Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at
Speaker 1: the chim he still at twenty. He said the twenty
Speaker 1: five p thirty come aboard to yearline. We see history,
Speaker 1: fifty forty come a thirty. Michael run, Michael run, Michael run.
Speaker 1: Such stops half a day. The fare you go in
Speaker 1: that shotgun sense. We receivers left and here's the staff
Speaker 1: of the glitzer has picked up. Brady Unity caught ball
Speaker 1: and he has the record at the eleven yard line.
Speaker 1: Mike Kevins becomes the first NFL player from lead history
Speaker 1: to record a thousand yards and board this first seventh
Speaker 1: season to want to throw by Brady. Congratulations Mike Kevins,
Speaker 1: who can forget again? I'm looking against the side the
Speaker 1: already thirty touchdowns ham a day. Derek Brooks Spalliot player
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, dress Dot Daggers in where
Speaker 1: you gonna win the Super Bowl? There's the snap, My
Speaker 1: homes running to his right and look out he may
Speaker 1: run my home director and a sun picked up with
Speaker 1: the fox. Are gotta be the chief. We're the champions
Speaker 1: of the world. We still have. I'm at a thirty
Speaker 1: three to go Devin White, but a great second season.
Speaker 1: That's it. We're Casey Box on the Super Bowl Champs.
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Speaker 1: That And and I actually don't need a ton of
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Speaker 1: is weird. Yeah, I'm usually done in five. I like them.
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Speaker 1: And then of course there is a regular hot one,
Speaker 1: so you have three different that Nashville Hot Rubs sounds
Speaker 1: like it was better than I expected because I like
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Speaker 1: Now we know what we're doing. Brady's moment. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're probably a little extra salty today, not only because
Speaker 1: the Bucks lost and they don't do that much anymore,
Speaker 1: so we don't have anything to complain about. That's for
Speaker 1: lots to complain about. Well, I would complain, but I
Speaker 1: will start with the opposite of a complaint. I will
Speaker 1: tell you something I'm very very happy about. It is that,
Speaker 1: barring probably an unlikely rematch in the playoffs, we don't
Speaker 1: have to go to that damn building again for probably
Speaker 1: about a season. I would be so happy about that.
Speaker 1: I hope the next I hope it's week seventeen next year,
Speaker 1: so it's like fourteen months before I have to go
Speaker 1: back to that cursed place. Yeah, there's something about it. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: it's been bad for us the playoffs last year, notwithstanding
Speaker 1: was great, it's been bad first for the most part.
Speaker 1: Plus I just hate the place. Yeah, even other people
Speaker 1: the place, even though they spent millions of dollars upgrading
Speaker 1: it apparently, and still there's only one elevator to the
Speaker 1: press box that fits about seven people. There's actually two
Speaker 1: elevators to the press box, but they won't let you
Speaker 1: use the other one because it's only for NW Orleans people.
Speaker 1: I walked, I walked down there with about four minutes
Speaker 1: left in the game, because that's the way that that's
Speaker 1: the way the PR guys went. Wanted to go down
Speaker 1: to the press comments frum and the woman is cheering
Speaker 1: like crazy for the Saints. She doesn't see me walk up,
Speaker 1: and then she walked, oh, I didn't even see you there,
Speaker 1: and she starts talking about we really have to win
Speaker 1: the scheme, and then she looks at me goes, wait,
Speaker 1: are you with the Saint And I said, no, I'm
Speaker 1: with the Bucks And she said, oh, well, then you
Speaker 1: can't go down this elevator, so I go to the
Speaker 1: other elevator. They hold that at two minutes for coaches,
Speaker 1: which I understand. Elevator eight, Yeah, I understand they hold
Speaker 1: it for coaches, but they say they hold it from
Speaker 1: the two minutes. There's like four minutes left in the
Speaker 1: game and they're already holding it, and the last two
Speaker 1: minutes are gonna take like half an hour. So you
Speaker 1: could go up and down a few times and you'd
Speaker 1: still be fine with So I couldn't just just stuck
Speaker 1: there for longer than should be. Fortunately, Karmen did a
Speaker 1: smart thing Karmen Vitality staff writer and had made friends
Speaker 1: with one of the workers there, which was a good
Speaker 1: move the opposite direction. I approtected. Sure, I gotta give
Speaker 1: her credit for that, and they let us get on
Speaker 1: with the coaches. So were you being were you being salty?
Speaker 1: I was a little salty. I wasn't really like saying
Speaker 1: anything directly to him. That was grumbling quite a bit. Okay.
Speaker 1: So so plus the just the press box up there
Speaker 1: so high and all the noise. You have to crane
Speaker 1: your neck to see the replays on the TVs. And
Speaker 1: Dave Moore had a good line. He goes, I feel
Speaker 1: like we're watching the game from the blimp, which is
Speaker 1: it where we're above where if you've ever seen the
Speaker 1: super Dome, if you where where the rafters are and
Speaker 1: the speakers are right there. Yeah, you know you're high
Speaker 1: when your speakers are directly in front of you, and
Speaker 1: that's that's how you know. And you can see through
Speaker 1: the girders down. That's your high. And they play those
Speaker 1: if there's an annoying song in the culture, it's part
Speaker 1: of their game program. Is that it especially on that.
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you they those fans were and
Speaker 1: it's all the way from from introductions until the end
Speaker 1: of the game. Now, when the Buccaneers were making a
Speaker 1: bit of a comeback, it got a little quiet, but
Speaker 1: then they came back strong. It's very strong. It also
Speaker 1: got very subdued when Jamis got hurt, which is a shame.
Speaker 1: And we have found out, unsurprisingly having seen it happen,
Speaker 1: that it's probably ending, which nobody wants. No, no, you can,
Speaker 1: you can, um, you can root against your rivals, but
Speaker 1: you you don't root for injuries. And we all know him,
Speaker 1: we hate to start again, and you're happy for him
Speaker 1: in that regard, other than when they play the Bucks.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, you know it's real shame. You know
Speaker 1: it's funny, not ha ha funny, but a comment. Um,
Speaker 1: after the first couple of series, we went into commercial
Speaker 1: break and I made a comment, I said, I'm really
Speaker 1: getting concerned because Jamie seems to be like he really
Speaker 1: wants to run and that's a good way to get hurt.
Speaker 1: And then we came back and yes, so the crowd
Speaker 1: was understandably subdued to that you lose your starting quarterback
Speaker 1: to what looks like a pretty bad injury kind of
Speaker 1: quieted down the place, and then the Bucks had the ball.
Speaker 1: It's tied at seven. Jamis is out of the game.
Speaker 1: They're on their backup quarterback who hasn't thrown a pass
Speaker 1: in like three seasons, but he was a starter before.
Speaker 1: But I still this guy that hasn't thrown a pass.
Speaker 1: So all of the picture, you're you're sad for Jameis ball.
Speaker 1: That picture looks pretty good for the Buck. Across midfield,
Speaker 1: we got a chance to take the lead. The place
Speaker 1: is subdued. Then two out of the next three Bucks
Speaker 1: offensive snaps were turnovers, and that changed the whole game.
Speaker 1: Now I thought that might be it, like we may
Speaker 1: not come back from this because it was just such
Speaker 1: a drastic change, But we've got Tom Brady and he
Speaker 1: comes back all the time, so we actually did. Then
Speaker 1: sees the momentum back and got and had the lead,
Speaker 1: just couldn't get the defensive stop and it didn't help
Speaker 1: the penalties we had him they would have been in
Speaker 1: a fourth down at about where it would be like
Speaker 1: a fifty something yard field goal or they go for
Speaker 1: it on fourth down. So and we had the lead
Speaker 1: after our field goals, we were in good spot. And
Speaker 1: then the which penalty was that it was the downfield
Speaker 1: hold call on Ross Cockrellers and obviously and it was
Speaker 1: a hold. It was a hold. I didn't really see
Speaker 1: the unfortunately they called it because the play wasn't near
Speaker 1: it at all. There was nothing there. It wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 1: here comes the ball and I held him. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know how one of my biggest axes to grind is
Speaker 1: um I wish that there was replay of roughing the pastor.
Speaker 1: And by the rules, both of the roughing the pastor
Speaker 1: calls we got were legit. Ye you know, I think
Speaker 1: that's the gill Gholston when he really did hit him late. Well,
Speaker 1: in fairness and fairness to William, I thought he just
Speaker 1: didn't realize the pass was out. That's why, because he
Speaker 1: kept now that that particular play, yes, you have to
Speaker 1: call because he was late. Because he was late. However,
Speaker 1: he didn't have his helmet on, and you have to
Speaker 1: ask yourself why didn't he have his helmet on? And
Speaker 1: that's because the offensive lineman had his hands the hands
Speaker 1: to the face call and pushed the helmet off his head.
Speaker 1: But we'll just kept going. So he probably had no idea,
Speaker 1: had no idea. That's the impression I got for because,
Speaker 1: for one thing, the last player in this whole team
Speaker 1: that would be a dirty player's wal Golston. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: and he finished the play because he did not know.
Speaker 1: And the thing was there wasn't It wasn't like you
Speaker 1: you could tell the play was over with. It was
Speaker 1: just so quick. So and I I but it is
Speaker 1: a worthwhile penalty. It is. It had to be thrown.
Speaker 1: It had to be thrown. However, I think they missed.
Speaker 1: It should have been offsetting pen off, saying that that
Speaker 1: still would have erased of the interception. And then the
Speaker 1: other one was hands to the face, which I usually
Speaker 1: want to write off as an accident. I don't think
Speaker 1: you go knowing the rules. I don't think anybody goes
Speaker 1: back there trying to swat at the guy's face. But
Speaker 1: I guess you just had to be more careful, would
Speaker 1: be Bruce Arian's point, especially he when he as he says,
Speaker 1: they scout every crew, and this crew calls the most
Speaker 1: roughing the pastor penalty, so you know you can't get
Speaker 1: away with it. And they had talks and eatings about
Speaker 1: that that you but I think we're talking about this
Speaker 1: in the Hawaii, not you and I, but Chris King
Speaker 1: and I from UH Community Communications. I want to call
Speaker 1: them pr but now they're called pr Uh. There is
Speaker 1: just something about when the Bucks go to play the Saints,
Speaker 1: it's like they get more jazz more. They make mistakes.
Speaker 1: Even though they talked about all week about how they
Speaker 1: have to be in control, we're not going to do
Speaker 1: that correct and it happens. And um that was interesting too.
Speaker 1: And um Bruce arians radio show, he made a comment
Speaker 1: that he was most disappointed, of course the penalties and
Speaker 1: the turnovers, but even more so giving up the lead
Speaker 1: after you got the lead in the fourth corps and
Speaker 1: part of that was because of penalties though, So I
Speaker 1: didn't finish that thought, and you brought up Chris King.
Speaker 1: I was saying. My extra grind is, Um, the wish
Speaker 1: we could review Roughing the show or his and I
Speaker 1: agree with them completely is that every defensive holding call
Speaker 1: is five yards and an automatic for down. And there
Speaker 1: are just situations where it's just too punitive of a penalty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give them the five yards and let him run another plate.
Speaker 1: But on third and sixteen the quarterbacks rolling this way,
Speaker 1: not even looking towards the guy. Yeah, he committed a penalty,
Speaker 1: so throw the flag. But it shouldn't be an automatic
Speaker 1: first down. And this is not a Bucks thing. This
Speaker 1: is just total Why why are you giving up? Why
Speaker 1: are you giving them a first down plus five yards?
Speaker 1: Give them the five yards and move on? Yeah, when
Speaker 1: we're and if five yards is enough for a first time,
Speaker 1: then they earned it. Otherwise they still get another play
Speaker 1: in their five yards closer. It's just defensive holding, which
Speaker 1: can you can probably call it almost every snap if
Speaker 1: you want to. Well, yeah, so it's I agree with
Speaker 1: Chris on that one. I wish they would change that.
Speaker 1: I don't think they ever will so, but but it it.
Speaker 1: You know, you just have to be more disciplined. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of aggressive this, There was a lot,
Speaker 1: but you know, there has to be a There was
Speaker 1: a taunting there was, which is easily avoidable obviously. I
Speaker 1: just the reason I just okay, the reason why is
Speaker 1: is what are you gaining by that? What are you gaining?
Speaker 1: I'll say this, there are players who are part of
Speaker 1: their game is being very talked. They talk a lot,
Speaker 1: they talk, they talk smack, sure, And I've never been
Speaker 1: that way. When I played much, much, much, much, much
Speaker 1: lower level sports. I was never a trash, probably because
Speaker 1: I wasn't always confident, got you. So it's just something
Speaker 1: that's ingrained in their style of play. So and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of players out there in the field. They
Speaker 1: are drawn back and forth. So you just at some
Speaker 1: point though, you have to realize when you're about to
Speaker 1: take it too far. Well, you can, you can jaw
Speaker 1: back and forth, but you can't stand over somebody. After
Speaker 1: as soon as you do that, you're getting the flag. Now,
Speaker 1: I will say I didn't think it was being called
Speaker 1: both ways, but it always feels that way when you're
Speaker 1: on the wrong right. But you see the taunts because
Speaker 1: you describe that's what players do. However, again, if you
Speaker 1: bend over, you're gonna get the flag. You guys stand
Speaker 1: there and talk to your other guy and go, boy,
Speaker 1: I really whipped his button there, you know, right walk
Speaker 1: away as you're saying, and they know that it's just
Speaker 1: the heat of the moment. I can't get too mad, no,
Speaker 1: but you can. You can when you're wrecking up that
Speaker 1: many penalties. And unfortunately Devin White, who had like forty
Speaker 1: five yards three different fifty and that and that is
Speaker 1: you know, well, the coaches will will obviously make their callings,
Speaker 1: but he's also a great player. Well, no question, um so, Jeff,
Speaker 1: there's been a shot fired in the NFC playoff race.
