1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: and courtse creator. We are two working parents who love 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Term career goals. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: This episode is airing on May twentieth, which, by the way, 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: is Sarah's birthday. And also, I believe we have never 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: had an episode air on May twentieth before, because I 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: can tell you that the twenty twenty five date cycle. 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Goes back to like twenty fourteen. This is a first 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: for us. Sarah, Happy birthday. 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: That's so funny. Maybe I've had a best laid plans 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: on my birthday. 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've had a bestide plans, but there has 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: not been a Tuesday that has been May twentieth since 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: quite a while. 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: We're exciting. Well, if you want to give you a 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: birthday gift, you can leave our podcast a wonderful review. 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: Thank you. 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Yes, that would be great. We would love that. 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, feel free go to Apple Podcasts or wherever 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. Right about how amazing Sarah is, 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you could say I am too, but it's 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: her birthday. 32 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: So throw that in. 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: We would really appreciate it. Well, this is our annual 34 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: summer episode. We've been doing summer episodes for a long time. 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: This is going to have a bit of a Top 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: five theme to hopefully shake things up from the last 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: time we've been talking about summer, if not on May twentieth, 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: but on other days around now. 39 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: What are you really looking forward to this summer? 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: Sarah? Yeah, so I feel like we have a pretty 41 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: busy summer. But the highlights I'm looking forward to is 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: we always take a family trip. This year, we're going 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: to go to New End and I also am hoping 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: to see my college friends this summer. The destination is 45 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: tbd because we might go somewhere or they might actually 46 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: come to me, which they offered after my little cardiac incident, 47 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: so to be determined. But I'm very excited to see them. 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: And then the other thing is I'm just excited that 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: we won't have any really late night kid activities. Yeah, 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: we will have like seven thirty pm pickups, but since 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: we've been used to the nine pm pickups, that is like, 52 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: that sounds amazing and it's not even every single night. 53 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: So wow, excellent, excellent. 54 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: Well, you had tried to go to you had been 55 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: thinking about going to New England last summer, right, and 56 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: then you guys pivoted to sort of the Pacific Northwest. 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: Because of Olivia Rogers. 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Yet, oh that's trick. Well, you know, and that was. 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: Specifically her tour did not coincide with where I wanted 60 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: to go, and I was like, you know what, you 61 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 3: know what's also nice and cool in the summer, Seattle. 62 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: So we went to Seattle. But this time we're going 63 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: to make the New England trip happen even without a 64 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: pop star concert. 65 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: What part are you going to? I mean, like Maine 66 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: or you know what. 67 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 3: We have settled on New Hampshire so you can send 68 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: me your New Hampshire White Mountains recommendations. 69 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, as I were looking forward to 70 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: summer from the beginning of it. Here I always have 71 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: to remind myself it's less time than I think it 72 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: will be. 73 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 74 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: Some points in life I think I have less time 75 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: than I do as summer for our summerson, I always 76 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: feel like there's more time in the summer than there 77 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: actually is, this vision of an endless summer, but it 78 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: really won't be. Jasper and I are starting the summer 79 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: with a choir tour, so that will be an experience. 80 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: I think it'll be a lot of fun. I hope 81 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: it will be. 82 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: And we end the summer with our time at the beach, 83 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: which is always great, but there will also be a 84 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: chunk of time where we will probably be taking Jasper 85 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: to his next stage or whatever university he is at, 86 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: which as we're recording this at the end of April, 87 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: has not one hundred percent been determined, so more on 88 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: that later. 89 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: But we will be doing that. 90 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: But I realized, like you know, so there's like a 91 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: two month chunk, like there's less than that's less than 92 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: two months between when I get back from the choir 93 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: trip and when we go to the beach, and within 94 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: those times, like some of the weekends, we're going to 95 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: have to be transporting kids camp like Alex Is going 96 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: to a two week camp, or it's going to one 97 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: week camp, Like, there's a lot of transaction costs in 98 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: getting to and from camp, so you know it'll be good. 99 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: But there's less time in summer than one might imagine. 100 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, our summers aren't even that long. I 101 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: feel like they're like ten weeks. They're not even like 102 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: a full three months where we live. 103 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but you said summer is coming, Winter is 104 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: that's the winter is coming, right? 