WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: The Tech of Firefighting

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works and I love all things tech and

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<v Speaker 1>it is time for another tech Stuff classic. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing how air horns Work. I tried to convince try

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<v Speaker 1>to let me do that one, but she said it

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<v Speaker 1>was far too loud and distracting. Instead, we are taking

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<v Speaker 1>a look at a life saving suite of technologies, the

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<v Speaker 1>technology of firefighting. This episode originally published on July two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eleven. I hope you guys enjoy Chris polettin myself

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<v Speaker 1>going through the entirety of all tech associated with firefighting.

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<v Speaker 1>As of enjoy, we wanted to talk about firefighting technology.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually had a request come over Facebook for this

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<v Speaker 1>and we wanted to. Uh. I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 1>good request, you know, it's an interesting concept. We also,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I got an email about it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've had some some people enquire about the technology

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<v Speaker 1>used in firefighting and there's a wide range of tech

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<v Speaker 1>that we can talk about. Some of it is stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that is based off of technology that's been around for

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<v Speaker 1>more than a century and some of it is really

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<v Speaker 1>like space age type stuff. So, um, I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>thought i'd start with one of the most um iconic

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<v Speaker 1>images when you think about firefighting, which of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>the fire engine or fire truck. So, uh, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>live not too far from a fire station, and by

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<v Speaker 1>not too far, I mean adjacent, and uh so I

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<v Speaker 1>get to see fire trucks a lot. As it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>they're pretty cool things. And of course, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>main uh, I think the main feature on a fire

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<v Speaker 1>truck has to be the water tank that that it holds,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and the water tanks. Depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>size of the truck, the water tank can be a

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<v Speaker 1>different size as well. Like you know, it's not unusual

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<v Speaker 1>to find a fire truck that can hold a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>gallons of water on its own. And of course that's

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<v Speaker 1>important because there's no guarantee that wherever the fire is

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be close to either a pool of

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<v Speaker 1>water or a fire hydrant. Um So a fire truck

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<v Speaker 1>has to be able to carry its own portable water supply.

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<v Speaker 1>But having water on a truck is not enough. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a way of getting that water out right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you would need some kind of pump. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>UH and fire engines have pumps. They have an impeller

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<v Speaker 1>water pumps, and an impeller water pump is a diesel

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<v Speaker 1>powered pump. So it's got its own independent diesel engine

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<v Speaker 1>and it has a rotor like device that's got some

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<v Speaker 1>curved blades on it that spin in the water tank. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this actually slings the water around starts to move it

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<v Speaker 1>in a circular fashion. It builds water pressure, and you

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<v Speaker 1>relieve that water pressure by allowing the water to escape

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<v Speaker 1>through water lines also known as hoses. So they have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through a valve and then it goes through

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<v Speaker 1>the hose and at the whatever is burning thing, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>is burning thing, Yeah, that's a technical term in the

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<v Speaker 1>fire fighting trade. So the whatever is burning thing gets

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<v Speaker 1>deluged with water. And there's actually some interesting controls on this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a series of controls. There's a pump panel that

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<v Speaker 1>allows you to either manually control the pumps or some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are automated. They have like a Mastermind control

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<v Speaker 1>system that actually does this automatically. But a typical pump

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<v Speaker 1>panel will have levers on it that allow you to

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<v Speaker 1>direct where the water is going to go through like

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<v Speaker 1>which lines it's gonna go through, and of course that's

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<v Speaker 1>all going to depend upon which lines have been connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the truck. And there are lots of different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of water lines also. And again when I say water

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<v Speaker 1>lines there, those are essentially the fire hose is right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>These are a lot different from your garden variety hoses, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because they can handle a whole lot more pressure and

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<v Speaker 1>deliver a whole lot more water. As Jonathan was saying

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment ago, you can't be certain that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be right next to a fire hydrant where

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<v Speaker 1>the fire is and the fire truck is going to

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<v Speaker 1>park on the street. Now, if the building, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>it's the building is burning and it's away from the street,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to have enough water pressure to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the fire itself. So the hoses are long, they're there, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got some diameter on them, so you can really

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<v Speaker 1>carry the a good amount of water and they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to withstand a lot of pressure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're also they tend to be treated for a

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<v Speaker 1>mildew resistance as well, because one of the big problems

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<v Speaker 1>with fire hoses before the mildew resistant um film was

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<v Speaker 1>developed was that you had to dry them out after

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<v Speaker 1>you use them, because otherwise you would have mildew develop.

