Nick Saban's 554 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: recruiting this player. This if BAMA is recruiting a player 555 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: on your team, now you could build your program. Yeah. 556 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: It validates you, especially for those programs that you know, 557 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: procreal schools, private schools that have the opportunity to recruit. 558 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: It validates you. If you create ate that pipeline to Obama, 559 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: it puts you on the map. So it works both ways. 560 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: And even though and I look, I know Nick Saban 561 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: and his staff and everything, everyone grinds, but if validates you, 562 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: I think as a high school, as a coach if 563 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: you've developed a high school kid, or use that as 564 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: your pitch to other kids to get them to come 565 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: to your high school. So it works both ways. And 566 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: I think the other thing is that he can pitch 567 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: as much as much as it's about the success they 568 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: have at the college level. You have two assistants who 569 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: are former NFL head coaches, and Bill O'Brien and Doug Brone, like, 570 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: do you want to come here and get coached by 571 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: NFL coaches? I mean, whether you stay Obama or not. 572 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: That in and of itself, for a sport that's highly developmental, 573 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: is huge because you go and take that wherever you go. 574 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: Even if you don't make it. Obama can transfer and 575 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: play immediately. You're gonna You're gonna get that coaching for 576 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: at least a year or two. So I just I 577 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: look at it and say, like, they've got everything working 578 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: for them, were even former NFL head coaches. We'll step 579 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: down a level and say, yeah, I'll go call plays 580 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: for Nick Saban to go through the car washer. I'll 581 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: go coach their offensive line. I mean, Brian Dable, who's 582 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: going to be a head coach, the play caller for 583 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills won a national championship that bounced right 584 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: back to the NFL, and it's now gonna be one 585 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: of the hot names that we'll get a head coaching 586 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: job after this season. It's Sam and we bring up 587 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: the coaches. The program at Alabama. Nick Saban's program there 588 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: is so successful that unhiable coaches become hirable again just 589 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: by being there. Think about it. Steve Sarkisian got fired 590 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: for being a drunk. He's now the head coach of Texas. 591 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: Mike Locksley didn't do real well at New Mexico State, 592 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: he goes, he goes there and now he's the head 593 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: coach of Lane. Kiffin got fired on the tarmac. He's 594 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: now the head coach at All Miss. Like like all 595 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: of these guys, Bill O'Brien's going to be head coaches 596 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: time and and Nick Saban has built such the program 597 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: and the process is so perfected with him. These coaches 598 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: are on borrowed time, and these players are on borrowed time. 599 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: You know what I love about Bill O'Brien. By the way, 600 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: come down to the college level. And because there's obviously 601 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: a concern anytime you've got a changing coordinator or somebody's 602 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: calling plays, but just to like come down to the 603 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: college level, kick your feet up and go, oh oh, 604 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: you think I'm a bad coach. Huh, let me just 605 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: show you a little bit how this works at the 606 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: college level with some of my scheme and some of 607 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: my ability as a playball. I mean, he dropped the 608 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: absolute hammer on man ideas and Miami to the point 609 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: where like, if I'm a defensive coordinator, I hope I 610 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: feel confident about my ability scheme wise, because you are 611 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: going to get abused by Bill O'Brien. And it's not 612 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: just the talent they have, it's the way they go 613 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: about scheming things open. I mean, Jamison Williams, the long 614 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: touchdown that Bryce Young thought of their own end zone. 615 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: As much as it's his speed that helps get them open, 616 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: it was also the bunch formation, the way they released 617 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: the coverage that Miami was in, and how they went 618 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: about getting him so wide open where you could have 619 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: put that ball like a punt out there and he 620 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: would have caught it and still be a run for 621 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: a touchdown behind. I just it's almost like these NFL 622 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: coaches are like, yeah, hey, next time, you guys want 623 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: to keep looking at these college coaches come to the 624 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: NFL level. Maybe there's a reason they keep recycling us 625 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: up at the NFL level because we come down here 626 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: and it's child's play. Because that's what it looked like 627 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: versus Miami. Unelievable. It is the Dan Patrick Show here 628 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, a Jonas Knoxlevar Arrington, Brady Quinn 629 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: with you here on FSR. Coming up next though, here 630 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: on the DP Show, there is some interesting comments. Somebody's 631 