1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This was a very well strategized self campaign. Um, these 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: people have been planning this for years, and they've been 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: saying that they were planning it for years. This is 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: the thing about the Democrats and the entire neoliberal establishment 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: that surrounds them. This lack of psychological first cassidy, this 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: lack of recognition. If somebody shows you they're a jerk, 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: they're a jerk. Listen, it's time to be energized, it's 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: time to be active. That was the great Marianne Williamson 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: joining us here on two days podcasts. So by way 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: of background, I'll share more about who she is, but 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: the way in which we met it's gonna blow your mind. 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I'll share that story on the other side of the break. 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Every champion and every champion is to be a champion, 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: a champion and every chap and then carry chapion the 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: champion and carry chappion and carry chappion rates rates and 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: sports and entertain a connaked work in the world were 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: vulnerable considered, we come and remove the vail from entertainment elite. 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: It's a difference between what it's real and with the 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: public seat. So here's your favorite celebrities behind the scenes. 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: It's refreshing up. Then the whole story specific life all 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: to renivents to shake the person that you here. We 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: gotta champion and carry champion. They go, you didn't. It's 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: the greatest in sports and entertainment. Connaked with Harry Champion 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: and carry champions. To be a champion, the champion, they 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: carry Champion. They can Chappy the champion. They carry Champion 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: and carry Champion. Raateer, fraid of and sports and entertain 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Aking naked Warmer. So thank you guys for listening. I 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: have a very very personal story to share with you. 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: So last week I was on the East Coast and 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: if you follow me on social media, you saw that 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: I was posting about being in Philly and I was 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: also in New York and then I went to the 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: d C and then I came home and I and 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 1: I am a big believer that everything happens for a reason. 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I do believe that my steps are ordered. I do 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: believe that whatever happens to me is because that is 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: what is supposed to be the will in which God 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: has for me. And I say all that to say 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: that my time on the West Coast was supposed to 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: be for meetings to recalibrate what I was gonna do 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: now that our show has not is not going to 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: be on. Plus all these different things were happening. I'm 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: taking all of these different meetings. But the moment after moment, 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: I realized, I find myself in much more casual environments, 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: not meeting environments like Hi many, miss Carrie, shake your hand, 46 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: but in casual environments where I'm talking to change makers, 47 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: people who I want to see a different policy in 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: the world, people who create policy, people who are influential influencers. 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name drop, but it was a bunch 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: of folks that have over the years become a part 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: of my unor circle, people I consider friends, people I 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: admire from afar and now they're friends. And so that 53 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: past week on the East Coast really opened my eyes. 54 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: And I didn't know why I was having these meetings, 55 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: or if or why I was able to get audience 56 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: with some of these people. But one of them, and 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: a truly serendipitous moment was Mary Anne Williamson. I am 58 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: flying home from Washington, d C. I am sitting in 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: the wrong seat. I moved to the seat in front 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: of me. The woman who's sitting next to me was 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: moved her seat because she wanted a couple to sit 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: next to them, and it just so happens to be 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: best selling. All their political activists and spiritual thought leader 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: mary Anne Williamson. Now, if you are an OPRAH fan, 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: as I am, that is how I really I think. 66 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: I first met Mary Anne Williamson in the sense of 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: who she is and what she does. But over three 68 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: decades she has been a leader in spiritual and religiously 69 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: progressive circles. She has written fourteen books, four of them 70 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: have been number one New York Times bestsellers. Um, you guys, 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: remember our return to love. Our deepest fear is not 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: that we are inadequate it. Our deepest fear is that 73 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: we are powerful beyond measure. It is considered an anthem 74 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: for a generation, contemporary generation of thought seekers. Our greatest 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: fear is that we are amazing. And the older I get, 76 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: the more true I understand that statement, or that statement 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: seems to be more true for me. Uh. And while 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: I knew I was sitting next to her, I didn't 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: want to harass her. I didn't want her to be like, Okay, 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: don't bother me, Lady I'm doing my thing. But she 81 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: was so open. She was talking to me. She was like, 82 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And I was kind of reluctant 83 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: to talk to her a little bit, KG because I 84 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: know what it feels like to want to chill out 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: on the flight, if you've been on for a week 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: or two. I understand when you don't want to be bothered. 87 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: I try to respect people's privacy that are in always right, 88 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: not whether you're a note or not. I just try 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: to respect your privacy because I would like that same courtesy. 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: But because she was so engaging and she wanted to 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: talk to me, we talked about everything. We talked about life, 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: we talked about politics, we talked about love, we talked 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: about what's going on in the world. And this was 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: way before Row versus Wade, and by way before I 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: mean two days before no a day before, a day before. 96 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: It was Sunday night, um, and I said, I'll reach 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: out to you. I would love to have you on 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: my podcast. I know you ran for you know she 99 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: was on the presidential ticket in and I was like, 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: I know you ran for office in Will you be 101 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: running again? She doesn't know. But the point of the 102 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: matter is is that I was impressed by this fearless 103 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: woman who and I'm guessing maybe five too maybe, but 104 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: she packed some mighty mighty punch in her presence is powerful. 105 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: And the next day, while sitting at home watching Met Gala, 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: complaining about outfits that I couldn't even afford if my 107 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: life depended on it, I got the news the draft 108 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: was leaked. The draft was accurate, and it was leaked. 109 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: Roll versus Wade will be overturned. Um Conservative Court says 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: it is time to overturn Roe v. Waite. The Republicans, 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: the Conservatives, the conservative people, groups, parties name it have 112 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: all been waiting for this moment, and it's it's just scary. 