1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. They say it's the 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak Europe podcast. Good morning, It's Friday, the thirty 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: first of October. I'm Stephen Carroll in London. Coming up today. 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Strong earnings from Amazon and Apple boost stock market sentiment 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: after a brief pause in the global equity rally, King 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Charles begins the formal process of removing his brother Andrew's 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: royal title. Plus, with NATO's Arctic footprint expanding, Denmark is 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: raising its military commitment to Greenland. Let's start with a 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: roundup of our top stories. Apple is predicting a surge 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: in sales in the last three months of the year 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: from its new iPhones. The tech giant is now expecting 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: revenues to rise by up to twelve percent over the quarter. 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: The forecast is double what. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Analysts had expected and comes after Apple reported increases in 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: sales and earnings per share the beat estimates in the 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: three months to the end of September. That's despite revenue 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: he is falling almost four percent in China and taris 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: costing the company over one billion dollars. Nobila Popol is 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Senior director for Data and Analytics at IDC, Apple. 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: Still maintains a really dominant share of the premium market 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: and that you know, they haven't lost hold of that. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: Of course, certainly competitors are coming up, but I think 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 3: the biggest competition that Apple sees is certainly in China, 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: but overall globally, we see really strong growth in the 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: segment that Apple plays, which is their premium and they've 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: maintained that ESCBC, you know, year over your ASP growth 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: in iPhone, and I think this is what is going 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: to help drive especially next year. 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Nobilia Popo from IDC speaking there. These results included roughly 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: two weeks of iPhone seventeen sales, with initial demand appearing strong. 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Shares an Apple rows by two point three percent in 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: after hours trading. I Meanwhile, Amazon's cloud deners posted the 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: strongest growth right in almost three years. Amazon Web Services 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: reported third quarter revenue of thirty three billion dollars, twenty 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: percent from a year earlier and above the average estimate. 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: The results eased investor concerns that Amazon was over spending 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: on AI, which shares rising thirteen percent postmarket. Overall sales 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: rose by thirteen percent to over one hundred and eighty 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: billion dollars and Amazon expects its shopping chatbot Rufus will 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: help deliver an additional ten billion dollars in annual sales. 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: China's president hu Jinping has warned against breaking supply chains 42 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: in his first public remarks since meeting US President Donald Trump. 43 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: In the speech to other world leaders at the APEX summit, 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: she called for multilateralism and collaboration. MEMBERTVS Avon Man is 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: at the summit in South Korea. 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: The message in. 47 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: That speech was, China is a defender of the global 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: trading system at a time when America is sin of 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: America first policy. We have seen both sides. I commit 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 4: to at least bringing down the temperature for at least 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: another year. Right that one year, true, certainly is longer 52 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: than the usual ninety days that we've seen these sort 53 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: of truces last. So we are seeing here at least 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: some daytime. The question is, of course, how long. 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: It's quite a lad Man adds that key questions remain 56 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: about how the trade truce reached between the two countries 57 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: is going to be enforced. The climbed down intentions comes 58 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: as China's factory activity slump worsened at October, reaching its 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: longest decline in more than nine years. Britain's Prince Andrew 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: has been stripped of his titles and evicted from his 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: royal residence after a scrutiny of his relationship with sex 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: offender Jeffrey Epstein. According to a statement from Buckingham Palace, 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: the King's brother will be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: as a formal procedure begins to remove his honors. Royal 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: historian George Gross from King's College, London says the scandal 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: puts the monarchy in a challenging position. 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 5: The royal family remains key parts of charitabul organizations working 68 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: on domestic sexual abuse, all of that kind of thing, 69 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 5: so for for him to have that and this in 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: the background must be impossibly difficult. And also the public 71 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 5: disquiet was very significant on this. 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: That's where was the story in George Gross now. The 73 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: move follows the publication of a posthumous memoir by one 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: of Epstein's victims, of Virginia, Roberts Giuffrey, containing allegations against Andrew. 