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<v Speaker 1>It would start to rot the hoses, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>hoses would not be stable. You could have a hose

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<v Speaker 1>rupture while you're trying to fight a fire because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been weakened by mildew. So uh, yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of elements that go into creating these these hoses, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a few different types I can talk about. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's usually there's a booster line, which is only about

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<v Speaker 1>an inch diameter, and it's usually used for small fires

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<v Speaker 1>like uh, a minor fire inside a building or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, or a minor brush fire even. Um, then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the cross lay hoses. These are the main hoses.

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<v Speaker 1>These are like the workhorses of a fire engine. They're

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<v Speaker 1>located below the pump panel and they can pump up

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<v Speaker 1>to gallons of water per minute. Uh. They tend to

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<v Speaker 1>be about two feet long and they've got a diameter

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<v Speaker 1>of an inch and a half. So then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the preconnect lines. So, like I said, you know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got all these valves that are attached to the fire

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<v Speaker 1>engine and they're on all the different sides of the

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<v Speaker 1>fire engine, because you never know where you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to orient the engine in station to the fire. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>there is UH there are at least three lines that

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<v Speaker 1>are pre connected when an engine rolls out of the station,

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<v Speaker 1>so that way the fire fighters have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>immediately jump out of the truck and start fighting the

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<v Speaker 1>fire without having to fuss with unloading hose, connecting it

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<v Speaker 1>to the right valve, and then engaging the valve and

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<v Speaker 1>fighting the fire that way. So preconnect lines tend to

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<v Speaker 1>be between an inch and a half to two inches

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<v Speaker 1>in diameter, and they tend to be able to pump

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<v Speaker 1>out around two fifty gallons of water per minute. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got hoses that are designed specifically to hook up

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<v Speaker 1>to hydrants fire hydrants. Those are five inches in diameter,

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<v Speaker 1>and a fire engine may carry up to a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>feet of this hose, but it's in one foot segments.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are also other shorter segments called curb jumper hoses.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say that the building that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>get about a hundred and fifty feet of hose UH

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the fire at whatever location you're at,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're hooking it up to a hydrant. You might

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<v Speaker 1>not want to grab two lengths of the hydrant hose

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<v Speaker 1>that's two feet and you know you don't only need

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty um that that means you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have an extra fifty feet of hose that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to maneuver around. Well, these curb jumper hose segments

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<v Speaker 1>are typically in links between twenty ft lengths and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>foot lengths, so that way it's easier just to grab

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller section so that you have enough length of

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<v Speaker 1>hose to get to where you're going without having excess.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got your hose pack, which is a lighter hose,

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<v Speaker 1>usually a smaller diameter, and this is what is used

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<v Speaker 1>by firefighters if they have to go into a building

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<v Speaker 1>and climb up levels. That has to be more portable.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the ladder line. You know, most of these

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<v Speaker 1>fire engines have a really long ladder that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of them. Well, there's a there's a line that

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<v Speaker 1>is part of that ladder. It's actually it's it's uh

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<v Speaker 1>a direct connection to the ladder. It's actually built in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's built in, and there is a nozzle at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the ladder that can shoot out well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually around three hundred gallons per minute, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty powerful hose. And then you've got your deluge

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<v Speaker 1>gun or deck gun. That's what's mounted on the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the pump panel. That's the one that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that if you ever look at the fire engine, you

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<v Speaker 1>see something that looks like a turret that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>fire engine. That's the thing I'm talking about. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we've been talking about hoses that can shoot out

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<v Speaker 1>between gallons and three gallons of water. The day lug

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<v Speaker 1>gun is no joke. We're talking a thousand gallons a minute. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may say, well, if you've got a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>gallons at the tank, does that mean that after a