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: It's scary. And if you're not scared, then you don't 114 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: understand the long term effects of what will happen. So 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: I called up Maryann and I said, listen, I know 116 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: I just met you on a Sunday, but the world 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: has changed within twenty four hours. Do you mind coming 118 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 1: on the podcast? And she said of course. Now little 119 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: oh me talking to this woman, And I thought, another sign, 120 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: another sign that someone who is really trying to make 121 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: a difference in the world really wants to commune with me, 122 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: to talk to me, to share with me. And I 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: thought to myself, this is amazing. I love this idea. 124 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: And today we talked about it all. We talked about 125 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Roll versus Wade, We talked about the Democratic Party versus 126 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: the Republican Party. She said that Obama failed in a 127 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: lot of way ease, and I know so many of us, 128 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: especially in the black community, love Obama, and you don't 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: want to hear about what he did not do because 130 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: of the fact that he was the first. He was 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: able to show us so much and give us so 132 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: much hope, and he serves such a beautiful purpose, and 133 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: he introduced us and gave us are forever first lady 134 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: in Michelle Obama, who, by the way, Marianne Williamson said 135 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: she could be president if she wanted to be. She's 136 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: smart enough to know better. Though Michelle, like, I can 137 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: keep on that, I'm not about to be out here 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: stressed out. However, I think she's the only person that 139 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: if in fact she wanted to go up against the 140 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: Republican Party, she'd be the only person that I could 141 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: beat Trump, because because that's what's happening, guys, what you 142 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: see happening in the world today, Elon Musk buying Twitter. 143 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: You when you see Roll versus Wade being overturned, when 144 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: you see the super rich aligning and essentially telling everyone 145 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: else they don't matter. They're making way for that man, 146 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: that Orange man, so that he can come back and 147 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: do the dirty work for all of them. This isn't 148 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: about left or right. This is about super rich versus 149 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: everybody else, super rich versus everybody else, and the super 150 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: rich people they are. It is a very tight collective community. 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: We know people with money, we know wealthy people. But 152 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: the people who can give you a billion dollars I e. 153 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Larry Ellison to buy or to help purchase Twitter. To 154 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, that's super rich. I don't have an extra 155 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: billion lying around and I'm not even getting into who 156 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: helped him purchase Twitter. But no, they don't look like us, 157 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: talk like us, think like us, the super rich versus 158 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: everybody else. But we've been distracted, and so here comes 159 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: Mary Ann Williamson. And while we may not all agree 160 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: with her politics, are the same things that are certain 161 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: things that she may say. That's just life. We won't 162 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: agree with everything everyone says. We all didn't agree with Obama. 163 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: We don't all agree with Bernie. We definitely don't agree 164 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: with Trump's asked, so I don't anyway. I'll speak of myself. 165 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: So we find ourselves in this very sensitive moment. Politically, spiritually, 166 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: um racially, all of the intersections of the world are 167 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: coming together, and now they are attacking women's rights. I 168 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: am a Christian, and I want to say this loud 169 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: and clear. I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ, 170 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: he is my Lord and Savior, and in my religion, 171 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: you should not abort. But that still doesn't mean that 172 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: I have the right to tell a woman what to do. 173 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: The problem is today we can't agree or disagree. We 174 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: can't put things in different boxes. We can't we can't 175 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: express ourselves because we have to take a side. And 176 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: that's where the super rich are learning to distract us. 177 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: So get a pen and paper, because Marianne takes us 178 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: to class. When I tell you, she's a true spiritual leader, 179 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: an activists, a mother, a nurturer, author, she's all the things, 180 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: and she's combining all of that into this beautiful message 181 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: to share with the world to ignite us. Because they, 182 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: whomever they may be, are ignited and if we don't 183 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: start feeling energized to do something to change the world. 184 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Whatever that looks like. Right on a small level, it's voting. 185 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: On another level, it's voting for the people in your district, 186 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: in your community. It's your mayors, it's your city council, 187 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: it's your governor. Right on a larger level, maybe you're donating, 188 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: Maybe you're giving money to a cause that you can 189 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: actually see the change coming from said cause. We all 190 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: can do something. It is time to be energized. We 191 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: can't sit back and complain. We cannot let apathy take over. UM. 192 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: I rarely go into the political realm in this podcast, 193 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: but I'm feeling the need listen to her thoughts on 194 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: what's happening in the world today and how we as 195 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: a people can change. Maryanne Williamson and Marian First of all, 196 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: what happened in the hours we met each other on 197 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: this From this Sunday we met each other to today. 198 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: The world has changed, Our whole conversation changed. It has 199 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: it really has. You and I had a sense so 200 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: we would meet again. We didn't know it would be 201 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: so soon. Obviously, the Supreme Court lake of the decision 202 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: to overturn roev away has changed everything. It's an earthquake, 203 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. It was interesting because I, first 204 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: of all, Um, I am a fan, and so I'm 205 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: letting our listeners know. And I set this up in 206 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast of how I've read several 207 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: of your books. I've always thought that you were special 208 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: and had a message for the world. And and I'm 209 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: sure you know that. Um, you ran for president, in 210 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: which I thought was so courageous, and you are fearless 211 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: to me in that capacity. But that's who you are. 212 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: That's what you've been born to do. But I never 213 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: thought that I would live in an age and I 214 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: would hear people say they're going to overturn ro versus weight. 215 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like it was I did insist the urgency, 216 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: did you, Well, yes, because I'm old enough to remember 217 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: when we didn't have uh legalized abortion. So I think 218 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: people of a certain age have long felt, Oh, younger 219 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: women don't know, they don't get it. They've never lived 220 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: in a time when they didn't have this legal right. 