1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm Colleen with join me the host of Eating Wall 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Broke podcasts while I eat a meal created by self 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: made entrepreneurs, influencers, and celebrities over a meal they once 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: ate when they were broke. Today I have the lovely 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: aj Crimson, the official Princess of Compson, Asia Kid and Asia. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: This is the professor. We're here on Eating Wall Broke, 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: and today I'm gonna break down my meal that got 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: me through a time when I was broken. Listen to 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Eating Wall Broke on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple podcasts 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. 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Uh? 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, um, as you I've been on about like 37 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: different type of like emotions, you know, emotional roller coaster. 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, um, it gets so hard because you know, 39 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm so I always felt like connected with my fans 40 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: and you know, I went through something you know, and 41 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: I feel like fans went through something and people's parents 42 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: went do something, and you know it really you know, 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: it hurts. It hurts the community, hurts a city. And 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: it's just been a lot of thoughts, you know, a 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: lot of feelings, a lot of grieving m and just 46 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, trying to get you wrapped my head around it. 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, I really just really wanted to be there, 48 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: um and just you know, wish you could just kind 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: of like hold everyone, you know, um, kind of just 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: healed them, talk to them. I have conversations, Um, you know, 51 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: it just it just you know, it really hurts. Man. 52 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: What's your what's your intention with this conversation? Like like 53 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: what do you hope to get out of this or 54 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: what do you hope to get out I don't personally 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: have an intention. I just feel like something happened and 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: I feel like it's just, um, I needed just a 57 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: way to kind of like communicate, you know, one. You know, 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the families are grieving, you know, as fans that experienced something, 59 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: as fans that came to a show, you know. And 60 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I just have like a I've always 61 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: been that person always see things through the people that 62 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: shared experiences with me, and you know, it's just things happening, 63 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of, you know, it's been 64 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: such a such a time and I've just been trying 65 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: to just really figure things out, you know, and I 66 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: know you, I'm sure you're experiencing remorse. But was there 67 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: any hesitation to have this conversation because of the litigation 68 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: you may be facing? Well, I mean yeah, of course 69 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: you got people it's just like, oh what like you know, 70 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: but um, it's not about that, you know, it's you know, 71 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: your artists, you whoever people think you are. At the 72 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: end of the day, you're a human being. You know, 73 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: you have emotions. Um, you want to communicate them emotions, 74 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, and trying to find the best way to 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: communicate you know, how you just feeling, you know, how 76 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: have you been coping with the aftermath of everything? Just 77 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: just just emotionally, just you as a huge I've been 78 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: just in a room for a while, you know, a 79 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: lot of thoughts and luckily, you know, um you have 80 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: people around that you kind of outside ideas. But it 81 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: just been you know, I been doing this for such 82 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: a long time, and you know, you nothing like this 83 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: ever happened, you know, so it just kind of like 84 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: you just kind of figuring out and at the end 85 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: of the day, like these fans of your family, so 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: you just feel like you lost lost something and you 87 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: just like you go. You do these shows honestly to 88 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, for people to have the best experience, you know, 89 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: and just to think that something like this happened. You 90 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out you know, you know, just 91 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: wrap everything around. And so even just for the first 92 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: couple a couple of weeks, you know, it was just 93 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: me sitting down, but I had to really channel these 94 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: emotions to just remember, like, you know, if no one's 95 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a voice for these people, I gotta like 96 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: kind of step up and kind of like be a 97 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: voice to just figure out that, you know, this isn't 98 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: happened in the future. The show is period, you know 99 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or figure out the bottom solution of 100 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: what's going on, and just trying to ensure its people, 101 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, safety and what they're doing. You know, you 102 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: said you was in the room, but then people saw 103 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: you had at the golf course. Yeah, but with Michael Jordan, 104 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg, what what was that? Um? It was just Thanksgiving? Um, 105 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: you know they were there. You know, it's just good 106 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: people to have around in the community, and you know 107 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: that was just more like a personal time, just trying 108 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: to get around. I think like some fan came and 109 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: asked for a photo. But yeah, let's talk about that night. Man. 110 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: When when did you When did you find out things 111 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: got as bad as they did? That's that's the question 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: everybody wants to know. Yeah, it wasn't really until like 113 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: minutes until like the press conference, until I figured out 114 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. You know, Um, even after the show, 115 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: you know, you're just kind of hearing hearing things, but 116 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: you don't know, I didn't know the exact details until 117 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, minutes before the press conference. And even at 118 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: that moment you kind of just like wait, you know what, 119 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: like you know, you just went through something and it's 120 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: just like wait what you know, So you didn't know 121 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: people that actually passed away, wow, until minutes before you know, 122 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: just yeah, you know, and at the thing, it's like, 123 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, people pass out, you know people, you know, 124 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: things happen at concerts, but something like that. It's just like, yeah, 125 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: people said they are collectively they collectively heard folk scream 126 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: and help every time you stop the song to get 127 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: your attention. Did you did you hear any of those screams? Nah? Man? 128 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: And you know it's so crazy because I'm not I'm 129 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: not artist too. Like, you know, anytime you can or 130 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: something like that, you want to stop the show. You 131 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: want to make sure, you know, fans get the proper 132 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: attention they need, you know, And anytime I could see 133 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: anything like that, I did, you know, you know, I 134 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: stopped like a couple of times to just make sure 135 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: everybody was okay, and I just really just go off 136 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the you know, the fans energy as a collective, you know, 137 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: call a response. And I just didn't. I just didn't 138 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: hear that. You know, I got music a couple in years, 139 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: but I just didn't. I just didn't hear that. You know, 140 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: break that down a little more like Nope, nobody knows 141 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 