105 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 106 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: As I was thinking of creative ideas for the episode, 107 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: because again we have to mix things up. We talk 108 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: about summer most years, and my initial thought was like, 109 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: winter is coming like Game of Thrones, and then I 110 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: was like, accept better. But then I was like, well, 111 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: I fear me it's worse because I was just highlighting 112 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: the fact that summer is not our best weather season. 113 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: As we will get into it during the challenges section, 114 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: but first let's be positive and talk about top five 115 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: ideas or just five ideas for celebrating the kickoff of summer. 116 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, well you had some of these and I 117 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: had some, so let's start with yours. 118 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: Sure, So our summer kickoff has been a traditional family 119 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: dinner right after school ends at the melting pot. 120 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: Not known as a summer cuisine by the way. 121 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: No no, but it is indoors, so for us, that's 122 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: sort of summer. 123 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: No. 124 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 3: My kids just really like it. They think it's like 125 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: the pinnacle of celebration. It's just like so specific, and 126 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: now that we've done it so many times, they're just like, yep, 127 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: that's what we do at the end of the school year. 128 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: So I've gotten to like really associate it, and it's 129 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: just like fun. I think one could also decide to 130 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: be like social and do an end of the school 131 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: year bash with neighbors. I've always thought that was like 132 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: a fun idea for us, though, like doing an outdoor 133 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: bash right now is like less favorable or a little risky. 134 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: So yeah, melting pot is our summer kickoff, all right. 135 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: My second idea is to have fun making a summer 136 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: reading list. And this can be done before the start 137 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: of summer, but whenever you feel ready to do it. 138 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: But it can be nice to have some beachy light 139 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: reads to look forward to. And there are number of 140 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: book curators who come out with summer reading lists We've 141 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: talked a lot about and Bogul who does Modern Missus, 142 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: Darcy and I feel like there's so many other awesome 143 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: like book casters and books to gram people, and probably 144 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: there's a lot of resources for this, but I have 145 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: a lot of fun making a summer reading list and 146 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 3: then starting to reserve a bunch of holds all at once, 147 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: which then come from the library and it's just kind 148 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: of festive. And then my third idea is to spend 149 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: some time planning your summer fun. Sorry I had to 150 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: get it in there, but this can be a reminder 151 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: that as you are kicking off summer, to make sure 152 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: you have a session where you really think about what 153 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: you want those rhythms to look like, because summer is 154 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: a season that is usually kind of different. Like when 155 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: you go into spring, you're like, okay, fine, where it's 156 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: a continuation February, March, whatever, But summer often different drop offs, 157 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: different schedules and people, different works, et cetera. So really 158 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: thinking about how you might make the most of those 159 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 3: changes and the sort of specialness of the season can 160 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: set you up for success. 161 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 162 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: Well, and part of that would be like making your 163 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: ideal weak, right, that might be a good time to 164 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: revisit what your realistic ideal week would be. 165 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, a great seasonal activity, and I think more 166 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: important for seasons where things change. So for me that's 167 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: actually like summer and the start of school. Those are 168 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: the two biggies. 169 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like you were saying, I mean, because now 170 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: you have no evening events, so you start thinking about, Okay, 171 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: well what could I do between seven thirty and nine 172 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: thirty if I'm not driving around to places. I mean, 173 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: that's a chunk of time that is usable in a 174 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: way that maybe was not. So I'll go with number 175 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: four in our top five here wardrobe revamped for places 176 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: with definite seasons. 177 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: Now, Sarah is not in a. 178 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: Place where you switch out your clothes I guess from 179 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: summer to winter so much. 180 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: But for those of us who are this. 181 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: Can be marking, like an actual marked moment, right, Like 182 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: you switch the sweaters out of your closet and maybe 183 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: get them cleaned and stored for the summer. This is 184 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: when you move your coat from the mudroom into a closet, 185 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: so it's not something you're dealing with every day. 186 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: The way out the door. 187 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Maybe you switch out your shoes, like if you had 188 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: boots for winter or sort of bigger shoes that you're wearing. 189 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: This might be when you bring the sandals out and 190 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: put them into the by the door rotation. Obviously, if 191 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: you want to go shopping, this could be a time 192 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: to think about what you're hoping to be looking like 193 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: in the summer or what you need in your wardrobe 194 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: and try to fill those pieces. But that can just 195 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: be a way to honor the change of the seasons. 196 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: I mean, are you doing this? I mean, even though 197 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: you're not. 198 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: I well, you'll hear on my list of things I 199 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: want to do for summer involve getting some summary type clothing. 