1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: What's up his way up at Angela Ye, and this 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: is my guy right here. Oh man, my Brooklyn brother 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Toy Ray is in the building up And I saw 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: you at Grammy weekend doing it big hosting. And you 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: guys have the Black Music Collective now and you well 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: you are the co chair. 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Yes, myself and my brother j Ivy CoA chair is 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: are the Black Music. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Collective all right, So talk to me about the Black 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Music Collective at the Grammys because that feels like the place. 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: To be for sure. 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: Well, so what you probably saw was a lot of 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: videos and pictures from the gala, you know, BMC Honors. 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: But outside of that, the Black Music Collective is just 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: an organization within the organization and they really just is 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: there to uphold, to strengthen relationships, to make sure that 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: the black creators get they just do across all genres 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: of music, you know what I'm saying. Like, obviously there's 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: always been a disconnect between the Grammys and hip hop 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: or R and B and all that. So, you know, 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: shout to Rigs Morales and Challa Riggs to just having 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 3: an organization of people and like minds that work within 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: the Recording Academy that are voting members that are professional 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: members that just stand there and figure out ways to 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: strengthen those communities through education, through advocacy, and all across 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: the board. So it's really dope to be the coach 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: of it with Jivy, and we've been doing some great things. 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: I want to ask you too, because and I'm glad 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: that you talked about all of that, because people have 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: there's been times people have boycotted the Grammys in the past. 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: So this feels like a really proactive way of making 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: sure that people's voices are heard and that we're represented 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: at the Grammys. And some people will tell you, oh, 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: who cares, the Grammy doesn't matter, And for you, being 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: as involved as you are, how would you respond to that? 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it matters because it's if it's 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: a pair based voting system, and if the requirement is 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: the standard of excellence and you are you excellent in 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: your craft and you should be honor It's like, you know, 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: obviously we can't talk about the history. We can't reverse 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: the history of what it was, right. It's no different 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: than we can reverse the history of this country. 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: That's why saying the President of the United States and 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: you can say that you don't want anything that has 45 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: to be about stress. 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: I'm so stressed. 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: But imagine boycott and the buses. We should, right, imagine 48 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: you boycott and the buses in twenty twenty six because 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 3: of what happened, you know, during segregation. It's like there's 50 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: new systems in place. And yeah, the buses were once 51 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: not the place to be and they didn't treat black 52 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: people the best. Now, but if you have people in 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: there that are trying to make a change out of 54 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: the fighting from the inside, and the organizations is willing 55 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: to work together to just try to and form and 56 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: forge those relationships, then why wouldn't you be a part 57 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: of it. 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: You talk about your peers. 59 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: Some people also don't know how Grammys work and how's 60 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: the biggest thing and how the whole system works. 61 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: So can you break that down? 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: So it's a peer based voting system. So like me, right, 63 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: I'm a voting member. Let me just say this too 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 3: before I even break that down. If you have twelve 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: credits in any professional recording capacity, you could be a 66 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: voting member yourself. So I mean twelve credits as I'm 67 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: a songwriter, I'm an artist, right, So I got twelve. 68 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: If I put out an album of twelve songs, I'm automatically qualified. 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: If you're a producer and you got twelve production credits 70 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: over the last five years, you automatically qualify. If you're 71 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: a writer, if you're an engineer, if you are a master, 72 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: or if you're a composer, any category that gets awarded, 73 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: if you are any of those feels and you. 74 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: Have credit twelve credits. 75 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: Right, and Terrey is also an artist just for people 76 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: who are listening in right, right, right, right. 77 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: So you know. 78 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: But I've been a member for ten years and I 79 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: joined in twenty sixteen because that's when I put out 80 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: my second album, and I was like, how do I 81 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: get this album Grammy nominated? 82 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: Like what's the process? I didn't know what it was. 83 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: I didn't think, as an independent artists, a kid from 84 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: Cony Allen, that I could even be Grammy nominated or 85 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: be a part of the association at all. And once 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: I found out it was just as simple as this 87 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: particular album right here is all you need to be 88 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: qualified for. 89 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Every artist who's listening, every songwriter, every producer, you said, 90 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: even engineers. 