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<v Speaker 1>minute you've completely exhausted your water supply? And the answers, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're if you were just using the water

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<v Speaker 1>in the tank. But you can also hook up a

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<v Speaker 1>a line to a a pool or acre pond and

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<v Speaker 1>use that water to pump into the the various lines

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<v Speaker 1>that you're using now. For that, they use a uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a strainer. It's a it's called a barrel strainer and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what is used to filter out debris in ponds

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<v Speaker 1>and pools and that kind of thing in order to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to use that water to fight fires. Because

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<v Speaker 1>of course, if you get debris caught in the line,

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<v Speaker 1>then you've fouled the line. You are you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>danger of losing the fight against the fire. But plus

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine it would do quite a bit of costly

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<v Speaker 1>damage to the equipment as well. Sure, yes, all of

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<v Speaker 1>that is is uh, you know, an important thing to

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<v Speaker 1>remember when you are trying to to fight fires. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's also they tend to trucks tend to also

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<v Speaker 1>carry foam, and there's different kinds of foam UH that

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<v Speaker 1>are that's used for different types of fires. Usually a

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<v Speaker 1>fire engine may only carry one type of film, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if it's if it's in an area where UH fires

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<v Speaker 1>are typically one type versus another. For example, a Class

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<v Speaker 1>A foam is a kind of foam that's used to

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<v Speaker 1>soak down an area after you've put out a fire

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent reignition. It's kind of a flame retardant. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got like Class B foam that's the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you use to fight flammable liquid fires. So like

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<v Speaker 1>a car fire, you might want to use that because

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<v Speaker 1>of the gasoline problem. So uh. And then the other

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<v Speaker 1>part about fire engines, they are like mobile tool kits.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where all the fire fighting tools are are

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<v Speaker 1>mounted in that and you may have some pretty low

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff in there. I mean things like hooks and

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<v Speaker 1>pikes that are used to tear down walls so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can get at the places where the fire is

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<v Speaker 1>to put the fire out. There's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>tech there. But then you may have something like a chainsaw,

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<v Speaker 1>you know chainsaws have that there's this there's some tech

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<v Speaker 1>there that's just pretty simple tech. It's usually you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a diesel engine that turns turns the chaine that you

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<v Speaker 1>can cut through stuff. But then there's also the uh

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty famous tool I would say that you typically

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<v Speaker 1>will find on a fire engine. Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I know where you're going with this since you just

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it a moment ago, but I think, uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to remember before while you're trying to guess what

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<v Speaker 1>this famous tool is that firefighters, um these days often

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot more than fighting fires. They're also responsible for,

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<v Speaker 1>uh doing some paramedic work. Um, you know, their first responders.

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<v Speaker 1>So if someone is injured, they often call the the

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<v Speaker 1>firefighters out um on the possibility that in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>medical care, there might be um a fire related to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they might need to do both things. Like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>as Jonathan was just pointing out, if you had a

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<v Speaker 1>car wreck and uh, there's a possibility that gasoline might

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<v Speaker 1>spill and catch fire. So you have someone trapped in

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<v Speaker 1>a car, Um, there's a possibility that there might be

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<v Speaker 1>a fire. So who better to send than of fire

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<v Speaker 1>writers who are trained in medical care. But the trick

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<v Speaker 1>is getting them out of the car before something bad happened. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where that's where this uh, this tool comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the Jaws of Life. And really the Jaws

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<v Speaker 1>of Life is actually a series of tools, is not

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<v Speaker 1>a single tool. Um. There's a company that makes uh

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<v Speaker 1>these tools, and the company is known as the Jaws

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<v Speaker 1>of Life. Company actually has a full name. But it

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<v Speaker 1>escapes my mind out tope of my head. But let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>not that kind. You still haven't seen that movie, have you?

