1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: by my partner and crime Wes Hodkowitz. Were coming to 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: you here from our shiny news studio at lambeau Field 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: and West. The Packers momentum was slowed with the bye week. 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: It was halted and stopped dead in its tracks on 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: the trip to Tampa Bay a thirty eight to ten loss, 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give you this analogy. This game felt 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: like the days that you come into the office because 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: you're a coffee drinker. I'm not, and the only thing 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: that went right for you was that your cup of 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: coffee in the morning was pretty good. The rest of 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: the day was completely forgettable. It was just it was 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: one of those days for the Packers. The beginning of 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: the game, everything looked just fine, and by the end 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: of the game, it was like, what the heck happened? 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: I made this comment an Insider Inbox this week, Mike, 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: I was curious if you'd agree with me on this. 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: This was a weird type of blowout in that the 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Packers actually played really well in the first quarter on 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: on both sides, of the balls. They got ten points 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: right off the bat. They continued their streak, the only 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: team in the NFL right now who has scored on 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: their opening possession all five games to this point. They 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: come back after that, they go down, they score the 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: touchdown twice, and then you look on the other side 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: of the field. They got a three and out defensively, 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay had what like nine total yards or 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: something like that after the first quarter. They forced a 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: punt to start the second, and then things unraveled from there. 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: It's just it was odd to me that usually if 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: if games, if you're disheveled, if you're not looking good, 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: you sort of tend to not look good right from 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: the start. If you would have told me that that 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: that first quarter would be tend to nothing, the Packers 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: would have, you know, twelve minutes of time of possession 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: and then the final score was what it was at 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: the end, I would have asked you afterwards what happened? 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: So it was it was an unfortunate outcome. But again, 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: the one thing I'll always say in these instances is 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: these things happen over the course of a long season. 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: You have to find a way to bounce back. From it. Yeah, 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: so many things in this game just anomaly for the Packers, 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: both within this season and in the larger context historically. Obviously, 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers throws a pick six. He's only done that 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: now three times in his entire career, and weirdly enough, 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: two of them have been at Raymond James Stadium, which 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: that's something that's almost impossible to explain. But then also, 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the Packers had had zero turnovers through the first four 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: games of the season. They have two on back to 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: back possessions. Aaron Rodgers almost never throws two interceptions in 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: a game, let alone too on consecutive possessions, as happened 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: there and gave the Buccaneers fourteen points that wiped out 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: the early ten nothing lead. But then also the way 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the game went offensively. The Packers had 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: had only one three and out offensively all season long, 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: and after the two interceptions, they had five three and 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: ounce with j. K. Scott taking the field to punt 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: the ball without gaining a first down. Nothing was going 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: right Tampa Bay, led by those that inside linebacker tandem 61 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: of Lavonte David And and Devin White, and we talked 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: about them last week and their speed. And I tell you, well, 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: you hear about how fast these guys are, right, and 64 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: but not having watched a game of Tampa Bay's as 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: closely as obviously we did this one. Man, those guys 66 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: are fast, they're they're in for my money. There is 67 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: not an inside linebacker duo in the league that is 68 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: better than those two. No, and the thing that you know, 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: I agree with the assertion that Lavonte David is probably 70 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: one of the most unheralded players in the National Football League. 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a lot of folks out there that wouldn't 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: be able to tell you that he was drafted in 73 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. This is a guy that's been doing 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: it for nine years now and still playing with the 75 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: amount of speed and explosiveness he still plays with. The 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: guy turns thirty one in January. He still looks like 77 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: he's a twenty five year old guy running around out there. Absolutely, 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: and certainly you know he has all the fundamentals and 79 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: the technique to be able to take down ball carriers 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: um sideline to sideline. Devin White's gonna be a really 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: special talent. Though. You can just see the way with 82 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the speed that he has, and that was he was 83 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: touted for that. You and I remember that draft, and well, 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: he was the top five pick for a reason, and 85 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: there was and we were talking about him, Hey, could 86 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: this be a guy that potentially would be there for 87 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: the Packers or what they could they move up and 88 