1: what it's like being on stage except for other artists 142 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: will speak to us from that perspective of what you 143 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: can see in here. It was like fifty thousand people. Yeah, 144 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you got like a video, you know, feel 145 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: like fifty thousand people. But it's like a see you 146 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: got lights, you got sound, you got pyrot, you know, 147 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: you got your interears, got your sound, got your mic, 148 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, got the music, you got band is all 149 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: type of you know, stuff going on. So it's hard. 150 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: It's hard to tell excitement from from from dangerous or 151 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: to speak. Of course, everything kind of just sounds the same. 152 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you just hear music, 153 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, and when you do, you just hear amongst 154 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: the things you know. But you just when you're in 155 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: the show, you just into the show, and anytime you 156 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: can feel anything closely, you know, you try to like 157 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: definitely get to that. So so as an artist, how 158 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: much can you actually, I guess helping that position. You 159 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: can only help what you can see, you know what 160 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean. And then what you know, whatever you told, 161 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whenever it somebody tell you to stop, 162 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: you just stop. But just wasn't it was It wasn't 163 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: that night, huh. You know, raging. Raging has been a 164 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: part of the culture, you know, of your shows. You know, 165 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: you didn't on this night, but in the past you've 166 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: encouraged I guess the kind of energy that could have 167 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: led to something like this happening. Do you think that 168 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: contributed to the energy of this night? Yeah? Nah, I think, 169 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's something I've been working on, you know 170 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: for a while, um of just creating these experiences and 171 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: trying to show like the experiences happening in a safe environment. 172 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: You know, us as artists, we trust you know, professionals 173 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, things happen to people leave, 174 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, safely. You know what I'm saying. Um, and 175 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: it's night just like a regular show. You know, it 176 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: felt like to me um as far as like you know, 177 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: the energy people, it didn't feel like it was like, 178 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, people didn't I don't people didn't show up 179 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: there to just be harmful people just I think showed 180 00:09:58,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: up to have a good time. And then you know, 181 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: something unfortunate happened, and I think we really just got 182 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: to figure out, you know what that was. You know, 183 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: does raging make it harder to identify when something is 184 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: going wrong in the crowd? Well, I think, you know, 185 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: raging is just a you know, they have a textbook, 186 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: you know definition. But you know, in concerts, we've grown 187 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: it to be just experience of having fun. It's not 188 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: about just oh, harm, It's not about that. It's about 189 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: just letting go and having fun. You know, help others, 190 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: no love each other. It's not about just you know, harm, 191 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: That's not what it's all about. The show isn't just 192 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: rambunctious for an hour. You know, that's not what it 193 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: is that Trust me, I grew up on crunk, So 194 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: you know, I understand. You know, you just don't you 195 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: don't want it to get two out of hand. Yeah, 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: but you know the code. You know, energy is high, 197 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, and that's why you want 198 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: to just make sure that, you know, people are surrounded, 199 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that people are just having the best experience. 200 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't say 201 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: the energy is high, but you know you want to 202 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: make sure that people are there for people to have 203 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: like the best experience in league. Yeah, you want people 204 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: to have a good time. You want people to get 205 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: yeah at all. Yeah. Yeah, and you know, God a 206 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: bid passed away, and you know it's typical for you 207 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: to stop a show to make sure fans in the 208 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: crowd get to help, you know, they need it. Even 209 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: footage that night of you doing that during the set 210 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: where you unable to sense like a difference in urgency 211 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: this time I run, I mean yeah, because you know 212 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: you stop the show. But you know, you know, if 213 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: someone's gonna happen, if it's something detrimental, somebody's gonna let 214 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, or you know, the show just stop. 215 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: And you know that just wasn't the case. You know, 216 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: I just kind of stopped the show. You know, you 217 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: just asked, you have a call in response with the fans. 218 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: Um you try to, you know, generally get a response, 219 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: but you know, if you don't get like a hard stop, 220 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's just you can't. You just don't you 221 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: just go off of what's going on, you know, which 222 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: makes it so like so crazy because like, you know, 223 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: if I feel like, if you know, anyone wouldn't know, 224 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: and it would have just been like it wouldn't have 225 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: gotten far. You know, what headspace were you win when 226 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: you posted that that initial that initial response video. I 227 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: mean it was I think it had to been the 228 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: night of you know, um, so I was just in 229 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: a headspace of just trying to get a communication out 230 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: to my fans, you know, and I had literally no information, 231 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, so I was just trying to figure it 232 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: out and just communicate to them. You know. Yeah, I 233 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: was just reacting just literally just to get something to 234 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: the fans. You know, it's people that showed up. Do 235 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: you regret that initial video. Do you regret reacting in 236 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: that way or not, like not having all the information 237 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: before you said something. I mean yeah, because you know, 238 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: you just don't know what's going on. But at the 239 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: end of the day, I don't, you know, I just 240 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: wanted to get something out. You know, how my message 241 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: came out, I can't you know, I can only go 242 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: off for that, you know what I know. But my 243 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: Truman titchs of it, you know, was really just trying 244 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: to get a message across. And you know, I really 245 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: wanted to just touching the fans, touching the families, you 246 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: know that we here were grieving and we would get 247 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: through this, you know, through this process. So what did 248 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: you know in that first video? I mean, at that time, 249 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: I think we just knew that you know, people passed. 250 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, um, we didn't know how you know that 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: it was you know, the news. You know, I think 252 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: police came out and said something. Um, you know, you're 253 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: just going off of what you're seeing in the in 254 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: the in the news. You know, you don't really know nothing. 