1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: It's Monday, the twenty seventh of November here in London. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak Here at podcast. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm Caroline Hepke and I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister tells Bloomberg he'll prioritize tax cuts over 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 3: more money for public services. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: Israel and Hamas look to keep the temporary truth in 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: place as more hostages off freed. 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 3: And grappling with a growing backlash. Elon Musk will meet 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: Israel's president as the controversy over antisemitism continues. 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our chop stories. 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: Ritchie Soonac says public services will need to become more 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: efficient with the money they have to fund his desire 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: for more tax cuts. In an exclusive interview with Bloomberg, 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister denied that the tax cutting strategy will 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 3: lead to a significant squeeze on government spending. Here's what 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: he told our colleague Francine Laque. 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 4: Government spending in the UK right now is a very 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 4: high levels. Historically over this parliament, It's grown at very 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: high levels even in real times after the impact of inflation. 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: So I think any commentary or accusations that's what's happening 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 4: is just simply unfounded. Government's already spending a lot of 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: people's money, and what we need to see going forward 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 4: is more productivity out of the public sector. Needs to 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: match what we've seen in the private sector post COVID, 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 4: and I'd rather focus on efficiency in the public sector 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: and prioritize cutting people's taxes rather than the government spending 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: ever more of their money. 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: The comment's com as Tunax. Government battles criticism that last 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: week's twenty one billion pounds of business and personal tax 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: cuts will lead to austerity. That's after the UK's fiscal watchdog, 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: the Office for Budget Responsibility, said the giveaways would need 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: to be funded by a nineteen billion pound reduction in 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: real terms government spending. 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: Now, Israel and Hamas have signaled that a temporary cease 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: fire could be extended beyond Monday. Under the current agreement, 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: Hamas is releasing fifty hostages in exchange for one hundred 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: and fifty Israeli held prisoners. The pause in fighting between 39 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: the too is due to end tomorrow morning unless further 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: captives are released, but even if it is extended, Israeli 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Benjamin Nettnia, who says the truce won't be 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: made permanent. 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: I want to say there is also an outline that 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: says you can release ten more every additional day. It 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: is a blessed thing. But in the same breath, I 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: also told the President that at the end of the outline, 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: we will return with all our strength to realize our 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: goal the elimination of. 49 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: Hamas Benjamin Nettnill, who they're speaking through a translator. After 50 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: holding talks at the weekend with US President Joe Biden, 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: two hundred AID trucks entered Gaza on Sunday, with the 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: humanitarian pause largely holding since going into effect. 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: Elon Musk will today meet with the Israeli President and 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: representatives of families of hostages held in Gaza. The closed 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: door meeting appears to be an effort to diffuse a 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: growing backlash over the billionaire's endorsement to an anti Semitic tweet. 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: While Musk has drawn support from notable figures including Hedge 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: fund manager Bill Ackman, others, including Rishi Sunak, say the 59 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 3: Tesla and SpaceX chief shouldn't be given a pass because 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: of who he is. 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: I don't tend to get in the business of scrutinizing 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: what every single person says who I've interacted with. Of 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: course I bore anti Semitism. It doesn't matter whether you're 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: Elon Musk or you're someone on the street who's shouting 65 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: abuse at someone who happens to be walking past you. 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 4: That's wrong in all its forms. Anti Semitism in all 67 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: its forms, is completely and utterly wrong. 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: Sunak's careful criticism comes just weeks after the British Prime 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: Minister had a fireside conversation with Musk at the UK's 70 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Ai summit. The comments that stop short of the full 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: throated condemnation by US President Joe Biden, who said the 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: billionaire's tweet was a quote a barrant promotion of anti 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: Semitic and racist hate. 74 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: Report suggests that President Joe Biden will miss this year's 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: COP twenty eight summit to vote to devote time to 76 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: the Israeli Hamas com. According to The New York Times, 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: he will skip the talks for the first time in 78 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: two years. Leaders and officials for more than two hundred 79 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: countries are expected to attend the UN Climate Summit in 80 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: Dubai that begins on Thursday, which is being led by 81 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: Sultan al Jabbar, who is the CEO of the Abu 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: Dhabi National All Company or ADNOCK. The news comes after 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: Joe Biden called climate change the quote ultimate threat to 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: humanity earlier this month. 