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: get him? And he falls into Tampa Bay's lap there 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: at number five, and he is the transcendent talent that 90 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: you're looking for in the top ten. Now, all these things, 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: you give them all the credit in the world, you 92 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: still have to find a way to beat them. And 93 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: for Green Bay, they just weren't able to really penetrate 94 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: the second level. The outside zones really weren't working that 95 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: well for them in the final three quarters, and the 96 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: Buccaneers just started to go to work after they were 97 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: able to kind of match that initial punch that the 98 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: Buccaneers sort of rolled from there. Yeah, and on the 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball for the Packers again, after 100 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: what looked like a promising first quarter, things start to unravel. 101 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: And really we've talked about it with this defense West, 102 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: it very much is predicated on the big play. And 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: when you don't get any sacks and you don't get 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: any turnovers and you're facing a Hall of Fame quarterback. Now, 105 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady didn't do anything spectacular in this game. I 106 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: thought a couple of his passes, particularly the touchdown to 107 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski and the other sideline pass to Gronkowski, those 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: were picture perfect throws. But Tom Brady did not have 109 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: this you know, oh my gosh, wow, tom Brady type 110 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: of game. But because the Packers defense didn't get any 111 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: any of those sacks or turnovers, it just turned into 112 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: a really long afternoon. Well, and it's the reason why 113 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: they always talk about, you know, total yards, total defense, 114 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: total passing. It's kind of a misleading stat because I'll 115 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: tell you what, Mike, when I was going, we were 116 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: getting ready for the zoom calls, and I brought up 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: the post game you know sheet tom Brady had a 118 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: hundred and sixties six passing yards in that game. Now, 119 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: mind you, that was kind of buoyed by the forty 120 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: yard defensive pass interference penalty and sort of those hidden 121 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: yards that were built into this thing. But it does 122 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: really tell you that, you know, they needed to play 123 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: a clean game that being in Bay, and they just 124 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: didn't uh Tampa Bay for their To their credit, again, 125 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: this is a team that had eleven penalties for a 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: hundred and nine yards against Chicago. Those came back to 127 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: bite them. They weren't able to get their drives late 128 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: to seal that victory and they ended up losing the game. 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: Whether it was the extra week and a half rest 130 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: or maybe they were on short rest the first time 131 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: that affected of them. They're back at home. Who knows 132 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: what the reasons were, but they cleaned it up. They had. 133 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: They were charged with no penalties, only one offsetting penalty 134 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: on that unnecessary roughness or on sportsmanlike conduct penalty on 135 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: the Dominican sue. Uh. They were able to you know, 136 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: stay in favorable down in distance, they didn't turn over 137 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the football. Uh. But all that being said, green Bay 138 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: still didn't have had opportunities. There was the past that 139 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: went through Adrian Amos's hands. There was, you know, chances 140 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: to find a big play and the Packers just weren't 141 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: able to do that. But at the end of the day, 142 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: when you go back to what Green Bay did so 143 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: well in two thousand nineteen and why they looked so 144 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: promising on that side of the ball, it was the 145 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: pressure and there just wasn't enough of it on Tom Brady. Yeah, 146 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: there were missed opportunities in this game for the Packers. 147 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I thought, you know, after the 148 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: two interceptions by Aaron Rodgers, He's got Marcedes Lewis wide 149 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: open down the middle of the field, misses him. Rogers 150 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: talked after the game about, you know, whether or not 151 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: the win maybe played a factor on that throw because 152 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: it was a breezy day, and Rogers said he felt 153 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: good about the throw when he came out of his hand, 154 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: but then just unable to connect with Lewis. The game's 155 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: fourteen to ten at that point, you get a big play. 156 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Lewis, because he's not the fastest 157 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: man in the world anymore. I'm not sure if he 158 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: could take that one all the way to the house. 159 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: But he's gonna put the Packers in position to get 160 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: points and stem the tide a little bit. You look 161 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. You mentioned the 162 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: pick that went through Amos his hands, a potential interception there. 163 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: The two touchdown drives that Tom Brady and the Buccaneers 164 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: offense put together the longer scoring drives in the second quarter. 