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Speaker 1: what's up, brother? What to do? How you feeling? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, um, as you I've been on about like
Speaker 1: different type of like emotions, you know, emotional roller coaster.
Speaker 1: I mean, um, it gets so hard because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm so I always felt like connected with my fans
Speaker 1: and you know, I went through something you know, and
Speaker 1: I feel like fans went through something and people's parents
Speaker 1: went do something, and you know it really you know,
Speaker 1: it hurts. It hurts the community, hurts a city. And
Speaker 1: it's just been a lot of thoughts, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of feelings, a lot of grieving m and just
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get you wrapped my head around it.
Speaker 1: You know, I really just really wanted to be there,
Speaker 1: um and just you know, wish you could just kind
Speaker 1: of like hold everyone, you know, um, kind of just
Speaker 1: healed them, talk to them. I have conversations, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it just it just you know, it really hurts. Man.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your intention with this conversation? Like like
Speaker 1: what do you hope to get out of this or
Speaker 1: what do you hope to get out I don't personally
Speaker 1: have an intention. I just feel like something happened and
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just, um, I needed just a
Speaker 1: way to kind of like communicate, you know, one. You know,
Speaker 1: the families are grieving, you know, as fans that experienced something,
Speaker 1: as fans that came to a show, you know. And
Speaker 1: I feel like I just have like a I've always
Speaker 1: been that person always see things through the people that
Speaker 1: shared experiences with me, and you know, it's just things happening,
Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of, you know, it's been
Speaker 1: such a such a time and I've just been trying
Speaker 1: to just really figure things out, you know, and I
Speaker 1: know you, I'm sure you're experiencing remorse. But was there
Speaker 1: any hesitation to have this conversation because of the litigation
Speaker 1: you may be facing? Well, I mean yeah, of course
Speaker 1: you got people it's just like, oh what like you know,
Speaker 1: but um, it's not about that, you know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: your artists, you whoever people think you are. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're a human being. You know,
Speaker 1: you have emotions. Um, you want to communicate them emotions,
Speaker 1: you know, and trying to find the best way to
Speaker 1: communicate you know, how you just feeling, you know, how
Speaker 1: have you been coping with the aftermath of everything? Just
Speaker 1: just just emotionally, just you as a huge I've been
Speaker 1: just in a room for a while, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts and luckily, you know, um you have
Speaker 1: people around that you kind of outside ideas. But it
Speaker 1: just been you know, I been doing this for such
Speaker 1: a long time, and you know, you nothing like this
Speaker 1: ever happened, you know, so it just kind of like
Speaker 1: you just kind of figuring out and at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, like these fans of your family, so
Speaker 1: you just feel like you lost lost something and you
Speaker 1: just like you go. You do these shows honestly to
Speaker 1: you know, for people to have the best experience, you know,
Speaker 1: and just to think that something like this happened. You
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out you know, you know, just
Speaker 1: wrap everything around. And so even just for the first
Speaker 1: couple a couple of weeks, you know, it was just
Speaker 1: me sitting down, but I had to really channel these
Speaker 1: emotions to just remember, like, you know, if no one's
Speaker 1: gonna be a voice for these people, I gotta like
Speaker 1: kind of step up and kind of like be a
Speaker 1: voice to just figure out that, you know, this isn't
Speaker 1: happened in the future. The show is period, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or figure out the bottom solution of
Speaker 1: what's going on, and just trying to ensure its people,
Speaker 1: you know, safety and what they're doing. You know, you
Speaker 1: said you was in the room, but then people saw
Speaker 1: you had at the golf course. Yeah, but with Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg, what what was that? Um? It was just Thanksgiving? Um,
Speaker 1: you know they were there. You know, it's just good
Speaker 1: people to have around in the community, and you know
Speaker 1: that was just more like a personal time, just trying
Speaker 1: to get around. I think like some fan came and
Speaker 1: asked for a photo. But yeah, let's talk about that night. Man.
Speaker 1: When when did you When did you find out things
Speaker 1: got as bad as they did? That's that's the question
Speaker 1: everybody wants to know. Yeah, it wasn't really until like
Speaker 1: minutes until like the press conference, until I figured out
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. You know, Um, even after the show,
Speaker 1: you know, you're just kind of hearing hearing things, but
Speaker 1: you don't know, I didn't know the exact details until
Speaker 1: you know, minutes before the press conference. And even at
Speaker 1: that moment you kind of just like wait, you know what,
Speaker 1: like you know, you just went through something and it's
Speaker 1: just like wait what you know, So you didn't know
Speaker 1: people that actually passed away, wow, until minutes before you know,
Speaker 1: just yeah, you know, and at the thing, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, people pass out, you know people, you know,
Speaker 1: things happen at concerts, but something like that. It's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: people said they are collectively they collectively heard folk scream
Speaker 1: and help every time you stop the song to get
Speaker 1: your attention. Did you did you hear any of those screams? Nah? Man?