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<v Speaker 1>I have not, we had someone asked us earlier. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>no he has not seen Jaws. So Jaws of life,

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<v Speaker 1>Jaws of Life. It's a hydraulic lee powered tool and

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<v Speaker 1>by that we mean it uses a fluid to create

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<v Speaker 1>uh pressure and move heavy duty tool elements. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's I guess a little digression on hydraulic fluid would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good idea here. So, hydraulic fluid is a

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<v Speaker 1>fluid that is typically it's it's not compressible. It's incompressible,

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<v Speaker 1>and by that, I mean you cannot squish it right right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like most things that we think about, there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>squish factor. But hydraulic fluid is supposed to be incompressible

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<v Speaker 1>and that means that the fluids that maximum density, you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot cram them the the molecules of that fluid any

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<v Speaker 1>tighter than it already is. So if the foot pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on it, it's going to push. Yeah. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a a cylinder filled with hydraulic fluid and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're trying to push a press, a piston into

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<v Speaker 1>the cylinder. At the point where everything is connected. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a you know, the solid cylinder at one end,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there the piston starts to push on it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a point at which the piston is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to push anymore because it is it

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<v Speaker 1>is compressed as far as it can go and it

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<v Speaker 1>will not compress any further. And you can use that

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<v Speaker 1>to do work. Ye, and there are plenty of tools

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<v Speaker 1>that do use this and the jaws of life to

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<v Speaker 1>use a phosphate esther fluid. A lot of hydraulic fluid

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<v Speaker 1>systems will use an oil based fluid. As you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>oil based fluids are not necessarily the best thing to

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<v Speaker 1>have in firefighting equipment. Yeah, So phosphate esther is non

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<v Speaker 1>flammable and non conductive. So the these hydraulic tools, the

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<v Speaker 1>jaws of life, there are actually, like I said, a

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<v Speaker 1>line of them, and the ones that are typically used

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<v Speaker 1>in firefighting are cutters, which do what they sound like

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<v Speaker 1>they do. They are designed to cut through stuff, so,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the body of a car, because the hydraulic

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<v Speaker 1>pressure is such that it will cause the the pinch,

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<v Speaker 1>the the cutting edges of this device to close. It's

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<v Speaker 1>such a force that metal just crumbles. And then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got spreaders. Spreaders are kind of like, you know, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of pliers and you open them. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what spreaders are are doing. They fires in reverse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you shove shove it into a gap, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>start the hydraulic motor and or actually start the diesel motor,

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<v Speaker 1>and that starts the hydraulic fluid. Uh. It pushes hydrug

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<v Speaker 1>fluid through and makes it do work, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>causes the pincers to open and then you pop open

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is you were trying to open, or it

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<v Speaker 1>tears apart one one or the other. And then hydraulic rams.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the three that are used the most

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<v Speaker 1>frequently in firefighting UH scenarios. So uh yeah, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of We actually have an article on how the jaws

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<v Speaker 1>of Life work and it goes into detail on each

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<v Speaker 1>of those tools. So if you want to learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about it, I do recommend that it's a very useful resource.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also I guess I should mention what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about hydraulics. The ladder on the fire trucks, those

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<v Speaker 1>are operated through hydraulics as well. There's a piston that

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<v Speaker 1>is uh has got especially two different hoses connected to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the hydraulic fluid will either cause the letter to

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<v Speaker 1>extend upward or to come back down. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>that's your basic fire engine from from front to back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's There's a lot more we can talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's so much more firefighting technology. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to just have this all be about fire engines. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you guys are enjoying this classic episode of tech

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<v Speaker 1>stuff so far. We're going to take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>and thank our sponsor. So what do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about next? Well, most of what I got is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of high tech, cutting edge type stuff. UM. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing that that we should talk about, probably UM to

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<v Speaker 1>some extent, or maybe we could cover it later if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go with all the high tech stuff

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<v Speaker 1>now is the stuff that the firefight is actually wear

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<v Speaker 1>on their person themselves. Sure, yeah, let's talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we just thought about fire engines, we should talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the fire gear that the the firefighters are wearing. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>This is they wear a lot, Yes, they do. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they have to try to stay protected from um,

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<v Speaker 1>the heat that's you know, it depends on what's burning,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. Uh. Some some different types of materials will