200 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: And again, this is one of those things where like 201 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: we don't need it, but sometimes I want to lean 202 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: into those seasonal rituals because I miss the seasonality, so 203 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: I need to like make it even if there's no 204 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: actual real reason. So yeah, I love that one. 205 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: And then the other one. 206 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: Number five is to consider slightly tweaking your work hours. 207 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: And this can be part of the ideal week schedule 208 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: as well, but if you are not necessarily working for 209 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: an organization that requires set hours, like you have to 210 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: be in an office from nine to five or something 211 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: like that, it might be possible to tweak this to 212 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: work slightly differently, like maybe you want to start work 213 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: earlier if that's something that would be more helpful for 214 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: your schedule, and then end work earlier and have more 215 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: of the summer afternoon and evening available to you. 216 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: Or maybe it's that you work. 217 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: A little longer Monday through Thursday and then take a 218 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: half day on Friday. Or maybe it's that you don't 219 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: work on Fridays and you work ten hour days Monday 220 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: through Thursday. 221 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: Or maybe you work somewhere that already has. 222 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: Summer Fridays, like it's a half day and that's an expectation. 223 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: But figure out how you might consciously tweak your work 224 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: hours to meet more of the summer rhythms. 225 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: You could also do that with PTO. So if you 226 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: are someone who doesn't use all your dais each year 227 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: and kind of look for like I just don't really 228 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: need it, then one fun way to do it might 229 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: be to like take a half day every Friday from 230 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: like I don't know, Memorial Day to Labor Day or 231 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: something really cool like that. So, yeah, can get creative 232 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: with it. 233 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: You can. 234 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: Well, what about the five summer challenges Sarah? With our 235 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: top five? What are some of your challenges with this? 236 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: Well, the obvious one here is the challenge of childcare. 237 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: So for those that kind of are used to having school, 238 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: school is not childcare, but it can still serve as 239 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: a useful backbone for many months of the year, and 240 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: you lose that over the summer, especially with older kids. 241 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: Sometimes daycares and stuff. It's not actually an issue, but 242 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: for the older kids. And now I'm in this new 243 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: frontier of like the dreaded like teen summer because I 244 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: feel like I've always been able to very easily find 245 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 3: camps that appeal to my kids when they're younger, but 246 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: suddenly day camp is a little bit less popular in 247 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: that kind of teen age group. And yet there are 248 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: not necessarily a lot of like internships or we've talked 249 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 3: about there are summer programs and stuff, but I've just 250 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: found it to be more of a challenge. So one 251 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: thing we are doing is that all three of my 252 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: kids are going to Monday through Friday camp for three 253 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: weeks at the same time. This is probably the only 254 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: year that will ever happen, and they all really really 255 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: wanted to go, so I think they'll have a great time, 256 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: and then Josh and I will get to experience some 257 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: together time, which would be really. 258 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, empty nest. 259 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: It's Monday through Friday, so ken you're kind of working 260 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: during that time probably, although maybe you guys could take 261 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: a day off or something. I don't know. 262 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna do a little traveling and stuff, so 263 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: I think it'd be good. 264 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: That'd be exciting. 265 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: And then we did do a mix of kind of 266 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: specialty day camps for the younger two kids, and then 267 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 3: we still have our nanny and I mean, Annabell can 268 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: be home alone sometimes as well, so we're being a 269 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: little bit more flexible with it, but definitely something that 270 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: always needs to be thought through ahead of time. 271 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: How's your spreadsheet, Laura, Yeah, well I have the spreadsheet 272 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: for sure. I do a camp spreadsheet every summer. Although 273 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: for the older kids, I feel like to some degree 274 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: Jasper and Sam, it's not so much my issue anymore. 275 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't entirely know what Jasper's going to be doing. 276 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: But again, we don't have that many weeks, so we 277 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: shall see on that front. Sam is taking two online 278 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 2: classes to fulfill some requirements that will free up space 279 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: in his schedule next year, so he will be spending 280 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: most of his time on that. Ruth is signed up 281 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: for a couple of camps. She's going to try Sleepway 282 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: camp for a week with a friend. She's doing a 283 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: theater camp for two weeks. She's also volunteering our vacation 284 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: Bible school, which Alex and Henry will be at, which 285 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: was fun thing. Alex has signed up for camp the 286 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: whole summer. It's partly that he likes to do stuff. 