85 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: UK lawmakers call for regular reviews of the Bank of 86 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: England after recent mistakes. Bloomberg's Teama Atabayo has the details. 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 5: The House of Lords Economic Affairs Committee wants UK lawmakers 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 5: to assess the central Bank every five years after a 89 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 5: string of quote errors that let inflation surge. Members of 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 5: the committee, including former Governor Mervyn king A, pushing for 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: the Bank of England's remit to be trimmed in a 92 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 5: report marking twenty five years of its independence. Despite being 93 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 5: critical of its decision making, the law's committee recognizes that 94 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: the BOE is not the only central bank that failed 95 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 5: to anticipate to high inflation, which revealed a quote lack 96 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 5: of diversity of view in the wider central bank community. 97 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 5: The calls come at a time when public confidence in 98 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 5: the institution is at a record low. According to its 99 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 5: own survey, forty percent of the British public say central 100 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 5: bank policy makers are doing a bad job of handling inflation. 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: In London, TIWA Adubio, Bloomberg Radio No. 102 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: In a moment, we'll get the latest on Gaza and 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: the possibility of extending that temporary cease fire with our 104 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: Middley s breaking news eder Dana Krate. But another story 105 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: that cot Ari this morning is ahead of Cup twenty 106 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: eight this week. Of course we're talking about Joe Biden 107 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: not going there to the summers according to those reports. 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: But the UN's Food Agency is put out a report 109 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: which will call in the world's richest countries or people 110 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: rather therein to curb their access of appetite for meat. 111 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: This is part of a plan to bring the global 112 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: agri food industry in line with the Paris Climate Agreement. 113 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: Food systems account for about a third of global greenhouse 114 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: gas emissions, a lot of that footprint linked to livestock farming, 115 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: and this is going to be an effort, not a 116 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: binding commitment that they're looking for from these countries, but 117 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: nonetheless a plan that governments can sign up to for 118 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: that then to influence policy and particularly investment decisions in 119 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: the agrifood industry and what government attitude. 120 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 6: Is to us. Yeah. 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: Look, I think a lot of governments in rich countries 122 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: have been loaths to sort of tell people to eat 123 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: less meat, and indeed that there has been a controversy 124 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: over that politically here in the UK. On the other hand, 125 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: in Britain, certainly we've seen less meat eating, partly the 126 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: cost of living crisis, but also perhaps that sort of 127 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: health message about you know, eating less process meatless red meat. 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: But certainly the consumption in the UK has gone dow 129 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: though still you know, as the ued is pointed to 130 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: too hot. 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, look in any of the big agricultural countries, this 132 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: is going to be a very controversial statement, something that 133 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: I think that the UN Food Agency is preparing for 134 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: and putting out this plan as well. But nonetheless that 135 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: has to come in the context, of course of the 136 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: challenges being faced of trying to address climate change as well, 137 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: and how the agrifield industry needs to take part in that. 138 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 7: Absolutely. 139 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: Anyway, it's a piece on the Bloomberg Tunel if you 140 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: want to read more. Of course, head of the cop 141 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: Metia on Thursday. Let's turn our attention though to the 142 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Big interview this morning. Prime Minister Ishi Sunak has brushed 143 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: aside criticism that his government is pushing Britain into another 144 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: phase of austerity. The Prime Minister has been speaking to 145 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: Bloomberg exclusively ahead of the UK's Global Investments summit, which 146 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: will include the bosses of Blackstone, Golden Sachs and others. 147 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Here he is speaking to Bloomberg's Francis Laqua in Downing Street. 