221 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: And you know, it changed everything sexually, it changed it 222 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: changes everything on such deep levels. Once women knew they 223 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: could get a legal abortion it. I think a lot 224 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: of the sexual revolution emerged from that. This will make 225 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: everything different, even in these deepest intimate regions of should 226 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I should, I will I won't I things that have 227 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: to do with most intimate aspects of our lives. Um. So, yeah, I, 228 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: along with anyone who remembers, knew that this was bigger 229 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: than a lot of younger people realized. Then let's go there. 230 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: When the time was you could not get an abortion legally, 231 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: what was that like? What was the idea or images 232 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: surrounded or thoughts about sex during that time? Well, I 233 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: wasn't in my sexual you know, I wasn't sexual yet. 234 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm not that old Carrie, come down, Come, You're like, 235 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm not. I was like in my mim and like, wait, 236 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: we had this conversation. It was it was enough that 237 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: I was, Um, I think it was nineteen seventy three. 238 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: I was born in nineteen fifty two, so I was 239 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: already sexually active. But the whole thing that happened with 240 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: the sexual revolution at that time, it just opened everything up. 241 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: You know, even before that discovery of the pill, um, 242 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: there are so many things that you know, I think 243 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Carrie of myself as anybody gets to a certain ages. 244 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: There's this phrase keeper of the story. I think there 245 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: are so many things which were different for better and 246 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: for worse before the nineteen seven and is before the 247 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. So yeah, I think the older you are, 248 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: the more you have a sense of the historical trajectory 249 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: that got us to where we are. What where did 250 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats fail? I read yourself, Stack and you and 251 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: you said this is a gross overreach. And I think 252 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: we can be outraged. I saw Elizabeth Warren was angry. 253 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: Everyone is angry, Um, but where did the where did 254 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: that we first see the cracks in the system towards 255 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court? When it comes to the Democrat Barack Obama, 256 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: Barack Obama said that he when he was running that 257 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: he would make the codification of Reproductive Rights a UM 258 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: a priority in his administration. He said that he would 259 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: do it, and then when he became president, on this, 260 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: as with a lot of things, he said, well, we 261 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't make a legislative priority. Then, as we know, when 262 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: he didn't um take the opportunity to appoint Merrick Garland 263 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: when he could have, he thought, oh, hello, is gonna win. 264 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: You know, people people say that apparently Barack Obama. I 265 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: thought Hillary was gonna win until the last minute, so 266 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: he said, you know, Hillary will a point who she was. 267 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned you carry because I live in Washington, 268 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: d C. People say it's a bubble. It's really more 269 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: of a feeling of a walled city. So I think 270 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: where a lot of people have been feeling like, um, 271 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: this is dangerous. We should prevent this, we should do things. 272 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: There's this sense living in Washington, d C. Oh, we 273 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: can handle this or that will have the Supreme Court. Um. 274 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: So the Democrats failed us entirely on this issue. And 275 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: I think that if more women were in office, it 276 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been uh, seeing as such a lower priority. 277 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: The court is conservative. Trump pushed in three of his 278 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: his appointees, which is unheard of, and we watched and 279 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: people were not outraged at that moment. There were a 280 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: small group who were very aware, but I think by 281 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: and large, the world was so distracted with everything that 282 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: was happening with Trump. He is the master of chaos, 283 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: and because he created so much chaos, many of us, 284 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: myself included, I didn't understand the significance of pushing in 285 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: three appointees. What did that. Do you know what that 286 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: did was to guarantee that they could do things like 287 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: they've done right now. This was a very well strategized 288 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: self campaign. Um. These people have been planning this for years, 289 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: and they've been saying that they were planning it for years. 290 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: This is the thing about the Democrats and the entire 291 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: neoliberal establishment that surrounds them. This lack of psychological perspicacity, 292 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: this lack of recognition. If somebody shows you they're a jerk, 293 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: they're a jerk. I mean stop. You know. It's like 294 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: Susan Collins now is saying, I just can't believe that 295 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: Brett cavan All lied to me. Excuse me, you can't 296 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: believe that he lied to you. So UM. And even 297 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: now I find with Joe Biden, he doesn't seem not 298 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: overly concerned. He's not talking about you know, they could 299 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: break the filibuster, he could use the bullet bully pulpa 300 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: to UM fight for that. You see the anger on 301 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: the part of people like Bernie, like Elizabeth Warren, like 302 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: Kirsten gillibrand. UM. But the powers that be, even within 303 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, to really go for them. Go to 304 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: the map right now, UM helps not coming from from there, 305 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: and you said something that I think is important. The 306 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Republicans have been very clear, I I call it. They've 307 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: been very gangster. They're like, this is what we're doing. 308 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: Watch just do it, unapologetic, no questions asked, um, and 309 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: if you have a problem with it, do something. There 310 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: are no rules for them, so everything is on the table. 311 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: So if they could in the world that we live 312 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: in right now, overturn Roe v. Wade, what's next? What 313 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: everybody is talking about in your what could it be? Oh, 314 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: that could make uh, they could make gay marriage illegal. 315 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: They could make all kinds of trans trans rights illegal. 316 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they could really start coming after things, um, 317 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: one by one. You know, the Republicans abuse power, but 318 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: the Democrats, the Democratic establishment doesn't use the power that 319 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: it has. Barack Obama had a supermajority. Barack Obama had 320 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: a time with the supermajority. It could and what he 321 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: could have done if he had actually chosen once he 322 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: was president to be the president that he told it 323 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: was told us he wanted to be in two thousand days. 324 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: The problem is is that I feel oftentimes the Democratic 325 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: Party believes in the good of people, or at least 326 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: they want to think that they do well. Then they're 327 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: like Joe always talks about his friends that he's been 328 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: on the hill with three years. These are his friends, 329 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: I know exactly exactly that exactly that well. Actually, I 330 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: think that really line applies more to Bernie Sanders, who 331 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: keeps talking about my friend Joe Biden. How many times 332 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: your friends betray you before you stop calling them your friend? Correct? 