Speaker 1: And you know it's so crazy because I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not artist too. Like, you know, anytime you can or
Speaker 1: something like that, you want to stop the show. You
Speaker 1: want to make sure, you know, fans get the proper
Speaker 1: attention they need, you know, And anytime I could see
Speaker 1: anything like that, I did, you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: stopped like a couple of times to just make sure
Speaker 1: everybody was okay, and I just really just go off
Speaker 1: the you know, the fans energy as a collective, you know,
Speaker 1: call a response. And I just didn't. I just didn't
Speaker 1: hear that. You know, I got music a couple in years,
Speaker 1: but I just didn't. I just didn't hear that. You know,
Speaker 1: break that down a little more like Nope, nobody knows
Speaker 1: what it's like being on stage except for other artists
Speaker 1: will speak to us from that perspective of what you
Speaker 1: can see in here. It was like fifty thousand people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you got like a video, you know, feel
Speaker 1: like fifty thousand people. But it's like a see you
Speaker 1: got lights, you got sound, you got pyrot, you know,
Speaker 1: you got your interears, got your sound, got your mic,
Speaker 1: you know, got the music, you got band is all
Speaker 1: type of you know, stuff going on. So it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell excitement from from from dangerous or
Speaker 1: to speak. Of course, everything kind of just sounds the same.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you just hear music,
Speaker 1: you know, and when you do, you just hear amongst
Speaker 1: the things you know. But you just when you're in
Speaker 1: the show, you just into the show, and anytime you
Speaker 1: can feel anything closely, you know, you try to like
Speaker 1: definitely get to that. So so as an artist, how
Speaker 1: much can you actually, I guess helping that position. You
Speaker 1: can only help what you can see, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And then what you know, whatever you told,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whenever it somebody tell you to stop,
Speaker 1: you just stop. But just wasn't it was It wasn't
Speaker 1: that night, huh. You know, raging. Raging has been a
Speaker 1: part of the culture, you know, of your shows. You know,
Speaker 1: you didn't on this night, but in the past you've
Speaker 1: encouraged I guess the kind of energy that could have
Speaker 1: led to something like this happening. Do you think that
Speaker 1: contributed to the energy of this night? Yeah? Nah, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's something I've been working on, you know
Speaker 1: for a while, um of just creating these experiences and
Speaker 1: trying to show like the experiences happening in a safe environment.
Speaker 1: You know, us as artists, we trust you know, professionals
Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, things happen to people leave,
Speaker 1: you know, safely. You know what I'm saying. Um, and
Speaker 1: it's night just like a regular show. You know, it
Speaker 1: felt like to me um as far as like you know,
Speaker 1: the energy people, it didn't feel like it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, people didn't I don't people didn't show up
Speaker 1: there to just be harmful people just I think showed
Speaker 1: up to have a good time. And then you know,
Speaker 1: something unfortunate happened, and I think we really just got
Speaker 1: to figure out, you know what that was. You know,
Speaker 1: does raging make it harder to identify when something is
Speaker 1: going wrong in the crowd? Well, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: raging is just a you know, they have a textbook,
Speaker 1: you know definition. But you know, in concerts, we've grown
Speaker 1: it to be just experience of having fun. It's not
Speaker 1: about just oh, harm, It's not about that. It's about
Speaker 1: just letting go and having fun. You know, help others,
Speaker 1: no love each other. It's not about just you know, harm,
Speaker 1: That's not what it's all about. The show isn't just
Speaker 1: rambunctious for an hour. You know, that's not what it
Speaker 1: is that Trust me, I grew up on crunk, So
Speaker 1: you know, I understand. You know, you just don't you
Speaker 1: don't want it to get two out of hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know the code. You know, energy is high,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, and that's why you want
Speaker 1: to just make sure that, you know, people are surrounded,
Speaker 1: to make sure that people are just having the best experience.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't say
Speaker 1: the energy is high, but you know you want to
Speaker 1: make sure that people are there for people to have
Speaker 1: like the best experience in league. Yeah, you want people
Speaker 1: to have a good time. You want people to get
Speaker 1: yeah at all. Yeah. Yeah, and you know, God a
Speaker 1: bid passed away, and you know it's typical for you
Speaker 1: to stop a show to make sure fans in the
Speaker 1: crowd get to help, you know, they need it. Even
Speaker 1: footage that night of you doing that during the set
Speaker 1: where you unable to sense like a difference in urgency
Speaker 1: this time I run, I mean yeah, because you know
Speaker 1: you stop the show. But you know, you know, if
Speaker 1: someone's gonna happen, if it's something detrimental, somebody's gonna let
Speaker 1: you know, you know, or you know, the show just stop.
Speaker 1: And you know that just wasn't the case. You know,
Speaker 1: I just kind of stopped the show. You know, you
Speaker 1: just asked, you have a call in response with the fans.
Speaker 1: Um you try to, you know, generally get a response,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you don't get like a hard stop,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you can't. You just don't you
Speaker 1: just go off of what's going on, you know, which
Speaker 1: makes it so like so crazy because like, you know,
Speaker 1: if I feel like, if you know, anyone wouldn't know,
Speaker 1: and it would have just been like it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gotten far. You know, what headspace were you win when
Speaker 1: you posted that that initial that initial response video. I
Speaker 1: mean it was I think it had to been the
Speaker 1: night of you know, um, so I was just in
Speaker 1: a headspace of just trying to get a communication out
Speaker 1: to my fans, you know, and I had literally no information,
Speaker 1: you know, so I was just trying to figure it
Speaker 1: out and just communicate to them. You know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was just reacting just literally just to get something to
Speaker 1: the fans. You know, it's people that showed up. Do
Speaker 1: you regret that initial video. Do you regret reacting in
Speaker 1: that way or not, like not having all the information
Speaker 1: before you said something. I mean yeah, because you know,
Speaker 1: you just don't know what's going on. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I don't, you know, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to get something out. You know, how my message
Speaker 1: came out, I can't you know, I can only go
Speaker 1: off for that, you know what I know. But my
Speaker 1: Truman titchs of it, you know, was really just trying
Speaker 1: to get a message across. And you know, I really
Speaker 1: wanted to just touching the fans, touching the families, you
Speaker 1: know that we here were grieving and we would get
Speaker 1: through this, you know, through this process. So what did
Speaker 1: you know in that first video? I mean, at that time,
Speaker 1: I think we just knew that you know, people passed.
Speaker 1: You know, um, we didn't know how you know that
Speaker 1: it was you know, the news. You know, I think
Speaker 1: police came out and said something. Um, you know, you're
Speaker 1: just going off of what you're seeing in the in
Speaker 1: the in the news. You know, you don't really know nothing.
Speaker 1: And then as it did go on, you started collect
Speaker 1: a little bit more information. They said there was there
Speaker 1: was like chaos and trampling being reported since the early afternoon,
Speaker 1: like like hours before the show even started. Were you
Speaker 1: informed of any of that ahead of time? Well, no,
Speaker 1: like um and um you know, the police he came,
Speaker 1: he came in um to my trailer and you know,
Speaker 1: he congratulated me on you know, the event and you
Speaker 1: know having something like this in Houston. He let me
Speaker 1: know that it was you know, mishap at the merch
Speaker 1: boof earlier. You know they shut it down, what they
Speaker 1: opened it back up. They she even got it under control.