148 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: The story of the UK is an economy that has 149 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: got real momentum. So I've been Prime Minister for just 150 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: over a year. During that time, we've halved inflation as 151 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: I said we would do. We've known now that the 152 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: UK economy has recovered faster from the pandemic than pretty 153 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: much any other major European economy, and over the long 154 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: term we're still forecast to outperform measure European economies. But crucially, 155 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: business investment has grown faster than any other G seven 156 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: economy over the last few years. And I think ultimately, 157 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: if you want to drive growth and productivity in an economy, 158 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: you need businesses to be investing. We have more momentum 159 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: for business investment here than anywhere else. So look, I 160 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: feel actually very positive about the long term growth outlook 161 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: for the UK. 162 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 8: So do you think the OBR is actually going to 163 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 8: have to revise them upwards. Are you confident that the 164 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 8: numbers will come in so that you can continue cutting tax. 165 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: What I can tell you is that when I became 166 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: Prime Minister just over a year ago, not just the OBR, 167 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: but also the Bank of England, the OECD and the IMF, 168 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: all of them predicted that the UK would be in 169 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: recession this year. That hasn't happened. We put in place 170 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 4: a set of policies to ensure that it didn't and 171 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: I'm delighted the UK economy has outperformed all of those 172 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: and has grown this year better than anybody thoughts. So look, 173 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: I've got a track record in outperforming what people think 174 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: and the as I said, the UK economy has real 175 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: momentum now inflation has been halved, business investment is growing 176 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: faster than elsewhere, and as said, we've got commitments totally 177 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: almost thirty billion pounds for our summit. It's significantly more 178 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 4: than we've had in the past. So I think that 179 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: shows that investors and companies are voting with their pounds 180 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: and their dollars, and that shows that there is confidence 181 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: in the economy and that's what makes me think we're 182 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: poised for strong growth. 183 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 8: But Premimus if you look at inflation, if you actually 184 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 8: exclude energy, it's about you been down by like a fifth, 185 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 8: So I don't know how much credit the government can 186 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 8: actually take on that well. 187 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: Actually, if you look at core inflation, it's pretty much 188 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: middle of a pack for European economies. Forecast next year 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: to be lower than the Eurozone, and I think in 190 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: the US the last numbers I checked, So actually the 191 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 4: momentum inflation is downwards and coming down faster than peers 192 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: over the course of the next twelve months. If you 193 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: look at the forecast, and we're making sure that we 194 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 4: are disciplined with borrowing, ultimately, what investors are looking at 195 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 4: to make sure that fiscal policy is sensible. We're not 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 4: fueling the inflationary fire. We're being sensible on public sector 197 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: wage settlements, and actually you're seeing that feed through to 198 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: the economy and has said we're also improving labor supply. 199 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: If I talked to businesses, you know what they're keen 200 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: to see is access to labor. We're making sure that 201 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: our labor market remains flexible, that we're moving people off 202 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 4: welfare and into work. All of those things are contributing 203 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: to I think downward momentum on inflation premier. 204 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 8: Sure, if the OBR is actually right in their forecast, 205 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 8: what does it mean where you can actually find some 206 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 8: spending freeze or actually cuts. 207 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 4: Well, what we've just delivered are significant tax cuts, significant 208 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 4: tax cuts for business, significant tax cuts for everybody in work. 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: That's what our autumn statement last week did, I think, 210 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: the biggest tax cuts in one event since the nineteen eighties. 211 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 4: Just to give people a sense of scale. For business, 212 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: what we're doing is making full expensing permanent, so we 213 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: will be the only major at G seven economy certainly 214 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: and even broader than that, where you get a total 215 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 4: rite off against your taxes for capital investment. That's an 216 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: incredibly generous regime to attract business investment. And it comes 217 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: on top of the fat that our corporation tax right 218 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: here is lower than any other G seven economy. And 219 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: when it comes to individuals in work, we've just delivered 220 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: a very significant personal tax cut that will put four 221 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pounds extra in the bank accounts of 222 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 4: a typical person in work over the next twelve months, 223 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: which will also need to be good for consumption as. 224 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 8: Well, that you have to find money in for example, 225 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 8: departments where you know that voters actually want you to 226 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 8: spend more in certain departments. So are you comfortable as 227 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 8: possibly being Prime Minister of austerity. 