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Thank you for checking in. Travis Scott, 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.800 what's up, brother? What to do? How you feeling? Uh? 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:13.880 You know, um, as you I've been on about like 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.760 different type of like emotions, you know, emotional roller coaster. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:26.680 I mean, um, it gets so hard because you know, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.320 I'm so I always felt like connected with my fans 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:31.880 and you know, I went through something you know, and 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.040 I feel like fans went through something and people's parents 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.680 went do something, and you know it really you know, 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.639 it hurts. It hurts the community, hurts a city. And 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.160 it's just been a lot of thoughts, you know, a 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:47.560 lot of feelings, a lot of grieving m and just 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.520 you know, trying to get you wrapped my head around it. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.400 You know, I really just really wanted to be there, 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.560 um and just you know, wish you could just kind 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.400 of like hold everyone, you know, um, kind of just 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:06.720 healed them, talk to them. I have conversations, Um, you know, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.560 it just it just you know, it really hurts. Man. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.600 What's your what's your intention with this conversation? Like like 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.600 what do you hope to get out of this or 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.360 what do you hope to get out I don't personally 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.680 have an intention. I just feel like something happened and 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:28.560 I feel like it's just, um, I needed just a 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:34.360 way to kind of like communicate, you know, one. You know, 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.480 the families are grieving, you know, as fans that experienced something, 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.880 as fans that came to a show, you know. And 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.880 I feel like I just have like a I've always 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:51.160 been that person always see things through the people that 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:57.120 shared experiences with me, and you know, it's just things happening, 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.800 you know, I just kind of, you know, it's been 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:03.640 such a such a time and I've just been trying 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.120 to just really figure things out, you know, and I 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:11.000 know you, I'm sure you're experiencing remorse. But was there 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:15.440 any hesitation to have this conversation because of the litigation 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.000 you may be facing? Well, I mean yeah, of course 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.160 you got people it's just like, oh what like you know, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:29.560 but um, it's not about that, you know, it's you know, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.840 your artists, you whoever people think you are. At the 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:33.960 end of the day, you're a human being. You know, 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.520 you have emotions. Um, you want to communicate them emotions, 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.560 you know, and trying to find the best way to 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.640 communicate you know, how you just feeling, you know, how 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.479 have you been coping with the aftermath of everything? Just 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.720 just just emotionally, just you as a huge I've been 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.240 just in a room for a while, you know, a 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.440 lot of thoughts and luckily, you know, um you have 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.839 people around that you kind of outside ideas. But it 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.039 just been you know, I been doing this for such 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.720 a long time, and you know, you nothing like this 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.800 ever happened, you know, so it just kind of like 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.479 you just kind of figuring out and at the end 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.200 of the day, like these fans of your family, so 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.479 you just feel like you lost lost something and you 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.360 just like you go. You do these shows honestly to 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.240 you know, for people to have the best experience, you know, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.960 and just to think that something like this happened. You 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.600 just trying to figure out you know, you know, just 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.559 wrap everything around. And so even just for the first 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.120 couple a couple of weeks, you know, it was just 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.800 me sitting down, but I had to really channel these 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.599 emotions to just remember, like, you know, if no one's 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.120 gonna be a voice for these people, I gotta like 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.680 kind of step up and kind of like be a 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.239 voice to just figure out that, you know, this isn't 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.480 happened in the future. The show is period, you know 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.640 what I'm saying, or figure out the bottom solution of 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.440 what's going on, and just trying to ensure its people, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.080 you know, safety and what they're doing. You know, you 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:58.560 said you was in the room, but then people saw 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.480 you had at the golf course. Yeah, but with Michael Jordan, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:06.560 Mark Wahlberg, what what was that? Um? It was just Thanksgiving? Um, 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.880 you know they were there. You know, it's just good 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.760 people to have around in the community, and you know 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.080 that was just more like a personal time, just trying 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.600 to get around. I think like some fan came and 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:23.000 asked for a photo. But yeah, let's talk about that night. Man. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.640 When when did you When did you find out things 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.960 got as bad as they did? That's that's the question 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.520 everybody wants to know. Yeah, it wasn't really until like 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.120 minutes until like the press conference, until I figured out 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.039 exactly what happened. You know, Um, even after the show, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.039 you know, you're just kind of hearing hearing things, but 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.239 you don't know, I didn't know the exact details until 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:47.000 you know, minutes before the press conference. And even at 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.600 that moment you kind of just like wait, you know what, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.600 like you know, you just went through something and it's 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.520 just like wait what you know, So you didn't know 0:06:55.560 --> 0:07:00.200 people that actually passed away, wow, until minutes before you know, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.640 just yeah, you know, and at the thing, it's like, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.240 you know, people pass out, you know people, you know, 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:17.360 things happen at concerts, but something like that. It's just like, yeah, 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.480 people said they are collectively they collectively heard folk scream 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.280 and help every time you stop the song to get 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.640 your attention. Did you did you hear any of those screams? Nah? Man? 