287 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: He likes to lots of different camp related kind of things, 288 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: and I think it's also good for him to have 289 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: camps because otherwise he will be on his iPad all day. 290 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: And then Henry is in a few things. But we 291 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: also have our nanny through the summer, so they'll probably 292 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: be doing playgrounds, trips to. 293 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: Sesame place, various other things like that. 294 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: But yeah, spreadsheet as usual, weeks of the summer down 295 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: the left hand side, kids along the top. It just 296 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: is very helpful to kind of keep track and see 297 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: the whole summer at a glance and know what people 298 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: are doing. 299 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: And so when. 300 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: Somebody's like, oh, could we come visit you this time, 301 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: it'll be like, yes, I should tell you that these 302 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: two kids will not be with us, but that's fine, 303 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: But so you know, but you can tell that instantly 304 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: looking at it as opposed to like sort of hunting 305 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: through your calendar and trying to figure it all out. 306 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: No, I did the same thing, and partly for also 307 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: like drop off stuff, like if all three kids want 308 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: to do different things, is that realistic if they're all 309 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: in different parts of town. No, So it helps me 310 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: to know like what to line up with what. 311 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 312 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: All right, Well let's take a quick ad break and 313 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: then we'll be back with more on summer challenges. 314 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 3: All right, our next summer challenge is kind of related, 315 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: especially if you have chosen not to kind of program 316 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: a lot of your kids summer via camps, and that 317 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: is sometimes it just gets a little old where there's 318 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: like too much free time and not enough structure. I 319 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: don't really have a solution for that, but I just 320 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: want to like mention it because I think that sometimes 321 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: it seems impossible, and yet we often get to a 322 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: certain point where we're like, oh my god, when is school? 323 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: And so maybe I guess that's like a note to 324 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: myself though, like if I worry that I'm overscheduling the kids, 325 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: I'm probably not because I don't like to get to 326 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: this point. 327 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I know that there's like a beam 328 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: on Instagram where people are like, Okay, we in this June, 329 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: Like the June mom is like, oh, we're going to 330 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: the splash Pad, We're going to the you know, children's museum, 331 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: We're going to the amusement park. And then like by 332 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: late July, you're like, yeah, you know, Netflix is your 333 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: parent now, so it can happen, which is why there 334 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: is an upside to having some structure. But there's also 335 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: been the challenge of managing screen time and particularly with 336 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: when kids don't have something they have to be up 337 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: for at a certain time and the way. I am 338 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: very curious to see how my older children, who don't 339 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: have so much structure this summer, what their sleep schedules 340 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: are going to look like. 341 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've already actually addressed this because like out about hostymnastics, 342 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: but it doesn't start till four pm, and so that's 343 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: not much of a deadline. So we've already talked about like, Okay, 344 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: we're going to have to think about like a reasonable 345 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: time to get up and what we're going to want 346 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: to do before then and stuff like that. And I 347 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: know it's going to be a challenge because they're of 348 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: that age where they're kind of driven to stay up 349 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: later and lead. And I know it for my patients, 350 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: I know exactly when they're sleeping again, like I can 351 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: tell from the diabetes pump downloads who's staying up till 352 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: five in the morning and going to bed at like 353 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: the middle of anyway, So I know what happens. It's 354 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: a challenge, and I think it does happen. I think 355 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: managing screen time goes hand in hand with this, because 356 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: one thing that keeps kids up extremely late is like 357 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: having access to very exciting content twenty four to seven 358 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: on the screen. So I mean, in our house, we 359 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: continue to have discussions about this. We go up and down, 360 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: but right now we're kind of in a lower screen phase. 361 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: And it's honestly the kids have kind of most of 362 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: the kids have embraced it. 363 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's something I need to think about, 364 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: and I will talk with my older kids about and say, I. 365 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: Mean, because I wouldn't bother me so much if they're 366 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: up at random times, if they stay in their room. 367 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: But the problem is like that people want snacks and 368 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: they're like down and then the lights are all on 369 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: in the kitchen again, and you know it's just all right. 370 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: You're like, it's two in the morning. 371 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: It's two in the morning, don't move if you're going 372 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: to be in your room reading, I don't care. 373 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: But past that, the next challenge is mostly for you. 374 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: I mean the It's not just me, okay, it's for 375 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: anyone in Texas, anyone in Arizona, anyone in like Louisiana, Mississippi. 376 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: There are a lot of parts of the United States 377 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: in particular that are disgusting in the summer. I'm just 378 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: saying it's not just me. 379 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: That could be. That could be. We tend not to 380 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: be so bad here. 381 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: We have like a few days that will be ridiculous, 382 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: but yes, that could be a challenge. So making sure 383 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: to stay cool, having indoor opportunities. 