333 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: But you know it's interesting these people, you know, the 334 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: Democratic elite, consider themselves such psychological sophisticates. They consider themselves 335 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: such intellectual sophisticates. Anybody who's ever dated a jerk knows 336 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: any I mean, you know, anybody, when are you going 337 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: to grow up, wise up and get that this is 338 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: who this person is and this is how this person 339 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: is going to act. That's whether it has to do, 340 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: by the way, with the Republicans or with Vladimir Putin. 341 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: You lack of psychological perspicacity that is involved in politics, 342 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: and when anyone talks about how we need to start 343 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: applying our deeper psychological understanding of people and events, they 344 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: call that unsophisticated, They call that unqualified for leadership, when 345 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: really that should be the main qualification for leading US 346 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: into a new era or pairing new generation. That's the 347 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: main qualification because if you're able to understand people who 348 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: they are at at some some level, you know how 349 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: they'll move, you know how they there, they will choose, 350 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: how they will make decisions, and how it will affect you. 351 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: And you just said it. Anybody who's dated a jerk, 352 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: a guy jerk or a female jerk, apply to any 353 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: relationship worked for a jerk. You know, once they show you, 354 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: they show you. So I'm looking at a group of 355 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: women who are concerned. Um. I talked to a couple 356 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: of Mintis in their twenties. They're like, what does this 357 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: mean for me? Um? What is this fight? If you 358 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: can look into the future, what type of what type 359 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: of leadership are you looking for for this country? To 360 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: what what's going to stop Trump? Because as we can see, 361 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: they're putting every single every single card, they're putting everything 362 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: in position to make sure that this man can have 363 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: another shot. And if not him, then rand Randa Santas, 364 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: who I think that's pretty much almost as dangerous. It 365 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: just as dangerous as dangerous. Agree with that? Well, the 366 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: democratic establishment thinks that we rise them off money, we 367 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: can beat them but that's kind of absurd. Hillary Clinton 368 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: naturally raised quite a bit more money than UM than 369 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: Donald Trump did, so I don't believe that Joe Biden 370 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: would defeat Trump. I don't believe Kamala Harris would defeat Trump. 371 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't believe any of the establishment Democrats would defeat Trump. 372 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: I don't either, And I think one of the reasons 373 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: they wouldn't defeat Trump is because they have proven during 374 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: the time that Biden has been president that they're not 375 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: willing to actually present to the American people a start 376 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: contrasting agenda to the corporatus agenda of the Republicans. I 377 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: believe that our country is like a ship that is listing. 378 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: It is almost full on its side. When Franklin Mozabout 379 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: was president, he and Eleanor Roosevelt talked about transitioning from 380 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: the alleviation of distress to fundamental economic reform. The Democrats 381 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: the Republicans obviously don't care how many millions of people 382 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: are suffering. They don't care. The Democrats wring their hands 383 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: and they say they care, and they give a little here, 384 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: a little there to address the pain on the periphery, 385 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: but they are not willing to challenge the underlying forces 386 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: that make the perpetuation of that suffering inevitable. Now, the 387 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: majority of American people are with us. The majority of 388 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: American people want fundamental economic reform. The majority of American 389 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: people want Medicare for all. The majority of American people 390 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: want free college. The majority of American people want to 391 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: hire minimum wage. The majority of American people want at 392 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: least the substantial cancelation of the college loan debt. The 393 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: average American gets it that the majority of Americans are 394 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: being squashed. Here, that our government now, rather than supporting 395 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: the dreams of the majority of Americans, are actually passing 396 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: policies that squash the dreams of the majority of Americans. 397 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: Even the issue of race, racial equity, racial justice. The 398 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: average American, just the average American, even the average um 399 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: uhn servant, it gets, you know, we really need to 400 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: do something, and all you're gonna do is make Juneteenth 401 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: a holiday. Even even there are righteous, high minded conservatives 402 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: who do get something's going on in the police forces. 403 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: They're they're not people. The American people are not stupid. 404 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: They understand about the infiltration of the proud wars of 405 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: the oathkeepers of the police of what is this with 406 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: its unarmed Black people are not stupid, but we have 407 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: a political corporatous agenda, neoliberal establishment, where corporate money holds 408 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: hostage our government to such an extent that the government 409 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: itself has become a system of legalized bribery. And that's 410 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: why when we do see things like little sprigs of hope, 411 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: you know, little greens shoots coming up from the ground. 412 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: Christian Smalls unionizing at Amazon is an example of that. 413 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: The unionizing going on at Starbucks is an example up 414 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: all of that. I hope that the wind of Nina 415 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Turner would be an example of that, but the machine 416 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: crushed her and they progressive establishment abandoned her. Yeah, it's 417 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: if you are not. And I think what I've been 418 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: able to watch and what we've been talking about for 419 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: my friends who cover politics and the people who are 420 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: who are on this beat, there is such a resistance 421 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: to challenge the status quo um in both parties if 422 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: we're being honest, because everyone knows that they're afraid of 423 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: Trump and they feel like if you cross him in 424 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: whatever way possible, that ruins your career. And then there 425 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: are those like an AOC who is bold and says 426 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: things that really fire. I mean, she has a cult following, 427 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: and she really fires people up, and she polarizes people. 428 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: But there's power and some of the things she says. 429 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: And I'm a realist, I don't think everybody's gonna get 430 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: it right. If if I ran for office, I won't 431 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: get You're not gonna agree with everything. I say. That's fine. 432 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: If the same for you, it's fine. But the reality is, 433 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: is there some sort of fear to challenge and push 434 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: hard and come together and work is one I don't 435 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what we are to do. If I 436 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: had to look, I wouldn't want to choose either party 437 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: and and and then there brings in this voter apathy. 