Speaker 1: You know, he was gonna step out and just let
Speaker 1: us know if we need anything, you know, have a
Speaker 1: good show. That was it. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: the criticism, you know from the tragedy they say is
Speaker 1: and the poor planning and understaffing of the end of
Speaker 1: the event. As an artist, do you have any involvement
Speaker 1: in any of that? Well, I mean we just as
Speaker 1: an artist, you just do the creative and for this
Speaker 1: being my festival, you know I got you know, bring
Speaker 1: artists you know creatively produce it and you know we're
Speaker 1: just trusting you know, the professionals to kind of just
Speaker 1: make sure that you know people, you know, taking care
Speaker 1: of and you know, leaving safely. You know, I just
Speaker 1: can control what I can on the stage, and then
Speaker 1: you know you have the professionals control what they can
Speaker 1: in the crowd. You know, it's just hard because as
Speaker 1: an artist, you know, you want to have like the
Speaker 1: best shows and you want to have the best experiences,
Speaker 1: and you you know, you link with professionals to handle
Speaker 1: that side of it, you know, and you know, you
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on. I think that's what
Speaker 1: we got to figure out, you know, and figure out
Speaker 1: what happened there, how that happened. You know, you spoke
Speaker 1: on the Houston Police chief. His name is that Troy Finney.
Speaker 1: He came to you and he said he voiced concerns
Speaker 1: over the crowd energy. So what did you and your
Speaker 1: team like do with that information? Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: what the media. Um, I think that's what the media said.
Speaker 1: But I think I think it read too more so
Speaker 1: that he wanted us to He knew that our crowd was,
Speaker 1: you know, the type of crowd it comes, it comes
Speaker 1: to a heavy crowd. So to communicate with him if
Speaker 1: we were doing anything outside of the week's itinerary. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: that week we were doing like a lot of charity
Speaker 1: stuff prior to the festival, so you know the security
Speaker 1: at most of the events. But you know, he was
Speaker 1: just letting this you know, I guess that statement. He
Speaker 1: was just saying, if we do anything outside of what
Speaker 1: we had on our itinerary, let him know. But you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't even get to that point. It was crazy,
Speaker 1: just you know, being a kicking it with you for
Speaker 1: a little bit. Like I can see that, you know,
Speaker 1: this is Wayne real heavy on it. Yeah. So so
Speaker 1: how much do you do you feel a sense of
Speaker 1: responsibility for what happened at night? Well, you know, fans
Speaker 1: come to have a come to the show and have
Speaker 1: a good experience, you know, Um, and I have a
Speaker 1: responsibility to to figure out what happened here. I have
Speaker 1: a responsibility and figure out the solution, you know, and
Speaker 1: I gotta and hopefully this takes the first step into
Speaker 1: you know, us as artists, you know, having that more
Speaker 1: insight of what's going on, you know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: and you know, the professionals to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: surround and figure out more of an intel, whether it's tech,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, more of a response whether it's
Speaker 1: whatever the problem is, you know, um to figure out
Speaker 1: that and and and a few before the concert safety
Speaker 1: make sure that's never happened again, you know. But let's
Speaker 1: talk about those professionals, like how much how much responsibility
Speaker 1: do you think, like Live Nation and score more the
Speaker 1: promoters having all of this, I mean, you know, they
Speaker 1: do their job of you know, setting these things up.
Speaker 1: So I mean I think you know, they they when
Speaker 1: we dial into what you know, specifically happen here, I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, even they can kind of help,
Speaker 1: you know, figure out what happened in the sense um
Speaker 1: you know. But at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: think collectively everyone needs to just figure out the bottom
Speaker 1: line solution. But you know, especially in concert safety, you know,
Speaker 1: definitely got to have you know, make sure that you know,
Speaker 1: these things are you know, done right. You think he's
Speaker 1: festivals are too big, man, fifty dollars people with a
Speaker 1: lot of people for anybody to get their festivals that
Speaker 1: are bigger, you know, way bigger. And you know, I
Speaker 1: just think it's not about the maximum of it. I
Speaker 1: think it's about the attention to us going on and
Speaker 1: how it's going on, and as long as that's handle,
Speaker 1: I feel like things can be you know, can go okay,
Speaker 1: We'll be okay, you know. But if you look at
Speaker 1: it through the history of festivals, you know, this isn't
Speaker 1: the first time having It's been a long history of this,
Speaker 1: you know. So I feel like if you look at
Speaker 1: the overall you know, view of that, and you kind
Speaker 1: of like dolling, Okay, what can we do better to
Speaker 1: fix this overall for general concert safety, I think we
Speaker 1: figure out the problem, you know, and make it better
Speaker 1: for people to have better live experiences. Live Nation reportedly
Speaker 1: agreed to end the concert early after the Houston PD
Speaker 1: and the Fire Department declared that a match casity event,
Speaker 1: but the concert continued for another forty minutes. With that,
Speaker 1: any ever, any communication to you on stage that you
Speaker 1: should in this, well, yeah, I mean it just told
Speaker 1: me right after you know, the guests can get off stage,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna end the show, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's what we did. No other than that, there was
Speaker 1: no other communication, you know, so after even after the
Speaker 1: guests what you mean, Yeah, after the guests comes out, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna end the show. But It wasn't
Speaker 1: a communication on why, you know, it was just you know,
Speaker 1: that's what came through my ears. So they didn't say
Speaker 1: stopping now. No. Wow, you feel like people are forcing
Speaker 1: more responsibility on you because you are the front man
Speaker 1: because it was astral World. Well yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna you know, I'm the face of the festival.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm an artist, you know. Um, so yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the media is you know, they yeah, they
Speaker 1: want to you know, put it on me in But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's more so about that. I think it's more
Speaker 1: so about um stepping up to figure out what the
Speaker 1: problem is. And I could take that. I could take
Speaker 1: you know, stepping up to figure out what the problem is.
