WEBVTT - #555 Packers Unscripted: Rough day at the office 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:14.560 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.800 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.119 by my partner and crime Wes Hodkowitz. Were coming to 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.599 you here from our shiny news studio at lambeau Field 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:32.240 and West. The Packers momentum was slowed with the bye week. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.800 It was halted and stopped dead in its tracks on 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.440 the trip to Tampa Bay a thirty eight to ten loss, 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:44.240 and I'm gonna give you this analogy. This game felt 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.199 like the days that you come into the office because 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.120 you're a coffee drinker. I'm not, and the only thing 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.040 that went right for you was that your cup of 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.840 coffee in the morning was pretty good. The rest of 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.920 the day was completely forgettable. It was just it was 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.200 one of those days for the Packers. The beginning of 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.560 the game, everything looked just fine, and by the end 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.319 of the game, it was like, what the heck happened? 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.959 I made this comment an Insider Inbox this week, Mike, 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.080 I was curious if you'd agree with me on this. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.399 This was a weird type of blowout in that the 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.080 Packers actually played really well in the first quarter on 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.360 on both sides, of the balls. They got ten points 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.640 right off the bat. They continued their streak, the only 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.520 team in the NFL right now who has scored on 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.000 their opening possession all five games to this point. They 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.080 come back after that, they go down, they score the 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.959 touchdown twice, and then you look on the other side 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.280 of the field. They got a three and out defensively, 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.360 and Tampa Bay had what like nine total yards or 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.760 something like that after the first quarter. They forced a 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.960 punt to start the second, and then things unraveled from there. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.360 It's just it was odd to me that usually if 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.680 if games, if you're disheveled, if you're not looking good, 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.680 you sort of tend to not look good right from 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.080 the start. If you would have told me that that 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.160 that first quarter would be tend to nothing, the Packers 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.440 would have, you know, twelve minutes of time of possession 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.440 and then the final score was what it was at 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.480 the end, I would have asked you afterwards what happened? 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.639 So it was it was an unfortunate outcome. But again, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.240 the one thing I'll always say in these instances is 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.560 these things happen over the course of a long season. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.480 You have to find a way to bounce back. From it. Yeah, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.000 so many things in this game just anomaly for the Packers, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:19.520 both within this season and in the larger context historically. Obviously, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.360 Aaron Rodgers throws a pick six. He's only done that 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.520 now three times in his entire career, and weirdly enough, 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.960 two of them have been at Raymond James Stadium, which 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.440 that's something that's almost impossible to explain. But then also, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.880 the Packers had had zero turnovers through the first four 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.520 games of the season. They have two on back to 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.320 back possessions. Aaron Rodgers almost never throws two interceptions in 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.640 a game, let alone too on consecutive possessions, as happened 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.480 there and gave the Buccaneers fourteen points that wiped out 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.320 the early ten nothing lead. But then also the way 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.800 the rest of the game went offensively. The Packers had 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.960 had only one three and out offensively all season long, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.359 and after the two interceptions, they had five three and 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.240 ounce with j. K. Scott taking the field to punt 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:08.440 the ball without gaining a first down. Nothing was going 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.120 right Tampa Bay, led by those that inside linebacker tandem 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.840 of Lavonte David And and Devin White, and we talked 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.120 about them last week and their speed. And I tell you, well, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.919 you hear about how fast these guys are, right, and 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.959 but not having watched a game of Tampa Bay's as 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.600 closely as obviously we did this one. Man, those guys 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.079 are fast, they're they're in for my money. There is 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.200 not an inside linebacker duo in the league that is 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.760 better than those two. No, and the thing that you know, 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.360 I agree with the assertion that Lavonte David is probably 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.000 one of the most unheralded players in the National Football League. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.360 Maybe there's a lot of folks out there that wouldn't 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:46.760 be able to tell you that he was drafted in 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.680 two thousand twelve. This is a guy that's been doing 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.000 it for nine years now and still playing with the 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.520 amount of speed and explosiveness he still plays with. The 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.760 guy turns thirty one in January. He still looks like 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.960 he's a twenty five year old guy running around out there. Absolutely, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.360 and certainly you know he has all the fundamentals and 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.040 the technique to be able to take down ball carriers 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.520 um sideline to sideline. Devin White's gonna be a really 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.200 special talent. Though. You can just see the way with 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.040 the speed that he has, and that was he was 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.160 touted for that. You and I remember that draft, and well, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:17.919 he was the top five pick for a reason, and 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.840 there was and we were talking about him, Hey, could 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.400 this be a guy that potentially would be there for 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.040 the Packers or what they could they move up and 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.400 get him? And he falls into Tampa Bay's lap there 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.440 at number five, and he is the transcendent talent that 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.920 you're looking for in the top ten. Now, all these things, 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:33.160 you give them all the credit in the world, you 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.080 still have to find a way to beat them. And 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.599 for Green Bay, they just weren't able to really penetrate 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.240 the second level. The outside zones really weren't working that 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.599 well for them in the final three quarters, and the 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.720 Buccaneers just started to go to work after they were 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.520 able to kind of match that initial punch that the 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.159 Buccaneers sort of rolled from there. Yeah, and on the 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.760 defensive side of the ball for the Packers again, after 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.640 what looked like a promising first quarter, things start to unravel. 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.000 And really we've talked about it with this defense West, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.680 it very much is predicated on the big play. And 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.800 when you don't get any sacks and you don't get 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.440 any turnovers and you're facing a Hall of Fame quarterback. Now, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.160 Tom Brady didn't do anything spectacular in this game. I 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.200 thought a couple of his passes, particularly the touchdown to 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.480 Rob Gronkowski and the other sideline pass to Gronkowski, those 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.120 were picture perfect throws. But Tom Brady did not have 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.840 this you know, oh my gosh, wow, tom Brady type 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.800 of game. But because the Packers defense didn't get any 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.720 any of those sacks or turnovers, it just turned into 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.000 a really long afternoon. Well, and it's the reason why 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.080 they always talk about, you know, total yards, total defense, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.279 total passing. It's kind of a misleading stat because I'll 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:40.800 tell you what, Mike, when I was going, we were 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.600 getting ready for the zoom calls, and I brought up 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.680 the post game you know sheet tom Brady had a 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.160 hundred and sixties six passing yards in that game. Now, 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.919 mind you, that was kind of buoyed by the forty 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.720 yard defensive pass interference penalty and sort of those hidden 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.360 yards that were built into this thing. But it does 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.400 really tell you that, you know, they needed to play 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.160 a clean game that being in Bay, and they just 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.480 didn't uh Tampa Bay for their To their credit, again, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.840 this is a team that had eleven penalties for a 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.440 hundred and nine yards against Chicago. Those came back to 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.320 bite them. They weren't able to get their drives late 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.040 to seal that victory and they ended up losing the game. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.839 Whether it was the extra week and a half rest 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.720 or maybe they were on short rest the first time 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.320 that affected of them. They're back at home. Who knows 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.280 what the reasons were, but they cleaned it up. They had. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.320 They were charged with no penalties, only one offsetting penalty 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.760 on that unnecessary roughness or on sportsmanlike conduct penalty on 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.080 the Dominican sue. Uh. They were able to you know, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.920 stay in favorable down in distance, they didn't turn over 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.200 the football. Uh. But all that being said, green Bay 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.920 still didn't have had opportunities. There was the past that 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.920 went through Adrian Amos's hands. There was, you know, chances 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.520 to find a big play and the Packers just weren't 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.560 able to do that. But at the end of the day, 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.279 when you go back to what Green Bay did so 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.480 well in two thousand nineteen and why they looked so 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.159 promising on that side of the ball, it was the 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.279 pressure and there just wasn't enough of it on Tom Brady. Yeah, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.880 there were missed opportunities in this game for the Packers. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.800 Don't get me wrong, I thought, you know, after the 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.479 two interceptions by Aaron Rodgers, He's got Marcedes Lewis wide 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.360 open down the middle of the field, misses him. Rogers 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.400 talked after the game about, you know, whether or not 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.680 the win maybe played a factor on that throw because 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.000 it was a breezy day, and Rogers said he felt 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.720 good about the throw when he came out of his hand, 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.400 but then just unable to connect with Lewis. The game's 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.520 fourteen to ten at that point, you get a big play. 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.240 I'm not sure if Lewis, because he's not the fastest 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.320 man in the world anymore. I'm not sure if he 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.920 could take that one all the way to the house. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.000 But he's gonna put the Packers in position to get 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.840 points and stem the tide a little bit. You look 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.920 on the defensive side of the ball. You mentioned the 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.840 pick that went through Amos his hands, a potential interception there. 