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: sticking up for one side of the football, and that 632 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: person might surprise you. We'll get into that for you 633 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: next here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks for listening to 634 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 635 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to 636 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find 637 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us 638 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Hey, it's Ben, host of 639 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller along with my trustee 640 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: sidekick David Gascon. Would mean a lot to have you 641 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what 642 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: in God's name is the Fifth Hour. I'll tell you 643 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: it's a spin off of that. Ben Maller Show, Colt 644 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: Hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture if 645 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: you will a world will We chat with captains of 646 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: industry in media, sports and more every week Explorer some 647 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: amazing facts about human nature and more. Let'sten to the 648 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: fifth hour with Ben mallerw on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 649 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Bet your ass 650 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: it is. It's the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox 651 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Jonas Knox, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn with you 652 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: here on FSR. By the way, later on this hour, 653 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: we are going to do a little something that we 654 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: normally do call the scraps um And somebody needs to 655 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: be called out because, look, I'm not the most intelligent 656 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: guy in the world, but I feel like it can 657 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: spell certain words. They're not that hard. And apparently that 658 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: was a difficult task for somebody in the World's truly, 659 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: truly difficult. Yeah, someone should be looking at re enrolling 660 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: back into some type of night school of some sort. Yeah, 661 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: that's yeah. I mean I don't even think it takes 662 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: that much. You know, just a quick Google search would help. 663 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: But we were here, you know, we were talking about 664 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: LeVar Burden you know what I mean eating rainbow. Yes, yeah, 665 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: the writing rainbow. Like I know, computers and stuff and 666 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: gadget do everything for us nowadays. I understand that. But 667 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: it is okay to be able to spell without using 668 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: just typing in the first couple letters and it's spelling 669 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: it for you. It is okay to spell, yeah, and 670 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: it is okay to learn um and a witch. Did 671 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: you hear Rob Nikovich speak? Yeah? Rob Nikovich, the former 672 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: Patriots player, was less non en if he was drinking. 673 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: It looked like he had an IPA. I mean that 674 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: looked like a sixtys aren't those aren't truth serums though? 675 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: I pas a fun serum? Yes, no, no, no no, here's 676 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: a problem. You just stepped into Jonas Jonas's world. Okay, 677 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: he loves IPAs. He will text me about IPAs, which 678 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: I could give two craps about his opinion on IPAs 679 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: or IPAs in general. He will tout the alcohol per 680 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: volume in an ipa just to make it sound like 681 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: when he had two. It's okay to for him to 682 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: start drunk texting you after two IPAs, because Jonas is 683 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: a bit of a lightweight. But no, Jonas Jonas, go on, Yeah, 684 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: tell us right it's a good buddy right there, good 685 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: buddy my radio wife for five years, right there, I 686 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: got your IPA right here, Pat alight something. So Rob 687 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: Nikovich was talking about the situation, and he said he 688 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: heard from somebody in the room quote unquote in the 689 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: building there and at Foxborough that said that Cam Newton 690 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: was being taught the playbook by Mac Jones, that Mac 691 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: Jones was teaching him the playbook, which, look, it makes 692 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: Cam look bad. They he talked about, you know, the 693 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: two minute drills and things like that and all of 694 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: that that came along with it. But Brady, I don't 695 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: understand the point of it, Like I don't understand the 696 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: point of Cam's already gone. They've made their decision. Now 697 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: they're moving on. It feels like we're piling on now, 698 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: like this is piling on. Well, Cam wasn't this, He wasn't. 699 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: Cam's gonna try and find a gig somewhere at some point, 700 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: whether it's a starting job, which seems like a long 701 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: shot now, or he's going to be a backup somewhere. 