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Speaker 3: your hosts Jim Margolis, James Vegan, and Josh Nelson.
Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, welcome to a episode of the Sox Machine Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm your host of Josh Nelson and this is a
Speaker 1: special edition episode as we're just within a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks away of the twenty twenty six Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: Draft that will be held on July eleventh, part of
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball's All Star Game festivities. On that note,
Speaker 1: thanks to all of our Sox Machine supporters. We will
Speaker 1: be sending James Figan to Philadelphia to cover the All
Speaker 1: Star Game festivities for US at SOXS Machine tagalong with
Speaker 1: hopefully multiple Chicago White Sox players representing the team in
Speaker 1: the Midsummer Classic. But for this episode, with the MLB
Speaker 1: Draft combine completed, we don't see any more games, no
Speaker 1: more showcases, so we have a better understanding of what
Speaker 1: these prospects can and can't do. So we'll be previewing
Speaker 1: the upcoming MLB Draft. But also want to let you
Speaker 1: know that on July eleventh, Sox Machine will be having
Speaker 1: our own MLB Draft show that will be streaming. You
Speaker 1: could watch us or listen to us while the Mob
Speaker 1: Draft is unfolding again on Saturday, July eleventh.
Speaker 4: Now joining me to.
Speaker 1: Help review the upcoming MLB Draft is one of our
Speaker 1: best friends of the show from MLB dot Com. It's
Speaker 1: Jim Kallis and Hello, Jim, how are you?
Speaker 5: I'm doing good, Josh? I guess as we record this
Speaker 5: we are? Are we twelve days from the draft? Is
Speaker 5: that what we are? All the days? Are you excited?
Speaker 5: Number one pick?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 1: When I was going to bring this topic up with you,
Speaker 1: it's so funny and how things have changed. Like when
Speaker 1: the White Sox won the draft lottery, it seemed like
Speaker 1: my task was easy track Rock Jelowski and Landon Tomi.
Speaker 1: But Jim, we can be talking about the first place
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox having the number one overall pick, and
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things like this number one
Speaker 1: pick doesn't carry as much important to the franchise as
Speaker 1: it did back in last December.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I still think it curious the same importance.
Speaker 5: But it's funny because I do think most White Sox
Speaker 5: fans and I probably would have said the most important
Speaker 5: day in twenty twenty six for the White Sox will
Speaker 5: be July eleventh, and it's still an important day. But
Speaker 5: you know, they've hung around this long and the Al
Speaker 5: Central is not a juggernaut, and they have a shot
Speaker 5: to make the playoffs, which we don't like. I always
Speaker 5: thought they'd be respectable this year, maybe get to seventy
Speaker 5: five wins, you know, because they're bringing young talent, and
Speaker 5: then next year maybe they'd kind of make a little
Speaker 5: run at the wild card. And a lot of times,
Speaker 5: you see, I don't mean to rain a little down
Speaker 5: the parade when they like the team's a lot of
Speaker 5: young talent I think get better more quickly, more often
Speaker 5: than not than we expect. Like they all like a
Speaker 5: year ahead of time, and then they take a little
Speaker 5: step back and then they're good going forward. So I
Speaker 5: don't know if the White Sox take a little step back,
Speaker 5: but yeah, it is. It is funny, how like not
Speaker 5: only do we think of July eleven day, it matters,
Speaker 5: Just like I was joking, like surely, like can I
Speaker 5: put Rock Chilowski and Landon Tome on the White Sox
Speaker 5: top thirty back in February? Come go ahead and do that?
Speaker 5: And he laughed. But but yeah, like a has changed
Speaker 5: since they won the draft lottery six months ago.
Speaker 1: Now, last week was the MLB Draft Combine, and for
Speaker 1: podcast listeners and Sox Machine followers, you guys are aware
Speaker 1: of what the combine is. You also know that the
Speaker 1: top prospects don't participate. So this is a great opportunity
Speaker 1: for some of those high schoolers that are maybe on
Speaker 1: the radar teams in the late first round gym to
Speaker 1: get one last chance to impress, maybe some of those
Speaker 1: college hitters that we don't know exactly where to place
Speaker 1: in our top one fifty or top two hundred lists.
Speaker 1: So for this year's draft combine, how did it go
Speaker 1: in your opinion?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's interesting because the draft combine does matter,
Speaker 5: although I do think the most important aspects of draft
Speaker 5: combine for ninety nine percent of players, maybe ninety five
Speaker 5: percent of players, are the interviews with teams, although they've
Speaker 5: talked to teams in a lot of cases beforehand, but
Speaker 5: just you get to talk to upper level guys maybe
Speaker 5: more than you would and the medical exams, like the
Speaker 5: on field stuff doesn't really matter that much, like if
Speaker 5: you're till I'm out of college hitter, those guys have
Speaker 5: all played sixty games, like we've seen him play. There's
Speaker 5: there's video of every at bat of those guys on
Speaker 5: Synergy and True Media. So just because a guy goes
Speaker 5: out kinen Bogenpol, for instance, goes out and hits the
Speaker 5: alle hundred nineteen miles an hour, that's great, and I
Speaker 5: like kan Bogenpol and he's a big athlete. But he
Speaker 5: hit six home runs this year Missouri State after hitting
Speaker 5: twenty one freshmen. So it's not like all of a sudden, like, oh,
Speaker 5: he hit the one hundred nineteen miles an hour. I
Speaker 5: feel good that he's gonna hit for Power and like,
Speaker 5: I will say, the thing was interesting this year is
Speaker 5: I think more of the top high school guys participated.
Speaker 5: Not great Anderson in Jacob Lombard, but you saw Trevor Kahn,
Speaker 5: and you saw Bo Laurence, you saw toaj Mark Sean,
Speaker 5: you saw Aiden Release, you saw Cold Prosec. Cold pro
Speaker 5: Sec not only worked out, he played in the game
Speaker 5: on Monday night they play. It's more of a more
Speaker 5: of a showcase style. It's not really a game where
Speaker 5: you know, they roll innings and Titcher's face ex o
Speaker 5: her batters and it was funny. I alway was shocked
Speaker 5: he played in the game because what he told me,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, really, why'd you play in the game.
Speaker 5: He's like, I was here, why wouldn't I? So I
Speaker 5: do think with the high school guys, at least they
Speaker 5: like And I know I was trying to one agent
Speaker 5: who represents a lot of the top high school players,
Speaker 5: and he's like, these guys take VP and INFO all time.
Speaker 5: It's not going to hurt them, and they like to compete.