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.440 And you know it's so crazy because I'm not I'm 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.760 not artist too. Like, you know, anytime you can or 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.840 something like that, you want to stop the show. You 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.520 want to make sure, you know, fans get the proper 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.560 attention they need, you know, And anytime I could see 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.320 anything like that, I did, you know, you know, I 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.320 stopped like a couple of times to just make sure 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.280 everybody was okay, and I just really just go off 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.800 the you know, the fans energy as a collective, you know, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.960 call a response. And I just didn't. I just didn't 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.800 hear that. You know, I got music a couple in years, 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.200 but I just didn't. I just didn't hear that. You know, 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.440 break that down a little more like Nope, nobody knows 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:06.119 what it's like being on stage except for other artists 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.760 will speak to us from that perspective of what you 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.160 can see in here. It was like fifty thousand people. Yeah, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.239 I mean, you got like a video, you know, feel 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.560 like fifty thousand people. But it's like a see you 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.280 got lights, you got sound, you got pyrot, you know, 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.200 you got your interears, got your sound, got your mic, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.200 you know, got the music, you got band is all 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.640 type of you know, stuff going on. So it's hard. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.520 It's hard to tell excitement from from from dangerous or 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.800 to speak. Of course, everything kind of just sounds the same. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.720 And at the end of the day, you just hear music, 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.800 you know, and when you do, you just hear amongst 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.800 the things you know. But you just when you're in 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.920 the show, you just into the show, and anytime you 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.400 can feel anything closely, you know, you try to like 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.080 definitely get to that. So so as an artist, how 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:54.320 much can you actually, I guess helping that position. You 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.360 can only help what you can see, you know what 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.640 I mean. And then what you know, whatever you told, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.319 what I'm saying. Whenever it somebody tell you to stop, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:09.680 you just stop. But just wasn't it was It wasn't 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.240 that night, huh. You know, raging. Raging has been a 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.560 part of the culture, you know, of your shows. You know, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:16.679 you didn't on this night, but in the past you've 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.280 encouraged I guess the kind of energy that could have 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.240 led to something like this happening. Do you think that 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.840 contributed to the energy of this night? Yeah? Nah, I think, 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.200 you know, it's something I've been working on, you know 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.520 for a while, um of just creating these experiences and 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.920 trying to show like the experiences happening in a safe environment. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.680 You know, us as artists, we trust you know, professionals 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.440 to make sure that you know, things happen to people leave, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.080 you know, safely. You know what I'm saying. Um, and 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.520 it's night just like a regular show. You know, it 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.200 felt like to me um as far as like you know, 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.640 the energy people, it didn't feel like it was like, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.920 you know, people didn't I don't people didn't show up 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.480 there to just be harmful people just I think showed 0:09:58.559 --> 0:09:59.960 up to have a good time. And then you know, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.440 something unfortunate happened, and I think we really just got 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.679 to figure out, you know what that was. You know, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.079 does raging make it harder to identify when something is 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.400 going wrong in the crowd? Well, I think, you know, 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.480 raging is just a you know, they have a textbook, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:20.160 you know definition. But you know, in concerts, we've grown 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.720 it to be just experience of having fun. It's not 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.520 about just oh, harm, It's not about that. It's about 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.720 just letting go and having fun. You know, help others, 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:35.200 no love each other. It's not about just you know, harm, 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.120 That's not what it's all about. The show isn't just 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.199 rambunctious for an hour. You know, that's not what it 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.120 is that Trust me, I grew up on crunk, So 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.679 you know, I understand. You know, you just don't you 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.280 don't want it to get two out of hand. Yeah, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.640 but you know the code. You know, energy is high, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.120 you know, and you know, and that's why you want 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.440 to just make sure that, you know, people are surrounded, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.440 to make sure that people are just having the best experience. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.960 You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't say 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.680 the energy is high, but you know you want to 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.880 make sure that people are there for people to have 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.120 like the best experience in league. Yeah, you want people 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.000 to have a good time. You want people to get 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.560 yeah at all. Yeah. Yeah, and you know, God a 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.360 bid passed away, and you know it's typical for you 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.920 to stop a show to make sure fans in the 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.240 crowd get to help, you know, they need it. Even 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.880 footage that night of you doing that during the set 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.680 where you unable to sense like a difference in urgency 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.800 this time I run, I mean yeah, because you know 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.920 you stop the show. But you know, you know, if 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.560 someone's gonna happen, if it's something detrimental, somebody's gonna let 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.920 you know, you know, or you know, the show just stop. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.080 And you know that just wasn't the case. You know, 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:45.840 I just kind of stopped the show. You know, you 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.120 just asked, you have a call in response with the fans. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.080 Um you try to, you know, generally get a response, 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:55.560 but you know, if you don't get like a hard stop, 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.960 you know, it's just you can't. You just don't you 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:00.880 just go off of what's going on, you know, which 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:07.040 makes it so like so crazy because like, you know, 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.480 if I feel like, if you know, anyone wouldn't know, 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.079 and it would have just been like it wouldn't have 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.720 gotten far. You know, what headspace were you win when 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.600 you posted that that initial that initial response video. I 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.040 mean it was I think it had to been the 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.440 night of you know, um, so I was just in 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.439 a headspace of just trying to get a communication out 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.280 to my fans, you know, and I had literally no information, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.320 you know, so I was just trying to figure it 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:37.640 out and just communicate to them. You know. Yeah, I 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.760 was just reacting just literally just to get something to 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.480 the fans. You know, it's people that showed up. Do 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.080 you regret that initial video. Do you regret reacting in 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:48.960 that way or not, like not having all the information 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.560 before you said something. I mean yeah, because you know, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.520 you just don't know what's going on. But at the 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.040 end of the day, I don't, you know, I just 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.080 wanted to get something out. You know, how my message 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.240 came out, I can't you know, I can only go 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.320 off for that, you know what I know. But my 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.680 Truman titchs of it, you know, was really just trying 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.280 to get a message across. And you know, I really 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.000 wanted to just touching the fans, touching the families, you 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.280 know that we here were grieving and we would get 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.600 through this, you know, through this process. So what did 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.720 you know in that first video? I mean, at that time, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.600 I think we just knew that you know, people passed. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.360 You know, um, we didn't know how you know that 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.559 it was you know, the news. You know, I think 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.720 police came out and said something. Um, you know, you're 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.320 just going off of what you're seeing in the in 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.440 the in the news. You know, you don't really know nothing. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.439 And then as it did go on, you started collect 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.760 a little bit more information. They said there was there 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.760 was like chaos and trampling being reported since the early afternoon, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.240 like like hours before the show even started. Were you 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.800 informed of any of that ahead of time? Well, no, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.319 like um and um you know, the police he came, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.600 he came in um to my trailer and you know, 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.800 he congratulated me on you know, the event and you 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.280 know having something like this in Houston. He let me 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.439 know that it was you know, mishap at the merch 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.360 boof earlier. You know they shut it down, what they 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.440 opened it back up. They she even got it under control. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.559 You know, he was gonna step out and just let 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.840 us know if we need anything, you know, have a 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.800 good show. That was it. You know a lot of 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.440 the criticism, you know from the tragedy they say is 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.680 and the poor planning and understaffing of the end of 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.080 the event. As an artist, do you have any involvement 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.680 in any of that? Well, I mean we just as 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.720 an artist, you just do the creative and for this 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.560 being my festival, you know I got you know, bring 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.800 artists you know creatively produce it and you know we're 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.080 just trusting you know, the professionals to kind of just 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.040 make sure that you know people, you know, taking care 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.440 of and you know, leaving safely. You know, I just 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.240 can control what I can on the stage, and then 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.080 you know you have the professionals control what they can 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.200 in the crowd. You know, it's just hard because as 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.000 an artist, you know, you want to have like the 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.960 best shows and you want to have the best experiences, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:00.680 and you you know, you link with professionals to handle 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:05.920 that side of it, you know, and you know, you 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.560 want to know what's going on. I think that's what 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.760 we got to figure out, you know, and figure out 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.240 what happened there, how that happened. You know, you spoke 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.240 on the Houston Police chief. His name is that Troy Finney. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.880 He came to you and he said he voiced concerns 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.800 over the crowd energy. So what did you and your 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.400 team like do with that information? Well, I think that's 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.520 what the media. Um, I think that's what the media said. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.080 But I think I think it read too more so 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.040 that he wanted us to He knew that our crowd was, 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.920 you know, the type of crowd it comes, it comes 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.560 to a heavy crowd. So to communicate with him if 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.560 we were doing anything outside of the week's itinerary. You know, Um, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.480 that week we were doing like a lot of charity 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.040 stuff prior to the festival, so you know the security 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.520 at most of the events. But you know, he was 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.360 just letting this you know, I guess that statement. He 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.200 was just saying, if we do anything outside of what 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:57.240 we had on our itinerary, let him know. But you know, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.760 we didn't even get to that point. It was crazy, 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.360 just you know, being a kicking it with you for 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.440 a little bit. Like I can see that, you know, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.800 this is Wayne real heavy on it. Yeah. So so 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.160 how much do