Speaker 1: You see the news, uh with um Miller going to
Speaker 1: Don Miller to the to the Rams, which you have,
Speaker 1: which I find interesting because I thought the Rams were
Speaker 1: pretty good defensively, Well, they are good, but I think
Speaker 1: the key thing note here is what Bruce was saying
Speaker 1: last week when he was asked about the Saints defense,
Speaker 1: and he says, it's the best eleven that we're gonna face.
Speaker 1: So he was basically saying they're good. All their everybody's good. Now,
Speaker 1: the Rams have some superstars, Aaron Donald and Jayla Ramsey
Speaker 1: chief among them, but maybe they're not quite as strong.
Speaker 1: One to eleven and I know it's more than eleven
Speaker 1: because you have nickelbacks, but you get the point. Sure
Speaker 1: one to eleven on the field at any given time.
Speaker 1: He feels that the Saints are stronger. So the Rams
Speaker 1: have a good defense. They definitely do, but they could
Speaker 1: use another passwords. I mean, most teams could. So now
Speaker 1: you got Aaron Donald in the middle, who always makes
Speaker 1: things great. Look what happened for guys like Leonard Floyd
Speaker 1: and um the guy that went to the Falcons this year.
Speaker 1: I can't think a name right now. They they have
Speaker 1: disappointed numbers and they come play with Aaron donalds in
Speaker 1: any career years and they get signed somewhere else and
Speaker 1: they're back to where they were. So now you have
Speaker 1: Aaron donald making life easy for not only Leonard Floyd
Speaker 1: but Von Miller. I don't know if Von Miller is
Speaker 1: seventy eight percent of him at his peak. That's a
Speaker 1: big move. And they gave up second and third round
Speaker 1: draft picks. But the Rams never've never had a draft
Speaker 1: pick under their current management that they didn't want to
Speaker 1: get rid of as soon as possible. You realize they
Speaker 1: don't have their one, two, three, four or six round
Speaker 1: draft picks next year. They just don't care those like,
Speaker 1: we'll use those those assets to get the guy we
Speaker 1: want right now, as opposed to using those assets in
Speaker 1: next spring and hope and I you know, there's you
Speaker 1: can see both sides. They've taken it to the absolute extreme.
Speaker 1: I mean they I don't think they've made a first
Speaker 1: round picking like five years, and they won't for like
Speaker 1: three more years. And I think in the long run,
Speaker 1: it's hard to do business that way, in part because
Speaker 1: and the von Miller thing doesn't really apply because the
Speaker 1: Broncos are paying like nine million of his nine and
Speaker 1: f million dollar salary or something, and they and I
Speaker 1: think he's a free agent at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: So the Rams basically traded second thro round picks four
Speaker 1: half a season of von Miller. But if you win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl out of it, then it was Yeah.
Speaker 1: But what I was gonna say is that a lot
Speaker 1: of guys, like when you trade for Jalen Ramsey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get a guy that you already know is established
Speaker 1: great player, but you also get his salary. And if
Speaker 1: you hit on a first round draft pick, like say
Speaker 1: the Bucks did with Devin White or Via that, you've
Speaker 1: got four or five years of relatively controlled salary for
Speaker 1: a really good player. It's just you won't necessarily hit.
Speaker 1: They take the shirt thing. You know, work the hour
Speaker 1: up whoever they can, and you know, they'll just keep
Speaker 1: building the roster through trades and lower round draft picks
Speaker 1: and undrafted free agents and whatever. And I mean, I
Speaker 1: agree they're a prime Super Bowl contender right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw Sean mcveigh's uh interview about it, and he
Speaker 1: said that, um, you know, it was kind of developing
Speaker 1: over for a week and didn't really think it would happen.
Speaker 1: It couldn't, you know. But because it became available, it
Speaker 1: was something that they sat down and looked at and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is something that we should do and this is
Speaker 1: going to help us, this is going to put us
Speaker 1: in a better position. And now are the Brinkles gonna
Speaker 1: keep selling it? Of course they only got what they've
Speaker 1: got a few hours at five minutes I left, But
Speaker 1: you immediately think saintany a quarterback teddy bridge Water was
Speaker 1: pretty good. Right, kind of makes some sense, right, Well,
Speaker 1: you would think, right unless they unless they're really sold
Speaker 1: on um, I think when Taysom Hill gets back, he
Speaker 1: gets the job. Well yeah, well he's coming back from
Speaker 1: concussion protocols. He's been out three games. Are you got
Speaker 1: to be pretty soon? Yeah? But the problem there is
Speaker 1: is if you you know, like anything else, um with
Speaker 1: you know, if you're coming back from a concussion protocol,
Speaker 1: you're more prone to a concussion sooner. So it could
Speaker 1: be something I guess they're trying to figure it and
Speaker 1: figure it out partially, uh, making that even more so
Speaker 1: is the fact that they use him in non traditional ways.
Speaker 1: So he's that's how he got hurt trying to make
Speaker 1: a diving catch. That's how I got his concussion. So
Speaker 1: maybe they would tone down that bit of it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, they could stick whatever. But but what does
Speaker 1: he do though? He runs, that's he's he's gonna run.
Speaker 1: He's gonna run. But happen What happens when you run? You?
Speaker 1: I mean, don't design plays that where he's the Receiver's
Speaker 1: my point. Yeah, um, speaking of being receivers and stuff,
Speaker 1: I thought dark trick play. Almost the receivers were open.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we were going to run a trick.
Speaker 1: It was good, it was a good it was a
Speaker 1: good defensive read though, so Leonard was gonna throw it
Speaker 1: back to Tom. Okay, that was that would have been exciting.
Speaker 1: But then I guess he saw that's a risky pass
Speaker 1: and then the whole play fell apart. But I'm glad
Speaker 1: we tried something. I think that was the play that
Speaker 1: um I want to say that was the play that
Speaker 1: the Saints used against us with jamis not exactly and
Speaker 1: also similar to the New England. Um, well, they had
Speaker 1: a receiver throwing the ball and ye haven't did this one.
Speaker 1: We're throwing it back to the quarterback. When Jamie through
Speaker 1: the touchdown against US in the playoffs, Um, I thought
Speaker 1: that was tossed to him. It was, but it was
Speaker 1: I believe they gave it to a receiver like tray
Speaker 1: Kawan Smith or something like that on an end around
Speaker 1: and it might been Smith that caught the past and
Speaker 1: then he pitched it to James. All right, But anyway,
Speaker 1: I was fun. I was fun to watch. Yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. I wish we'd do more
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, you can't do them all the time,
Speaker 1: but sprinkle them. Yeah, And that was interesting because again, uh,
Speaker 1: during BEA's radio show, he was saying that it's something
Speaker 1: that they have been practicing. You know, you practiced it
Speaker 1: for like four weeks and you go, okay, we're good,
Speaker 1: We're now we can we can call it in a
Speaker 1: game if the right opportunity arises. And he thought that, uh,
Speaker 1: Byron Lefferich made a great call at that time, like
Speaker 1: this that was a perfect time to do it. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear the show. Did He also say that Linner
Speaker 1: made a good decision not to throw it. I didn't
Speaker 1: elaborate that far well. In any case, As for the Rams,
Speaker 1: the reason we're talking about the Rams even though we
Speaker 1: don't played in weeks ago, is that this NFC playoff picture.
Speaker 1: I was writing about this yesterday. Um, okay, So the
Speaker 1: Bucks right now after eight games or six and two,
Speaker 1: they're a half game ahead of New Orleans at five
Speaker 1: and two. You know where those two teams stood after
Speaker 1: eight games last year, same place, exactly the same point.
Speaker 1: And yet did you feel at six halfway through last
Speaker 1: year that we were considered prime Super Bowl contenders? The
Speaker 1: often Tom Brady in the office was still trying to
Speaker 1: really get jailed. No, that was because we we took
Speaker 1: a took a hard loss against Chicago, and then the
Speaker 1: Kansas City game didn't exact well. That was after we
Speaker 1: got to six and two. We lost and we lost
Speaker 1: our first game in New Orleans, and we lost to Chicago,
Speaker 1: and we had won three in a row to get
Speaker 1: to six and two, and then the next game would
Speaker 1: be the Faithful Science blowout, So you feel great? I
Speaker 1: don't remember feeling like we were. We were the favorites
Speaker 1: to win the NFC at that time we're back in
Speaker 1: the same position right now, six and two, and now
Speaker 1: we're the defending champs, and we're still in first place
Speaker 1: in our division. And it should feel if the defending
Speaker 1: champs are six and two and in first place in
Speaker 1: our division, that's a prime Super Bowl contender, and we are.
Speaker 1: But the NFC is so top heavy that you'd be
Speaker 1: hard pressed to find a consistent, consistent on who the
Speaker 1: real clear cut favorite is. I don't think there is one.
Speaker 1: I would say the Rams are right up there with us,
Speaker 1: and of course we're we have the fourth best record
Speaker 1: in the in the conference now, so I'm making a
Speaker 1: bit of a leap. I say, I still think we're
Speaker 1: one of the top I think we're I think it's
Speaker 1: us in the Rams personally, maybe the Packers next. I
Speaker 1: have to say, you gotta give credit to the Packers.
Speaker 1: They didn't look good their first game, but after and
Speaker 1: they play. They won in Arizona, and with like half
Speaker 1: the receivers on the COVID list, and they've had their
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator on the COVID and they've had a ton
Speaker 1: of batories too. They've had a lot of injuries um
Speaker 1: and significant players, which what's so scary is that the
Speaker 1: NFC is so strong right now that you almost you
Speaker 1: almost feel like you have to win your division because
Speaker 1: if you don't, it's gonna be slim picking and you
Speaker 1: could have a great record and not make it. Right now.
Speaker 1: If the playoffs started right now, the Bucks would be
Speaker 1: the four seeds, so they have there's only one by
Speaker 1: so they would be the third of the three teams
Speaker 1: that get to play at home, and that means they
Speaker 1: would play the first of the three wild card teams,
Speaker 1: and that would be the Rams. So what you could
Speaker 1: get for winning your division is the fourth seed and
Speaker 1: a game against one of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Because the Rams and Cardinals are both seven and one,
Speaker 1: and I saw the standing side of the Cardinals, so
Speaker 1: they must have something. I think they beat the Rams,
Speaker 1: so they got a hybrid run right now. But you
Speaker 1: got the Cardinals and the Rams of seven and one,
Speaker 1: the Packers at seven and one, the Cowboys at seven
Speaker 1: and one, we're at six and two, the Saints are
Speaker 1: five and two. That's six teams right there. I know
Speaker 1: seven make it in, but I think all six of
Speaker 1: those teams are gonna be there at the end, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think the the part that got me about
Speaker 1: losing again to the Saints. I just thought that if
Speaker 1: you could win that game, you'd be in great shape.
Speaker 1: You pretty much locked it up because two and a half,
Speaker 1: you do and a half ahead. They got to play
Speaker 1: this week. You're off, so you could play the Falcons
Speaker 1: and they're probably too crazy to back, but they could
Speaker 1: be three. They could be. So the worst cases they're
Speaker 1: the best case is three. Worst case there too. The
Speaker 1: two game lead is pretty good, very good, and nine
Speaker 1: games ago, and so that's kind it would have been
Speaker 1: a big win. It would have been And I thought
Speaker 1: we had it there for a minute. I did think,
Speaker 1: and I think you said this, Oh and we haven't
Speaker 1: done our favorite thing, which is my little gimmick, your
Speaker 1: favorite thing, oh, my favorite thing in the game. I like,
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool to see, uh, Mike Evans beat
Speaker 1: Marshall more for the touchdown, because that's not only my
Speaker 1: I'm gonna add to that. Not only does he beat
Speaker 1: him for a touchdown, but there's a penalty on the
Speaker 1: play and he still beats him. He's getting tackled and
Speaker 1: he still catches that. That's really beating someone that no.
Speaker 1: The Saints can't call Lattimer and Evans a win this time,
Speaker 1: but it's not really a loss for the most part.
Speaker 1: Yither because he only got targeted four times. The point
Speaker 1: of putting Lattimore on it, Yeah, I give you that.
Speaker 1: But I also loved Chris Godwin's catch and then uh
Speaker 1: stiff arming the guy on the sideline. He got some
Speaker 1: kind of angry runs. Oh yeah he did from the
Speaker 1: NFL NFL network. Yeah, but I mean just how he
Speaker 1: like it looked like he was he breaks the tap,
Speaker 1: goes through and then he yeah, just that old. Is
Speaker 1: that the play where he got yes? Correct? So that
Speaker 1: was a really good game. Yeah. I enjoyed that well,
Speaker 1: and we also should I know, we're talking about those catches,
Speaker 1: but Cyril Grayson catching that was the second catch of
Speaker 1: his entire career, his first touchdown obviously. The first catch
Speaker 1: was a three yarder in two thousand nineteen. He says
Speaker 1: he grew up about ten miles from the Superdome. Wow,
Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool that he got his first catch
Speaker 1: and he became the seven player in the regular season
Speaker 1: and overall to catch a touchdown pass from Tom Brady. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: what I loved is that he was just so wide open.