228 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 4: No, that's simply not the case. Actually, government spending in 229 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 4: the UK right now is a very high levels historically 230 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: over this parliament. It's grown at very high levels even 231 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: in real terms after the impact of inflation. So I 232 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: think any commentary or accusation that's what's happening is just 233 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 4: simply unfounded. And we're at a point now, given how 234 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: people are feeling, given the amount that's being spent, where 235 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: I think the priority has got to be luring the 236 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: tax burden. Government's already spending a lot of people's money, 237 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 4: and what we need to see going forward is more 238 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: productivity out of the public sector needs to match what 239 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: we've seen in the private sector post COVID, and I'd 240 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: rather focus on efficiency in the public sector and prior 241 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: time cutting people's taxes rather than the government's funding ever 242 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: more of their money. That's the point I think, and 243 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: I'm very clear that that is the choice that we 244 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: are making. 245 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 8: But even if the voter doesn't necessarily feel that tax 246 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 8: cuts because of inflation going up, so how much more. 247 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 8: Can you cut taxes in April and beyond. 248 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 4: Well, it wouldn't be right to speculate on future events. 249 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 4: We're just still digesting the one we've had, which, as 250 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: I said, delivered the biggest tax cuts since any event 251 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: since the nineteen eighties. But what I have said is 252 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: that this is the start of a journey. And you 253 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 4: know I meant that when I said, look, after we 254 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: got inflation down, I wanted to focus on making sure 255 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: that we reward people's hard work, making sure that we 256 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: grow the economy and responsibly cutting taxes. And you know, 257 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: when we can do more, we will, because that's the 258 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: direction of travel here now. 259 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: So that was the Prime Minister there, speaking to Blomberg's 260 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: fancy in Laqua. Also in that interview issue, Sunak offered 261 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: some careful, measured criticism of Elon Mask for promoting antisemitism 262 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: on X, saying anti Semitism in all its forms is 263 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: completely and utterly wrong. 264 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: The at least next and there's a possibility that Israel 265 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: and Hamas could extend the temporary cease firing Gaza to 266 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: allow for the release of more hostages and prisoners. Over 267 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: the past three days, Hamas has handed over fifty eight hostages, 268 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: while Israel has freed one hundred and seventeen Palestinian women 269 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: and miners held in its presence. Joining us now for 270 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: more is Bloomberg's Midleast Breaking news editor Dana Create and 271 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 3: a good morning to you. Good to have you with us. 272 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: Today is the last planned day of the ceasefire. How 273 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: likely is it that it will be extended? 274 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 6: There are talks of an extension, Cutter said yesterday. Cutter, 275 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 6: the main mediator in the hostage release and the Truth, 276 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 6: said yesterday that it is working on the political level 277 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 6: to extend the Truth, and President Biden also showed that 278 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 6: the US wants that ceasefire extended to allow more hostages 279 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 6: to be released. But there's a detail there that's been overlooked, 280 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 6: and it's what Cutter's Prime minister said yesterday and today 281 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 6: in an interview. Actually he said that more than forty 282 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 6: other women and children were being kept captive in Gaza 283 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 6: who were not believed to be held by Hamas, so 284 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 6: either by civilians or gangs. He said, the Truth and 285 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 6: its extension could be extended if Hamas was able to 286 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 6: use the pause in the conflict. 287 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 7: To locate these hostages. 288 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 6: So the onset of the crisis, when it happened, and 289 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 6: when after of course Hamas infiltrated Israel. 290 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 7: Hamas itself and its officials said. 291 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 6: We know how many we are holding, we don't know 292 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 6: how many the others are holding. And this could come 293 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 6: out to be kind of a difficult thing to actually 294 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 6: locate the hostages, so that the extension might depend on that, 295 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 6: on whether there is and whether Hamas can actually locate 296 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 6: the hostages. 297 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that on the situation with hostages and Gaza. 298 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: What is happening with humanitarian aid to Gaza. 299 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 6: Hundreds of trucks have entered Gaza, including fuel trucks, food 300 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 6: and also non feud items. So the pause has allowed 301 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 6: the UN to scale up the delivery of assistance into 302 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 6: and across Gaza, and Cutter said yesterday that for the 303 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 6: first time since the war began, food trucks and aid 304 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 6: actually entered the northern sector of Gaza, where the main 305 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 6: ground operation of Israel was concentrated. 306 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 7: And so that was a good signal. 307 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 6: But of course everyone including the UN, is saying we 308 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 6: need more to come in, and that could also have 309 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 6: a potential impact on whether the truth could be extended 310 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 6: or not. 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