165 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: The Packers defense got them in third down four times 166 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: on those two drives to either force a punt or 167 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: a field goal. Tampa Bago's four for four on those 168 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: four third ounds ends up putting both of those drives 169 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: in the end zone for touchdowns, and you're at eight 170 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: to ten at halftime. Those missed opportunities, all of them 171 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: after the two interceptions that set up the touchdowns, All 172 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: those missed opportunities in the second quarter is really where 173 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: this game got away from Green Bay. Yeah, and you 174 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: just weren't able to recapture that momentum. And and the 175 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: fact that this is such a small thing, but Tampa 176 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: Bay went in the coin toss, being able to get 177 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: the ball back to start the second half, they were 178 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: able to put points up. They put twenty eight points 179 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: up in the second quarter, and then they got the 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: ball back after halftime. That's just such a huge deficit 181 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: to work back from from Green Bay. But you have 182 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: to find a way to do it. The major thing 183 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: at the point I want to get across, and a 184 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: lot of it came out of what Matt Lafleur was 185 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: saying in his Monday conference press conference with the Green 186 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: Bay Media Corps was that it went. It went poorly. 187 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: The game plan wasn't good enough. The execution wasn't good enough, 188 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: in the play calling wasn't good enough. He stepped right 189 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: in front of it and he took ownership of it, 190 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: as he has a lot of times after the five 191 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: losses he's had. But it comes down to that. Okay, 192 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: you watch the film, you correct it, and you've got 193 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: to turn your sights to this Houston Texans team at 194 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: one in five. It's somewhat deceiving there when you look 195 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: at Deshaun Watson and still the danger that they present. 196 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: So you can't allow it to be two losses. You 197 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: lost this one. You took it on the chin. You 198 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: got to find a way to come back from it. Yeah. 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Backslash Packers Okay as you said, 208 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: the Packers have to turn the page quickly. You don't 209 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: take the film of this Tampa Bay game and completely 210 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: dismiss it, throw it in the garbage. You have to 211 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: go over it. You have to really study and look 212 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: at everything that went wrong. But then mentally, certainly starting Wednesday, 213 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: when you hit the practice field, you have to turn 214 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: the page to the Houston Texans. And it's an interesting 215 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: thing here West because the Texans are The Texans are 216 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: one in five and while they are the victim of 217 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: the only Minnesota Vikings win so far this year, Houston's 218 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: other four losses are too If I get it right, 219 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Houston, I mean sorry, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, 220 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: and Tennessee. Those four teams in the a f C 221 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: right now, hey have a combined twenty and two record. 222 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: Two of them are undefeated, the other two only have 223 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: one loss. Those are the teams that the Houston Texans 224 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: have lost to, aside from the Minnesota Vikings. So and 225 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: obviously they the loss to Pittsburgh was by one touchdown, 226 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: I believe, only seven points. And then this most recent 227 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: loss to Tennessee, the Texans are down to seven in 228 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the second quarter, they come back from that fourteen point deficit, 229 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: they get the lead a couple of times in the 230 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, end up giving up the tying touchdown in 231 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: the final seconds of the fourth quarter and losing overtime 232 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: to an unbeaten Titans team. So this one in five 233 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: record for the Houston Texans in my mind, in Matt 234 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: Lafleur's mind, I think in the Packers mind in general, 235 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: it means absolutely nothing going into this game on Sunday. 236 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: It really does. And I mean the other common denominator 237 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: in all this is, I mean, you look at the 238 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: way in which Deshaun Watson has performed to this point 239 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: of the season. I mean, this is one of the 240 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks in this league. And one thing when you 241 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: look at the early slate here for Green Bay is 242 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: it's been difficult for them trying to stop those elite quarterbacks. 243 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: So that's why you can't really take any of this 244 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: for granted. You can't look at one in five and say, Okay, 245 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: well they're just a throwaway team. They've been through the gauntlet. Now. 246 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: They did lose to Minnesota. That was sort of the backbreaker, 247 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: considering that was the game where okay, somebody has to 248 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: prevail here, somebody has to get into the wind column. 249 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: But be then as it may. They came back the 250 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: next week and they got a two touchdown win over 251 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. So there's so many different things that 252 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: play into this, and I'm just very curious right now, Mike, 253 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: to see exactly what the Packers do coming off of 254 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: a road loss and then having to travel to another 255 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: somewhat uncommon Well, this definitely is an uncommon opponent in 256 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. If you look at Matt Lafleur's resume, 257 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: he has been exceptional. The Packers have been exceptional at 258 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: bouncing back from a loss and not allowing it to snowball. 