702 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: It just feels like, instead of talking about all of 703 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: Cam's issues, people want to just continue to point back 704 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: to Dolly's flawed here. He's got this going on. It's 705 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: the vaccine, it's his throwing motion, it's all this other stuff, 706 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: and they I think they failed to forget or remember 707 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: this is a close decision and a close call for 708 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots. And as you pointed out, this is Cam 709 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: Newton that asked for his release because he wanted to 710 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: go somewhere else. Yeah, I think when people are sitting 711 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: there saying, well, you know, why is he a free 712 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: agent all that, I think it had more to do 713 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: with Cam now wanting to be there than maybe the 714 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: Patriots ask him him to go. Now, maybe they didn't 715 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: want to have to deal with a strong personality as 716 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: a backup. But again, if he doesn't want to be there, 717 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: they're not going to force him to be there. Look, 718 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: the reality is the running was on the wall. As 719 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: soon as they took mac Jones where they didn't in 720 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: the first round, you knew he was at some point 721 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: going to play this year. So it was only a 722 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: matter of time. And I think what Rob Nikovich and 723 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: others are trying to do is trying to make sense 724 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: of the decision for him to start and play now, 725 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: like that's the surprise thing is why now, you know, 726 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: are you drawing upon what happened with whatever happened, you 727 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: know during that COVID mishap, if you will, Is it more? 728 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: Did it more have to do with how he performed 729 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 1: and played in camp versus Mac Jones, who I had 730 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: a scout from the New York Giants who was there 731 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: for the joint practices between New England and and you know, 732 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: New York, and he said that he was unbelievable. He 733 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: was the best player on the field between the two teams, 734 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 1: was Mac Jones. He said, it was very apparent to us, 735 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: and so we weren't surprised after practicing against them the 736 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: type of you know player that he was or where 737 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: he's at. And the interesting thing about this is I'm 738 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: kind of believing it that he may have been helping 739 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: out Cam with some things only because of this. So 740 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: when mac Jones left high school he enrolled early at 741 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: Alabama in two thousand and seventeen, who is the offensive 742 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: coordinator at that time? It was Brian Dable. Brian Dable, 743 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: who came from New England, is running that system, terminology, etc. 744 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: And has worked with Josh McDaniels. So it's no surprise 745 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 1: that he probably had that system ingrained in the back 746 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: of his mind from spending more time over there over 747 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: a year, and then on top of it, they may 748 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: have kept a lot of those same concepts and things 749 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: that they're doing up in New England, given Nick Saban's 750 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: relationship with Bill Belichick. So I'm kind of buying it 751 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: that there might have been some things that Mac Jones 752 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: had said, Hey, this is kind of how I see 753 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: or this is how we did it, or this is 754 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: how you know, and maybe echoing some of the things 755 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels is just trying to instill in install 756 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: because Cam didn't get this type of offseason work with 757 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels until this year, which was the same time 758 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: as Mac Jones, which is somewhat of a level playing 759 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: field they had last year. Obviously, you know the game 760 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: plans and so forth, but again, it's it's a little 761 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: different when you actually go through an offseason install and 762 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: you're learning, you're actually learning the why behind a lot 763 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: of the plays within the offense. Can I ask a question, 764 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: and maybe this is a super super dumb question, is 765 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: it is it insulting for someone to learn from somebody 766 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: who's younger than them, because to me, I'm I learned 767 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: from high school kids. I've learned from middle school kids. 768 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: I've learned things from younger people throughout the course of 769 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: my travels in life, and some of the most profound 770 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: lessons I've learned from have been from people that are 771 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: younger than me. Brady's younger than me. I learned about 772 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: you know, Hard Selters. Brady's younger than me too. I'll 773 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: tell you what did you see that? Right, hooky? Not 774 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: only did he take a shout at you, but he 775 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: totally derailed my whole like all the sites so jonas 776 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: that he can jack everything up if I didn't know 777 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: about wine cool, there's you back right now, I've the 778 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: back the table for it's such a good point, you know, 779 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: but it's such a good it's like we're trying to 780 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: it's like to to try to make this into a 781 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: thing where you're questioning his intelligence. Ultimately comes back on 782 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: on the person who did it as really an indictment 783 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: on yours. Because if if the philosophy is is that 784 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: somebody has to be older or better than you to 785 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: be able to teach you, then my you have missed 786 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: out on what learning truly represents, right, Like when you're 787 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: talking about wisdom, now you get wisdom from older people 788 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: because wisdom is based off of experiences. Right now, if 789 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: Rob had said some stuff like you know, like Mac 790 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: is wiser, and here's why he's wiser and what it 791 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: is that he's doing, that's that's kind of a different conversation. 