255 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: And then as it did go on, you started collect 256 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more information. They said there was there 257 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: was like chaos and trampling being reported since the early afternoon, 258 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: like like hours before the show even started. Were you 259 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: informed of any of that ahead of time? Well, no, 260 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: like um and um you know, the police he came, 261 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: he came in um to my trailer and you know, 262 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: he congratulated me on you know, the event and you 263 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: know having something like this in Houston. He let me 264 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: know that it was you know, mishap at the merch 265 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: boof earlier. You know they shut it down, what they 266 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: opened it back up. They she even got it under control. 267 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: You know, he was gonna step out and just let 268 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: us know if we need anything, you know, have a 269 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: good show. That was it. You know a lot of 270 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: the criticism, you know from the tragedy they say is 271 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: and the poor planning and understaffing of the end of 272 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: the event. As an artist, do you have any involvement 273 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: in any of that? Well, I mean we just as 274 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: an artist, you just do the creative and for this 275 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: being my festival, you know I got you know, bring 276 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: artists you know creatively produce it and you know we're 277 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: just trusting you know, the professionals to kind of just 278 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: make sure that you know people, you know, taking care 279 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: of and you know, leaving safely. You know, I just 280 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: can control what I can on the stage, and then 281 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: you know you have the professionals control what they can 282 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: in the crowd. You know, it's just hard because as 283 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: an artist, you know, you want to have like the 284 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: best shows and you want to have the best experiences, 285 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: and you you know, you link with professionals to handle 286 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: that side of it, you know, and you know, you 287 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: want to know what's going on. I think that's what 288 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: we got to figure out, you know, and figure out 289 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: what happened there, how that happened. You know, you spoke 290 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: on the Houston Police chief. His name is that Troy Finney. 291 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: He came to you and he said he voiced concerns 292 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: over the crowd energy. So what did you and your 293 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: team like do with that information? Well, I think that's 294 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: what the media. Um, I think that's what the media said. 295 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: But I think I think it read too more so 296 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: that he wanted us to He knew that our crowd was, 297 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, the type of crowd it comes, it comes 298 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: to a heavy crowd. So to communicate with him if 299 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: we were doing anything outside of the week's itinerary. You know, Um, 300 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: that week we were doing like a lot of charity 301 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: stuff prior to the festival, so you know the security 302 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: at most of the events. But you know, he was 303 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: just letting this you know, I guess that statement. He 304 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: was just saying, if we do anything outside of what 305 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: we had on our itinerary, let him know. But you know, 306 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: we didn't even get to that point. It was crazy, 307 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: just you know, being a kicking it with you for 308 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. Like I can see that, you know, 309 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: this is Wayne real heavy on it. Yeah. So so 310 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: how much do you do you feel a sense of 311 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: responsibility for what happened at night? Well, you know, fans 312 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: come to have a come to the show and have 313 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: a good experience, you know, Um, and I have a 314 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: responsibility to to figure out what happened here. I have 315 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: a responsibility and figure out the solution, you know, and 316 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I gotta and hopefully this takes the first step into 317 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, us as artists, you know, having that more 318 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: insight of what's going on, you know what I'm saying. Um, 319 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: and you know, the professionals to kind of you know, 320 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: surround and figure out more of an intel, whether it's tech, 321 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, more of a response whether it's 322 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: whatever the problem is, you know, um to figure out 323 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: that and and and a few before the concert safety 324 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: make sure that's never happened again, you know. But let's 325 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: talk about those professionals, like how much how much responsibility 326 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: do you think, like Live Nation and score more the 327 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: promoters having all of this, I mean, you know, they 328 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: do their job of you know, setting these things up. 329 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: So I mean I think you know, they they when 330 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: we dial into what you know, specifically happen here, I 331 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, even they can kind of help, 332 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, figure out what happened in the sense um 333 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: you know. But at the end of the day, I 334 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: think collectively everyone needs to just figure out the bottom 335 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: line solution. But you know, especially in concert safety, you know, 336 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: definitely got to have you know, make sure that you know, 337 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: these things are you know, done right. You think he's 338 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: festivals are too big, man, fifty dollars people with a 339 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: lot of people for anybody to get their festivals that 340 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: are bigger, you know, way bigger. And you know, I 341 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: just think it's not about the maximum of it. I 342 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: think it's about the attention to us going on and 343 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: how it's going on, and as long as that's handle, 344 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: I feel like things can be you know, can go okay, 345 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: We'll be okay, you know. But if you look at 346 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: it through the history of festivals, you know, this isn't 347 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: the first time having It's been a long history of this, 348 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: you know. So I feel like if you look at 349 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: the overall you know, view of that, and you kind 350 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: of like dolling, Okay, what can we do better to 351 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: fix this overall for general concert safety, I think we 352 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: figure out the problem, you know, and make it better 353 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: for people to have better live experiences. Live Nation reportedly 354 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: agreed to end the concert early after the Houston PD 355 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: and the Fire Department declared that a match casity event, 356 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: but the concert continued for another forty minutes. With that, 357 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: any ever, any communication to you on stage that you 358 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: should in this, well, yeah, I mean it just told 359 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: me right after you know, the guests can get off stage, 360 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna end the show, you know, And 361 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: that's what we did. No other than that, there was 362 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: no other communication, you know, so after even after the 363 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: guests what you mean, Yeah, after the guests comes out, Okay, 364 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna end the show. But It wasn't 365 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: a communication on why, you know, it was just you know, 366 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: that's what came through my ears. So they didn't say 367 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: stopping now. No. Wow, you feel like people are forcing 368 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: more responsibility on you because you are the front man 369 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: because it was astral World. Well yeah, I mean, you 370 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna you know, I'm the face of the festival. 