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.480 The two touchdown drives that Tom Brady and the Buccaneers 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.960 offense put together the longer scoring drives in the second quarter. 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.480 The Packers defense got them in third down four times 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.960 on those two drives to either force a punt or 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.400 a field goal. Tampa Bago's four for four on those 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.679 four third ounds ends up putting both of those drives 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.120 in the end zone for touchdowns, and you're at eight 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:09.320 to ten at halftime. Those missed opportunities, all of them 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.080 after the two interceptions that set up the touchdowns, All 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.680 those missed opportunities in the second quarter is really where 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.600 this game got away from Green Bay. Yeah, and you 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.440 just weren't able to recapture that momentum. And and the 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.720 fact that this is such a small thing, but Tampa 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.840 Bay went in the coin toss, being able to get 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.440 the ball back to start the second half, they were 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.520 able to put points up. They put twenty eight points 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.160 up in the second quarter, and then they got the 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.679 ball back after halftime. That's just such a huge deficit 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.440 to work back from from Green Bay. But you have 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.719 to find a way to do it. The major thing 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.120 at the point I want to get across, and a 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:42.880 lot of it came out of what Matt Lafleur was 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.440 saying in his Monday conference press conference with the Green 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.880 Bay Media Corps was that it went. It went poorly. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.839 The game plan wasn't good enough. The execution wasn't good enough, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.000 in the play calling wasn't good enough. He stepped right 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.480 in front of it and he took ownership of it, 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.960 as he has a lot of times after the five 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.800 losses he's had. But it comes down to that. Okay, 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.440 you watch the film, you correct it, and you've got 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.800 to turn your sights to this Houston Texans team at 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.640 one in five. It's somewhat deceiving there when you look 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.400 at Deshaun Watson and still the danger that they present. 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.880 So you can't allow it to be two losses. You 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.480 lost this one. You took it on the chin. You 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.680 got to find a way to come back from it. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.640 I want to talk a little bit more about the Texans, 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:25.400 that upcoming opponent here real quickly, some sponsored business serious 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.959 x M NFL Radio Channel eighty eight is the only 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.560 radio outlet dedicated to the National Football League seven days 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.520 a week, three and sixty five days a year, and 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.160 Packers fans be sure to gear up four game day, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.640 open a Packers checking account from Associated Bank and score 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.920 a fifty dollar Packers Pro Shop gift card. Learn more 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:49.640 at Associated bank dot com. Backslash Packers Okay as you said, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.079 the Packers have to turn the page quickly. You don't 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.680 take the film of this Tampa Bay game and completely 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.599 dismiss it, throw it in the garbage. You have to 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.719 go over it. You have to really study and look 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.960 at everything that went wrong. But then mentally, certainly starting Wednesday, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.800 when you hit the practice field, you have to turn 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.720 the page to the Houston Texans. And it's an interesting 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.480 thing here West because the Texans are The Texans are 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:17.320 one in five and while they are the victim of 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:23.080 the only Minnesota Vikings win so far this year, Houston's 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.040 other four losses are too If I get it right, 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:32.160 Kansas City, Houston, I mean sorry, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.599 and Tennessee. Those four teams in the a f C 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.040 right now, hey have a combined twenty and two record. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.320 Two of them are undefeated, the other two only have 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.960 one loss. Those are the teams that the Houston Texans 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.120 have lost to, aside from the Minnesota Vikings. So and 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.920 obviously they the loss to Pittsburgh was by one touchdown, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.880 I believe, only seven points. And then this most recent 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:01.160 loss to Tennessee, the Texans are down to seven in 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.120 the second quarter, they come back from that fourteen point deficit, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.200 they get the lead a couple of times in the 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.520 fourth quarter, end up giving up the tying touchdown in 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.200 the final seconds of the fourth quarter and losing overtime 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:16.760 to an unbeaten Titans team. So this one in five 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.040 record for the Houston Texans in my mind, in Matt 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.480 Lafleur's mind, I think in the Packers mind in general, 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.600 it means absolutely nothing going into this game on Sunday. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.720 It really does. And I mean the other common denominator 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.320 in all this is, I mean, you look at the 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.720 way in which Deshaun Watson has performed to this point 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.840 of the season. I mean, this is one of the 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.080 elite quarterbacks in this league. And one thing when you 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.920 look at the early slate here for Green Bay is 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.640 it's been difficult for them trying to stop those elite quarterbacks. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.240 So that's why you can't really take any of this 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.200 for granted. You can't look at one in five and say, Okay, 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.079 well they're just a throwaway team. They've been through the gauntlet. Now. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.199 They did lose to Minnesota. That was sort of the backbreaker, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.880 considering that was the game where okay, somebody has to 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.520 prevail here, somebody has to get into the wind column. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.120 But be then as it may. They came back the 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.600 next week and they got a two touchdown win over 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.840 the Jacksonville Jaguars. So there's so many different things that 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.960 play into this, and I'm just very curious right now, Mike, 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.480 to see exactly what the Packers do coming off of 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.800 a road loss and then having to travel to another 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.240 somewhat uncommon Well, this definitely is an uncommon opponent in 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.800 the Houston Texans. If you look at Matt Lafleur's resume, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.800 he has been exceptional. The Packers have been exceptional at 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.600 bouncing back from a loss and not allowing it to snowball. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.200 I wrote last week, coming off the by you have 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.680 to be able to keep the train moving. They didn't 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.480 in Tampa Bay. Well, you have to find a way 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.160 to get it back on the tracks this week against 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.160 the Texans. Yeah. Absolutely. And Matt Lafleur's track record here 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.240 in nearly a season and a half at the helm 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.120 of the Packers, probably the most impressive thing, quite frankly, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.280 that he's done is that he is more than twenty 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.840 games into his NFL coaching NFL head coaching career, and 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.760 he has yet to lose back to back games. And 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.200 that is the trend that the Packers are going to 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.280 hang their hat on. That Matt Lafleur will hang his 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.480 hat on and uh and get this team back going 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.280 in the right direction offensively. I really look for the 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.320 Packers to bounce back big time in this game. Houston's 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.240 defense has struggled. They've They've have given up a lot 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.720 of points. Yes, they've got some playmakers on that side 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.839 of the ball, don't get me wrong, But this is 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.280 a defense that I think the Packers can get the 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:27.160 offense back to a to both the the efficiency and 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.800 the explosiveness that we've seen that we saw through the 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.520 first month of the season. The defensive side of the 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.280 ball is where I'm a little bit more concerned because 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.960 the Packers are gonna hear all week from you know, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.920 the pundits, the writers, everything about how they're not getting 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.360 any pressure on the quarterback. The sack numbers are down 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.400 from you know, the Smiths and others. The pressure numbers 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.480 are down. You know, all the metrics are showing that. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.400 But you mentioned the guy's name, Deshaun Watson. You have 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.840 to be careful with how you pressure this guy. The 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.040 Packers can't go into the game thinking, oh, this is 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.439 all about getting pressure on the quarterback because we haven't 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.400 done that. Because Deshaun Watson will kill you with his 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.800 legs if you don't rush the quarterback in the proper fashion. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.360 So this is not going to be a game about 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.160 statistics for the pass rush to the sacks or whatever. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.600 This is going to be about in in the bigger picture, 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.720 how you go about defending Deshaun Watson. And you have 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.960 to defend him differently than you defend a lot of 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.880 other quarterbacks. You really do, and Watson is such an 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.880 interesting case study, especially this year, because if you break 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:35.320 down his stats against basically no pressure, the guy is 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.600 just eating people alive right now against four man rushes. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.600 I think he has like an like an hundred and 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.400 eighteen passer rating. Teams have blitzed him more this year, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.280 and that's where I think is passer rating. I don't 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:47.760 quote me on this for sure, I want to say 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.360 it's in the seventies when they've successfully blitzed him. But 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.320 the catch twenty two two, that's the tradeoff is what 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.440 happens if you don't get home and how does he 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.080 hurt you if you don't have a spy on him, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.560 if he's able to escape the pocket. There's a lot 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.440 of those extended, off schedule type plays that he can create, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.800 not only with his feet but also with his arm. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.040 Oh and then, by the way, he has one of 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.640 the most explosive targets in the National Football League. And 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.160 Will Fuller that can really hurt you if you let 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:13.960 him get deep on you on a go ball. So 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.600 you know they they've added some tools. I know a 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:20.479 lot was made out of the DeAndre Hopkins trade and 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.960 and you know you can it's kind of water under 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.960 the bridge at this point with Bill O'Brien no longer 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.320 as the head coach and GM, but you have to 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.120 look at the roster that sits in front of you, 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.680 Will Fuller, Brandon Cooks, and obviously Randall Cobbs, a guy 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:38.680 the Packers are incredibly, incredibly knowledgeable about. And then David 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.600 Johnson's a guy too that can hurt you with his hands. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.920 There are weapons there and it's an opponent you can't 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.160 take lightly. Yeah, and here's the thing was when you 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.560 look at we talked about it last week with Atlanta, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.400 right they change head coaches. It relieves some of that pressure. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.080 The players aren't under this big cloud as to what's 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.000 gonna happen. And the Falcons go into Minneapolis and get 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.600 their first victory of the season. The Texans did that 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.000 a cup of weeks ago. They move on from Bill O'Brien, 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:03.920 They get a win over the Jaguars. They take an 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.840 undefeated Tennessee team down to the wire. This talented roster, 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.200 they're playing a little more loose. They don't have the 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.680 tension that was surrounding everything with the future of the 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.440 head coach. And this is a team that's going to 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.680 be ready to play on Sunday. And Matt Lafleur has 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.160 been delivering that message to his team and to the 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.720 Packers fans well. And you saw it. Even not to 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.680 use the analogy again of the two thousand eighteen season 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.240 with the Packers, but I thought you were going to 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.880 go back to the cup of coffee. I can definitely 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.320 do that if you want. Okay, did you have your 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.440 coffee this morning? No? But you go back to that 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.920 eighteen season with the Packers, And as difficult as that 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.840 week was when the Packers made the decision to move 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.680 on from Mike McCarthy. They went into that Falcons game 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.240 with Joe Philbin and you really could tell there was 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:52.920 this we have nothing to lose type mindset. There's something 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.080 about when you make a coaching change that it just 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.240 seems to as you said, it gives you this sort 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.840 of freedom that it's just like, let's just go play. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.520 Let's not overthink this, because this wasn't The Texans made 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.479 these moves they made in the offseason, the extension, the trade, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.360 all that stuff, because they expected to compete this year. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.119 They were coming off a playoff appearance, several of them 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.080 under Bill O'Brien. So now they have a team that's 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.600 still really talented, and now they have more of a 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.840 freer mindset, and I think that's the danger. That's the 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.760 thing you have to shield against now going up into 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.240 this matchup, which again nrg Field, no one else wants 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.080 to hear this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Still 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.720 the only NFL stadium other than the ones that were 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.479 just built, that I haven't been to yet. So when 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:37.439 you and it only happens once every eight years unless 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:41.119 they play a preseason game there, But you and I, 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:45.000 when COVID's done and where everything's fine again, whatever year 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.240 that is. You and I are road tripping down to 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.960 Houston so I can actually go to the stadium. Thank 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.480 you very much. I was there. I've been there once. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.920 Two thousand twelve. I was rubbing in. I was there 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.800 for Aaron Rodgers throwing the six touchdown passes on Sunday 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.399 Night football to beat the Texans. You know. I so 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:01.960 I have been to the stadium no where. It was 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.480 in watching that you were watching that, you were watching 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:10.240 it on television. Okay, Well, the here's the other thing, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.840 not that the Packers need anything else to get their 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.760 attention after the way they performed and you're in that 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.080 bounce back mode. It's it's that whole reset, refocus and 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.960 everything like that. But the other element to this west 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.720 is however they look it up these days on the 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.000 phone on the computer, the NFC North, the Packers are 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.640 looking up at somebody. The Chicago Bears are five and one. 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.280 The Packers are four and one. For everything that was 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.240 going so swimming, lee and so smoothly through the first 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.880 four games, and the Packers were four and oh and 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.000 and uh, you know, you're on top of the world there. 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.479 You're one of only two undefeated teams in the NFC 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.160 along with Seattle. Now suddenly you're not even in first 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.080 place in your own division. And the Bears this coming week, 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.840 I believe they play on Monday Night Football. So the 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:59.360 Packers won, So the Packers won't even know what's going 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.760 on with the Bears or anything when they take the 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.159 field on on Sunday in Houston, because the best the 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:06.840 Packers are going to be able to do is tie 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.200 them for first place at five and one. So it's 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:13.040 just another thing to to lock in mentally because this 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.240 this is going to be a dog fight in the 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.280