792 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: But to act as though like there's something that maybe 793 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: is wrong with Cam because Mac was able to help 794 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: him with the playbook or was able to give him 795 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: some clarity on how to run the two minute drill, 796 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: I just I just find it to be interesting because 797 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: in an attempt to maybe diminish or downplay what Cam represents, 798 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: you're only doing that to yourself. Like you had how 799 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: many good seasons as a player? How good were you 800 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: as a player? You know what I mean? Like like 801 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: when you start doing that, when you start calling out 802 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: and pulling out people's resumes and calling into question what 803 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: they're worth is you know, you got to be prepared 804 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: to understand that people are going to take a look 805 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: at you too. Like if Tom Brady said that, I'm 806 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna be like, hey, whatever Tom said, I'm writing with 807 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have the credibility of talking about 808 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: success the way that someone like Tom Brady does, but 809 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: not Rob I don't. I don't even know his name 810 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: real well, Yinkovic. I know he had some some good 811 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: moments for the team. I didn't even know if he 812 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: was still on the team or not on the team. 813 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was still in the league 814 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: or not in the league. Like, I don't even really 815 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: know him that well. I saw him do pretty well 816 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: at times. Is he a pro bowler? Is he let's 817 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: look him up as it is in all pro? What 818 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't believe? So? Was he? Was he a number 819 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: one draft pick? Was he? Is he a national champ? Like? What? What? 820 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: What is his accolades to be chumming it up and going, 821 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, into national news for a quote about how 822 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: he was helping or mac Jones was helping Cam Newton, 823 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it just seems kind 824 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: of strange to me. I'm with you on that. I 825 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: do think the narrative that you can't learn from someone 826 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: younger than you, uh is one that it is out there. 827 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: It seems like, especially in business. I think that's one 828 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: of the things like business leaders are really afraid of 829 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: They feel threatened by them, dude. Coaches feel threatened by 830 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: you're a player who brings up a good question, or 831 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: when he questions why you're doing something you don't have 832 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: an answer for it. That usually the reaction is like 833 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get mad or yell at this dude, instead 834 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 1: of being like, oh, maybe this kid might know something 835 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: or see it differently than I do and he can 836 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: explain it better than I can. Like, I think that 837 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: happens all the time and coaching. I'll say this though 838 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: about Rob because I know him a little bit, I 839 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: don't know that he was trying to come up malicious 840 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: with this. I think maybe, like everyone else, you're just 841 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: trying to make sense of it, because look, I was wrong. 842 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: I thought Cam Newton, no matter what, was gonna be 843 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: the day one start a week one. I thought that 844 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: gives them the best shot out of the gate. I 845 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: was wrong, And so I'm still trying to make sense 846 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 1: and rationalize why you know they wouldn't Like my question 847 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: is more this now, it's like, well, if you're gonna 848 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: do this, then why aren't we questioning Bill Belichick and 849 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: just releasing Cam Newton back during OTA's and letting Mac 850 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: Jones get all the reps, Like, why did you waste 851 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: any reps on a guy who's no longer going to 852 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: be with your team? Like is it because it's he's 853 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: so great, he's Bill Belichick that you can't do that? 854 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: Like we questioned it with Urban Meyer, and I realized 855 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, who's a former MVP and has been to 856 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, has had a much greater career than 857 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. But that's not the point of the conversation. 858 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: The point is reps, and the point is you're willing 859 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: to question one guy because he's just got to the NFL, 860 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: but you're not willing to question the other guy because 861 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: he's been arguably the greatest coach of all time. So 862 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's coming off in a malicious way. 863 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: And he may be one of those people who are like, yeah, 864 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I can learn something, or maybe 865 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: he's never learned something from someone younger than him. Where Look, 866 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: I learned stuff from my kids every day. My daughter 867 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: just told me that when dogs die, they turn into wolves. 