371 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm an artist, you know. Um, so yeah, 372 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: you know the media is you know, they yeah, they 373 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: want to you know, put it on me in But 374 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like, I don't 375 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: think it's more so about that. I think it's more 376 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: so about um stepping up to figure out what the 377 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: problem is. And I could take that. I could take 378 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, stepping up to figure out what the problem is. 379 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: I could take stepping into figuring out the solution that 380 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: had never happened to because that's what I generally want 381 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: to do in general, even just for my community. You know. 382 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: The whole idea for why I brought this festival to 383 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: the city was to you know, show that he'ston is 384 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: something different, you know, and show that there's all different 385 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: types of lives, is all different type of energy and 386 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: just bring that morale to the city, um and just 387 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: bring that energy to the city. So I definitely want to, 388 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, step in to figure out, you know, how 389 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: can we fix this in the future, what can we 390 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: do to you know, change these things? You know. Do 391 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: you feel like you did everything you possibly could to 392 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: help in that situation? Yes, yes, anything I physically can't sure. Yes, 393 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, and and it and it and it just 394 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, if knowing you know what's going on, you know, 395 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: you would just wish, you know, you know, if you 396 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, could something better, you know. But standing there 397 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: thousand percent, you know, we know that the families of 398 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: the people who passed are definitely watching this right now, 399 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: and you know, there's nothing you could say to heal 400 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: the trauma these families who lost loved ones are you know, 401 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: are going through. But being that you know they're watching, 402 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: what would you what would you say to them? Directly? 403 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: I'll say to them that I'm I'm always here and 404 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: that you know, I'm you know, I'm I'm in this 405 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: with you guys, and I love you, you know, and 406 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: I always you know, be there to help you guys 407 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: heal to this. And I understand that they're going through 408 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: you know they're grieving right now and finally understanding right now, 409 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: and you know it's not just like a right now thing. 410 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: It's for everything. And these people that came to the show, 411 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: they are my family. And I've always had that connection 412 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: to the people. I feel like they listen to the 413 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: music or came to my shows. And that's why I really, 414 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard on me even just you know, 415 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: to even like you know, and even because you know 416 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: they ended up, they they they lost they lost their 417 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: loved ones, you know, so it you know, it's it's tough, um. 418 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I just want to always just be 419 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: there for them and just always just be able to 420 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: just know that I'm gonna fix this for the future people, 421 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, and and fix this solution, um, and fix 422 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: this problem, I mean, you know, um, and find a 423 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: solution to make sure that this doesn't happen in the future. UM. 424 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: And definitely be a number one voice for this, you know, 425 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: because you know, I feel like that's like one of 426 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: the what we what we gotta figure out because other 427 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: than that, it's like, you know, the show goes on tomorrow, 428 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: you know, something goes How does how does this get fixed? 429 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: Just could happen again, It's happened before. Yeah, Yeah, I'm 430 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: Next and I'm Jade. A friend of mine convinced us 431 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: to do a pop culture based podcast, entertain the masses 432 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: and do our own thing, and that's how Jada Next 433 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: was born. 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You know, God forbid when your 472 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: kids are age, if they're in a situation like this, 473 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: you know what you do put yourself in those parents 474 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: shoes right now? What would what would you want to 475 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: see come of this situation? If you want to see 476 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: people put their heads together. I want to see people 477 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: really figure this out, not take this lightly, you know, um, 478 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: and really act on it um. And that's you know, 479 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: that's one of the main things that's important. I feel 480 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: like they got to just act on it. It can't 481 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: just be like something that happens and and just roll over. 482 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: We got to be something that's taken serious and address 483 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: seriously and things formed around it. Time and a lot 484 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: of a lot of time and a lot of you know, 485 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: thinking power is spent on this, you know and really 486 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: fixing you know whatever system. But this needs to be fixed, 487 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, from the lawsuits to the media coverage. Do 488 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're personally under attack? I mean 489 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean yeah, I mean you see a 490 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: name in it and it and shit, and it's like 491 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: but you know, at the end of the day you 492 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: step in these you know, you step you want to 493 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: do a festival, and you know when we want to 494 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: do things and you want to build up. You know, 495 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: it comes with certain things, right, So I think it's 496 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: all about how you respond to it. And I think 497 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: it's all about how you react, right, So I could 498 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: feel that way, but I think more so about it's 499 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: more about how I feel about the response that I 500 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: that I that I'm that I care about more so, 501 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: which is you know, actually, you know, trying to step 502 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: in and you know, really step up to really fixing 503 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: what's happening and and really step up for the safety 504 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: or concert cours people in just live spaces period. I wonder, 505 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: I wonder, is there a way to even prepare for this, 506 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: because nobody, like you said, when you're doing the planning 507 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: for a show like this, nobody is planning for this 508 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: to happen. So how do you how do you even 509 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: prepare for something like this? That I don't know? And 510 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: I feel like when we get I feel like, when 511 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: it comes out a little bit more how this could 512 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: have happened, I feel like that's how we can kind 513 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: of attack that. But even I was thinking of ways 514 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: like tech solutions. You know, people come into these festivals 515 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: with these bands that only scan you in right, you 516 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: have you know, you have all type of tech now 517 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: that contract your heart, contract your you know, oxygen levels, 518 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: contracting sick. You can put things now if you're gonna 519 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: be you know, get lost. It's all type of ways now. 520 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: I feel like that can be the band that only 521 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: gets you access to entry, or to the food line 522 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: or two food trucks can now be solvable to helping 523 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: save lives, you know, can now be more of a 524 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: response to people that are now on site and on ground. 