384 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, remembering that you can't summer can't Like, I actually 385 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: do better if I'm like, you know what, this is 386 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: the cozy season. Not to be disappointed by the thunderstorms, 387 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: but to like expect them and be like this is 388 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 3: a great backdrop to movie night, and like this is 389 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: when we stay inside because guess what, all winter we 390 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: can go and do whatever we want, which is wonderful. 391 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: So I think sometimes just owning it rather than fighting. 392 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: It has actually helped in our case anyway. 393 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: And then this last challenge. I guess I hadn't really 394 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: thought about this so much, but the. 395 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: Challenge of having projects to manage over the summer, like 396 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: kids summer projects. 397 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Is that something that you guys have had. 398 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: I feel like I learned it partly from you, Like 399 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: you've had kids who were in courses, Yeah, and then 400 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: it's like how much do you micromanage? How much do 401 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: you just let them maybe leave things? 402 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: Well we met, Yes, that has actually been an you know, 403 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: I've had children take online courses over the summer in 404 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: the past, and it has been a constant thing or like, okay, 405 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: what percent are you through? 406 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Now? 407 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: Have we talked about the fact that we're traveling this 408 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: week and so if you haven't gotten to this, you're 409 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: going to be way behind. 410 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: I will say, everyone. 411 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: Has finished what they are supposed to do in the past, 412 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: and so I trust that it will happen. However, I 413 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: probably get a little bit more anxious about it because 414 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 2: to me, I'm like, well, why don't you get ahead? 415 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: Like what would be the problem of getting ahead? As 416 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: opposed to people who feel like, you know, as long 417 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: as you're within a few percentages of where you should be. 418 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: You could get to there where you should be with 419 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: a concerted effort. 420 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe just different different philosophies of life. 421 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: Yes, And even like my elementary age kids, we often 422 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: have like a book assigned that they have to read 423 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: over the summer, and then inevitably my kids are like, 424 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: I have all summer to read that, and then we're 425 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: traveling at the very end and they're like, I forgot 426 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: the book. 427 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: The book now, so suddenly reading I don't know, pride 428 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: and prejudice in the last two. 429 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 3: Days exactly, So that can be a challenge. I mean again, 430 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: maybe they'll learn some time management lessons that's okay, and 431 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: maybe they learn what we're for them in terms of 432 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: leaving just enough time to do something, et cetera. I've 433 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: also heard of scenarios where kids are like in a 434 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: sport and they're told to train or something like that. 435 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, you're like, you're just watching them not train, 436 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 3: thinking like, oh, it's going to be so miserable for you, 437 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: but like I can't make you do it. Yeah, but 438 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: I haven't experienced personally yet. 439 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: With cross country, there you go the amount of running 440 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: that has happened since the end of the cross country 441 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: send may have been minimal, but you know it'll snap back, 442 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: it'll stop back, all right. So the next section is 443 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: going to be our Summer Fundless, a couple of you know, 444 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: top five items on our Summer Fundless. Longtime listeners know 445 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: that Sarah and I both make Summer fundless. These are 446 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: things we want to do over the summer to make 447 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 2: summer feel like summer for us. So I have a 448 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: couple I Am going to try to make it to 449 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: this Dollhouse furniture store that happens to be in New Bedford, 450 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: which is also known to speak of summer reading as 451 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: where Moby Dick happens. So if anyone's tackling that as 452 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: a summer reading project, you could visit New Bedford. But 453 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: you could also do that to see this famous Dolphouse 454 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: store that is in New Bedford. I have to be 455 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: in Boston for something in the middle of the summer, 456 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: so I'm thinking possibly I will drive and then I 457 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: could stop there on the way there, and I got. 458 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: To stop there on the way back if I wanted to. 459 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: I am going to go to some sort of concert. 460 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: I want to go to some sort of concert. I 461 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: have not figured out yet what that is. Last summer 462 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: I had the amazing time of going to see Taylor 463 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: Swift in Paris, although that was in May, and then 464 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: seeing Olivia Rodrigo in July, which was also awesome. 465 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: But I have none of that planned for this summer. 466 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: And I would like to see something because you know, 467 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: outdoors or even in a state indoor, but. 468 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: Summer music is like it's concert season. 469 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: Right, totally. I have a concert. Well we're not going 470 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: to skip ahead to my list, but I'm going to 471 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: be seeing Amy Mann in Durham, which is probably not 472 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: on everyone's bucket list, but I'm so excited. 