Speaker 1: I could take stepping into figuring out the solution that
Speaker 1: had never happened to because that's what I generally want
Speaker 1: to do in general, even just for my community. You know.
Speaker 1: The whole idea for why I brought this festival to
Speaker 1: the city was to you know, show that he'ston is
Speaker 1: something different, you know, and show that there's all different
Speaker 1: types of lives, is all different type of energy and
Speaker 1: just bring that morale to the city, um and just
Speaker 1: bring that energy to the city. So I definitely want to,
Speaker 1: you know, step in to figure out, you know, how
Speaker 1: can we fix this in the future, what can we
Speaker 1: do to you know, change these things? You know. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like you did everything you possibly could to
Speaker 1: help in that situation? Yes, yes, anything I physically can't sure. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, and and it and it and it just
Speaker 1: you know, if knowing you know what's going on, you know,
Speaker 1: you would just wish, you know, you know, if you
Speaker 1: you know, could something better, you know. But standing there
Speaker 1: thousand percent, you know, we know that the families of
Speaker 1: the people who passed are definitely watching this right now,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's nothing you could say to heal
Speaker 1: the trauma these families who lost loved ones are you know,
Speaker 1: are going through. But being that you know they're watching,
Speaker 1: what would you what would you say to them? Directly?
Speaker 1: I'll say to them that I'm I'm always here and
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm you know, I'm I'm in this
Speaker 1: with you guys, and I love you, you know, and
Speaker 1: I always you know, be there to help you guys
Speaker 1: heal to this. And I understand that they're going through
Speaker 1: you know they're grieving right now and finally understanding right now,
Speaker 1: and you know it's not just like a right now thing.
Speaker 1: It's for everything. And these people that came to the show,
Speaker 1: they are my family. And I've always had that connection
Speaker 1: to the people. I feel like they listen to the
Speaker 1: music or came to my shows. And that's why I really,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard on me even just you know,
Speaker 1: to even like you know, and even because you know
Speaker 1: they ended up, they they they lost they lost their
Speaker 1: loved ones, you know, so it you know, it's it's tough, um.
Speaker 1: And you know, I just want to always just be
Speaker 1: there for them and just always just be able to
Speaker 1: just know that I'm gonna fix this for the future people,
Speaker 1: you know, and and fix this solution, um, and fix
Speaker 1: this problem, I mean, you know, um, and find a
Speaker 1: solution to make sure that this doesn't happen in the future. UM.
Speaker 1: And definitely be a number one voice for this, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, I feel like that's like one of
Speaker 1: the what we what we gotta figure out because other
Speaker 1: than that, it's like, you know, the show goes on tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you know, something goes How does how does this get fixed?
Speaker 1: Just could happen again, It's happened before. Yeah, Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: in your your father. You know, God forbid when your
Speaker 1: kids are age, if they're in a situation like this,
Speaker 1: you know what you do put yourself in those parents
Speaker 1: shoes right now? What would what would you want to
Speaker 1: see come of this situation? If you want to see
Speaker 1: people put their heads together. I want to see people
Speaker 1: really figure this out, not take this lightly, you know, um,
Speaker 1: and really act on it um. And that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's one of the main things that's important. I feel
Speaker 1: like they got to just act on it. It can't
Speaker 1: just be like something that happens and and just roll over.
Speaker 1: We got to be something that's taken serious and address
Speaker 1: seriously and things formed around it. Time and a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of time and a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: thinking power is spent on this, you know and really
Speaker 1: fixing you know whatever system. But this needs to be fixed,
Speaker 1: you know, from the lawsuits to the media coverage. Do
Speaker 1: do you feel like you're personally under attack? I mean
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean yeah, I mean you see a
Speaker 1: name in it and it and shit, and it's like
Speaker 1: but you know, at the end of the day you
Speaker 1: step in these you know, you step you want to
Speaker 1: do a festival, and you know when we want to
Speaker 1: do things and you want to build up. You know,
Speaker 1: it comes with certain things, right, So I think it's
Speaker 1: all about how you respond to it. And I think
Speaker 1: it's all about how you react, right, So I could
Speaker 1: feel that way, but I think more so about it's
Speaker 1: more about how I feel about the response that I
Speaker 1: that I that I'm that I care about more so,
Speaker 1: which is you know, actually, you know, trying to step
Speaker 1: in and you know, really step up to really fixing
Speaker 1: what's happening and and really step up for the safety
Speaker 1: or concert cours people in just live spaces period. I wonder,
Speaker 1: I wonder, is there a way to even prepare for this,
Speaker 1: because nobody, like you said, when you're doing the planning
Speaker 1: for a show like this, nobody is planning for this
Speaker 1: to happen. So how do you how do you even
Speaker 1: prepare for something like this? That I don't know? And
Speaker 1: I feel like when we get I feel like, when
Speaker 1: it comes out a little bit more how this could
Speaker 1: have happened, I feel like that's how we can kind
Speaker 1: of attack that. But even I was thinking of ways
Speaker 1: like tech solutions. You know, people come into these festivals
Speaker 1: with these bands that only scan you in right, you
Speaker 1: have you know, you have all type of tech now
Speaker 1: that contract your heart, contract your you know, oxygen levels,
Speaker 1: contracting sick. You can put things now if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be you know, get lost. It's all type of ways now.
Speaker 1: I feel like that can be the band that only
Speaker 1: gets you access to entry, or to the food line
Speaker 1: or two food trucks can now be solvable to helping
Speaker 1: save lives, you know, can now be more of a
Speaker 1: response to people that are now on site and on ground.
Speaker 1: I feel like that could be a way, or you know,
Speaker 1: even just figuring out what the exact solution, what the
Speaker 1: exact problem of it was, and dialing more into that,
Speaker 1: I think you can kind of I feel like there
Speaker 1: is a way. I just think it needs to be
Speaker 1: time spent on figuring that, figuring that out. Have you
Speaker 1: been able to have any personal conversations with any of
Speaker 1: the families who lost levels? I was able to um,
Speaker 1: but you know, I just want to just respect that,
Speaker 1: you know, the privacy of the conversation, and I'm thankful
Speaker 1: for them for even allowing me to have the conversation.