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<v Speaker 1>burn hotter than other materials. UM. And you certainly don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have a firefighter go inside to rescue a

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<v Speaker 1>person or to get at the source of a fire

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<v Speaker 1>and have them uh pass out. From the heat or

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<v Speaker 1>to to be overcome by heat and smoke inhalation. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to you know, protect them externally and

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure that they uh they can breathe, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they could see and and you know, keep

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<v Speaker 1>them as cool as possible. UM. One one jacket that

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<v Speaker 1>I read about that was really cool. It's actually called

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<v Speaker 1>turnout gear UM, which is a basically the the heavy

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<v Speaker 1>duty jacket that you might see them where. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>from a company called Viking UM. But it's got thermal

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<v Speaker 1>sensors built into the jacket itself. Now not now that

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of again sort of cutting edge, but this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this different thing has sensors on the outside which change

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<v Speaker 1>depending on There's an LED display UM on the jacket,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will tell you at you know, at what

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<v Speaker 1>point it is going to be a serious issue that

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to be a serious he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be too hot for the suit's integrity. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and the firefighter will be a danger. Yeah. Well. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing is that it monitors what's going on outside and inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So by looking at the firefighter, you know, another firefighter

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<v Speaker 1>could say, look, you know, he's in danger right now,

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<v Speaker 1>being where he is and needs to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>there because he may not be able to tell uh

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. He may be so focused on fighting

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<v Speaker 1>the fire he may be ignoring a potentially dangerous situation

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<v Speaker 1>for himself in the heat of the moment. Yes, Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>when the outer temperature of where the fire is gets

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<v Speaker 1>to about four two degrees fahrenheit um, the display, the

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<v Speaker 1>LED display starts to flash, and it's six d sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two degrees fahrenheit um, it will start flashing very fast.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine being in anything that hot. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because well, first of all, I got to know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>paper burns at farehne. Yes, but I was gonna I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, you know, it's kind of interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the history of the heat resistant

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<v Speaker 1>materials that firefighters have worn, the go to material for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time was called nomex, Yeah, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>fire resistant material. It's similar to nylon. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of a feel of nylon, but it

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<v Speaker 1>can withstand really intense heat as a type of meta

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<v Speaker 1>aramid fiber, which really you just need to know that's

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<v Speaker 1>a heat resistance anthetic fiber that was developed in the

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<v Speaker 1>lab and um it's actually kind of, uh, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a distant relative to kevlar um, which is a much

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<v Speaker 1>more resilient, not necessarily heat resistant, but physically resilient material.

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<v Speaker 1>So no mix was the standard for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the Houston Fire Department partnered with NASA to

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<v Speaker 1>develop a Originally it was just to develop a new

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<v Speaker 1>helmet for firefighters, but then eventually, through this partnership, NASA

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<v Speaker 1>suggested that perhaps they could completely redesign the fire fighter suit,

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<v Speaker 1>and they started to create suits that would circulate liquids

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<v Speaker 1>within the suits lining in order to remove heat so

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<v Speaker 1>that it would protect the firefighter longer in intense heat conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Because before that point, the Houston firefighters were really only

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<v Speaker 1>rated to go into areas that were three degrees fahrenheit

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<v Speaker 1>or cooler. Afterward, they could go into areas that were

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred degrees fahrenheight or cooler. And now you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a system where you know, it warns you at

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<v Speaker 1>four two, which is right around that you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred degree range that was just talking about, but

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<v Speaker 1>it goes all the way up to six, suggesting that

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<v Speaker 1>this material is even more resilient than the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>was made back in NASA. One of the other cool

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<v Speaker 1>things that they added in that that same project where

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<v Speaker 1>they were redesigning the helmet, they created an improved two

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<v Speaker 1>way radio link ups in the helmets themselves, and they

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<v Speaker 1>also created a infrared camera system so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>so that the firefighter could switch to a thermal view

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<v Speaker 1>and see hot spots in the house and also help

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<v Speaker 1>firefighters identify if any victims were UH in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they you know, they could see the heat