Speaker 1: He I mean, just do you talk about a guy
Speaker 1: being a burner? Just unreal. I don't know what that is. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So but that's funny because they were like he says
Speaker 1: that that's usually a runoff route, which I'd take to
Speaker 1: mean it's drawing a defender or horrifully more than one
Speaker 1: deep to try to get one of these other guys open.
Speaker 1: And so he doesn't really expect the ball to come
Speaker 1: to him. I mean, he's gonna run a round as
Speaker 1: it is, right, and he was given credit for running
Speaker 1: it well but he um, but he said, oh, you're fine.
Speaker 1: I kicked a wire, he said. Um. You know, he's
Speaker 1: being asked multiple questions about it, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: you are the burner. He goes it was blown coverage.
Speaker 1: He'd be as fast as you want, but you're not
Speaker 1: open by twenty yards. I mean it was it was
Speaker 1: like everyone like, oh my gosh, you like waiting for
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah yeah, and I um. They said that
Speaker 1: Bruce said that they doubled. It looked like they doubled,
Speaker 1: and he hadn't looked at the film yet that this
Speaker 1: isn't true, but they doubled. Both Mike and Chris and
Speaker 1: just left. They were like him whatever, yeah, yeah, whatever
Speaker 1: you think of the other guy, you don't leave him.
Speaker 1: You don't let him run thirty years. So that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. That was great. But that and and what
Speaker 1: I the other thing I liked is being down what
Speaker 1: was it to seven or what was it to seven?
Speaker 1: Three to seven? Uh? And then um coming back that
Speaker 1: was good coming back and coming back quickly, scoring two
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the third quarter, getting yourself really squared. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on right there. I don't like to um. I
Speaker 1: I don't like I've said this before. I don't like
Speaker 1: the second guess play calls because that's easy to do
Speaker 1: any time play doesn't work all that was a terrible goal.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's it's a good call and bad execution. But
Speaker 1: I wish we had something that worked a little better
Speaker 1: up for that two point. Oh. I was just about
Speaker 1: to say, if you get that two point conversion, it's
Speaker 1: a different game. It's a tie game. When they kicked
Speaker 1: the field long and then um, presumably you're not trying
Speaker 1: so hard to push it that down the field so
Speaker 1: fast like Tom was. And and maybe he doesn't throw
Speaker 1: that interception because all you need at that point is
Speaker 1: the field goal? Sure, well you needed was the field
Speaker 1: goal anyways, but oh that's true. Yeah, but but I
Speaker 1: think it gets played differently simply because it's a you
Speaker 1: don't lose if you don't see you're right, and maybe
Speaker 1: you're not as amped up and maybe you're not as
Speaker 1: getting those penalties. So I I don't know, but yes,
Speaker 1: I thought the two point conversion was I think that
Speaker 1: kind of might have been as they kind of really
Speaker 1: deflated them, because is if you you know, you scored, okay,
Speaker 1: and they need two point conversion, now you you're just
Speaker 1: implying your will on. Yeah, it would have been a
Speaker 1: different field for sure, and it could have gone differently,
Speaker 1: but it didn't happen. But hey, you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's the scoreboard, dotter. What else
Speaker 1: one thing you gotta do. I I don't like the
Speaker 1: Saints anymore. I mean that's obvious when you when you
Speaker 1: get beaten and beaten in games that just don't feel good,
Speaker 1: you know. And they're the new Eagles. Yeah so, and
Speaker 1: we did overcome them to win the Supper Bowl last year,
Speaker 1: but now we have to do it again. But you
Speaker 1: have to admit that they're a well coached team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when we were walking out, I was getting some of
Speaker 1: that uh um, you know, fans like we beat you,
Speaker 1: we beat you, and you know, I just can't help
Speaker 1: myself sometimes. And my thought was I all I said was, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are awesome in the regular season. And looked
Speaker 1: at me and he goes, oh, yeah, right, I mean
Speaker 1: it like you guys, You're right, you guys are awesome
Speaker 1: in the regular season. Go ahead, keep winning those games
Speaker 1: because if if listen, if all I gotta do is
Speaker 1: win one, that's kinda like back when you couldn't win
Speaker 1: in California and the only yeah, yeah, yeah, And if
Speaker 1: you're gonna win, you want to see those things until
Speaker 1: they're not. Yea. But they are a well coached team,
Speaker 1: very well. Look at the first interception c J. Gardner Johnson,
Speaker 1: who's speaking of people that sometimes taunting penalt so but
Speaker 1: they managed to. I'm sure that he was talking plenty
Speaker 1: of crap but didn't do in a way that drew
Speaker 1: a taunting penalty. Um. He his interception, he was covering
Speaker 1: Tyler Johnson who was going deep and he fell off
Speaker 1: that route. That's why he was there, That's why he
Speaker 1: was unexpected by the quarterback that a player would be there.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not supposed to be there. He's supposed
Speaker 1: to be following Tyler Johnson. But he made a very
Speaker 1: good play. Somehow I figured out where Tom is gonna
Speaker 1: throw with it and fell off his guy and was
Speaker 1: the unexpected defender there. I think that's the result of
Speaker 1: good coaching at good coaching, and someone was watching film.
Speaker 1: And the Buccaneers are also very well coached. Um So,
Speaker 1: but there's not wrong with admitting that the Saints, as
Speaker 1: much as I'm tired of them and I hate their stadium,
Speaker 1: are very well coached. Yeah, it's a good and that
Speaker 1: shows also when a you're winning with very different types
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, because James Winston isn't anything like Drew Brees
Speaker 1: and Trey Trevor Simeon north Western Grad isn't anything like
Speaker 1: James Winston. I um and they still continue to do well. Sure,
Speaker 1: I agree with be a the Rams game hurt more
Speaker 1: because they beat the Bucks. The Rams beat the Bucks,
Speaker 1: and this particular game against the Saints, not taking anything
Speaker 1: away from how well the Saints played. The Bucks beat
Speaker 1: the Bucks, or at the very least the Bucks believe
Speaker 1: they beat the Saints can feel like they want Bucks
Speaker 1: believe they beat but you look at that, and so
Speaker 1: maybe it is the coaching to get underneath their skins
Speaker 1: to be able to create those penalties. Maybe I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that was It was interesting because, uh,
Speaker 1: when when the game was over with, we were discussing
Speaker 1: it and Dave, Dave Moore made a comment and he said,
Speaker 1: you know how good this team is when you complain
Speaker 1: like that and still almost wind and the Superdome and
Speaker 1: I know, I don't feel bad right now. Of course
Speaker 1: it was funny too because we were talking about how everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, when you lose a game like that, everybody
Speaker 1: you know, the world's following, everybody's this and that. And
Speaker 1: we were on the plane flying back, um, and we
Speaker 1: were looking at I showed Dave at a tweet someone
Speaker 1: was complaining about us losing, and um, Dave looks at
Speaker 1: me and he goes, I've never been six and two.
Speaker 1: He goes, I played thirteen years with the Bucks and
Speaker 1: I never was six and two. He goes, I got
Speaker 1: I got to five and two, but seven for example, yeah,
Speaker 1: but then never six severs and and so he he
Speaker 1: was like because he left one year before the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl season when we went six and two, and he's
Speaker 1: he was like you just um, um, you know, people
Speaker 1: forget you. And that's the problem now, is that at
Speaker 1: one time you go, when your team's not playing well,
Speaker 1: you go, oh, just be competitive. So then you become competitive.
Speaker 1: Just get to eight and eight, then just get to
Speaker 1: or just get to the playoffs. Well, you win a
Speaker 1: super Bowl, so you know what the next thing is,
Speaker 1: you better win another super Bowl or your And but
Speaker 1: that's fandom and I love it. That's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 1: And also I'm glad that the expectations sure. So I
Speaker 1: mean it's sometimes it does suck to read a tweet,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, especially if it's worded in a
Speaker 1: certain way. Um, But then you realize, well, it's good
Speaker 1: that should expect this team to be better and that
Speaker 1: that we got to a point where that is the
Speaker 1: result you should be expecting. And and personally, I I
Speaker 1: was more irritated over the penalties than than the loss.
Speaker 1: So I'm surprised to hear you say that. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you described the Rams game are two losses. The Rams
Speaker 1: game as the Rams beating us and the Saints game
Speaker 1: as the Bucks beating themselves correct and first saying the
Speaker 1: Rams won't hurt more. I would think one where you
Speaker 1: beat yourself hurt well more. I I should, I should
Speaker 1: say that was the wrong term hurt death. I think
Speaker 1: it hurt. Are you hurting over there, Jeff, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm still irritated by it. I am still irritated. But
Speaker 1: but the Rams game is it was a bigger loss
Speaker 1: except for the fact that there is no one. Saints
Speaker 1: is a division game, so when you're trying to beat
Speaker 1: the Saints to win the division, it's a more important game.
Speaker 1: But hopefully this is coming in at the right time.
Speaker 1: It's a bye week, it's time to reflect, it's time
Speaker 1: to retool, it's time to think about where you're at.
Speaker 1: And you're not at the halfway point because there's nine
Speaker 1: games left. Um, it's good. It is the half of
Speaker 1: point of the season, though, because this is the ninth
Speaker 1: week of eighteen weeks season, so you would know that
Speaker 1: in a way mathematically, that's the one good thing about
Speaker 1: this new seventeen. But schedule the only good thing, but
Speaker 1: the one thing that everybody has to realize. You got
Speaker 1: to you got a long stretch. Now you've got nine
Speaker 1: games that's a lot before you even get to the playoffs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but hopefully there'll be some reinforcements coming back. I think
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis and Sean Murphy, Bunting and Scotty Miller at
Speaker 1: some point Antonio Brown, hopefully Rob Gronkowski. So apparently while
Speaker 1: recovering from the ribs, he developed a back issue that
Speaker 1: was what was keeping him out, and then he tries
Speaker 1: to play and has back spasms that can't play. But
Speaker 1: you would think two weeks will help. Would would you
Speaker 1: know more about back injuries than I do? But um,
Speaker 1: back spasm seems something you can overcome. The one thing
Speaker 1: is if you've never had back problems, which you kind
Speaker 1: of look at people with back problems and shake your head, well,
Speaker 1: I know, but but you know, you get up and
Speaker 1: it having back issues and having uh you know, surgery
Speaker 1: to correct those back issues. I mean a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of things. Um, you will do anything for the pain
Speaker 1: to go away. And I mean if I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember I was having such bad
Speaker 1: like when we were beyond beyond the team plane, I
Speaker 1: couldn't sit down until we're just about the land because
Speaker 1: it hurts so bad. And so you know, you function
Speaker 1: and you live with the pain. But I can't play football,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh I remember I went fishing feeling kind
Speaker 1: of bad, and I remember saying, today, I go, how
Speaker 1: did you play like this? How did you know? You know?
Speaker 1: You pop along and three weeks later you're you're on
Speaker 1: the you're on the field. But make sure you understand that.
Speaker 1: I have always known how a back injury has got
Speaker 1: to mess with absolutely everything. You're trying to do, every
Speaker 1: single thing you want to do. You can't put your
Speaker 1: socks on. Yeah, like you you I there were times
Speaker 1: that I would lay on the floor to get my
Speaker 1: sock on. I mean, you know, I've had and and like, uh,
Speaker 1: when the knees bad, that sucks, and it can be
Speaker 1: hard to move around. But I'm sitting down. I'm fine.
Speaker 1: I can sleep most of the time. Back thing to me,
Speaker 1: my mom had a neck issue at one time, and
Speaker 1: so it's like neck and upper back. And when she
Speaker 1: had surgery, it freaking changed her life. There was so
Speaker 1: much she could do that you couldn't do before. What
Speaker 1: happens is you make compensations for and so and then
Speaker 1: you're now, all of a sudden, you're free yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're yeah, it is. Uh. But but the fact that
Speaker 1: he played and then tried to play, I I understand that,
Speaker 1: so he wanted to play. Well, yeah, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: I think what happens Um in that particular instance. You know,
Speaker 1: you want to be part of it, and you think
Speaker 1: you're ready to go, and so you try. But you know,
Speaker 1: maybe perhaps they should have held him out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's the way Bruce Fields. Now you um, you
Speaker 1: mentioned that it's the bye weekend, time for guys to
Speaker 1: rest and recharge. Uh what about you? What are you're
Speaker 1: by week plans? Uh? I don't think. I think I'm
Speaker 1: playing golf, not how my back feels good. I don't
Speaker 1: care about golf. Not for you. Yeah, just kind of uh,
Speaker 1: not really doing anything. Just I mean working for a
Speaker 1: few days. You know, I may take a couple of
Speaker 1: days off. You take them some time off and then
Speaker 1: do the weekend. So probably may have four days. I
Speaker 1: like the bye week. Um. Talking to Stephen lynch Um
Speaker 1: who does a lot of videos on the website, like
Speaker 1: in the Current, and he and I were both agreeing
Speaker 1: that it's a good week to get to work on
Speaker 1: some big things that are hard to do. When everything
Speaker 1: else is going on. So it's a really good week.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to act like a workhol day. No, no,
Speaker 1: I've probably not come in on Friday or then. But um,
Speaker 1: but it's a nice week to to get some concentrated
Speaker 1: work on some things that you you know that and
Speaker 1: make it easier for you in the weeks too. Well,
Speaker 1: the big projects that you have going down the road,
Speaker 1: you're not you're not already thinking about the next game
Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. You get it, you get
Speaker 1: a breathing because next week you're back into the game.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's like you think, wow, you
Speaker 1: got two weeks, we've or your game, but you don't.
