WEBVTT - MVP Candidates, Breaking Down the Bye Week | Salty Dogs 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.080 What do you call two guys that were there when 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.120 this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.119 the chim he still at twenty. He said the twenty 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.240 five p thirty come aboard to yearline. We see history, 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.640 fifty forty come a thirty. Michael run, Michael run, Michael run. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.720 Such stops half a day. The fare you go in 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.720 that shotgun sense. We receivers left and here's the staff 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.120 of the glitzer has picked up. Brady Unity caught ball 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.960 and he has the record at the eleven yard line. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.880 Mike Kevins becomes the first NFL player from lead history 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.800 to record a thousand yards and board this first seventh 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.440 season to want to throw by Brady. Congratulations Mike Kevins, 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.519 who can forget again? I'm looking against the side the 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:46.960 already thirty touchdowns ham a day. Derek Brooks Spalliot player 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:51.280 in the National Football League, dress Dot Daggers in where 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.240 you gonna win the Super Bowl? There's the snap, My 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:54.840 homes running to his right and look out he may 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.720 run my home director and a sun picked up with 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.960 the fox. Are gotta be the chief. We're the champions 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.960 of the world. We still have. I'm at a thirty 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.440 three to go Devin White, but a great second season. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.919 That's it. We're Casey Box on the Super Bowl Champs. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:17.520 They can't stop the clock. We call them the Salty Dogs. Hello, 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.360 citizens have been welcomed to another hour of mostly Buccaneers 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.520 talk here on the Salty Dogs Podcast. I am Scott Smith, 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.800 I am Jeff Ryan. But when you say citizens, now, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.480 that would be a citizens of wherever you are. Well, 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.080 we know they're not all here in America as we 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.160 get emails. That's that's why they call it the Worldwide Web. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.440 Citizens of the globe. There you go, Yes, I have 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.119 of your community. We are the Salty Dogs. We are 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.000 and um We're brought to you by Beeflo Bradys. 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And we recently tried the Nashville Hot 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.880 rub and that was really good, was better than I expected. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:55.360 And then of course there is a regular hot one, 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.280 so you have three different that Nashville Hot Rubs sounds 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.160 like it was better than I expected because I like 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.280 the sauce wings more. Yeah, I like them hot. That's good. Yeah, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.639 that's good. That's right. All right, So there we go. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.120 Now we know what we're doing. Brady's moment. Yeah. Uh, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.800 we're probably a little extra salty today, not only because 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.359 the Bucks lost and they don't do that much anymore, 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.079 so we don't have anything to complain about. That's for 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.359 lots to complain about. Well, I would complain, but I 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:23.920 will start with the opposite of a complaint. I will 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.320 tell you something I'm very very happy about. It is that, 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.720 barring probably an unlikely rematch in the playoffs, we don't 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.000 have to go to that damn building again for probably 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.120 about a season. I would be so happy about that. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.480 I hope the next I hope it's week seventeen next year, 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.240 so it's like fourteen months before I have to go 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.760 back to that cursed place. Yeah, there's something about it. Well, hey, 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.200 it's been bad for us the playoffs last year, notwithstanding 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.440 was great, it's been bad first for the most part. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.120 Plus I just hate the place. Yeah, even other people 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.840 the place, even though they spent millions of dollars upgrading 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.440 it apparently, and still there's only one elevator to the 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.880 press box that fits about seven people. There's actually two 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.520 elevators to the press box, but they won't let you 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.560 use the other one because it's only for NW Orleans people. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.400 I walked, I walked down there with about four minutes 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.080 left in the game, because that's the way that that's 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.119 the way the PR guys went. Wanted to go down 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.479 to the press comments frum and the woman is cheering 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.040 like crazy for the Saints. She doesn't see me walk up, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.360 and then she walked, oh, I didn't even see you there, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.720 and she starts talking about we really have to win 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.479 the scheme, and then she looks at me goes, wait, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.760 are you with the Saint And I said, no, I'm 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:31.720 with the Bucks And she said, oh, well, then you 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.480 can't go down this elevator, so I go to the 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.320 other elevator. They hold that at two minutes for coaches, 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.560 which I understand. Elevator eight, Yeah, I understand they hold 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.200 it for coaches, but they say they hold it from 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:44.840 the two minutes. There's like four minutes left in the 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.920 game and they're already holding it, and the last two 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.720 minutes are gonna take like half an hour. So you 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.200 could go up and down a few times and you'd 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.159 still be fine with So I couldn't just just stuck 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.720 there for longer than should be. Fortunately, Karmen did a 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.680 smart thing Karmen Vitality staff writer and had made friends 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.880 with one of the workers there, which was a good 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.880 move the opposite direction. I approtected. Sure, I gotta give 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.000 her credit for that, and they let us get on 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.640 with the coaches. So were you being were you being salty? 