91 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: Engineers, mixing, mastering, all of the different crafts and you 92 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: can go through. You know, another thing is the information 93 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: is right there on the website. So sometimes people want 94 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: to be ignorant because it's you know, it's easier to 95 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: just be ignorant and be opposed to the process than 96 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: like looking it up and seeing how simple it is 97 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: to get down and then you get down and then 98 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: you vote. And if you think that the Clips had 99 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: the best rap album and you're a rap fan, and 100 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: you're who more qualified than you to vote for that? Right, 101 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: So it's pair base Like the Clips get their ballot, 102 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: like you get your ballot, and we. 103 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: Say for themselves. To fine you guys, you should. 104 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: Then Obama vote for herself, right, Like, Yes, that's that's who. 105 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: That's who should be making the decisions, the people who 106 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: make the art, right you know what I'm saying. 107 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: So, and I think that's important for you to discuss 108 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: because we talk about voting, and we talk about the 109 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: power that comes with that, and that's across the board 110 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: and anything anything. If you are able to register to vote, 111 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: and if you are able to be part of this 112 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: committee where you can vote, then you should. 113 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely it's a voting body. 114 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: It's fifteen thousand voting members and you could be fifteen 115 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: thousand and one, so join us. 116 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's it now. 117 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: And then one thing that really made headlines this particular year. 118 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: Was Eve Man shout out to Eve and Eve was. 119 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: Able to receive her Grammy for you got Me the 120 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: verse she had on there. And this is twenty seven 121 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: years later that she was able to come and get that. 122 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: So what was the process behind getting her that Grammy? 123 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: It was, I want to tell a story only because 124 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I shout out everybody 125 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: who assisted me in that process. But basically the story 126 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: got out. You know, Eve was on the interview, and 127 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: you know, it came to like that she didn't have 128 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: the Grammy for that, and then I was just like 129 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: I saw the interview like everybody else, and I was like, 130 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 3: but she should. 131 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: You know. 132 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: It was for Best Rap Performance. And that's another thing 133 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: people don't understand as the categories she best rap performance 134 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: doesn't mean like she performed it at a show. Is 135 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: you performed on the record? 136 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: Right? 137 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: Your voice on the record. Okay, so we know that 138 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: that's Eve on the record, even though she's not credited. 139 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm in the c I know it's Eve. 140 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: You know it's Eve. We all know, right, we all 141 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: know it's Eve. But the credits don't stay that. So 142 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: what'll we have to do? So shout out to Tunji. 143 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: I hit Tunge up from Depth Jam and I was like, Yo, 144 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: the Roots are signed of Death Jam. I'm like, yo, 145 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do this thing for Eve. I know 146 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: the Roots wasn't with you when they dropped this project, 147 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: but you know, what do I need to do? I 148 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: need to get some credits. He was like, well, let 149 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 3: me put you with the catalog people from Enoscope and MCA. 150 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 3: It was a guy by the name of Greg Prinks. 151 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: So shout out to Greg. Greg got me the information 152 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: I needed within twenty four hours, right, So I get this. 153 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: I call O Wars the department. 154 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, I got this record that I know 155 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: this person performed on. They're like, oh, we need is 156 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: the credits. So I get them the credits. And it 157 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: was just as simple as that. You know, you get 158 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: them the credits. It had to be ratified by the board. 159 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: Shout out to Harvey and everybody else, but it was 160 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: just as simple as me knowing me being in the 161 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: Koltua me being in the Academy, so I know who 162 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: to call. And one of the reasons I wanted to 163 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: tell a story is because a lot of people are saying, Yo, 164 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: Swiss call the Grammys and this and that. You don't 165 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: need a Swiss beat. Shout the Swiss, shout the most, 166 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: shout the whole team. You don't need a Swiss beats, 167 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: you don't need a big name producer, you don't need 168 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: a big body to advocate for you. All you need 169 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: to be is connected to the Academy. And that means 170 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: you could call me, or you could call whomever else, 171 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: j Ivy, you could call Chelsea, you can call anybody 172 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: that's in any about our twelve chapters and they'll know 173 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: who to get in contact with. So it's not like 174 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: Swiss called and Eve's husband called and it was all 175 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: of this big to do. It was somebody from the 176 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: culture who cared, who knew the process and got it done. 177 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: And that's it. 178 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: I wasn't did twenty seven years ago. It's nothing I 179 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: could do about it. But we here today now. 180 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: How many people have hit you up since then? 181 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: Like I mean a lot of people, So a lot 182 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: of things, a lot of what I've been hearing now 183 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: is well, get one for Jill Scott, and let me 184 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: break that part down. Jill, we know wrote the words. 