473 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, excity, Okay, well I have to figure out like 474 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: who i'd want to see you. 475 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm not entirely sure what that is, right, 476 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: I guess I'll do some perusal on that. 477 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: I want to go to a Phillies game because I 478 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: need to complete my Philly sports trifecta. And we went 479 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: to the Eagles, we went to the Sixers. We need 480 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: to get on to there. I want to spend some 481 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: time on the hammock, and I want to make sure 482 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: to spend some solo time in the pool. So I 483 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time supervising other people in the pool, 484 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: but I do not spend a lot of time on 485 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: my own in the pool. 486 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: And I like being on my own in the pool. 487 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: So you know, there we go. 488 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: I love it. So you have cultivated your little are 489 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: those last two are part of your quote little habits 490 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: of relaxation? Is that correct? 491 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: Yes, cultivating a Saturday vibe, that's what I have to 492 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: think of summer the Tianna. If maybe like June is 493 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: the Friday night of summer, July is Saturday, August is Sunday. 494 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: But you know, in general, we want to cultivate a 495 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: weekend vibe for this summer. 496 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: And September is Labor Day, literally this Monday. Get back 497 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: to work, all right? So my five things I already 498 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: mentioned one which I want to see some live music, 499 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: and yes I already have tickets, so that one, hopefully 500 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: I can check off the list. I do need to 501 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: see my parents and sister, that is important, upgrade my 502 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: and my niece. Sorry did not want to come out here, 503 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: I think so all right. I didn't specifically say Philadelphia 504 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 3: because like if we could all meet at the shore 505 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: or something, but I think it'll probably just be me 506 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 3: coming to Philly with the kids and or Josh depending 507 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: on his call schedule. I want to upgrade my travel stuff, 508 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: so I might even replace my Way suitcase with another 509 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: a Way suitcase so away if you listen. I'm just kidding. 510 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: I would just buy it. But I love that suitcase, 511 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: but I kind of want the slightly bigger one. And 512 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 3: I just want to have like a really streamlined like 513 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: kid with my cousband because I just feel like I 514 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: have a lot of travel calming and I just I 515 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: don't like my setup. So I'm gonna upgrade my travel stuff. 516 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: I want to watch a TV show with the kids. 517 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what, but something. And then I had 518 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: on my summer this is not really summer fun, but 519 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: like I do want to like have fun by getting 520 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: some new summer wardrobe pieces. So I feel like I 521 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: need a new pair of shorts because I feel like 522 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: my old ones are looking dated. I want a summer dress, 523 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: and I know that's like a thing and not an experience, 524 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 3: but like having a cute outfit makes experiences more fun, 525 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: so it goes hand in hand. And I feel like 526 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: I want a new pair of sandals, So yeah, those 527 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: are my five things. 528 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll take one more quick ad break 529 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: and then we'll be back with a little bit more 530 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: of our summer extravaganza. 531 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: Here. 532 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: Well, we are back. 533 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: We're talking all things summer. We've had sort of a 534 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: top five approach to this. I will say I wasn't 535 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: sure where to put some of this needs to happen 536 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: summer project kind of thing. But Henry needs to learn 537 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: how to swim like that absolutely has to happen this summer, 538 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: So we'll try to push that over the top. 539 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: He likes being in the water. He loves snorkeling. 540 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: We were in Hawaii of our spring break. He liked 541 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: snorkling a lot. But of course he has to have 542 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: his little swimmys on to do it. So we shall 543 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: see if we can maybe motivate him to get over 544 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: the top with the swim lessons. 545 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, especially because you have a pool. I think, yeah, 546 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: it's super in Florida, Like, yeah, you're like in a 547 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: hurry because you're so scared that there'll be some social 548 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: gathering where things will be crazy. So I bet this 549 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: will be the summer he will get it. Maybe at 550 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: camp too, they'll reinforce swims yeah, that's true. 551 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: He hit one of the camps he goes to. 552 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 2: They did do swim lessons for the little guys, and 553 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: so hopefully that will help as well. And I think 554 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: some sort of peer pressure will kicking because I think 555 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 2: probably when you're in like a five and six year 556 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: old camp, a good number of the six year olds 557 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: at least should be swimming. 558 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: So one hundred percent, as a former counselor of the 559 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: five year olds and or six year olds various years, 560 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: five was like the age where a lot of them 561 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 3: like got their deep end certification. Yeah, so he'll do 562 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 3: it all right, So oh, any other like need to 563 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: do use. 564 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: Well getting Jasper launched right, you know, we have to 565 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: figure out what he needs for college, which I don't 566 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: even one of the things that's unshown because as we're 567 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: recording this again, I don't know one hundred percent sure 568 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: know where he's going, and I don't know what the 569 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: timeline will be for that, because some colleges have you 570 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: move in in August, some have you move in September, 571 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: and if you don't know that date, it's kind of 572 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 2: hard to plan the end of your summer show TVD 573 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: on that. 574 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: But sort of the leading contender at the moment. 