525 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I feel like that could be a way, or you know, 526 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: even just figuring out what the exact solution, what the 527 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: exact problem of it was, and dialing more into that, 528 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: I think you can kind of I feel like there 529 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: is a way. I just think it needs to be 530 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: time spent on figuring that, figuring that out. Have you 531 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: been able to have any personal conversations with any of 532 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: the families who lost levels? I was able to um, 533 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: but you know, I just want to just respect that, 534 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, the privacy of the conversation, and I'm thankful 535 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: for them for even allowing me to have the conversation. 536 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: How did you feel when some of the families rejected 537 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: your offer to pay for the funerals. All things are understandable, 538 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: and you know, at the time, they're grieving and they're 539 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: trying to find understanding, and you know they want answers, 540 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: and it's not about it's not about that, you know. Um, 541 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be here, you know, to want to 542 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: help them, you know what I'm saying, And and it's 543 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: it's not gonna you know, I gotta continue to show 544 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: up for that, you know. Um, I just wanted to 545 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: make sure that they knew that I was there for them, 546 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they continue to be there 547 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: for them. Um. I think that's just more so what 548 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: it's about for that. Um yeah, some people say, um, 549 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: your your your music played a role in this, Like 550 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: I've seen them, you know, cite lyrics you know that 551 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: encouraged just kind of behavior. I've seen them say your 552 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: music is demonic and this was a satanic ritual. You 553 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: think your music is to blame. I mean no, I'm 554 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean one of them a man of God. So 555 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: that's the first thing first, and um, you know, so 556 00:30:52,680 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, that's that. And you know your music 557 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: is just like self expression, you know what I'm saying. 558 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: And at these shows, I feel like people kind of 559 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: like look at things. And if you've been to a 560 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: Travis show, it's it's been different layers of shows. You know. 561 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: I think people are just you know, misconceptions and taking 562 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: me the seeing and you know all type of things. 563 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, um, And I've I've took pride in trying 564 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: to you know, grow from where I was when I 565 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: first recorded music to now where I'm going in music. 566 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think people gotta and and that's 567 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: one thing with me. It's just people gotta kind of um, 568 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, experience it sometimes. And I think that's what 569 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: it was. You know, people were kind of like even 570 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: before people were hearing about it, to come and experience 571 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: it and taking away their own thinking. It's always going 572 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: to be an outside opinion. But you know, for the 573 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: ones that you know really believe in me and you 574 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: know understand what you know, what I'm about and what 575 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing. No, that's not that's not what I'm you 576 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: know preaching. I always preach like love, Always preach your understanding, 577 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: always preach you know, take care of your love ones, 578 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: love each other, you know, what I'm saying, get out 579 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: your ideas, never let never let yourselves be stopped, you know, 580 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: love one another and step into that, you know. I 581 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: mean I think that's a part of it. But the 582 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: music does encourage people to be violent at these shows. 583 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's what the rage is about. 584 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, most of the music is it's me sometimes 585 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: talking about what I see at the shows. You know 586 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. If I'm talking about the shows, you know, 587 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: and so it's just that's just you know, the energy, 588 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But the energy isn't to 589 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: come and start, you know, being ultra violent and just 590 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: being violent and hurt each other. That's not It's not 591 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: what it's about too. It's more so supposed to be entertainment. Yeah, 592 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: it's everything is you know, and it's about what you 593 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: experience at you know, at the shows and what you see. 594 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: You know, what has changed the content of your muse 595 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: moving forward? Do you think you know what happened? You 596 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: know what happened to here? It wasn't off Travis Scott music. 597 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't. That wasn't Oh now you need to like 598 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: switch up. No, I mean I've made all different types 599 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: of music music in the first place. You know, I'm 600 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: never was just like one lane or one genre of 601 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: anything in the first place. So I just think it's 602 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: all about experiences. And I feel like, you know, you know, 603 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: it could be music to come out of it. Um lyricism, 604 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: just emotion. You know, music is emotion, um, you know, 605 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: and music is healing and um. And you know you 606 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: can just find healing and find emotion and you know 607 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: in that, you know, um, and just more progressive. You know, 608 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: everything I'm trying to do is just more progressive. You 609 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: said you're a man of God. And when I even 610 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: said that, you know, they say your music is satanic. 611 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: I saw the face that you made. What do you 612 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: what do you think that even comes from Travis Scott 613 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: is satanic? Travis scottis. I just think it's just things 614 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: people collect. You know, people look at the Internet and 615 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: they just collect and they look at things, and they 616 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: look at visuals, and you know, you have all these 617 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: theorists and people just thinking they're looking at visuals don't understand, 618 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, just the idea of like what art maybe, 619 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: or what what you're trying to do. You know, they're 620 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: just making up your own message, especially when you're not 621 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: out there like yelling the message all the time. You know, 622 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: it's just yeah. And when they say this is a 623 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: community event after the world, Yeah, so they say a 624 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: community eventage the Satanic ritual? How does that? Yeah, It's 625 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: like it's it's it's it's crazy because you know, it's 626 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: like I do this for people to have a good time. 627 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: You know. We have rides, we have games, you know, 628 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: it's things for people to get off, creative experiences. It's 629 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: not you know, the show is at the end of 630 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: the day. You know, it's like you know, and that 631 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: show is just something based on on what's you know, 632 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: just these things. You know, it's not like like why 633 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: wo we wake up one day and just trying to 634 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: It's just that's evil. It's not what we are part of. 635 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: Not trying to be a part of that. We're trying 636 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: to be a part of joy, trying to be a 637 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: part of light, trying to be a part of full 638 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: blown happen It's love, you know, understanding people taking care 639 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: of each other, you know, community, people to leave from 640 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: these experiences and want to go out and do good. 641 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: It's literally what we want, you know, we want to 