Speaker 5: So I don't know that that stuff mattered, But I
Speaker 5: do think from a broadcast standpoint, I do think this
Speaker 5: was the best broadcast we've had in six years on
Speaker 5: MLB Network because A you had a higher quality of players,
Speaker 5: especially in the high school side, actually participating in workouts,
Speaker 5: and B for whatever reason we had I think it
Speaker 5: feels like a patridge. We've had fifteen plus guys wired
Speaker 5: up from network, maybe more than that. This year, I
Speaker 5: think there were only nine people wired up, like from
Speaker 5: a commentating standpoint, and they focused a lot more on
Speaker 5: the players as opposed to, hey, here's Prince Fielder or hey,
Speaker 5: you's CC Sabathia's son. It was like all prospects. And
Speaker 5: in particular I enjoyed having Dano Doubt and Mike Rizzo
Speaker 5: at the desk, two longtime general managers, and Mike Rizzo
Speaker 5: was a longtime Sky director. And then I thought, if
Speaker 5: anybody watched, you had Jim Tome, Xavier Scruggs, and Mike
Speaker 5: Lowell behind the batting cage, and I thought they were
Speaker 5: great just breaking down players and grabbing players and talking
Speaker 5: to them. So I thought from a broadcast standpoint, it
Speaker 5: was the best broadcast we've done, and it was cool
Speaker 5: to see the Trevor Connons and the Bola Ronces and
Speaker 5: taj Marshawn's and all those cult process going on. It
Speaker 5: just seemed like I didn't out count it up. But
Speaker 5: I bet if you took the top ten high school
Speaker 5: hitters in the class, it felt like at least six
Speaker 5: or seven of them were working out, and that's kind
Speaker 5: of unusual.
Speaker 1: So after this combine, because there's no more college games,
Speaker 1: there's no more high school showcases for this draft.
Speaker 4: Class, it's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: So from now until draft day, it's all conversations and
Speaker 1: negotiations between teams and those players representatives if either that's
Speaker 1: family for high schoolers or now they can have agents.
Speaker 1: Do you have a better sense of the quality of
Speaker 1: this draft class after the combine gym?
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say I have a better sense because I
Speaker 5: don't really think the combine, like I said, moved the needle.
Speaker 5: Like it's not like we saw a bunch of college pictures.
Speaker 5: And even if the best college pitchers are all out there
Speaker 5: throwing twenty pitches, okay, but I mean I think, you know,
Speaker 5: a I think it's a decent draft, and I you know,
Speaker 5: even if it's like it's not like you think about
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty four and how low that draft was
Speaker 5: with college players who are gonn get to the big
Speaker 5: leagues almost overnight. It's not as strong as that, at
Speaker 5: least the top first round. But even this isn't a
Speaker 5: bad draft. But even if it were a bad draft,
Speaker 5: there's good players in every draft, Like, like Thomas skyn
Speaker 5: director is always tell you, like, even if it's not,
Speaker 5: you know, a great draft, their job is still the
Speaker 5: same to go out and find the best players they can.
Speaker 5: So I think it's a you know, I think, you know,
Speaker 5: just breaking down, like, think about it. Demographically, the high
Speaker 5: school pitchers are pretty strong. Oh that's funny because that's
Speaker 5: the demographic that scares teams the most. The high school hitters.
Speaker 5: You know, originally I was thinking they weren't that deep.
Speaker 5: It seems like more and more guys are emerging. So
Speaker 5: high school hitting crop is fine. The college hitting crop
Speaker 5: is interesting because there's a lot of depth to it.
Speaker 5: Although a lot of the guys have like a major
Speaker 5: Hickey that you know, it's hard to separate them. After
Speaker 5: the top couple guys and the college pitchers, I feel
Speaker 5: like maybe that's the weakest part, Like there's death there,
Speaker 5: but there's there's almost a major question mark. You know,
Speaker 5: once you get past Jackson, Flora, you know, whoever you're
Speaker 5: talking about, there's a major question mark. But I think
Speaker 5: it's probably I don't know. It feels like close to
Speaker 5: an average draft. And you know, nice thing for the
Speaker 5: White Sox is, you know, I think there's there's two,
Speaker 5: maybe three players who separate themselves from everybody else, and
Speaker 5: because they're picking one, they can get one of those
Speaker 5: guys and take whichever one they want.
Speaker 1: So since opening day Milwaukee, we've been seeing White Sox
Speaker 1: fans with Rock Jelawski White Sox jerseys and they have
Speaker 1: so they've been sold that this is what's going to
Speaker 1: be the number one VIC in July.
Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a moment podcast listeners.
Speaker 1: But as you can also read on Sox Machine, I
Speaker 1: updated my top one fifty this class and I made
Speaker 1: my case and why I have Grady Emerson number one
Speaker 1: over Rock Cholowski.
Speaker 5: Jim, I'm with you. I'm with you, Joe, you.
Speaker 1: Are with because I was gonna ask who is your
Speaker 1: number one prospect in this class?
Speaker 5: Yes, I would take Great Emerson for one. Now again, it's
Speaker 5: funny because like when you make a decision and the
Speaker 5: White Socks are in the same boat. But where you
Speaker 5: have guy whoever number on your last or I I
Speaker 5: said something you can only put like it's very close,
Speaker 5: but you can only pick one guy. You can't be like, well,
Speaker 5: it's fifty two percent like And I just think if
Speaker 5: you're comparing those two guys, there's a couple of things
Speaker 5: that stand out. One, if you look at the players
Speaker 5: at the same stage of their careers, which is fair comparison,
Speaker 5: Rock Cholowski could have gotten first round money out of
Speaker 5: high school if you wanted to sign, But nobody was
Speaker 5: talking about Rock Chlowski being the number one overall pick
Speaker 5: in the draft like they were Grady Emerson. And I
Speaker 5: think if you compare those guys at the same stage
Speaker 5: of their careers, I think Grey Emerson is a better
Speaker 5: hitter with maybe a little bit more impact. He's definitely
Speaker 5: quicker the probably comparable defenders. I think if you I
Speaker 5: don't know what the percentagould be, if you had thirty
Speaker 5: teams and you said who has the most upside in
Speaker 5: this draft, I think Grady Emerson would win that poll
Speaker 5: of of you know, especially if you're comparing had to
Speaker 5: head to Rock. Now that's not knock on Rock. I
Speaker 5: do think Rock has obviously three years of track record UCLA.
Speaker 5: He's probably a little bit better as a sophomore than
Speaker 5: as a junior, but he still had a good junior season.
Speaker 5: I think the floors higher because you see him hit
Speaker 5: against better competition. You've seen him like he's a really
Speaker 5: good defender. He's not. People don't rave about him like
Speaker 5: they did about Billy Carlson O the best high school
Speaker 5: shortstop I've ever seen. But like Rock rockmy bible to
Speaker 5: step in the big leagues and play close to plus
Speaker 5: defense from day one, like like you have no doubt,
Speaker 5: Like you have to project rate orson a little bit
Speaker 5: because you haven't seen him against bigger, stronger guys, hitting
Speaker 5: the ball harder and running faster. But like I think
Speaker 5: Rock is an easy sixty defender, like you, like you
Speaker 5: don't have to to worry about that. So I think
Speaker 5: it's neck and neck. I know I would air on
Speaker 5: the side of upside, and I always say it's easy.