75 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: In the Netherlands, the centris D sixty six party looks 76 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: said to lead the formation of the next government, with 77 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of votes counted. D sixty six is 78 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: projected to take twenty six seats in the one hundred 79 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: and fifty seat parliament. Hitfielder's Far Out Freedom Party is 80 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: expected to get the same number of seats, but its 81 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: isolation in parliament means it won't have a role in government. 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: That paves the way for D sixty six leader rob 83 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: Yetten to become the next prime minister if he succeeds 84 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: in reaching a coalition deal. Senior economist at abn Amrobank 85 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Jan Paul vander Kirk spoke to Bloomberg about what the 86 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: result could mean for the Dutch economy. 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 6: That'll be a good thing for the neelins. I think 88 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: we have an economy which has performed quite well, outperforms 89 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 6: European peers. But this constraints domestically quite a bit. So 90 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 6: a more pragmatic government which can give some policy certainty 91 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 6: in the face of international policy uncertainty would be very 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 6: much welcomed, at least domestically, but also for companies. 93 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: Senior ecluomists to Adab A Mamroe Bank, Jan Pol devander 94 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: kirkha there speaking to Bloomberg as Robbie Atam's cabinet could 95 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: offer a stark contrast to Hertfielders premiership, and the world's 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: major alcohol makers have lost nearly half their value since 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, a total of eight hundred and thirty 98 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: billion dollars. A Bloomberg index of the beverage market shows 99 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: how beer, wine and spirit makers have been left out 100 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: of the global equity rally. James Wilcock has more the 101 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: hit alcohol. 102 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 7: Consumption is four times the size of what happened after 103 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 7: the two thousand and eight financial crash. That's how one 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 7: analyst describe the shift to Bloomberg and why men in 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 7: the sector think it's a structural change. There are all 106 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 7: sorts of reasons. The COVID pandemic sparked, health concerned, weight loss, drugs, 107 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 7: celebrities going teetotal. Tariffs and inflation have taken a toll. 108 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 7: But the crunch is severe and it has led to 109 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 7: job cuts and corporate restructuring as the industry tries to 110 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 7: recover from its hangover in London. 111 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: James Wilcock, Bloomberg. 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Radio, those are your top stories on the markets. The 113 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: MSCI Asia Pacific Index is trading slightly higher this morning. 114 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 1: The NICKA and Tokyo, though hit a record high earlier, 115 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: currently up by one point nine percent. The hangs hang 116 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong's down by one percent, European stock futures 117 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: pointing two tens three tents lower. In fact, for eurostocks, 118 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: fifty futures and Nasdaq futures one point one percent higher 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: after those results from Apple and Amazon, SMP minis are 120 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: uped by six tenths of one percent on Wall Street 121 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: as well well. 122 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: In a moment, we'll bring you more on. 123 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: Those big tech results, plus a special report from the 124 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: Arctic Circle and efforts being made to beef up defenses 125 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: in Greenland. But speaking of beef, there's another story that 126 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: I've been reading this morning, and it's from our opinion 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: columns to Howard swayu Wan, who's been writing about the 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: rising price of beef and how it means that people 129 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: are having to pay more for their premium stakes in 130 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: restaurants around the world. He's been looking, for example, at 131 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: the ten percent rise that we've seen in prices in 132 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: London and looking at the underlying causes, including the shortage 133 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: of beef farmers. How it's in a profession that's not 134 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: attracting that many more people to it. One of the 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: people he spoke to said that the number of beef 136 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: farmers under the age of thirty five is two percent. 137 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: It's also particularly valuable. 138 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: It's got prestige attached to it as well, and he 139 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: says that'll continue because you'll get the likes of you know, 140 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: tech bros and their finance buddies staying with those restaurants, 141 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: even if prices do go up. All of it's a 142 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: great read, but actually the part of the struck me 143 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: most is Horod's defense of him seeing some of the 144 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: big global economic trends through the prism. 