you do you feel a sense of 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:17.280 responsibility for what happened at night? Well, you know, fans 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.320 come to have a come to the show and have 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.680 a good experience, you know, Um, and I have a 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:28.760 responsibility to to figure out what happened here. I have 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:33.760 a responsibility and figure out the solution, you know, and 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.080 I gotta and hopefully this takes the first step into 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.440 you know, us as artists, you know, having that more 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.280 insight of what's going on, you know what I'm saying. Um, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.120 and you know, the professionals to kind of you know, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.600 surround and figure out more of an intel, whether it's tech, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.880 whether it's you know, more of a response whether it's 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.640 whatever the problem is, you know, um to figure out 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.600 that and and and a few before the concert safety 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.520 make sure that's never happened again, you know. But let's 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.720 talk about those professionals, like how much how much responsibility 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.720 do you think, like Live Nation and score more the 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:15.560 promoters having all of this, I mean, you know, they 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.600 do their job of you know, setting these things up. 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.880 So I mean I think you know, they they when 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.639 we dial into what you know, specifically happen here, I 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.480 feel like, you know, even they can kind of help, 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:35.600 you know, figure out what happened in the sense um 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:36.720 you know. But at the end of the day, I 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.240 think collectively everyone needs to just figure out the bottom 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:44.000 line solution. But you know, especially in concert safety, you know, 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.639 definitely got to have you know, make sure that you know, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.920 these things are you know, done right. You think he's 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.280 festivals are too big, man, fifty dollars people with a 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.879 lot of people for anybody to get their festivals that 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:03.159 are bigger, you know, way bigger. And you know, I 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.639 just think it's not about the maximum of it. I 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.399 think it's about the attention to us going on and 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.320 how it's going on, and as long as that's handle, 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.679 I feel like things can be you know, can go okay, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.280 We'll be okay, you know. But if you look at 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.480 it through the history of festivals, you know, this isn't 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.359 the first time having It's been a long history of this, 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.000 you know. So I feel like if you look at 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.800 the overall you know, view of that, and you kind 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.000 of like dolling, Okay, what can we do better to 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.119 fix this overall for general concert safety, I think we 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.480 figure out the problem, you know, and make it better 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.880 for people to have better live experiences. Live Nation reportedly 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.000 agreed to end the concert early after the Houston PD 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.200 and the Fire Department declared that a match casity event, 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.159 but the concert continued for another forty minutes. With that, 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.480 any ever, any communication to you on stage that you 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.920 should in this, well, yeah, I mean it just told 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.840 me right after you know, the guests can get off stage, 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.680 you know, we're gonna end the show, you know, And 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.760 that's what we did. No other than that, there was 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.480 no other communication, you know, so after even after the 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.120 guests what you mean, Yeah, after the guests comes out, Okay, 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:12.680 we're gonna we're gonna end the show. But It wasn't 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.840 a communication on why, you know, it was just you know, 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.920 that's what came through my ears. So they didn't say 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:23.040 stopping now. No. Wow, you feel like people are forcing 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:26.440 more responsibility on you because you are the front man 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:30.280 because it was astral World. Well yeah, I mean, you 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.240 know I'm gonna you know, I'm the face of the festival. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:36.399 You know, I'm I'm an artist, you know. Um, so yeah, 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.359 you know the media is you know, they yeah, they 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.439 want to you know, put it on me in But 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.400 at the end of the day, it's like, I don't 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.240 think it's more so about that. I think it's more 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.879 so about um stepping up to figure out what the 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.440 problem is. And I could take that. I could take 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.080 you know, stepping up to figure out what the problem is. 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.280 I could take stepping into figuring out the solution that 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.760 had never happened to because that's what I generally want 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.320 to do in general, even just for my community. You know. 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.080 The whole idea for why I brought this festival to 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.200 the city was to you know, show that he'ston is 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.600 something different, you know, and show that there's all different 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.679 types of lives, is all different type of energy and 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.080 just bring that morale to the city, um and just 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.239 bring that energy to the city. So I definitely want to, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.720 you know, step in to figure out, you know, how 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.000 can we fix this in the future, what can we 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.359 do to you know, change these things? You know. Do 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.480 you feel like you did everything you possibly could to 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:42.240 help in that situation? Yes, yes, anything I physically can't sure. Yes, 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.960 you know, and and it and it and it just 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:52.040 you know, if knowing you know what's going on, you know, 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:57.680 you would just wish, you know, you know, if you 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.800 you know, could something better, you know. But standing there 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:08.119 thousand percent, you know, we know that the families of 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.560 the people who passed are definitely watching this right now, 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:14.600 and you know, there's nothing you could say to heal 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.879 the trauma these families who lost loved ones are you know, 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.280