Speaker 5: You know, same thing for you, Josh. And we do
Speaker 5: these lists, we aren't giving ten million dollars to whoever
Speaker 5: we put number one on the list, right, We're not
Speaker 5: going to lose our jobs if we say take player
Speaker 5: A over player D and player A is not good,
Speaker 5: like we aren't. Matt Ishbie isn't gonna come in and say,
Speaker 5: wait a minute, what was this down the road? So
Speaker 5: it's a little different, But I would give Grady Emerson
Speaker 5: a sled edge over Rock Scholowski.
Speaker 1: Okay, because there's White Sox fans that will push back
Speaker 1: a little bit and say, well, what happened in March?
Speaker 1: Because in March you're telling me after that tournaments against
Speaker 1: the SEC teams that you can go ahead and buyer
Speaker 1: Rockshawsky White Sox jerseys because he passed the toughest test
Speaker 1: that UCLA is going to have during the regular season
Speaker 1: and he was crushing it early. So what changed between
Speaker 1: March and now coming into July and why Chilawski is
Speaker 1: not the number one overall prospect?
Speaker 6: And for me at the end, close, yeah good, I'm
Speaker 6: with you, Like the more did you see Grady Emerson
Speaker 6: and you look at the data, but also Jim and
Speaker 6: you guys come to an amazing job covering just prospects
Speaker 6: throughout all of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4: It's the trend.
Speaker 1: A lot of your top ten are really young players,
Speaker 1: guys who are twenty years or younger, and Rock Schlowski,
Speaker 1: Rock's older than Kayleb Bonnemer, who's currently the White sox
Speaker 1: number one prospect in the farm system. Rock Shlawski's facing
Speaker 1: ninety ninety one when facing Washington, KYLEB. Bonnemer is in
Speaker 1: Double A, and Caleb Bonnomer has already accumulated more played
Speaker 1: appearances against the Vans pitching than Rock Schalowski. And we've
Speaker 1: seen what Kevin mcconagal has been doing for Detroit and
Speaker 1: what Connor Griffin has been doing for Pittsburgh. I just
Speaker 1: feel like, also influencing my decision put Emerson number one
Speaker 1: is more of the trend of Major League Baseball siding
Speaker 1: with youth, then I guess, quote unquote older prospects, even
Speaker 1: though Rockchlawski is just twenty one. Does that make sense
Speaker 1: as far as influencing some of the thinking.
Speaker 5: A little bit. I mean, I'm not so much worried
Speaker 5: about that because if Grady if I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: if Rochowsky won the sign, he would have been drafted
Speaker 5: Polly right around where Kevin McGonagall went, and he might
Speaker 5: be in the big leagues right now, and like, that's
Speaker 5: just a path I've taken for me. I think it's
Speaker 5: you start to talk at the beginning of that that
Speaker 5: Grady Emerson just the more you watch him, the more
Speaker 5: you like. I think it's more Grady Emerson moving up
Speaker 5: a little bit than Rock Scholowski's slumping now, I will say,
Speaker 5: And I am an SEC snob, and I went to
Speaker 5: Georgia and I wear my love for George in the
Speaker 5: SEC on my sleeve. The Big Ten's not very good,
Speaker 5: like like, on one hand, it's probably the fourth or
Speaker 5: fifth best conference in college baseball. But I remember there
Speaker 5: was this somebody tweeted out about Rock Scholowski's numbers on
Speaker 5: Friday night one very good, and I was like, it's
Speaker 5: more random because there's no first round picks pitching on
Speaker 5: Friday night in the Big Tent. Like maybe Mason Edwards
Speaker 5: at USC that's it. Like I think the second unless
Speaker 5: I'm forgetting somebody, you know, Isaac Moorean got hurt. So
Speaker 5: maybe Carson Yassa might be the next best Big Ten starter.
Speaker 5: And he's like, I don't know, fourth round pick, I
Speaker 5: don't think he's a big league starter. It's a really
Speaker 5: good arm. So I think maybe Rock no, it's not
Speaker 5: prospect fatigue. But I also think Rock came into the years. Okay,
Speaker 5: he's the biggest lock or strongest favorite to be number
Speaker 5: one coming into the year since Ali Rushman in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: Ali Rushman twenty nineteen went out and had unbelievable year.
Speaker 5: He was the best player in the country, and Rock, like,
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's fair, but measuring Rock against
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five Rock, Rock wasn't quite as good and
Speaker 5: he had a good year, but he didn't dominate, and
Speaker 5: he didn't tear up Big Ten competition, and down the
Speaker 5: stretch that whole lineup just seemed like they didn't hit
Speaker 5: the final month of the season, and they went from
Speaker 5: being number one from preseason through the regular season to
Speaker 5: I think they won all three their Big Ten They
Speaker 5: won the Big Ten tournament. I think all three games
Speaker 5: were walk offs right their last inning wins like they
Speaker 5: weren't like formidable, and then they got upset by a
Speaker 5: number four seed I think twice same team, number four
Speaker 5: seed in the regional. So I just think it's like
Speaker 5: in that part, I don't know that it's really fair
Speaker 5: to Rock because I think the tools are still the
Speaker 5: tools but I think if Rock tyears were flipped and
Speaker 5: he was very good last year and Great this year
Speaker 5: might be a little different. But but I think in
Speaker 5: all more comes down to if your tool and the
Speaker 5: players out. I think Grey Emerson a little bit better.
Speaker 5: And like I said, the thing I keep getting hung
Speaker 5: up on is at the same stage of their careers,
Speaker 5: because I mean, greyt Emerson's going to Texas and that's
Speaker 5: to see. But let's say Great Emerson didn't sign, he
Speaker 5: went to UCLA. I think he would destroy big ten
Speaker 5: pitching that he'd probably have. He'd probably put up the
Speaker 5: same numbers that Rock Chelowsky put up for three years.
Speaker 5: So I just think, you know, trying to compare them
Speaker 5: the same stages and the tools. I like Grady Emerson.
Speaker 5: I like the bat a little bit more. He's definitely quicker.
Speaker 5: I think they'll be comparable defenders in the long run.
Speaker 5: Ill And again I always err on the side of
Speaker 5: upside and I would do that, and I think with
Speaker 5: the White Sox I kind of like and things will change,
Speaker 5: Like there'll be a lot of discussions obviously in the
Speaker 5: next twelve days. What I keep hearing is I think,
Speaker 5: and it's not a vote it's not a democracy in Chicago.
Speaker 5: But I think if you if the Scout, like the
Speaker 5: Scouting decision makers voted, I think Grady Emerson would win
Speaker 5: that vote. But they don't like this guy, like especially
Speaker 5: number on overall pick. They don't just say, hey, Mike,
Speaker 5: surely do what you want. We'll be good with it,
Speaker 5: and like and not. And Mike's very capable. But you
Speaker 5: know you're gonna have Chris Gatz and you know, guys
Speaker 5: who are higher up the food chain, you know, assisted
Speaker 5: GM special assistance weighing in. I don't know to watch St.