438 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: But we must remain diligent. So is there hope? Well, 439 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: I believe hope is a moral imperative. But the situation 440 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: is very gnarly and very complicated. It's worth noting that 441 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: the first two presidents of the United States warned us 442 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: against political parties. There's political parties are not mentioned in 443 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: the Constitution. Isn't it interesting that we have six brands 444 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: of tooth bases and only two brands of political Canada? Correct, 445 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: So the political parties have have put a chokehold on 446 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: the process. Abolition came from the Abolitionist Party, Women's suffrage 447 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: came from the Women's Party, Social security came from the 448 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: Socialist Party. Historically, third party voices were very important, they 449 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: were vital. Real movements forward and social justice did not 450 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: come from the major parties. Today, however, there is not 451 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: only a a an effort to delegitimize and peripheralize and 452 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: silence even third party voices within the Democratic Party, there 453 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: is a vicious determination to sideline and to suppress real 454 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: progressive voices, which is insane. Well, it's insane politically because 455 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: this is where young people are. This is I mean, 456 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: young people are like, what is global capitalism ever done 457 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: for me? Young people are saying this system isn't working 458 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: for me. So what they're doing is they're projecting onto progressives. Now, 459 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: who are the progressive? Progressive people are those who are 460 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: supporting the things that the majority of Americans want, Medicare 461 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: for all, another, it's fundamental economic reform, Medicare for all, 462 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: free college um, cancelation of the college loan debt, higher 463 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: minimum wise. This is what progressives are standing for. This 464 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: is what the Jordan people want, which should translate into 465 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: winning elections. But the corporates who are who are doing 466 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: more to obey their corporate masters than their constituents, would 467 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: like people to think that the Progressives are trying to 468 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: hijack the Democratic Party. The truth is they hijacked the 469 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, the corporates, the you know, it is just 470 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: the equivalent of what Martiner the pay meant when you 471 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: talked about the white moderates. Yes, which you're dangerous, right. 472 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: They hijacked the party and all the progressives are trying 473 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: to do is to take it back to its FDR 474 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: and new deal roots correct, and the war is on 475 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: and didn't look what they did to Nina Turner. And 476 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: on top of that, Okay, so I can go all 477 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: over the place with this, I love you for talking 478 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: about white moderates because they're the most dangerous and and 479 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: and and we and they live boldly and loudly, and 480 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: they make no apology about where they stand. When we 481 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: come back, we'll have more. Marianne Williamson after the break. 482 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: Every champion and every champion is to be a champion, 483 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: a champion and very champion. They carry chappion champion, and 484 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: carry Chappion and carry Cheppi Sports and the saming can 485 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: make it work. Harry Chappion and carry Chappion is to 486 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: champion a champion. They carry Chappion Champion. They carry Chappion, 487 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Andy carry Chappi and can make it. Welcome back everyone, 488 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: um so again, Mary ed Williamson, still with us. This 489 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: this this is special for me, guys, and the way 490 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: in which I explain how we met, why it seems 491 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: so divine, and why I am really paying attention to 492 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: the world around me because nothing happens, you know, by accident. 493 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: It just doesn't Listen to her share her story about 494 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: what she believes is the way to change. I want 495 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: you to talk to my listener, my marginalized listener, my 496 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: my black and my brown young women who who feel hopeless. 497 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: Like you said, it's uh, it not necessarily what you 498 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: feel all the time. But if you look at this country, 499 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: you think, who's here to protect us? What are some 500 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: some call to actions? If you will, if I really 501 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: want to, if I really want to get out here 502 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: and see a difference, I cannot believe what happened with 503 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 1: Row versus. Wait, there are people sitting here and I'm 504 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: speaking because I spoke to some a young lady today 505 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: and she's like, I just don't know what to do. 506 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't even want to bring kids into this world 507 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: with this type of world. What would you say, Well, 508 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: there are so many elements to what you just um 509 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: spoke about. When I was running for president, I used 510 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: to say everywhere I go, i'd say, please raise your hand. 511 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: If you were either a young person who has said 512 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: or you have heard a young person say what you 513 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: just said, I don't even want to bring a child 514 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: into this world. Economically, environmentally, the state of our democracy. 515 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I want to bring a 516 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: child into this everywhere I went carried all over the country, 517 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: I would say, at least the fifth of the room 518 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: would raise their hand, and I'd ask the people who 519 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: raise their hand to please keep their hand up. And 520 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: then i'd everybody else look around, and I say, this 521 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: is not normal. So that's the first thing. This is 522 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: not normal. This is as the people who are saying 523 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm traumatized by this, the first thing I would do 524 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: is legitimize your trauma. Okay, it is as bad as 525 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: you think it is. On the other hand, I would 526 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 1: point you that the point out that the people who 527 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: walked across the bridge at Selma were traumatized as well. 528 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: The women suffragets who were thrown into prison for marching 529 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: for women's right to vote. The conditions in the prison 530 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: were so terrible that the they went on a hunger strike, 531 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: and the prison officials put sent men into their cells 532 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: and and put metal contraptions around their neck to force 533 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: feed them. Our ancestors were traumatized. I think that I 534 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: think there's a lot about looking at our ancestors. These 535 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: are not the first tough times we had slagh avery 536 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: in this country. Sure well, I mean, well, you know 537 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: that in perspective, this is that's put in perspective. I 538 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: identify the problems, but identify with the problem solvers. We 539 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: in ways that we did not expect, are living at 540 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: one of those moments where the forces that have always 541 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: been with us, they were there at the beginning. There 542 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: were slave owners designed the depth wation of independence. The 543 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: forces which actually use all of their money and all 544 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: of their power to thwart the embodiment of the principles 545 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: on which we purport to stand and are willing to 546 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: do so even in violent ways. They're back, not that 547 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 1: they ever left, but they're in ascendence right now. They 548 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: are their energized. They're energized, and the answer is we 549 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: have to be energized to how carry When you look 550 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: at all of those um movements that we talked about 551 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: before Abolition, women's suffrage, and the civil rights movement, they 552 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: all emerged from spiritual and religious forces. Abolition, that Iss Foothold, 553 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: and the early evangelical churches in New Hampshire. Many of 554 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: the women who were women suffragets who were Quakers, and 555 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: Dr King was a Baptist preacher. So the left has 556 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: become very oversecularized. But this is an aberration. This we 557 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: when you say, what are we supposed to do? Was 558 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: supposed to know? Miracles happen and we in our time 559 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: are going to be conduits of them, and we're going 560 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: to push back about as the ship because we do 561 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: not want to raise our children within it. What exactly 562 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: we're going to do, we don't know, but that we're 563 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: going to do it. That's where it has to come first. 