Speaker 1: How did you feel when some of the families rejected
Speaker 1: your offer to pay for the funerals. All things are understandable,
Speaker 1: and you know, at the time, they're grieving and they're
Speaker 1: trying to find understanding, and you know they want answers,
Speaker 1: and it's not about it's not about that, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be here, you know, to want to
Speaker 1: help them, you know what I'm saying, And and it's
Speaker 1: it's not gonna you know, I gotta continue to show
Speaker 1: up for that, you know. Um, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that they knew that I was there for them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they continue to be there
Speaker 1: for them. Um. I think that's just more so what
Speaker 1: it's about for that. Um yeah, some people say, um,
Speaker 1: your your your music played a role in this, Like
Speaker 1: I've seen them, you know, cite lyrics you know that
Speaker 1: encouraged just kind of behavior. I've seen them say your
Speaker 1: music is demonic and this was a satanic ritual. You
Speaker 1: think your music is to blame. I mean no, I'm
Speaker 1: I mean one of them a man of God. So
Speaker 1: that's the first thing first, and um, you know, so
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, that's that. And you know your music
Speaker 1: is just like self expression, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And at these shows, I feel like people kind of
Speaker 1: like look at things. And if you've been to a
Speaker 1: Travis show, it's it's been different layers of shows. You know.
Speaker 1: I think people are just you know, misconceptions and taking
Speaker 1: me the seeing and you know all type of things.
Speaker 1: You know, um, And I've I've took pride in trying
Speaker 1: to you know, grow from where I was when I
Speaker 1: first recorded music to now where I'm going in music.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think people gotta and and that's
Speaker 1: one thing with me. It's just people gotta kind of um,
Speaker 1: you know, experience it sometimes. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: it was. You know, people were kind of like even
Speaker 1: before people were hearing about it, to come and experience
Speaker 1: it and taking away their own thinking. It's always going
Speaker 1: to be an outside opinion. But you know, for the
Speaker 1: ones that you know really believe in me and you
Speaker 1: know understand what you know, what I'm about and what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. No, that's not that's not what I'm you
Speaker 1: know preaching. I always preach like love, Always preach your understanding,
Speaker 1: always preach you know, take care of your love ones,
Speaker 1: love each other, you know, what I'm saying, get out
Speaker 1: your ideas, never let never let yourselves be stopped, you know,
Speaker 1: love one another and step into that, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that's a part of it. But the
Speaker 1: music does encourage people to be violent at these shows.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's what the rage is about.
Speaker 1: I mean, most of the music is it's me sometimes
Speaker 1: talking about what I see at the shows. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. If I'm talking about the shows, you know,
Speaker 1: and so it's just that's just you know, the energy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But the energy isn't to
Speaker 1: come and start, you know, being ultra violent and just
Speaker 1: being violent and hurt each other. That's not It's not
Speaker 1: what it's about too. It's more so supposed to be entertainment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's everything is you know, and it's about what you
Speaker 1: experience at you know, at the shows and what you see.
Speaker 1: You know, what has changed the content of your muse
Speaker 1: moving forward? Do you think you know what happened? You
Speaker 1: know what happened to here? It wasn't off Travis Scott music.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. That wasn't Oh now you need to like
Speaker 1: switch up. No, I mean I've made all different types
Speaker 1: of music music in the first place. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: never was just like one lane or one genre of
Speaker 1: anything in the first place. So I just think it's
Speaker 1: all about experiences. And I feel like, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it could be music to come out of it. Um lyricism,
Speaker 1: just emotion. You know, music is emotion, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and music is healing and um. And you know you
Speaker 1: can just find healing and find emotion and you know
Speaker 1: in that, you know, um, and just more progressive. You know,
Speaker 1: everything I'm trying to do is just more progressive. You
Speaker 1: said you're a man of God. And when I even
Speaker 1: said that, you know, they say your music is satanic.
Speaker 1: I saw the face that you made. What do you
Speaker 1: what do you think that even comes from Travis Scott
Speaker 1: is satanic? Travis scottis. I just think it's just things
Speaker 1: people collect. You know, people look at the Internet and
Speaker 1: they just collect and they look at things, and they
Speaker 1: look at visuals, and you know, you have all these
Speaker 1: theorists and people just thinking they're looking at visuals don't understand,
Speaker 1: you know, just the idea of like what art maybe,
Speaker 1: or what what you're trying to do. You know, they're
Speaker 1: just making up your own message, especially when you're not
Speaker 1: out there like yelling the message all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just yeah. And when they say this is a
Speaker 1: community event after the world, Yeah, so they say a
Speaker 1: community eventage the Satanic ritual? How does that? Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's it's crazy because you know, it's
Speaker 1: like I do this for people to have a good time.
Speaker 1: You know. We have rides, we have games, you know,
Speaker 1: it's things for people to get off, creative experiences. It's
Speaker 1: not you know, the show is at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. You know, it's like you know, and that
Speaker 1: show is just something based on on what's you know,
Speaker 1: just these things. You know, it's not like like why
Speaker 1: wo we wake up one day and just trying to
Speaker 1: It's just that's evil. It's not what we are part of.
Speaker 1: Not trying to be a part of that. We're trying
Speaker 1: to be a part of joy, trying to be a
Speaker 1: part of light, trying to be a part of full
Speaker 1: blown happen It's love, you know, understanding people taking care
Speaker 1: of each other, you know, community, people to leave from
Speaker 1: these experiences and want to go out and do good.
Speaker 1: It's literally what we want, you know, we want to
Speaker 1: show to these things. You know, we put everything into it.