Speaker 5: Jerry rein store for when I don't want to extend Ishbo,
Speaker 5: you know, like I don't know how much power Ishba
Speaker 5: has right now. I would assume some like at some
Speaker 5: point he's gonna he's putting money into the team and like,
Speaker 5: like it was funny because you talked about how much
Speaker 5: has changed come into your two like like even the
Speaker 5: Star season. I think the narrative was okay, Like the
Speaker 5: higher ups want a guy who like help quicker. You
Speaker 5: know this team needs a lot of help. Say you
Speaker 5: want a guy who can get to the big leagues quicker. Well, again,
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not saying this team, you know, we're
Speaker 5: not buying playoff tickets yet this team is like right
Speaker 5: there in first place in the Al Central, so they
Speaker 5: don't need immediate help. So and even the whole immediate
Speaker 5: health thing, like that's a terrible way, Like I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't think I'd rather have the best return round
Speaker 5: than the quickest return on my investment. So like I've
Speaker 5: never bought, like you, immediate help is a great way draft,
Speaker 5: Like like maybe if you know and they don't have
Speaker 5: a shortz the whole, maybe you know, if they were
Speaker 5: in first place and they had the world's worst shortstop
Speaker 5: playing for them, and know like like not the Rocks
Speaker 5: and go straight to the big leagues. But like maybe
Speaker 5: if you had somebody who was the most advanced player
Speaker 5: of all time was right in your lineup and fill
Speaker 5: position to need, or you had Paul Skins was out
Speaker 5: there and you're like, you know what, We'll take Paul
Speaker 5: Skins and put them in the rotation, like which he
Speaker 5: would have been a good pick on tap, Like I
Speaker 5: could see that, but I think you're better off taken
Speaker 5: whoever you think the better player is. But it like
Speaker 5: I keep hearing the narrative that they want and they
Speaker 5: want a more advanced player with a little bit of
Speaker 5: a higher floor. So I I feel like it's kind
Speaker 5: of I don't know. It's either I keep I keep like,
Speaker 5: is it fifty percent Rock, forty percent Emerson, ten percent
Speaker 5: von Lackey or it might be forty five forty five
Speaker 5: to ten. I mean it's close, and like we I
Speaker 5: don't know that we'll really know much in advance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I was on recent White Sox Weekly with
Speaker 1: Jeff Miller and I made that same point Jim, like,
Speaker 1: I have forty five forty five for Chilowski and Emerson
Speaker 1: and ten percent Lackey, and Lackey is just he's very talented,
Speaker 1: but right now, at this stage of the conversation, I
Speaker 1: think he is a distant third.
Speaker 4: Uh. And if the number one pig were tomorrow, I think.
Speaker 1: I'd still bet that it would be Chilowski because from
Speaker 1: it Chris Getz's point of view, who told a lot
Speaker 1: of people in spring training February that his advice from
Speaker 1: other teams that had number one pick is don't overthink it.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: For the two have did that second half of the
Speaker 1: Big Ten season for Rock Chailowski.
Speaker 4: Was it that bad that it changed Chris Gatz's mind?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't think I wasn't that yeah, But it's it's
Speaker 5: it's like I said, it's it's funny because you just
Speaker 5: don't know. And it's funny like I even going into
Speaker 5: White Laster's draft, we didn't know who Nationals were gonna
Speaker 5: take number one, and it seemed like the three guys
Speaker 5: were Ethan holl all day and didn't somebody who's nostalking
Speaker 5: be than Holiday, Kate Anderson and Eli Willitts. And I
Speaker 5: kept hearing like I don't know that was they don't
Speaker 5: want to deal with the Boris guy because Scott Worriz
Speaker 5: represented Ethan Hollider at Kate Anderson as much as they
Speaker 5: thought they could get a better financial value for the
Speaker 5: talent if they went with the non borist guy. But
Speaker 5: I remember, like I thought, Eli willarts Is. Maybe I
Speaker 5: don't remember what I said on the broadcast for the draft,
Speaker 5: like fifteen percent it went number one. But it's like
Speaker 5: like even those of us who do this, like I
Speaker 5: spend way too many hours trying to figure out who's
Speaker 5: going number one and so on, you just we just
Speaker 5: aren't going to know like it's the days of the
Speaker 5: teams would know like a week in advance and would
Speaker 5: tell you that those days are gone. And it it
Speaker 5: doesn't make sense unless like like let's say it's Rocksblowski,
Speaker 5: we'll just U say it or whoever you want to
Speaker 5: put in there, unless they know we want to be Rock, Hey, Rock,
Speaker 5: we're going to give you X, and Rock says, hey,
Speaker 5: X would be great, and they worked that out three
Speaker 5: days in the advance. But it usually doesn't work that way.
Speaker 5: And the interesting thing is is this year Rockslaski and
Speaker 5: Great emersoner represented by the same agency, which is the
Speaker 5: team formerly Washerman. So it's not like anything they're saying
Speaker 5: to one player the other player won't know about. And
Speaker 5: I do wonder not take anything away from von Lacky.
Speaker 5: I do think he's a distant third. I do wonder
Speaker 5: if the Von Lackey kind of being in the mix
Speaker 5: is almost like, hey, we could go in this other
Speaker 5: direction with a guy who's not represented by you guys,
Speaker 5: like I do think there's like I think they have
Speaker 5: sincere interest in von Lackey. He's a very good player.
Speaker 5: But also that's the way you have to play the game,
Speaker 5: like like at one point it seemed like the three
Speaker 5: guys were Chilowski, Emerson and Jacob Lombard, who's an our
Speaker 5: short stop who's also represented by the team, And like,
Speaker 5: I don't think a big league club ever once like
Speaker 5: when they narrow the field down they have all the
Speaker 5: players represented by the same agency, because then you really
Speaker 5: have no leverage over any of them where they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: like what are they offering this guy? Or where they
Speaker 5: offer that guy? Like the team is gonna know Rock
Speaker 5: Schlowski and Gray Emerson and their advisors are going to
Speaker 5: know exactly what the other guy's being offered by the
Speaker 5: White Sox, so it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: And one of those representatives of the team is Jeff
Speaker 1: Samars's brother, Scott uh So Me, Sam, I'm sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: Sam Samarja yeah, Sam.
Speaker 4: Sam may know.
Speaker 1: More on how the top five is going to go
Speaker 1: down than any of us or any of the FLb
Speaker 1: teams with the current negotiations. So if what does your
Speaker 1: gut say if the draft were five minutes from now,
Speaker 1: who would the White Sox take number one?
Speaker 4: Overall?