564 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: It's an internal thing. Oh no, this will not stand. 565 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: Just like you do when you have a child in 566 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: your house, and anybody who's ever had a teenager in 567 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: their house, you know there comes a time and you go, 568 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: this will not happen. It might be sex, it might 569 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: be drugs you do and you don't even know what 570 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: it is you would do, but you know this will 571 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: not happen, and you are so fierce. You are fierce, 572 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: You are fierce about it. We have to own our 573 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: fierceness and know that our that the nihilism and there's 574 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: no hope and the negativity and the don't even bother 575 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: voting stuff is the opposite. That's when they've really got you. 576 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: So we have to cry, we have to be upset, 577 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: and we have to move forward. Now, for instance, on 578 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: this abortion thing, we just lost a great battle, there 579 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: is no doubt about it. But the battle continues. It 580 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: continues on the levels of the state. We all have 581 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: to fall in love with state level politics. Now. Uh, 582 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 1: some of us live in states where your government, your governor, 583 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: and your legislatures on your side, they're going to codify 584 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: UM protections. And some of us live in states where, man, 585 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: we better get busy. Run for office. You know, one 586 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: of the things I would say, when you said, what 587 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: is the young woman you run for office? Become involved 588 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: in in runs um. You can look at a site 589 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: called candidates summit dot com and see all these progressives 590 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: were in the middle of primaries right now. So the 591 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: establishment DNC corporate board democrats are just going to shove 592 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: all these corporate democrats down our throats. It's time for 593 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: us to go No, we're standing for something different. Each 594 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: and every one of us will be guided just like 595 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: you and I felt when we were when we met 596 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: on the plane. Well, this isn't an accident in each 597 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: and every one of us. The universe is like a GPS. 598 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: When you take a wrong turn, the GPS will recalibrate, 599 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: and things are recalibrating right now. And each of us, 600 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: I think, are receiving the instruction internally through prayer, through meditation. 601 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: How can I move forward in my own life, in 602 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: my own personal relationships as well as with my community 603 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: and make a difference at this extraordinary moment. It's interesting 604 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: what you're saying. I want to go back to what 605 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: you said on the state level, the President of Planned Parenthood, 606 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: I believe that there are twenty six states that are 607 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: ready to oppose Roe v. Wade. I believe it was 608 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: twenty six. The others obviously will be in for a battle. 609 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: But the cart of action would be what do you 610 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: feel in your spirit to do? Because there is a 611 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: way for us to change it. We don't have to 612 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: accept it. Everybody if their basis energized, our base can 613 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: be energized to But Maryanne, I'm hearing what I think 614 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: is a beautiful thing, but probably not necessarily difficult, but 615 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: hard for people to understand. You're saying as a political 616 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: activists as a spiritual leader, the to go hand in hand. 617 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: Every great movement is built in spirituality. It's come from 618 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: some religion. And you're saying, if we as a people 619 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: really start to to find and you may not believe 620 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: in God and I believe in Jesus and you don't, 621 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: there is a spiritual component in you that that really 622 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: pushes you forward to say I can change this. So 623 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: so talk to me about the intersection of the two, 624 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: because it's a beautiful thing. But I can't I can't 625 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: see everybody being as sophisticated to understand it and know 626 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: what it is when they see it. Well, the main 627 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: message of both Christianity and Judaism and all the great 628 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 1: religious systems is that God's will has never not been done. 629 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: Crucifixion is followed by the resurrection. The um Uh slavery 630 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: in Egypt was followed by deliverance of the Promised Land. 631 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: So what the religious understanding, what the spiritual understanding gives 632 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: you is so we're going to get there. We're gonna 633 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: get there. The issue is what human beings do to 634 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: make the time it takes to get their shorter rather 635 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: than longer. And when you start from that that you're 636 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: living in the resurrection. And Judaism it says, during the 637 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: darkest night, live as if the morning has already come, 638 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: even in the midst of oppression, in the midst of injustice, 639 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: you praise God m And that's a psychological a religious 640 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: power is a psychological power. You get that it is 641 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: already done and we are downloading the forces that will 642 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: actually make it happen. If you look at what we're 643 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, going back, look at what we're going through 644 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: now compared to what people were going through during slaveling, 645 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: nothing nothing, I mean, you can't even compare. And surely, 646 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: surely abolitionists had tough days. Surely women's after jets had 647 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: tough days. Surely civil rights workers had tough days. There 648 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: is a way carry and which we do need to 649 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: toughen up a little bit, we do. You know, there's 650 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: a point at which, you know, like if you're talking 651 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: to a friend, if you and I were talking about 652 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: going through something, there's a point at which, yes, you 653 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: have to process, you have to feel. But there's also 654 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: a point at which this becomes spewing, This becomes self indulgent, 655 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: and some and of someone who really loves you says, 656 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: get out of bed, texts, shower, get dressed, m hm, 657 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: time to get up m that's what you're saying. Right 658 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: now is a time, time to get up well, and 659 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: it's time to cry too. I mean, there a lot 660 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: of hours in the day. I mean, this thing that's 661 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: happening with Roll v Waite is rough. You know, I 662 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: always say, pray in the morning, kick ass in the afternoon. 