Speaker 1: You you basically have this week and okay today, so
Speaker 1: it's almost over. You know, I've been wrapping up everything
Speaker 1: and so have you over the Saints game. So by
Speaker 1: the time you get to Thursday you would start or
Speaker 1: Wednesday you start thinking of your next game. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a few Yeah, I've just you know, it's um, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been on the road a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. So that's I'm I'm happy just
Speaker 1: to be able to chill so that's that's my game.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless I really suck at golf, and you know,
Speaker 1: then I think, why did I do this? You're doing
Speaker 1: that on Saturday? No, No, that's gonna be Thursday. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go do that Thursday. I think Ennsbrook, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know much about golf, but that's a nice place,
Speaker 1: right Yea. I'm gonna get together with the Communication department
Speaker 1: where little a little and we know how you love golf.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not upset about I would have said, no,
Speaker 1: I know why you didn't even come into play. You
Speaker 1: didn't even come in. Hey, I was just having the
Speaker 1: conversation off. You know, I'm thinking about playing golf. Scott
Speaker 1: Smith did not come up and steam we're looking for forth.
Speaker 1: Who could it be? I was just happy to be
Speaker 1: included on the dinner plans in New Orleans because if
Speaker 1: there is one good thing, where did you guys go?
Speaker 1: We went to a place called which I think is
Speaker 1: maybe French for pig or something or pork. It was good.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was Cajun food. There was some
Speaker 1: we had some really good oyster, a rabbit dish. That
Speaker 1: was That was Saturday night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was good.
Speaker 1: Oh someone did say they had rabbit. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: Turner and I both think, Okay, it good. It was
Speaker 1: very good. What did it taste like? Well, the rabbit
Speaker 1: wasn't to me, wasn't even the star of the dish.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of other stuff going on, and
Speaker 1: there was dumplings, and I'm sure everybody's just dying to
Speaker 1: here about what I ate for dinner on No, Well
Speaker 1: it's you. Listen. There's one thing about New Orleans. You
Speaker 1: want great food, all types of great food. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you. I mean restaurant. I walked to the restaurant,
Speaker 1: which is about a mile away, past so many rest
Speaker 1: fronts that I was also interested, including Emeralds, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure I could not have gotten. I looked in there
Speaker 1: and could see that I was severely underdressed. It was
Speaker 1: it was hard to find any place to unless you did,
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're being proactive, and the people that
Speaker 1: you went with are very proactive, so they made reservations. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I was walking, I got to the restaurant we
Speaker 1: were eating at, and I wanted to make a joke
Speaker 1: because on the walk there, I passed a place called
Speaker 1: mothers that oh I've eaten there. Getting there that said
Speaker 1: the side out side said world's best baked ham. No fine,
Speaker 1: if it's true, but baked ham isn't something that's gonna
Speaker 1: draw me, right. So I get there and I make
Speaker 1: that joke, and Christo, I wasn't beating there. Sometime it's awesome,
Speaker 1: it's great, and he started telling me it's great. So
Speaker 1: you can't even make a joke about a bad restaurant
Speaker 1: because they don't have bad you no mothers. Usually there's
Speaker 1: a line around there, around the block. There wasn't this time.
Speaker 1: If I had known that, I would have maybe made
Speaker 1: a detour and gone, yeah, because two dinners. One more
Speaker 1: thing about the Superdome before we're done with this. By
Speaker 1: the way, we should have set top. I thought you're
Speaker 1: gonna I thought when you were talking about great meals,
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to talk about the halftime.
Speaker 1: It is so upsetting that that used to be one
Speaker 1: of the good things about about going to the Superdome
Speaker 1: was there was good food. It was like Cajun food.
Speaker 1: It was like what you expected. It wasn't like low quality.
Speaker 1: Was good stuff. And and now before the game they
Speaker 1: have hamburgers, hot dogs, and they did have red beans
Speaker 1: of rice which was pretty good, and Hammerson and hot
Speaker 1: dogs which ran out immediately, and prepared sandwiches. And I
Speaker 1: know that probably a lot of this has to do
Speaker 1: with COVID, but and then at halftime it was cookies
Speaker 1: and chips, like, come on, this was the one thing
Speaker 1: you were good at before we we um. I have
Speaker 1: to say we did veteran move. I mean I picked
Speaker 1: up on it. You brought your own. No, what had
Speaker 1: happened was Dave came back. He had a hamburger. He
Speaker 1: had a hamburger, and then he left it and he
Speaker 1: came back with a box and I said, what is that?
Speaker 1: He goes, it's a veggie rap for halftime. I went,
Speaker 1: oh that, you know what, that sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 1: So I walked down and I got one and and
Speaker 1: not even knowing that at halftime there was going to
Speaker 1: be zero food, you know what, I had that idea.
Speaker 1: But at halftime, at halftime, I'm like, I should have
Speaker 1: grabbed a freaking sandwich. Yeah, but again I didn't know,
Speaker 1: like you assume every restaurant, every uh press box press
Speaker 1: box should go to in the NFL has a separate layout,
Speaker 1: but at half time. But you know how you know
Speaker 1: how bad this sounds. Okay, you're ready, you're talking about
Speaker 1: the pregame meal, and then an hour and ten minutes later,
Speaker 1: an hour and a half, it's more than that because
Speaker 1: you don't need you don't eat at kickoff, all right,
Speaker 1: So I didn't need anything all day? Okay, so okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: no I didn't either, and you walked so yeah, well,
Speaker 1: um yeah, but that is funny is is you know
Speaker 1: a couple of hours later. I mean, if you're well,
Speaker 1: I guess if you eat breakfast at nine and I
Speaker 1: didn't eat. Yeah, So what I was saying was, um,
Speaker 1: this is the bye week, and so I should have
Speaker 1: said it up top. But I mean, obviously if you
Speaker 1: clicked on it, you know we're not having a player.
Speaker 1: I guess because they're all gone. There's nobody here. They
Speaker 1: had to come in for treatment yesterday, and then it's
Speaker 1: Tuesday through Sunday they're off, so they're really I mean,
Speaker 1: we presumably could have had somebody zoom in, but we're
Speaker 1: not gonna bother them during their minds now and and
Speaker 1: before people go after a game like that, should you
Speaker 1: be practicing those naysayers. According to the um NFL p
Speaker 1: A laws, you have to have four days off. Two
Speaker 1: of them have to be Saturday and Sunday. So basically
Speaker 1: b A is giving them a little extra like two
Speaker 1: extra days. Yeah, but they're back in on Monday and
Speaker 1: they bonus day and they can get a bonus, you
Speaker 1: get an extra game, you actually get more practice than usual.
Speaker 1: But also letting them rest is also very important at
Speaker 1: this stage of the game. Yeah, very much so. So,
Speaker 1: So anyways, we wanted a guest. We will be doing
Speaker 1: your fan questions and we don't We don't even have
Speaker 1: to break. I'm not saying you now. Can you give
Speaker 1: me a minute, I'm not done yet. We can talk
Speaker 1: a little longer because we don't have a guess. And well,
Speaker 1: when I said at the top, you're in for an
Speaker 1: hour of buckstock, we usually go more like an hour
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, yeah, what you're at about forty
Speaker 1: two minutes? Really? Yeah, So it's just such a pleasure
Speaker 1: to talk, you know, it's so much fun. Yes, I
Speaker 1: just had to say last week when we were talking
Speaker 1: about how anything could happen in the NFL and things
Speaker 1: surprise you all the time, and last week it was,
Speaker 1: who's good. They got beat Baltimore got by Cincinnati, so
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, in Cincinnati's for real? Now what happens?
Speaker 1: They get beat by the Jets, which destroyed a lot
Speaker 1: of suicide pools or survivor pools, r E T s, Jets, Jets,
Speaker 1: just the Jets. But the Jets with their rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: injured and out why starting a guy he named Mike White. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't say to the US thing. Didn't he go
Speaker 1: to USF? I know he went to finished up at
Speaker 1: like some small school, I guess some con you know.
Speaker 1: I saw his postgame speech. I liked it. He gave
Speaker 1: a speech to the locker room. They gave him the
Speaker 1: game ball, of course, and he said, um, this belongs
Speaker 1: to everybody basically, and then he said, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for having trust in me.
Speaker 1: So the guy, which I thought was pretty cool, the
Speaker 1: guy had never well. I mean, it's a good point
Speaker 1: because the Jets traded Donald and they drafted Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: made him the start it right away. But this isn't
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden everybody realized, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they don't have any kind of backup you've ever heard of.
Speaker 1: That was a storyline right from the beginning. It was like,
Speaker 1: if the Jets, if Zack Wilson doesn't go well or
Speaker 1: gets hurt, who do they have? And it was Mike
Speaker 1: White and somebody else I can't remember that. Almost nobody
Speaker 1: had ever even heard of. He never made a start
Speaker 1: before Jeff his first career start has been found around
Speaker 1: the leak for about four years. He's been with Dallas Um.
Speaker 1: He lost out the the battle to Cooper Rush to
Speaker 1: back up Dak Prescott and now Cooper Rush also started
Speaker 1: in one. But Mike White goes in there, throws for
Speaker 1: four or five yards and what four touchdowns or something,
Speaker 1: and they beat the Bengals, who were the hottest thing
Speaker 1: in the a f C going into the weekend, and
Speaker 1: Mike White was amazing. You can't write to see the
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks all one. I know. It was a big day. Now.
Speaker 1: What happens too, though, is now do you have tape
Speaker 1: on the guy? You get his tendencies, you know what's
Speaker 1: going on. I don't know. Let's good for the Jets though,
Speaker 1: because Taylor Heineke last year was awesome in the playoff
Speaker 1: game against US, and so therefore he had a chance
Speaker 1: to win the job. Didn't fits beat him out for him,
Speaker 1: and then Fitz got hurt. Heineke and I know we're
Speaker 1: playing them next, so I'm not doing any He struggled.
Speaker 1: He he may be great against us again, and he
Speaker 1: was great last year, but he's mostly struggled. You know,
Speaker 1: um uh. The guy with a mustache from Jacksonville that
Speaker 1: they traded to Philly, Minshew, Carden Minshe he had a
Speaker 1: couple of really impressive starts and then and then he
Speaker 1: was Gardner Minshew. I mean mostly a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys have a good game, but it doesn't really tell
Speaker 1: you what they're death. They're going to be great for
Speaker 1: their career. I'm rooting for this Mike White guy. I
Speaker 1: hope this wasn't a flute, but it could end up
Speaker 1: being a but it could be. What you know in
Speaker 1: New York, it's going to be a quarterback controversy for sure.
Speaker 1: If he wins another game. Well, if he it's two
Speaker 1: in a row and they want to bring particularly since
Speaker 1: their head coach did not say, oh, we're definitely going
Speaker 1: back to Zach. When he's back, he's like anything could happened. Well,
Speaker 1: he's trying to light a fire. Plus I mean they're
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. I mean it was there was a
Speaker 1: second win there, like two and six or two seven
Speaker 1: or two and six. I guess the camp seven after
Speaker 1: eight weeks November and two and six, not six and
Speaker 1: two like the buccaneersmber tying our best start ever and
Speaker 1: believe happy hard to believe it's November already. This season
Speaker 1: is rocketing by like a oh, what one last thing?
Speaker 1: I have to say that the Saints fans really got
Speaker 1: into the Halloween spirit. I know, but it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty good. It was pretty good. I didn't
Speaker 1: even finish because I said I had one more thing
Speaker 1: to say about the Superdome, and then you got me
Speaker 1: talking about the stupid meals and then I'm calling bs
Speaker 1: on their noise meter. I don't believe that for a
Speaker 1: freaking minute. But you know that's not real. So if
Speaker 1: you don't know, First of all, they claimed that they
Speaker 1: said an indoor record at some point by hitting a
Speaker 1: hundred thirty point four decibels. Fine, probably true. Whatever, So
Speaker 1: they have a noise meter that they used to fire
Speaker 1: the crowd up, and it's supposedly you see the numbers
Speaker 1: going up and down and it's eighty nine now of
Speaker 1: all the two. Okay, it was at one point like
Speaker 1: a hundred twenty three or something, and which is close
Speaker 1: to their supposed records. It wasn't that crazy loud. I've
Speaker 1: heard it louder than that. I think that whole noise
Speaker 1: meter is just bull. It's not at all measuring the noise.