575 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: It would be sort of mid to late August, so 576 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: that we'd be sort of figuring that out. What he 577 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: needs again, kind of the life skills that are important 578 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: for college. 579 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: We have to some discussion of that this summer and 580 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: get him set up with that. 581 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: You know, lots of things. But that's definitely a summer 582 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: project too. 583 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: That is a very bittersweet but also exciting summer project. 584 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: All right, Well, we have a five top mo months 585 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: top five summer Love of the Week. All right, you start, 586 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: Sarah Love of the Week number one, Ben's mosquito repellent. 587 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got this last summer. 588 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: Okay, because you had raved about it, I can't say 589 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: that I noticed a huge difference between that the other. 590 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: What do you like about it? You think it's more effective? 591 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: I think it worked well. I am like the mosquito 592 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: magnet of all mosquito magnets, So like, if it's subtly 593 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: better than something else, I will notice, probably before anybody 594 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 3: else would notice. Like I joke that there could be 595 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: like one mosquito in the state and it will like 596 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: find me specifically. So for me, it's absolutely like makes 597 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 3: a difference. I mean, there might be others that are 598 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: almost as good, but for me, Ben's all the way, 599 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: so I always stay stocked in that not a sponsor, 600 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 3: just ordered online and I think I learned about it 601 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: on Consumer Reports or Wirecutter or something like that. Number 602 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: two classic Birkenstocks. Love them, loved them when I was 603 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: like fourteen, love them much older. My T shirt favorite 604 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: brand is Marine Layer. They seem to last multiple, multiple seasons, 605 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: so I have some going strong from like a few 606 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: years ago, which I feel like T shirts don't usually 607 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: hold their shape and stuff that long. So yay, throw 608 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: on out to Italian Ice because it's just such a 609 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: fun Stumm. Rita's is okay. 610 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: There's Rita's like a mile and a half from Sarah's 611 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: parents home by the way. 612 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: Yes, that was a common stop on my walk home 613 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 3: from school as soon as we got past maybe April 614 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: or so, and it is okay, But we have Jeremiahs 615 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 3: down here and we have Rita's too. Jeremiah's is like 616 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: a little better, so sorry, I'll just say in general 617 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 3: Italian Ice. And then finally, I do love good or 618 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 3: sunglasses because they're like twenty dollars but they like look 619 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 3: kind of cute. And you don't have to stress if 620 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: you lose them, which I did. I left a pair 621 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 3: on Slinky Dog Dash at Disney World, So that's actually 622 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: not the first time I've left a pair on a 623 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: disney World ride. But the other time they were like 624 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 3: fancy designer ones, so I had to like go find them, 625 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: which I did, but it was so stressful, and this 626 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: time I was like, Eh, anyway, it's fine. 627 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: You put them in that little pocket in the front 628 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: like for roller coasters. 629 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then you like when they're saying, please take your belongings, 630 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: You're like, well, I'm doing that. 631 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: Apparently you didn't listen to that. 632 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: I grabbed my bag with like my wallet and stuff, 633 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: but I did. I forgot that I had my sunglasses 634 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: separate from said bag. Yeah, but oh, it happens. 635 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: It totally happens, especially if you're like hurting three other 636 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: people off the roller coaster with you, and then yeah, 637 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: whether you have your bag or not may not be 638 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: the first thing you're thinking of. All right, So my 639 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: top five I am going to say, honeysuckle, beer gardens. 640 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: I like beer gardens. 641 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: I'm just so you know, fun about being outside and 642 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: they feel festive and it's in the evening, so it's 643 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: you know, an excuse to be outside waking up later, 644 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: so me not being a natural morning person, It's not 645 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: been as bad this year because they shifted the school 646 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: start times so most mornings we do not need. 647 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: To wake up before seven, which is lovely. 648 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: And even if we are waking up on the early side, 649 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: like our early shifted routine is six forty, which is 650 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: still not that early, but still this summer. 651 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: Doesn't even have to do that. So you know, if 652 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: the kids are going. 653 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: To camp at like nine, nobody really has to wake 654 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: up before eight. I'm feeling like I could get up 655 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: at seven and get a lot of stuff done before 656 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: anyone else is up, and that could be amazing. Maybe 657 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: I'll start being a morning exerciser. Maybe not because it's 658 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: not I mean, if you're gonna rint outside, I guess 659 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: you need to do it in the early morning and summer. 