Speaker 1: You know, this is you know, this festival. You know,
Speaker 1: this is our third year, you know, so we try
Speaker 1: to put you know, we every year, we put everything
Speaker 1: into the festival so people can enjoy it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not about even just come perform that not that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's things for them to do all day
Speaker 1: and different artists for them the experience too. Have the
Speaker 1: trauma of just tragedy impacted your desire to perform in
Speaker 1: the future. I've always seen performances of art of healing
Speaker 1: for me. That's why I've always been so into it.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if you like, you know,
Speaker 1: looked at like some of the growth from where I'm
Speaker 1: trying to take performance, I've I've always tried to. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's an art of healing, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a moment where people have a mutual understanding,
Speaker 1: you know, And I feel like the first things first
Speaker 1: before anything is that we address you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of safety concerns. I think the first things first is
Speaker 1: that because not even just for me, you don't want
Speaker 1: other you know, artists to have to go and take
Speaker 1: a part of that trauma, to take a part of
Speaker 1: that experience. Take a part of that, you know, that fear.
Speaker 1: You don't want console girls to still be a part
Speaker 1: of that fear. They want you want you want them
Speaker 1: to feel safe, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: think that's just the first things first. And I think
Speaker 1: once we take major steps into moving in that direction,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, you know, it could be
Speaker 1: cool to for for people to practice that healing again,
Speaker 1: you know, and understand that. I don't think people should
Speaker 1: run away from it and shy away from it. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a it's a form of healing.
Speaker 1: You know. You know, no matter what you do at
Speaker 1: any of your shows in the future, regardless of how
Speaker 1: much security, how much safety you put in place, you
Speaker 1: cannot control human behavior. Yeah. Yeah, you can't control forty
Speaker 1: people doing whatever it is they do. Is that stay?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, But you know you also put trust
Speaker 1: in the fans too to you know, just have a
Speaker 1: good time. You know, you just reinstill that and you know,
Speaker 1: you continue to practice. You know, when you're on stage,
Speaker 1: should just remind them, you know, um and even when
Speaker 1: they're there, to just constantly have messages to remind them,
Speaker 1: like Yo, look, you here to have a good time,
Speaker 1: We're not here. If you see somebody you know, help
Speaker 1: another you know, Um, I think it's just continue to
Speaker 1: reinstill that message. I think, help that mindset if Yeah.
Speaker 1: So after a while, was one of you know, several
Speaker 1: ways you gave back to Houston. Do you think you
Speaker 1: you know, lost that privilege to do that. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I haven't really like thought about that because I've just
Speaker 1: been thinking about just community healing and you know, the
Speaker 1: families healing and you know, all those things kind of
Speaker 1: building back up. Um, that that could take forever. Though.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you ever truly hell
Speaker 1: yeah from these type of situations. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, through these things, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: music is part of healing. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, Um, I don't I just don't you know,
Speaker 1: a Travis Scott show or you know, an asture or show,
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't the bottom line factor of what happened,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think we just got to figure
Speaker 1: out what that was what happened. But you know, having
Speaker 1: a Travis Scott show and we've done shows you know,
Speaker 1: all over that wasn't the you know what happened here.
Speaker 1: You know something that happened here, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: why I want to fix it, because it can happen anywhere,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think once we
Speaker 1: get further along in that, I think, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it would be more a little bit more receptive. I feel,
Speaker 1: just just you as an individual when you perform again,
Speaker 1: what precautions will you take moving forward? Just you just
Speaker 1: based on what you can personally control, precautions would you
Speaker 1: take moving forward? I'll do the same thing i've you know,
Speaker 1: been doing, just double you know, making sure everybody is
Speaker 1: on post and you know, I'll do the you know,
Speaker 1: double down and just making sure that everyone is locked in,
Speaker 1: everyone is aware, everyone is on response, everybody is on
Speaker 1: you know, on it, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: look out. Try to you know, if you felt like
Speaker 1: it wasn't there, more pushed for it to be more.
Speaker 1: Push the call and response more with the fans, like
Speaker 1: what you mean, like y'all okay or you know, or
Speaker 1: like you know, try to have some sort of call
Speaker 1: and response with the fans while still being smooth in
Speaker 1: the performance. At the end of the day, it's still
Speaker 1: performance are right, you know what I'm saying. Um, And
Speaker 1: that's why the whole general, whole idea about this is
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that is all these factors
Speaker 1: are done before we even go in cit these things,
Speaker 1: you know, um, because you want to just when you
Speaker 1: go in, you want to have the mindset that, okay,
Speaker 1: people are gonna be okay, we can have a good show.
Speaker 1: If anything's going down, people are gonna be right there
Speaker 1: to be the first one to get to him, you know,
Speaker 1: and if it's gonna be in the communication, it's you know, communication.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think, yeah, when you did stop
Speaker 1: the show, how did you see that one person? I
Speaker 1: mean he was right there. You know, you had like
Speaker 1: you had people like just spread it out, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking and I'm like, oh, so I
Speaker 1: just called down and you know the medics just came in, responded,
Speaker 1: got him out. You know that's the only one you
Speaker 1: saw that, Yeah, it's only one I saw. And then
Speaker 1: you know when I seen the lights in the back,
Speaker 1: you know, I just double check make sure everyone's okay.
Speaker 1: You know, I got a response to everyone's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How normal is that to see ambalances and everything else
Speaker 1: at these facts. Well it was it was lights, so
Speaker 1: you know, an ambulance don't really have like red and
Speaker 1: blue lights, you know, as you thought of I don't,
Speaker 1: you don't know, you just you're just looking at his lights.
Speaker 1: That's why I acts. I'm just like yo, it's an ambulance.