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<v Speaker 1>from a person, then they would know that they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to UH to. You know, you might not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see because the smoke might be so thick. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>infrared cameras play a really big role in firefighting technology

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<v Speaker 1>across the board, not just in personal firefighter gear, but

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<v Speaker 1>for example, a helicopter flying over a wildfire might be equipped.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, most of them are equipped with infrared cameras

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<v Speaker 1>and infrared lenses so that they can so the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>or the watch's not really the pilot, but a firefighter

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<v Speaker 1>aboard the helicopter can look through and see the hot

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<v Speaker 1>spots and see the flames even if the smoke is

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<v Speaker 1>so thick that you couldn't see anything, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>through a regular view to the ground. I'm sorry that

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<v Speaker 1>was a big digression, but you were going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the cutting edge gear. Yeah. Actually, uh we we can

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<v Speaker 1>keep going with that because I was reading an article

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<v Speaker 1>on Popular Mechanics about some of the different cutting edge

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<v Speaker 1>firefighting tools UM some firefighters for for things like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>scenarios like that, you're talking about a fire in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the wilderness, UM are using unmanned aircraft. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a monitor areas and using UM infrared technology to identify

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<v Speaker 1>places where uh, you know, you can really concentrate on

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<v Speaker 1>on fighting the fire. The thing is, UM, we have

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<v Speaker 1>really talked about yet. It's on our list of things

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But these unmanned aerial vehicles can stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the air far longer than UH piloted human piloted aircraft.

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<v Speaker 1>They can stay in the air for well. The ones

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<v Speaker 1>that they use in them the military can use stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the air for almost a day I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even longer. And they can fly through thick smoke that

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot, depending on the type of aircraft, may not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to fly through because you know, smaller aircraft,

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<v Speaker 1>which is often what's being used to fight fires, uses

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of line of sight UH navigational UH techniques

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<v Speaker 1>rather than flying by instruments. So if you're gonna fly

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<v Speaker 1>into an area that's that's got to really low visibility,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very dangerous for the pilot. So it's much more

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<v Speaker 1>safe to use a pilotless drone. I mean you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the person who's controlling it is controlling it from a

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<v Speaker 1>a workstation as opposed to in a cockpit. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>did you come across the the I'm probably gonna butcher

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<v Speaker 1>this name because my Native American languages are non existent

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<v Speaker 1>uh Icona, Yes, I did? I k h A in A. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a predator be drone that NASA has

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<v Speaker 1>UM that is specifically designed to to fly through areas

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<v Speaker 1>that are either threatened by wildfires, are actually currently in

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing wildfire, And it's got a lot of sensors on

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<v Speaker 1>it that allow it to UH to detect exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>intensity and location of a fire to help firefighting strategies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't typically think of NASA as being a firefighting agency,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have been partnering with in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>Forest Service in developing this technology and working on ways

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<v Speaker 1>to keep forest fires from getting out of control UM.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also moderate resolution imaging spector radiometer or modus UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and basically that's a there are two satellites in orbit

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<v Speaker 1>around the Earth UM. They're using instrumentation that can detect

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic radiation UM. And so basically, over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>a day or two, UH motus is keeping an eye

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<v Speaker 1>on on the Earth to look for radiation that would

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<v Speaker 1>indicate where where there's smoke and there's fire UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at things like uh you can sort

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<v Speaker 1>of overlay this with areas of population density, areas of vegetation,

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<v Speaker 1>things that might UM indicate that there is a serious

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<v Speaker 1>imminent danger of say a fire spreading if it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a grassland or you know, coming close

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<v Speaker 1>enough to an area of population density where you need

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<v Speaker 1>to start evacuating people to keep them out of the way. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's using satellite imaging is a very sophisticated

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<v Speaker 1>way of fighting fires because you can get uh uh

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 1>feel pardon the well worn expression, and a big picture

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>of view of what's really going on. And in a

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>fire of a size like that, of course, that's a

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>much bigger fire than the ones we were starting out

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>the podcast talking about Yeah. Yeah, I mean NASA has

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>done a lot of work with satellites and fire detection.