663 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: You fortify your inner self through prayer, through meditation, to mindfulness, 664 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: to whatever your practice is. Because everything that's happening is 665 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: an assault on our nervous system. It's really there. They 666 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. You know what they're doing. There's 667 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: something they're just the demeaning, the insults, the invalidation, and 668 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: then the Democratic Party, you know, it contributes to the gaslighting. 669 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean you have. BLM was the largest, was the 670 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: largest protest movement in the history of this country. And 671 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: all it's led to there's not one serious fundamental legislative 672 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: change other than which is which is, which is a 673 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: disgusting thing, Which is disgusting, and and and it. Here's though, 674 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: my frustration as someone who was very active. We know 675 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: people from BLM, We know people who are out there 676 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: on the ground, such as yourself and trying to make 677 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: significant change. You don't have to agree with the change 678 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: what I am doing something because I don't want to 679 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: be in this world this way. And then we and 680 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: then we have two choices. Biden wasn't the answer. I 681 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: definitely know the black community wanted the lesser of two evils, 682 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: and then the push to make sure that he had 683 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: some some bit of diversity on the ticket, right, And 684 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: then here we are finding ourselves just checking for Biden, 685 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: but like with our noses held find as long as 686 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: we don't have to deal with Trump, like literally, that's 687 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: what it was like, no choice, but I'll take the 688 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: lesser of two evils. It reminds me of your walking 689 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: down the street. You see evil over here, you see 690 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: evil over there, Well, what evil can I stand and 691 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: that should not be the country you that we live 692 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: in because unfortunately we find ourselves in these positions. And 693 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: as I said to you on the plane, it is 694 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: very clear to me that it's the super rich versus 695 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: everybody else because they are alined. It is, it is, 696 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: it's scary, it is I don't disagree with that at all, 697 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: and it and it has dystopian implications. It really isn't 698 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: left versus right, it's the system versus the people. And 699 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: when we realize that, how do the people start to ignite? 700 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: Because it's not left versus right because they're they're not 701 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: serving anybody's purpose. So here, here we have this message, 702 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: and I love you for for making it so crystal clear. 703 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: It is a download. It is spiritual. It is whatever 704 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: we feel in our spirit that makes us want to 705 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: move that intestinal fortitude, and we look to people for answers. 706 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: Where do we find answers? First of all, you know 707 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: Dande said that they the leader of the Indian independence 708 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: movement was the small still voice within. So whether you 709 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: call it the Holy spirit or conscience or intuition, if 710 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: you start even five minutes in the morning, don't pick 711 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: up your phone and download the craziness of the world. 712 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: First thing, give your nervous system time to align itself 713 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: with wisdom and illumination and extraordinary synopses of possibility. I 714 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: think the morning is so important. There was a French 715 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: philosopher who said centuries ago every problem in the world 716 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: stems from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone. 717 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: So first, prepare your nervous system, just like you go 718 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: to the gym or do yoga to to train your 719 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: external muscles, train train your internal muscles. You train your 720 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: external muscles so you can move. You train your internal 721 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: muscles so you can be nonreactive and still. Then you 722 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: realize everything that happens in my life today is just 723 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: like the acorn is programed to be the oak tree, 724 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 1: the bud is programed to be the blossom. I'm already 725 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: programmed to be the woman that I am, or man 726 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: I am capable of being, and every situation I am 727 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: in today will give me an invitation to be even 728 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: better and also a challenge, because I will be tempted 729 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: to remain in my weakness. We're all wounded, Carrie, but 730 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: we make a choice in life whether or not to 731 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: act from the wound and what's going on now that 732 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: recalibration of the GPS. Nobody has a broad stroke that's 733 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: going to fix everything. This is the zeitgeist is collective now. 734 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: It's what God's going to tell carry to do. It's 735 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: what God's gonna tell Maryann to do. It's what God's 736 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna tell everybody listening now to do. Nobody's part is 737 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: ultimately any more important or any less important than anyone else. 738 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: I come from a generation. I can tell you if 739 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: the cultural and political revolution is only led by soloists, 740 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: they know how to handle that. They shoot them. If 741 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: you can't, You can't shoot a song. It's like what's 742 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: going on in this union? They don't know. You know 743 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So so we all have to rise 744 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: up and know that each and every one of us 745 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: is the center. You know, when Moses came down, God said, 746 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: I will make of you a priestly people. He's talking 747 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: to humanity. There's a prayer in the course of miracles. 748 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: You wake up every morning, where would you have me go? 749 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: What would you help me do? What would you have 750 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: me say? And to whom? And then you see how 751 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: you meet people, things happen connections get made. You start 752 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: seeing that the universe is on the side of the correction, 753 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: but we have to make ourselves available to it. Correct 754 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: correct you eat. So side note, this is what I 755 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: wrote after I met you. I had spent a beautiful 756 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: week um on the East Coast, taking meetings for work 757 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: and readjusting and figuring out what was next. So I 758 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: get in front of a group of very influential people 759 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: who are asking my opinions and wanting to know about 760 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: certain things. This is before I even met you, and 761 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: I go listen to how the universe is telling me. 762 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 1: Don't be discouraged. You you feel like you might be 763 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: off track because something didn't work out work wise like 764 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: you thought it would. But you were consistently finding yourself 765 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: meeting with different people who were saying to you, your 766 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: voice matters, it's important. Let's take audience. I was in 767 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: d C for a very important branch. I couldn't really 768 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: tell you, but you know, we still can't talk about it. 769 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: But in my mind, I'm like, this is a beautiful moment. 