Speaker 5: I still think it's Rock Schilowski, me too, But I
Speaker 5: feel like you said if you were betting, and I,
Speaker 5: of course I'm not allowed to bet on anything related
Speaker 5: to Major League Baseball or even I think partake of
Speaker 5: prediction markets. But uh man, I would not. I would
Speaker 5: not bet on it because I just don't know. It's
Speaker 5: like a coin flip. I mean, if you, if you,
Speaker 5: if you want to bet and flip the coin. But
Speaker 5: I feel like it's you know, I feel like it's
Speaker 5: kind of forty five, forty five ten, fifty forty ten,
Speaker 5: like if you if you take von LACKEYU the mix,
Speaker 5: like I go, maybe fifty one rock forty nine Emerson,
Speaker 5: Like I just don't. I just don't know, And like
Speaker 5: I it's funny. I'll say this now and you can
Speaker 5: remind me this later on Friday night. I'll be sitting
Speaker 5: in Philadelphia trying to figure out who's going number one,
Speaker 5: and you'd be shaking my head, being like, well, we're
Speaker 5: just not gonna know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's how that's how I feel.
Speaker 1: We'll find out five minutes before.
Speaker 5: Honestly, we don't even find out five minutes before anymore.
Speaker 5: Like a lot of times we find out, like when
Speaker 5: we're on MLB Network, they don't tell us the picks
Speaker 5: in advance, because they want us to react naturally. You know,
Speaker 5: the only time they'll tell us is if, like when
Speaker 5: we're doing four rounds no MLB network the first day,
Speaker 5: well not non MLB network, we're doing four rounds the
Speaker 5: first day, you'll be on various rounds will be on
Speaker 5: NBC Sports Peacock MLB network, and then weilbe dot com
Speaker 5: like you're gonna have to switch around anyway. They will
Speaker 5: let us know if, like years ago when the Cubs
Speaker 5: took Hayden Simpson, they'll be like, do have anything on
Speaker 5: Hayden and Simpson? Like if they don't prepared for him?
Speaker 5: Whether than that, they just have us react naturally. So
Speaker 5: my get. I mean, the White Sox will submit the
Speaker 5: pick like a minute or two before the commissioner announces it,
Speaker 5: but they won't even tell us then unless I mean,
Speaker 5: there's no way the number one picking be anybody we
Speaker 5: would not be prepared for, but they would they we
Speaker 5: won't know. So I I'll be sitting there before the
Speaker 5: draft like we have I think a thirty minute pre
Speaker 5: draft show, and I'll be texting the whole time, like
Speaker 5: trying to find out, Hey, who's going on one? But
Speaker 5: I don't know that I'm gonna find out well.
Speaker 1: James Vegan will be there representing Sox Machine covering the
Speaker 1: MLB Draft and all the All Star festivities in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: So Soxx Machine listeners, you'll get a chance to read
Speaker 1: some on site coverage as well when the White Sox
Speaker 1: do make that number one pick, and Jim Marglus and
Speaker 1: I will be live streaming as well with our live
Speaker 1: reactions to the White Sox number one pick on Saturday,
Speaker 1: July eleventh. I think what my next update on Sox
Speaker 1: Machine listeners is. I have a feeling this could be
Speaker 1: the most contentious draft for White Sox fans because my
Speaker 1: gut also tells me Jim that Von Lackey might be
Speaker 1: the preferred choice for Tampa Bay at pick number two,
Speaker 1: which means that whoever the White Sox don't take between
Speaker 1: Grady Emerson and Rock Scholowski could very well go.
Speaker 4: To the Minnesota Twins at pick number three.
Speaker 1: So this debate between Chilawski and Emerson will never end,
Speaker 1: and then we'll have on the field results and data
Speaker 1: and constantly compare these two players, somewhat like White Sox
Speaker 1: fans still do with Hagen Smith and Jack Thagnione, but
Speaker 1: on a whole nother level because the White Sox at
Speaker 1: the number one pick and did they make the right choice?
Speaker 4: So is my gut right?
Speaker 1: Is there a chance that either Chilawski or Emerson could
Speaker 1: fall to the Twins number three?
Speaker 5: I think there is, Like there's some I also struggle,
Speaker 5: like who did the race take? Would the Rays take Lacky?
Speaker 5: And it's funny to it'll be like, oh, like they
Speaker 5: regret taking Buster, not taking Buster Posey, but the number
Speaker 5: one pick? Like really or really eighteen years later we're
Speaker 5: gonna let like a decision that's a.
Speaker 4: Whole different front office too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like but like you hear that narrative. But I've
Speaker 5: talked to teams taken behind the Rays, one in particular,
Speaker 5: they feel strongly that they're gonna take Lackey and that team.
Speaker 5: I asked the guy, like, how convicted are He's like,
Speaker 5: fairly convicted, and like because the teams will talk to
Speaker 5: each other so or they see each other and they
Speaker 5: can read the tea leaves too, So yeah, I think again.
Speaker 5: I mean, I had fun in the last solo mock
Speaker 5: draft I did a couple of weeks ago when I
Speaker 5: was in Omaha. I did percentages of and at that
Speaker 5: point I had fifty. I had fifty Emerson, ten percent Lackey.
Speaker 5: And then at Tampa Bay I wished out and I
Speaker 5: went thirty five percent Lackey and thirty two and a
Speaker 5: half percent for Chilowski. And ever since so I did
Speaker 5: various things. So I do feel like there's a decent chance.
Speaker 5: Like it's again, I think it's fifty. If this isn't
Speaker 5: fun and we're not. I mean, there's more than a
Speaker 5: guesswork that goes into this, but the end of the day,
Speaker 5: we're kind of guessing because we don't know. I feel
Speaker 5: like it's fifty to fifty whether the Grays would take
Speaker 5: von Lackey versus one of the short stops, and yeah,
Speaker 5: leave a guy for the Twins. Like the thing is
Speaker 5: too like I know about it seems like it was
Speaker 5: I don't know, four six weeks ago. You have this
Speaker 5: narrative Rokchlowski doesn't want to play in Chicago, and I
Speaker 5: don't know where that came from. And you know the Giants,
Speaker 5: you know they traded Patrick Bailey and they got extra money.
Speaker 5: The Whites Sock still have more money in the White
Speaker 5: Sox than the Giants. Who are picking forth. But the
Speaker 5: Giants will do anything for Rockchalowski and they're gonna throw
Speaker 5: all this money at him. And you know what are
Speaker 5: the White Socks gonna do? And I keep one thing
Speaker 5: I keep trying to tell White Sox fans, the White
Speaker 5: Sox are gonna take the guy they think is the
Speaker 5: best player. If they don't take Rockcholowski one. It's not
Speaker 5: because Rock Cholowski doesn't want to be in Chicago. It's
Speaker 5: not because Bust Posey spook the White Sox. Like the
Speaker 5: White Socks are gonna take the most point thing. To
Speaker 5: remember what the White Sox is. They are going to
Speaker 5: take the player they want to tick like they're going
Speaker 5: to offer this guy. The example I kpusing is you
Speaker 5: know the record for Bonus is nine point three. I
Speaker 5: think the slot value for the number one pick is
Speaker 5: eleven and a half. Nobody's getting eleven and a half. Like,
Speaker 5: maybe you'll give the number one pick nine a half
Speaker 5: or two. Well, we'll just say ten million dollars to
Speaker 5: keep it around number If you offer Rock Cholowski ten
Speaker 5: million dollars and he has no desire to play in Chicago,
Speaker 5: and Buster Posey's telling him we'll give you fifteen million,
Speaker 5: which would be too high. But let's just say we'll
Speaker 5: give you fifteen million, which is like ninety percent of
Speaker 5: our pool. But White White Sox can still take Rock
Speaker 5: Chilowski and be like Rock, you got two choices. You
Speaker 5: can take ten million dollars, or you can go be
Speaker 5: a senior sign out of the sail next, or you
Speaker 5: could go to any ball whatever. Like, whoever they take
Speaker 5: is not going to turn down whatever the White Sox offer.