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.240 I was a little salty. I wasn't really like saying 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.559 anything directly to him. That was grumbling quite a bit. Okay. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.640 So so plus the just the press box up there 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.960 so high and all the noise. You have to crane 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.080 your neck to see the replays on the TVs. And 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:26.800 Dave Moore had a good line. He goes, I feel 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.680 like we're watching the game from the blimp, which is 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.240 it where we're above where if you've ever seen the 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.840 super Dome, if you where where the rafters are and 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.520 the speakers are right there. Yeah, you know you're high 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.400 when your speakers are directly in front of you, and 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.840 that's that's how you know. And you can see through 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.279 the girders down. That's your high. And they play those 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.240 if there's an annoying song in the culture, it's part 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.680 of their game program. Is that it especially on that. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.040 But I gotta tell you they those fans were and 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:05.880 it's all the way from from introductions until the end 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.360 of the game. Now, when the Buccaneers were making a 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.840 bit of a comeback, it got a little quiet, but 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.000 then they came back strong. It's very strong. It also 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.200 got very subdued when Jamis got hurt, which is a shame. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.240 And we have found out, unsurprisingly having seen it happen, 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:26.440 that it's probably ending, which nobody wants. No, no, you can, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.000 you can, um, you can root against your rivals, but 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.920 you you don't root for injuries. And we all know him, 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.280 we hate to start again, and you're happy for him 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.279 in that regard, other than when they play the Bucks. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.720 But um, yeah, you know it's real shame. You know 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.320 it's funny, not ha ha funny, but a comment. Um, 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.200 after the first couple of series, we went into commercial 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.640 break and I made a comment, I said, I'm really 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.360 getting concerned because Jamie seems to be like he really 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.200 wants to run and that's a good way to get hurt. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.679 And then we came back and yes, so the crowd 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.719 was understandably subdued to that you lose your starting quarterback 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.200 to what looks like a pretty bad injury kind of 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.120 quieted down the place, and then the Bucks had the ball. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.240 It's tied at seven. Jamis is out of the game. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.360 They're on their backup quarterback who hasn't thrown a pass 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.400 in like three seasons, but he was a starter before. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.320 But I still this guy that hasn't thrown a pass. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.200 So all of the picture, you're you're sad for Jameis ball. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.800 That picture looks pretty good for the Buck. Across midfield, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.080 we got a chance to take the lead. The place 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.360 is subdued. Then two out of the next three Bucks 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.920 offensive snaps were turnovers, and that changed the whole game. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.880 Now I thought that might be it, like we may 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:38.560 not come back from this because it was just such 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.640 a drastic change, But we've got Tom Brady and he 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.360 comes back all the time, so we actually did. Then 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.160 sees the momentum back and got and had the lead, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.880 just couldn't get the defensive stop and it didn't help 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:51.920 the penalties we had him they would have been in 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.000 a fourth down at about where it would be like 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.240 a fifty something yard field goal or they go for 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.000 it on fourth down. So and we had the lead 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.240 after our field goals, we were in good spot. And 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.840 then the which penalty was that it was the downfield 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.960 hold call on Ross Cockrellers and obviously and it was 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.600 a hold. It was a hold. I didn't really see 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:15.960 the unfortunately they called it because the play wasn't near 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.520 it at all. There was nothing there. It wasn't like, oh, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.600 here comes the ball and I held him. Yeah, you 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.240 know how one of my biggest axes to grind is 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.040 um I wish that there was replay of roughing the pastor. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.600 And by the rules, both of the roughing the pastor 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.160 calls we got were legit. Ye you know, I think 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.720 that's the gill Gholston when he really did hit him late. Well, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.920 in fairness and fairness to William, I thought he just 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.360 didn't realize the pass was out. That's why, because he 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.959 kept now that that particular play, yes, you have to 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.960 call because he was late. Because he was late. However, 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.079 he didn't have his helmet on, and you have to 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.360 ask yourself why didn't he have his helmet on? And 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.360 that's because the offensive lineman had his hands the hands 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.840 to the face call and pushed the helmet off his head. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.319 But we'll just kept going. So he probably had no idea, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.559 had no idea. That's the impression I got for because, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.320 for one thing, the last player in this whole team 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.240 that would be a dirty player's wal Golston. Yeah, no, no, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.640 and he finished the play because he did not know. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.920 And the thing was there wasn't It wasn't like you 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:21.800 you could tell the play was over with. It was 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.520 just so quick. So and I I but it is 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.280 a worthwhile penalty. It is. It had to be thrown. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.880 It had to be thrown. However, I think they missed. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.800 It should have been offsetting pen off, saying that that 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.280 still would have erased of the interception. And then the 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.080 other one was hands to the face, which I usually 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.600 want to write off as an accident. I don't think 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.360 you go knowing the rules. I don't think anybody goes 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.959 back there trying to swat at the guy's face. But 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.040 I guess you just had to be more careful, would 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.079 be Bruce Arian's point, especially he when he as he says, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.120 they scout every crew, and this crew calls the most 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.080 roughing the pastor penalty, so you know you can't get 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.680 away with it. And they had talks and eatings about 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.000 that that you but I think we're talking about this 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.000 in the Hawaii, not you and I, but Chris King 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.520 and I from UH Community Communications. I want to call 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.640 them pr but now they're called pr Uh. There is 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:18.520 just something about when the Bucks go to play the Saints, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.920 it's like they get more jazz more. They make mistakes. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:24.840 Even though they talked about all week about how they 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.240 have to be in control, we're not going to do 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.520 that correct and it happens. And um that was interesting too. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.960 And um Bruce arians radio show, he made a comment 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.520 that he was most disappointed, of course the penalties and 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:41.040 the turnovers, but even more so giving up the lead 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.400 after you got the lead in the fourth corps and 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.079 part of that was because of penalties though, So I 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.200 didn't finish that thought, and you brought up Chris King. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.920 I was saying. My extra grind is, Um, the wish 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:53.719 we could review Roughing the show or his and I 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.880 agree with them completely is that every defensive holding call 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.720 is five yards and an automatic for down. And there 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.720 are just situations where it's just too punitive of a penalty. Yeah, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.079 give them the five yards and let him run another plate. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.079 But on third and sixteen the quarterbacks rolling this way, 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.320 not even looking towards the guy. Yeah, he committed a penalty, 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.439 so throw the flag. But it shouldn't be an automatic 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.920 first down. And this is not a Bucks thing. This 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.360 is just total Why why are you giving up? Why 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.840 are you giving them a first down plus five yards? 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.600 Give them the five yards and move on? Yeah, when 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.839 we're and if five yards is enough for a first time, 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.680 then they earned it. Otherwise they still get another play 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.959 in their five yards closer. It's just defensive holding, which 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.000 can you can probably call it almost every snap if 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.880 you want to. Well, yeah, so it's I agree with 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.360 Chris on that one. I wish they would change that. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:42.719 I don't think they ever will so, but but it it. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.560 You know, you just have to be more disciplined. There 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.319 was a lot of aggressive this, There was a lot, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.439 but you know, there has to be a There was 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:55.719 a taunting there was, which is easily avoidable obviously. I 0:11:55.880 --> 0:12:00.319 just the reason I just okay, the reason why is 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.440 is what are you gaining by that? What are you gaining? 