868 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: She just had an elaborate conversations that Twilight don't worry 869 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 1: about that. Five years old. I was maybe I didn't. 870 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but but I guess I've got 871 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: to figure out what to do with our our dog 872 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: Bella when she passes, because she's gonna be looking to 873 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: eat you. And then that's scared her a little bit. 874 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: That scared her. I'll say this. I'll say this to 875 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: you because you've given me some perspective if he was 876 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: trying to explain too, because a lot of what people 877 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: were using as reasoning as to why Cam was going 878 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: to start was Mac may not be ready to go. Yeah, 879 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: Mac may not have a handle on on the offense 880 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: or have a handle on running the team the way 881 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: that he needs to as a starter. And it's not 882 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: like Cam played bad in the preseason. Yeah, but but 883 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: I guess if if to take the perspective of what 884 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: Brady just gave, maybe you can look at it from 885 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: the you know, the vantage point of I'm telling you 886 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: you can't use that reasoning as to why Cam should 887 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: be starting is that he's ahead of Mac Jones in 888 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: terms of he's been there a little bit longer, he's 889 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: got a season under his belt. If the guy is 890 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: actually understanding of the offense is so high that he's 891 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 1: actually assisting the starting quarterback with certain aspects of this 892 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: part of the offense, certain aspects of that part of 893 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: the two minute drill, then it's justified to say it's 894 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: okay to make a move forward into the future knowing 895 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: that Cam is not the future. We all know that 896 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: Cam was not going to be the long term answer 897 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: for this team. So maybe that's the perspective of it. 898 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm being a tap bit too, you know, 899 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: kind of hard on on Rob in terms of what 900 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: his accolades are to even come out his face like that. 901 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: But I mean, again, I don't think that there should 902 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 1: be any indictment or any type of saying there's something 903 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: wrong with Cam or someone who actually learns from a 904 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 1: younger guy about something that you know, can help them 905 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: with their career. You know, I just don't mean I 906 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: think if you're gonna be hard on anything, you know, 907 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: be hard on people who really go out of their 908 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 1: way to text you stuff about IPAs. Yeah, like that 909 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: would be that individual. It is the type of person 910 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: I don't you know what I mean that guy talk 911 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 1: about my I just show you just just a terrible 912 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: human being. Brady Quinn is oh, okay, okay, So let 913 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: me ask you this though, Brady, because you've talked about 914 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: this before that people don't understand for that that have 915 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: never played the quarterback position, how difficult it is to 916 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: learn a new playbook, like just just how much goes 917 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: into it. So if if Matt Jones sort of had 918 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: an understand of this playbook and had basically a four 919 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: year head start on this playbook, and Cam Newton just 920 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: got there last year, it stands to reason that Mac 921 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: Jones would know this playbook and this offense better than 922 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, right, I mean, I mean, if if they're 923 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: similar in concepts and Cam's been playing in Carolina for 924 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: however long he was there, ten years or whatever it was, 925 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: it's not that far fetched to think, well, of course 926 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: Mac Jones would know this offense better because he's been 927 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 1: around it longer. Yeah. And the other thing is about 928 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 1: offense is even if it's similar, terminology, like how Charlie 929 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: Weiss called plays and his philosophy when I was with 930 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: him at Notre Dame was different than when I got 931 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels in Denver, Like they looked at red 932 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: zone in a drastically different way. You know, Charlie's system 933 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: when you got down that portion of the field, you 934 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 1: would still run the football, but you were taking shots 935 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: play action shots what a lot of people would call 936 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: run action, where you're actually telling the offensive line to 937 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: block the run like they are literally trying to make 938 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: it look like it's a running play and to try 939 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: to fool LaVar. Yes, now there's play action, there's run action. 