Speaker 5: The only thing that guy can do is that they
Speaker 5: want to be difficult. They say, Okay, White Sox, I
Speaker 5: don't like this offer. I will accept it because I'm
Speaker 5: not going back to school, but I'll wait till five
Speaker 5: seconds before the deadline to accept it to tie up
Speaker 5: your extra money. Like that's basically all they can do.
Speaker 5: You want the guy to agree to a number that
Speaker 5: gives you enough time to spend the savings. But ultimately,
Speaker 5: the most important thing for White Sox fans for remember
Speaker 5: is like despite when narratives come out, they will take
Speaker 5: the guy they think is the best player.
Speaker 1: And then when it comes to pick forty one. Throughout
Speaker 1: this draft season, I've gotten chance to see Landon told
Speaker 1: me three times you could read those reports, and Socksmachine
Speaker 1: dot com took some video of seeing him homeward in
Speaker 1: two of those three games, and now I have a
Speaker 1: feeling he is not going to be on the board
Speaker 1: at pick forty one. What's the latest that you're hearing
Speaker 1: with Landon Tomy Jim.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean so once in this draft, once you
Speaker 5: get past like there's kind of six guys who are
Speaker 5: head of everybody else and are gonna go in the
Speaker 5: top six or seven picks, and after that you just
Speaker 5: get these wide ranges on guys like guys who could
Speaker 5: go seventh to Orioles or maybe they go seventeen, and
Speaker 5: then when you get down to alec Lnntomi, I think
Speaker 5: is kind of in the not I'm not saying specifically
Speaker 5: the Red Sex pick twenty, so I'm not saying specifically,
Speaker 5: it's more gently twenty to. I'll say twenty to forty one,
Speaker 5: because I really don't think he get past the White
Speaker 5: Sux at forty one, and it's just like I I
Speaker 5: had him going twenty two. Jonathan and I are last
Speaker 5: mock draft. We did a combo effort at the combine
Speaker 5: because we're running around and we don't have the time
Speaker 5: we all like Jonathan has it this week, and Jonathan
Speaker 5: will spend hours contacting people and we're runn around the combine.
Speaker 5: We don't do that. So we did kind of a
Speaker 5: joint combine with alternative takes, and I gave Tomey to
Speaker 5: the Detroit Tigers, another Ale Central foe at number twenty two. Now,
Speaker 5: that said, the Tigers are as close mouthed as any team,
Speaker 5: and that was me going with type. Hey, they like
Speaker 5: left handed high school bas so I gave him Lannon Toma.
Speaker 5: I don't have like great insight like, oh, they're definitely
Speaker 5: taking them to he's air. But I do think I
Speaker 5: don't think there's even a littlest of interest from Potters
Speaker 5: at twenty one. There may be interesting even a little
Speaker 5: bit above that. I I just think he's such a
Speaker 5: good hitter. He's gonna have a least average power. He's
Speaker 5: gotten He's not a shortstop, but he's gotten better defensively
Speaker 5: to where I bet whoever drafts him plays him at
Speaker 5: shortstop at the beginning of his pro career, and I
Speaker 5: think coming into the year before the season, the question
Speaker 5: was act can you stand the dirt or is even
Speaker 5: more of a left field for his base type, and
Speaker 5: now I think you feel pretty good, like, you know what,
Speaker 5: this guy could play second or third, So like he's
Speaker 5: like that's not gonna be the bulk of his value,
Speaker 5: but he's gonna have more positional value than you thought.
Speaker 5: And everybody loves the makeup. I don't think he's getting
Speaker 5: to forty one. I don't think it's impossible because you know,
Speaker 5: also the thing is number two. You're gonna have some
Speaker 5: deals cut where the guy you know, like guys are
Speaker 5: gonna get taken who are ranked in the thirties and
Speaker 5: they're gonna get taken eighteenth, and it's gonna push guys down.
Speaker 5: And so maybe the Tigers really do like Landon Tollman
Speaker 5: and they really want him, but they look up, Hey
Speaker 5: there's a guy twenty two. We didn't think it was
Speaker 5: gonna be there, and so I fall down. So I
Speaker 5: think I feel like he could he could get into
Speaker 5: the thirties. I don't think he can get to forty one.
Speaker 5: And there there were rumors that the White Sox are
Speaker 5: looking to trade for some of these you know, competitive
Speaker 5: balance pick. There are rumors that the Pirates would be
Speaker 5: willing to trade their pick, although they're kind of contending
Speaker 5: to so I don't think they're going to just trade
Speaker 5: it for prospect. I don't know, but yeah, if I
Speaker 5: had to guess, I don't think Colony's getting the forty one.
Speaker 1: I am with you, And of course, naturally, the next
Speaker 1: question is who could go number forty one for the
Speaker 1: White Sox, And I'm not sure there's not an easy
Speaker 1: or a clear backup plank. So to me, it makes
Speaker 1: sense with the bonus rul that they have that you
Speaker 1: would go prep and go overslot at pick forty one.
Speaker 4: But we could see quite a bit of a run of.
Speaker 1: The talent a high schoolers going the late first round
Speaker 1: into the Comppix. Jim, So, I'm not exactly sure it
Speaker 1: could be left over for the White Sox at pick
Speaker 1: forty one.
Speaker 5: I mean I've heard names like Archer Horn. Yeah he's
Speaker 5: a cow Florida high school and field. But again, you like,
Speaker 5: at one point I predicted Archie Horne to go twenty two.
Speaker 5: It's just hard to know who's gonna be there. I
Speaker 5: you know, I think like one name I've heard they
Speaker 5: liked some is Jared Avancola at Georgia Tech, who's like
Speaker 5: kind of a study in extremes. Hit the second best
Speaker 5: batting average in Division One this year is like four thirties.
Speaker 5: He hit four to seventy seven. I think in acc play,
Speaker 5: but it's extreme contact. He hits for super high average
Speaker 5: but there are not exi velocities and he chases but
Speaker 5: like he is a plus runner. He can play second base.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like nothing's like if you're doing baseball Savont,
Speaker 5: it feels like everything would be bright red or bright blue,
Speaker 5: like like there'd be no there'd be nothing in the middle,
Speaker 5: Like everything would be kind of extreme. But again you
Speaker 5: just don't know who's gonna be there, like like there's
Speaker 5: gonna be some high school pitchers who fall. You know,
Speaker 5: I wonder like like a guy who I always feel
Speaker 5: like should begin a little bit more love and it
Speaker 5: just doesn't like to Daniel Jackson, Yeah, he'd be interesting.