Speaker 1: It's like what's going on. You don't know if it's
Speaker 1: like somebody got to light something doing, you know, doing
Speaker 1: some turn, you don't know, you know, but you know
Speaker 1: they didn't get a response, so you know, you know
Speaker 1: you got a response to fans. You know that I
Speaker 1: actually want to put her hand up um, and then
Speaker 1: you know they're get a response for anything else. So
Speaker 1: just carried on. Did it make you feel judged when
Speaker 1: you see videos, you know, circulating the other artists stopping
Speaker 1: their shows like to check on fans since since after World,
Speaker 1: because it's almost like the insinuation from other artists that like,
Speaker 1: you didn't do enough, So we don't want to be
Speaker 1: like TRAVI. I'll take it as you know, they're just
Speaker 1: taking extra precautions, you know, because it might not have
Speaker 1: been something that you know, it's running though their mind
Speaker 1: at time before and they're just taking extra precautions to
Speaker 1: you know, make sure they don't run through the same
Speaker 1: same problems. And I commend them for that. You know,
Speaker 1: I've always done the same thing, you know, in my
Speaker 1: prior shows and at the show, so you know, I
Speaker 1: feel them, you know. I just think it's been a
Speaker 1: little bit more people are more capturing now, like because
Speaker 1: of what's going on. I think that's just how the
Speaker 1: media works. Do you feel like your team right now
Speaker 1: is allowing you to do everything that you possibly could
Speaker 1: do and as far as what this, as far as
Speaker 1: like anything regardless to the situation, you know, speaking out well,
Speaker 1: reaching out to families whatever, well, yeah, you know, you
Speaker 1: know it's a lot of league go into it. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm you know, I'm human,
Speaker 1: So I want to do so much to try to
Speaker 1: like help and heal. And you know, you want to
Speaker 1: give time for people to heal. You want to give time,
Speaker 1: but you know, I want to be able to like
Speaker 1: go and start taking these steps to you know, addressing
Speaker 1: these you know, these problems and you know, getting to
Speaker 1: the solutions, you know, addressing the solutions and addressing ways
Speaker 1: to fix these things from happening in the future, Like um,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the main thing. And I've always
Speaker 1: took a I've always took pride in trying to lead
Speaker 1: things and go and attack things and you know, be
Speaker 1: the first to jump out and go do it. You know.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm more than you know, happy enough to go.
Speaker 1: But but then there's the person Travis Scott. But then
Speaker 1: there's the business, the Travis Scott. I'm sure there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people around you trying to protect the business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so for you personally, like you know, how much do
Speaker 1: you want to protect the business as well? Well? I
Speaker 1: mean at the end of the day, like people have
Speaker 1: to understand, these businesses aren't built because you know you
Speaker 1: Charlotte Magne and home Travis. So it's like I've always
Speaker 1: cared about, you know, the fans. I don't give but
Speaker 1: you know, it's about them, you know. So it's like
Speaker 1: obviously it's like business and this, but I've always been
Speaker 1: the one that's like pushed back on vocally like yo,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta you know, this is about you know,
Speaker 1: the fans and you know the team is always felt
Speaker 1: the same way. Um and so and anytime I've ever
Speaker 1: done anything corporately, that's just I I've always been. It's
Speaker 1: just like yo, we want to go do things to
Speaker 1: make sure that the people that are experiencing this product
Speaker 1: is having the best experience. It's not about you know,
Speaker 1: what we could do, like the numbers, like you know,
Speaker 1: that's not what we chase here. We chase for people
Speaker 1: to have the best experience. You know. We want people
Speaker 1: to have enjoyed ourselves. We want people to walk away
Speaker 1: with like just ideas like well this is like you know,
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Speaker 1: no permanent friends. Our enemies in business, So you know
Speaker 1: if anybody decides to back away from Travis Scott on
Speaker 1: a corporate level, do you care? No? But um, I've
Speaker 1: never jumped into things with people that didn't know me.
Speaker 1: So everyone I surrounded myself with, you know, it's always
Speaker 1: been you know, a backbone and you know, supportive anything
Speaker 1: I you know, I want to do to help fix
Speaker 1: anything that could be a good cause, you know. So
Speaker 1: you know I'm thankful for that. You know, if the
Speaker 1: families are the victims, never forgive you, Will you ever
Speaker 1: be able to forgive yourself? Can you live with that? No?
Speaker 1: It's tough, you know, it's real tough, um, because I
Speaker 1: want them to really know that my intentions, you know,
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, it wasn't a harm their family at all.
Speaker 1: It's for them to come and have a good experience, um,
Speaker 1: you know. And I yeah, like you know, I've always
Speaker 1: feel like I have a connection with my fans, you know,
Speaker 1: through the music. I feel like when they come to
Speaker 1: see me, and it's not just like oh they're coming,
Speaker 1: they're coming to it's like a connection. Um. And you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes not knowing, you know, people are not understanding like
Speaker 1: artists and where we come from that it could be
Speaker 1: a disconnect and you know, I would love to you know,
Speaker 1: instead of understanding and you know, for them to truly
Speaker 1: know my hearts from you know, it didn't come for
Speaker 1: them for me to harm, and it wasn't about a
Speaker 1: show to keep you know at all. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a you know, it's about for them to have you know,
Speaker 1: one of the you know, a very good time and
Speaker 1: it's just tragic that it didn't turn out that way.
Speaker 1: You know. Do you feel like you're being villainised? I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like it comes with being in the seat,
Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like they pointing the finger
Speaker 1: at me because it's my festival or they want to
Speaker 1: you know, it's I am who I am, you know,
Speaker 1: and it maybe not a lot of like understanding about
Speaker 1: like what's going on. But you know, like I said before,
Speaker 1: I feel like I can kind of like take that
Speaker 1: um in a sense um because my whole career, I
Speaker 1: feel like people have been trying to do that and
Speaker 1: I feel like I've shown through actions that that's not
Speaker 1: my character, that's not you know, that's not who I am.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm shining through positive you know, um. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, with understanding and with everything. I
Speaker 1: feel like people understand that what my heart wasn't there
Speaker 1: to be the villain, you know, I was sad to
Speaker 1: be like a hometown hero, you know. The day before
Speaker 1: Astro World, UM, this footage of you discussing the importance
Speaker 1: of giving back to your community and how much it
Speaker 1: means to you to be able to do that. Do
Speaker 1: you think people have forgotten you know, your heart and
Speaker 1: all this and what after World was truly about. You know,
Speaker 1: I think people are you know, grieving, and you can
Speaker 1: get I can get you know, misplaced with you know,
Speaker 1: who cares about that what's going on right now. But
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, UM, I just want to
Speaker 1: continue to you know, stay on those stepping blocks and
Speaker 1: continue to doing the charity I've been doing it, and
Speaker 1: continue to doing the community to work I've been doing Houston.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I was doing those things before and
Speaker 1: not looking for people to pat me on the back
Speaker 1: for him you know, I was just doing them just
Speaker 1: simply just to make a change. And so you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if people don't, you know, pay attention to
Speaker 1: some of those things throughout whenever you are doing them.