Speaker 1: They're just running it up and down. They they may
Speaker 1: have a noise meter, but it's probably not attached to
Speaker 1: the video board. Okay, yeah, it's a graphic. But but
Speaker 1: they may have a noise meter. Yeah, they got They've
Speaker 1: got a freaking djack. We're spending it up. Hey, we
Speaker 1: have a we have a noise meter at I never
Speaker 1: noticed that. Do we do that? Yeah? Yeah? Uh? Dan
Speaker 1: Roy has actually an actual one a graphic now we
Speaker 1: do have. We do have that. It's the Remember when
Speaker 1: you were not allowed to do that by the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you everybody always did it, and then they outlawed it,
Speaker 1: and then a couple of years ago like yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: you can do that, and you can only play music
Speaker 1: at a certain point and it's supposed to end. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's still true. Is well, it depends on where you're
Speaker 1: at I always like to say, I remember when the
Speaker 1: Falcons got busted for piping in noise that it amazed
Speaker 1: me that it was the Falcons Vikings. Yeah, you're in
Speaker 1: the Hubert h Humphrey metroid. Well, well, when you're standing
Speaker 1: on the sideline and you turn around on their speakers
Speaker 1: behind you and you're here, you're hearing, you're going, oh,
Speaker 1: I wonder and yeah, they're getting a little extra help here.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the mike by that and the horn and
Speaker 1: the guy on the motorcycle or the the Viking guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have yeah, but now it's the We're not that annoying,
Speaker 1: are we? Captain fears not annoying to other people? And
Speaker 1: the I'll tell you what gets everybody, And it made
Speaker 1: me laugh. Cannons, Yeah, and it and uh the Saints
Speaker 1: radio engineer he's been coming to Raymond game standing for
Speaker 1: like fourteen years, okay, and he said to me, hey,
Speaker 1: can like on the timing sheet, can we like, hey
Speaker 1: when it's like, say, when it's gonna happen and then
Speaker 1: like give uh sixty second warning that cannons are gonna
Speaker 1: be fired. A lot of people have always been surprised,
Speaker 1: we don't give a warning. No, But I will say this,
Speaker 1: I have been going to that stadium since and the
Speaker 1: cannons still get What Jef is talking about is the
Speaker 1: pregame test shore they can test the cannons, And what
Speaker 1: you want to be careful of is don't have your
Speaker 1: head underneath the counter when it goes off. Probably don't
Speaker 1: want to be taking a sip of coffee. You know,
Speaker 1: it gets you every time. But the best part is
Speaker 1: when someone new comes and you know, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel glance, yeah, yeah, you kind of get
Speaker 1: a feel for okay, here it comes. Yeah yeah, so okay.
Speaker 1: So for visiting fans, our cannons could be our things. Ye. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're when you're a visiting team, you're
Speaker 1: annoyed by things that the home cross the whole point.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why you do though. But the Saints
Speaker 1: dumb songs. I hate them. I used to hate the
Speaker 1: freaking horn at the Metrodome, but I would love it
Speaker 1: if I was a Vikings fans because it's kind of cool. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's and that's just it. We're supposed to hate
Speaker 1: it and they embrace it and they love it, and
Speaker 1: that's the whole point. That's that's the sat I will
Speaker 1: say the Saints fans absolutely embrace everything about what their feet.
Speaker 1: They embrace all of it. They love all the things.
Speaker 1: Like another thing that I think is dumb is there
Speaker 1: pregame before the game they do this us versus them thing.
Speaker 1: I think that's very clever. It was clever like once Jeff.
Speaker 1: So if anybody doesn't know, they'll go like us and
Speaker 1: they'll they'll have a category like food, which obviously New
Speaker 1: Orleans is going to be most cities, and they'll show
Speaker 1: show the awesome food like a to fa. And then
Speaker 1: I don't know what they showed for the books, but
Speaker 1: they showed something great for them and something not so
Speaker 1: great in the bay, which you it easily turn around.
Speaker 1: But if I were Saints fan, I probably think that
Speaker 1: was really funny. Well, it's kind of like a fast fift.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like our kiss cam, you know we do.
Speaker 1: I don't like the kiss cam, I know. But then
Speaker 1: they showed the poor lad they didn't do it this
Speaker 1: last time. Do you know why we were wondering about
Speaker 1: that they can't get a shot. No, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because they's clearly shot before. Um. Yeah, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what developed there. You're being very cageous. I'm just I
Speaker 1: don't care enough. I'm just saying that, Okay, things change
Speaker 1: when it when it annoys people. Okay, well, um, I
Speaker 1: think I get the point now. Um, before we get
Speaker 1: to the questions, I one more thing to talk about,
Speaker 1: and that is that Mike Evans scored a touchdown, as
Speaker 1: we talked about before. And I know where you're going
Speaker 1: with this. Okay, you go ahead, and he is went
Speaker 1: away from dying. Mike Hall stopped one away from and
Speaker 1: to from breaking the Bucks all time touchdown record. I've
Speaker 1: been tracking this for a while because I think people
Speaker 1: are not making a big enough a deal about this.
Speaker 1: Breaking your franchise's touchdown record is a huge deal in
Speaker 1: a very short I didn't talk about this last week
Speaker 1: now because I was suggesting, hoping that Mike all stuck
Speaker 1: can maybe be there, and you said he would be there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was thinking that, Um, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: good chance he'll tie Mike Ian in Washington. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm the roof from the scores many touchdows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go break the right away. Well, here's
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Though, and this is we we had
Speaker 1: this discussion we being uh communications, I mean, we were
Speaker 1: talking about this and we're like, okay, we gotta tell
Speaker 1: everybody that the next touchdown Mike gets, he ties. So
Speaker 1: we got to talk to Mike about, you know, keeping
Speaker 1: the ball. Yes, yes, because even in New Orleans, Mike
Speaker 1: gave his ball. Well, seventy two will be the bigger one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and Mike just gives him away, which is he's
Speaker 1: a generous fella. I like it. So he's got set
Speaker 1: and now sixty nine catches and one where he fell
Speaker 1: on teammates fumble in the ins and up. The funny
Speaker 1: thing is if he broken in Washington, it would be
Speaker 1: kind of interesting because his first big game of his
Speaker 1: career was in Washington in two thousand fourteen when he
Speaker 1: was a rookie, had a huge game. We beat Washington.
Speaker 1: That was the year win two and fourteen, so it
Speaker 1: was one of our two wins. He had an enormous game.
Speaker 1: You're looking for that highlight. So um, I did a
Speaker 1: little research to write a story in preparation for him
Speaker 1: breaking the record, and I looked at every team's touchdown leader,
Speaker 1: which is easy to find because it's in the record
Speaker 1: in fact book what we used to call the white book. Um,
Speaker 1: so I could find every team's lead touchdown leader, and
Speaker 1: I found that there is only Well Mike isn't there yet,
Speaker 1: But once Mike gets to be the Bucks touchdown leader,
Speaker 1: which is clearly happening this year, he will be one
Speaker 1: of only two active players in the NFL who are
Speaker 1: the touchdown leaders for a franchise, Really only two active
Speaker 1: players fit. Larry Fitzgerald was, yeah, he retired. Well, he
Speaker 1: hasn't retired, he's just not playing. Yeah, well okay, wow,
Speaker 1: he didn't claim retire. Man, he's doing radio with Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Larry Fisher, old first ballot Hall of Famer. But I
Speaker 1: think his career is over, So he's he's So it's
Speaker 1: just Mike when he gets into one other guy, you
Speaker 1: would you like to hazard a guest or do you
Speaker 1: want me to just go ahead and one other guy?
Speaker 1: I'll give you a hint, unless you would rather guess first,
Speaker 1: give me a hint. He is a leading touchdown scorer
Speaker 1: for a team, but he is no longer on that team.
Speaker 1: Who so someone who? Do you want to know her
Speaker 1: in it? Yeah? We've said his name already in this podcast,
Speaker 1: we have who That's a pretty good hint, Jeff, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many. It's not Mike White, No, it's not Von Miller,
Speaker 1: it's not Jameis Winston, it's not Teddy Bridgewater. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's Brob Gronkowski. He's the Patriots all time touchdowns leader.
Speaker 1: That was so obvious. I know, I know, but obvious.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the obvious ones are usually Look, I didn't even
Speaker 1: he didn't even. I'm thinking, Okay, it was somebody who
Speaker 1: is really really good and is no longer on their team.
Speaker 1: Who would that be? Yeah? But then the second I hope,
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast, I hope you struggled
Speaker 1: as much as I did, because you know they were
Speaker 1: trying to well, I'm just gonna say that's probably what's happening.
Speaker 1: Probably the majority of the listeners are going, yeah, way
Speaker 1: to go. If you If I didn't know when you
Speaker 1: asked me that question, I think I've had a tough
Speaker 1: time with it. But the reason that I'm saying that
Speaker 1: Mike Evans breaking this record is a huge deal that
Speaker 1: needs we need to make a huge deal about is
Speaker 1: that it doesn't happen very often, and it hasn't happened
Speaker 1: very often. There are only of all thirty two, well,
Speaker 1: there's actually thirty three because Andre Reid and Thorne Thomas
Speaker 1: are tied for the Bills lead. Of all these thirty
Speaker 1: three players who are touchdown leaders for their franchises, only
Speaker 1: eight of the him even played in this past decade.
Speaker 1: Most of these records, like the Giants record is Frank
Speaker 1: Gifford from the sixties, the Frank Yawn. No, I remember that,
Speaker 1: But wasn't he also a field goal kicker? I don't
Speaker 1: remember that, But that's not part of this equation. Just
Speaker 1: talking about touchdowns. Phil Phillies is um Harold Carmichael. I
Speaker 1: couldn't see that finished in the eighties obviously. You know
Speaker 1: who San Francisco's is, I'd say Jerry right, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: the all time NFL touchdown later and uh his is
Speaker 1: his last year was too oh no, his last year
Speaker 1: was San Franz was two thousand. Um. You know Washington's
Speaker 1: is Charlie Taylor from the seventies. Yeah, you probably can
Speaker 1: guess who Chicago's is, Um Gail Stairs. Well, there was
Speaker 1: a good guest girl. Stairs career was too short. I
Speaker 1: think he might have set a record for touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the season. Certainly as a rookie he had a bazillion touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but it's obviously Walter Baton. Oh well, yeah, you wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: I was begging why receiver that that was Green Bays
Speaker 1: is all the way from a guy who played from
Speaker 1: forty five and you've heard the name. But I won't
Speaker 1: expect you to guess that Don Hudson. He's in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Cleveland's Jim Brown and Finish in the sixties.
Speaker 1: I mean, really like, this does not. The last time
Speaker 1: it happened that a guy broke his team's franchise touchdown
Speaker 1: record was Gronkowski in two thousand and sixteen, and the
Speaker 1: last time before that was Larry Fitzgerald, and like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, two thousand and eleven or something. Because it
Speaker 1: is a big deal. It's probably the biggest broken record
Speaker 1: since I've joined this team. Wow, I would say it's
Speaker 1: the biggest record I've seen fall now. Of course record
Speaker 1: before all James Wilder, Okay, well, so all start ended
Speaker 1: up breaking that around two thousand one, so I guess
Speaker 1: I have seen this before. But then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: put set the bar so high because the previous record
Speaker 1: was forty six. He beat up and said all the
Speaker 1: way up to seventy one. So a really really special
Speaker 1: player who had also signed extra contracts with the Bucks
Speaker 1: had to come along. How was how many touchdowns did
Speaker 1: Walter pet They will tell you. I'm just curious. I'm
Speaker 1: just curious to see where that falls in line with
Speaker 1: you know, I would have thought, well back then too,
Speaker 1: it was that was that was the Bears offense. That
Speaker 1: was exact it. Now I do acknowledge that seventy one
Speaker 1: is not one of the highest numbers sure to be
Speaker 1: a touchdown nyer, but Mike's gonna set that bar presuming
Speaker 1: he sticks with the Buccaneers for a good number of years.
Speaker 1: He's not done at seventy two. He'll get it up there,
Speaker 1: probably do a hundred, and that would be one of
Speaker 1: the better ones. Like right now, the Bucks record of
Speaker 1: seventy one, uh, the only ones that are less Atlanta
Speaker 1: Roddy White with sixty three UM and that's it. That's
Speaker 1: oh in Baltimore and probably Houston Baltimore seven. Houston was
Speaker 1: sixty eight. But both those teams are relatively new speaking,
Speaker 1: they haven't as many years, so that's not surprising. Um,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of teams in the seventy
Speaker 1: to eighty range, Cincinnati and Buffalo and um well, Jackson
Speaker 1: Wills fairly, Kansas City's three, Miami's eighty two, New England
Speaker 1: is eighty, Tennessee is seventy four. That's Eddie George. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's not an embarrassing record by any stretch. And
Speaker 1: Mike's gonna make it one of the better ones. But
Speaker 1: the biggest ones are obviously Jerry Rice at seven, um
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith at one and uh Mark Harrison and you
Speaker 1: and you gotta you gotta remember too, is they played
Speaker 1: on some really good teams for a long time. Who's
Speaker 1: Jerry right? Well, he was one of the main reasons
Speaker 1: they were. Well yeah, but but you know when you
Speaker 1: look at my you know how many years Mike was
Speaker 1: with us, you know, if you look at how many
Speaker 1: winning years there were, weren't his No, no, right, he
Speaker 1: had to wait a long he had to wait a
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, and that was an offense that you know,
Speaker 1: if you scored seventeen points, yeah we're gonna win. Well,
Speaker 1: we're talking about all stutt Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought to talking about Evans because he's done a
Speaker 1: pretty no. No, yes, no, I'm talking about Mike. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you kind of need to clarify if we're talking about
Speaker 1: I know in my head, I knew who I was
Speaker 1: talking about, but I always know what I'm talking about
Speaker 1: in my head, So to all the other people, A
Speaker 1: lot of people tames, we argue, but it's okay. So
Speaker 1: I just thought this was really cool. It is I, Um,
Speaker 1: you want you want to? I don't want to go
Speaker 1: through the whole list, but do you want me to
Speaker 1: throw a couple of teams at you to see if
Speaker 1: you can guess who they're all time? Sure? Go ahead
Speaker 1: and the big, big ahead, Pittsburgh, Franko Harris, Very good,
Speaker 1: very good, very good. I was hoping you would get
Speaker 1: that one. Um, I have to pick one. I didn't
Speaker 1: already say, Um, you probably wouldn't get that one. Who
Speaker 1: is it? Kansas City? I will say that I did
Speaker 1: guess this one before we looking it up. You were there, yeah,
Speaker 1: but not when this happened. Um, when I was there
Speaker 1: was Christian Nikoyaka and very word. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of who was in Neil Smith? Who was who is
Speaker 1: big in Kansas? Who is big? In in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Let Dawson is the only guy. Well, he's quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know what he is. In case people
Speaker 1: out there are confused, quarterbacks don't get credit for scoring
Speaker 1: town They don't. They don't get they get credit for
Speaker 1: throwing a passing touch ship, but they don't get the points.