Speaker 5: Like I haven't looked. I mean the joke we all
Speaker 5: make is just look at the I haven't looked at
Speaker 5: the Area Code game roster from last year.
Speaker 4: Oh I have you have?
Speaker 5: I don't have it in front of me, but like,
Speaker 5: like like their mo o has been to take an
Speaker 5: aera Code guy with that second pick and give him
Speaker 5: like two million, nine ninetyeven undred dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, candidates off a yeah, Bo Peterson who dropped, can't
Speaker 1: take him. Ethan Bass who I've seen a couple of
Speaker 1: times this year, a little little rich yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Savve On Simms, the righty from High you can't take together,
Speaker 1: Tomic Center Rally, who was a draft combine high.
Speaker 5: But that's it feels a little high, a little high thing,
Speaker 5: a guy who might be might be a first baseman
Speaker 5: but has big power.
Speaker 1: And then Sean Dunlap the catcher from Crown Point. I
Speaker 1: think that's too high as well.
Speaker 5: The one I threw out early in the year because
Speaker 5: before they start taking the air cod game guys, which
Speaker 5: they they don't answer I taking the second round, they
Speaker 5: also were like, let's take the SEC guy coming off
Speaker 5: elbow surgery. So here's my conspiracy theory. Carson Wiggins of Arkansas,
Speaker 5: former White Sox Area Code guy also coming back from
Speaker 5: maternal brake surgery. So you could hit both demographics. That's like, like,
Speaker 5: I think like the last five White Sox second round picks,
Speaker 5: or at least the last four have either been the
Speaker 5: Airy Code or SEC guy coming off elbow surgery. This
Speaker 5: way you hit both demographics, so I'll make my Carson
Speaker 5: and he has a great arm combine, but yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know, and like like we'll we will. We've
Speaker 5: been stopping at forty because the White Sox, I mean,
Speaker 5: the Dodgers' first pick is at forty, so we've been
Speaker 5: going forty deep. But like when you're getting that deep,
Speaker 5: you're just throwing darts like like like and I don't know,
Speaker 5: Like if we were to project and I'm not hopefully
Speaker 5: my editors aren't listening to I'm not suggesting, so we're
Speaker 5: gonna be like, oh, let's protect the whole second round,
Speaker 5: which would be insane, like like if I had the time,
Speaker 5: it would be like I would text people to the
Speaker 5: White Sox and be like, hey, i'm projecting this player here.
Speaker 5: Is there are youn you just tell me there's at
Speaker 5: least a chance, like all like at that point, you're
Speaker 5: just hoping. My goal when we do these mocks and
Speaker 5: we project the like when I'm projecting the Sandwich picks
Speaker 5: is just tell me the guy's viable, because we don't
Speaker 5: know who's going to be there. I just don't want
Speaker 5: to put Hey, the pirates are taking Josh Nelson at
Speaker 5: thirty four, and then how the pirates say, we don't
Speaker 5: like that we're not taking like like like so like
Speaker 5: that's kind of a threshold when you start getting in
Speaker 5: the thirties, is that there's a chance the team would
Speaker 5: take that guy if you were on the board. So
Speaker 5: I haven't really heard much at forty one. I just
Speaker 5: we all make everybody I talk to all make the
Speaker 5: same jokes about like like I would say Land to
Speaker 5: tell me he goes twenty to forty, but I always
Speaker 5: amend that to twenty to forty one. I think he
Speaker 5: would about ninety nine percent be the pick if he
Speaker 5: was there at forty one. Like, like, y'all tell you
Speaker 5: who I would vote for if I were the White Sox.
Speaker 5: I like this guy. He didn't have the greatest spring,
Speaker 5: it was fine. I like Carson Bowman, the high school
Speaker 5: uh lefty from South Carolina who coming in the year
Speaker 5: I thought was the best pitcher in the draft. And
Speaker 5: white Soxs are gonna have money that too. If I
Speaker 5: were a White Sox fan, like, get me Grady Emerson
Speaker 5: rock Chilawski with that number one pick, and then flip
Speaker 5: Bulman down and Bowman also represented by the team blowed
Speaker 5: him down to forty one, that would but I don't.
Speaker 5: I just think there's too many teams that will take again.
Speaker 5: You can't. You could say he like last time out,
Speaker 5: bust proposy, like I'll just throw out a crate like
Speaker 5: whit said, We'll give Carson Bowlman six million dollars like
Speaker 5: with which they wouldn't give him that much. But they
Speaker 5: could say that. But find the Royals picking at thirty
Speaker 5: or wherever I'm picking, and I like high school lefties.
Speaker 5: I just be like, that's great, Carson, but we're't taking
Speaker 5: you and we're gonna give you three and a half
Speaker 5: or four. Do you want to go to college or
Speaker 5: do you want to sign? So? But yeah, it's it's
Speaker 5: it was so easy, Josh. In the off season, we
Speaker 5: knew Rock was going one. We didn't tell me what
Speaker 5: was going forty one. And now we're we're just not sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I went to Texas to Sea Rock. I
Speaker 1: went to Omaha to Sea Rock.
Speaker 4: He traveled to I did I Did you get a
Speaker 4: chance to talk to him?
Speaker 1: I did not, because that was at the time that
Speaker 1: Rusty Greer was protecting him, and I understand that Russy
Speaker 1: is just very upfront, like this is this high school
Speaker 1: still very new to Grady. There's there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1: We're early in the season, so I totally understood. But
Speaker 1: you know, Rusty would talk my ear off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a great kid. I mean, like, if Grady
Speaker 5: Emerson is the White Sox number one pick, I know,
Speaker 5: like you guys do such a great job. So like you,
Speaker 5: I'm sure you'll have him on the podcast before the
Speaker 5: end of July at the latest. You will enjoy talking
Speaker 5: to him. He's tremendous.
Speaker 4: Yes, I really do enjoy that interview that you guys had.
Speaker 1: You can listen to the questions that Grady Emerson did
Speaker 1: answer on the MLB Pipeline podcast.
Speaker 4: Highly recommend it.
Speaker 1: It's It's always in my play list, especially when I'm
Speaker 1: hopping on the pelllet. So thank you to Jim and
Speaker 1: Johnathon Mayo to try to keep me in shape.
Speaker 4: I will say before we we end this podcast.
Speaker 1: Dominic Centarelli and Jack Slidam, I'm looking at third and
Speaker 1: fourth round for the White Sox as far as the
Speaker 1: area go.
Speaker 4: Guys a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Confident pick seventy seven, one five than pick forty one.
Speaker 5: But I like this guys. I was gonna say, Santarelli
Speaker 5: is a slugger. He has some of the best high
Speaker 5: school power in this draft, Like he's a bigger guy.