Speaker 1: But that's not what you're doing for really, so I
Speaker 1: feel like at the end of the day, you continue
Speaker 1: to do those things regardless, you know, you think you'll
Speaker 1: ever be able to recover from this emotionally. You know,
Speaker 1: my grandmother and my dad, my mom, they've always told
Speaker 1: me to, you know, put your faith in God and
Speaker 1: how behind this wing. Um. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I think you gotta I've always told myself,
Speaker 1: you know, things aren't gonna get it's hard. You know,
Speaker 1: things can be feeling amazing sometimes and things can get
Speaker 1: real hard, you know. And I think how you respond
Speaker 1: to things and where you channel your emotions is very important,
Speaker 1: you know, especially at a time like this. And um
Speaker 1: and I gave you know it was it was hard
Speaker 1: for me to really because it was the first its
Speaker 1: first time anything like this I've even seen anything like
Speaker 1: this hurting me and be happening, you know, to this
Speaker 1: whole community. You know, Um, it just it just you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of just you want to be able to
Speaker 1: channel that emotion to just respond. And you gotta be
Speaker 1: strong man. Um. Stepping in and doing the things for
Speaker 1: the community doesn't come with being you know, too weak.
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to you know, step through these
Speaker 1: things and show people that you really you really care.
Speaker 1: You know. This wasn't just to get to the point
Speaker 1: to do this, but it was really to create active change,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think you know these are you know,
Speaker 1: it's these moments right now where you gotta really show,
Speaker 1: you know, where your heart is in this thing, you know. UM.
Speaker 1: And I think you know that's what I've always you
Speaker 1: know one wanted to do and you know I want
Speaker 1: to just continue to do that. I'm glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: your family because that was one of my one of
Speaker 1: my last questions, like how important this family been in
Speaker 1: this situation? Uh? You know it's been important, you know. UM,
Speaker 1: you know, you know all my family was there too,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's been important. UM. But to be
Speaker 1: able to have them and bounce back you know ideas
Speaker 1: and you know them, grieve with you know, for those
Speaker 1: families as well. UM, pray for those families as well,
Speaker 1: continue to you know them also being a help in
Speaker 1: hand as well, you know, UM, which gives me more
Speaker 1: hands to help. UM. I feel like which is more important? UM?
Speaker 1: And you know, you know them always having my back
Speaker 1: to support the idea want to create this change. I
Speaker 1: think you know at least gives me more confidence that
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not in this alone, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to um, help fix this, you know, for this,
Speaker 1: for the families, for the community as a superstar. It's weird,
Speaker 1: right because the same outlets that report on this tragedy,
Speaker 1: which something like the w cover leaps did not you
Speaker 1: want to get back to your relationship and whether you
Speaker 1: and you know Kylie together or not, is that not
Speaker 1: strange to you? I mean, yeah, so I don't really
Speaker 1: like do only do magazines? I like, you know, but
Speaker 1: you know, magazine's gonna try to like figure out what
Speaker 1: the fuck they want to figure out, you know. I
Speaker 1: just I've never did anything for a relationship for it,
Speaker 1: you know, anybody to try to figure out and put
Speaker 1: a label on what they want to put it on.
Speaker 1: You know, we know what our relationship is, and you know,
Speaker 1: so I just stand strong on it. So I guess
Speaker 1: my final question, man, who do who? Who does? Who
Speaker 1: does Travis got? Ultimately, I guess think is responsible for
Speaker 1: this traged You know, it's crazy because something tragic happening
Speaker 1: here and what's what what I've just been trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, get to the bottom of it. Is just
Speaker 1: what happened here, how it happened here. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think the families are old, you know that. I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, the community is old that I
Speaker 1: feel like we're old that to just know what happened here. Um,
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 1: to just speak too soon. I just want to figure out,
Speaker 1: you know, what happened, you know. Um. But you know, we,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, as artists, we just leave
Speaker 1: this up you know, to you know, to professionals to
Speaker 1: make sure that we you know that fans are happening
Speaker 1: a good time every you know, people are protected and
Speaker 1: can you know, leave and have the best experience ever.
Speaker 1: You know, they're going to pick this interview apart. So
Speaker 1: is there anything you want to say, you know, to
Speaker 1: your fans, to the family of people who lost loved ones,
Speaker 1: you know, before we get out of here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just want to I want everyone to can just
Speaker 1: continue praying for the fans. Um. I want to continue.
Speaker 1: I want people to continue praying for the ones, the
Speaker 1: fans I was lost, you know, I want people to
Speaker 1: continue praying for the families. Um. I want people to
Speaker 1: continue just reaching out for healing. UM, I want people
Speaker 1: to continue to just be there for each other, UM,
Speaker 1: and remember that you know that love is just you
Speaker 1: know everything, and with that, you know, we can try
Speaker 1: to cure everything, you know, and take steps into you know, healing.
Speaker 1: And I think the more we try to, you know,
Speaker 1: continue to let people grieve and continue to be there
Speaker 1: for people and you know, check in more people and
Speaker 1: you know, checking on your loved ones and just you
Speaker 1: know that, you know, I think that's just like one
Speaker 1: of the most important things. You know, UM, stand strong
Speaker 1: to this while we you know, figure out what's going on,
Speaker 1: you know, and and bring understanding to these families and
Speaker 1: to the community. That's what we're gonna. Donna send healing
Speaker 1: energy to everybody involved, the families, you know, those who
Speaker 1: were lost yourself, because nobody wants tragedies like just that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not at all, So preventing the moving forward is the
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