259 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: I wrote last week, coming off the by you have 260 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: to be able to keep the train moving. They didn't 261 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. Well, you have to find a way 262 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: to get it back on the tracks this week against 263 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: the Texans. Yeah. Absolutely. And Matt Lafleur's track record here 264 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: in nearly a season and a half at the helm 265 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: of the Packers, probably the most impressive thing, quite frankly, 266 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: that he's done is that he is more than twenty 267 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: games into his NFL coaching NFL head coaching career, and 268 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: he has yet to lose back to back games. And 269 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: that is the trend that the Packers are going to 270 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: hang their hat on. That Matt Lafleur will hang his 271 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: hat on and uh and get this team back going 272 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: in the right direction offensively. I really look for the 273 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: Packers to bounce back big time in this game. Houston's 274 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: defense has struggled. They've They've have given up a lot 275 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: of points. Yes, they've got some playmakers on that side 276 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: of the ball, don't get me wrong, But this is 277 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: a defense that I think the Packers can get the 278 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: offense back to a to both the the efficiency and 279 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: the explosiveness that we've seen that we saw through the 280 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: first month of the season. The defensive side of the 281 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: ball is where I'm a little bit more concerned because 282 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: the Packers are gonna hear all week from you know, 283 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: the pundits, the writers, everything about how they're not getting 284 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: any pressure on the quarterback. The sack numbers are down 285 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: from you know, the Smiths and others. The pressure numbers 286 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: are down. You know, all the metrics are showing that. 287 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: But you mentioned the guy's name, Deshaun Watson. You have 288 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: to be careful with how you pressure this guy. The 289 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Packers can't go into the game thinking, oh, this is 290 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: all about getting pressure on the quarterback because we haven't 291 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: done that. Because Deshaun Watson will kill you with his 292 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: legs if you don't rush the quarterback in the proper fashion. 293 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: So this is not going to be a game about 294 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: statistics for the pass rush to the sacks or whatever. 295 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: This is going to be about in in the bigger picture, 296 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: how you go about defending Deshaun Watson. And you have 297 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: to defend him differently than you defend a lot of 298 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. You really do, and Watson is such an 299 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: interesting case study, especially this year, because if you break 300 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: down his stats against basically no pressure, the guy is 301 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: just eating people alive right now against four man rushes. 302 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: I think he has like an like an hundred and 303 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: eighteen passer rating. Teams have blitzed him more this year, 304 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: and that's where I think is passer rating. I don't 305 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: quote me on this for sure, I want to say 306 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: it's in the seventies when they've successfully blitzed him. But 307 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: the catch twenty two two, that's the tradeoff is what 308 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: happens if you don't get home and how does he 309 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: hurt you if you don't have a spy on him, 310 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: if he's able to escape the pocket. There's a lot 311 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: of those extended, off schedule type plays that he can create, 312 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: not only with his feet but also with his arm. 313 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Oh and then, by the way, he has one of 314 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: the most explosive targets in the National Football League. And 315 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: Will Fuller that can really hurt you if you let 316 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: him get deep on you on a go ball. So 317 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: you know they they've added some tools. I know a 318 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,479 Speaker 1: lot was made out of the DeAndre Hopkins trade and 319 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: and you know you can it's kind of water under 320 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: the bridge at this point with Bill O'Brien no longer 321 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: as the head coach and GM, but you have to 322 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: look at the roster that sits in front of you, 323 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: Will Fuller, Brandon Cooks, and obviously Randall Cobbs, a guy 324 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: the Packers are incredibly, incredibly knowledgeable about. And then David 325 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: Johnson's a guy too that can hurt you with his hands. 326 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: There are weapons there and it's an opponent you can't 327 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: take lightly. Yeah, and here's the thing was when you 328 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: look at we talked about it last week with Atlanta, 329 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: right they change head coaches. It relieves some of that pressure. 330 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: The players aren't under this big cloud as to what's 331 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And the Falcons go into Minneapolis and get 332 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: their first victory of the season. The Texans did that 333 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: a cup of weeks ago. They move on from Bill O'Brien, 334 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: They get a win over the Jaguars. They take an 335 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: undefeated Tennessee team down to the wire. This talented roster, 336 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: they're playing a little more loose. They don't have the 337 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: tension that was surrounding everything with the future of the 338 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: head coach. And this is a team that's going to 339 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: be ready to play on Sunday. And Matt Lafleur has 340 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: been delivering that message to his team and to the 341 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: Packers fans well. And you saw it. Even not to 342 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: use the analogy again of the two thousand eighteen season 343 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: with the Packers, but I thought you were going to 344 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: go back to the cup of