642 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: show to these things. You know, we put everything into it. 643 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: You know, this is you know, this festival. You know, 644 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: this is our third year, you know, so we try 645 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: to put you know, we every year, we put everything 646 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: into the festival so people can enjoy it. You know, 647 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: it's not about even just come perform that not that, 648 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's things for them to do all day 649 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: and different artists for them the experience too. Have the 650 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: trauma of just tragedy impacted your desire to perform in 651 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: the future. I've always seen performances of art of healing 652 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: for me. That's why I've always been so into it. 653 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if you like, you know, 654 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: looked at like some of the growth from where I'm 655 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: trying to take performance, I've I've always tried to. I 656 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: feel like it's an art of healing, and I feel 657 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: like it's a moment where people have a mutual understanding, 658 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, And I feel like the first things first 659 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: before anything is that we address you know, a lot 660 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: of safety concerns. I think the first things first is 661 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: that because not even just for me, you don't want 662 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: other you know, artists to have to go and take 663 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: a part of that trauma, to take a part of 664 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: that experience. Take a part of that, you know, that fear. 665 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: You don't want console girls to still be a part 666 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: of that fear. They want you want you want them 667 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: to feel safe, you know what I'm saying. So I 668 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: think that's just the first things first. And I think 669 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: once we take major steps into moving in that direction, 670 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, you know, it could be 671 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: cool to for for people to practice that healing again, 672 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: you know, and understand that. I don't think people should 673 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,959 Speaker 1: run away from it and shy away from it. I think, 674 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a it's a form of healing. 675 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: You know. You know, no matter what you do at 676 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: any of your shows in the future, regardless of how 677 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: much security, how much safety you put in place, you 678 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: cannot control human behavior. Yeah. Yeah, you can't control forty 679 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: people doing whatever it is they do. Is that stay? 680 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, But you know you also put trust 681 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: in the fans too to you know, just have a 682 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: good time. You know, you just reinstill that and you know, 683 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: you continue to practice. You know, when you're on stage, 684 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: should just remind them, you know, um and even when 685 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: they're there, to just constantly have messages to remind them, 686 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: like Yo, look, you here to have a good time, 687 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: We're not here. If you see somebody you know, help 688 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: another you know, Um, I think it's just continue to 689 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: reinstill that message. I think, help that mindset if Yeah. 690 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: So after a while, was one of you know, several 691 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: ways you gave back to Houston. Do you think you 692 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, lost that privilege to do that. To be honest, 693 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: I haven't really like thought about that because I've just 694 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: been thinking about just community healing and you know, the 695 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: families healing and you know, all those things kind of 696 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: building back up. Um, that that could take forever. Though. 697 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you ever truly hell 698 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: yeah from these type of situations. Yeah, and you know, 699 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: but you know, through these things, you know, like I said, 700 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: music is part of healing. And at the end of 701 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: the day, Um, I don't I just don't you know, 702 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: a Travis Scott show or you know, an asture or show, 703 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, wasn't the bottom line factor of what happened, 704 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: you know, And I think we just got to figure 705 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: out what that was what happened. But you know, having 706 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: a Travis Scott show and we've done shows you know, 707 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: all over that wasn't the you know what happened here. 708 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: You know something that happened here, you know, and that's 709 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: why I want to fix it, because it can happen anywhere, 710 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think once we 711 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: get further along in that, I think, you know, you know, 712 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: it would be more a little bit more receptive. I feel, 713 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: just just you as an individual when you perform again, 714 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: what precautions will you take moving forward? Just you just 715 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: based on what you can personally control, precautions would you 716 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: take moving forward? I'll do the same thing i've you know, 717 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: been doing, just double you know, making sure everybody is 718 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: on post and you know, I'll do the you know, 719 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: double down and just making sure that everyone is locked in, 720 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: everyone is aware, everyone is on response, everybody is on 721 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, on it, you know what I'm saying, and 722 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: look out. Try to you know, if you felt like 723 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't there, more pushed for it to be more. 724 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: Push the call and response more with the fans, like 725 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: what you mean, like y'all okay or you know, or 726 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: like you know, try to have some sort of call 727 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: and response with the fans while still being smooth in 728 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: the performance. At the end of the day, it's still 729 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: performance are right, you know what I'm saying. Um, And 730 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: that's why the whole general, whole idea about this is 731 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that is all these factors 732 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: are done before we even go in cit these things, 733 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, um, because you want to just when you 734 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: go in, you want to have the mindset that, okay, 735 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: people are gonna be okay, we can have a good show. 736 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: If anything's going down, people are gonna be right there 737 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: to be the first one to get to him, you know, 738 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: and if it's gonna be in the communication, it's you know, communication. 739 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I think, yeah, when you did stop 740 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: the show, how did you see that one person? I 741 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: mean he was right there. You know, you had like 742 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: you had people like just spread it out, you know, 743 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: And so I'm looking and I'm like, oh, so I 744 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: just called down and you know the medics just came in, responded, 745 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: got him out. You know that's the only one you 746 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: saw that, Yeah, it's only one I saw. And then 747 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: you know when I seen the lights in the back, 748 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, I just double check make sure everyone's okay. 749 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: You know, I got a response to everyone's okay. Yeah. 750 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: How normal is that to see ambalances and everything else 751 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: at these facts. Well it was it was lights, so 752 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, an ambulance don't really have like red and 753 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: blue lights, you know, as you thought of I don't, 754 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: you don't know, you just you're just looking at his lights. 755 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: That's why I acts. I'm just like yo, it's an ambulance. 