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean back at two thousand three, that's when they

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<v Speaker 1>started to to develop a software that would scan for

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<v Speaker 1>for fires and then uh, if a fire was detected,

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<v Speaker 1>then NASA could direct a more powerful satellite to look

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 1>at that area specifically. There's also the lands at seven satellite,

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>which is designed to detect moisture levels and and forceded

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<v Speaker 1>areas to determine likely spots where wildfires could form because

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>of course, the wildfire is more likely to form in

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a very dry area. Those conditions are our prime for

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<v Speaker 1>a wildfire because you've got a lot of dry fuel

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<v Speaker 1>and then if there's any wind then that's going to

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>spread that fire around very quickly in that area. So

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that's that's or the purpose of lance at seven. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a kind of identify potential spots where a wildfire

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>could develop with the right conditions. I mean, obviously you're

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to have something that's gonna spark the fire. Guys,

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I know this is a super hot topic right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Also write about in um in popular mechanics about some

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<v Speaker 1>software developed by the Canadian inter Agency Forest Fire Center

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>UM called Prometheus. Yeah, the Bringer of Fire, Yes, exactly.

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>In this case, it's actually designed to identify the likelihood

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:47.199
<v Speaker 1>of fire before it actually starts to burn. Very very

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>cool idea basically using it's sort of like if you

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>think about it's sort of like a meteorological models. They're

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>taking environmental factors into account, um ecological factors and and

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at those to get an idea of the likelihood

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of a forest fire starting and spreading, so they can

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of keep an eye on on that before it

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>even really at conflagration starts. Uh. Speaking of meteorological equipment,

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>actually a lot of well fire stations tend to have

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of meteorological equipment actually on the station, mounted

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>on the station because you know, firefighters need to know

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>this information. If if humidity is high, then they know

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>that the fire is going to spread more slowly than

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>if it were a dry day. Um. They need to

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>know what the wind speed and direction is because that's

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>going to affect how they attack a fire. It also

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>will affect how a fire might spread. So a lot

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>of weather equipment is uh, you know you'll find a

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of weather equipment attached to your typical fire station,

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know that way they have the most up

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to date information available before they go out to uh

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to fight a fire. Um, you want to hear about

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple other cutting edge tools. I ran into. The

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>two I've got that I wanted to talk about are

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of future potential applications. Yes, did you run across

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the controlled impact rescue impact rescue tool? Uh? This is

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>something if you've heard of the company at raytheon, you

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>probably associate them with defense technology and microwave offense. UM,

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>but among other things, many many other things. Uh, but

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the this is sort of high end weapons grade firefighting technology. UM.

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at a concrete wall and you need

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to get inside because there's a fire on the other side,

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and you've you've absolutely got to do this getting through,

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that's going to take you a long time using conventional tools. So, UM,

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>this is a prototypical tool, or at least it was

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>in at the time. This the article I'm used as

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>as sources written. Um, it uses blank ammunition cartridges and

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>fires those into the wall to make the wall crumble

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>just from the shock waves of firing the blanks. Into

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the wall. UM. The equipment waste about a hundred pounds,

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>which means that you've got to have to firefighters carrying

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the equipment up there. But it doesn't require any electricity.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's essentially a gun, um. But you

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>can use the device to basically pound your way through

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a thick concrete wall a lot faster than you could

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>if you were trying to use a jackhammer or electric saw.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I can easily see a fictionalized version of that weapon

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>being used in video games from here on out. UM.

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And then, uh, did you read anything about using electricity

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to fight fires? Yes? Yes, Uh, that is one of

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the ones that I wanted to talk about. Over in

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Harvard University, some researchers discovered something interesting. They found that

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's been known that that flames will react

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to an electric field for quite some time. But what

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the the researchers at Harvard University found was that by

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>using a variable electric field, which means they were using

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>alternating current uh to go to travel across a wire, UM,

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>they would create this variable electric field, they would direct

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it toward a flame, and they discovered that it would

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>snuff a flame out and the the What was at

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>work here was that the the variable electric field was

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>actually exerting force un charged particles within the flame itself,

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>probably probably carbon particles from what I read. Yeah, and

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it and it's pushing those particles away from the fuel source.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's literally pushing the flame off the fuel, so

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it snuffs it out, you know, in the fuel. The

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>rest of the fuel remains unburned. But this is, um,

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>this is just a small kind of laboratory setting, uh

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know, it's not a it's not a like

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a field test. And moreover, this sort of application is

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>really going to be useful for small, confined in spaces.