770 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: Let me let me not forget about this moment. Because again, 771 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: the people that I met with, the minds that I 772 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: met again, all coming together saying we are not tired, 773 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: we are energized. We want to see change, change that 774 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: affects people. My calling is from marginalized black and brown 775 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: women and for the world in itself before you to 776 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: see like you see me. It's possible, it can happen. 777 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: I can speak to my experience. I can make sure 778 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: that we are seen as a people. And then I 779 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: get on this flight with you and I turned and 780 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm in the wrong seat, Mary, I'm in 781 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: the wrong seat. And they're like, you're in two another 782 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: but high class problems. So I so screwed up to 783 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: the seat. You moved your seat to help somebody else, 784 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: and we're sitting on this flight and I'm like, this 785 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: is not an accident. Stay focused, don't be discouraged. I've 786 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: made myself available for it. I really have, because I 787 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: know that's the purpose, and that's what you're speaking of. Now. 788 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: This is why I know it is real and it 789 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: can happen no matter how discouraged we get, because it 790 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: is discouraging. And there are a lot of hours in 791 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: the day, plenty of time to cry, but it's also 792 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: some time to kick some ass too, So that is 793 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: a beautiful UM message. And I even shared that with 794 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: Charlom Mane. I go, Charlom Mane, you know this is 795 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: He's like, isn't it. This is how the retal first works. 796 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: It's talking to us. It's saying, don't stop keep moving, 797 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: don't stop keep moving. It's a beautiful thing, Marian, and 798 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and I know you're super busy. I 799 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: don't want to keep you any longer. I think I 800 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: give you taken almost too much of your time. But 801 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me on the podcast. 802 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: Can you tell me the name of the website where 803 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 1: people can go and look at the candidates the oppressives 804 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: that you think are yes, yes, you can go to 805 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,720 Speaker 1: candidates summit dot com candidate summit dot com and they're 806 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: really good. And there are other real good progressive candidates 807 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: running also. But it's important right now to get active 808 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: because UM, because it's primary season right now. And just 809 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: the one other thing I want to add is to 810 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: sort of sum up everything that we're talking about. If 811 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: you only look at the world to the auspices of 812 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: the mortal mind, it's as bad as people think it is. 813 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: But the realization is we have within us more than 814 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: the mortal mind, and within that there's a quantum realm 815 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: of infinite possibility and faith. You know, faith is an 816 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: aspect of consciousness. There's no such thing as a faithless person. 817 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: You either have faith in the power of the disaster 818 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: or you have faith in the infinite power of God 819 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: by whatever name you call it, Universe, God, whatever, to 820 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: bring forth previously unimagined solutions. And that's what we can 821 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: do now, is to join in consciousness that previously unimagined 822 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: solutions are possible. They're possible, They're possible. I want to 823 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: believe that, like you said, the university calibrates itself as 824 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: the GPS, We're going to get back where we need 825 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: to be. I really want to believe that you It 826 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: is okay to be discouraged. It is okay to wake 827 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: up or you know, spin your night watching the met 828 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: Ball and find out that Roe v. Wade will be overturned. 829 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, while you're making fun of 830 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: people's dresses, It's okay to say what what? I'm frustrated? 831 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: What do we do next? But the he is to 832 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: stay focused on what to do next. Marian, I'm I'm 833 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,919 Speaker 1: very very interested in to see what you do next 834 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: in terms of your political aspirations and and and how 835 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: you will use your influence because it is needed and 836 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: it is special, and like you said, nothing happens by accident. 837 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same way about you American women. Um, 838 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: this is the vortex. That's it is the vortex. It's 839 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: an honor to meet you, and an honor to talk 840 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: to Thank you, Thank you. I know it won't be 841 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: the last I think. I think we'll be in the 842 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: I think we'll be in the same space, sued and again, 843 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: anything I can do for you, I'm here and and God, 844 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: bless you, thank you, bless you too. Marianne, have a 845 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: great line. Okay, bye bye. So I gave you a 846 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: very lengthy intro, like a super lengthy intro, and I 847 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 1: normally don't like to do that, but bear with me 848 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: and the tag. I'll keep it simple. Marian listed a 849 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: site for Progressive Candida. I encourage you guys to go 850 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: um and just check it out. You don't, you can 851 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,439 Speaker 1: vote whatever way you want, but just check it out. 852 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: Information is power, It's never not been and I'm a 853 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: believer of information, which is why I have her on 854 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: this podcast. And and hopefully you were able to really 855 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: take some real lessons. We are all able to create 856 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: our own reality, is what she's saying. We're all able 857 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: to change the world. It's in us. Whether we go 858 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 1: and listen and pay attention and look for the clues 859 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: and the keys throughout the day, then okay, that's on us. 860 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: But wake up in the morning and take a moment 861 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: before you let your nervous system and just all the 862 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 1: book on Twitter and social media, take a moment, gather 863 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: yourself and realize that you have work to do. And 864 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: while it is a long day and you may get 865 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: frustrated with what is going on in the world, there's 866 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: still time to kick some ass. I hope that people 867 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: don't feel because I do feel this sometimes hopeless or 868 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: frustrated or without power, and that is just not the case. 869 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: That is the trick of the enemy. Do not forget. 870 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: It's super rich versus everybody else, and you and I 871 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: ain't super rich. So we need to come together. I 872 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: gotta come together for your family, for your kids, for 873 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: your kids kids, for your well being. There are ways 874 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: to fight. Everybody doesn't have to stand in front of 875 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: the camera and cuss everybody out or have a TV 876 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: show or have a podcast. But there are ways to 877 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: unite and organize, and we better do something because if 878 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: we sit here and we watch legislation pass that affects 879 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: our children, our children's children, and do nothing about it 880 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: in a negative way, and we're just as responsible. I 881 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this edition of Naked. I'll talk to 882 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: you all next one.