756 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: It's like what's going on. You don't know if it's 757 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: like somebody got to light something doing, you know, doing 758 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: some turn, you don't know, you know, but you know 759 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: they didn't get a response, so you know, you know 760 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: you got a response to fans. You know that I 761 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: actually want to put her hand up um, and then 762 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: you know they're get a response for anything else. So 763 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: just carried on. Did it make you feel judged when 764 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: you see videos, you know, circulating the other artists stopping 765 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: their shows like to check on fans since since after World, 766 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: because it's almost like the insinuation from other artists that like, 767 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: you didn't do enough, So we don't want to be 768 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: like TRAVI. I'll take it as you know, they're just 769 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: taking extra precautions, you know, because it might not have 770 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 1: been something that you know, it's running though their mind 771 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: at time before and they're just taking extra precautions to 772 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, make sure they don't run through the same 773 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: same problems. And I commend them for that. You know, 774 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: I've always done the same thing, you know, in my 775 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: prior shows and at the show, so you know, I 776 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: feel them, you know. I just think it's been a 777 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 1: little bit more people are more capturing now, like because 778 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: of what's going on. I think that's just how the 779 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: media works. Do you feel like your team right now 780 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,479 Speaker 1: is allowing you to do everything that you possibly could 781 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: do and as far as what this, as far as 782 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: like anything regardless to the situation, you know, speaking out well, 783 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: reaching out to families whatever, well, yeah, you know, you 784 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: know it's a lot of league go into it. But 785 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm you know, I'm human, 786 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: So I want to do so much to try to 787 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: like help and heal. And you know, you want to 788 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: give time for people to heal. You want to give time, 789 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: but you know, I want to be able to like 790 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: go and start taking these steps to you know, addressing 791 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: these you know, these problems and you know, getting to 792 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: the solutions, you know, addressing the solutions and addressing ways 793 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: to fix these things from happening in the future, Like um, 794 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's the main thing. And I've always 795 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: took a I've always took pride in trying to lead 796 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: things and go and attack things and you know, be 797 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: the first to jump out and go do it. You know. 798 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm more than you know, happy enough to go. 799 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: But but then there's the person Travis Scott. But then 800 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: there's the business, the Travis Scott. I'm sure there's a 801 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: lot of people around you trying to protect the business. Yeah, 802 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: so for you personally, like you know, how much do 803 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: you want to protect the business as well? Well? I 804 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: mean at the end of the day, like people have 805 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: to understand, these businesses aren't built because you know you 806 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: Charlotte Magne and home Travis. So it's like I've always 807 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: cared about, you know, the fans. I don't give but 808 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's about them, you know. So it's like 809 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: obviously it's like business and this, but I've always been 810 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: the one that's like pushed back on vocally like yo, 811 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta you know, this is about you know, 812 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: the fans and you know the team is always felt 813 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: the same way. Um and so and anytime I've ever 814 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: done anything corporately, that's just I I've always been. It's 815 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: just like yo, we want to go do things to 816 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: make sure that the people that are experiencing this product 817 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: is having the best experience. 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But um, I've 855 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: never jumped into things with people that didn't know me. 856 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: So everyone I surrounded myself with, you know, it's always 857 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: been you know, a backbone and you know, supportive anything 858 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 1: I you know, I want to do to help fix 859 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: anything that could be a good cause, you know. So 860 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 1: you know I'm thankful for that. You know, if the 861 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: families are the victims, never forgive you, Will you ever 862 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: be able to forgive yourself? Can you live with that? No? 863 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: It's tough, you know, it's real tough, um, because I 864 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: want them to really know that my intentions, you know, 865 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, it wasn't a harm their family at all. 866 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: It's for them to come and have a good experience, um, 867 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: you know. And I yeah, like you know, I've always 868 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: feel like I have a connection with my fans, you know, 869 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: through the music. I feel like when they come to 870 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: see me, and it's not just like oh they're coming, 871 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: they're coming to it's like a connection. Um. And you know, 872 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: sometimes not knowing, you know, people are not understanding like 873 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: artists and where we come from that it could be 874 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: a disconnect and you know, I would love to you know, 875 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: instead of understanding and you know, for them to truly 876 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: know my hearts from you know, it didn't come for 877 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: them for me to harm, and it wasn't about a 878 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: show to keep you know at all. You know, it's 879 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: a you know, it's about for them to have you know, 880 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: one of the you know, a very good time and 881 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: it's just tragic that it didn't turn out that way. 882 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: You know. Do you feel like you're being villainised? I mean, 883 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: I feel like it comes with being in the seat, 884 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like they pointing the finger 885 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: at me because it's my festival or they want to 886 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's I am who I am, you know, 887 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: and it maybe not a lot of like understanding about 888 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: like what's going on. But you know, like I said before, 889 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I can kind of like take that 890 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: um in a sense um because my whole career, I 891 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: feel like people have been trying to do that and 892 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I've shown through actions that that's not 893 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: my character, that's not you know, that's not who I am. 894 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm shining through positive you know, um. And I 895 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, with understanding and with everything. I 896 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: feel like people understand that what my heart wasn't there 897 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: to be the villain, you know, I was sad to 898 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: be like a hometown hero, you know. The day before 899 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: Astro World, UM, this footage of you discussing the importance 900 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: of giving back to your community and how much it 901 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: means to you to be able to do that. Do 902 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: you think people have forgotten you know, your heart and 903 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: all this and what after World was truly about. You know, 904 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: I think people are you know, grieving, and you can 905 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: get I can get you know, misplaced with you know, 906 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: who cares about that what's going on right now. But 907 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, UM, I just want to 908 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: continue to you know, stay on those stepping blocks and 909 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: continue to doing the charity I've been doing it, and 910 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: continue to doing the community to work I've been doing Houston. 