940 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: Down in that area of the field. We would have 941 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: run action because if they were gonna blitz, we knew 942 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: it was gonna be an all out blitz. So I'm 943 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: audibling anyway to a fifty protection, meaning like a seven 944 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: man max protection, and then I've got to check the 945 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: route so I get the ball out quick. But down there, 946 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: I was basically protected by the action of the actual 947 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: run blocking and my fake. My fake. If there's a 948 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,240 Speaker 1: guy free, my fake is gonna sell it so hard 949 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: that he's not gonna be about time to react before 950 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: I throw the football. And so that was Charlie Weiss's 951 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: philosophy with all these different pop passes we called him 952 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: that we had with Josh McDaniels. He liked to spread 953 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: it out. He would put you an empty and he 954 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 1: would say, I'm gonna put a running back or tied 955 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: end outside the outside formation, and that's going to tell 956 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: you whether it's man or zone, and it's going to 957 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: tell you whether they're pressure ring or not. And he 958 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: would literally just from that formation, and then you'd bring 959 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: him back into the backfield and based on what type 960 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: of coverage you were getting or pressure you were getting, 961 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 1: you would either go with the play you had, check 962 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,959 Speaker 1: to something else, check the protection, check the routes, all 963 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: of that. And so just in that one system where 964 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: all the terminology is the same, you can have different 965 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: philosophies of how you go about actually executing that offense. 966 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: And then mind you, you could have and the entirely 967 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: same philosophy but call it something completely different. You know, 968 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: like you use concepts and the numbers to essentially get 969 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: your play call out, and people use it for different things, 970 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: Like with Charlie Weiss's system of the New England system, 971 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot of times they'll use numbers, you know, zero, one, two, three, etc. 972 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: To create their formation. So zero is I write in 973 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: other offenses. So that that just gives you an example 974 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: of how different things can sound or be when you 975 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: run a basically a different language or a different offense. Yeah, 976 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: I just had this whole, like the whole conversation about quarterbacks. 977 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: We do have another little update here. David Coley of 978 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. He is the head coach of the Texans. 979 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,439 Speaker 1: What a dream job for him, by the way, dream 980 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: he got his coaching up. Tyrod Taylor has been named 981 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. So just a heads up there, Brady, 982 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, just so Tyrod Taylor is going to be 983 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for the Houston Tech. I mean, he 984 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 1: gives them the best he gives them the best chance. 985 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of respect for I think he 986 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,439 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't turn the football over. He's very 987 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: capable throwing, and he'll take off and hurt you with 988 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: his legs. So I think like they're a sneaky team 989 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: that when you look at that division, with the questions 990 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: in Indianapolish not knowing what to expect in Jacksonville. You know, 991 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: the third preseason game look great. The other two didn't. 992 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: Um they might they might not be as bad as 993 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 1: I think everyone's kind of anticipating, or at least maybe 994 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: maybe that's my anticipation. I don't know. So Deshaun's just 995 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna sit there, just gonna hang out. That's what's gonna happen. 996 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: Just gonna hang out, super super super well paid. Just 997 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: sit down and hang out. Just hang out. We're just 998 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna like I mean, hey, Brady, do you think that 999 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: they're waiting on something to hit to be able to 1000 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: go after the money and get back retroactive money, like 1001 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: in terms of if if this goes eight weeks or 1002 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: nine weeks before something hits or do you do you 1003 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: feel as though they're willing to let him sit and 1004 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: then come back and get the money after it comes out. 1005 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: I think what has to happen is they could technically 1006 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: get back some money or avoid out the guarantees if 1007 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: he's if he's charged, I think then they can go 1008 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: into that conduct detrimental to the team, and that's where 1009 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: I think this would go. I think the Texans don't 1010 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: want to move him now because they're not getting the 1011 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: offer for them that they'd like, and so they're willing 1012 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: to be patient because Nick Assario doesn't want to take 1013 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: a bad deal for a guy who's young under contract 1014 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: and it is prime that means they have to pay 1015 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: them then, So no, no, they're they're gonna pay them. 1016 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: But let's say, for example, uh, one some of these allegations, 1017 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,240 Speaker 1: some of these the civil lawsuits, the the the criminal 1018 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,399 Speaker 1: lawsuits turned into a charge. Yes, and he gets charged. Yes, 1019 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: That's where I think. Then do you think it will 1020 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: go after what he's going to miss or what he's 1021 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: going to get for these games? Saying there's there's that 1022 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: language in all those contracts where they might pay him 1023 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: and then come back and take back. Yeah. I also 1024 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: wonder though, if they're winning on a settlement because no 1025 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: one's done anything, yeah, like the NFL hasn't. Not that 1026 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: they necessarily need to intervene, but I think if you 1027 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: put them on the example list, it just cleans things 1028 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: up for the time being for everyone involved. And so 1029 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: my my only thought is they have to be thinking 1030 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 1: that there's the potential chance that there will be a 1031 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: settlement at some point in time, and they want to 1032 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: wait to see if they can't figure this out that way, 1033 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: because we know the legal system is going to take 1034 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 1: a long time. And so that's the only thing I've 1035 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: got in the back of my mind. I mean, does 1036 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,479 Speaker 1: de Shaun even show up to practices? Does he show 1037 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: up to practice? Does like when he's when he's at 1038 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 1: the games, where's he watching it from Like is he 1039 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, does he up in the press box? Is 1040 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: he on the sidelines? Does he does he dress for 1041 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: these games? Is he the the emergency quarterback? Like go 1042 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: to the stadium? I bet you he won't even go 1043 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,919 Speaker 1: to the stadium at all, at any point at all. Yeah, 1044 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want him to if on the team for 1045 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: this reason. Distraction. Well no, no, it's a distraction. But 1046 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: if he got hurt or did something like, they would 1047 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 1: kind of be libel, right, like it's on their property. 1048 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: Like I would almost rather him be away from the 1049 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: facility anything ever happened where they wouldn't be on the 1050 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: hook for it is It'll be right. I know it 1051 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: sounds that sounds grimy, but yeah, just yesh, Yeah, I'll 1052 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,280 Speaker 1: leave it alone. I mean, there's a plethora of reasons 1053 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 1: as to why he shouldn't be at the game, right, 1054 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, but then you get then you get concerned 1055 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: about like what he's doing in his free time. Yeah, 1056 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: if he's not there, Yeah, no, I mean you know, 1057 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: do you do you condition him like how they condition 1058 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: guys in college when they didn't practice. You know, the 1059 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't the a Brady, the the we know you 1060 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: can't practice because you're injured, but we're going to make 1061 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 1: sure we condition you in a way where you think 1062 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: about if injuring injuries are are better or worse than 1063 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: practice overrun them? Yea, and practice practicing injury injured is 1064 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: more important or better more feasible the risk versions reward, 1065 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm hurt. Do I say I'm hurt enough where 1066 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: I can't practice or do practice. It's like it's like 1067 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: the part of Billy Madison where he wants to stay 1068 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: home from school and the and and the aids as well. 1069 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: You could stay home and help me shave my arm pits, 1070 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, I'm going to school, Like 1071 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 1: he just realized the alternative was not something he was into. 1072 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: The air bike has made cowards of us all practice 1073 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: and practice conditioning. You have to worry though about like 1074 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: if there was an injury that occurred, then again the 1075 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: type of treatment he would be getting received. You know, 1076 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that is that, it is true. Yeah, I might 1077 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: need some soft tissue work. Got to be careful about that. 1078 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: Oh well, you know he was specializing and had the 1079 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: database of who could help that soft tissue situation right 1080 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 1: by the way I did. I did hear that one 1081 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: of the aliases he uses at hotel rooms is Charlie Horse. Oh, 1082 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: I got that, just wanted I did get that. Yeah, 1083 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: just that was the perfect time for for a sound bite, 1084 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 1: just honestly, for a sound effect of something or whatever. 1085 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, that was bad just so much. It was 1086 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: really it was really say, Michael Vickius, Ron Mexico, what 1087 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: do you want for me? Alright, that's true. Yeah, Lane 1088 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: Kippins got a joey fresh water. All right. So so 1089 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: Deshaan Watson uses Charlie horsewater sounds like I don't know, yeah, 1090 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: he sounds like a slimy guy in South Florida. I 1091 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 1: can actually fresh. I mean at least you would think 1092 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: that he's fresh. Yeah, not dirty. It's a good name. 1093 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: You know, if you if you said Johnny dirty water, 1094 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: that would that would hit differently Johnny depth, you know, 1095 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 1: death death water. Yeah, all right, it is the Dan 1096 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. He's of our Arrington. That guy's Brady Quinn. 1097 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm jonahs Knocks here on FSR. Coming up next though, 1098 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: there is somebody in the world of sports who, apparently 1099 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: um is not really good at spelling. We will have 1100 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: the latest on that next here on The Dan Patrick Show,