Speaker 1: Who who It's the Priest Holmes. Okay, it was probably
Speaker 1: gonna be either Priest Homes or the um and Larry Larry.
Speaker 1: They had another really good running back after Priest Holmes,
Speaker 1: Larry Johnson. What about what's one you? Oh, you gotta
Speaker 1: get this one hands down? Don't say that, you know,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you'll get this one Detroit And I'd have
Speaker 1: to say Barry Sandery Sanders. After I said that, I realized, oh, well,
Speaker 1: it could have been Calvin Johnson. But it's definitely Barry Sanders,
Speaker 1: the great, great Barry Sanders, who is always my answer
Speaker 1: to if you could have if you were starting a
Speaker 1: team and you were allowed to have one running back
Speaker 1: in his prime, I'm taking Barry Sanders there. I loved
Speaker 1: watching Barry Sanders. Of the players that I've always cherished
Speaker 1: that I got to see live was Peyton Manning a
Speaker 1: not Peyton Walter Payton, Okay, and then Barry Sandys played
Speaker 1: and the fact that on top of his game he
Speaker 1: walked away, Yeah, he kind of did it, and he
Speaker 1: kind of you know, yeah, I mean that's good for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it robbed us of some great years kind of like
Speaker 1: Jim Brown he walked away. But well, Kett Johnson too.
Speaker 1: But in fairness, at that time when Jim Brown left,
Speaker 1: he was getting old for for being a football player,
Speaker 1: you know, but not really. He was only in his
Speaker 1: early thirties, I believe. Yeah, he got into the movies,
Speaker 1: movies move Yeah. So yeah, And you know what I
Speaker 1: always used to say, too, is that if I used
Speaker 1: to say this, I don't anymore, is that if I
Speaker 1: could have one quarterback, the guy that I wanted was
Speaker 1: Brett Farve. I don't feel that way anymore. I used
Speaker 1: to say that, and I knew that I did. You
Speaker 1: want now Tom Brady. It's Tom Brady, obviously Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: And I would say that even if he hadn't come
Speaker 1: to the bucket. But I never even really thought that
Speaker 1: Brett Farve was the greatest quarterback of all time. But
Speaker 1: we played them all those years, and he was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was always the stuff that he did and it
Speaker 1: always hurt us, but but then you just appreciated him
Speaker 1: and it was a fun. It was a gun slingery.
Speaker 1: I think he's the all time interceptions leader. I mean,
Speaker 1: but they want a ship toun, Sorry they did. They
Speaker 1: won a lot of games with him. Wow, mahawn lynch
Speaker 1: Inner Marshal. Right now, I think there's two weeks in
Speaker 1: a row that I've dropped the S bomb and I
Speaker 1: had never done it before, So maybe that means we
Speaker 1: should move on. I've done expecting. Got some good questions
Speaker 1: this week, okay, including one. Remember I think I said
Speaker 1: last week I was a bit surprised that our our
Speaker 1: guy from Brazil, Alexander, hadn't sent the question that week,
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, um he was on holiday, was he?
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but he clearly noticed it too.
Speaker 1: So he says, hoy salty ones, I hope this finds
Speaker 1: you both well. It does, thank you. I hope you're
Speaker 1: well as also. I'm trying not to overthink this, but
Speaker 1: I didn't send you guys a question last week and
Speaker 1: we lost. Well you know, well it's a bye week,
Speaker 1: so this doesn't mean well, you do know that on
Speaker 1: Monday Nights, the Manning brothers do Monday Night Past their
Speaker 1: Manning cast. Every player that has gone on has lost
Speaker 1: the next week. The team is like when Gronk was on,
Speaker 1: the next week, we lost. Tom Brady was on, the
Speaker 1: next week, we lost. It's like seven in a row.
Speaker 1: But there isn't a curse. It's it's like the s
Speaker 1: I curse. So maybe he what about Marston Lynch, he
Speaker 1: didn't lose. Uh, well, he kind of did because he lost. No,
Speaker 1: because he dropped the F bombs matter, But it could.
Speaker 1: Demandings don't have don't they don't. They have a brother,
Speaker 1: Cooper Manning, who never played in the NFL. They can't
Speaker 1: bring him on and have him be the guy that
Speaker 1: hits the button for the delay button. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: could be his job. They might be on delay now.
Speaker 1: Apparently there's a new Manning coming along, Arch Manning high
Speaker 1: school superstar. Sure. Yeah, So if you're if you're a
Speaker 1: fan of the Mannings, that's great. If you're one of
Speaker 1: these people talking about our band, you're talking about our
Speaker 1: buddy Tony, right, I knew you, I do as soon
Speaker 1: as you said that. I knew it right away. I
Speaker 1: knew who you were talking about. You know what would
Speaker 1: make Tony change his mind is if arch Manning went
Speaker 1: to Mississippi State. Oh yeah, then a question. He'd either
Speaker 1: have to change his mind or just be torn in
Speaker 1: half emotionally. He would say that he skipped the generation.
Speaker 1: So it's a good I'm gonna have to tell him
Speaker 1: that he talked about it in his podcast, So we'll listen. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's up there in Atlanta. We're axe, I
Speaker 1: do I do were Alex's He's busy, he's giving us advice.
Speaker 1: I'm telling him where to go and do things. So
Speaker 1: what are the things you usually do during a bye week?
Speaker 1: Says Alexander. We know coaches and players go back to
Speaker 1: film study. Well, the coaches do, the players get arrest,
Speaker 1: their tendencies and so on. But is there anything you
Speaker 1: guys used to assign during this point of the season,
Speaker 1: used to assign. Well, whatever he's asking is what we do?
Speaker 1: Sure we kind of already covered that a little bit. Um,
Speaker 1: we finish up the week, try to take I try
Speaker 1: to get a little bit ahead on the big project
Speaker 1: next week. Anything that I can do that will make
Speaker 1: next week easier. Um, And you know, we'd find time too.
Speaker 1: I think my wife and I decided we're going to
Speaker 1: take one of these nights and snot go on the
Speaker 1: couch and watch a whole bunch of Ted Lasso. I
Speaker 1: just got HBO Mexico, so I've only seen the first
Speaker 1: two episodes I've I've not seen that show, but I
Speaker 1: heard it's just really terrific. Did you see Squid Game?
Speaker 1: You should watch that. I finished it fishing the hotel
Speaker 1: and I'm usually behind on technology, but I love that
Speaker 1: you can just go to a hotel, go to the
Speaker 1: Netflix channel, put in your information, and then the Netflix.
Speaker 1: You used to have to be like prepared anyway. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we kind of answer that there's nothing special generally,
Speaker 1: is the is the answer? Yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 1: try to, you know, take a few days off, go
Speaker 1: somewhere some you know, we have a number of people,
Speaker 1: you know, they go home, they go visit family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good time to try to get it in.
Speaker 1: I was sorry, go ahead, I was going to go
Speaker 1: to beautiful Gainesville, but that guy canceled. Alex Georgia Tech
Speaker 1: Club baseball team. You're going to play a tournament in
Speaker 1: Florida and Florida canceled. Uh so that stinks because you
Speaker 1: could have got your son. You didn't care about the game.
Speaker 1: I got you. I wanted to see him pitch, but
Speaker 1: I also wanted to see him sure that I have
Speaker 1: to I have to wait till things. Yeah, basically, basically
Speaker 1: this week is finish up last week. Look at anything
Speaker 1: that you want to get a head on. And then
Speaker 1: it's just another reason for me to hate the Gators.
Speaker 1: And I should not say that on this podcast because
Speaker 1: a lot of Bucks fans are also Gator fans. And yeah,
Speaker 1: and more power to you. But when I got to Florida,
Speaker 1: I had no allegiance and then I realized that this
Speaker 1: state is so football mad and most people root for
Speaker 1: either the Seminoles, the Gators, or the Hurricanes. Hurricanes were
Speaker 1: hugely awesome at that time. Well, it's the only place
Speaker 1: that you know where um where they say, um um, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's kind of a you know, he's not a bad guy.
Speaker 1: He's a Gator, you know where they kind of like
Speaker 1: maybe that he's a null. He's you know, hey, he's
Speaker 1: a null. He's he's For some reason, I grabbed towards
Speaker 1: the Seminoles when I got here and so that meant
Speaker 1: you didn't like the Gators, right, And then there's so
Speaker 1: many Gator fans that it became fun to just kind
Speaker 1: of performatively act like the Gate hate the Gators, well
Speaker 1: to a point where it kind of like both the
Speaker 1: guys I coach literally with for Gators fans always wearing
Speaker 1: all the Gators stuff. But there's so many of them
Speaker 1: are everywhere. Well what's interesting too is a lot of
Speaker 1: people are fans of the universities and they never even
Speaker 1: went to those schools. But you have to remember too that,
Speaker 1: you know, the state of Florida at one time I
Speaker 1: had the Miami Dolphins, and so you know, like in
Speaker 1: your southern which is also why a lot of people
Speaker 1: around here are Braves fans right before the Rais came
Speaker 1: the team. And so um, yeah, I mean there's I
Speaker 1: get it. Anyway, it's fun to root for something. I
Speaker 1: don't really know. I hate the Gators. I just like
Speaker 1: to you, like you just like that watch you can't
Speaker 1: There's nothing there's nothing better than being on the airplane
Speaker 1: and watching Turner twist in his seat because his Gators
Speaker 1: are getting killed. You know, So Okay, that's fun a right,
Speaker 1: So that was his question. The next one from Mark
Speaker 1: in Mason, Arizona. And I'm pretty sure that we've had
Speaker 1: a question from him before because I remember you asking
Speaker 1: me if I've ever been and I said, I worked
Speaker 1: a job there. Mrs Smith and Ryan greetings, Well that
Speaker 1: wasn't the outcome we were hoping for in New Orleans?
Speaker 1: Is it me? Or this bye week falling at just
Speaker 1: the right time? He has, no question, Let's get to
Speaker 1: that one. I would say, yes, we were talking about
Speaker 1: this at lunch. So generally you hope for later bys
Speaker 1: when the schedule comes out because you have a bigger
Speaker 1: chance that more guys are injured, and the best thing
Speaker 1: about the bye week is getting guys healthier, not having
Speaker 1: to play a game, getting so guys don't miss as
Speaker 1: many games. Uh. Last year we had the latest bye
Speaker 1: week I've ever had at week thirteen, and by the
Speaker 1: time I got there, I remember Bruce arians saying it
Speaker 1: was we needed it earlier. So the point being, you
Speaker 1: can't really know, like probably a week four or five
Speaker 1: by would have been good for us this year because
Speaker 1: of the early injuries to the secondary rights a long stretch.
Speaker 1: So I guess I would say that right in the
Speaker 1: middle of season is probably the best thing you could
Speaker 1: hope for, because you don't know if it early is good,
Speaker 1: if late is good. So right in the middle is
Speaker 1: pretty good, and you probably gonna have some injured guys
Speaker 1: to heal up. So yeah, I think it felt good.
Speaker 1: I think it fell out a great time, just simply
Speaker 1: because I think we'll be able to get some people back,
Speaker 1: and you've got a nine week run before playoffs, so
Speaker 1: hopefully the same thing happens that happened after the BI
Speaker 1: week last year. Well, the Bucks never lost again. Hard
Speaker 1: to repeat that, I'm just saying, but on they are
Speaker 1: going to try onto. My real question, which is based
Speaker 1: on the thought experiment envisioning universe or the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: thirty seven Bucks could play the Super Bowl fifty five Bucks.
Speaker 1: Who would prevail in this mythical matchup? More interestingly, how
Speaker 1: would you approach determining who would win such a game. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the NFL's rules and effective tactics This guy's a really
Speaker 1: good writer have changed significantly throughout the years. Can you
Speaker 1: think of a cohesive, quantitative approach that could be applied
Speaker 1: to this or would it simply devolved into yet another
Speaker 1: rehashed Muhammad Ali versus Mike Tyson barroom debate. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: a very well ring question there is. I would say
Speaker 1: he's right, it's just just go you And I think
Speaker 1: he actually pinpoints why sure he rules are gonna play
Speaker 1: by it was if you play by today's rules. Uh
Speaker 1: the Bucks, Yeah, they probably win. Yes, because the thirties
Speaker 1: two seven Bucks we have the best defense, one of
Speaker 1: the best defenses. That you can't play like John Lynch
Speaker 1: played anymore. You'd be tossed out of the league. It
Speaker 1: do wonder, though, I do wonder because I think of
Speaker 1: the ninety nine NFC Championship game, Okay in St. Louis.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a perfect example of shutting down the
Speaker 1: Bucks defense. Awesome defense goes in and greatest show on turf. Yes,
Speaker 1: so the equivalent of what we have right now. I
Speaker 1: think our offense right now is probably as good as
Speaker 1: that one. However, now they did not win nick game.