coffee. I can definitely 345 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: do that if you want. Okay, did you have your 346 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: coffee this morning? No? But you go back to that 347 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: eighteen season with the Packers, And as difficult as that 348 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: week was when the Packers made the decision to move 349 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: on from Mike McCarthy. They went into that Falcons game 350 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: with Joe Philbin and you really could tell there was 351 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: this we have nothing to lose type mindset. There's something 352 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: about when you make a coaching change that it just 353 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: seems to as you said, it gives you this sort 354 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: of freedom that it's just like, let's just go play. 355 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: Let's not overthink this, because this wasn't The Texans made 356 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 1: these moves they made in the offseason, the extension, the trade, 357 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: all that stuff, because they expected to compete this year. 358 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: They were coming off a playoff appearance, several of them 359 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: under Bill O'Brien. So now they have a team that's 360 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: still really talented, and now they have more of a 361 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: freer mindset, and I think that's the danger. That's the 362 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: thing you have to shield against now going up into 363 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: this matchup, which again nrg Field, no one else wants 364 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: to hear this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Still 365 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: the only NFL stadium other than the ones that were 366 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: just built, that I haven't been to yet. So when 367 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: you and it only happens once every eight years unless 368 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: they play a preseason game there, But you and I, 369 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: when COVID's done and where everything's fine again, whatever year 370 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: that is. You and I are road tripping down to 371 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: Houston so I can actually go to the stadium. Thank 372 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: you very much. I was there. I've been there once. 373 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: Two thousand twelve. I was rubbing in. I was there 374 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers throwing the six touchdown passes on Sunday 375 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Night football to beat the Texans. You know. I so 376 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: I have been to the stadium no where. It was 377 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: in watching that you were watching that, you were watching 378 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: it on television. Okay, Well, the here's the other thing, 379 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: not that the Packers need anything else to get their 380 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: attention after the way they performed and you're in that 381 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: bounce back mode. It's it's that whole reset, refocus and 382 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: everything like that. But the other element to this west 383 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: is however they look it up these days on the 384 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: phone on the computer, the NFC North, the Packers are 385 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: looking up at somebody. The Chicago Bears are five and one. 386 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: The Packers are four and one. For everything that was 387 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: going so swimming, lee and so smoothly through the first 388 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: four games, and the Packers were four and oh and 389 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you're on top of the world there. 390 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: You're one of only two undefeated teams in the NFC 391 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: along with Seattle. Now suddenly you're not even in first 392 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: place in your own division. And the Bears this coming week, 393 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: I believe they play on Monday Night Football. So the 394 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: Packers won, So the Packers won't even know what's going 395 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: on with the Bears or anything when they take the 396 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: field on on Sunday in Houston, because the best the 397 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Packers are going to be able to do is tie 398 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: them for first place at five and one. So it's 399 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: just another thing to to lock in mentally because this 400 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: this is going to be a dog fight in the 401 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: division from here on out. The Bears are gonna be 402 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: taking on the NFC East leading Los Angeles Rams in 403 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: that matchup. So, uh no, you're right though. This is 404 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: what I love. And so many people are quick to 405 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: dog on the Bears for the start. Don't dog on 406 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: them there. It's a good football team. Have they had issues, Yeah, 407 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: a lot of teams have had issues to this point 408 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: of the season, but they're the Bears are winning, and 409 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to draw these comparisons of the Packers 410 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: last year. I will continue until the day that I 411 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: am no longer even on this earth, going to tell you, 412 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen Packers were a dang good football team. 413 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: They were a thirteen and three football team. No matter 414 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: what you know. The saber metrics people want to say, 415 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: it's difficult to win in this league, and the Bears 416 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: aren't doing it the same way the Packers. They're doing 417 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: it their own way. But how what is the one 418 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: parallel winning close games, finding ways to victory. The Bears 419 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: have done it and they deserve to be five and one. 420 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay needs to keep pace now, Yeah, absolutely well. 421 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: We will talk a little bit more about this Packers 422 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 1: Texans matchup on our other episode later this week, but 423 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: for now, we'll call it a wrap on this edition 424 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: of Packers on Script, and be sure to follow all 425 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: of our coverage of the team all week long on 426 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Packers dot com for Wes, I am Mike. Thank you 427 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: for tuning in, everybody, See you next time.