660 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: But we'll see, we'll see waking up later. Anything grilled 661 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: grilled food is good. I think we should try to 662 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: experiment with this this summer, you know, beyond the basic proteins. 663 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: Maybe some like grilling lettuce leaves and making a char 664 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: grilled salad or you know, various vegetables. 665 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: I was going to suggest octopus. 666 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: Octopus. 667 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: Well, I like octopus, and I'm sure it's good on 668 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: the grill. Yeah, And then different combos of kids at home. 669 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: This is just one of the fun parts of summer 670 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: when you have some kids who are going to sleep 671 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: away camps, as you wind up with like a totally different, 672 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: random assortment of children, when you have five kids who 673 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: might be home at any given point, and so it 674 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: just changes the dynamic and interesting ways. 675 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: And I kind of I'm here for it. 676 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: I like seeing what the dynamic would be if you 677 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: had this, this and this age, or if you only 678 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: had these two, or if you had tho wan. 679 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: So it'll be kind of fun to see. All right. 680 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: So question this week what to do with the last 681 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: week of summer. There are often no camps by the 682 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 2: last week of summer, So Sarah, what's your general approach 683 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: for this? 684 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: I have nothing good this year. I'm going to be honest, Like, 685 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: so last year we did travel, like we made that 686 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: our family vacation. I don't know if you remember. It 687 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: was like the most horrendous phase. We had other stuff 688 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: going on too. But then I had like call week 689 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: and then I went straight to vacation or maybe it 690 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: was vacation to call to school, whatever it was. It 691 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: didn't work. So I was like, I'm never doing that again, 692 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: and so I booked our family vacation for June this year, 693 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: like the beginning of the summer instead, when there's also 694 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: not a lot of camps by the way, So it's 695 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: like you can have your issue on either end. So 696 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: our strategy is just going to be like really relaxed, careful, 697 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: getting ready for school kind of stuff. I mean, I'm 698 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: going to be working, but like on my more flexible days, 699 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: I imagine like doing the back to school shopping, make 700 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: sure the kids have what they need, because I felt 701 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: like we just didn't have time for that last year, 702 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: and I really felt it. 703 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a challenge for people who 704 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: are also like if camp has kind of been your 705 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: child care over the summer, then having that gap in 706 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: the last week week and a half is it's challenging. Obviously, 707 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: you can make it a vacation week, though, then that is, 708 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: as Sarah said, the trouble of having it go right 709 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: back into school. 710 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: You could possibly bring your kids. 711 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: To family if that is an option, if you have 712 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: relatives who enjoy spending time with your children and they're 713 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: amenable to it. Maybe that could be a week that 714 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: gets spent with grandparents or something like that. You might 715 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: be able to trade off, like if you are working 716 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: and you have other families in the same boot near you, Like, 717 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: if you think about it, if you had three families, 718 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: you could work out a situation where each parent takes 719 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: one day that would cover six days. You'd only have 720 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: to take one day off, and then the kids would 721 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: be able to do something with the parent who was 722 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: off on that particular day. 723 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: Would probably be a pretty fun experience for those kids. 724 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: But that might be a way to cover for everyone 725 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 2: and still have a good experience but not have to 726 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: burn through whatever limited PTO people might have. 727 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. That's fun. And another idea I 728 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: did have is that, especially if you have a kid 729 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: that's switching, either going to a new school or like 730 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: moving off a level in school, orchestrating some kind of 731 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 3: friend hangout for kids to see their friends if they 732 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 3: didn't see them during the summer, it can be like 733 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: ease everybody in it can be social and then they can, 734 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: like I don't know, kind of feel more ready. Yeah, socially, Yeah. 735 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: To start the new thing. 736 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: All right, Well, this has been best of both worlds. 737 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: We have been talking all things summer. We are, you 738 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: know our top fives in various different categories. If you 739 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: have ideas of wonderful things you'll be doing this summer 740 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: you want to share with us, please let us know. 741 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: And again, remember it is Sarah's birthday when this episode 742 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: is airing, so please give us a happy birthday review. 743 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcasts, we would appreciate that. We 744 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: will be back next week with more on making work 745 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: and life together. 746 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 747 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, 748 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: and you. 749 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: Can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This 750 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join 751 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: us next time for more on making work and life 752 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: work together.