Speaker 1: They didn't win the game, but they shut them down.
Speaker 1: They they had a chance to win the game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I would be willing to bet uh my son's
Speaker 1: college fund that, if you were to ask, I'm not
Speaker 1: really willing to bet that. By the way, if you're
Speaker 1: asked Ryan Day or Warren or Derek, they would be
Speaker 1: certain that they would win that game, no question, And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would be just probably think they could
Speaker 1: beat anybody. I would be disappointed if they went, yeah,
Speaker 1: they would have beaten us. I'm gonna ask Rod Day
Speaker 1: next time. Are you gonna do that that? He was
Speaker 1: cheez he was in here this morning. You could ask
Speaker 1: him because yeah, he does. The film which I mentioned
Speaker 1: is my favorite video. Will well if I remember, if
Speaker 1: I can remember, I'll ask him. I just think not
Speaker 1: just the rules, but just the way the game is played,
Speaker 1: the talent of the offensive players, the things that have
Speaker 1: been brought up, the types of offenses and offensive strategies
Speaker 1: that have come up from the college ranks and are
Speaker 1: now being utilized. How many r p O s did
Speaker 1: you see in two thousand and two? Yeah you didn't, Um,
Speaker 1: I just always you know that was That's a really
Speaker 1: good question. I just and I think I think you're right.
Speaker 1: You can choosing his second example, It's just something that
Speaker 1: you could debate forever, like Doo Duer is more credit
Speaker 1: for our Super Bowl? John Gruden or Tony Dungey and
Speaker 1: Bucks fans are never go next time. The next time
Speaker 1: we have a Ring of Honor ceremony and all the
Speaker 1: alum are there, I'm going to bring it up because
Speaker 1: that's always a good discussion. I just for one thing,
Speaker 1: do you bet against Tom Brady? I mean, Brad Johnson
Speaker 1: is and was awesome, but Tom Brady's Tom Brady. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've met against Tom Brady. I don't know about that. Plus,
Speaker 1: this defense has the capability of playing much like the
Speaker 1: two thou defense, whereas I don't think as great as
Speaker 1: Brad was offense, I think our offensive line now is
Speaker 1: significantly better. Although the offensive line played great in the players,
Speaker 1: they were kind of thought of as a team's Achilles
Speaker 1: Hill before the playoffs. In two Michael Pittman was a
Speaker 1: great pass catching running back and it ran for a
Speaker 1: tony yards in the Super Bowl. Keishaw Johnson very good,
Speaker 1: Keena McCardell, Mike All, Joe Jr. Vicious. But I do
Speaker 1: think our offense now is better than that offense, and
Speaker 1: statistically it's not even close. They were like middle of
Speaker 1: the pack in two THO. We're like one of the
Speaker 1: best two or three offices in the league and have
Speaker 1: been for the last year. But yeah, but and the
Speaker 1: way that the Super Bowl fifty defense played in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl was akin to how well the two thousan
Speaker 1: Bucks defense played the whole year. So if they could
Speaker 1: catch that lightning in a bottle, and if it's thirty
Speaker 1: seven against fifty five and the defense is playing like
Speaker 1: they did in the last sear Bowl, I don't think
Speaker 1: the thirty seven team has a chance now. But that's
Speaker 1: one of those that you could argue that goes against
Speaker 1: my heart died because I I just think because it
Speaker 1: was the first one special, I will definitely cherish the
Speaker 1: first one more. And that team, well, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: went so many years of getting beat up and that
Speaker 1: defense now it's still considered one of the best defenses
Speaker 1: of all time for good reasons. It was, and we
Speaker 1: were there for that. The Bucks offense right now is
Speaker 1: the best we've ever had, and it's phenomenal, but it's
Speaker 1: also other teams in the league are doing that well.
Speaker 1: Buffalo's offense is as good as ours, Dallas is probably
Speaker 1: is close. The Rams office with mad Stuffers, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of really good They don't have Tom Brady, but
Speaker 1: they do have great players. So alright, alright, Okay, another
Speaker 1: one dear s Dogs. This comes from Phil Schuadron, who
Speaker 1: is a long time listener and a longer time Bucks fan.
Speaker 1: I do believe he lives in California because we've that
Speaker 1: conversation before Halloween comes from All Hollow's Eve, which is
Speaker 1: the night before All Saints Day. I did know that?
Speaker 1: Did you know that? Did the schedule makers know this?
Speaker 1: They gave us a road trip to New Orleans the
Speaker 1: night before the biggest day of the year for Saints.
Speaker 1: All Saints Day is also the day I hate All
Speaker 1: the Saints because that is every day. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who the Bucks coach is or who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: We just played lousy into all in the regular season.
Speaker 1: Can you explain it? Happy holiday season? Lousey is a
Speaker 1: bit strong. We played dumb, maybe with the penalties and
Speaker 1: fundamentally we have issues, but I mean we did also
Speaker 1: have four touchdown passes in over four yards. You know,
Speaker 1: lousy is a bit strong, But there have been lousy
Speaker 1: games there, that's for sure. I would say I would
Speaker 1: say it would be undisciplined football we played or or
Speaker 1: they played two emotional right, Yes, and that's probably the
Speaker 1: answers to the question. I would also say that the
Speaker 1: Saints match up very well with us. They have Marshall
Speaker 1: landinmore from Mike Evans. They have a very good defensive
Speaker 1: front that you know, kind of neutralizes a little bit
Speaker 1: some of the advantages we have with our offensive front
Speaker 1: against some teams. So it was probably gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to run the ball. And they were only averaging less
Speaker 1: than seventeen points a game being scored on, so we
Speaker 1: surpassed that by right. Yeah, So I mean that is
Speaker 1: the It was, by the way, just the game in
Speaker 1: NFL history to end in a score of thirty six seven.
Speaker 1: The first one was the Jets Miami game in you
Speaker 1: did do your research. I did that for a different
Speaker 1: thing under there. It's funny, He says that because Gene
Speaker 1: brought Dad up about the schedule makers, did they know,
Speaker 1: just like they knew last year? Just okay, So every
Speaker 1: year we try to predict who our first game will be. Uh,
Speaker 1: we we didn't. I don't even think we bothered in
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty because we all knew it was
Speaker 1: gonna be as soon as we got Tom Brady. It
Speaker 1: was gonna be Brady versus Breeds. It was gonna be
Speaker 1: New Orleans. You could have been here, New Orleans or
Speaker 1: there New Orleans, but we knew that was going to
Speaker 1: be this one. Yeah, so they did that on purpose.
Speaker 1: And they did this on purpose, of course they did. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put it in New Orleans on Halloween. It'll be a
Speaker 1: huge spectacle and Tom Brady will be there. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: had had if if if we were going to play
Speaker 1: New England, if New England was gonna play us in Tampa,
Speaker 1: that would have been our first game. We were playing
Speaker 1: New England because we had to play at home, So
Speaker 1: we were playing at home, correct, Although I have heard
Speaker 1: other people argue that, yeah, just having the kickoff game
Speaker 1: with the defending champions is already a big enough draw,
Speaker 1: so why waste what's going to be another big draw
Speaker 1: of the Patriots. But you can put that on a
Speaker 1: different week. But I mean, the Dallas Cowboys whenever they
Speaker 1: play as a big draw, So why would you. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's why when we did this exercise this year, I
Speaker 1: predicted Buffalo. I did too. It's funny you said that
Speaker 1: I did too, because because I wanted an NFC team
Speaker 1: and an a FC team and they were in we
Speaker 1: couldn't play Kansas City like the year after Carol, WHOA,
Speaker 1: that's you're still good? Stop kicking the wire. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: the year after you know, it sounds weird in my ear.
Speaker 1: You would never make it on the air with a
Speaker 1: producer in your headset. I haven't had to do that
Speaker 1: very often, and I don't know if i'd be good
Speaker 1: or not. I'm gonna mess with you next time. You're
Speaker 1: just gonna end up with a bad show, just hurting yourself. Stop.
Speaker 1: Don't stop, Scott. Now, you may even forget what I
Speaker 1: was talking about. Um, you were talking, by the way,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that because when we're doing a pregame and
Speaker 1: halftime shows, I'm standing next to Casey and she's got
Speaker 1: the producers in her ear and she has to be
Speaker 1: listening to them while trying to have a conversation with me,
Speaker 1: And sometimes she has to listen to them and it's
Speaker 1: hard to keep up with what I'm saying, and so
Speaker 1: she has to transition in that difficult situation, and she
Speaker 1: does a great job of it. But um, Buffalo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they were we couldn't play Kansas City. Like when
Speaker 1: Carolina and Denver had the Super Bowl, they were playing
Speaker 1: each other the next year, So it was an obvious
Speaker 1: in Denver, so it was an obvious first choice. Kan's
Speaker 1: City is not on our schedule. Next best thing is
Speaker 1: the team Kansas City beating in the NFC Championship, who
Speaker 1: everybody thinks it's gonna be a prime contender, and who
Speaker 1: has an exciting new MVP candidate and Josh Allen. It
Speaker 1: all made sense to me that that would be the
Speaker 1: first game. Well, I just thought it because it was
Speaker 1: the first game of the NFL and you would have
Speaker 1: an NFC team and an a FC team, so you're
Speaker 1: representing the NFL of the season open and have two
Speaker 1: m VP candidates, and it would be a game people
Speaker 1: would want to watch. But Nope, they went with Dallas
Speaker 1: because it was good because Cowboys. So I don't like
Speaker 1: living in this world, by the way, where the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are a contender. Again, Yeah, I do like the fact
Speaker 1: that I predicted it. So I looked Martin saying, I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys were gonna be really good this year,
Speaker 1: but I don't want the Cowboys to. Well, we'll see
Speaker 1: how they do in the second half. Hey, dogs, this
Speaker 1: is the last question. I got four of them. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good, right, But we've already done three it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a long It's good. I hope we cut that
Speaker 1: one off a little short on the Saints thing, but
Speaker 1: I just think they they're very well coached, They match
Speaker 1: up with us well in some very key areas, and
Speaker 1: um yeah, probably we get all the two psyched up
Speaker 1: for those games. First, I have to say this is
Speaker 1: from Sam and Nashville. He's he's emails from to the point.
Speaker 1: I think I know his last name, like me. Now,
Speaker 1: he didn't put it on this one. First, I just
Speaker 1: had to say, I really hate the Saints right there
Speaker 1: with you. They are the worst. Well they're not the worst,
Speaker 1: but plus the loss hurt even more seeing Jamis go
Speaker 1: down the way he did. That's nice. Hope heals up
Speaker 1: and it's good for next year. But I'm ready for
Speaker 1: Week fifteen already, which is when they come here. Sunday
Speaker 1: night game anyways, I keep sad Sunday night. I don't
Speaker 1: think it is, but it could be flexed. No, I
Speaker 1: think it is, or it's a Sunday I think it's
Speaker 1: a Sunday night game. Well we have we have a
Speaker 1: Monday night game against the Giants, and I believe that
Speaker 1: one is. That's huh. We've had. We had five. We
Speaker 1: had Thursday against Dallas. We had Sunday in New England.
Speaker 1: We had Thursday again in Philly. We have the Saints,
Speaker 1: I mean the Giants game on Monday. So there is
Speaker 1: one more eight. So it's a Sunday night game, Sunday
Speaker 1: night game. Well, Saints in Tampa on Sunday night didn't
Speaker 1: go well last year. It didn't know that's going to
Speaker 1: be an opportunity to race that. Yeah taste? Do you
Speaker 1: know what's kind of cool? Now? I know this is
Speaker 1: off subject because I put I've just popped up the
Speaker 1: Bucks app and I went to the schedule. Do you
Speaker 1: know when you're in a different time zone, the starting
Speaker 1: times change change? Nice? Yeah I did. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: finally got hold you're holding your phone. I got a
Speaker 1: new phone fund that I was rolling with an ocean
Speaker 1: which you still had. It still had the button at
Speaker 1: the bottom, and it takes a little bit of time
Speaker 1: to get used to it, but once you do, you'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Good hold on, we got a transaction. We
Speaker 1: do have a transaction which since this will not be
Speaker 1: up until tomorrow, um, we can go ahead and they'll
Speaker 1: be like breaking news. Right, this doesn't go up till tomorrow.
Speaker 1: This is a great news, Jeff all Right, Scottie Miller
Speaker 1: and Sean Murphy Bunning are returning to practice, and it's
Speaker 1: extremely interesting to me, extremely interesting that they did it
Speaker 1: today because we're not going to practice. So you get
Speaker 1: a three week window. You get a three week window
Speaker 1: when your guys and I are and you you designate
Speaker 1: them returning to practice three weeks, twenty one days they
Speaker 1: can practice and don't count against the roster before you
Speaker 1: have to make a decision. If you thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna take three weeks for them to get back, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't would now know, you would do it next Monday, right,
Speaker 1: Because you're not activating for them for any practice or
Speaker 1: game this week. That tells me these guys are relatively close.
Speaker 1: It's exciting news. Sean coming back is big and with
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown kind of a little uncertain about him, Scottie
Speaker 1: back would be nice. Nice. Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: great news, and it's breaking right, it'st not breaking back.