185 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: The way that the awards work is that if it's 186 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: in the song category, that's a song. Because performance you understand, 187 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: he's smart, you went to school. Because Jill didn't perform 188 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: on the record, she's not eligible for that Grammy. If 189 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: it was, if it won Best Rap Song, that's a 190 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: songwriter's award, and that goes to everybody who wrote on 191 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: the record. Ninety percent of the time, if you wrap 192 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: the record, you wrote the raps, so the artist is 193 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: still awarded. But in other genres, you know, if Whitney 194 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: wins for I Will Always Love You, Dolly Powton gets 195 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: that it's a song because she wrote that song. So 196 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: that's how it works. So another thing is just like 197 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: understanding how the process works. Every category awards something different. 198 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: Record is different than songs, songs different than performance. You know, 199 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: group is different than solo. So once you know just 200 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: the nuance of it is pretty simple to figure out, 201 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: you know. 202 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: To ray do you guys? 203 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of times where the 204 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Grammys do actually go out and try to recruit people 205 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: who are eligible to vote to do that, because, like 206 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: you said, sometimes people don't go and just google what 207 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: are the qualifications to be able to do that? 208 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: Sometimes people don't realize. But I would be a. 209 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: Person that's qualified to do that. So how do you 210 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: guys recruit people or let them know? Like, come on, 211 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: you should and does it cost money? Also to be 212 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: able to be part of it? 213 00:08:59,080 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Does cost money? 214 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: Now when I joined ten years ago, so you should 215 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: have got it when I got it when I joined. 216 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: Then I don't those credits. 217 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: I think it's one hundred and fifty dollars a year now, 218 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: no kidding, right, Like you. 219 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: Should spend one hundred and fifty in one studio session, right, 220 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: But even in that, if they are hardships, if there's 221 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: somebody who is eligible but doesn't have the backing financially, 222 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: there's programs for that as well. 223 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: We got music kids. 224 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: Music kids gave away so many tens of millions of 225 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: dollars during COVID, even outside of COVID during just people 226 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: that have that come across hardships and adversity like what 227 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: you're dealing with right now, right, if that was happening 228 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: to me in my studio. 229 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: I would literally call music. 230 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: Kids it's food, and they would yes, and they would 231 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: literally send a check. It's just that simple. All you 232 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: have to do is prove that you work. You don't 233 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: even have to be a member of the Academy, just 234 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: to prove that you work in the music business. And 235 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 3: they help with stuff like that. 236 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: See, there's certain things that people have no idea about 237 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: that are available and that's accessible for accessible for them 238 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: for sure. 239 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: So it's important to be a part of it. But 240 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: just to answer your question prior to that, it's people 241 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: like us. It's people like me that get out there 242 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: and have conversations. Every year, you should recommend two people 243 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: that you think should join the academy. So every year 244 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: we all get two recommendations. My two recommendations are always 245 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: taken immediately. 246 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: You got a line up. 247 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm booked up to like twenty fifty too. 248 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: I hear some people only get one. 249 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: No, we all get two. We all get two recommendations. 250 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 3: And from there, you know, you just bring in people 251 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: that you think should be a part of the conversation, 252 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: that you think would have something to add to the academy. 253 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: And you have professional members and you have voting members. 254 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 3: You can come on as a professional member because who 255 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: know music and culture better than you you? 256 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: But yes, okay, so I guess I'll wait until my 257 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: term for invite and you want. 258 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: To get red. I got you. I know some people 259 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: that know you know some people hook you up. Now. 260 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: Another thing about you to Ray is that you and 261 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: L Cool J are super tight. 262 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: All right. I've done seeing y'all together at restaurants. 263 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: I've seen you guys just say less, that's your guy 264 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: right there, Rock the Bells, you know, that's your other 265 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: one of your other many gigs that you have going on. 266 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: We live in New York and costly out here. 267 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: We have keep a couple of jobs. 268 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: But also I want to talk about this Rock the 269 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Bells cruise that's going on. 270 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: So we are coming up on our fourth cruise. Fourth cruise, right, 271 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: It's been dope, man, it's been dope. I've been there 272 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: since the beginning, hosting the cruise. 