145 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: Of food and eating out. 146 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: He writes, the restaurants and food may seem anchored in 147 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: cultural and social trends, but they are entry points to 148 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: business ideas and economic processes markets like armies marched on 149 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: their stomachs, and I couldn't agree more. I'd also add 150 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: that Howard does this with a sort of insightful touch 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: that always leaves you with an appetite for more as well. 152 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: You can read his piece at Bloomberg dot com slash opinion, 153 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: and we'll put a link to it in our podcast 154 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: show notes. Let's bring you more details now on some 155 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: of those big tech earnings, Apple predicting a big sales 156 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: boost from its newest iPhone in the coming months after 157 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: some disappointing numbers from their Chinese businesses. Let's bring in 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: our tech outure of LAD'SAVAF for more on this. VLAD 159 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: investors seemed pretty pleased overall with this update from Apple, 160 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: shares rising and after hours trading. Is this all just 161 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: excitement about the new iPhone? 162 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 8: Yeah? 163 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 9: The iPhone is always going to be the defining product 164 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 9: for Apple's lineup overall, and honestly, the story with it 165 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 9: is very positive. The September quarter was challenged by supply 166 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 9: chain disruptions, CEO Tim Cook said, and he insisted based 167 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 9: growth for the current quarter, and the third party data 168 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 9: that we have been able to get hold of indicates 169 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 9: the same thing. The fhone seventeen generation has been very 170 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 9: well received. It's a redesign, it's an upgrade, especially for 171 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 9: the base model, the most affordable model, and that has 172 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 9: resonated with people both in the US and China, the 173 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 9: two biggest markets. 174 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Not that I went looking for downsides and these numbers 175 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: of LAD, but how much of a concern is the 176 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: weakness in China? 177 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: That drop and revenues that we saw. 178 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 9: Well, like I say, it's mostly a blip, but if 179 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 9: you do want to look for weakness, it has been 180 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 9: on the decline. So over the past two years, I've 181 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 9: always only had a single quarter of rising revenue within China. 182 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 9: So that is an ongoing challenge and it has so 183 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 9: much to do with the China consumer market in itself 184 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 9: and the consumer economy. But again, speaking with Ivan Lamb 185 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 9: from Counterpoint Research, he told me that you have what 186 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 9: he called a perfect storm of triggers for people to 187 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 9: upgrade at iPhones now, including all the people who bought 188 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 9: one during the COVID pandemic, are looking for an upgrade 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 9: and this generation of iPhones is given them the reason 190 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 9: to do that. 191 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's on Apple. 192 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: Amazon shares also jumping after hours after they reported strong 193 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: numbers out of their cloud computing division in particular, How 194 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: did that I suppose growth playoff against the amount of 195 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: money that Amazon's investing in AI right. 196 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 9: Well, investors seem to like it, and they should. Twenty 197 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 9: percent growth when you're the world's biggest cloud computing provider 198 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 9: is really substantial. Amazon is trailing. The likes of Mezo 199 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 9: and Google have better growth rates. But like I say, 200 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 9: it is the biggest. Twenty percent is above what anyone 201 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 9: has really anticipated, and it's a very encouraging sign for 202 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 9: the market leader. That being said, Amazon is spending incredible 203 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 9: amounts of money. Is spent a new record in capital 204 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 9: expenditures over thirty billion dollars over that September quarter, and 205 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 9: its anticipating more than one hundred billion dollars in capital 206 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 9: expenditure for the year, and then saying it will spend 207 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 9: even more in twenty twenty six. 208 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so something to watch there as well. This has 209 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: been a week though, where we've had most of the 210 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: big tech names reporting. What sort of conclusions can we 211 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: draw from what we heard from these names that have 212 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: been so central to the global equity rally. 213 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 9: Well, I have to keep stressing this capital expenditure number. 214 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 9: I need to add up the numbers, but we're talking 215 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 9: tens hundreds of billions of dollars. For a good bit 216 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 9: of context, TSMC, which is the world's leading chip maker, 217 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 9: spends roughly about forty billion dollars per year on its 218 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 9: capital expenditures. And that's the company that buys the most expensive, 219 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 9: the most advanced machinery to make the most advanced chips 220 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 9: and it only requires forty billion. 221 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: That's a quarters well for spending. 222 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 9: Just a little bit less of that is what Meta, Amazon, 223 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 9: Microsoft and Google are putting in at the moment. So 224 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 9: the question that still hangs over everything is when is 225 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 9: that going to pay off? But likes of Microsoft do 226 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 9: tell us that they're finding more demand that they're able 227 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 9: to fulfill. So at the moment, because there is this 228 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 9: AI frenzy that goes from the chip making through the 229 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 9: suppliers of cloud computing, two businesses wanting to be ready 230 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 9: and wanting to have AI capabilities, the demand still is 231 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 9: super strong. 