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>So any place where a fire might break out in

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a tiny area like let's say it's a compartment in

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a ship like a navy vessel. It's down below decks

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and you have a fire breakout, well, this could be

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a good way to contain that fire, to snuff out

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that fire quickly. Um. And you you know that you've

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>got to again a pretty confined space in that when

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>you're working with that, if you're talking about something like

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a house fire or a wildfire, this approach is not

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>necessarily going to be very effective. So it's not like,

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>we can just make a massive electric wand pointed at

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>California and say you're done, no more fires for you.

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna happen that way. Plus a lot of

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna be mad that their tiki torches just

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>went out. Nice, thank you. But yeah, you could use

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>it to uh um to escape a fire if you

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>were in a situation that that's a good point. Yeah,

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you can make a lane um. Yeah. The article i

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>read on it basically said if you were a firefire

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>inside of building, and there were a wall of fire

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>in front of you, you could you know, create an

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>escape route for yourself by using this on a on

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a small area enough to to get through and to

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the other side. Sercially, yeah, you wouldn't be able to

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>necessarily put out the fire, but you could at least

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>create an avenue to get out of that situation. Or

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it could be used as a sort of augment a

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>sprinkler system um mounted on the ceiling, so that you could,

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, use that on a small area within a building,

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>which would be kind of interesting. I don't know. It

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>would sort of depend on the type of equipment the

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that you were working with, and if you had something

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>like electronic equipment. Yeah, and we go that you're generating

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 1>electronic electric field. You're not shooting lightning out the end

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of something. So that's something to remember. It's not like

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you're blasting stuff of lightning and then the fire goes out.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that'd be cool, but it's not what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read about using acoustic waves to put out flames? No?

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. All right, So this is another one of

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>those things where it's an idea that could have potential

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>but uh, but it's going to take some more tests

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and some more uh experimentation to really find out if

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>it's if it's a worthwhile pursuit. The idea is that

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you use acoustic waves, so sound to snuff out flames.

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>And there were some early experiments done mostly by students,

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<v Speaker 1>really like science students in college level and even lower

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>where they would use a really sort of a low

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 1>frequency sound like we're talking about in the forty hurts

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>frequency range and boost it up really powerfully and you

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>and when brought close to a flame, the flame would

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>go out. And the idea is that we might be

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>able to use this kind of technology in areas where

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>there's UH zero gravity, for example, a space station. So

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>if a fire broke out in a space station that

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>would be at astrophic. It's also really unusual because you know,

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>flames behave in our in a really odd way in

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>outer space, and it's because of the lack of gravity.

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So instead of a you know, a tear dropped shaped

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>flame that you might see one on a candle here

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>on Earth, in space, it's round because there's no up

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and there's no down. There's no you know, the heat

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go up. The heat just stays where it is

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and it gets hotter and hotter and hotter, and it

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't But yeah, heat doesn't travel, it doesn't go outward.

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>There's no it's which is kind of hard to get

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>your head around. But uh, it's also in the outer space.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>In in a place like the space station, using water

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>is not terribly effective either. Um, it doesn't behave the

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>same way in a zero G environment. Using foam is

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>really messy and dangerous potentially dangerous as well. So that's

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>why they're looking at various alternatives to using a physical substance. Um,

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>what really the basis of of fighting fire is up

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to this point has been chemical. You're you're you're aiming

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>at the fuel and you're trying to put out the

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.240
<v Speaker 1>flame that way. Um, this is more of a physical

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>way of fighting fire. You're physically finding a way to

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>remove the flame from the fuel and thus snuff it out,

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And both the electric field and the acoustic wave methods

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