Speaker 5: It's it's the old he's more athletic than he looks,
Speaker 5: but he still might be a first basement I think
Speaker 5: the biggest question with him, and I admit I do
Speaker 5: not know sign ability as the guys yet it's too early,
Speaker 5: like like seventy seven is about around where he should go.
Speaker 5: I just don't know, Like like the White Sex Web money,
Speaker 5: I don't know what the White Sex would offer him,
Speaker 5: Like it may be tough to get him away from LSU,
Speaker 5: like like that may not just be. It's not just
Speaker 5: we take the guy's seventy seven he's gonna sign and
Speaker 5: then slight them. Slight them may go higher, like you
Speaker 5: never you know in high school pitchers. But I do
Speaker 5: think slighth is kind of pushed himself into sounds like
Speaker 5: seven figure range, and so you may like again like
Speaker 5: if you took Jack Slaton in the fourth round, you
Speaker 5: aren't given him fourth round money. But I don't know.
Speaker 5: And again I I don't know these numbers all. I
Speaker 5: don't know if Jack Sladon is he gonna cost a million?
Speaker 5: Is he gonna cost a million? Half? Is he gonna
Speaker 5: cost two million? But like again the White Socks with
Speaker 5: their bonus pool, And here's a fun part. So let's
Speaker 5: say you give and again, I don't know if it's
Speaker 5: gonna be nine half or ten million, but I think
Speaker 5: that's gonna be the range of the number one overall pick,
Speaker 5: and that'll be a record. So they're gonna save like
Speaker 5: a million and a half right there. Then, because they're
Speaker 5: bonus pools almost eighteen million dollars, they can go five
Speaker 5: percent over and they've done that, that's like another nine
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars. So they're gonna have after the first
Speaker 5: pick probably one point nine to two point four million
Speaker 5: dollars extra on top of their already big bonus pool
Speaker 5: and play with. So they probably can go big in
Speaker 5: rounds two, three, and four. Like obviously the number one
Speaker 5: pick matters the most and reagonize over it, but it's
Speaker 5: probably Rock versus Ember. Someone comes down to it, you're
Speaker 5: gonna get a very good shortstop and they're very similar profiles.
Speaker 5: Grady's just a little bit quicker, but so like that's
Speaker 5: almost a given. You know, you're getting a potential superstar
Speaker 5: shortstop with on one pick. It's what they do with
Speaker 5: the with the picks two, three, and four that I
Speaker 5: think is going to be really interesting because you could
Speaker 5: you could take that extra we'll just round off and
Speaker 5: called two million dollars and throw it all at picks
Speaker 5: forty one, or you could spread it out, like you
Speaker 5: could do so many different things with that money that
Speaker 5: like there's gonna be a lot of one of our
Speaker 5: many dogs is barked in the background, Like you could
Speaker 5: do so many things. So I'm looking at pick forty
Speaker 5: one is worth two and a half million dollars, So
Speaker 5: if you all the money into that, you could go
Speaker 5: go four and a half million on that. But if
Speaker 5: let's say you give a guy three, which is what
Speaker 5: they've normally done, okay, well we still have one and
Speaker 5: a half million to play, so the seventy seven is
Speaker 5: worth one point one millions. I could go to two.
Speaker 5: I could go two million and still have money left
Speaker 5: over for the fourth round. So it'll be very interesting,
Speaker 5: Like I'm sure that's going to be very fun or
Speaker 5: maybe harroling, depending on your point of view if you're
Speaker 5: with the White Sox. But there's so many different ways
Speaker 5: you can play that, but also trying to project, like, okay,
Speaker 5: like our fourth round pick, like we could probably go
Speaker 5: they could probably go like one point two five, one
Speaker 5: point five on the fourth round pick, pretty easy, Like
Speaker 5: who can we push to pick four to the fourth round?
Speaker 5: That's where like like, so trying to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 5: how do we want to divide up the money between
Speaker 5: these top four picks, and then how easy is it
Speaker 5: going to be to get guys to move down. It's fascinating,
Speaker 5: Like there's so many different ways they can play it.
Speaker 1: It will be a very fun weekend coming up again.
Speaker 1: The first round will be on Saturday, July eleventh. The
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox we having a watch party at the
Speaker 1: stadium before their game against Sacramento Athletics. Of course, that's
Speaker 1: also the same day as the Alumni home run Derby.
Speaker 4: Many ways to be able to watch.
Speaker 5: The doing a watch party, I like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, at the stadium, So they're going to open the
Speaker 1: gates at eleven thirty and the draft will start at
Speaker 1: twelve thirty. First Bitch will be at one o'clock, so
Speaker 1: the Athletics will be warming up on the field and
Speaker 1: the White Sox will be.
Speaker 5: Maybe cheers or booze, depending on what what That's true.
Speaker 4: That is very true. Again, you can follow Jim Ahead.
Speaker 5: I had a question for you. I always have to
Speaker 5: ask you. Do you think, even if they listen to
Speaker 5: this podcast, the White Sox fans are going to be
Speaker 5: disappointed if the team takes Grady Emerson based on all
Speaker 5: the hype of the Rock Twowski's guns.
Speaker 4: Yes, I do.
Speaker 5: I do too. I kind of feel too, And it's like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, I feel like, hopefully Grady Emerson's really
Speaker 5: really good, and like I think, I think there's gonna
Speaker 5: be some slight disappointment. And I also think there's gonna
Speaker 5: be this narrative that the White Sox were forced off
Speaker 5: a rock and again I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 5: I think if they take Grety Emerson, it's because they
Speaker 5: want a Grety Emerson.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, there's there's a there's a lot of
Speaker 1: excitement for Rockschulawski just because of the name. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's great marketing, it's great hype. A lot of
Speaker 1: outside Polish fans are ready to replace their aj Prasinski
Speaker 1: jerseys with Rock Schelowski jerseys.
Speaker 5: You can wear both. You don't have to. You don't
Speaker 5: have to put aj in the deposit.
Speaker 4: Come on, you can.
Speaker 1: But again, you can follow Jim on Twitter. He's at
Speaker 1: Jim Kallis MLB. Again, listen to the MLB Pipeline podcast.
Speaker 1: He and Jonathan Mayo have been interviewing many the top prospects.
Speaker 1: If you want to get a chance to know these
Speaker 1: top prospects, strongly recommend listening to those episodes, especially their
Speaker 1: episodes from the LB Draft combine, and of course they'll
Speaker 1: be covering the MLB Draft every day all the way
Speaker 1: up to Draft Day and be able to watch the
Speaker 1: first round on NBC.
Speaker 4: Jim, as always, thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 4: the podcast to preview the MLB Draft.
Speaker 1: I hope you have a blast covering it, and we'll
Speaker 1: chat shortly after the draft to see how the White
Speaker 1: Sox do.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I always enjoyed talking to Josh. Always ask
Speaker 5: you questions. I'm sure, sure we'll talk, we'll talk afterwards,
Speaker 5: but yeah, that's time. I'm looking forward to see who
Speaker 5: winds up going number one. H