911 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 1: You know, Um, I was doing those things before and 912 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: not looking for people to pat me on the back 913 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: for him you know, I was just doing them just 914 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: simply just to make a change. And so you wouldn't 915 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: be surprised if people don't, you know, pay attention to 916 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: some of those things throughout whenever you are doing them. 917 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: But that's not what you're doing for really, so I 918 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: feel like at the end of the day, you continue 919 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: to do those things regardless, you know, you think you'll 920 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: ever be able to recover from this emotionally. You know, 921 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: my grandmother and my dad, my mom, they've always told 922 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: me to, you know, put your faith in God and 923 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: how behind this wing. Um. And at the end of 924 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: the day, I think you gotta I've always told myself, 925 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, things aren't gonna get it's hard. You know, 926 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: things can be feeling amazing sometimes and things can get 927 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: real hard, you know. And I think how you respond 928 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: to things and where you channel your emotions is very important, 929 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, especially at a time like this. And um 930 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 1: and I gave you know it was it was hard 931 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,439 Speaker 1: for me to really because it was the first its 932 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: first time anything like this I've even seen anything like 933 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: this hurting me and be happening, you know, to this 934 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: whole community. You know, Um, it just it just you know, 935 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: you kind of just you want to be able to 936 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: channel that emotion to just respond. And you gotta be 937 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: strong man. Um. Stepping in and doing the things for 938 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: the community doesn't come with being you know, too weak. 939 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to you know, step through these 940 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: things and show people that you really you really care. 941 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,959 Speaker 1: You know. This wasn't just to get to the point 942 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: to do this, but it was really to create active change, 943 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: you know. And I think you know these are you know, 944 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: it's these moments right now where you gotta really show, 945 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, where your heart is in this thing, you know. UM. 946 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: And I think you know that's what I've always you 947 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: know one wanted to do and you know I want 948 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 1: to just continue to do that. I'm glad you mentioned 949 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: your family because that was one of my one of 950 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: my last questions, like how important this family been in 951 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: this situation? Uh? You know it's been important, you know. UM, 952 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, you know all my family was there too, 953 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, so it's been important. UM. But to be 954 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: able to have them and bounce back you know ideas 955 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: and you know them, grieve with you know, for those 956 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,959 Speaker 1: families as well. UM, pray for those families as well, 957 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: continue to you know them also being a help in 958 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: hand as well, you know, UM, which gives me more 959 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: hands to help. UM. I feel like which is more important? UM? 960 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 1: And you know, you know them always having my back 961 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: to support the idea want to create this change. I 962 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: think you know at least gives me more confidence that 963 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not in this alone, you know what 964 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying to um, help fix this, you know, for this, 965 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: for the families, for the community as a superstar. It's weird, 966 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 1: right because the same outlets that report on this tragedy, 967 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: which something like the w cover leaps did not you 968 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: want to get back to your relationship and whether you 969 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: and you know Kylie together or not, is that not 970 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: strange to you? I mean, yeah, so I don't really 971 00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: like do only do magazines? I like, you know, but 972 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: you know, magazine's gonna try to like figure out what 973 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: the fuck they want to figure out, you know. I 974 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: just I've never did anything for a relationship for it, 975 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 1: you know, anybody to try to figure out and put 976 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: a label on what they want to put it on. 977 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, we know what our relationship is, and you know, 978 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: so I just stand strong on it. So I guess 979 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: my final question, man, who do who? Who does? Who 980 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: does Travis got? Ultimately, I guess think is responsible for 981 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 1: this traged You know, it's crazy because something tragic happening 982 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: here and what's what what I've just been trying to, 983 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: you know, get to the bottom of it. Is just 984 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: what happened here, how it happened here. And you know, 985 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: I think the families are old, you know that. I 986 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, the community is old that I 987 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 1: feel like we're old that to just know what happened here. Um, 988 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want to I don't want 989 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: to just speak too soon. I just want to figure out, 990 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, what happened, you know. Um. But you know, we, 991 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: like I said, you know, as artists, we just leave 992 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: this up you know, to you know, to professionals to 993 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: make sure that we you know that fans are happening 994 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 1: a good time every you know, people are protected and 995 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 1: can you know, leave and have the best experience ever. 996 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: You know, they're going to pick this interview apart. So 997 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: is there anything you want to say, you know, to 998 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 1: your fans, to the family of people who lost loved ones, 999 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, before we get out of here. I mean, 1000 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: I just want to I want everyone to can just 1001 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,800 Speaker 1: continue praying for the fans. Um. I want to continue. 1002 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: I want people to continue praying for the ones, the 1003 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 1: fans I was lost, you know, I want people to 1004 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: continue praying for the families. Um. I want people to 1005 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: continue just reaching out for healing. UM, I want people 1006 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: to continue to just be there for each other, UM, 1007 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: and remember that you know that love is just you 1008 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: know everything, and with that, you know, we can try 1009 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: to cure everything, you know, and take steps into you know, healing. 1010 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: And I think the more we try to, you know, 1011 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: continue to let people grieve and continue to be there 1012 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 1: for people and you know, check in more people and 1013 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, checking on your loved ones and just you 1014 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: know that, you know, I think that's just like one 1015 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: of the most important things. You know, UM, stand strong 1016 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: to this while we you know, figure out what's going on, 1017 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 1: you know, and and bring understanding to these families and 1018 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 1: to the community. That's what we're gonna. Donna send healing 1019 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: energy to everybody involved, the families, you know, those who 1020 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: were lost yourself, because nobody wants tragedies like just that, Yeah, 1021 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 1: not at all, So preventing the moving forward is the 1022 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:06,959 Speaker 1: only thing we can do. Appreciate your brother man, Yes, sir, absolutely. Hello. Hello. 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