232 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: Okaylat to have off our tech editor, thank you very 233 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: much for joining us. 234 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: Stay with us. 235 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: More from Bloomberg Daybreak Europe coming up after this. Now 236 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: in Denmark is raising its military commitment to Greenland, which 237 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: is seen as crucial to security, along later as expanding 238 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: Arctic footprint. The efforts are focused on threats coming from Russia. 239 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Our Copenhagen reporter Sanavas joins me now for more. Sanna, 240 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: you went to the remote coast of Greenland for this 241 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: story and met some of the soldiers that are on 242 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: patrol there. First of all, tell us about this place. 243 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 10: I got the chance to tag al on Danish routs 244 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 10: to Greenland on multiple occasions, actually, so both on the 245 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 10: west coast and east. It was during the biggest ever 246 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 10: military exercise there and they were joined by several NATO 247 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 10: allies as well. What I'd say about Greenland is generally 248 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 10: is unlike anything that soldiers are used to back in Denmark. 249 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 10: It's a very harsh environment with mountains, ice, very challenging terrain, 250 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 10: unpredictable weather. All the settlements there, they are extremely remote. 251 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 10: Infrastructure is very sparse, so there are no roads connecting 252 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 10: any settlements in Greenland. 253 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 8: So it's very challenging to defend. 254 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 10: And it's really what requires that Denmark and NATO allies 255 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 10: as well goes go there to train and to be 256 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 10: prepared to protect Greenland in case of a future future 257 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 10: war with Russia or anyone else. 258 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: For that sake, well, let's talk a little bit about 259 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: what exactly they're doing to prepare for that. What sort 260 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: of exercises are happening there. 261 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's all sorts of things. Infantry soldiers training, 262 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 10: direct confrontations on the ground, exit practicing for kind of 263 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 10: like dealing with hijackings at sea, fighters were training refueling 264 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 10: in air, so a whole span of things that they're 265 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 10: training up there. And of course at the same time, 266 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 10: Denmark's government is also investing a lot of extra money. 267 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 10: In fact, they've agreed to spend seven billion extra, seven 268 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 10: billion dollars extra in the military in the region, so 269 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 10: anything from kind of maritime patrol aircraft to icebreakers and 270 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 10: Arctic ships. Their focus is really shifted east, so they're 271 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 10: investing a lot in their special forces units that are 272 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 10: patrolling in the north eastern Greenland and also establishing kind 273 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 10: of monitoring stations and raiders in East Greenland. And of 274 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 10: course it all comes after Donald Trump he criticized Denmark 275 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 10: for under investing in the defense of Greenland and said he. 276 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 8: Wanted to take control of the island. 277 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 10: It's very obvious that his comments have really been a 278 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 10: wake up call in Copenhagen, and it's a big reason 279 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 10: why they are now ramping up their presence. 280 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: Then, and how do people in Greenland feel about this 281 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: defense ramp up. 282 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's mixed. Greenland is I'd say they're very peaceful 283 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 10: people and there's a strong tradition. They're kind of wanting 284 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 10: the island to be a zone of low tension. It 285 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 10: seems Greenland's government is now acknowledging that the security situation 286 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 10: has changed and they're now talking about how a military 287 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 10: build up is actually necessary to keep the island low tension. 288 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 10: But many greenland Is they're very uneasy about more military 289 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 10: presence there, I mean the defense of Greenland. It is 290 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 10: an area that's still controlled by Denmark, so some see 291 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 10: this larger military presence as undermining Greenland's push for greater autonomy. 292 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 8: Many have also been nervous. 293 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 10: About US presence because of Trump's very assertive rhetoric. The 294 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 10: US didn't take part in the exercise this time around, 295 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 10: but even Denmark, just Denmark's military. 296 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 8: They have to tread very carefully. 297 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 298 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 299 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 11: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 300 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 11: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 301 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 302 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 303 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 11: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 304 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 11: Amazon Alexa devices. 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