Speaker 1: By the time you're listening to this, you've already but
Speaker 1: we're explaining a little bit more what it means. Well,
Speaker 1: you're also learning how we are. You know, we're in
Speaker 1: one part of the building. This things started happening, and uh,
Speaker 1: that wasn't an email to the masses because I looked
Speaker 1: at my phone and I didn't see No. I get
Speaker 1: the transaction. You get the transaction. This this alerts us
Speaker 1: to this is happening, and NPR gets ready with their
Speaker 1: release and I get ready and when they tell us,
Speaker 1: we can go with it, and then we shoot it. Yea.
Speaker 1: So it's four three right now, which means, by the way,
Speaker 1: they've been going at this for an hour and twenty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the trade deadline is over with the trade deadline
Speaker 1: is over, so we got to get back to our desk.
Speaker 1: And one thing nice things about doing this did we
Speaker 1: finish his question? No? But let me say this. One
Speaker 1: of the nice things about doing this podcast on the Byeway,
Speaker 1: which I initially was a bit skeptical that we should
Speaker 1: but then change my mind you did, is that there's
Speaker 1: no real pressure right now. Like usually we're doing this
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday afternoon and we go like an hour
Speaker 1: and twenty and I'm like, I really got to get
Speaker 1: back to my desk and to work on this or
Speaker 1: that it's kind of children. Basically, you're just killing the afternoon.
Speaker 1: Right now, I got something to work on because we
Speaker 1: have a transaction. You didn't stroll into work until after two.
Speaker 1: But it's OK, honestly, you joke. But I didn't come
Speaker 1: in till ten today. Don't tell my boss until ten ten.
Speaker 1: I didn't even see it ten. I just took my
Speaker 1: time coming in today. Well you know that, you know,
Speaker 1: back to the bye week and whatnot, kind of that's
Speaker 1: what it is. If you do come in, you're coming
Speaker 1: in later on. I think coming in for an hour
Speaker 1: or so, or I think there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the building who are going to take two or
Speaker 1: three days off totally approved by yeah, Superor whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: probably not going to, but I won't necessarily come in
Speaker 1: at any I will say this, We are encouraged take
Speaker 1: time off. We are encouraged to, Hey, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a long st wretch, whether you go out of town
Speaker 1: or whatever, you need to take a few days just
Speaker 1: to just and preferably make sure it's Saturday and Sunday,
Speaker 1: and then do a Monday. That give yourself three days
Speaker 1: or Friday Friday, because Monday is the beginning of a
Speaker 1: new Yeah, but a lot of people won't be coming
Speaker 1: back on Monday, Okay, I will I would say that
Speaker 1: even coming in probably Monday through Thursday and working in
Speaker 1: this relaxed atmosphere and not caring if you don't come
Speaker 1: into ten, it's just as good to me as taking
Speaker 1: a day off as far as I'm concerned. Well, if
Speaker 1: you're sitting at home, you know, if you sometimes sending
Speaker 1: him home, I might have to do stuff. Well, that's true,
Speaker 1: but sometimes when you're at home, you think about those
Speaker 1: big projects that you have and you have I think
Speaker 1: about them all the time. Yeah, I don't do them,
Speaker 1: but I do think I got some more yardwork needing
Speaker 1: to be done in the backyard that I don't have
Speaker 1: any and Alex is no longer there my lawn. I
Speaker 1: have to pay a neighborhood kid now because my lawnmower
Speaker 1: is in Georgia Tech. Okay, so you're right. We haven't
Speaker 1: got to his question, was it. Anyways? I keep hearing
Speaker 1: different names brought up during the m v P race
Speaker 1: with Derrick Ny Henry getting hurt, and by the way,
Speaker 1: I'd like to take a moment here to sob for
Speaker 1: a few minutes because he he's on my best fantasy
Speaker 1: football team. And he's the reason why I'm in first place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I watched. I watched Will one of the dude. I
Speaker 1: watched their one of their games. I think it was
Speaker 1: against Buffalo that I watched, and I don't remember who
Speaker 1: he He just was phenomenal. He doesn't even He's just
Speaker 1: huge and fast and it and it's a shame broken
Speaker 1: foot somebody like that. So it's a shame, but it's
Speaker 1: not also not terribly surprising because the workloads he's running.
Speaker 1: He's running the amount of times that the Bucks used
Speaker 1: to run James Wilder and that was a different area
Speaker 1: to get Okay, So with Derrick Henry getting hurt Marie
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals losing Jackson and Ravens getting throttled by
Speaker 1: the Bengals, it seems the race is even out a bit.
Speaker 1: What are the odds? Brady becomes the first Buck to
Speaker 1: win the league MVP, which is true. We have had
Speaker 1: three defensive flavors of the year. I give a great performance. Oops.
Speaker 1: I feel like Brady gets the Tom Hanks effect with
Speaker 1: the Oscars, where everyone knows Tom Hanks is going to
Speaker 1: give a great performance and whenever movie he's in, so
Speaker 1: he has to be stellar to win anything nowadays, Brady
Speaker 1: would have to be especially great this year to win
Speaker 1: another m v P. Would breaking the single season passing
Speaker 1: yards and TV records be enough? If the Bucks continue
Speaker 1: to take your care of business like we should. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the podcast, Sam and Nashville. I mean, he kind
Speaker 1: of encapsulates a lot of the whole debate already. He
Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about here. Um, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what did Tom Hanks win? Do you do your
Speaker 1: little phone? Do you love playing on your phone? Check
Speaker 1: up his oscars? Did you want for Philadelphia? Right? I
Speaker 1: think that was his first one? Um? He won for Philadelphia?
Speaker 1: Do you think that was his first one? He did
Speaker 1: he win for Forrest Gump? I believe he did. You're
Speaker 1: gonna find out for sure. Though, a good example to
Speaker 1: keep it in sports, I would say the better example
Speaker 1: is Michael Jordan's because when we are all watching Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's it was pretty clear they could have named them
Speaker 1: m VP every year for like ten years in a row,
Speaker 1: but they didn't want to. So Karl Malone or Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley had a year, a great year, they would be
Speaker 1: the m v P, even though it could have probably
Speaker 1: should have just been Michael Jordan every year, right, And
Speaker 1: I do think that's the kind of a thing that
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is up against here, Like last year
Speaker 1: he didn't make the Pro Bowl, Jeff Well, he threw
Speaker 1: forty touchdowns and like yards for a team that made
Speaker 1: the playoffs and didn't make the Pro Bowl. That that
Speaker 1: is because he's Tom Brady, right, And so this is
Speaker 1: the same thing though, Yeah, the same thing. So I
Speaker 1: do think he's right. He has to it has to
Speaker 1: be extraordinary. The other problem is it's a crowded field.
Speaker 1: I think I said this last week and I got
Speaker 1: this from him. He's Okay, here's the interesting thing, real quick,
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, he's been nominated six times but only has
Speaker 1: won twice. So it was in Philadelphia Forest, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about it. So, okay, what else
Speaker 1: would he been nominated for? Um, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: he got nominated for. I was gonna I was gonna
Speaker 1: guess cast Away h Nope, the Captain Phillips one. He
Speaker 1: should have been nominated for Captain Phillips. Did you see
Speaker 1: that movie that's the one with the Pirates where he's
Speaker 1: the captain ship and is something the end of that movie,
Speaker 1: he's been through this, and you don't see this in
Speaker 1: movies very much. At the end of that movie, when
Speaker 1: it's finally over and all the stressy they've caught the
Speaker 1: pirates or whatever count I don't remember exactly, and he's
Speaker 1: out of danger and he saved everybody, and the stress,
Speaker 1: the the effects of all that stress hit him and
Speaker 1: he just like physically and emotionally collapses. I think it's
Speaker 1: some of the best acting he's ever done in his career,
Speaker 1: and they don't show that in movies. Like think of
Speaker 1: like die Hard when when um Bruce Wilson's character goes
Speaker 1: through that day and die Hard at the end of it,
Speaker 1: it's just like joking around with his cop buddy. I
Speaker 1: think the Captain phips Win was so realistic in that
Speaker 1: after this incredibly stressful day where you were in your
Speaker 1: life and other's lives were in danger all day and
Speaker 1: it ends, all that just hits you and you collapse
Speaker 1: at the end. And that's what I loved about that
Speaker 1: movie because I haven't seen that in the movie before.
Speaker 1: I thought it was brilliant and his acting was brilliant.
Speaker 1: So did he get nominated for that one? I can't tell.
Speaker 1: It's there's so much on him, you know it really
Speaker 1: no Wikipedia, I don't trust Wikipedia. Everybody says that, but
Speaker 1: it's a joke. Most of the stuff on Wikipedia is
Speaker 1: absolutely accurate. It's just it doesn't just like no one
Speaker 1: has just a straight list. It's all all right, what
Speaker 1: but anyways six times and you every one for filling
Speaker 1: and and for Forrest Gump and uh and I think
Speaker 1: he's one for UM directing UM supporting actor. What was
Speaker 1: he ever a supporting actor? I don't know. I thought
Speaker 1: I saw something. First movie I can think of his
Speaker 1: was Bachelor Party and he was the main star. What
Speaker 1: would he have been a supporting big? Was he big?
Speaker 1: Was he did it with? He was? He was the star,
Speaker 1: He was the star. The kid was the supporting actor
Speaker 1: him as a kid. Let's see, this is rivening podcasting,
Speaker 1: listening to you scroll through a phone. I know, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I apologie. I'm trying to get us. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: move on ahead. We don't need the whole Tom Hanks
Speaker 1: astand well, actually we're done, are we? But no, we're not.
Speaker 1: We need to answer this question. And I brought this
Speaker 1: up last week and I will once again good credit
Speaker 1: because I heard this on a podcast on the website
Speaker 1: The Ringer. But except for Adrian Peterson when he ran
Speaker 1: for two thousand yards and whatever year, that was pretty
Speaker 1: much every NFL m v P at the last like
Speaker 1: dozen years has been a quarterback for a team that
Speaker 1: got a first round buy in the playoffs. So another one.
Speaker 1: It's only one by now. But in other words, a
Speaker 1: quarterback for one of the best four teams in the league.
Speaker 1: And uh and that's so now, that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: So some of this, obviously I agree with him, the
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks effect, but also the Buccaneers need to win
Speaker 1: their division and be like the first or second seed,
Speaker 1: because otherwise it's gonna be the Rams with Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: or it's gonna be Arizona with Kyler Murray. Everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: want to vote for Colin Murray because it's the new thing.
Speaker 1: It's going to be Dallas with Dak Prescott, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers. And the defending m
Speaker 1: v P uh Saints probably don't apply because their quarterback
Speaker 1: probably is not gonna be the MVP. So that's five guys. Prescott, Stafford, Murray, Rogers, Brady.
Speaker 1: They're probably all gonna be worthy of an MVP Awards,
Speaker 1: but only one of them can win it. And so yes,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady a is gonna have to. Like he he's
Speaker 1: on pace for more than fifty touchdowns and for the
Speaker 1: passing yardage record. Now on pace after eight games is
Speaker 1: a little he can't really put much stock in to it,
Speaker 1: but he could conceivably break the yardage record and get
Speaker 1: more than fifty touchdowns. But he's probably also gonna need
Speaker 1: to lead the Bucks to one of the top two
Speaker 1: seeds in the NFC, or it's gonna be Stafford, or
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the guy everybody wants to vote for.
Speaker 1: And the other thing, it's Tom Brady. And he I
Speaker 1: think he said it best. It's Tom Brady. So he
Speaker 1: can't always you can't vote for him all the time.
Speaker 1: It's gotta but but at some point, if he does enough,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to ignore it. That's true.
Speaker 1: So most of the list you see nowadays start with
Speaker 1: like Kyler and Stafford and and Brady's like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: this is an n n f C a C Award,
Speaker 1: this is this is legally you also worry about Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson obviously, like you what you named all the NFC people?
Speaker 1: So that was five, Now go ahead and name. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know who's on the top of anymore because
Speaker 1: they're the standings are so muddle over there, and everybody
Speaker 1: has at least two lossestment at least three. So who's good?
Speaker 1: Josh Allen would obviously be a candidate, Lamar Jackson, Like
Speaker 1: I said, Uh, I don't think Joe Burrow just yet. Um,
Speaker 1: all depends on what he does the rest of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just lost to the Jets. Um, who else is
Speaker 1: good over there? Furg is good, but they're good despite
Speaker 1: their quarterback. They're good defensively, well they're running the ball. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Chargers, but they don't seem to be winning enough.
Speaker 1: They're like four and three. Herbert, Well, you know, well
Speaker 1: that that's the thing you have to win. You have
Speaker 1: to win to be able to now that now that
Speaker 1: um planking on his name, now the Titans running back
Speaker 1: Derek and now that Derrick Harry is her there's not
Speaker 1: a running back that's gonna be Defensive players pretty much
Speaker 1: never win it, and I can't think of one who
Speaker 1: would buck that right now now you, Aaron Donald's, everyone
Speaker 1: and nobody's playing as well as Aaron donald in in
Speaker 1: his best years. So it's gonna be one of those quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: probably the five image in the f C. Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson and I do agree that Tom Brady's
Speaker 1: gonna have a hard time winning it unless he does
Speaker 1: extraordinary things, which he certainly. Let's keep our fingers crossed,
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