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:08.400 I'll say this, there are players who are part of 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.360 their game is being very talked. They talk a lot, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.400 they talk, they talk smack, sure, And I've never been 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.000 that way. When I played much, much, much, much, much 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.960 lower level sports. I was never a trash, probably because 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:24.640 I wasn't always confident, got you. So it's just something 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.760 that's ingrained in their style of play. So and there's 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:27.960 a lot of players out there in the field. They 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.360 are drawn back and forth. So you just at some 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.040 point though, you have to realize when you're about to 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.520 take it too far. Well, you can, you can jaw 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.360 back and forth, but you can't stand over somebody. After 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.559 as soon as you do that, you're getting the flag. Now, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.679 I will say I didn't think it was being called 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.880 both ways, but it always feels that way when you're 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.840 on the wrong right. But you see the taunts because 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.880 you describe that's what players do. However, again, if you 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.079 bend over, you're gonna get the flag. You guys stand 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.240 there and talk to your other guy and go, boy, 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.960 I really whipped his button there, you know, right walk 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.439 away as you're saying, and they know that it's just 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.800 the heat of the moment. I can't get too mad, no, 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.839 but you can. You can when you're wrecking up that 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.200 many penalties. And unfortunately Devin White, who had like forty 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.839 five yards three different fifty and that and that is 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.040 you know, well, the coaches will will obviously make their callings, 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:33.920 but he's also a great player. Well, no question, um so, Jeff, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.040 there's been a shot fired in the NFC playoff race. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.000 You see the news, uh with um Miller going to 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.839 Don Miller to the to the Rams, which you have, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.000 which I find interesting because I thought the Rams were 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.719 pretty good defensively, Well, they are good, but I think 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.720 the key thing note here is what Bruce was saying 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.720 last week when he was asked about the Saints defense, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.960 and he says, it's the best eleven that we're gonna face. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.440 So he was basically saying they're good. All their everybody's good. Now, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.040 the Rams have some superstars, Aaron Donald and Jayla Ramsey 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.000 chief among them, but maybe they're not quite as strong. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.120 One to eleven and I know it's more than eleven 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.120 because you have nickelbacks, but you get the point. Sure 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:13.920 one to eleven on the field at any given time. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.040 He feels that the Saints are stronger. So the Rams 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.400 have a good defense. They definitely do, but they could 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.640 use another passwords. I mean, most teams could. So now 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.480 you got Aaron Donald in the middle, who always makes 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.640 things great. Look what happened for guys like Leonard Floyd 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.680 and um the guy that went to the Falcons this year. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.840 I can't think a name right now. They they have 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.880 disappointed numbers and they come play with Aaron donalds in 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.000 any career years and they get signed somewhere else and 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:39.600 they're back to where they were. So now you have 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.960 Aaron donald making life easy for not only Leonard Floyd 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.840 but Von Miller. I don't know if Von Miller is 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.680 seventy eight percent of him at his peak. That's a 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.920 big move. And they gave up second and third round 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.920 draft picks. But the Rams never've never had a draft 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.120 pick under their current management that they didn't want to 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.200 get rid of as soon as possible. You realize they 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.000 don't have their one, two, three, four or six round 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.800 draft picks next year. They just don't care those like, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.200 we'll use those those assets to get the guy we 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.440 want right now, as opposed to using those assets in 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.240 next spring and hope and I you know, there's you 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.920 can see both sides. They've taken it to the absolute extreme. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.040 I mean they I don't think they've made a first 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.920 round picking like five years, and they won't for like 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.240 three more years. And I think in the long run, 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.840 it's hard to do business that way, in part because 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.240 and the von Miller thing doesn't really apply because the 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.480 Broncos are paying like nine million of his nine and 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.040 f million dollar salary or something, and they and I 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.440 think he's a free agent at the end of the year. 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.880 So the Rams basically traded second thro round picks four 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.840 half a season of von Miller. But if you win 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.680 a Super Bowl out of it, then it was Yeah. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.000 But what I was gonna say is that a lot 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.400 of guys, like when you trade for Jalen Ramsey, Yeah, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.240 you get a guy that you already know is established 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.320 great player, but you also get his salary. And if 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.520 you hit on a first round draft pick, like say 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.120 the Bucks did with Devin White or Via that, you've 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.120 got four or five years of relatively controlled salary for 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.760 a really good player. It's just you won't necessarily hit. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.800 They take the shirt thing. You know, work the hour 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.440 up whoever they can, and you know, they'll just keep 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.440 building the roster through trades and lower round draft picks 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.920 and undrafted free agents and whatever. And I mean, I 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.280 agree they're a prime Super Bowl contender right now. Yeah. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.040 I saw Sean mcveigh's uh interview about it, and he 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.480 said that, um, you know, it was kind of developing 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.520 over for a week and didn't really think it would happen. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.360 It couldn't, you know. But because it became available, it 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.920 was something that they sat down and looked at and said, yeah, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.120 this is something that we should do and this is 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.160 going to help us, this is going to put us 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.440 in a better position. And now are the Brinkles gonna 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.840 keep selling it? Of course they only got what they've 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.040 got a few hours at five minutes I left, But 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.960 you immediately think saintany a quarterback teddy bridge Water was 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.880 pretty good. Right, kind of makes some sense, right, Well, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.880 you would think, right unless they unless they're really sold 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:55.000 on um, I think when Taysom Hill gets back, he 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.880 gets the job. Well yeah, well he's coming back from 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.200 concussion protocols. He's been out three games. Are you got 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.480 to be pretty soon? Yeah? But the problem there is 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:07.280 is if you you know, like anything else, um with 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.080 you know, if you're coming back from a concussion protocol, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.000 you're more prone to a concussion sooner. So it could 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.320 be something I guess they're trying to figure it and 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:20.440 figure it out partially, uh, making that even more so 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.600 is the fact that they use him in non traditional ways. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.000 So he's that's how he got hurt trying to make 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.000 a diving catch. That's how I got his concussion. So 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.080 maybe they would tone down that bit of it. And yeah, 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.199 you're right, they could stick whatever. But but what does 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.800 he do though? He runs, that's he's he's gonna run. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.520 He's gonna run. But happen What happens when you run? You? 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.720 I mean, don't design plays that where he's the Receiver's 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:48.680 my point. Yeah, um, speaking of being receivers and stuff, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.880 I thought dark trick play. Almost the receivers were open. 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:54.760 I can't believe we were going to run a trick. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.080 It was good, it was a good it was a 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.280 good defensive read though, so Leonard was gonna throw it 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.199 back to Tom. Okay, that was that would have been exciting. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.160 But then I guess he saw that's a risky pass 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.080 and then the whole play fell apart. But I'm glad 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.960 we tried something. I think that was the play that 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.480 um I want to say that was the play that 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:16.280 the Saints used against us with jamis not exactly and 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:21.040 also similar to the New England. Um, well, they had 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.439 a receiver throwing the ball and ye haven't did this one. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.080 We're throwing it back to the quarterback. When Jamie through 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.960 the touchdown against US in the playoffs, Um, I thought 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.159 that was tossed to him. It was, but it was 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.280 I believe they gave it to a receiver like tray 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.840 Kawan Smith or something like that on an end around 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:38.720 and it might been Smith that caught the past and 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:43.160 then he pitched it to James. All right, But anyway, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.720 I was fun. I was fun to watch. Yeah, I'm glad. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.159 I'd love to see it. I wish we'd do more 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:48.359 of it. I mean, you can't do them all the time, 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.119 but sprinkle them. Yeah, And that was interesting because again, uh, 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.200 during BEA's radio show, he was saying that it's something 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.480 that they have been practicing. You know, you practiced it 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.000 for like four weeks and you go, okay, we're good, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.359 We're now we can we can call it in a 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:05.359 game if the right opportunity arises. And he thought that, uh, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.480 Byron Lefferich made a great call at that time, like 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.200 this that was a perfect time to do it. I 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.000 didn't hear the show. Did He also say that Linner 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.320 made a good decision not to throw it. I didn't 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.800 elaborate that far well. In any case, As for the Rams, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:22.760 the reason we're talking about the Rams even though we 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.679 don't played in weeks ago, is that this NFC playoff picture. 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:31.840 I was writing about this yesterday. Um, okay, So the 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.120 Bucks right now after eight games or six and two, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.920