273 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: We go out. We leave from Miami. 274 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: You know, for the last few years we've gone out 275 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: to the Bahamas. This next cruise, we're going out to Jamaica. 276 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:35,239 Speaker 3: It's just five days of fun and performances and comedy 277 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: and food. 278 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: And laughs, and it's just dope. 279 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's just people music, like right, Yo, it's 280 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: always I would sit at breakfast and like last last year, 281 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: Jada Kiss is like the mayor of the cruise now 282 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: has been on as a soloist and with the Locks, 283 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: but we just like sit at breakfast right and were 284 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: talking and we having a good time and it's just 285 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: a really really amazing time for the artists. But it's 286 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: the cruise growers as well. Man, they always have a blast. 287 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: So it's super dope and shout the big bro. Man, 288 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: he's doing so many amazing things. Oh, he's doing so 289 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: many amazing things for the culture. To taking ownership of 290 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: the things that we say are missing. It's like, well, 291 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: who better to do it than us? So I love 292 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: to be a part of it, you know. 293 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: I shout out to you, Tray. 294 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: You really managed to do so many different things but 295 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: still stay authentic to the space that you're in, which 296 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: I think is important because we do see fifty cents there. 297 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: Every New York rapper has a podcast you know right now, 298 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: but you've been I think you've made the transition also 299 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: to radio, still doing music at the same time. But 300 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: this is something that you've worked on for way before 301 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: all this was happening right right. 302 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was one of the early ones to get 303 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: into like the media space just because on this show. 304 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: How did that even happen? 305 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: It kind of happened by chance, you know. Shout to 306 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: my brother DJ Eclips. DJ Clips basically asked me to 307 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 3: come co host your show because he needed the co host. 308 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: And this was back in like eight oh nine. I 309 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: was like what no. 310 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: I was like, fresh off tour and albums out, and 311 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 3: it was like, that doesn't make any sense. But because 312 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: it was e and because he had done so much 313 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: for my career, from putting me in Fat Beats to 314 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 3: put me on Serious and all the things he had 315 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: did for independent artists, those things mean so much. 316 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't just tell him no, And so I went 317 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: and I tried it. I tried it for a couple 318 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: of weeks. And I've had my show thirteen years, so 319 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: it's been crazy. 320 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: Well, happy thirteenth. 321 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: And I do want to say when people try to 322 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: get me to come out to host things, the way 323 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: that they always tell it is well to is going 324 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: to be hosting, Let them. 325 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: Do that with you. 326 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, Tore's doing it. 327 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: It was like, and just doing that. I'm like, all right, 328 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: just doing it. 329 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: But that's that's how much credibility I feel like you have, 330 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: just for everything that's been going on and the way 331 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: that you carry yourself and you know, just I feel 332 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: like the growth that you've had has been amazing just 333 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: to see. 334 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been here for a very long time. We 335 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: started on Twitter together. Yeah, you put me on Twitter. 336 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: He was like, you got a Twitter. I was like, 337 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: what is that? 338 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: You just took my phone? You really took my phone. 339 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: It was like, Yo, this is Twitter. You gotta use it. 340 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 4: It's tired of being on there a loan. 341 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: Congratulations to you. Three years. 342 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, three years per way, I took three years. 343 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: To get me here. Shout out to the Grammy. 344 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 4: I would love to have you on here more. 345 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how your other day job is going 346 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: to feel it, so, you know, cool, but I think 347 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: in the capacity of the Grammys and everything else you 348 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: have going on, you know, it is great to see 349 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: somebody like you just speaking and letting us understand. And 350 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: maybe next year I'll get an invite to the Black 351 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: Music Collective Gala. 352 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: You want to pull up you be mon plus okay, 353 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: say less. 354 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: All right, y'all heard it here first, but thank you 355 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: so much, Toray, and for people to follow you. 356 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: It's just t O R A E. Because you got 357 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: on there early, got. 358 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: On there early at Torrey. 359 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: Shout out to Harvey Mason Junior, at the whole academy, 360 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: I will I will chair the board. Doctor chosea Green 361 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: and my coach Jiv. Shout out to all of them, 362 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: and yeah, shout to you and I appreciate you all right. 363 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: Thanks Tore